Belarus will produce its own small arms

Belarus is working on the organization of its own production of small weapons. This was announced by the chairman of the state military industrial complex of the republic Roman Golovchenko, Belarusian media reported.

pistol PV-17 caliber 9 × 19

According to Golovko, the task of developing domestic weapons for the Belarusian military-industrial complex has been set by President of the Republic Alexander Lukashenko. Currently, work in this direction is carried out quite actively. He explained that weapons are already being assembled in Belarus, but only from imported components. Also, an enterprise is currently being erected, in which the production of ammunition will be mastered first, and then the manufacture of its own small arms will be organized.

PSN-V pistol

Golovko noted that in Belarus there are gifted designers who are already engaged in the creation of domestic models of small arms. At the same time, he stressed that they face the task of creating such a weapon that could withstand competition in the world market.

Meanwhile, according to the publication on the website "Warspot", in January of this year, Belarusian gunsmiths already showed gun PV-17 caliber 9 × 19 mm own production. In addition, in May 2017, at the MILEX-2017 exhibition, the company Belspetsvneshtekhnika - New Technologies presented new pistol PSN-V.

Comments

[Sergey39]

What for? Belarus still will not be able to become a fully self-sufficient country.
It would not be desirable. Even the United States purchases part of the consumed product abroad.

[Svarog]

From an economic point of view, the project will be clearly unprofitable, as there will be few buyers, given that this market is highly competitive now. Now, if we were talking about high-tech weapons, at low prices, then yes, there is potential ..

[Russia]

They did not indicate under whose cartridge this idea. Usually a cartridge, then a product. From Makara?

[novel66]

9 * 19 - Parabellum

[Russia]

Thanks for clarifying

[novel66]

So, in the article there was, and about the desire to establish production on its territory. anyway-

[Russia]

Somehow it didn’t reach me that the cartridge would be released for it.

[novel66]

like you, quite rightly. noticed - at first the cartridge, otherwise why take it ...

[igorj 51]

Quote: novel xnumx

first a cartridge, otherwise why take it ...

They do this all over the world, they first develop a cartridge and then create a weapon under it and not vice versa. This is an axiom.

[Avior]

9 * 19 Parabelum is the most common pistol cartridge in the world for many years.

[Shurik70]

Not the fact that 9 * 19 Parabelum. Although it would be beneficial for unification with PV-17.
That's what ammunition cartridge they will release themselves, under this they will do it.
At the expense of "unprofitableness" and "Belarus will never be self-sufficient" - it will be self-sufficient in what it can. At the expense of unprofitableness - any army and law enforcement agencies consume the budget. And the funds are returned - by government orders and economic stability

[Doliva63]

Quote: Rusland

They did not indicate under whose cartridge this idea. Usually a cartridge, then a product. From Makara?

Native cartridges need to know: PM - 9x18

[Russia]

I agree, I remember the machine gun, but this one was forgotten.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Svarog

From an economic point of view, the project will be clearly unprofitable, as there will be few buyers, given that this market is highly competitive now. Now, if we were talking about high-tech weapons, at low prices, then yes, there is potential ..

And why do you consider the arming of your country (at least with small arms) unprofitable? In fact, all expenditures on their defense are not considered profitable anywhere.

[Avior]

because the cost is highly dependent on the volume of output.

[vkl.47]

VP-17 is very reminiscent of the early PL-14

[race]

Quote: Sergey39

What for? Belarus still will not be able to become a fully self-sufficient country.
It would not be desirable.

Read carefully:

President of the Republic Alexander Lukashenko sets the task of developing domestic weapons before the Belarusian military-industrial complex

[Sergey39]

I’ll clarify how Lukashenka wouldn’t like this.

[race]

Quote: Sergey39

I’ll clarify how Lukashenka wouldn’t like this.

Then these are questions to him. But, in general, I can clarify the situation a little. RB in previous years was one of the leading arms exporters, selling weapons left in warehouses and not only warehouses of BVI. But in recent years, the Soviet stock has already been noticeably depleted, and it is possible to sell less and less from it. Therefore, in all likelihood, attempts are being made to establish the production of at least some types of weapons that Belarusian industry can master in order to be present on the arms export market.

[igorj 51]

Quote: Sergey39

Even the USA buys part of the consumed product abroad

Russia also buys part of the consumed product abroad, does this mean that Russia, too, will not be able to become a fully self-sufficient country?

[Ushly_bashkort]

Does the leadership have such a goal?

[Naughty]

Quote: Sergey39

What for? Belarus still will not be able to become a fully self-sufficient country.

Apparently the production of ax shovels and rakes is tired

[210ox]

Well?!. And "Polonez" and tractors? About toprs and rakes, no songs ... But for this pistol, the appearance is somehow not very good .. Is the bluing of a high quality?

[sogdy]

Quote: 210ox

Is bluing something good?

This does not seem to be bluing (neither oxide nor chemical). Paint (unlikely) or plastic coating.

[Sewer krainiy]

Apparently the production of ax shovels and rakes is tired
So, by the way, tests of two Belarusian unmanned BelAZs and one unmanned excavator (whose ones were not named) will be tested at a coal mine in Russia .. Learn materiel, combat engineer ...

[210ox]

Otherwise, you can only blurt out without thinking .. In addition to Belazov and the MZKT, at least a dozen large manufacturers of fairly advanced equipment immediately come to mind. Belarusians were able to save and increase a lot. As a result, this is another topic.

[mavrus]

Well Belaz and the Belorus tractor are their strong points ... They have been producing them all their lives, they are known all over the world. But does it make sense to start from scratch to compete in the small arms market?

[BAI]

The fact that Belarus is going to make weapons is correct, each country should be self-sufficient in this matter if it wants to maintain independence.
But the cable in the photo is ch.m.o.shny.

[Genry]

Quote: BAI

But the cable in the photo is ch.m.o.shny.

Write a detailed article about cables. This topic will be very interesting to VO readers.

[BAI]

Why an article? And so it is clear that it was somehow necessary:

[Avior]

if you do with a bicycle, only the wheel will remain

[Operator]

If Belarusians follow the path of copying other people's products (with cosmetic changes), no one will buy them, since the global market for riflemen is littered with Brazilian, South African, Singaporean, Egyptian, Chinese and God knows what other cheap clones of American, Russian and European original models are.

[Catfish]

Fuse on the cross bolt ... hmmm ...

[Saints]

I think this is just a working sample. Such bolts simply can not be in the series. Yes, and in appearance it is visible.

[not main]

Quote: Sea Cat

Fuse on the cross bolt ... hmmm ...

Actually this is a screw.

[vladcub]

To establish the production of small arms does not mean that a production culture and technical experience will immediately appear.
Small arms are now produced in many countries, but not all are listed on the arms market.

[vladcub]

Quote: Operator

If Belarusians follow the path of copying other people's products (with cosmetic changes), no one will buy them, since the global market for riflemen is littered with Brazilian, South African, Singaporean, Egyptian, Chinese and God knows what other cheap clones of American, Russian and European original models are.

And this is most likely

[Ferdinant]

To the delight of the president.

[Ros 56]

They need pistols for horseradish, they have more than one war supply there, and they don’t fight with pistols. The gun for defense against gopnik. And for specialists it’s easier to buy, it will be cheaper. Why chase the big countries, the more this market is divided, the conditions there are different.

[Altona]

There are probably designers in the country who are talented, but there are big problems with designers. Finishing and design of products are absolutely none. Rather, those that resemble a harsh partisan life, similar to homemade products or working prototypes.

[Boozer]

It’s cheaper to buy for the army. For the police, there are plenty of pasta in warehouses. But the production of cartridges is a necessary thing.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Boozer

It’s cheaper to buy for the army. For the police, there are plenty of pasta in warehouses. But the production of cartridges is a necessary thing.

In our sanctions world, nothing for the army / war can be bought on the side - only your own. Otherwise, you can get burned. But this is so, in general, with regard to our former BSSR, it is not worth it to be afraid of contracts with the Russian Federation.

[Kerensky]

Hm! And if they are planning a breakthrough? Then Old Man himself will build and equip the plant. Just be quiet.

[JonnyT]

do everything right! In the future, partisans will need to be able to provide themselves with weapons, and this is much easier if there is localized production

[Topotun]

In vain they are, the rifle market is divided for a long time and tightly. It would be better to develop other areas. For example, a chassis for wheeled tanks or gun mounts. On the basis of MAZ .... Maybe there would be a chance. For myself, it also makes no sense. Maybe of course they will allow a civilian short-barrel ... But this is unlikely.

[beeper]

Each head of state wants to be a "exporting country" of weapons, as this is a mega-profitable business (if, of course, he can win his niche in this state mafia "world market" ) and the AHL, looking for sources of income for their country, is no exception.
Moreover, the union-state affair with acceptable new Russian pistols has unjustifiably dragged on and the end-edge of this leapfrog is not visible, as well as satisfactory "proposals", so that the Belarusians have a good chance to please their army with an actual this, cash "steam" is mediocre not to go down the "whistle" and the pockets of the involved figures.
So I understand that the Article also hints at own Belarusian production of "long-barreled" rifles and machine guns (Ukrainian neighbors, for example, went the simple way of assembling Israeli-American samples very curious what the Belarusians will do?) ?!
But if you take it seriously, you need to create small arms samples that are at least 1,5 times superior to the latest AK models and acceptable at the cost of production, put them on stream and arm your aircraft, and then, with good reason, offer to export. The task is quite intense, but promising, especially since there is complete stagnation in this niche of small arms, both in Russia and in the West and the Middle East. Whether the talents of the "Belarusian rifle school" of weapon design are enough for me is very interesting, because it is by no means "gods burn pots" - you need to tackle a technical problem and, with the right approach-concept, everything will definitely work out!
According to the model of the compact PSN-V last year, respected Mark Poddubny wrote on VO and the link is in this news, I expressed my thoughts there too, so I don’t want to repeat myself.
It is clear that, with the establishment of serial production and comprehensive operational tests, the design and construction of these pistols (presented, so far, in the form of working "concept layouts") will be accordingly modified.

[av58]

PV-17 looks surprisingly reminiscent of a Lebedev pistol.

[Sewer krainiy]

Fake, my opinion. The main thing in this message is that "the president has set a task ..." Zmagars are being substituted.
Зwith what? Belarus still can not

[Sewer krainiy]

What for? Belarus still can not
And this is very obvious.
And they would have made Stechkin under the TT cartridge !!!

[Severok]

I have no doubt that Russia's neighbors have smart heads for creating their own models of both ammunition and small arms.
I have no doubt that the economy of Belarus will draw its own samples of small arms in production in an amount that will allow the Republic of Belarus to be self-sufficient.
What I’m absolutely sure that the modern system of capitalism will not leave attempts to put sticks in the wheels of the process of creating and adopting, and even more so mass production, of our own models of small arms in the Republic of Belarus.

[Catfish]

Quote: av58

PV-17 looks surprisingly reminiscent of a Lebedev pistol.

I wouldn't say so. "Lebedev" is aesthetically pleasing and elegant, and this one is made as in vocational school with a chisel and a scraper. No design.

[Avior]

I wonder what kind of second pimpochka, except for the fuse?

[WOLF330]

Quote: 210ox

Well?!. And "Polonez" and tractors? About toprs and rakes, no songs ... But for this pistol, the appearance is somehow not very good .. Is the bluing of a high quality?

Thought about the same ...

[WOLF330]

Ours seem to look cooler)) 9X19

[Sochi]

If it’s no secret, what outstanding small arms were created by gifted Belarusian designers? Where does it come from and what armies are they armed with?

[Bauer]

In the market of pistols there is no place to find. Oversaturated.