Israel pulls Merkava tanks to Gaza borders

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Disturbing news they continue to come from the Middle East, where the Palestinian-Israeli conflict flares up with new force. It became known that the Israeli military command ordered the transfer of additional armored vehicles to the borders of the Gaza Strip.

Israel pulls Merkava tanks to Gaza borders




Recall that on the eve of the Israeli special forces, being on the territory of Gaza, entered into a firefight with the military wing of Hamas. Eight people were killed on the Palestinian side, one was killed by Israel (a lieutenant colonel, a group commander), another was wounded.

At the border of the sector are several dozen tanks Merkava. The fact that they participate in shelling of Palestinian territories is not reported. In Gaza, they said that IDF armored vehicles were built around the perimeter of the border with Israel. At the same time, the Palestinian authorities do not exclude the possibility that Israel could begin a full-scale ground operation in the sector.

Against this background, in Israel itself, some experts are very skeptical about the idea of ​​the head of the Ministry of Defense of the country, Avigdor Lieberman, about the start of the military operation "on the ground." The following argument is cited as the main argument: recently, the main military department has allowed itself quite a few militant attacks on neighboring countries, including Lebanon. So, it was stated that in this country Hezbollah is growing stronger, threatening Israel. Experts say that if Israel gets bogged down in Gaza, and this is possible, then Iran can take advantage of the situation to “set fire to the borders of Israel” by the same Lebanon.

However, the Israeli Ministry of Defense, the head of which held a series of meetings with representatives of other security forces and heads of intelligence unions on the eve, is not yet ready to take at least some step towards de-escalation.

In the meantime, the IDF press service confirmed the fact that the Israeli aviation hit the Al-Amal Hotel in Gaza. It is stated that it was in this hotel that the Hamas military intelligence headquarters was located. Israel claims that the interior of Al-Amal was allegedly deliberately "disguised as hotel rooms." There are no data on the number of casualties as a result of an IDF strike against a hotel in the Rimal district in the West of Gaza. Beat Video:

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  1. +10
    13 November 2018 09: 05
    They are in vain, Hamas has RPG-7
    1. +21
      13 November 2018 09: 12
      Let it go! This is their eternal internal confrontation - but away from Syria and our military!
      1. +18
        13 November 2018 09: 18
        Zhenya, salute! hi
        And all this against the background of recent information that Israel and Palestine, through the mediation of Egypt, are ready to negotiate. And then - bam: Israeli specialists climbed into Gaza and there they were "escorted". As a result, there is escalation and there can be no talk of negotiations. So who needs peace on the BV in general and on both banks of the Jordan in particular ??? wink
        1. +9
          13 November 2018 09: 20
          Hi Pash! hi I think that now, our Israeli friends here will explain to us - what is the essence of what is happening!
          1. +9
            13 November 2018 09: 27
            Quote: Finches
            our Israeli friends will explain - what is the essence of what is happening!

            As usual - "we are only defending ourselves"?
            1. +5
              13 November 2018 09: 43
              As usual - "we are only defending ourselves"?

              "The State of Israel has interests in this part of the region." laughing
              1. +4
                13 November 2018 10: 16
                Putin avoids negotiations with Netanyahu - Israeli tanks pulled into the Gaza Strip.
                1. +3
                  13 November 2018 12: 47
                  Inscription on a T-shirt in Israel: "The smaller they are, the harder it is to hit"


                  Israel claims that the interior of Al-Amal was allegedly deliberately "disguised as hotel rooms."

                  And terrorists deliberately disguise themselves as children and unarmed civilians. But Israel can't be fooled

                  1. -1
                    13 November 2018 13: 17
                    Read about Muhammad a-Dur and the thing called Pallivde. Find a lot of amusing.
                    1. +3
                      13 November 2018 13: 24
                      Palllywood is a pro-Israel organization that turns the facts around in ways that are beneficial to Israel. The consonance of the name "Hollywood", which has become a symbol of special effects, is symbolic.
                      Even this case in the photo, where bystanders are killed in a shootout between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops invading the Gaza Strip, was turned out. Like, "they killed themselves, and Israel collected flowers there."
                      1. +3
                        13 November 2018 13: 41
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        Palllywood is a pro-Israel organization that turns the facts around in ways that are beneficial to Israel. The consonance of the name "Hollywood", which has become a symbol of special effects, is symbolic.
                        Even this case in the photo, where bystanders are killed in a shootout between the Palestinians and the Israeli troops invading the Gaza Strip, was turned out. Like, "they killed themselves, and Israel collected flowers there."


                        Well, we understand that no matter what I say and whatever facts are presented, you will persistently beat your chest, and say that Israel and the Jews are representatives of hell on Earth, you are a fighter with hell, and the terrorists from Hamas are angels . Do you understand? We understand. On it we will disperse. Hugs.
                      2. +3
                        13 November 2018 19: 08
                        it is) the representatives of hell and those and others, Hamas are the same representatives, on the salary of the Mossad, the entire top of Hamas is sitting. so cuddles and let go) eternal sacrifice in your gaza there
          2. +2
            13 November 2018 11: 36
            I will try to answer. PA Gas has frozen all accounts and is not paying money. Israel, at the request of the PA, also does not pay them. Qatar pays them a lot for the war. And what else remains for them? They do grandmas on this! Well, some people allocate money to Israel for defense. So this war is for you, for the civilian population of Israel and Gaza. And for everyone else only gesheft !!!
        2. +1
          13 November 2018 14: 04
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          So who needs peace in the BV in general and on both banks of the Jordan in particular ???

          pasha hi
          The concept of controlled chaos did not appear yesterday. And it is controlled chaos that Washington needs. Another question is that chaos can be controlled only until a certain moment.
          1. +2
            14 November 2018 09: 21
            Andrei hi
            Quote: NEXUS
            chaos can only be controlled up to a point

            The mattresses believed that they were exceptional and would not lose control. Therefore, they will continue in the same spirit until this chaos covers them themselves.
        3. +3
          13 November 2018 19: 30
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          So who needs peace in the BV in general and on both banks of the Jordan in particular ???

          The fact that in the near future Israel will be pulled into active databases was obvious after the United States recognized them as the capital of Jerusalem. The Daesh project is clearly failing, but the war is needed, so they began to heat the situation from another side.
          1. +3
            14 November 2018 09: 23
            Quote: Dart2027
            The Daesh project is clearly failing, but war is needed

            The United States generally needs peace only on its own territory and near borders. negative
    2. SOF
      +5
      13 November 2018 09: 48
      Quote: Tank jacket
      They are in vain, Hamas has RPG-7

      ... "this music will last forever" (C) .... if states change batteries on time .... winked
      .... RPG ...? .... and they say they have a "Trophy" ....
      .... and let's see what the god’s chariots really are ..... everyone has already been noted ... both the 90s, 72nd, and the American generals .... even feline, German breeding ... ........ now the turn for the Israeli cart ............
      1. -13
        13 November 2018 10: 03
        Quote: shamil
        Israel is never ready for negotiations and what should the Arabs do in this situation? They planted Jews on their land and should they creep?

        Support!
        In connection with the barbaric aggression of Israel, against the sovereign Gaza Strip, I propose.
        1. Create a petition addressed to the President of the Russian Federation, demanding military assistance to the Gaza Strip, in the form of supplies of modern defensive weapons.
        2.Start fundraising to provide material assistance to victims of Israeli aggression.
        3: Begin collecting humanitarian aid for those in need in the Gaza Strip.
        4. Place refugees from the Gaza Strip in Russia. Not indifferent people, respond to trouble, shelter the families of the homeless as a result of the barbaric attack of Israel.
        5. Introduce sanctions against Israel.
        6. Break diplomatic relations.
        7. To form a well-armed brigade of volunteers who want to help the brooding people of the Gaza Strip.
        1. SOF
          +23
          13 November 2018 10: 13
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          In connection with the barbaric aggression of Israel, against the sovereign Gaza Strip, I propose.

          .... but isn’t it easier for you to call an ambulance from Kashchenko ....? laughing
          1. +7
            13 November 2018 10: 14
            Quote: SOF
            .... but isn’t it easier for you to call an ambulance from Kashchenko ....?

            Yes, you shouldn’t let me go in an hour or two laughing
            1. +4
              13 November 2018 11: 13
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes, it’s not worth it, in an hour or two I’m vacationtit


              And at first I read how - VACATIONTYAT!!! wassat
              Hello to Internet workers hi
              1. 0
                13 November 2018 11: 14
                Quote: Arberes
                Hello to Internet workers

                Hi Arberes. Come join the battle with Israel
                1. +3
                  13 November 2018 11: 20
                  Yes, I already have all the spears broken. Everything that I think about this I have already expressed and a couple of times even in poetic form.
                  1. +1
                    13 November 2018 11: 22
                    Quote: Arberes
                    Everything that I think about this I have already expressed and a couple of times even in poetic form.

                    Will you pull the poem Hamas and the Jews?
                    1. +1
                      13 November 2018 11: 25
                      Will you send the hunks? laughing Then pile.
                      1. +2
                        13 November 2018 11: 26
                        Quote: Arberes

                        Will you send the hunks?

                        Maybe a tour of the historic sites of the Gaza Strip?
                      2. -1
                        13 November 2018 11: 35
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Maybe a tour of the historic sites of the Gaza Strip?


                        Well, if with you as a guide and with AKM at the ready, then ...
                        Do you want me to have fresh impressions for a future poem?
        2. -1
          13 November 2018 10: 14
          Shhhh ... What if the government read and accepted as a guide to action.
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          1. +2
            13 November 2018 11: 16
            Quote: Yarr
            take them all back to you please

            This place is occupied by locals. Will have to settle in twin apartments
        5. -5
          13 November 2018 11: 18
          Start collecting humanitarian aid for those in need in the Gaza Strip.

          Provide assistance for those in need in the Ukraine Sector.
          There are the same Banderlog thugs. Israel is still the only country that fully understands who it is dealing with and is acting adequately. All the rest are in the pink sweet clouds of the "concerned world community." Look at their dismemberment of the last Turkish Saudi journalist - poor Gongadze is "resting", but the handwriting is basically the same.
          1. +6
            13 November 2018 11: 21
            Quote: Katiusha
            Provide assistance for those in need in the Ukraine Sector.

            I'm sorry lads, but the gas is dumb wassat
            Quote: Katiusha
            Look at their dismemberment of the last Turkish-Saudi journalist

            What to watch, dismembered, fried, eaten. What is the problem?
            1. +2
              13 November 2018 12: 02
              I'm sorry lads, but the gas was mute wassat

              laughing
              What to watch, dismembered, fried, eaten. What is the problem?

              otozh request
          2. +6
            13 November 2018 11: 50
            Quote: Katiusha
            Provide assistance for those in need in the Ukraine Sector.


            Help is provided to those who resist. When you begin to undermine banderlog, then help will go. Yes
            1. 0
              13 November 2018 12: 05
              Quote: Arberes
              Quote: Katiusha
              Provide assistance for those in need in the Ukraine Sector.

              Help is provided to those who resist. When you begin to undermine banderlog, then help will go. Yes

              We are already undermining. I'm in Israel. But here, too, the "world Masonic community" is for Banderlog.
              1. +2
                13 November 2018 12: 10
                An interesting way to fight !? You destroy Bandera by the power of thought at such a distance? Nikola Tesla is not your accidental ally?
                1. 0
                  14 November 2018 10: 01
                  Quote: Arberes
                  An interesting way to fight !? You destroy Bandera by the power of thought at such a distance? Nikola Tesla is not your accidental ally?

                  Nikola Tesla is a Serb, I respect the Serbs, they are allies of the Russians. Including the strength of the inventive gift. And the Bandera-Banderlog-Arabs are terrorists who destroy women, children, the elderly, mainly from their "caches". "Building" deserts, hating statehood and civilization. Their ideal is a free walk-field.
                  Well, in thought, there is also power. Suddenly. what
        6. +2
          13 November 2018 13: 59
          7. To form a well-armed brigade of volunteers who want to help the brooding people of the Gaza Strip.

          From couch fighters IN
    3. -1
      13 November 2018 10: 27
      I remembered the joke:
      If you decide to test your RPG-7 on the Merkava, know Allah will not help. There is a KAZ and the armor is good. I think it won't take so much downtime, only a coordinated volley of 3-5 "borders" from different projections. Again, Hamas has an overdof of fighters ready to part with their lives in exchange for an Israeli tank. Suicide bombers can be knocked out.
      1. +2
        13 November 2018 11: 29
        Quote: Romka47
        There And KAZ stands and the armor is good.


        They burned them in tandem until the Trophy was delivered.
        1. +1
          14 November 2018 09: 13
          And weakly, instead of a minus, throw off the reference as a border merkava burn. Tandem ammunition is used against DZ, and against KAZ, only RPGs with fake ammunition can be used, as far as I know, in the world now only the "HOOK" is capable of this.
    4. 0
      13 November 2018 12: 35
      Yes, besides RPG-7, you need to throw "VAMPIERS"))) But I think they are there too.)
    5. Maz
      0
      13 November 2018 16: 52
      Here the Israeli media published how Hamas smashed ATGM with a "Kornet", on a bus near the gates of a military base, they hit it famously. It's a pity we were in a hurry, we didn't see that there was an empty bus, the windows were darkened. If it was full, then one wounded would not get off. There was a video there in the morning. It looks like silt 20 is harvesting for itself and for 14 officers.
  2. +3
    13 November 2018 09: 06
    May then the chosen ones will declare. what did they just want silence, peace?
    Winners are not judged of course, they are only beaten before, and will they be winners in the end?
  3. -17
    13 November 2018 09: 07
    Gentlemen, are you bothered to pour from empty to empty? Or is it just to have a desire?
    1. +15
      13 November 2018 09: 12
      Well, do not do news on BV. And there will be nothing to discuss.
    2. +2
      13 November 2018 09: 15
      You are not an hour moderator?
      1. +3
        13 November 2018 09: 27
        Aren't you an agent provocateur for an hour?
        1. +1
          13 November 2018 09: 30
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Aren't you an agent provocateur for an hour?

          It was not written to you. Long puffed up with the answer then?
    3. +9
      13 November 2018 09: 16
      They gave you land in the 40s of the last century, but everything is not enough for you, life hangs on a thread, and you think about profit.
    4. -3
      13 November 2018 10: 05
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Gentlemen, are you tired of overflowing from empty to empty?

      Allah Akbar! We will not tolerate interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state Gaza Strip. We demand an end to aggression and the liberation of the occupied lands. You must also free all Arabs from your prisons and pay compensation to every dead and injured person. Every innocent prisoner
    5. 0
      13 November 2018 10: 18
      Quote: Aron Zaavi

      Gentlemen, are you tired of overflowing from empty to empty?

      Hamas will win! In a maximum of a month, the flag of the Prophet Muhammad will develop over each city of the former Israel. Allah Akbar!
      1. +1
        13 November 2018 11: 00
        Hollow Breast.
      2. -3
        13 November 2018 11: 15
        In principle, if your words are replaced by the type Hamas = Donbass, Muhamed = (Zakharchenko, Givi, Motorola not long ago) Allah Akbar on Amen, then you will get comments for which on this site until recently, frantically pluses.
        1. -2
          13 November 2018 11: 25
          Quote: pru-pavel
          then you get comments for which on this site until recently, fiercely pluses.

          Gaza is our Stalingrad. Our Hamas brothers will not give up a piece of land. The tzahal will be defeated, the victory will be ours!
          1. 0
            13 November 2018 22: 24
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Gaza is our Stalingrad. Our Hamas brothers will not give up a piece of land. The tzahal will be defeated, the victory will be ours!

            girl! to pour this citizen a lot!
    6. +1
      13 November 2018 10: 38
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Gentlemen, are you bothered to pour from empty to empty? Or is it just to have a desire?

      Well, when there is something to discuss, why not discuss?
    7. 0
      13 November 2018 11: 22
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Gentlemen, are you bothered to pour from empty to empty? Or is it just to have a desire?


      I agree! You starved us. Yes
    8. +5
      13 November 2018 11: 37
      Aron.
      Not for everyone here the address of the "Lord" warms the soul.
      More often the opposite.
      And about annoying.
      An informational occasion has been created, and by no means a fake.
    9. 0
      13 November 2018 12: 21
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      fuss about there is a desire?

      There is... laughing
    10. -3
      13 November 2018 13: 19
      Quote: Aron Zaavi

      Gentlemen, are you bothered to pour from empty to empty? Or is it just to have a desire?
      This is TopVar. 8) Of course, only to get the hell out of the empty water - there was never any other
    11. Maz
      +1
      13 November 2018 17: 01
      Aron, have you prepared a bomb shelter, as I recommended? Or are you hoping for Allah?
  4. +5
    13 November 2018 09: 07
    Something tells us that most likely this time the Jews will not enter Gaza, and if they enter, they will face more stiff resistance than it was the last time they invaded the enclave.
    1. +1
      14 November 2018 09: 18
      I would not have been so "optimistic" Israel and won at once the Coalition of Arab countries, which had more planes, and tanks and bayonets, and strategically the Jews were surrounded, but here Gaza, is there anything heavy there?
      1. 0
        14 November 2018 19: 24
        Quote: Romka47
        Israel defeated at once the Coalition of Arab countries, which had more aircraft, and tanks and bayonets

        Let's just say the quality of the Arabs was not very good. But the world is changing and the last war in Lebanon was not so easy.
  5. +4
    13 November 2018 09: 07
    Let them conduct a ground operation. Both sides get stuck. Why cry ...
  6. +5
    13 November 2018 09: 10
    That Jews do not sit on the fifth point exactly request
    1. +1
      13 November 2018 09: 53
      Quote: hto tama
      That Jews do not sit on the fifth point exactly request

      Come on. Arabs released 16+ hailstones in Israeli cities from 00:400 yesterday. A million people are sitting in bomb shelters. Why be nervous? They are children. Let them pamper.
      1. +8
        13 November 2018 10: 04
        Well, who started all this? Who declared Yerusalim the capital, who shot unarmed people? Are they poor people sitting in the bomb shelter that only the Palestinians are to blame, and the victims chosen are innocent again? crying
        1. -4
          13 November 2018 10: 06
          Quote: hto tama
          Well, who started all this? Who declared Yerusalim the capital, who shot unarmed people? Are they poor people sitting in the bomb shelter that only the Palestinians are to blame, and the victims chosen are innocent again? crying

          Do not wait. There will be no srach.
        2. +1
          13 November 2018 11: 01
          Another hollow.
      2. +14
        13 November 2018 10: 14
        The Israeli children quietly ran into someone else's territory, killed someone there, but screwed up when they left ... Aviation came to the rescue ... I bombed everything and everything to cover up the tracks. And now a million people are sitting in bomb shelters ... And who is to blame? Anyone, but not Israeli children.
  7. +6
    13 November 2018 09: 21
    Here are miracles ... Why do not the fighters against infidels from Daesh not help their suffering brothers in Palestine, who are essentially in there as in a ghetto with the violation of all rights of all kinds? Is this goal number 1 in the logic of things? Ahhh ... all infidels are apparently in Syria. Oh well...
    1. +3
      13 November 2018 10: 25
      Quote: saveall
      the suffering brothers in Palestine, who, in fact, find themselves there as in a ghetto with the violation of all rights of any kind possible?
      And other "miracles" fascinate me - the financing of this "ghetto", with apparently zero result in terms of "building the state."
      Moreover, the funding is not strictly fixed - it is almost impossible to find a clear information about funding for "Palestine, which is always fighting and eternally uncontrollably fed by donors".
      It all looks like a "military offshore". It is high time for Ukraine to adopt advanced technologies and self-financing - learn, little ones. This is how this "ghetto" lives. This is all gratuitous "help", only official, and there are also unofficial donors - almost the whole world, there are more tables at the link:
      Country Name: West Bank and Gaza
      Country Code: PSE
      Indicator Name: Net official development assistance and official aid received (current US $)
      1993: 178,740,000
      1994: 471,980,000
      1995: 514,110,000
      1996: 552,410,000
      1997: 613,030,000
      1998: 612,570,000
      1999: 580,550,000 2000: 684,500,000
      2001: 997,590,000
      2002: 971,610,000
      2003: 1,041,840,000
      2004: 1,160,840,000
      2005: 1,015,710,000
      2006: 1,360,250,000 2007: 1,717,110,000
      2008: 2,470,080,000
      2009: 2,826,680,000
      2010: 2,518,700,000
      2011: 2,441,970,000
      2012: 2,011,430,000
      2013: 2,610,410,000. "
      May 8, 2015 - World Bank
      Taken here: https://israelipalestinian.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000592
      1. +2
        13 November 2018 10: 57
        Quote: Katiusha
        And other "miracles" fascinate me - the financing of this "ghetto", with apparently zero result in terms of "building the state" ...

        Do you really believe that they will be given the opportunity to build their own state? Or not, not so ... Do you really believe that someone (not the Palestinians themselves, they would like to) want to build a state on the territory of Palestine? Or maybe you think that the Palestinians just resist Israel? You should better study first the history and beginning of this conflict. Well, now the Palestinians are practically driven into the ghetto and they either do not have any rights at all, or their rights are significantly limited. Israel is actively using a settlement policy to completely undermine the vitality and territorial unity of the Palestinian territories. Thanks to the state policy of comprehensive encouragement of settlers and settlement organizations, Israel, contrary to international law, unilaterally changed the universally recognized and centuries-old status of Jerusalem and extended its sovereignty and jurisdiction to the eastern Arab part of the city. Israel uses the tactics of slowly strangling the people living there, making their lives simply unbearable. In addition, they consider themselves entitled to invade the territory of the Arabs and arrest anyone they want, or simply kill anyone who seems suspicious to them ... And I'm not talking about constant air raids. And you, of course, are more interested in money, which only helps people die there not quickly, but somehow more slowly ... Well, so that the world community does not get excited at all. Well it’s clear ...
        Here are just a few fresh exploits of Israel.
        https://pikabu.ru/story/izrail_stiraet_v_poroshok_palestintsev_6104187
        1. +4
          13 November 2018 11: 07
          Or maybe you think that the Palestinians just resist Israel?
          And you may think that the Galicians are just resisting Russia? Is it just that they kill women, children, old people who want to remain Russian and not bow to Bandera scum? And Israel - yes, this is far from a sinless lamb. But he doesn’t wash himself with spits, like the Swedes, like the Germans in New Year’s Cologne, like the Russians in relation to the neo-Nazi state. They beat ahead of the curve. And Russia would be very suitable. With Crimea, it was beautiful, as with the Golan. The main thing is correct.
          1. +3
            13 November 2018 11: 25
            Moreover, now the Palestinians are practically driven into the ghetto and they either have no rights at all, or their rights are substantially limited.

            Local Arabs in Israel have much more rights than Russians in Ukraine - in transport and everywhere in institutions, all infa is written / sounds in Hebrew and Arabic (required). They have their representation in parliament. Those who want to live and work normally live and work normally. Peaceful Arabs have almost all construction in Israel, all landscaping, for example. The ghetto is for those who feed off the offshore of a perpetual Palestinian settlement. For they understand that as soon as they create their own state, they will have to take responsibility for themselves - then the end of the donor "lafa" and hello, IMF loans, which then need to be given back, in the sweat of their brow. Why would they? Do not plow the same as everyone else.
            1. +1
              13 November 2018 12: 16
              Quote: Katiusha
              Moreover, now the Palestinians are practically driven into the ghetto and they either have no rights at all, or their rights are substantially limited.

              Local Arabs in Israel have much more rights than Russians in Ukraine - in transport and everywhere in institutions, all infa is written / sounds in Hebrew and Arabic (required). They have their representation in parliament. Those who want to live and work normally live and work normally. Peaceful Arabs have almost all construction in Israel, all landscaping, for example. The ghetto is for those who feed off the offshore of a perpetual Palestinian settlement. For they understand that as soon as they create their own state, they will have to take responsibility for themselves - then the end of the donor "lafa" and hello, IMF loans, which then need to be given back, in the sweat of their brow. Why would they? Do not plow the same as everyone else.

              And where are these Russians in Ukraine who have less rights than the Arabs of the Palestinians? Donbas won’t tolerate this mess and resisted. And where are those Russians about whom you speak, who infringe on the rights in the rest of Ukraine? Maybe they are somehow fighting for their rights? I don’t even speak like Palestinians, at least something like that? No? Yes, they were in the forefront of the Maidan. Here is the answer.
          2. +4
            13 November 2018 12: 02
            Quote: Katiusha
            And Israel - yes, this is far from a sinless lamb. But he doesn’t wash himself with spits, like the Swedes, like the Germans in New Year’s Cologne, like the Russians in relation to the neo-Nazi state.

            Those. Do you think Israel is fighting the neo-Nazi state of Palestine or what? And so you justify their actions? What kind of porridge ...
      2. 0
        13 November 2018 11: 03
        Gaza is the most successful startup in Israel, a startup that sells death.
  8. +1
    13 November 2018 09: 33
    Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
    Quote: Tank jacket
    Aren't you an agent provocateur for an hour?

    It was not written to you. Long puffed up with the answer then?

    Then sorry, the arrow on me was
  9. +3
    13 November 2018 09: 35
    When, already, Egypt will have enough political will to take this aspen into its control. from this sector all neighbors were already fenced off like lepers. for me so until there is power in Egypt it will never end
    1. +2
      13 November 2018 10: 55
      so they don’t want to either. at camp David, Israel begged for Egypt to take gas to itself. they refused
  10. -3
    13 November 2018 09: 37

    So far, this concerns the units of the Iganat Yeshuvim and the Barsel.
    The main SMS will go to Yi Shi-Shabbat, if a decision is made.
    1. -1
      13 November 2018 10: 20
      Quote: Shahno
      The main SMS will go to Yi Shi-Shabbat, if a decision is made.

      You will suffer a shameful defeat, Hamas will march through the streets of Tel Aviv with a victorious march no later than the beginning of January 2019.
      1. -1
        13 November 2018 10: 32
        Jews die, but do not give up. Jerusalem is behind us. hi
        1. +1
          13 November 2018 10: 56
          Quote: Shahno
          Jews die, but do not give up. Jerusalem is behind us

          You are better off admitting defeat and honorably capitulating.
          1. +4
            13 November 2018 12: 21
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Shahno
            Jews die, but do not give up. Jerusalem is behind us

            You are better off admitting defeat and honorably capitulating.

            The call for surrender is now relevant in Ukrainian and Arabic to write.
            Speakers and thinkers in Russian will NEVER understand you. wink
      2. -3
        13 November 2018 10: 56
        Well. talk in February 2019 about rappers?
        1. +2
          13 November 2018 10: 57
          Quote: indy424

          Well. talk in February 2019 about rappers?

          I have nothing to talk about with the invaders of the Arab lands
          1. -3
            13 November 2018 11: 11
            Of course not about anything. but in February I’ll remind you. you are not a rapper
            1. +1
              13 November 2018 11: 18
              Quote: indy424
              . you are not a rapper

              I am for Hamas against Jewish terrorists. If Russia delivers T 90 and SU 35 to Hamas, then your soldiers will begin to surrender in thousands
              1. -4
                13 November 2018 11: 44
                USSR already what only Arabs did not deliver. all your supplies are now in warehouses and in museums in Israel. but in general what wonderful erotic dreams you have. You dream about how Russia free then distributes super-modern technology to Arabs. at the expense of your own pensions. Oh well
                1. +1
                  14 November 2018 09: 56
                  Well, you wrote the truth about how the USSR supplied tanks and planes to Arabs (very VERY GOOD), everyone on this site knows about it, and everyone is completely minus, and they will meam. I generally parallel who will win (excuse me) I personally look at the history of bet on Israel (without politics and emotions). And everyone understands, it turns out emotions above sound ratings
            2. +1
              13 November 2018 12: 06
              Quote: indy424
              Of course not about anything. but in February I’ll remind you. you are not a rapper


              Do not take to heart. He's always like that after a liter of whiskey.
            3. +2
              13 November 2018 13: 58
              Quote: indy424
              Of course not about anything. but in February I’ll remind you. you are not a rapper

              Dear, you did not recognize the sarcasm of Mr. Romanov. But to you, as a beginner, it is excusable! hi laughing
    2. SSR
      +1
      13 November 2018 10: 21
      Quote: Shahno

      So far, this concerns the units of the Iganat Yeshuvim and the Barsel.
      The main SMS will go to Yi Shi-Shabbat, if a decision is made.

      Not strong in the "varieties" of yeshuvim and barzels, but it seems to me that you have a struggle between two "clans" in the government and some of the military and politicians want to attract part of the readership and money to their side. request
      Imha.
      1. +1
        14 November 2018 07: 15
        Quote from S.S.R.
        but it seems to me that you have a struggle between two "clans" in the government, and some of the military and politicians want to attract part of the readership and money to their side.

        like a minimum of two.
        what to do was and will be. in principle, the pride itself ordered it, dialectics however
    3. +1
      13 November 2018 12: 37
      Quote: Shahno
      All sms they will go to Yi Shi-Shabbat if a decision is made.

      sms? Are you collecting money for war? belay
  11. -5
    13 November 2018 10: 23
    Palestinian terrorists will not calm down. It is necessary to hold a meeting at the UN on this topic and decide to send troops into the territory of Palestinian terrorists. Otherwise, they will continue their robbery.
    1. -3
      13 November 2018 10: 50
      Quote: Russkiy
      Palestinian terrorists

      These are not terrorists, but heroes! They valiantly fight the forces of Zionism and triumph after victory. Today, our Hamas brothers delivered a powerful blow to Israel, firing more than 400x hundred missiles, drowning Israel in a sea of ​​fire. Zionists on the verge of defeat.
      1. -4
        13 November 2018 10: 56
        Right! Israeli military is defeated. All Soviet people and all progressive humanity support the free Palestinian people in their struggle against the damned invaders!
        1. +2
          13 November 2018 10: 59
          Quote: Russkiy
          Israeli military is defeated. All Soviet people and all progressive humanity support the free Palestinian people in their struggle against the damned invaders!

          Well written +
          Support not in word, but in deed, the Palestinian people. Accept a large family from the bleeding Gaza Strip and Allah will reward you.
      2. -4
        13 November 2018 11: 00
        of course. Israel is already going to sea. apparently simultaneously with the collapsed dollar and the Rogozin lunar station
        1. +4
          13 November 2018 11: 01
          Quote: indy424

          of course. Israel is already going to sea. apparently simultaneously with the collapsed dollar and the Rogozin lunar station

          Do you feel sorry for the apartment for the needy brothers to give?
          1. -6
            13 November 2018 11: 45
            I'm sorry, but you give them your pensions
      3. 0
        13 November 2018 15: 16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        These are not terrorists, but heroes! They valiantly fight the forces of Zionism and triumph after victory. Today, our Hamas brothers delivered a powerful blow to Israel, firing more than 400x hundred missiles, drowning Israel in a sea of ​​fire. Zionists on the verge of defeat.

        Thick is very thick! You muddy dude a Christian, a Jew and a comedian in one bottle? Infernal mix. You still have to give your administrator atas.
        1. +3
          13 November 2018 15: 18
          Quote: Lek3338
          Muddy you dude

          Here, in general, it’s deep purple to me what you think there. I do not know you and I will not know. You are only NICK
          1. 0
            13 November 2018 15: 24
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Here, in general, it’s deep purple to me what you think there. I do not know you and I will not know. You are only NICK

            I am flattered))) by the fact that you decided to voice it. And you could bypass your attention and not tell NIK about it to me))) I do this, I do not answer stupidly, but you are an exception to the rule.
            Do not be angry, but you are an interesting specimen, I will follow your work purely for a hobby. I’m a little interested in psychology
            1. +3
              13 November 2018 16: 13
              Quote: Lek3338
              I do like this

              But not me
              Quote: Lek3338
              you are an exception to the rule

              I can’t be an exception to your rules. I don’t obey them, because you’re just NICK
              Quote: Lek3338
              , I will follow your work purely for a hobby

              You can even subscribe to the full collection of my comments.
              Quote: Lek3338
              . I’m interested in a little psychology

              Being interested in psychology, the main thing is not to rattle in a psychiatric hospital
        2. 0
          14 November 2018 15: 25
          Quote: Lek3338
          .You still need to give your administrator an atas admin.

          He used to be. laughing
      4. 0
        13 November 2018 21: 56
        If I were not familiar with the style of Mr. Romanov, I would have thought that the "quilted jacket" was resurrected. Almost the same turns of speech that he drowned for Iran laughing
        And by the way, if I’m not mistaken, then he already acted as a moderator / admin.
  12. +2
    13 November 2018 10: 33
    it’s a pity that peaceful people are dying, but if the Palestinians had an army and normal armament they would have tried to wipe Israel off the face of the earth for a long time, of course, they don’t have anything left to do as hard to stop it
    1. +1
      13 November 2018 10: 58
      "they would have long been Israel off the face of the earth" ////
      -----
      "It's ... hardly" - as comrade Sukhov used to say smile
      Egypt has almost 100 million people, and a large army with all modern weapons, and they don’t even try: their generals understand that they have zero chances.
      1. +1
        13 November 2018 13: 43
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "they would have long been Israel off the face of the earth" ////
        -----
        "It's ... hardly" - as comrade Sukhov used to say smile
        Egypt has almost 100 million people, and a large army with all modern weapons, and they don’t even try: their generals understand that they have zero chances.

        You will soon spend all of Israel, leave yourself a little bit .... laughing ...
      2. +4
        13 November 2018 21: 52
        Why is it to Egypt? Begin decided the question with him in 79. Remind me how? He made a peace treaty and returned Sinai to Egypt. Since then, the western border of Israel is quite calm. As well as the border with Jordan, an agreement with which Rabin concluded. It seems that these two prime ministers have clearly demonstrated how to make the border peaceful and ensure the security of Israel? They did not take Cairo or Amman, but provided Israel with peace on two borders. As Rabin thanked, we remember. He was stupidly killed and not the Arabs at all. If you would like, you could solve the problem with Syria in the same way. The return of heights is a powerful trump card for which one could get the necessary security and concessions. And you would have a calm border in the north. And there would be no Persians. But your government does not need the security of the country, as it will entail strong internal upheavals and changes within Israel. At a minimum, the role of the army in the state would be revised. And perhaps internal contradictions would aggravate. Therefore, the psychology of the besieged fortress is consciously nurtured in you, and therefore you keep Hamas at your side and constantly stick a stick at it when you need it for domestic political purposes. Your leaders deliberately allowed Hamas to take power in Gaza and also consciously protect it, pulling the udder at the right time and provoking him to action. Hamas is your personal cardboard villain that you could safely get rid of if you really needed it. request
        1. +1
          14 November 2018 00: 54
          "Hamas is your personal cardboard villain" /////
          ----
          Israel, when it left Gaza, wanted to transfer it to Fatah (Arafat). So they did. But very soon
          Hamas made a coup, killed the Arafatites, and since then has been ruling unchanged. At the same time, he periodically crushes Islamic Jihad when he threatens power. And ISIS crushed when they tried to create cells in Gaza. Israel cleared Gaza several times, but each time it turned out that there was no one to replace Hamas, unfortunately. Radical Islam is very popular in Gaza, nothing can be done. sad
          1. +2
            14 November 2018 06: 36
            Israel did not want to transfer Gaza to Fatah. On the contrary, he did everything so that Fatah lost to Hamas. Just because Fatah is considered a handshake, but Hamas is not. And enough Israeli experts say the same thing. Yes, even Kedmi, often quoted here, more than once spoke about this on Eton TV, that Hamas is in power only thanks to the help of Israel itself. You can treat him as you like, but the fact that he has long been acquainted with Netanyahu and with all the hand you know. Therefore, Hamas was not only allowed to gain a foothold, but also helped, removing competitors. And Islamic Jihad is not a problem for Israel at all. It is even more convenient, since you can not stand on ceremony with it. request
            But again, if desired, the Gaza problem can be solved in a few months. And with benefit to many parties. But the existence of such an irritant at hand and its constant provocation is stupidly beneficial to your hand-woo. And in general, all these brutal shelling of neighbors and recent operations in Gaza are simply an imitation of violent activity. not only not ensuring your safety, but also worsening it. hi
            Well, what about the popularity of radical Islam in the gas. Rather, it is not radical Islam that is popular, but deliberate anti-Israelism. Gaza is a big prison. Well, or an Indian-type reservation. In the United States, the Indians were driven to such places at one time. What the Indians still do not like the Yankees. Even though. that gambling is allowed on reservations and has its own police force. One and a half million convicts live on this reservation, or rather prison. And here is a miracle. that convicts usually don’t like their guards and prison authorities. Even if it gives them soldering and provides light in the cameras. belay And convicts are always ready to put their favorite warders on a knife. And the most frostbitten guys usually rule the ball in such prisons. And all this imitation of violent activity on the part of your security forces and arms is not very scary for them. They will always have many new recruits. The dead will always be replaced by new ones. And so it will be constantly. hi
  13. +1
    13 November 2018 10: 45
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: shamil
    Israel is never ready for negotiations and what should the Arabs do in this situation? They planted Jews on their land and should they creep?

    Support!
    In connection with the barbaric aggression of Israel, against the sovereign Gaza Strip, I propose.
    1. Create a petition addressed to the President of the Russian Federation, demanding military assistance to the Gaza Strip, in the form of supplies of modern defensive weapons.
    2.Start fundraising to provide material assistance to victims of Israeli aggression.
    3: Begin collecting humanitarian aid for those in need in the Gaza Strip.
    4. Place refugees from the Gaza Strip in Russia. Not indifferent people, respond to trouble, shelter the families of the homeless as a result of the barbaric attack of Israel.
    5. Introduce sanctions against Israel.
    6. Break diplomatic relations.
    7. To form a well-armed brigade of volunteers who want to help the brooding people of the Gaza Strip.

    It is necessary not openly, as well as vilely, as they armed ISIS (zvRF), to deliver corners or vampires to Hamas, well, it doesn’t matter, most importantly vilely and quietly.
    1. -4
      13 November 2018 11: 01
      truth? but can you please iglasla list with pictures (there is a bunch of trophies) of modern Israeli weapons captured from the igil? for example, brands or Spike missiles. or at least something?
      1. +1
        13 November 2018 11: 07
        Sneakily and quietly))
        1. -3
          13 November 2018 11: 13
          that is, your intelligence is so bad that you can’t even recognize the Israeli markings on captured weapons to expose the adversary? or all the same, a racket?
        2. -2
          13 November 2018 13: 10
          And so secretly that they themselves did not know about it laughing
    2. -5
      13 November 2018 11: 08
      Right! And most importantly, for free, and then for another five years, the retirement age for all Russians to move forward, you will tolerate for the sake of the fraternal people of Palestine?
      1. 0
        13 November 2018 12: 13
        The retirement age has long been raised in most countries of the world and this is due to the same factor as in Russia - the life expectancy of the population is growing, in general, there are more pensioners !!!

        And there is no need to speculate on this topic and "play smart" about raising the retirement age for any reason ...

        More than sure that you don’t even know how many pensioners in Russia or what PF budget for a year or what proportion of the budget of the pension fund comes from the federal budget of the Russian Federation, but at the same time mock here on the topic of pension reform ...
        1. +1
          13 November 2018 13: 12
          And Kudrin said that pension reform will not bring stated goals. I translate into Russian is useless.
      2. 0
        13 November 2018 13: 11
        Quote: Yarr
        Right! And most importantly, for free, and then for another five years, the retirement age for all Russians to move forward, you will tolerate for the sake of the fraternal people of Palestine?

        In Israel, the retirement age of 67 years since the time of King Peas. Does it bother you much?
        1. +1
          13 November 2018 22: 03
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Quote: Yarr
          Right! And most importantly, for free, and then for another five years, the retirement age for all Russians to move forward, you will tolerate for the sake of the fraternal people of Palestine?

          In Israel, the retirement age of 67 years since the time of King Peas. Does it bother you much?

          So in Israel, and life expectancy is higher, as it were ...
          1. +2
            13 November 2018 23: 02
            Higher. But. I read a study about workers in the Israeli prison service (an analogue of the FSIN) who retired at the age of 15 years 50 years ago.
            What is a fly guard? Shifts. A lot of coffee, a sea of ​​cigarettes, little sleep and communication with not the most normative people for the most part.
            Those who retired at the age of 50 and did nothing with themselves (wound around hospitals, healing sores, rested) lived on average up to 55 years. Those who went to another job after retirement lived as an average Israeli (about 77 years old at that time). Conclusion - work (activity) prolongs life. Surrender to sores - kayuk.
  14. +4
    13 November 2018 11: 14
    Quote: Yarr
    Right! And most importantly, for free, and then for another five years, the retirement age for all Russians to move forward, you will tolerate for the sake of the fraternal people of Palestine?

    I'm not so stupid a person to hope for retirement. I remember the 90s.
    Isil-Irregular Army of the USA. Israel and the Saudi Allies of the United States in BV. Further extend the logic?
  15. +2
    13 November 2018 11: 15
    Quote: Yarr
    Right! And most importantly, for free, and then for another five years, the retirement age for all Russians to move forward, you will tolerate for the sake of the fraternal people of Palestine?

    And by the way, missiles can pay with pleasure to Iran, and they are cheaper than the Merkava tank)))
    1. +1
      13 November 2018 11: 30
      In pursuit of retirement reform = act of coup by the IMF. Therefore, we must make sure that the IMF does not care about us. The best way to spy on sowing conflicts is to create instability in other parts of the world, then everyone forgets about the American public debt))) and Christine Lagarde will forget about us if Israel is unstable.
  16. 0
    13 November 2018 11: 28
    IN! Well done!
  17. +2
    13 November 2018 11: 31
    Smart in Gaza will not go. Smart Gaza is about ... a bomb.
  18. +2
    13 November 2018 11: 53
    Israeli special forces, once in Gaza, entered into a firefight with the combat wing of Hamas.

    ... yeah, "turned out", the wind skidded)), got lost)), mushrooms were picked)) ... and to call things by their proper names - carried out a provocation, as a result of which they tensed on both sides ... the last similar mess, according to specialists, was the last time in 2014 ...
  19. +5
    13 November 2018 12: 08
    Israel sent armed people to the Gaza Strip, during the detention they resisted and killed several military personnel and citizens of the Gaza Strip, and now Israel also makes the Gaza Strip guilty by justifying the bombing of hotels and houses by the fact that there are terrorist headquarters there and wants launch a military operation against the Gaza Strip.
    This is just the height of hypocrisy.
  20. 0
    13 November 2018 13: 01
    According to the latest data, as a result of a large-scale rocket attack from the Gaza Strip, at least 12 people died, and about eighty more were seriously injured. Israeli intelligence agencies initially reported that only 8 people were injured as a result of rocket attacks, but after publishing information on social networks, they were forced to admit that there were much more victims.

    Analysts did not rule out that radio suppression from the Russian EW complexes located in Syria could become a disrupted Israeli missile defense system “Iron Dome”, however, it is quite likely that the Israeli “Iron Dome” turned out to be extremely ineffective at repelling a massive strike.
    Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/izrailskie-specsluzhby-popytalis-skryt-masshtaby-raketnogo-udara-po-izrailyu
  21. +1
    13 November 2018 13: 06
    Alarming news continues to come from the Middle East, where the Palestinian-Israeli conflict erupts with renewed vigor. It became known that the Israeli military command ordered the transfer of additional units of armored vehicles to the borders of the Gaza Strip.
    A month ago, the Jews announced in the media a ground operation in Gaza, so provocations with the rescue of special forces and further military action that played into the hands of the Israeli "war party" came in handy. Do Jews want war !!!? - a very rhetorical question of our turbulent time ...
    1. +2
      13 November 2018 15: 22
      By the way, a peaceful settlement has just been outlined with the Palestinians on a long-term basis, with the mediation of Egypt, and here you will receive and sign, for you, military operations from Israel ....
  22. -1
    13 November 2018 14: 06
    It is simply necessary to support Hamas in the event of the aggression of these violent Jews, the same "vampires" only let them shoot as markovki pierce interestingly ...
    1. 0
      13 November 2018 15: 51
      I am ready to support Hamas by providing three girls from the Gaza Strip with asylum from Zionist aggression in the territory of a private house in Gelendzhik according to the following parameters:
      1,74+
      110
      60
      90
      From 18 24 years up
      Nominations without photos, videos are not considered. Long live the Palestinian revolution!
      1. +3
        13 November 2018 22: 31
        Is there enough strength for three? wink
        If you need help, call
        1. +2
          13 November 2018 22: 40
          I think enough.
          But I'll call you))) drinks
  23. -1
    13 November 2018 14: 10
    How on time it all started .... about the S-300 in Israel, they somehow forgot right away - they distracted us.
    Maybe this is just the case when revenge (for the IL-20) is "a dish that should be served cold"?
    Jews already have their first victims.
    They haven’t introduced tanks yet (is it possible that Hezbollah hasn’t got hold of normal ATGMs and the experience of using them in Syria?).
    The border with Israel is again "locked", our guys (who know how flaky UN patrols are) will not allow the smuggling of precision weapons (without approval) !!!!
    So the thoughtful (after meeting with Putin) Netanyahu says that everything is much more serious than they (the Jews) thought ....
    We’ll see - we’ll see.
    1. 0
      14 November 2018 00: 58
      so already avenged the Syrians for the downed Il. VKSs of the city bombed them and gave the land to foreign mercenaries who rehearse them. But as they say, anyone who wants revenge must dig two graves.
  24. 0
    13 November 2018 15: 57
    At first I wanted to write about the news, it’s a pity for peace. But something cynicism engulfed me, this sometimes happens to me. Given the history of hostility and the impossibility of a solution. Since there is both a national conflict and a religious and territorial one. So I’ll just say gentlemen pragmatists and atheists among Arabs and Jews take care of yourself for the future of mankind. Is natural selection so strong? Why am I cynical today? Yesterday, a friend came in during a conversation and included one Islamic sermon. Well, out of politeness, I listened silently, such nonsense, such psychological diarrhea, a theologian narrator, a man crying, telling asks for forgiveness from his parents for the return of beckett, hospitable. Considering how thickly manipulate people Natsik and internationalists (yes religious internationalists by the way). Well, except that Jews have nationalism in combination with religion. And when this conversation went into the mainstream about Jews and noticed the negative of a comrade, I realized the concept was untenable. The internationalism of Christianity and Islam could grow into anti-Semitism at the speed of light. That’s what I realized is incorrigible, considering that the Jews are ALSO such as anti-nationalists, anti-chauvinists, but the feeling of self-identification, self-preservation and religion away kills pragmatism and makes them inverse. Paradoxical psychology is like absurd humor. Herd instinct at war with pragmatism, coupled with imaginary values ​​leads to tragicomedy. Great experience of observation , I wish you all observantness and pragmatism. Probably the most stupid advice on the Military Forum)))
    1. +3
      13 November 2018 16: 52
      An Israeli BBC spokesman said: “These attacks are very different from what we did in the past, both in terms of quantity and quality of targets. The target hit rate is much higher - six and seven-story buildings in the center of Gaza. Our operations are very, very aggressive. We do not want to be in a situation where we play ping pong back and forth for each missile attack. We make the enemy pay a very high price. We are not letting them rest ... and our attacks are having an impact. We reached dozens of goals in less than two hours, including four “super targets” - multi-story buildings in the city center. We did all this without killing anyone, and we made sure that the surrounding buildings were evacuated ”

      This is the "Theater" of military operations. So scab and with cynicism.
    2. +1
      14 November 2018 01: 16
      just the military is quite pragmatic people. They don’t shoot without a team. And shoot at who the opponent is at the moment. And then you can have a drink with a former opponent even without a team drinks
  25. +2
    13 November 2018 16: 33
    Yes, nothing will happen, they will shoot, talk against each other and calm down. Until next time.
  26. +1
    13 November 2018 18: 26
    Hamas is a necessary evil so that there is no greater evil - a Palestinian state.
  27. +2
    13 November 2018 21: 49

    from this perspective, the merkava seems so ugly and disproportionate, a narrow chassis, a gun half the length of the tower
    1. 0
      14 November 2018 12: 29
      When the gun does not strongly favor the dimensions of the hull, you can confidently maneuver in the narrow streets of cities. Without fear of breaking the gun on the walls of houses.
      An absurdly long gun was now placed on Leo-2, making it immediately unsuitable for fighting in the built-up area.
  28. 0
    13 November 2018 23: 41
    Eh, the wrong people are sitting in the Security Council. Not those ...
  29. 0
    14 November 2018 03: 20
    The sons of Israel since 1948 did not differ in tact or diplomacy, only cunning, treachery and litigation are always the basis of their life position ..
    1. 0
      14 November 2018 09: 30
      and the Soviet never had any shame or conscience. Since 1918. A constant chain of lies, betrayal and oppression, starting with one’s own people. Israel decided to support only in spite of England.
    2. 0
      14 November 2018 12: 32
      "litigation is always the basis of their life position .. ////
      ----
      And they smashed Arabs from 10 countries into scrap metal in 5 wars. Continuous "litigation". laughing
      On the contrary, it’s a lot easier for us to fight in tanks than to fight.

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