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Juri Ratas: Estonia will not support the idea of ​​creating an “EU army”

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Estonia opposes the creation of a united army of Europe, since the military cooperation of European countries should not duplicate the actions of the North Atlantic Alliance. This was stated by the Prime Minister of Estonia Jüri Ratas, the press service of the government.


Juri Ratas: Estonia will not support the idea of ​​creating an “EU army”


Speaking at a press conference in Tallinn, Jüri Ratas commented on the idea of ​​creating a pan-European army, stating that he does not support this idea, since by its actions such an army "will simply duplicate the actions of NATO." It is necessary to create other projects in which the European Union will cooperate with the alliance, and not duplicate it, he added. Europe is under the protection of the alliance.

Austria also refused to participate in the creation of a pan-European army, explaining its refusal to the neutral status of the country. At the same time, the Secretary General of the North Atlantic Alliance, Jens Stoltenberg, said that NATO does not see the need for the European Union to create duplicate military structures.

The idea of ​​creating an "EU army," independent of the United States, was proposed by the French president, Emmanuel Macron, explaining that protection from the Russian, Chinese and American threats, including in the field of cyber security. The idea of ​​Macron was supported by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, but Washington not only opposed, but also criticized the proposal.


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  1. The black
    The black 15 November 2018 16: 50
    +15
    Estonia opposes the creation of a united European army
    Who would doubt that. I am not a "wang", but even then I will guess at once who else will probably oppose. Just look at the list of US pocket dogs.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 15 November 2018 16: 51
      +7
      In, I wrote about this only yesterday .. Poland and the entire Baltic region will not yet support it ..
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 15 November 2018 16: 55
        +5
        Quote: Svarog
        Poland and the whole Baltic States will not yet support ..

        You’ll have to invest in a new army, but they’re used to just getting.
        1. Machito
          Machito 16 November 2018 15: 17
          +1
          More and more, France and Germany began to raise their voices.
          Not everything is so smooth in the Euro-Atlantic kingdom.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 16 November 2018 15: 38
            +1
            Quote: Bearded
            France and Germany began to raise their voices more often.

            Germany, that’s understandable. It is the economic center of the EU, and Frau is its chancellor. And no matter what the others think, no matter how their cheeks are puffed up, Germany dictates the rules. Here Napoleonchik where climbs, it is not clear. France, although it did without a crisis, but its economy barely provides stability, and is in uncertain balance. Or do the laurels of the predecessor haunt Macaron?
      2. Vinnibuh
        Vinnibuh 15 November 2018 17: 03
        +5
        Most importantly, the whole of Estonia is against. All invisible to Macaron and Grandma's army. ))))))))
      3. ioan-e
        ioan-e 16 November 2018 08: 20
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        In, I wrote about this only yesterday .. Poland and the entire Baltic region will not yet support it ..

        And someone named Waltsman!
      4. Machito
        Machito 16 November 2018 15: 15
        0
        Who will ask Estonia?
        As the Great Uncles decide, so will Estonia.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 16 November 2018 15: 42
          +1
          Quote: Bearded
          As the Great Uncles decide, so will Estonia.

          So, these uncles will have to pay for Estonia. And they, in particular, Donald Duck lol, made it clear that the tribaltics had already tired them.
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 15 November 2018 17: 18
      +6
      Quote: Black
      Estonia opposes the creation of a united European army
      Who would doubt that. I am not a "wang", but even then I will guess at once who else will probably oppose. Just look at the list of US pocket dogs.

      I think if in Washington they propose to arrange the genocide of Estonians, then dumping all this on the Russians, then this citizen will warmly support this
      1. The black
        The black 15 November 2018 17: 27
        +3
        Quote: Vol4ara
        I think if in Washington they propose to arrange the genocide of Estonians, then dumping all this on the Russians, then this citizen will warmly support this

        also will take part
    3. Finches
      Finches 15 November 2018 17: 25
      +2
      It's not just about pocket mongrels - it's grandmas! That is, a beggar of Estonia will have to pay 2% of GDP to NATO, what Trump requires, and to the EU army, for example 2% - Germany and France will pull this and will throw 2% of the Baltic rogues into Trump’s pocket, that is, NATO! In short, the guys from normal countries finally understood - the Swedes were not stupid when they sold this burden to Peter I - she only required money, but there was only one zilch on the exhaust! So it is now - nobody needs the Baltic States, but you won’t say so in the open! Here old Europe comes up with all sorts of perversions to get rid of these rogues! laughing
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 15 November 2018 19: 47
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        It's not just about pocket mongrels - it's grandmas! That is, a beggar of Estonia will have to pay 2% of GDP to NATO, what Trump requires, and to the EU army, for example 2% - Germany and France will pull this and will throw 2% of the Baltic rogues into Trump’s pocket, that is, NATO!

        They are still sitting on Eurodotations. Here, most likely, the owner pinched the appendage with doors to shout loudly about NATO as the only hope and support, and so they are trying.
    4. Solomon
      Solomon 15 November 2018 17: 33
      +1
      Quote: Black
      I guess from one time who else is likely to oppose. Just look at the list of US pocket mongrel.

      That's right, Russophobia and "divide and conquer" in Europe is generously paid for by the State Department, and many live by this ..
      And Europe is terribly afraid of "evil Russians", we are directly targeted from overseas with anyone and in any way.
      And Europe is shrouded in US bases, NATO .. ​​And who will be under the first blow, Europe understands perfectly!
      Especially after Putin's phrase "they won't even have time to repent." He said beautifully with humor and at the same time a concrete threat fatal to the whole world. Think gentlemen, think that patience in Russia is already running out. soldier negative
    5. LeonidL
      LeonidL 16 November 2018 06: 49
      0
      The command "to the leg" and a devoted look from the bottom up into the eyes of the owner ...
  2. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 15 November 2018 16: 50
    +3
    Yes, it’s clear - the Baltic States, Poland, Romania - are allies of the United States. I hope that France and Germany come up serially and create the Euro-Army, and there other countries will catch up ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 15 November 2018 16: 54
      +1
      that France and Germany will come up serially and create the Euroarmy, and there other countries will catch up ...

      How so?
      In Europe, the master of everything is Washington ... in this harem everyone should fulfill the wishes of the master ... and he has very specific tastes for perversions to his wives.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 15 November 2018 17: 00
        0
        In Europe, the owner of all Washington ..


        Lech .... I do not think so. This is a simplification of the picture. If you think that you can cope and get along with 29 countries, with different interests, culture and economy, then this is a misconception. Look at the experience of the Russian Federation to get along with the CIS countries although you have a common language and past. And in the EU it’s getting harder ...
    2. novobranets
      novobranets 15 November 2018 16: 57
      0
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      Serially fit and create the Euroarmia and there other countries will catch up ...

      There will be no Euroarmy. There is nothing to build it on. No basics.
  3. IGU
    IGU 15 November 2018 16: 52
    +1
    It would be surprising if Estonia came out for the ability to pay for defense costs, and to be subordinate to the "European locomotive".
    Wrong installation.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 15 November 2018 17: 04
      +5
      Quote: IGU
      Wrong installation.

      they are just satisfied with what is. Estonian Special Forces at NATO Exercise Spring Storm 2017
  4. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 16: 54
    0
    The State Department did not allow?
    1. helmi8
      helmi8 15 November 2018 17: 03
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      The State Department did not allow?

      This is one reason. And the second - and who will serve among the Estonians in this army? Are there people? laughing
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 17: 05
        0
        Well, yes ... Everyone has long been to Europe.
  5. BAI
    BAI 15 November 2018 16: 54
    +1
    The NATO army has a sponsor - the United States, from there you can still get the money, and Europe will have to pay for the EU army in full.
  6. taiga2018
    taiga2018 15 November 2018 16: 59
    +1
    what's the quick reaction, is he definitely an estonian?
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 15 November 2018 16: 59
    0
    Well, they don’t have another elevator with the army!
  8. New Year day
    New Year day 15 November 2018 17: 00
    +1
    Of course they won’t support it, you need to give the grandmother, but for this part, they press
  9. NF68
    NF68 15 November 2018 17: 01
    +3
    Nothing depends on Estonia’s opinion on this issue since there are few people in the EU who are interested in the opinion of such a hungry country as Estonia.
    1. Kawado
      Kawado 15 November 2018 17: 41
      +5
      a lot of small dogs in a battle a shepherd will not replace, but they will easily get a neighbor by barking, and it is much more effective than one big dog.
      Right there it ... "We have our own voice!"
      And in neighboring Latvia ...
      ...
      And Romania ...

      Total of 26 NATO members, may be against 1 large member - the United States and 23 small ... and only two FOR.
      So what, what are the largest economies of the EU?
      So what if each of them has a good hundred times more economy than countries like Estonia?
      So what if Estonia exists only thanks to subsidies from these countries?
      Most importantly, she has a voice!
      And for the "candy wrapper with the image of the American president" they will give their vote ...
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 15 November 2018 18: 52
      +3
      Yes, what are you, right? The great, powerful, democratic Estonia is opposed to a single European army. I think the whole of old Europe is already in a panic, and maybe on the verge of hysteria! am
  10. 1536
    1536 15 November 2018 17: 01
    0
    A betrayer once, betray twice!
  11. sir_obs
    sir_obs 15 November 2018 17: 30
    0
    And someone declared the need for their support?
  12. Kawado
    Kawado 15 November 2018 17: 31
    +2
    And how will the pan-European army "duplicate NATO" if it joins NATO on the example of any country now? For me, this is how they want to structure the scattered European part of the Alliance, which is undoubtedly a logical step.
    On the whole, the question, as I understood it, is the same in the distribution of funds, the lion's share of which now goes to the USA.
    Those. All NATO countries are discounted at 4% of GDP to the NATO budget, which in itself is not small. And since the United States is the main player in NATO, all the money goes to them, in addition, they dictate what equipment and military products NATO should buy (NATO standards), and in order to shove a couple of Rafale, Eurofighter or European-made Leopard tanks into NATO to ask permission from the United States, and the purchase of this equipment is not for euros, but for dollars. Those. in order for France to buy the Rafal fighter on their own, they first need to buy US dollars and then buy Rafal for these dollars instead of just buying it for their own euros.
    And Macron and Merkel think correctly they want their European structure in NATO, similar to the USA and on an equal footing with it, because in addition to money, influence, equality, they will receive even less protection from external opponents, because it’s sacred to only rely on the USA - it’s dumb, but what if they simply blame them, as the British from Dunkirk did at one time?
  13. urman
    urman 15 November 2018 17: 38
    0
    It's one thing to bark in a flock! "
    And the other in themselves, France and Germany can still.
    Well, these are LILIPUTES, where they just yap.
    So it seems to me that? In the pack, they still yapping, only the pack is tired of them
    The mutts have never been held in high esteem,
  14. gurzuf
    gurzuf 15 November 2018 17: 59
    0
    And what else could the kurat say? The hosts do not sit in Europe tea, you need to work out the trust.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 15 November 2018 18: 57
      0
      Kurat, if I'm not mistaken - * hell * translated from theirs? If they are hell, then very good. and very slow.
      1. gurzuf
        gurzuf 16 November 2018 15: 57
        0
        But this is the most terrible curse that he heard while serving in Tappa. (not counting our mats which they perfectly pronounced without ... translation !!!)
  15. akudr48
    akudr48 15 November 2018 18: 11
    0
    Esssttooooonskie zoldaten can and alone bark at the bear. No Euroarmy.
    If the owner will say.
  16. svp67
    svp67 15 November 2018 18: 20
    +2
    Juri Ratas: Estonia will not support the idea of ​​creating an “EU army”
    Well then, it seems to me that Macron and Merkel will answer them: "Well then, we will delete you ..."
  17. K-50
    K-50 15 November 2018 18: 24
    +2
    Estonia opposes the creation of a unified European army, as the military cooperation of European countries should not duplicate the actions of the North Atlantic Alliance.

    The big overseas owner said "disapproved", so the mongrels sang along at once. yes lol
  18. Lexeus
    Lexeus 15 November 2018 19: 39
    0
    "Estonian parachutists were hanging over Tallinn for the third day" - that says it all, they are "brakes"))))
  19. Kapkan
    Kapkan 15 November 2018 21: 25
    0
    The Baltic states may be expelled from the EU and NATO.
  20. Cycle boss
    Cycle boss 15 November 2018 22: 02
    0
    No matter how you twist the Baltic coast first ... so worry don't worry .. but her fate is like that.
  21. Naughty
    Naughty 16 November 2018 00: 53
    0
    Well, without the Estonian brakes, the Euro Army will definitely not be laughing
  22. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 16 November 2018 01: 19
    0
    A mongrel cannot live without a master.
  23. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 16 November 2018 04: 18
    0
    The army must be maintained, but what shisha !!! ??? A strong state needs its own army, and not the rabble of NATO under the control of the regional committee. The process of identifying geyropeyskih freeloaders.
  24. ochakow703
    ochakow703 16 November 2018 07: 50
    0
    See the news! How can you ?! Bees against honey! Never! Even if we freeze our ears, we won't put on a hat without the "good" of the amers. Anyway, this will simply undermine the defenses of Estonia!
  25. demo
    demo 16 November 2018 15: 10
    +2
    Speaking at a press conference in Tallinn, Juri Ratas commented on the idea of ​​creating a pan-European army.
    And then everyone stood up and began to applaud the speech of the greatest politician of our time!
    Oh how.
    Estonia is against it!
    The Chukhons said their firm - no, to disorder and vacillations.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 16 November 2018 15: 44
      0
      And Baba Yaga is against. laughing
  26. Yellow bubble
    Yellow bubble 19 November 2018 22: 17
    0
    First against, then all in favor, and two armies against Russia. Trump card.