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Putin responded to the West to criticize the Donbass elections.

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Russian President Vladimir Putin, commenting on criticism from Western countries of past elections in the self-proclaimed republics of Donbass, said that before condemning the elections, it was necessary first of all to condemn the killings in these republics.


Putin responded to the West to criticize the Donbass elections.


Speaking at a press conference following a visit to Singapore, Putin, in particular, said that lately Russia has often heard from Western countries condemnation of the elections held in Donbass, but has never heard from the same countries condemnation of the killings that occur in the unrecognized republics First, condemn the politically motivated killings in the Donbass, he added, then just condemn the election.

In addition, the Russian president stressed that the policy of the current Kiev authorities does not allow to count on a peaceful settlement of the conflict in the Donbass, since Ukraine still does not show a desire to fulfill the Minsk agreements.

Nothing happens. Everyone is waiting for some execution of the Minsk agreements from Russia, and the fact that the Kiev authorities are not doing anything, nobody prefers to notice
- Putin declared

Earlier, elections in the Donbass were condemned by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron, did not recognize the elections and condemned them by the US State Department. Kiev announced in advance that it did not recognize the election results and convened an extraordinary meeting of the contact group on Donbass in connection with the "fake elections." In Moscow, they said that the elections held did not in any way violate the Minsk agreements.
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  1. the most important
    the most important 15 November 2018 13: 23
    +25
    How long can all this tyagomotin last? Donbass has already been waiting when they let him go home! And it’s time to return all the Russian lands to Russia !! Only the ruler who can reunite Russia will remain in the grateful memory of the people!
    1. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 15 November 2018 13: 26
      -6
      Better tyagomotin than a good war. 101 karate practitioners (judoka)
      1. the most important
        the most important 15 November 2018 13: 31
        +34
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Better tyagomotin than a good war.

        Select a province from any country of Tumba-Yumba and the war will begin! And then half the country was torn off and you are scared ... You have to lead yourself so that the enemies are afraid to appear on the horizon, and not sit in the hole, no matter what happens ... so they will take everything away! Here the Japanese have already begun negotiations on the transfer of the Kuril Islands. Rejoice - they will be taken away by the new year in exchange for a piece of toilet paper .... you can wait this way. that the whole country is torn apart! Do you remember that Dimon gave Norway a huge piece of the sea? I remember and I will never forgive him for that !!!
        1. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 15 November 2018 13: 35
          +3
          Manage the country is not a wave of a saber. And the Japs will get the ears of a dead donkey. Everything freezes there in winter. One fish at $ 1,5 billion a year will be lost, not talking about the release of warships in the winter.
          1. Henderson
            Henderson 15 November 2018 13: 47
            -7
            5 stages of making the inevitable
            Stage 1 - Denial (a person refuses to accept what happened to him);
            Stage 2 - Anger (at this stage aggression manifests itself to the entire surrounding world);
            Stage 3 - Bargaining (there are thoughts about agreeing on a better fate);
            Stage 4 - Depression (at this stage, a person may be depressed around the clock);
            ====> you are here
            Stage 5 - Acceptance (acceptance of the inevitable fate).
            1. Tank jacket
              Tank jacket 15 November 2018 13: 49
              +3
              Yes Fantomas I, Fantomas ... movie "Afonya"
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 15 November 2018 22: 08
                0
                Quote: Tank jacket
                Yes Fantomas I, Fantomas ... movie "Afonya"

                Yes, we saw you already ..... Aniskin correctly said!
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 15 November 2018 14: 07
          -5
          Quote: the most important
          And then half the country was torn off and you're scared ...

          Who are you? belay when did you get torn off? belay
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 15 November 2018 15: 36
          +4
          Quote: the most important
          Do you remember that Dimon gave Norway a huge piece of the sea? I remember and I will never forgive him for that !!!

          Are you even in the subject of what "unforgive" gathered? We had a dispute with Norway over this section of the sea since the 30s of the last century and the issue of the sea border was not resolved until the very day you are broadcasting about. If this issue had not been settled with Norway, then Russia could not have submitted an international application for the inclusion of the Arctic shelf in Russia, that is, we would have lost much more, and the Arctic pie would have been divided by a much larger number of claimant states. And so everything is top, everyone got a piece of their water area from the disputed area and managed to secure the shelf for Russia.
          1. the most important
            the most important 15 November 2018 23: 25
            0
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Are you even in the subject of what "unforgive" gathered? We had a dispute with Norway over this section of the sea since the 30s of the last century and the issue of the sea border was not resolved until the very day you are broadcasting about. If this issue had not been settled with Norway, then Russia could not have submitted an international application for the inclusion of the Arctic shelf in Russia, that is, we would have lost much more, and the Arctic pie would have been divided by a much larger number of claimant states. And so everything is top, everyone got a piece of their water area from the disputed area and managed to secure the shelf for Russia.

            In your opinion, many countries would have run into the Arctic pie, all sorts of Honduras and Mozambique, and would start to divide it? Do you have any idea what this is about? The Soviet Union clearly marked the boundaries of the northern possessions and not a single country dared to go there. And the fact that Russia signed an agreement on just such a division of the Arctic is, as always, a run ahead of a steam locomotive and a lack of strategic vision. This is generally nonsense when a "world community" defines the borders of Russia !!! And all from the fact that Russia is in 13th place in terms of GDP. And those who are in power have children living abroad. And it would be possible to argue for another hundred years, and no one would have poked their heads. And the gas is running out in Norway and every year it would be more accommodating. And so a deposit fell from heaven to her !!! For nothing ...
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 16 November 2018 00: 36
              0
              Quote: the most important
              In your opinion, many countries would rush to the Arctic pie, all sorts of Honduras and Mozambique there, and start to share it? Do you have any idea what this is about?

              I can imagine, I can imagine, but I’ll tell you one thing, only YOU don’t be offended. "Most important" does not mean "knowledgeable". As an educational program, here is a link to the topic of the Barents Sea and its redistribution ... you can fill the gap. No need to thank recourse
              https://damadiluma.livejournal.com/302829.html
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 15 November 2018 13: 41
        +3
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Better tyagomotin than a good war. 101 karate practitioners (judoka)

        Yes, there wouldn’t be any war .. everything would be like with the Crimea, no one will fight for Ukraine .. That would introduce serious sanctions, and that’s the reason. Serious sanctions are the arrest of all property of all our oligarchs and officials .. For this reason, Putin’s ardor has cooled down ..
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 13: 44
          +5
          Quote: Svarog
          the arrest of all property of all our oligarchs and officials .. For this reason, Putin’s ardor has cooled down ..

          This dough measures everything.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 15 November 2018 14: 04
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Svarog
            the arrest of all property of all our oligarchs and officials .. For this reason, Putin’s ardor has cooled down ..

            This dough measures everything.

            This one just doesn’t measure the dough, but your mentors from edra measure the dough .. And I measure by the fact that we must protect the Russian people who ask us for protection from the Nazis ..
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        2. Tank jacket
          Tank jacket 15 November 2018 13: 45
          0
          Sanctions are in fifth place after monetary and credit policies. Elvira Christine Lagarde does not allow the change.
        3. Consultant
          Consultant 15 November 2018 13: 57
          +6
          Quote: Svarog
          Yes, there would be no war ..

          Are you a prophet? Or on a salary?

          Quote: Svarog
          everything would be like with Crimea

          Crimea - consider an island. And there, initially, the Russian Navy. Is everything exactly the same in Ukraine? Do not make me laugh...

          Quote: Svarog
          no one will fight for Ukraine ..

          Yes of course. Ukraine doesn't have an army, and a "Svidomo ukraintsa" hasn't been brought up there for a quarter of a century ...

          Quote: Svarog
          Serious sanctions are the arrest of all property of all our oligarchs and officials .. For this reason, Putin’s ardor has cooled down ..

          Ah, where the dog rummaged ... well, then you are definitely not a prophet laughing
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 15 November 2018 14: 04
            -4
            Quote: Consultant
            Ah, where the dog rummaged ... well, then you are definitely not a prophet

            Golovan recognize you .. rose ..
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 15 November 2018 14: 09
              +5
              Quote: Svarog
              Golovan recognize you .. rose ..

              Please mom wink

              And, yes - I am not Christ to resurrect. And not Golovan, Golovan - these are dogs, and he - did not die laughing

              In essence of the questions asked, what thread will you answer, or how?
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              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 14: 35
                +9
                Quote: Consultant
                Yes, trolling in its purest form, but the character is still "alive" and feels good.

                The US State Department allocated 70 billion. $ To overthrow V.V. Putin. They are practiced by mercenaries on social networks that play in all sorts of professions and various segments of the population: offended **, calling themselves paramedics, grandparents, ......

                The subject of housing and communal services, Pensions, Benefits, Medicine, Education, Police, financing of our regions and other countries, interethnic issues, price increases, the judicial system, the environment, etc.
                https://news.temaretik.com/1371138714810452967/trolli-gosdepa-ssha/

                Any questions? -No questions!
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 15 November 2018 14: 40
                  +6
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Any questions? -No questions!

                  Um ... just read carefully:

                  Quote: Consultant
                  at the same time the character is still "alive" and feels good

                  Alexander, you scare me belay
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 14: 45
                    +3
                    Quote: Consultant

                    Alexander, you scare me

                    They work in groups, by 5-6 people, a bunch of nicknames. They do not violate the rules; they are composing themselves as compassionate patriots, offended by the authorities, worried about the people. He does not admit that the State Department is working out money.
                    But at the same time they are visible, the task is to separate people, push them together with their foreheads. They perform actively in all topics, religious, social, economic. Their task is to destroy. They write the same thing, often repeated.
                    Someone who understands this is smarter, and some who are dumber are hawking.
                    1. tatra
                      tatra 15 November 2018 17: 10
                      -5
                      Well, Putin doesn’t skimp on you, the Kremlin bots, whose main task is not even to praise Putin, but lie, slander, bullying, an attempt to discredit all dissenters.
                2. Svarog
                  Svarog 15 November 2018 14: 43
                  -3
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: Consultant
                  Yes, trolling in its purest form, but the character is still "alive" and feels good.

                  The US State Department allocated 70 billion. $ To overthrow V.V. Putin. They are practiced by mercenaries on social networks that play in all sorts of professions and various segments of the population: offended **, calling themselves paramedics, grandparents, ......

                  The subject of housing and communal services, Pensions, Benefits, Medicine, Education, Police, financing of our regions and other countries, interethnic issues, price increases, the judicial system, the environment, etc.
                  https://news.temaretik.com/1371138714810452967/trolli-gosdepa-ssha/ Думаю от сюда прокремлевских троллей оплачивают так же..

                  Any questions? -No questions!

                  Romanov, voiced how much money does our government allot to maintain its image? And if there were no problems with housing and communal services, pensions, among health workers, and patients, then there would probably be no reason to write ..
                  http://smolnarod.ru/politroom/vsem-sestram-po-sergam/
                  https://www.gosrf.ru/news/12559/
                  https://www.gosrf.ru/news/12559/
                  https://republic.ru/russia/skolko_v_rossii_tratyat_byudzhetnykh_deneg_na_imidzh_gubernatora-1032166.xhtml
                  I think the pro-Kremlin trolls from the same budget are paid
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 14: 49
                    -1
                    Quote: Svarog
                    And if there were no problems with housing and communal services, pensions, among health workers and patients, then there would probably be no reason to write.

                    You see, it started. A man honestly fulfills his 30 pieces of silver.
                  2. KOCMOC
                    KOCMOC 15 November 2018 18: 01
                    +4
                    Alexander Romanov wrote his comment at 14.35.
                    You answered 14.43.
                    A total of 8 minutes to write 10 lines or about 500 values, along with spaces, in two languages! This is about one letter per second, given that you saw the comment right away and wrote without hesitation, while thinking.
                    What are the conclusions: if a person is resting, reading, i.e. if he’s not at work, then there’s nothing for him at such speed. Writing so quickly can clearly not be a collective farmer, not a person of physical labor, but a person unburdened by care, a person whose work is a computer office, especially considering the time spent on the site and productivity according to comments. This printing speed is like that of a professional stenographer. And if you take into account that in the comment there are 5 very complex lines, the addresses of the links in English, which are very difficult to remember and write from memory, and even with so many punctuation. Or you can assume that you copied them, but even copy, you need time to remember the source and find it. So you had everything at hand, it was obvious you were preparing in advance, by the way, it has long been noticed that some comments and turns of speech are the same, it’s nothing like templates or blanks, most likely you are really not a random person, are you at work?
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    You see, it started. A man honestly fulfills his 30 pieces of silver

                    Not a shadow of doubt, and here there are not a few.
                3. dr.star75
                  dr.star75 15 November 2018 14: 47
                  +9
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  The subject of housing and communal services, Pensions, Benefits, Medicine, Education, Police, financing of our regions and other countries, interethnic issues, price increases, the judicial system, the environment, etc.

                  And what about pensions, vat, a "tax maneuver" for oil workers, in which it is profitable for them to drive oil abroad, and not to process it into gasoline and sell it in their own country, did the State Department also do?
                  They hit problem areas, but who created the problems?
                  1. Consultant
                    Consultant 15 November 2018 14: 57
                    +5
                    Quote: dr.star75
                    They hit problem areas, but who created the problems?

                    If you wish, you can find problems with anyone. Well, except for the dead man, I guess.

                    In any state is full of problems. But for some reason, not in any state there are armies of trolls, intensifying these problems exaggerating.

                    Why, interesting? recourse
                    1. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 15: 12
                      +2
                      Quote: Consultant
                      Why, interesting?

                      To allocate money and in any state those who will be ready to sell their country will be offended.
                      It was already, pro-Ukrainian trolls were offered good salaries from Russia. They suggested writing in favor of Russia. Almost all agreed wassat
                    2. dr.star75
                      dr.star75 15 November 2018 15: 37
                      +1
                      Quote: Consultant
                      In any state is full of problems. But for some reason, not in any state there are armies of trolls, intensifying these problems exaggerating.

                      Of course, any state has problems. But they are all different, in the sense of significance for the population.
                      1. Consultant
                        Consultant 15 November 2018 16: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: dr.star75
                        they are all different, in the sense of significance for the population

                        Tell you about medicine in the USA? Where are the two diagnoses - "this is garbage, and therefore we do not treat it", and "this is a tryndet, and therefore we do not treat it"?

                        All the difference in the number of paid hackers. IMHO.
                      2. dr.star75
                        dr.star75 15 November 2018 16: 04
                        -3
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Tell you about medicine in the USA? Where are the two diagnoses - "this is garbage, and therefore we do not treat it", and "this is a tryndet, and therefore we do not treat it"?

                        Yes, tell me.
                      3. Consultant
                        Consultant 15 November 2018 16: 06
                        +1
                        Quote: dr.star75
                        Yes tell

                        Now is the time. I drew the outline above.

                        Work, you know ... I come here to have fun, basically. Well, smart people to read, they are here.
                      4. Random
                        Random 15 November 2018 18: 20
                        -3
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Work, you know ... I come here to have fun, basically. Well, smart people to read, they are here.

                        "Entertaining" you are our wassat
                        This is the one to whom ... quote ..... "
                        Accidental .... "The same from the" company "- lead a healthy life by eating only macaroons, for 3,5 thousand rubles
                        "Also" - together. It hurts my eyes, sorry.
                        No, I'm from another company.

                        Now you ... for "spreading" your ... "horizons" and more topics fellowthat plus you lol
                        "Also" or "the same": together or separately?
                        1. The word "too" is written togetherif synonymous with the union “and”. In this case, it is a union.
                        Example:
                        I also want ice cream. (You can replace it with “And I want ice cream.”)

                        2. Written separatelyif "same" can be omitted or replaced with the word "most" ("that"). In this case, we have a combination of the pronoun "that" and the particle "same."
                        Example:
                        I want the same ice cream we ate yesterday. I want the same ice cream we ate yesterday.
                        I entered the room at the same time as the professor.
                        More examples:
                        I also see the wing of the plane.
                        But:
                        I see the same wing of an airplane as you.

                        I also took an awl.
                        But:
                        I took the same awl as he did.

                        The phrase “at the same time” is written separately on the same principle (can be replaced by “at the same time”).
                        For just perception (maybe this is too .. "difficult" wassat ) therefore .. as in the old days ... clearly fellow (it is faster to reach .. especially .... "smart" lol )
                      5. Consultant
                        Consultant 15 November 2018 18: 29
                        -1
                        Quote: Random
                        Accidental .... "The same from the" company "- lead a healthy life by eating only macaroons, for 3,5 thousand rubles

                        I did not understand your impulse, to be honest.

                        In the case cited by you, "too" must be written together. It is according to the rules, so detailed by you from somewhere copied wink
                      6. Random
                        Random 15 November 2018 18: 36
                        -5
                        Quote: Consultant
                        I did not understand your impulse, to be honest.

                        So it is understandable ... why ... "so smart" and then bam ..... "face on the table" wassat lol
                        I do not continue ... if my words and .. "pictures" do not reach you ... then ... this is not for me request , this is at a different address hi
                      7. Consultant
                        Consultant 15 November 2018 18: 38
                        -2
                        Writing union "too" is written together... It is replaced by unions "also"," and "

                        Do you see it too? Do not double? wink

                        Good luck ... take care hi
                      8. Random
                        Random 15 November 2018 20: 52
                        -3
                        Quote: Consultant
                        Do you see it too? Do not double?

                        Here today ... have all the USE "graduates" gathered? belay
                        Can not tell conjunctions - "too", "also" from pronouns "then" and adverbs "so" with particle... "same". belay belay belay
                        Well, by God ... gentlemen ... you can't be to such an extent .... "illiterate" wassat
                        However ... aplomb you ... do not occupy lol
                        Good luck ... hi
                        Only do not tell your children .... they will laugh wink
                  2. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 15: 03
                    +3
                    Quote: dr.star75
                    They hit problem areas, but who created the problems?

                    The problem is not in them, the problem is in those who understand everything, but wave them.
                    As an example, those who rushed to the army of Vlasov said that they were fighting against the Bolsheviks. This is just an attempt to justify betrayal. The Bolsheviks and Stalin were only a political system, and they, going to serve the Germans, betrayed their homeland.
                    They often write here, I can’t fight for Putin and the oligarchs.
                    For them there is no concept of homeland. For them, Motherland is an empty phrase.
                    As for problem areas, Russia is being hit on all fronts and will be beaten. Look at the countries living, under sanctions, poverty and a collapse of the economy. It will be difficult, some spoke about this on the site in 2014, when they were just introduced. But then everyone laughed, we turned your sanctions.
                    1. dr.star75
                      dr.star75 15 November 2018 15: 09
                      0
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      The problem is not in them, the problem is in those who understand everything, but wave them.
                      As an example, those who rushed to the army of Vlasov said that they were fighting against the Bolsheviks. This is just an attempt to justify betrayal.

                      Well here is a difficult question. I think most of them just wanted to survive. There are few chances in the camps. Perhaps they intended to run across to their own. Although there were plenty of ideological ones. 40 years, just 20 ago from tsarism. Many took away property, etc.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 15: 15
                        +5
                        Quote: dr.star75
                        . I think most of them just wanted to survive.

                        Here the same thing, the trolls make money, they want to live well, eat deliciously and sleep sweetly.
                        Quote: dr.star75
                        Many took away property, etc.

                        So I say, they were offended by the authorities, but they betrayed the Motherland !!!
                      2. dr.star75
                        dr.star75 15 November 2018 15: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Here the same thing, the trolls make money, they want to live well, eat deliciously and sleep sweetly.

                        Yes, let it be! Let it earn. IN partly profitable trolls. Well, let's take some news: well, for example, the floating dock sank. It would be 30 comments, oh how bad and 20 yes you need it. And here are the trolls: the flooding has sunk, because the GDP has raised the retirement age! And away we go ... under 300 comments! The site is in positive territory, citation there, ratings, etc.
                4. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 15 November 2018 20: 49
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  The US State Department allocated 70 billion. $ To overthrow V.V. Putin. They are practiced by mercenaries on social networks that play in all sorts of professions and various segments of the population: offended **, calling themselves paramedics, grandparents, ......

                  The subject of housing and communal services, Pensions, Benefits, Medicine, Education, Police, financing of our regions and other countries, interethnic issues, price increases, the judicial system, the environment, etc.

                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Any questions? -No questions!

                  There are always questions. Here’s another .... You don’t find that the Medvedev Government is the main contractor of the State Department for the development of 70 billion dollars allocated for the fight against GDP? In my opinion, no social networks did as much as Medvedev and his cabinet did with the EDRO party in order to drop the presidential rating.
        4. Machito
          Machito 15 November 2018 14: 51
          +3
          After the termination of gas transit, Ukraine faces a default, and then it is necessary for NM LDNR to launch a counterattack on Kiev and Lviv, and take the impoverished destitute Ukraine back to Russia for 2 kopecks.
          It will be like in that joke: finally, the occupants cursed us back. They will meet with bread and salt and lists of Bandera-European fascists for deportation to Chukotka.
          1. Harry.km
            Harry.km 15 November 2018 17: 46
            0
            Quote: Bearded
            and take the impoverished destitute Ukraine back to Russia for 2 copecks.

            And throw in so much money that we’ll retire at 105? And for what purpose?
            Quote: Bearded
            After the termination of gas transit, default awaits Ukraine,

            I would like to know the date of this momentous event. This is in my opinion from a series of jokes about the dollar, which has been actively falling for 25 years.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 15 November 2018 13: 26
      +6
      Well, probably until the time when the Natsiks keep their promise and do not go battalion to Moscow ... Count in a coffin.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 13: 30
        +8
        Quote: 210ox

        Well, probably until then, when the Natsik did not fulfill their promise and did not go battalion to Moscow ..

        They are only able to fight with women and children. They decided to go to the Crimea in 2014, knowing what is ours.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 15 November 2018 14: 11
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Ochkonuli in the Crimea to go in 2014, knowing that there ours.

          Well, when they sent the first "train of friendship", ours weren't there. more precisely "polite people"
          Crimeans themselves stood at the station to defend themselves. Natsik did not arrive as they learned.
          after that they did not twitch
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 15 November 2018 14: 19
            +1
            Quote: LSA57
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Ochkonuli in the Crimea to go in 2014, knowing that there ours.

            Well, when they sent the first "train of friendship", ours weren't there. more precisely "polite people"
            Crimeans themselves stood at the station to defend themselves. Natsik did not arrive as they learned.
            after that they did not twitch

            And in the Donbass they would not have jerked if Russia had just as decisively reacted as with the Crimea ..
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 15 November 2018 14: 23
              +3
              Quote: Svarog
              And in the Donbass they would not have jerked if Russia had reacted as decisively as with the Crimea.

              Everyone is smart in hindsight
            2. Machito
              Machito 15 November 2018 14: 54
              +8
              It was necessary to put Yanyka on armor after the Crimea and take all of Ukraine, and banderlog horses on bunks to attach.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 15 November 2018 14: 57
                +3
                Quote: Bearded
                It was necessary to put Yanyka on armor after the Crimea and take all of Ukraine, and banderlog horses on bunks to attach.

                Yes, and it would be all legal ..
    3. prapor55
      prapor55 15 November 2018 13: 27
      +1
      It should be before the input of stream-2, and even there 3 lard with percentages are hanging.
    4. Sands Careers General
      Sands Careers General 15 November 2018 13: 33
      +6
      As long as the United States and Europe cover the Nazi regime of Ukraine, Donbass will be in such limbo.
      And Donbass is not Crimea, for example.
    5. SSR
      SSR 15 November 2018 14: 15
      +4
      Quote: the most important
      Donbass has already been waiting when they let him go home!

      Are you sure that only Donbass was waiting?
      It seems to me that Mariupol, Odessa and others do not want to be Ukrainians.
      1. Henderson
        Henderson 15 November 2018 15: 25
        -2
        Walk the field like in the Donbass they want even less
    6. Naughty
      Naughty 15 November 2018 15: 41
      0
      What Russia does not suit you in the present borders? Return Russian to Russia from neighboring countries is YES!
      1. New Year day
        New Year day 15 November 2018 16: 16
        0
        Quote: Vzdrincher
        Return Russian to Russia from neighboring countries is YES!

        One question, is there money? After all, it is necessary to provide housing, lifting, work, schools, kindergartens. how to deal with it?
        1. Naughty
          Naughty 16 November 2018 00: 48
          0
          Do you think they should be left where they are? It’s the Russians who at one time went to raise the virgin lands, build factories. These are their descendants.
  2. bogart047
    bogart047 15 November 2018 13: 24
    +1
    when was it different?
  3. Masya masya
    Masya masya 15 November 2018 13: 36
    +11
    elections in Donbass were condemned by German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron, did not recognize the elections and condemned them by the US State Department.

    successively violated ... first glavnyuki-the US State Department, and only then Germany and France .... wink
    Kiev can not be mentioned at all ...
    1. LSA57
      LSA57 15 November 2018 14: 12
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      alternating broken ..

      symbolically however lol
    2. Henderson
      Henderson 16 November 2018 02: 21
      0
      So why do you mention all the time?
  4. Henderson
    Henderson 15 November 2018 13: 46
    +5
    Yeah, he commented on the criticism, but did not recognize the results of the elections themselves. Convenient position.
    1. Altona
      Altona 15 November 2018 14: 33
      +6
      Quote: Henderson
      Yeah, he commented on the criticism, but did not recognize the results of the elections themselves. Convenient position.

      -------------------------------
      In fact, all the unrecognized territories of the former USSR are Russian, and so are the "independent" states. In the paradigm in which Putin operates, recognizing and annexing territories (they are their own and no others) means angering the West. It is possible to unite Germany, but the USSR cannot. Therefore, Putin will avoid until the last disclosure of the status of Donbass.
  5. andrson
    andrson 15 November 2018 14: 09
    -2
    If only I could read these Minsk agreements. nobody publishes them.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 15 November 2018 14: 20
      +4
      Quote: Andrson
      If only I could read these Minsk agreements. nobody publishes them.

      They publish everything in a row.
      Offhand.
      https://ria.ru/world/20150212/1047311428.html
      1. andrson
        andrson 15 November 2018 14: 23
        -1
        Quote: Livonetc
        Quote: Andrson
        If only I could read these Minsk agreements. nobody publishes them.

        They publish everything in a row.
        Offhand.
        https://ria.ru/world/20150212/1047311428.html

        Thanks, I read.
      2. Henderson
        Henderson 16 November 2018 02: 24
        0
        By your own link
        "9. Restoration of full control over the state border by the government of Ukraine in the entire conflict zone, which should begin on the first day after the local elections"
        President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko, President of the French Republic Francois Hollande and Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany Angela Merkel confirm full respect for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine.


        No wonder Russia is accused of violating these agreements
        1. Consultant
          Consultant 16 November 2018 06: 17
          -4
          A typical example of the so-called "lies". The main thing is to correct the quote in time wink

          9. The restoration of full control over the state border by the Ukrainian government in the entire conflict zone, which should begin on the first day after local elections and end after a comprehensive political settlement ... subject to the item 11 - in consultation and in consultation with representatives of certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions within the framework of the Tripartite Contact Group.
          ...
          11 Carrying out constitutional reform in Ukraine with the entry into force of a new constitution by the end of 2015, which implies decentralization as a key element (taking into account the particularities of certain regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, agreed with representatives of these regions), as well as the adoption of permanent legislation on the special status of certain regions Donetsk and Lugansk areas in accordance with the measures referred to in note 1, until the end of 2015

          RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20150212/1047311428.html

          Well, where is the "implementation of paragraph 11"? Where is the "constitutional reform" in Ukraine, "taking into account the peculiarities of certain areas of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, agreed with the representatives of these areas"? Where?

          More thoroughly, my friend, more carefully ...
          1. Henderson
            Henderson 16 November 2018 10: 25
            0
            A typical example of your lies is cutting out uncomfortable phrases. We carefully read paragraph 9:

            9. Restoring full control over the state border by the government of Ukraine in the entire conflict zone, which should begin on the first day after local elections
            and end after a comprehensive political settlement (local elections in certain districts of Donetsk and Lugansk regions on the basis of the Law of Ukraine and constitutional reform) by the end of 2015 subject to the item 11


            COMPLETE subject to paragraph 11. But first, the restoration of control must begin, and on the first day after the election, because for the reform, the object of reform must first be created. And this is Putin’s business. guaranteed as a signatory to the arrangements.
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 16 November 2018 16: 50
              -4
              Quote: Henderson

              A typical example of your lies is

              Man, before you start arguing, read the document carefully. Entirely, not fragments.

              You either do not know how to do this or do not want to (I assume the second, you simply do not need it). And I’m absolutely not interested in teaching you this.
  6. Altona
    Altona 15 November 2018 14: 28
    +6
    In fact, Putin is absolutely right. For some reason, the West does not notice the violence and does not want to stop it. The "human rights activists" turn a blind eye to the killing of children, women and the elderly. However, in relation to the Russian population in the West, fascism is quite appropriate.
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 15 November 2018 14: 54
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      For some reason, the West does not notice the violence and does not want to stop it.

      the task of the West is different, therefore it does not notice and will not notice
    2. Henderson
      Henderson 16 November 2018 02: 26
      -1
      Putin bluntly said: "we will not stand in front, but behind"
      1. Consultant
        Consultant 16 November 2018 06: 55
        -4
        Quote: Henderson
        Putin bluntly said: "we will not stand in front, but behind"

        Thinner is necessary, my friend, finer. And more in vain ...
  7. canurodes
    canurodes 15 November 2018 14: 55
    0
    Good morning! These speeches should have been made in '14
  8. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 14: 58
    -3
    Condemn further. "Guarantors".
  9. Topotun
    Topotun 15 November 2018 15: 01
    +3
    Nothing happens. Everyone is waiting for some execution of the Minsk agreements from Russia, and the fact that the Kiev authorities are not doing anything, nobody prefers to notice
    - Putin declared

    Maybe it's high time to spit on the opinion of our "partners"?
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 15: 09
      0
      Quote: Topotun
      Nothing happens. Everyone is waiting for some execution of the Minsk agreements from Russia, and the fact that the Kiev authorities are not doing anything, nobody prefers to notice
      - Putin declared

      Maybe it's high time to spit on the opinion of our "partners"?

      So they do not listen.
      1. Topotun
        Topotun 15 November 2018 15: 10
        +3
        So far, unfortunately their opinion is taken into account. Otherwise, it seems to me that the question would have long been decided.
        1. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 15: 11
          +1
          Quote: Topotun
          So far, unfortunately their opinion is taken into account. Otherwise, it seems to me that the question would have long been decided.

          Yeah. Even the elections were held on Sunday.
          1. Topotun
            Topotun 15 November 2018 15: 14
            +5
            Yes, they did. And at the same time, ALL of our official talking heads are talking about the fact that Donbas is Ukraine and can only be considered as Ukraine ... And the fact that people with arms in their hands for 4 years proves unwillingness to live in Ukraine is gently dampened. At least in official statements.
            1. Andrey Chistyakov
              Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 15: 18
              -2
              Quote: Topotun
              Yes, they did. And at the same time, ALL of our official talking heads are talking about the fact that Donbas is Ukraine and can only be considered as Ukraine ... And the fact that people with arms in their hands for 4 years proves unwillingness to live in Ukraine is gently dampened. At least in official statements.

              Well, they might not have done it. And our support is there. Otherwise, they would be destroyed in 2014. Praise and honor to the inhabitants of Donbass. I as well as you worry. But agree. We do not have all the information, like there and what.
              1. Topotun
                Topotun 15 November 2018 15: 21
                +1
                You can't argue here, but sometimes it's a shame when another deputy praises on the radio that Donbass is Ukraine and we have nothing else to think about. Somehow you start to think very "friendly" about our lawmakers ....
                1. Andrey Chistyakov
                  Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 15: 23
                  +1
                  Well, let's just say that on duty phrases. Who thought that our Crimea will be !!!!
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    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 15 November 2018 15: 54
      -2
      Quote: Superpuper
      “Vladimir Putin said that sanctions would have been imposed, Vladimir Putin said that we raised the retirement age, but everyone is happy, Vladimir Putin has not known for 20 years what’s going on in the regions, all corrupt governors and mayors are afraid of him like fire, the State Department allocated $ 70 billion for the overthrow of Vladimir Putin, dissatisfied with pensions, utilities, salary - the machinations of the State Department. Any questions? - No questions."

      I freak out how easy it is to fool people, guys, and can I be your leader? I’m even more witty, you’ll live in cardboard boxes from under the refrigerators, and I will explain everything to you.

      Give it a try. Start with boxes from under the fridges. Good luck.
  11. depressant
    depressant 15 November 2018 16: 09
    -1
    I appeal to everyone present at this forum: are you ready to become victims of the wrong, weak, but essentially cowardly decision of any major politician? No? You are already a victim! For your kindred people suffer in the Donbass. Thousands of soldiers are fighting for Russian land and every day one of them dies. They die for you! By betraying them, you create the conditions for betraying yourself. And, believe me, it will be a betrayal! It is already there!
  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 November 2018 16: 47
    -1
    How to implement the Minsk agreements if they are written in a language unknown to science?
    Here is point 2 to provide monitoring and verification, is that what the aliens wrote?
    point 7 to continue the inclusive dialogue, but in Russian, how it will be and why it’s impossible immediately to write so that everyone understands
    point 8 Take measures to improve the humanitarian situation in the Donbass, we bet you will not find anywhere what the situation is called humanitarian.
    The President of Russia used to use different words, such as transparent and complementary, about the events in the Donbass. You begin to doubt whether this is our president if he has problems with the Russian language.
  13. 1536
    1536 15 November 2018 16: 59
    0
    In the West, they clearly want Russia's strategy for many years to come include such directions as splitting Germany into its constituent lands, separating Scotland and Northern Ireland from Britain, returning Texas to Mexico or creating an independent state from it on a par with California, returning the aborigines of Australia to their country, and its separation from the British Commonwealth following the example of South Africa, the creation on the basis of Canada of two Canada - French and British, in Italy Venice and Genoa should become independent states, separation from France of its "overseas territories" and their transformation into free countries, etc.? Will wait in the end.
  14. AnderS
    AnderS 15 November 2018 17: 21
    0
    All this will continue until profit is put at the forefront.
    1. If we recognize the independence of Donbas, this will entail sanctions against Russia. The fact that these sanctions will continue to operate and new ones will appear, because it is not the Donbass that is the root cause of these sanctions, but the desire of the collective West to mold Russia into an image of an enemy - for some reason nobody in Russia is interested. Probably because the Russian authorities also need to mold an enemy out of the West, so these characters benefit from such a position in front of the Russian "electorate" - we do nothing, and the West still imposes sanctions against us, look what bastards they are and how good we are in comparison with them ...
    2. If Donbass is included in Russia, it will become necessary to restore it, pay pensions to pensioners (when they cannot think of how to rip off their pensioners), resettle people who have lost their homes, etc. It is also fraught with "partisan" war on the part of any Nazi Ukrainian formations. In addition, Donbass is now playing the role of a buffer between Russia and Ukraine. This is to some extent beneficial to the Russian leadership, since if something bad happens in the Donbass, it allows the Russian leadership to formally stand aside from all this. If you include Donbass in Russia, all this will not be the case - the Russian leadership will have to be responsible for everything that happens there. All this is not beneficial to the Russian leadership, so Donbass will not be accepted into Russia.
    3. Skilled labor from the Donbas, squeezed out by the war, on the one hand, and on the other hand, fugitives from conscription from the rest of Ukraine, competes in the labor market in Russia and allows Russian bourgeois to pay lower salaries to Russians. This is also beneficial.
    In general, the end and edge of this bodyagi is not visible - capitalism is manifesting itself in all its glory and people will continue to die for metal.
  15. koshmarik
    koshmarik 16 November 2018 17: 22
    0
    What surprises me most is Aunt Merkel’s position in Ukraine (there’s nothing to take from Marcon - a chatterbox), it seems that she adopted Petusha and now pleases him in every way, forgiving and fully encouraging all his tricks - like fulfilling the Minsk agreements, a Nazi salutation during her meeting in Kiev, guarantees for pumping gas through a Kiev rusty pipe, etc., etc. I think that family affairs should not be confused with politics. It is fraught.