Notes of the Colorado Cockroach. Fell again. And it doesn't matter what

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Greetings to you, dear readers! Recently, he began to notice a strange thing. He began to argue, resent, wonder, admire your thoughts. As he talks on the sidelines, in the sense of the kitchen, the younger generation, the father of the roof goes slowly.

And how can I not argue? Or how can you not argue with me? Who will tell the truth, if not a friend? All these propaganda games and the search for truth from the very beginning are doomed to failure.



And they are designed either for young animals, for which it is common to be radical destroyers, or for bio-robots that God has deprived of their brain. The thinking person is not re-educated. He is the way his father and mother raised him ...



In order to stop the discussion, the Ukrainian will now tell Russians about the nuances of the Russian language. Words can be good, even the same. But the meaning of these words is changing radically. "Do not persuade me" and "I do not have to persuade." Hopefully, the smart ones understand how they argue with them, how they provoke them, and you don’t need to understand fools ...

The beginning of November is time for us News. For example, yesterday it became known that we would not have any Ukrainian church. Two patriarchs, the Russian Orthodox Church (KP) and the UAOC, refused to run for the post of patriarch of the new church. And the Russian Orthodox Church (MP) considers not only these churches to be non-canonical, but (now) the Patriarchate of Constantinople along with them. So, the ROC will not participate in the elections a priori ...

In short, we pissed off with this church ... Even the Hydrant began to think. As always, lately something went wrong with us. The “manual patriarchs” of the Hydrant do not participate in the elections, therefore our Petro cannot control the church. And vice versa, the Istanbul Patriarch will quite gladly put his exarch into place of the Kiev branch ...



Church maidan? How are these? Come on…

But it was, at least for me, a truly significant event this week. Albeit without fanfare, not officially, but we honored the memory of General Vatutin and laid flowers on his grave on November 6. Not many of us were. But there were! We remember those who kicked out not only the fascists, but also our pack of executioners from Kiev ...

You know, in front of this date, there were bastards who hung a foul nameplate around the monument's neck. The descendants of the liberators ... In Berdichev, a memorial tablet was generally smashed on the monument to Vatutin.

The main thing is that these nonhumans blame the Soviet general for the death of thousands of Ukrainians during the capture of Kiev. You see, they were called up and sent to the front. Take your own capital. And they died ... For the Motherland ... For the USSR ... For Ukraine ... For Kiev ...

Interestingly, while the Russians, Tatars, Yakuts, Buryats, Mordvins, Kazakhs, Uzbeks and all the other Soviet soldiers, who died near Kiev, are normal losses? According to the logic of our assholes, why should our Kiev? Most of the soldiers and officers in the small homeland did not have war. And they came to fight for us ... They lie in mass graves in our land ...

Sorry for some nervous breakdown. But how can you keep calm while listening to all these performances? Vatutin that, should not take Kiev? Go around, surround and go on? Let the Nazis finish off the Kiev blockade? But the soldier would have saved.

Oligophrenes, as is.

Sorry again. I remembered here from the unprinted Conan Doyle:

“Barrymore, who did this howling in the swamps at night?”
- Sorry, sir, piled up ...

Kiev was torn from the hands of Europe and fell into the bloody hands of Stalin in 1943. If someone says that after the war, the capital of Ukraine did not become one of the most beautiful cities in the world, let it immediately go and drown in the nearest reservoir! Because it is even now visible.





But justice prevailed. In 2014, all of Ukraine is torn from the clutches of the Kremlin and inserted into Europe's ass. We sit there. It is dark and dying. But the Europeans.

Be that as it may, the kitchens in Kiev are preserved. And no one has canceled conversations for a “glass of tea”. So I talked to cockroaches from our military department. About patriotism.



Those who read my notes periodically, remember the breakdown of conscription. So, the patriots for some reason do not want to go to protect us. At the beginning of October, only about 40% recruits were found. More precisely, 8% came by themselves. The rest of them are caught like cats in Dog Heart. In basements and gateways.

“Citizens, residents of Kiev, didn’t apply to the military commissariats and don’t apply, that is, we are looking for them with the help of the National Police and then deliver them to conscription areas, where their fate is determined as a conscript. As of today , did not appear at the 23 424 recruiting stations. "

"Today, 346 citizens, residents of Kiev who are willing to do military service under contract in military units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are called into the military ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine under contract. Of these, 76 are women and 163 have the status of combatant".


And why do the military suffer? Dial in the villages, as before, and all. Or drunks in Ukraine are over? In Kiev, live activists, not recruits. Yes, and relatives of these same activists in the aggressor country a lot. At the time of calling all immediately called to visit. And we are responsive people, love to visit. While allowed.

In general, we are stupid conscripts. This is an opportunity to cure all diseases for free. Look, they say, the old woman, by mistake and weakness of the eyes, instead of the polyclinic, went to the military registration and enlistment office. So an hour later came out completely healthy. Though now in the trenches. And you say ...

I do not understand why we do not take an example from our native heroes. An example of resilience and, not afraid of the word, heroism! And no one can say that this is a Russian hero. Our Kiev!

Shulyavsky bridge! Remember in August, I wrote that it will be torn down on September 3-4? Yeah, the Ukrainians do not give up. So simple. It is a bridge! Just not the bridge, but Pavlov’s house. Can not tear down. The whole world, judging by the names of cranes, excavators and automobiles of all kinds, is against. And he is worth it!







I remembered here. The cockroach came from a bachelorette party. It is clear that they were not only chasing there. So I decided to show who's boss.

- Are you drunk?
- Who told you such nonsense?
- Your eyes!
- So you got caught. I drank myself with my friends while I was dating the girls. Tell me where did you see the talking eyes?

Then both laughed. But everything is correct. Talking eyes, the heroic bridge, the Ukrainian Istanbul Church, the Ukrainian choice in Washington ... There are many things in the world, friend Mykola, which our sages have not dreamed of. Hamlet is right. More precisely, Shakespeare. But he lived at the end of 16 - the beginning of 17 centuries. And the bridge is going to be dismantled now, in mid-December ...

Something I'm seriously talking about our life today. I was here on the subway on Wednesday. Station Khreshchatyk. I stand and suddenly I hear women's screams. The main thing is that there are no trains. What are yelling? I walk up to the edge of the platform and ... In short, in the gutter, or what is the name of the pit in the subway between the rails, the man is sleeping!



I understand, went over the gorilki and landed down. And there, without thinking twice, lay down in the gutter. And rightly so, by the way. I later learned that the chute is used to rescue a person as the train approaches. Field of miracles ... In this case, a good miracle. Alive peasant something, woke up, pulled out. Even the train slowed down for such a thing.

I also have an example of the paranoid schizophrenia of our deputies. The main role of the deputies of the Petro Poroshenko bloc led by Alexei Goncharenko. It was they, these same deputies, wrote a letter to Putin. stylized "Letter of the Cossacks to the Sultan of Turkey". Between us, talking to psychiatrists, such a case is not met in every mental hospital.

Let me remind you that the letter of the Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan is Ukrainian written historical artifact. The document, written in 1676, was the response of the Zaporozhye Cossacks to the demand of the Turkish Sultan Mehmed IV to recognize his power. It has been translated into different European languages.

One thing is incomprehensible to me why all this punks decided that the Zaporizhian Sich associated itself with the non-existent Ukraine in the 17-18 century? The words "Ukrainian", "Ukraine" in the letter no. Yes, and the Russian people from the Russian feudal lords fled to the swamps beyond the thresholds. In the 17 century, Cossack freemen did not intend to refer themselves to one or another territorial entity or state up to the middle of 18.

Books need to be read, deputies, liter of you. Gogol's "Taras Bulbu", Henryk Sienkiewicz - "Pan Volodyevsky", "Crusaders", "Bogdan Khmelnitsky" ... Well, there is not a single mention of us there. Everywhere there are Russian troops, Pskov, Veliky Novgorod, knights, princes, the Orthodox Church ...

"We, as MPs from the BPP, decided to give Mr Putin an answer to all his actions. And we want to give an answer in the old Ukrainian style, which our ancestors, the Cossacks, still showed us."

And now feel the depth of the fall of the political elite of Ukraine. I will not translate it. It is more interesting to me who after that will greet our deputies in all these EU and UN.

"Ukrainian deputies - Putinu!

Ty, president, devil of Moscow, and damned devil brother and comrade, Lucifer himself is the secretary!

Yaki in the face of the litter, if the golim ass їžaka not vb'єsh? You will not, bitch si blue, Ukrainian sinіd mother. Your own will not be with you, with earth and water we will be with you.

From so tobi Ukrainian people are visloviv, plyavavche. You will not be able to graze hogs.

Now kincha боmo, bo number is significant, and the calendar is mama мo, mіsyats u ni, rik k knzi, and the same day for us, yak і you, for tse potsіluy u dupu us! ".


Well, that's our all. I don’t know how they wrote it, but the fact that they attribute to your Putin the desire to fuck under / over the sons of the Ukrainian ... Well, for sure Lyashko kissed himself!

But about the "fight with land and water" - this is almost the topic. Because at such a pace they will only have to fight. Although personally I would prefer more prosaic for war Tanks, guns, ships ... But it is possible, therefore we will fight with what we have. About Aviation not a word, but we don’t have it.



Once I witnessed a telephone conversation of a young girl from the “descendants” with a taxi operator. Overheard not specifically. The girl screamed more than she said. Yes, and with the sound on:

- Hello, is this a taxi? I've been waiting for your orange-colored car for half an hour! ..
- Girl, Opel is waiting for you for half an hour in blue ...

Then I just laughed. Well, what to take with a young blonde? And now I understand that the disease has gone too far. These are not "classic" blondes. This is the political elite of the country, those who represent me in Europe and other regions ... I can imagine that even some pygmies think about us ...

"Dear editor, can it be better - about the reactor? There, about your favorite moon tractor? After all, you can't! - a year in a row ..."

Great yet poet Vysotsky. Right in the heart. Without anesthesia. Probably, really, enough about "scare with plates ...". It's time to talk about the stomach. In terms of economics.

I'll start with peremoga in the automotive industry. Since the beginning of the year, 5830 units have been manufactured in the country. vehicles, which is 12% less than the same period last year.

Trucks we released last month already ... 12 pieces! Why do we need trucks? Soviet can not finish off. And the Belarusians help with their "MAZs". In total, 736 units of cars were released in October! Eurocar plant tried (86% of total output).

Have you noticed your own reaction to the news? Again fell ... And no matter what. Fell is now the same Ukrainian brand as Soon. Or Zrada. Perceived completely indifferent. Like the Leaning Tower of Pisa by the inhabitants of Pisa. So what, what leaned over? Not collapsed, and fine. Let the onlookers admire it ...

I just had a question about this. Economic and political. Here I wrote that the production of cars fell and thought. And how will this affect the collection of Polish strawberries? And you know, I came to the conclusion that nothing. So why do we need these car plants? We will protect the environment ...

Or here's the gas. Imagine how you now wrinkled noses. Again ... And I may want to surprise you! Here I am such an amazing insect of all! The volume of gas is currently a record for the last six years. At the same time, this year Ukraine reduced gas imports by a quarter.

"According to the state-owned company (Ukrtransgaz. - Comm. Ed.), 7 November UGSs switched from net injection to net gas extraction. In particular, 7 November was pumped 0,23 million cubic meters of gas in the selection of 1,8 million cubic meters., and reserves in underground storage facilities amounted to 17,193 billion cubic meters. "

And the Bulgarians? I remember how you were indignant at their refusal to build a branch of the pipeline through its territory. Properly outraged! No, the fact that they threw you is normal. We Europeans are all like that. But the fact that they are throwing us ... Imagine, since 2020, Bulgaria has reduced the transit through Ukraine by 30%. You see, they will receive Azerbaijani gas through Greece and Turkey. And we?

"Now Bulgaria is almost completely dependent on the supply of Russian gas transported through the Ukrainian gas transportation system and the territory of Romania."

Petkova (Bulgaria’s Energy Minister Temenuzhka Petkova - ed.) Also noted the potential supply of natural gas from LNG terminals in Greece and Turkey. According to her, there is a possibility of supplying natural gas from Romania, and Sofia hopes that after gas exploration in Bulgaria’s Black Sea will have its own booty. "


And this is against the background of our war with the aggressor. We have already reduced transit by 4,9 billion cubic meters or by 7% compared to last year. Or do the Bulgarians think that we do not know about their request to make an offshoot from the "Turkish Stream"?

Strange somehow. Everything seemed simple in 2013. Come to the store. "Give a beer and a half". And everyone sees that the Russian man. And they treat you exactly the same. And it is worth slightly changing the wording, and ... "Give me three pints of beer." Everything. You are already an English squire, or even a lord of some kind. European.

And today I’m looking for Ukrainians. There is everything. In addition to the Ukrainians. Moreover, there are a lot of small Ukrainian children. And then ... disappear. Paradox. Do you know the reason? I tried to understand this for a long time and, in my opinion, I found it. It's all about fat!

“In January-October, the export of pork 2018 of the year decreased by three times compared with the corresponding period of 2017 of the year - to 1,5 thousand tons, the State Fiscal Service reported.



"Import of pork to Ukraine for this period increased by 5,7 times - to 23,4 thousand tons. Pork was imported into the country by $ 43,2 million against $ 7,2 million in January-October of 2017 of the year."




Can a Ukrainian be raised in Russian, Polish or Belarusian fat? After all, it is not for nothing that Belarusians hold onto their bulbs like that. Product forming national identity!

Cheer you, or what? So, the spokesman for the General Prosecutor's Office, Colonel Andrei Lysenko, was driving on the Kiev subway ... And do not laugh. This is official information!

"A spokesman for the Prosecutor General's Office, Andrey Lysenko, said that a package of sandwiches was stolen from him on the subway. The incident occurred on Friday morning, 8 in November, Lysenko said on his Facebook page."

"This morning in the subway, someone stole sandwiches from my bag. Maybe it will save someone's life. Not offended at all."


It remains with the Hydrant in the trolleybus to remove the flask with the vodka and pull it off. Democracy. Although, knowledgeable people say that this could be only in one case - they confused. Packed bundles of money and a pack of sandwiches. And maybe not confused. Who admits that his bribe was whistled ...

Finished writing and rushed to the station. Something I dropped from the topic of passenger transit. You need to know where to run. So, I inform you that you are not so easy to get rid of us. Trains in Russia go as before. And the fact that our minister got involved there ...

And then, if you could only imagine how much money each car of the train coming from Ukraine to Russia brings to the treasury, you would have gasped our Vovchik Omelyan in psychos. And Omelyan, like a real Ukrainian, did the right thing. And, having declared in words that everything did not go to Mordor Bole, the trains did not go, with Russia, nevertheless, the message was preserved.







Editor’s Note: when taking pictures of the 6 in November in the city of Tula at the Moscow Railway Station, the crew members were surprised by the arrival of the Dnepr-Moscow train station interspersed with Krivoi Rog-Moscow.







So the trains "forbidden and stopped" by Omelyan are still running.

By the way, Ukrzaliznytsia is one of the few profitable enterprises in Ukraine so far. Working for export.

Why, I saw that we are to the Year of the Pig.



Something somehow does not make us happy. On the one hand, it is necessary to re-elect the Hydrant, so that later not to look for a follower, when it will be necessary to keep the answer for everything that he has done. On the other hand, a pig in a pigsty is cool. She's the mistress there. Tinkering with things ... In short, the understanding has come that we will have a difficult time.

Today I finish writing. Drawn on abstract philosophy. And this is a sign of fatigue. So I’m finishing “hammering your brains with a jackhammer” and better “playing your violin”. In general, as you noticed, and according to my Tarakanushka, I often say smart things. But I continue to live like a jerk ...

Maybe this is love for the house, for the city, for the Motherland ... After all, it has long been known that those whom they no longer converge with are shouting their belts the loudest. It is thieves who really want to catch a thief. The most courageous ones who never fought ...

And you good luck and successful in overcoming all the obstacles and troubles of life. May there always be happy people around you. Happiness, it's like the flu. Contagious. Will live!
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  1. +2
    12 November 2018 05: 39
    The "tame patriarchs" of Hydrant do not participate in the elections, so our Petro will not be able to control the church.

    So let him concurrently become the patriarch of the new church.
    1. +11
      12 November 2018 05: 49
      laughing And he has not yet decided which faith to join. He prays for the Orthodox, takes communion with the Catholics, but does not take off his coward so that no one sees the circumcision ....
      1. +4
        12 November 2018 13: 37
        Quote: domokl
        but the coward doesn’t take off so that no one sees the circumcision ....

        By the way, when Sklifasovsky retired and got into the synagogue to do circumcisions, he had never heard in his address - SHORT SKLIFASOVSKY !!!
    2. 0
      12 November 2018 06: 44
      Quote: Comrade
      So let him concurrently become the patriarch of the new church.

      No, this is not why the United States "muddied" this story with the division of churches and wasted on all this. They will send a candidate from their own. And they will push him to the post of Patriarch.
      1. +3
        12 November 2018 22: 14
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Comrade
        So let him concurrently become the patriarch of the new church.

        No, this is not why the United States "muddied" this story with the division of churches and wasted on all this. They will send a candidate from their own. And they will push him to the post of Patriarch.

        Filaret organizes an autocephalous church, although two years before that he himself said that autocephaly does not give the right to receive communion, funeral service, or baptize - it does not give the right to do anything, it is illegitimate! And that means that thousands of people who followed him were deceived.
  2. +5
    12 November 2018 06: 08
    I have only one tsikavo - the author himself understands that if he sincerely considers himself so-called. "Ukrainian", then he is 100% ... (further words from the list zaboronenny on this site) ??
    I do not want to offend anyone in any way, but so far this true (and simple as a nail) thought not to take root in the inhabitants of the Outskirts - nothing will ever change!
    You can’t build in a swamp, no matter what nanobricks you use!
    1. +3
      12 November 2018 11: 09
      Quote: isker
      he sincerely considers himself a so-called. "Ukrainian", it is 100% ...

      Citizen of Ukraine, i.e. Ukrainian. Probably in that context.
    2. 0
      13 November 2018 00: 02
      I agree - until the Sumerians from the head wears off the thought that they are "NOT Russian" not a damn thing they can not cope with !! For one cannot build oneself on the denial of oneself, forgive the name of this disease, I have forgotten.
    3. 0
      13 November 2018 12: 59
      The outskirts are on the edge, and Ukraine is what they stole.
    4. 0
      14 November 2018 09: 17
      You are mistaken, dear, Peter won away Petersburg smile and inappropriately run into a cockroach, I would in its place also persistently live on and wish everyone happiness. Although I scold three-story Ukraine, but a person, if arouses respect, so you can’t get anywhere.
  3. +7
    12 November 2018 06: 47
    Happiness, it's like the flu. Infectious.
    ... Everyone strives to inhale oxygen, and to breathe out all sorts of nasty things ... In 1991, as all the republics of the USSR breathed oxygen, and on exhaling, what happened turned out ...
  4. +4
    12 November 2018 06: 49
    About koradsky hi
    If someone says that the capital of Ukraine after the war did not become one of the most beautiful cities in the world,
    Is it only Kiev? The war passed through those territories with such a skating rink that little remained intact. In my hometown, most of the "old" buildings have signs from 1948 to 1954.
    Thanks for the photo with the "soldiers of the Armed Forces". It once again confirmed me in one personal observation that at least 30 percent, or even all 40 percent are women in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    The main role of the deputies of the bloc Petro Poroshenko, led by Alexei Goncharenko.
    This "lip-slap-changer" jumps out of his pants, trying to show his importance, but he is cunning, but not smart ... What he proved perfectly, for example, his dispute with Vilkul, he "butchered a turtle like God"
    There’s not a word about aviation, but we don’t have it.
    Unfortunately, your last teachings, "Clear Sky", have shown this. MiG and Su are also flying.
    And the Belarusians help with their MAZs
    Fact, the enterprise of Pan Poroshenko, called "Bogdan", reports every month on the next successes, as well as on the assembly of MAZ vehicle sets at its facilities and the dispatch of these "bogdan" to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Can I raise a Ukrainian in Russian, Polish or Belarusian fat?
    It is a fact that the "greasy breakdowns" in the markets have thinned out, and indeed there are fewer grocery stores, more clothing
    Editor’s Note: when taking pictures of the 6 in November in the city of Tula at the Moscow Railway Station, the crew members were surprised by the arrival of the Dnepr-Moscow train station interspersed with Krivoi Rog-Moscow.
    I confirm - walks. Yes, it was shortened, but there were fewer trains, but it was walking. And by the way, its composition is quite decent wagons.
    1. 0
      12 November 2018 16: 10
      If decent cars look like a crumpled can, I’m afraid to imagine what ordinary cars look like ...
      1. +2
        12 November 2018 16: 19
        laughing Once upon a time, a mustachioed wrote that somewhere in the western Ukraine the train started from the pusher ... fellow
        So you can imagine this miracle of the 20 century
      2. +4
        12 November 2018 16: 25
        Quote: asp373
        I'm afraid to imagine what ordinary ones look like ...

        Do not be afraid, see for yourself. I was convinced and I say that the cars on the Dnepropetrovsk-Moscow train are NORMAL
        1. +1
          12 November 2018 17: 59
          Quote: svp67
          carriages on the train "Dnepropetrovsk-Moscow" NORMAL

          laughing it’s easier for me to check the cars of the Moscow-Beijing train)))
        2. -1
          12 November 2018 22: 29
          So that's just the point that I was convinced. Even in the well-fed times of the "bloody panda". They are worse inside than outside. The conductors are also made of pure synthetics from the Savets times. Brrrrr ... And this smell at the Kiev station from the Kiev train. It would be better if bears came to us from the outskirts, honestly.
          1. +3
            14 November 2018 06: 22
            Quote: asp373
            They are worse inside than outside.

            I will not talk about your experience, again I will speak for myself. Earlier, this train also used "Gdrovsky" carriages, but now new ones, Kryukovsky ones, with dry closets. I repeat again - NEW
            1. -1
              14 November 2018 06: 57
              Did you see the photo above? Where are they new? These are relics of a vanished civilization by some miracle that have not yet crumbled into dust.
              1. +1
                14 November 2018 11: 32
                Quote: asp373
                Did you see the photo above?

                Sorry, but do we know each other? I don’t say “you” to strangers.
                Quote: asp373
                Where are they new?

                Listen to what I saw and tell. Every day there is one train going to and from Moscow, and what and how they complete it is up to them.
  5. 0
    12 November 2018 07: 27
    Will live!

    it’s a pity that he himself will not see who is pronouncing his words now wink
  6. +3
    12 November 2018 09: 03
    Well, yes, there were so many screams and peremogi about their "native" church ... But, as usual, everything turned into a grandiose joy.
    Well, if the schismatics themselves do not want to have anything to do with the "new native" church, then ... How to say, this is not at all what was expected.
    Herr Poroshenko again drove himself into the pig garbage.
    We are looking forward to being educated in the next “people's Ukrainian” church. Filaret won't calm down.
  7. +1
    12 November 2018 09: 14
    Thank you dear author! The only thing that develops in Ukraine is humor! Diesel show (my condolences for the tragic death of Marina Poplavskaya!), Studio block 95, and of course BP! Moreover, the mandatory percentage of attacks by humorists towards the Russian Federation is minimal at a level so that they do not sew on the harass! Well, Petro Wasserman ... for some reason remembered Galkin (his poor dad), who said about our Zhirinovsky that if public people give a piece of bread to parody, then Wolfovich gives us (parody) a whole loaf. Well, in the case of Pan Wasserman here in my opinion and with a piece of fat! I recall a parable about the ruler and people. The meaning is that when a people cries - there is something to tear off, but when he starts to laugh - that's all, he has nothing to lose! So the question for the respected Pan Tarkan is - what percentage of fun in society?
    1. 0
      12 November 2018 22: 19
      Quote: lithium17
      Petro Wasserman ...

      Who is this!?
      1. +1
        13 November 2018 06: 30
        I apologize to everyone, thank you. Petro Waltzman he is! By the way, I look at the true surname from Wikipedia and removed other common resources!
  8. 0
    12 November 2018 09: 27
    The New Year will show. And how would we not have to slush the bloody porridge.
  9. BAI
    +5
    12 November 2018 09: 34
    The article mentions the metro, but not a word that it is Stalin.
    And that the bridge cannot be dismantled, so the Stalin tunnels for 41 years still stand.
  10. +1
    12 November 2018 10: 52
    After all, it has long been known that the loudest screaming belt tighten those on whom they no longer converge.

    Why ... Moseichuk raved the same thing. that before liposuction, that after it. It seems to have tripled, yes, they say the truth that the bug is small, but smelly)))
  11. +1
    12 November 2018 11: 15
    "I often say smart things. But I continue to live like ...

    ... After all, it has long been known that the loudest to tighten their belts are those on whom they no longer converge. It is thieves who really want to catch a thief. The bravest ones who have never fought ... "
    I just wondered at the end of aphorisms. Thank!
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    1. +2
      12 November 2018 12: 01
      Quote: seld
      For this, for this truly intimate sacrament (COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY AND WITHOUT QUOTES), they need a third ..., with a dubious reputation.

      You can see right away that you still have to live and live ... However, so many religious wars have passed in the world, so much blood has been shed for how and to whom to pray that it is simply criminal to ignore this problem today.
      Or do you think that religious massacre of believers is otherwise possible only in Islam? There, the Sunnis and Shiites cut each other’s heads at one time.
      Or forgot the Battle of the Ice? It was there that the Catholics and the Orthodox clashed. They tried to plant the right religion for us ... They drowned gardeners in the lake.
      So, in vain you consider faith an intimate affair. Even Stalin understood and used this during the war ...
  13. 0
    12 November 2018 11: 53
    Quote: shinobi
    The New Year will show. And how would we not have to slush the bloody porridge.


    Easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And the priests on both sides of this mess of blood and flesh also blessings with indulgence packs stamped!
    And think about it: but for what ??????? What for a truly Orthodox and believer CHANGES IN PRINCIPLE?!?!?!?!?! Will he become a Catholic or a Muslim?
    1. +2
      12 November 2018 12: 05
      belay I wonder why a non-believer would pretend to be a believer? You don't believe in God. even I, in general, a Soviet believer, and who attends church once a year and even then "accidentally passed-went", I understand that ...
  14. 0
    12 November 2018 12: 01
    More and more often I notice on suburban routes not Ukrainian Bogdans, but our Gorky ones, with a deer on a lattice ... the only thing inferior to ours is in the number of seats.
    It is not surprising that production is shortened in an independent.
  15. +2
    12 November 2018 12: 19
    Quote: domokl
    belay I wonder why a non-believer would pretend to be a believer? You don't believe in God. even I, in general, a Soviet believer, and who attends church once a year and even then "accidentally passed-went", I understand that ...


    Only the one who mmmm can sort the "believer from the unbeliever" according to the frequency of visits to the tsekvi ...
    If people. he sticks out his faith (which in fact is a SOOOOO INTIMATE BUSINESS), crosses himself at every corner and bows at the sight of any dome, this does not mean anything yet. Trust me. Purely psychologically / clinically, it can be assumed that this "believer" has messed up a drain in his life, that out of his own cowardice, stupidity, animal fear in his ignorance and misunderstanding of the general principles of FAITH, he is trying to somehow calm himself and JUSTIFY his abomination. Out of pure fear ...
  16. +1
    12 November 2018 12: 34
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: seld
    For this, for this truly intimate sacrament (COMPLETELY SERIOUSLY AND WITHOUT QUOTES), they need a third ..., with a dubious reputation.

    You can see right away that you still have to live and live ... However, so many religious wars have passed in the world, so much blood has been shed for how and to whom to pray that it is simply criminal to ignore this problem today.
    Or do you think that religious massacre of believers is otherwise possible only in Islam? There, the Sunnis and Shiites cut each other’s heads at one time.
    Or forgot the Battle of the Ice? It was there that the Catholics and the Orthodox clashed. They tried to plant the right religion for us ... They drowned gardeners in the lake.
    So, in vain you consider faith an intimate affair. Even Stalin understood and used this during the war ...


    Yeah, in general - I agree.
    And to achieve goals (any, including fair ones), any means are also suitable. Incl. and FAITH. "Stalin" - hinting at the story of flying over Moscow on an airplane with an icon of the Kazan Mother of God? There is no documentary clear confirmation of this yet. However, from this the EVENT does not lose its significance.
    "Battle on the ice": not everything is so simple and unambiguous, by the way, as you write about Catholics and Orthodox. Not so easy. Quite academic sources say something else. Although, of course, there was a difference in religion.
    The massacre between believers "only in Islam" did NOT mean it. Rather, even the opposite. Events that are closer in spirit come to mind.
    Rather, something else is noteworthy: in most cases, churches of various concessions did not have the leverage to stop the bloodshed, but in a fair amount, quite the contrary. I can’t immediately recall from memory at least one case when the church would slow down the war.
    Can you imagine if the Catholic and Orthodox Churches would act as a "united front" to stop events, for example, the first and second world wars? Meanwhile, the Vatican's position was very "interesting".
  17. 0
    12 November 2018 14: 12
    He looked carefully at the photo of the pig, one on one saw on the poster where there was a plague infected with plague, there is also a problem! I could be wrong, though ... The author loves hints in minor details!
  18. 0
    12 November 2018 16: 56
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Comrade
    So let him concurrently become the patriarch of the new church.

    No, this is not why the United States "muddied" this story with the division of churches and wasted on all this. They will send a candidate from their own. And they will push him to the post of Patriarch.

    This will be the biggest nonsense from the founders of the new church. It will be necessary to "cut" parishes for the new church. In Ukraine, already existing churches are fighting for every settlement. And then a new one ... So it will be at someone's expense. In general, the church has not yet been created, but already has three irreconcilable enemies.
  19. +1
    12 November 2018 17: 11
    Quote: Oleg Zhepalov
    I talked with ATO officers. Fighting on the level "we will shoot in your direction and you in ours, but only be careful!"
    remember, even in the war of 1914-1918 people were fraternized, tired of positional warfare. And here is one people.
    And yet, how many people died in the ATO in 2017? And in an accident in \ in Ukraine, 1997 people died (purely killed without injuries). Question: where is the chance to die higher?
    Losses in the "Strange War" of 1939-1940 were significantly higher ...
    Based on all this, I do not believe in war. Well, I do not believe it. They will not fight!
    Do you know why few in the ATO want to? not because of the mythical likelihood of death. Living a whole year in a raw dugout - these are terrible realities. That's because of what they don’t want. Plus, there’s a great chance that the grandmother will be thrown.

    Another question is interesting. Do the military, especially those who have been fighting since 2014, understand that they are running into the article "War crimes"? Turchinov, who signed the order to start the ATO, was nobody. And war crimes have no statute of limitations. They understand. But human psychology is designed in such a way that it is always looking for justification for actions. There is also an excuse in this case. In the course of communication with various people, such a picture was drawn that in the east of the country there is a country "Separalyandia" and its inhabitants "s. It is with this country that there is a border conflict. Convenient position.
  20. +1
    12 November 2018 18: 02
    Yes, the trains run. Only I won't go to them. I am the occupier .. And the "guarantor-hydrants" will always agree among themselves at the expense of a simple "cockroach" population.
  21. 0
    12 November 2018 23: 59
    Well, judging by the boar and "rural cockroaches" to the new rik - when ready good , will bake the belly and there will be Fat and Jelly, and smoked ears. lol good ... And there, somewhere, the "bottle of medicine" is clearly in store, the main thing is that the cartridges for the "bendanka" would be in abundance so that the new gangs would bypassed the village. am
  22. 0
    13 November 2018 07: 46
    Books need to be read, deputies, liter of you. Gogol's "Taras Bulbu", Henryk Sienkiewicz - "Pan Volodyevsky", "Crusaders", "Bogdan Khmelnitsky" ... Well, there is not a single mention of us there. Everywhere there are Russian troops, Pskov, Veliky Novgorod, knights, princes, the Orthodox Church ...


    Why so modest? And where is the book of the same Senkevich "Fire and Sword"?
    By the way, an excellent book very well showing the life of the Cossacks during the Khmelnitsky uprising. And the film was made excellent by the Poles. Even with Domogarov in one of the main roles. Domogarov there is the main villain-Ukrainians of course playing.
    Of course, one must take into account that the Senkevich Pole and Poles in the book are so cute and fluffy, and their prince Vishnevetsky is just his father for all Cossacks. Well, it’s understandable that Khmelnitsky was just some kind of separatist rebellion and supposedly unleashed a civil war.
    But firstly, the word Ukraine by Senkevich still skips though a book was written at the end of the 19th century. Secondly, for those interested in the current state of Ukraine in the book and film is extremely useful information.
  23. -1
    13 November 2018 11: 22
    Quote: malyvalv
    Books need to be read, deputies, liter of you. Gogol's "Taras Bulbu", Henryk Sienkiewicz - "Pan Volodyevsky", "Crusaders", "Bogdan Khmelnitsky" ... Well, there is not a single mention of us there. Everywhere there are Russian troops, Pskov, Veliky Novgorod, knights, princes, the Orthodox Church ...


    Why so modest? And where is the book of the same Senkevich "Fire and Sword"?
    By the way, an excellent book very well showing the life of the Cossacks during the Khmelnitsky uprising. And the film was made excellent by the Poles. Even with Domogarov in one of the main roles. Domogarov there is the main villain-Ukrainians of course playing.
    Of course, one must take into account that the Senkevich Pole and Poles in the book are so cute and fluffy, and their prince Vishnevetsky is just his father for all Cossacks. Well, it’s understandable that Khmelnitsky was just some kind of separatist rebellion and supposedly unleashed a civil war.
    But firstly, the word Ukraine by Senkevich still skips though a book was written at the end of the 19th century. Secondly, for those interested in the current state of Ukraine in the book and film is extremely useful information.


    Books - Yes, of course! Nooooo, to understand the true causes of the mess and its proper settlement, you still need to read scientific / academic publications (including primarily in the field of church and theological sciences), but NOT fiction, where the author always has the right to express his personal point of view, which in 9 out of 10 cases will be unprofessional, but designed for a wide and not too demanding circle of readers.
    Actually, I dare to suggest: all this mess with the division of churches is COMPLETELY on the conscience of the Department of External Church Relations of the Church (I write the name from memory). They have diplomatic practice there - NOT WORSE THAN IN THE MFA. Why they "missed" and / or allowed this situation to arise - The main "priests" just have to explain everything to the flock, sensibly, slowly, with feeling, sensibly, with arrangement. Answer the questions ... And most importantly - TO AVOID BLOOD SPEED BY ALL MEANS!
  24. 0
    13 November 2018 15: 03
    Thank you for the portion of optimism among this madness of both yours and ours.
    I hope that together we will still have the opportunity to laugh at all this insanity, as about something long gone ...
  25. +1
    14 November 2018 21: 13
    About Vatutin.
    You know, many real Ukrainians (real movnorazmovlyayuschie, not like some) said: "If you had shot your grandfather then it would have been better to drink Bavarian now." And you know, their dreams come true. This is such an amazing thing, a dream that if you want something for real, your wish will come true.
    That came true. Now life on the outskirts is very similar to the life of the indigenous population, which was planned according to the plan of Ost. The Germans, it turns out, made it freely available, so you can enjoy it. Well, the life of zrobitschans on Polish fruit plantations is very similar to the life of Slavic slaves who were stolen to work in Germany. Only before the slaves worked until they died, and now they are released to rest home. That’s the whole difference.
    The conclusion from this is simple: Fear your desires, or else they may come true.

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