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Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation will consider the request of Yevkurov on the border with Chechnya as a priority

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The question of trying to draw a clear boundary between the two subjects of the Russian Federation, the Chechen Republic and the Republic of Ingushetia, is still acute. At the same time, everyone is well aware that any thoughtless step in this matter can ignite a fire throughout the North Caucasus. And to what such a fire eventually leads, Russia remembers the events of the 90-s.


Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation will consider the request of Yevkurov on the border with Chechnya as a priority


It became known that the Constitutional Court of Russia will urgently consider the request of the head of the Republic of Ingushetia, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov. Evkurov, we recall, sent a letter to the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation with a request to determine the presence (or absence) of compliance with the Basic Law of the agreement on the border with the Czech Republic. Evkurov, in fact, asks to consider the possibility of ignoring the decision, adopted by the Ingush Constitutional Court and declaring this decision illegal. Recall that the Ingush Constitutional Court declared illegal the ratification by the republican parliament of the very agreement on the border.

Thus, several axes of opposition within Ingushetia were outlined at once. These are the “Parliament - the Constitutional Court of the Republic of Ingushetia” and “The Constitutional Court of the Republic of Ingushetia is the head of the republic”.

Yevkurov’s request will be considered by the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation on a priority basis until November 27. For reference: the usual consideration of requests by the Constitutional Court of Russia takes at least three months from the date of submission.

In this regard, the question arises: if the Constitutional Court of Russia recognizes the decision of the Constitutional Court of Ingushetia as illegal, what could this lead to in Ingushetia, where numerous protests took place? If the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation supports the Kyrgyz Republic of Ingushetia, this will become a precedent, which can also have ambiguous consequences.

In any case, the border issue between the subjects of the federation is extremely complex and cannot be resolved without a multilateral discussion with consideration of all the pros and cons.

The border agreement between Chechnya and Ingushetia implies the transfer of Ingushetia from Chechnya to the mountainous and wooded area of ​​the Nadterechny region. Ingushetia “for leveling the border” transmits to the Czech Republic a territory of similar size on the border with the Malgobek region.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 15 November 2018 08: 14
    +4
    I would generally postpone the solution of this issue indefinitely until everyone calms down ... where to rush to develop the conflict ... and solve this issue by a common decision of the peoples of the Caucasus ... an authority that would have authority both for the Ingush and Chechens.
    1. SOF
      SOF 15 November 2018 08: 28
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I would generally put off resolving this issue indefinitely

      ...."strike while the iron is hot".....
      .... cannot be postponed, since long-term postponement has already led to what it has led to .... and further "rubber", in this matter, is nothing more than indulging the initiators of the old, and already very strongly smoldering, conflict ......
      ..... but the idea of ​​creating an aksakal organ is a topic, but only if there is someone from the center above the aksakals, maybe less over-age, but more authoritative .....
      ..... it is important to show the highlanders that the rest of Russia absolutely does not care about their problems ....
      1. Logall
        Logall 15 November 2018 08: 51
        +11
        And who will return to the Cossacks their original lands - Derbent, Makhachkala, Kizlyar, etc. transmitted by the Soviet leadership? And also the Terek villages cleared from the indigenous population in the 90s in Chechnya and Ingushetia ...
        We care about the highlanders, but not the Russians!
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 15 November 2018 09: 14
          +3
          Logall (Alexander) hi
          but no Russians!
          Alexander, what are you talking about now !!! When in Russia they cared about Russians. And remembered what they are? Ai no. I’m lying. During the wars they remembered that we are. And the rest of the time ... I will not say anything. We Russians have been sacrificed for the same pension genocide. And how many years in the above-mentioned republics plan to retire? (This is no longer for you Alexander) This is fascinated fellow citizens on the site.
          1. hrych
            hrych 15 November 2018 10: 54
            +1
            The plan is to gather the Chechen army and the army of the Ingush, and whoever defeats both the border and that of Chechen-Ingushetia completely, and in the culmination of the battle without rules between Yevkurov and Kadyrov.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 15 November 2018 11: 34
              +2
              Maybe start with a fight, it will become cheaper
              1. hrych
                hrych 15 November 2018 12: 19
                0
                No, it’s always useful to utilize hot guys, it will be calmer at the turn wassat
        2. SOF
          SOF 15 November 2018 09: 18
          +5
          Quote: Logall
          We care about the highlanders, but not the Russians!

          ..... TRPRRUUU ....sow...... you don’t have much blood in the mid-90s .....? .... so I’ll tell you a secret - in the yard of 2018 ....
          ... what kind of people are you .... then bring the revolution, then declare war ...... chasing the pluses? ....
          .and in general.... similar opuses to the article pull ..... it is so .... for education .....
          1. Logall
            Logall 15 November 2018 09: 26
            +6
            To the article? I do not call anyone for ethnic intolerance! But I call for justice! If it came to returning the lands, then I don’t want, I just can’t forget about the lands on which my ancestors shed blood - Cossacks! And Derbent is generally the birthplace of the illustrious commander Bagration. With such moods, we will soon give Pyatigorsk to Vainakhs ... They are already building entire areas there for themselves!
            1. SOF
              SOF 15 November 2018 09: 39
              +2
              Quote: Logall
              But I call for justice!

              .... more accurately on the turns - from calls for national justice to ethnic hatred - one maaaalenky and slippery step .....
              Quote: Logall
              They are already building entire areas there for themselves!

              ...and....? then what? .... we will build reservations .... or at the legislative level we will prohibit them from settling in Pyatigorsk .... we segregate, to be honest? ....
              ...... there is no dear ...... if we want them to, then, together with us, trample the next democratizer into dust — we should live with them in one state ... and make good .... ..
              ........ in addition ... and the Avar, who mined gold for Russia at the Olympics ..... and Vainakh, as part of the military police of the RF Armed Forces in Syria ..... and the Tatar, in the Russian Guard .. .... and Kazakh at the factory ...... etc. ..... all ... they ... with passports of the Russian Federation .... no less Russian than you and me ... DO NOT BELIEVE? - ask foreigners ......
              1. user
                user 15 November 2018 09: 55
                +4
                ........ in addition ... and the Avar, who mined gold for Russia at the Olympics ..... and Vainakh, as part of the military police of the RF Armed Forces in Syria ..... and the Tatar, in the Russian Guard .. .... and Kazakh at the factory ...... etc. ..... all ... they ... with passports of the Russian Federation .... no less Russian than you and me ... DO NOT BELIEVE? - ask foreigners ......


                What's the problem?

                And the problem of equal treatment of all, and not just small people and the problem of compliance, I draw special attention to all the laws of the Russian Federation, even in mono-ethnic formations of Russia. Not giving preference to any one or other nationality.

                This is the problem.
                1. SOF
                  SOF 15 November 2018 10: 06
                  0
                  Quote: user
                  This is the problem

                  ... I do not argue .... there is not a single multi-ethnic state where a similar problem would be solved once and for all .....
                  ..... there is always a smoldering spark of hostility, which is often used by all kinds of "partners" ..... am I wrong? .....
              2. albert
                albert 15 November 2018 18: 23
                0
                Quote: SOF
                We will build reservations ...

                Actually a good thought. Democratic and American. laughing laughing
              3. snake
                snake 16 November 2018 10: 47
                0
                Quote: SOF
                if we want them to, then, together with us, trample the next democratizer into dust — we should live in the same state with them ... and make good things ......

                Are you sure that "they" will trample the democratizer with us, and not, sensing that the democratizer is stronger, trample us along with him? Remind you of a similar situation in the recent past, or guess yourself?
                Good money ... Well ... We - profit. They - wring out or receive subsidies ...
        3. Sayan
          Sayan 15 November 2018 10: 28
          0
          For all the positive things that were done in the USSR, it must be admitted that by cutting the borders of the republics or by uniting the peoples into one republic, as they did, the Bolsheviks laid a time bomb
        4. snake
          snake 15 November 2018 10: 29
          +4
          Quote: Logall
          And who will return to the Cossacks their original lands - Derbent, Makhachkala, Kizlyar, etc. transmitted by the Soviet leadership?

          Maybe the Cossacks themselves? They are already 700 thousand only registered.
          1. hrych
            hrych 15 November 2018 11: 00
            -1
            And you don’t drag on the Cossacks, while you are writing slogans, they fought in Transnistria and defended the eastern bank of the Dniester, they fought in the Caucasus and defended Russian statehood and helped return Abkhazia, fought for the Bosnian Serbs, they helped a lot in Crimea and right now hold the Donbass front. Therefore, if I were you, I would be silent for a while. they will pile in your face while stroking the seat with a whip, and the hour is uneven and festive garlands will be hung on the lights.
            1. snake
              snake 15 November 2018 14: 45
              +5
              Quote: hrych
              they fought in Transnistria and defended the eastern bank of the Dniester, they fought in the Caucasus and defended Russian statehood and helped return Abkhazia, fought for the Bosnian Serbs, they helped a lot in the Crimea and right now they are holding the Donbass front.

              Those who fought are their minority. For one worthy - ten clowns.
              Quote: hrych
              Therefore, if I were you, I would be silent for a while. they will pile in your face while stroking the seat with a whip, and the hour is uneven and festive garlands will be hung on the lights.

              Why what, and such cases were noticed by the Cossacks. How much working blood did your Cossacks drink?
              And for your information, I in no way belong to the bulk. This was an example of "worthy opponents" for the modern operetta Cossacks.
              1. hrych
                hrych 15 November 2018 23: 40
                -2
                If there are at least ten worthy people for one worthy, then you have defamed all the Cossacks, defiled for a bunch of worthy people who have shed blood for their own friends. My advice, do not touch these people as a whole, do not catch the worthy.
                1. snake
                  snake 16 November 2018 10: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: hrych
                  My advice, do not touch these people as a whole, do not catch the worthy.

                  If it were not for the circus that the "Cossacks" arrange (I do not take into account the Cossacks of the LPR / DPR), then I would not care who they are, what they are. But when I see some “esaul” with a red face and in medals, a la Brezhnev, why not laugh at such a character?
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 16 November 2018 11: 32
                    -2
                    These citizens are special full-time clowns of the fifth column, to discredit the already powerful internal, albeit so far social, but paramilitary force, tested in real battle. Of course, this force will be aimed at stopping the danger from the shakers of statehood and to help protect order. In Kuban, etc., at stations and in the streets, patrolling and effective assistance to law enforcement agencies are taking place. Also along this line is a very significant preservation of cultural traditions and the patriotic education of the younger generation.
                    1. snake
                      snake 16 November 2018 23: 05
                      0
                      Quote: hrych
                      These citizens are special full-time fifth column clowns

                      As Occam's Razor says: one should not multiply things unnecessarily. What I mean. During this period, the Cossacks experienced a very brutal cleansing by the Bolsheviks. There are few real Cossacks left, and now they accept "Cossacks" just about anyone. So it turns out that among the Cossacks there is a huge number of Dodiks, who are coveted for uniforms, caps, checkers and other external attributes. Here, even the fifth column can not be remembered - their fools (those who are worse than a smart enemy) in abundance. Our homeland is rich, including such a category of citizens.
                      And normal Cossacks - respect and honor. It would be great if they would more strictly select candidates for their ranks and expel all sorts of posers and marginals.
        5. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 15 November 2018 11: 47
          +2
          Quote: Logall
          And who will return to the Cossacks their original lands - Derbent

          belay ))) When there was such a city of Derbent (and this is millennia by the way) Cossacks a priori did not exist in nature. )) Before our era everything is muddy there. From the beginning of our era to the 5th century it was a Christian Caucasian city of Albania. Then the Arabs conquered the population of the book "Derbentname", the Arabs themselves describe their atrocities. Then the invasion of the Seljuk Turks in the 11th century was complete Islamization. From the 16th century, the Safavids, then the Persians completely settled there. Then the Cossacks shared with the Az-ts. Whoever claims this city is the Arabs, Persians, Lezgins, Dargins, Rutuls, Tabasarans, Azerbaijanis and the Cossacks joined)))
          The history of chtoli would be revered, about its opinion purely from the outset, the Persians and maybe the Caucasians rather founded it. And later the 5th century, the Huns and Khazars appeared, and later the Seljuks and Oguzes pulled themselves up to the 11th century. When the city was not like Cossacks, people like Russian was not in nature, and even more so in that region. Yes, Herodotus himself got there. More rights from the descendants of the Romans than from the Cossacks in terms of originality)))
          1. Logall
            Logall 15 November 2018 12: 05
            +2
            I agree, Derbent - once a Persian ... But in the end he stayed with the Cossacks! But Khrushchev’s voluntary decision crossed all efforts ... But Makhachkala was founded by Russians - Port Petro, if I’m not mistaken. I still said nothing for Grozny ..
            And I also worked in the village of Zelenchukskaya in the KCR, in the Cossack village, where apparently no Cossacks from minarets are called for prayers ...
            1. Lekxnumx
              Lekxnumx 15 November 2018 12: 53
              +4
              Quote: Logall
              I agree, Derbent - once Persian

              I honestly took an interest in the history of Derbent only about Makhachkala Grochny, I don’t know, I won’t argue. I was a reader of zealous disputes on the forums between the Az-ts and Caucasians and by the way there were great people among them. The position of the Turks was based solely on the falsification of the ancient part of history, they simply did not accept the arguments. But the position of the Caucasians is also very weak, there are few sources from a historical point of view to please the Caucasians. For the city is 3000-5000 years, the oldest city in Russia, though the debate is the most or no. After everything I read, I came to the conclusion that the Persian city was more likely. As I myself participated in disputes, the inhabitants of the Magal yards of the Terekem (Azerbaijanis) proved to me that they always lived here. Well then I gave them an example that even Magal, a word taken in az -Farsi language. I brought a modern dictionary and the old one in addition Turkish. I could not convince the Persians are still the ancient civilization and the name of the city is the Persian name. The truth and the Caucasians have their toponyms of the city of Chali at the Dargins of Kverar at the Lezgins. The strategic location of the Caspian gate whoever lived there, Jews, Armenians, and so now. Let us agree that this is a city given by the Russian Federation, is governed by the laws of the Russian Federation multinational .Persians residents of the city assimilated or left the city but still the largest Shiite diaspora in the Russian Federation there. Until now there are Jews, Armenians,
              Az-tsu, Lezgin, Agul, Tabasaran, Dargin, Rutul, Kumyks, Laks, Russians, Tat, Avars. An amazing city with the richest history. I would say the pearl of Russia more, I will definitely visit this city. Such a history must be seen with my own eyes. The mosque is the oldest in the Russian Federation, synagogues of Jews of the 9-10th centuries, the church in Naryn Kala of the 5th century which later became the temple of fire worshipers, probably built during the days of Albania, Caucasian Christianity and later the Persians returned or came. Drinking water from a 7th century spring is priceless (just imagine who drank water there, what generals), I am an atheist, but I visit historical religious places, purely with interest.
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 15 November 2018 19: 46
                0
                Quote: Lek3338
                Persians residents of the city assimilated or left the city but still the largest Shiite diaspora in the Russian Federation there

                well, it’s not Persians, Azerbaijanis are partly immigrants from Iran. And the Shiites are there most, not because they were Persians))) It’s the Turks of Kyzylbashi who spread Shiism, and the Turki of the Ottomans are Sufism. Persians and Arabs in this matter do not played roles other than the original when Islam itself spread.
                And one Lezgin village is Shiite Miskindzha, by the way, if I am not mistaken, the Persian name too.
                Quote: Lek3338
                There are still Jews, Armenians,
                Az-tsu, Lezghins, Aguls, Tabasarans, Dargins, Rutuls, Kumyks, Laks, Russians, Tat, Avars

                But still, the main population is Azerbaijanis and Lezghins.
                Azerbaijanis have been dominant for almost a thousand years, now the number of Lezgins is even, and therefore they will claim historical affiliation ..
                1. Lekxnumx
                  Lekxnumx 23 November 2018 01: 19
                  0
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Lezgin is a Shiite Miskindzha, by the way, if I am not mistaken, also the Persian name.

                  Miskindzha is one of the small Lezgi Shiite villages (in which Lezshins are Shiites), one or two, it is not surprising that the Persian toponym. But I tell you more there are villages in Dagestan with the Turkic toponym Maharram (Kent) but the Lezgins themselves never used them, and called Maharramhur.
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Azerbaijanis have been dominant for almost a thousand years, now the number of Lezgins is even

                  Are the sources too loud? As they say, pick any Azerbaijani or come out as a Persian or Lezgin, refers to some regions. Hansı azərbaycanlını qurdalasan ya fars cıxacag yada ləzgi. This rule works in all regions of Shamakhydan oyan.
                  1. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 23 November 2018 02: 50
                    0
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    Miskindzha is one of the small Lezgi Shiite villages (where Shia Lezshins live), one or two,

                    as I know it is the only such Lezgi village.
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    Ali, I’ll tell you more in Dagestan there are villages with the Turkic toponym Maharram (Kent), but the Lezghins themselves never used them, but they called Maharramhür.

                    so it is throughout Dagestan like that. Khasavyurt, Kayakent is that large as a keepsake.
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    Too loudly said there are sources?

                    Since the time of the Khazar, the Türks have been densely in this part of the region, it is another matter how to perceive the Türks, for me it is our ancestors therefore we have the right to their heritage. Well this is my vision, each Turk has the right to the heritage of the other if one of them disappears. so yes it is a Persian fortress originally.
                    Quote: Lek3338
                    As the saying goes, pick any Azerbaijani or come out as a Persian or Lezgin, refers to some regions

                    Nuuu is the opinion from the series that in any Russian Tatar. To do this, we need to conduct a full-fledged study to say ANYONE. Since we can observe both Lezginov black and nosed, and Azerbaijani Türks of light typical North Caucasians. And talk about Persians in this the region is even more difficult, since they were supplanted from the region a very long time ago.

                    Hands still do not reach for the analysis of genes. It would be interesting to observe the progress of ancestors over several thousand years. I know about a couple of hundred years.
                    1. Lekxnumx
                      Lekxnumx 23 November 2018 14: 18
                      0
                      Quote: Yeraz
                      Nuuu is the opinion from the series that in any Russian Tatar. To do this, we need to conduct a full-fledged study to say ANYONE. Since we can observe both Lezginov black and nosed, and Azerbaijani Türks of light typical North Caucasians. And talk about Persians in this the region is even more difficult, since they were supplanted from the region a very long time ago.

                      I also thought so, I thought I didn’t look like Lezgin, then I met an anthropologist, sent him a photo, it turned out from me and sticks out Lezgin. The case is in the details the structure of the cheekbones, etc., and not in luminosity. That is, the European can be black, hair, eyebrows, black beard. True, my skin is not at all dark white, there is nowhere whiter, the sun does not work well.
                      Carry out a genetic test, I will also conduct about 1000 dollars a few years ago, it was no more. Azerbaijan DNA production conducted a test for 1000 people from all regions of the DNA test. Only 8 people turned out to be Turkic people, I threw off the video of the court. But then it was removed, from one Lezgin from Kusarov they revealed the great-grandfather of the Scandinavian))) who settled there in the Middle Ages. And genetically, exactly half of them are identical with the Armenians. This is confirmed by both Armenian and Azerbaijani sources, but they do not advertise. In Turkey, the son of one of the most famous professor Shengory says directly. We Turks have nothing to do with the Turks of Central Asia, we have no genetically so anthropological. To do this, you do not need to be a specialist, narrow-eyed Turks and Europeid Az-ts and Turks stand out immediately. But outwardly, the Az-ts are very similar to the Armenians and Persians. like the pragmatism of the Turks. Resist this mainly religious people, recently watched.
                      1. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 23 November 2018 18: 16
                        0
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Carry out a genetic test, I will also conduct about $ 1000 a few years ago, it was no more

                        but still this does not mean that it will reveal your blood completely, it simply shows the paths of your people and the coincidence.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        And yes, exactly half of the genetics are identical with Armenians

                        so in the north who will not be scratched with lezgin, the rest are Persians and half of all remaining Armenians)))) My great ancestors were able to once with a scanty amount dissolve into a LOT, but make their identity Türkic, and not vice versa))
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        But outwardly, the Az-ts are very similar to the Armenians and Persians

                        here you can say the opposite))
                        Today in the mosque it was funny the second one came up and asked a question, one of them was a specific fighter from Timur’s army, narrow and most importantly sharp eyes and features so severe and gray eyes, so wolfish and the second small one with big green eyes. He asked who the nation was Tajiks))) True, they themselves took me for the Uzbek of Tashkent)))
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Mostly religious people resist this, recently watched.

                        strangely religious are mostly far from a nationalistic theme, how many times Astafurullah would not immediately speak about Bozgurd and nationalism among religious Azerbaijanis))))
                      2. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 23 November 2018 18: 49
                        0
                        Quote: Yeraz
                        but still this does not mean that it will reveal your blood completely, it simply shows the paths of your people and the coincidence.

                        Wow!
                        Quote: Yeraz
                        so in the north who will not scrape with lezgin, the rest are Persians and half of all remaining Armenians)))) My great ancestors were able to dissolve in a LARGE mass with a tiny amount, but make their identity Türkic, and not vice versa))

                        Mixing of bloods, do not forget that the population in those days was incomparably smaller than now, even a small number could do a lot. Take the same Baku, the Tats all assimilated, sometimes I communicate with them they say Bizim Oz Dilimiz Wards, but young people do not know, Tats in this regard, the weakest people. In Guba, even the Danyrlar survived more or less. Separately from the rest of the Persians they lived and assimilated, like the Arabs of Azerbaijan, and there were not a few of them. To preserve a strong culture, the Turks have it. The Tats do not have 100 years. enough to assimilate any people. Soviet cohabitation left an indelible mark on the cultures of nations. The Turks have a strong culture of epics, myths, and fairy tales, by the way, I am informed about them by more than 80%, the so-called Az-tsev Turks. It's not surprising that I speak in az-tsev. Ski is better than most, as in Russian for some Russians. For example, I was brought up on my Lezghin epics Kiri Buba, Sharvili Makhar, etc. But I have relatives to the question of what Lezghinism is, what culture, you will hear such an answer "Lezginka var" does not know a damn thing further. There is one clan, only one who knows, the whole clan can be saved from assimilation. Often heard Azerbaijanianlyam ama babam filankes olub, ereb olub, lezgi olub, farce olub, etc. If there were no modern Az-na, for example, be part of Iran, most Bakuvians would call themselves by farces, as they are now separating the Daglyam. The Uk-eyed Tajik and the Tajik Persian differ at once, they mix with the Uzbeks for many centuries. But I will not confuse the Tajik and the Uzbek, by the way there are Uzbeks of the European form. There is always an exception to the rule, but you need to judge by the majority. for example, profess Turkism because the Ottoman Empire was, the same Slavs in the Balkans, how did they assimilate into Muslims, even changed their names? State policy. By the way, the Lezgins are assimilated in this regard, and the Turks Aze Rbayjan under the influence of religion under the Arabs and Persians, who at the beginning of the 20th century called the Turkic names from the Turks MIZER, as now, although they have increased. There are few real Lezgins with Lezghin names, like the Turks with Turkic names. Turkism, that is, to admit to them that they are more Greeks, Armenians, Georgians are not in highs, roughly speaking. But this is what distinguishes religion, history from science. Statehood politics is what determines in many ways. Aliyev said when opening the bridge bir millet iki devlet time required .And then, in front of the cadets, men fehr ediremki azerbaijanliyam. And he was against Vakhabhade's initiative to name the Az language in the constitution of azerbaijani turkchesi.
                      3. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 23 November 2018 20: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        like the Arabs of Azerbaijan and there were quite a few

                        By the way, yes, the Arab factor is generally missed by the majority, although there were many dynasties and in the proportion of the population.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        like Turkic with Turkic names

                        Well, according to statistics, of course, the leaders are Muhammad, Ali, Hussein, Hassan, Omar, but not the majority of Turkic names, but not scanty. According to their relatives, this is about 60% Arabic, 30% Turkic and 10% Persian.
                        Although the variety of names was noticed, it keeps up with the Turkish TV series in Russia, so that it is easier for the Russians to pronounce))) Therefore Madin, Mylene and Sofia became very numerous among the girls, and the boys Ruslana, Emina, Ali, etc.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Remember the religionists in Turkey are the Ottomans and this is Turkism, that is

                        I don’t quite agree. The Ottomanists are the Ottomans, and the Turkists are the Turkists. Although both love the Ottoman Empire, they have different attitudes to the policies pursued.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        to admit to them that they are more Greeks, Armenians, Georgians not in a buzz roughly speaking

                        Therefore, there was a situation in which the Osmanets or Osmanly nation almost arose, if it weren’t for Ataturk and the Turks raising their heads, it would have happened. But the Turks raised their heads, they started to carry out a tough nationalist policy.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        And he was against the initiative of Vahabhade on the name of the Az language in the constitution of Azerbaijan Turkiches.

                        You know how our people were led until 1995 through Turk dili textbooks and the Turk milleti was said. If the national leader REALIST comes, not a dreamer, then everyone who tears his shirt on his chest shouting we are not TURKS, we are Azerbaijanis, the ancient people living here fastest they will change their shirts and become ardent Türkists, and among them there will be many purebred Lezgins, Tats and Talyshs. In Turkey, there were many other Kurds among the ardent nationalists.
                      4. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 23 November 2018 21: 18
                        0
                        Quote: Yeraz
                        If the national leader, a REALIST, and not a dreamer comes, then everyone who rips a shirt on his chest shouting we are not TURKS, we Azerbaijanis, the ancient people living here will quickly change their shirts and become ardent Turkists, and among them there will be many purebred Lezgins, Tats and Talyshs. In the same Turkey, among the ardent nationalists there were many Kurds and others.

                        I will definitely not be among them, I am generally a distant person from stadism! There are such people now, he is a mankurt in any situation, the same Eldar Azizov is the new mayor of Baku. You know little about Turkey, the Turkish Constitution says "Every citizen associated with a Turkish country is a Turk" that is, the concept of Turks is equal to the meaning of a Russian. At least legislatively .Ataturk is Aliyev, the elder of the early 20th century, no more, exalted to the rank of the father of the nation. And Az-an for him was an object of bargaining with the Russians. It's just that Ottoman is a tragedy of the Turks, he did not convey the sound of Turkic words at all. This is the main reason for the change in grammar, and Ataturk's companions in Anadolu were the Kurds. With the advent of the normal ruler REALIST, the hysteria of Turkism will pass. Religious of Turkey is a special kind of sub-ethnos that the Osmanli see from the prism of Turkism. , but in reality it was not so. They understand that Islam was what created statehood but did not preserve it. Turkey is divided into several camps, pragmatists who do not hesitate to voice pragmatism, who are not afraid to say we roamed the courts and mixed with the local peoples (exclusively intelligentsia ) Who understand all the stupidity of religious ideology that did not save the empire. Second religious fanatics and religious Ottoman. Only in Turkey can you find a believing Muslim nationalist, which is absurd. Turkey has huge gaps in education. For the Turks, an Armenian, a Kurd, or a Greek is their own, despite the fact that they sing in the internet. That is, my brother is Azerbaijani to meet you with outstretched hands, Azeri Turks, etc., will not be there. My cousin will study there during his fight in Bursa with two Armenians, the Turks took up arms against him, although the Armenians were the ringleader. He spoke in az-ski on the phone from Baku. It is not surprising that the Kurd will take az-ts for his own, dialect, etc. are the same. It is customary for us to sublimate them , and they look evenly. Cousin's friends are Kurds, Turks, Lazes, Circassians and don't care much there. As for Azerbaijan, there is no euphoria, especially in academic circles, thanks to my cousin I got acquainted with one program. When they talk about Turkism, it is usually Kazakhstan, Middle Asia and they argue with pragmatism, realistically. And when Jalal Shengor said on the air, why do we have no Ottoman-Armenian specialists? "Why can't I find a translator of Armenian sources that describe in detail the geology of our common homeland" Then he continued to preserve the languages ​​of our homeland, Greek, Armenian, etc. My surprise knew no bounds. By the way, a very smart person, the walking library talked about everything Mongolia , Gok-Turkism, Kazakhstan, Tajikistan but not about Azerbaijan.
                      5. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 23 November 2018 23: 15
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        You do not know much about Turkey, the Turkish Constitution says "Every citizen associated with a Turkish country is a Turk" that is, the concept of Turks is equal to the meaning of a Russian

                        I know that very well.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Ataturk is Aliyev the elder of the beginning of the 20th century no more, exalted to the rank of father of the nation

                        you’ll belittle Ataturk too much by putting him on a level with Aliyev. Ataturk is a fighter who fought and rose on the battlefield. The country was not shrunk by 20% like Azerbaijan now, but much more and he was standing at the front, not sitting in greenhouse conditions, with blood and then returned the land. He set a clear task, ideology, pulled out of obscurantism, and a little bent, but he created the Turkish nation from that ashes. Azerbaijan and Aliyev did not get close to what Turkey and Ataturk passed through.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Only in Turkey can one meet a believing Muslim nationalist, which is absurd.

                        You are mistaken. I met them outside Turkey.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        For the Turks that the Armenian that the Kurdish that the Greek is their own, despite the fact that they sing on the Internet. That is, my brother is Azerbaijani, Azeri Turks, etc. my brother will study you with his arms outstretched. My cousin will learn there when he fights in Bursa with two Armenians, the Turks ganged up on him, although the Armenians were the ringleader

                        You have too harsh conclusions about Turkey and one-sided. Turkey is very, very different.
                        Your cousin fought and did not stand up for him, but they stood up for my relative. The Armenians protested against the flag of Azerbaijan on the balcony, so the local Turkish nationalists came and hung a huge Azerbaijani flag from above over the Armenian balcony.
                        In Turkey, when I participated in some of the fights, a crowd of Kurds was afraid to climb up to us, since the local Turks would have spread them.
                        Yes, I heard about the story of Ala, as with your cousin, there is such a thing, but there is something else as well. As with the Azerbaijanis, who would be drowned for an Armenian classmate or neighbor in the event of a confrontation with the Turk, and there have been such cases in Russia.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        With regard to Azerbaijan, there is no euphoria, especially in academic circles,

                        in academics, perhaps I myself do not have euphoria, but ordinary people have euphoria and are very much largely unjustified about Turkism in Azerbaijan.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Then he continued to need to preserve the languages ​​of our homeland Greek, Armenian, etc.

                        He’s a cunning type. He’s such a character who perfectly misleads the national minorities and helps them to assimilate. Such people are very dangerous for the national minorities. Since the Nationalist comes out rudely, the truth will be cut down, and this one will present everything that the national minority will be ashamed of speak your own language and discord.
                        And the fact that he did not say about Azerbaijan 80 million Turkey is not one Jalal consists.


                        artfully powdering brains about unity))))
                      6. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 00: 15
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                        Quote: Yeraz
                        artfully powdering brains about unity))))

                        I don’t understand where he is powdering? In principle, he correctly said. He is not a destroyer, I am also not a fan of clichés brotherhood of peoples, etc. This is nonsense, each one’s own swamp is nicer. This concept did not take place on the example of the USSR. By the way, Turkey stands on such what is the use of the mullahs and on every corner of the Türks screaming? No sense, take any other people, the same can be said for this class. And these people build the future of Turkey to listen to it is a pleasure. A religious man reads one book a thousand times, and he read thousands books a couple of times. I used to underestimate the role of the intelligentsia in the life of one or another people. In Turkey, democracy on TV can say something that you can’t say in Russia, for example. In Az, this is not at all unthinkable, we would at least get to the level of democracy. This person creates libraries at universities by crowdfunding. While the state contains useless Ilahietchi faculties at those universities. Why? So that thousands of dudes will cram one million books for the millionth time and am I bothering a 7th-century book? Or dozens of other useless books that teach how to understand the very same? He suggests that in Turkey, let's increase funding and universities will do research. Do not need millions with higher education, quality is important, not quantity. Foreign specialists are graduated every year. Why is the president vice president’s wife anyway))) To work as an operator in Baksel? such. So in many ways I agree with him.
                        Our country needs such people, stamping ali techsilli fehle makes no sense while the English welders are in Sokar. The times when I can’t give out my daughter for you are red. Especially considering that everything is bought. I never understood people who buy a crust, studying for a fee without knowing anything.
                      7. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 24 November 2018 00: 49
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        In our country, we need such people, stamping Ali Techsilli Fehle does not make sense while the English welders in Sokar

                        so the paradox is that our state is not invested in religion, but the result is complete G.
                        But I don’t agree about religion. This is a throw from one extreme to another. A spiritual component is needed, but under strict control and not for show. And this is the strength of Turkey, the democratic choice, you can be a nationalist, you can be an Islamist, you can have Transvestite Diva in the country You can be an atheist.
                        With the help of Islam, Turkey, lacking the numerical superiority of the Turkic population, kept the huge masses of the people for so long and digested, and now it is also relevant.
                        And Islamists and Nationalists will demolish power in Azerbaijan. A super-educated class will prefer either to fall down or sit quietly because the book of the 7th century, as you put it, is more powerful in motivating and hard to stop people who believe in the worthlessness of this world and its temporality. And the same thing nationalists who are sure that this is his nation above and that he carries the idea. And the most difficult category of people for whom there is no opposition other than complete physical destruction.
                        1% will carry 99%.

                        And about the crust .... window dressing unnecessary and stupid.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        I never understood people who buy a crust, learning to pay while not knowing anything.
                      8. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 00: 44
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                        Quote: Yeraz
                        artfully powdering brains about unity))))


                        Listen to him here, I don’t know more well-read in Turkey. If you know I will listen with pleasure
                      9. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 24 November 2018 00: 56
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Listen to him here, I don’t know more well-read in Turkey. If you know I will listen with pleasure

                        Murat Bardakchy sitting next to him has a clearer picture of the Azerbaijani Türks than the rest.
                        Then I will look through the program.
                        And so in the list of books Jalal Schonder I was interested in Bir toplum nasıl intihar eder? Read this book ??
                      10. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 01: 27
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                        Quote: Yeraz
                        Bir toplum nasıl intihar eder? Read this book ??

                        No, but I’ll try to read it, I met him recently, but I understand what I’m talking about. Bardakchy Ottomanist who is a supporter of the return of the Arabic-Ottoman alphabet. But I won’t take a strict judge; he doesn’t annoy me.
                        Quote: Yeraz
                        A super-educated class will prefer to either dump or sit quietly.

                        Again, the dilemma is evolution or revolution. I am not opposed to the modern government being dared, but at least fighting transvestites. This power is leading Az-an into the abyss, has already led. But then it is not necessary to enter another from one extreme to another. First, the peoples of Az-na need grow mentally, not only to the Turks, but to the same Talysh, Lezgins. What they are doing now is a tragicomedy, unlike Turkey, we have a plus. We cohabit especially without critical problems. I can't imagine a program in Az-not where they would talk about the Turkic-Mongoloid race who wandered from Siberia to Altai from there to the Caucasus, providing Anadol with Chinese sources. screaming while going to create or destroy something "In the name of Jesus" "Allahu Akbar" "I am a Turk" "I am a Papuan." They will hammer what they will scream, this is a mass of biomass. about at least 20% normal neutral logic, they will create without slogans but consciously. "For communism" and where is this communism? for the caliphate and where is this caliphate? There are people with dissonant national psychology, they cannot self-identify. There are millions of such people in Az, and among the Lezghins. From one I ask you who? Az-chanly answers. Oh nedi? aton lezgi anon lezgi neche olur? I ask. Eeee meenim bele khoshuma gelir, men sadvalist daym. I laughed and answered ay kishi sen byugun ozyuvu az-chanly elan edirsen, sabah ermenin gabagynda ermeni olassan, azerbaijanlylara kurklere senin neyil türk lazy -chanlysan, not a Turkic not lezgi, itmish insansan. That is, the mass of what you implement, so it will be, and if you tell them to put them on the shelves. He will understand that these extremes are not so important. You need to grow free literate people. And not the masses who dance to tune of the time. Turkey has a culture of communication between different-minded people, which is not present in Azerbaijan. But they know how to listen to oppose, this is the most important asset of Turkey. They have at least the majority of biomass, but it is a bright ray.
                      11. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 24 November 2018 01: 38
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        I can’t imagine in Az-not a program where they would talk about the Turkic-Mongoloid race that wandered from Siberia to Altai from there to the Caucasus, providing Anadola up to Chinese sources. Imagine this with us?

                        this means how weak we are as a nation.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        Again, Ali is not a literate person, it's all the same to screaming while going to create or destroy something "In the name of Jesus" "Allahu Akbar" "I am a Turk" "I am a Papuan". What they hammered into, they will scream, this is a mass of biomass

                        Yes, but they will be led by literate ones, but not the intelligentsia you are talking about.
                        For example, today in Ahly Beit they gave me the nickname REVOLUTIONARY. I only go for a couple of months, but Molla and many others know me by name, others walk for several years and even who they don’t know. I’m not just listening, I ask questions, I I’m digging out, I’m asking provocative questions. And most of you know with cacophilosophy sitting there, which turned out as a result of my digging. We are not well educated in the field of religion to raise such questions. And of course these people will not be able to bring. There is 1% of people like me, who clearly understand what religion is in a very broad sense both in its use and in nationalism, and who will lead these, since they are superficially related to the case from the series NOW FASHIONABLE, This is how the HABIT or Supervision of elders is instituted.
                        Now I watch the video it says very interestingly. In fact, it says that we are anthropologically different and even linguistically somewhere. That is, because we are not narrow-eyed, it does not make us TURKEY. We remain Türks
                      12. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 01: 53
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                        Critical thinking is important. As I understand it, a supporter of political Islam. From 50 minutes Jelal speaks ingenious phrases from Ataturk’s lips. That’s the difference between a patriot and a cheer patriot. A patriot looks at the future and a cheer patriot is fixated on the past. As you noticed, they talk about Turkism without fanaticism from a historical point of view. It's easy to watch high.
                      13. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 24 November 2018 02: 01
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        You, as I understand it, a supporter of political Islam

                        rather, what did religion and nationalism surprise you in one bottle. Alya Russian eagle with a scepter and a rod. It’s very difficult to understand and even harder to explain, but I look at the result and think the causes and effects. There were many Turks, but those who survived and were independent converted to Islam, and shamanists and Christians are on the verge of extinction and there is no state in. Berem nationalism is not caveman, but realistically assessed and not afraid to talk about its minuses, as Turkey turns out in this program and see the cave nationalists for development below, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan with books of their leaders that everything in this world happened from the Türks, ala is the Armenian version.
                        I am a supporter of everything to the best of Yin-Yang. Nothing exists autonomously and you need to maximize the good sides and minimize the negative. Eliminate will not work, you can play on the balance sheet.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        As you noticed, they talk about Turkism without fanaticism from a historical point of view. It’s easy to watch.

                        Really high. I look at one breath. 40 minutes.
                      14. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 02: 13
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                        Quote: Yeraz
                        Really high. I look at one breath. 40 minutes.

                        All the programs with him are excellent, but the tandem with Ilber Ortayly is generally an informational orgasm. When he tells his eyes glow with a person, he doesn’t have books in his personal library. He bought several apartments for his books))) I also collect a library, for me an example.
                      15. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 24 November 2018 02: 18
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        All programs are excellent with him, but the tandem with Ilber Ortayly is generally an informational orgasm.

                        Ortails in general such from the series of people Özgüven 100 !!!
                        And the manner and presentation of Jalal is indescribable.
                        By the way, they said there about Turkism of Azerbaijan in Iran.
                        Quote: Lek3338
                        He bought several apartments for his books))) I also collect a library, an example for me.

                        Well, if finance allows, why not.
                      16. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 02: 22
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                        Quote: Yeraz
                        Well, if finance allows, why not.

                        He is very rich, my finances do not allow me. But I think that to collect something for old age.
                        The tandem Dzhelal and Ilber there, and the noble humor, funny old men. They are friends, but in terms of their reading, they did not meet the equal Dzhelal.
                      17. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 24 November 2018 02: 27
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        They are friends, but in terms of their reading, they did not meet Jellal equal.

                        felt.
                        Siz politika yapmayın, tarih yapın, bilim yapın. Very clearly stated.
                      18. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 02: 27
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                        "Her efsanede bir gercek payi var" This is a masterpiece phrase, I have always said it. The people will remain in national memory if they keep their epics, myths, fairy tales. That is what children need to read their fairy tales at night, not a red cap.
                      19. Yeraz
                        Yeraz 24 November 2018 02: 32
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                        Quote: Lek3338
                        The people will be preserved by national memory if they retain epics, myths, fairy tales

                        Ağzın bal yesin.
                        By the way, not quite in the subject, but look.

                        from the second minute.
                      20. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 24 November 2018 02: 47
                        +1
                        Great parable, the truth of life .Sapı bizdən olanlar misali.
            2. Yeraz
              Yeraz 15 November 2018 19: 49
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              Quote: Logall
              But he remained in the end for the Cossacks!

              what does it mean left ?? as we see it didn’t remain. They conquered it as 200 years old. The Russian population of 1897 was 7% and the maximum was 1939, then only the decline with little adjustment and now we have about 3% of the population, which will disappear by assimilation and migration.
              Therefore, I can still understand the claims about some of the fortresses that were created by the Russians and turned into cities, but Derbent is definitely not on this list.
    2. Faceless
      Faceless 15 November 2018 09: 19
      +6
      News on the page, but you can find 2 actual errors.

      For reference: the usual consideration of requests by the Constitutional Court of Russia takes at least three months from the date of filing.


      The decision on accepting an appeal for consideration is taken by the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation at a meeting NOT LATER THREE MONTHS from the moment of registration of the appeal (part 1 of article 41 of the Federal Constitutional Law No. 21.07.1994-FKZ of 1 "On the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation"); The decision on the appointment of cases for hearing at a session of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation shall be adopted by the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation no later than one month after the acceptance of applications for consideration (Article 47, ibid.). And this despite the fact that the case can be resolved without a hearing (article 47.1 ibid.).

      In this regard, the question arises: if the Constitutional Court of Russia recognizes the decision of the Constitutional Court of Ingushetia as unlawful ...


      The Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation does not have the authority to declare illegal the decisions of the Constitutional (charter) courts of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation (as well as any other courts) (Article 3 of the FKZ "On the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation").

      The journalist who wrote the news so ignorantly has just two balls. Based on the foregoing, regarding the reliability of other calculations of this news - judge for yourself.
  2. Olegater
    Olegater 15 November 2018 08: 15
    +4
    Good morning!
    Tell me that there are few problems in Russia? Normal employment, yes in the same republics, is there a place with a normal salary? What to lack, the borders began to divide !! Engage in social programs each at home.
    And if someone is not happy with something in this redistribution? What a war between republics and hello!
    In general, this sensitive issue was not even worth touching!
    1. prapor55
      prapor55 15 November 2018 08: 41
      +3
      It was not worth touching, for Chechens with Ingushs do not really live like that. But to distract from the main problems, the reason is beautiful, the question is who invented it and at whose prompt?
      1. Olegater
        Olegater 15 November 2018 08: 43
        +1
        Exactly who started this is interesting to see!
        With the help of whom do they want to "blow up" the Caucasus and divert attention from social problems ??
        1. prapor55
          prapor55 15 November 2018 08: 47
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          Covert games, close to yourself. am
          1. Olegater
            Olegater 15 November 2018 08: 49
            +2
            Quite, and there are still fans to set fire to the regions with the wrong hands! Rather, with the help of all kinds of traitors in power.
            1. prapor55
              prapor55 15 November 2018 09: 11
              +2
              You understand me correctly, but I don’t see the patriots in the upper echelons of power from the word at all, the executive power should be busy with business, and we have solid successes at international summits. repeat
        2. snake
          snake 15 November 2018 10: 40
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          Quote: Olegater
          With the help of whom do they want to "blow up" the Caucasus and divert attention from social problems?

          The Caucasus will "explode" sooner or later. There are many prerequisites for this. Population growth is large, and there is little work. The desire to work is even less. All hot, all athletic. Everyone climbs ashore, everyone sharpens a dagger. "Who is not with us - the one under us - forward the Mohicans."
    2. kasatky
      kasatky 15 November 2018 08: 55
      +3
      Heat up the situation. I think this process is quite controlled. Contrasting one force with another is the main way to control the masses.
  3. Loess
    Loess 15 November 2018 08: 53
    +2
    I would have generally abolished republics, regions, autonomy ... In the sense, I would rename them all to regions with names derived from local capitals, and after about eleven years from the problem only vague memories would remain. But for this, central authority must be much stronger and tougher.
    1. user
      user 15 November 2018 10: 00
      +2
      I would generally abolish the republic, region, autonomy ...


      I completely agree with you, it’s time to remove this mine laid under our statehood and switch to the administrative-economic division with the abolition of the division according to the national principle. This will only strengthen Russia.
      1. Vinnibuh
        Vinnibuh 15 November 2018 10: 46
        +2
        I’m stupid MB, but I can’t understand dosihpor: the president of Tatarstan, the president of Bashkiria, etc., in each area of ​​the ministers like dogs. Nakoy so many presidents and ministers in one country?
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 15 November 2018 12: 51
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      I would have generally abolished republics, regions, autonomy ... In the sense, I would rename them all to regions with names derived from local capitals, and after about eleven years from the problem only vague memories would remain.

      In the United States, Texas is not organized on a national basis, and is nonetheless determined to secede. So salvation is not that. There will always be people who are ready to separate, join for any reason. Here the task is to block the oxygen inside the country to such villains and financing from outside.
      If the USSR or Russia sponsored Texas patriots, there would have been a war there for a long time, but so far only internal indignation.
      1. Loess
        Loess 15 November 2018 13: 00
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        Quote: glory1974
        There will always be people who are ready to separate, join for any reason.
        Absolutely correct remark. But it is possible to make such people become much smaller over time. And to do without mass repressions and executions. And in general, it is more logical when the state has a single administrative division of regions.
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 15 November 2018 20: 00
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      Quote: Less
      I would have generally abolished republics, regions, autonomy ... In the sense, I would rename them all to regions with names derived from local capitals, and after about eleven years from the problem only vague memories would remain. But for this, central authority must be much stronger and tougher.

      it won’t help. There is Turkey, everything there as you want there are no republics, etc. flags and local presidents with parliaments and their own constitutional courts, and unlike the Russian Federation and the country, the regions and regions are closer to the capital and the whole. But it’s like- that affected the Kurdish issue ?? No.
      Nothing will happen from the fact that in the land that Chechnya is conventionally named and with a change of name or its entry into another region will cease to be different. Anyway, Chechens live in that drawn line, their children are born, their numbers increase and they take over living space, the name or lines on paper, the natural process will not change WITHOUT HUMAN RESOURCE and the economic component.
      Over the years in the beginning of the 90s there was a very tough regime of the Turkish authorities, no pissing, like with the Kurds now, and here’s a video like 1 Turkish police patrol could disperse hundreds of people, this somehow reduced the Kurdish problem ??? No, since without being there The Türkic population is less and less effective, therefore Erdogan took the method of Islamization, and here is a weak spot.
  4. Mr Credo
    Mr Credo 15 November 2018 09: 23
    -2
    Interesting! This question has just surfaced? Before that, he was not standing or ignored? Or is it such a delicate work to eliminate national borders and divide Russia into 14 regions? Is Putin's dream of eliminating national divisions that he calls a bomb?
  5. depressant
    depressant 15 November 2018 10: 00
    +2
    The more sanctions there are outside, the more active the stirring of the "proud people" inside. Apparently, "pride" has a good nose for the grandmother.
  6. Fkjydjckfrgh
    Fkjydjckfrgh 15 November 2018 11: 30
    0
    and border guards around Chechnya .. in three rings
  7. Karenas
    Karenas 11 December 2018 01: 16
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    Lek, Yeraz,
    I read your dialogue with interest, I wanted to add from myself at the same time, but something prevented ...
    According to Derbent ... Our sources indicate that the highlanders' raids through the Derbent Gorge were from ancient times ... They write that when Rome agreed with Persia on the partition of Armenia, then even the three of us teamed up with you ...

    ... The Armenian army was sent by the Persians to protect the northern borders of their empire ... When the Persians too turned the oppression of the Armenian part of the empire, our soldiers exposed the gorge, and the mountaineers quickly straightened the brains of the Imperials :)

    Grief came to our region in the 622nd, when the Greeks in the war against the Persians took to their aid the narrow-eyed Khazars who slaughtered Caucasian Albania ...

    We should also especially point out the acts of Timur ... Little is said about how he ordered the civilians to be killed and he set up a crossing across the river for his troops ... He settled the Turks later on ...
    _________________
    As for the Zionist leadership of the Dashnaks in the 1918th.
    I want to say firmly - it was because of their intervention that the Bolsheviks did not slaughter the Turkic population of Baku !!! Unfortunately...