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In Germany, announced the disclosure of military conspiracy against politicians

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Materials appeared in the German press about the uncovered conspiracy among military personnel. Edition Focus with reference to the materials of the case, he writes that the soldiers of the German special forces and the elite formation of Uniter allegedly hatched plans to commit the murders of political figures.


In Germany, announced the disclosure of military conspiracy against politicians


From the material:
The conspirators expressed conviction in the imminent collapse of Germany and prepared for the murder of unwanted politicians. They planned to collect them in one place for the purpose of subsequent physical elimination.


It is stated that there is no complete list of “possible victims” at the disposal of the editorial board, but at least one name is known. This is the chairman of the Left faction in the Bundestag, Dietmar Bartch.

Now the investigation is investigating whether the conspirators had planned their own coming to power after the murders of politicians.

All of their actions, according to Focus, the servicemen who participated in the conspiracy were discussed in the format of "secret meetings." It is added that the representative of counterintelligence agencies of Germany (42-year-old lieutenant colonel), who allegedly shared with the "conspirators" information about when those searches are planned, almost disrupted the incriminating operation. Apparently, he was so badly divided that even after these “notifications”, the Bundeswehr officers did not take care of the conspiracy. The searches took place, and the security forces discovered "secret caches" weapons and fuels and lubricants.

Now, as the newspaper writes, a counterintelligence representative is awaiting trial.

It all began with the identification of preparations for the terrorist attacks against the German authorities by the soldier Franco A. He, being a citizen of the Federal Republic of Germany, sent to the migration service information that he was a refugee from Syria. According to the investigators, it took the soldier to shift the blame for the attacks on the migrants.

The question of "exposing" the plot, the authors of the script for which named several officers and even sergeants of the German army, is proposed to be considered in the Bundestag in the near future.

In this material, the “Focus” surprises only one thing: how did it happen that so far the word “Russia” has not flashed into reality ... After all, it was customary to associate any negative events in the West exclusively with our country.
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor 11 November 2018 07: 07
    -17
    Yes, gather them all on the same ship and drown, as God did with the unrepentant prostitutes!
    1. prapor55
      prapor55 11 November 2018 07: 16
      +19
      This is what the post is all about?
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 11 November 2018 10: 58
        +2
        Quote: prapor55
        This is what the post is all about?


        without the Americans, this performance could not have taken place

        something can change a lot

        for example, power in Germany will change its attitude towards SP-2,

        the military will demand to strengthen the army and buy a lot of American weapons

        .
        1. prapor55
          prapor55 11 November 2018 11: 04
          -3
          According to the plan so, but why confused and why drown them, what should the young soldier do in the quitrent? Although German women have seen few attractive, maybe so.
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 11 November 2018 12: 14
            -1
            Quote: prapor55
            but where are they confused and why drown them,

            Clearly, you are not from Russia.
            1. prapor55
              prapor55 11 November 2018 12: 19
              +1
              You are my understanding, I’m still from the Soviet Union and I don’t need to climb with my five copecks at the level of the USE.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 11 November 2018 12: 22
                0
                Quote: prapor55
                You are my understanding

                people who do not know common jokes
                Quote: prapor55
                since the Soviet Union

                ??
                Quote: prapor55
                climb with your five penny exam level
                Well, you understand.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 11 November 2018 13: 11
                  +3
                  only one thing surprises: how did it happen that the word "Russia" has not yet appeared in the case ... After all, it has become customary to associate any negative events in the West exclusively with our country.

                  It's just that foreign migrants - refugees of the Muslim faith - have already "got" ethnic Germans in Germany with their crimes against Europeans and with their demands for themselves about free provision of their host countries, as well as tolerant indulgence on the part of the German authorities !!! am
                  1. sogdy
                    sogdy 11 November 2018 13: 13
                    0
                    But is this the prerogative of Alternative and Russian Germany?
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 11 November 2018 13: 35
                      +5
                      Quote: sogdy
                      But is this the prerogative of Alternative and Russian Germany?

                      Former Russian Germans are already leaving quietly from Germany. They basically have a place to go - i.e. return back to Russia. But German Germans have to take weapons and defend themselves in their own country - i.e. in Germany itself.
                      And it is the military. Since the Merkel-German police, the courts, the administration protect precisely foreign refugees - the so-called. "social" migrants - mainly from the huge masses of Muslims from North Africa and the BW countries.
                      And Merkel, with her universal tolerant foreign migration policy in the EU, is trying not to even notice the problems in Germany itself, but she simply ignores these national problems for ethnic Germans themselves.
                      It is clear that under such conditions, in the end, it will be the German military of ethnically German origin who will be forced to tackle the national German question in Germany. This is to be expected.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 12 November 2018 06: 37
          0
          Quote: bulvas
          without the Americans, this performance could not have taken place

          The first thing I thought about. It was already in Greece, Chile, Italy. You will not remember everyone.
      2. sedoj
        sedoj 11 November 2018 13: 06
        +1
        Quote: prapor55
        This is what the post is all about?

        A short story about kindergarten.
        Searches took place, and intelligence officers discovered the "secret caches" of weapons and fuel and lubricants.

        Go find in the garage a couple of cans of gasoline found, well, and something from a personal hunting. And so, I repeat again - kindergarten. Shredded everything somehow.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 11 November 2018 16: 14
          +1
          Quote: sedoj
          Quote: prapor55
          This is what the post is all about?

          A short story about kindergarten.
          Searches took place, and intelligence officers discovered the "secret caches" of weapons and fuel and lubricants.

          Go find in the garage a couple of cans of gasoline found, well, and something from a personal hunting. And so, I repeat again - kindergarten. Shredded everything somehow.

          Why are these "secret caches" of weapons at all, if there is a regular one - and you don't need to hide, and always at hand bully
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 11 November 2018 08: 33
      +4
      sorry that in 91 we didn’t have such
      1. Foxmara
        Foxmara 11 November 2018 09: 08
        -2
        were. putschists.
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 11 November 2018 10: 06
          +4
          The putschists were so caricature-impotent, so pathetic in their answers to literally immediately after the coup convened by the press conference that it was NOT RUSSIAN, but clearly a spectacle invented by the CIA, just in case of a real coup. That people would be disappointed in organized attempts at resistance.

          At the expense of Germany. I doubt that this conspiracy was real either. Wouldn't the military really care about conspiracy? So, over a mug of beer under fried sausages with their tongue in the pub, they scratched. In Munich's pub, between the Center for Contemporary Art and the Hilton Hotel.
      2. URAL72
        URAL72 11 November 2018 09: 20
        +8
        We also had heroes in August 1991, but they did not act too confidently. There was no real charismatic leader. But it’s a pity that the losses would be minimal, in comparison with the dashing nineties, not to mention the demographic catastrophe and local internal wars, one of which continues in Ukraine.
      3. Semen1972
        Semen1972 12 November 2018 12: 22
        -1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        sorry that in 91 we didn’t have such

        "Who is talking about what, and lousy about the bathhouse" is a Russian proverb.
    3. nafanal
      nafanal 11 November 2018 09: 32
      0
      Yes, why drown it yourself. It’s easy to empty a sealed trailer from Russia .. They’ll do everything themselves ..
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 11 November 2018 09: 44
        +4
        Give a coup in Germany! The situation is ripe ... but how did the counterintelligence officers burn so much?
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 11 November 2018 10: 43
          +5
          Quote: Svarog
          Give a coup in Germany! The situation is ripe ... but how did the counterintelligence officers burn so much?

          I am 100% sure that this "conspiracy" is just a fake from the media.
        2. venik
          venik 11 November 2018 12: 02
          +1
          Quote: Svarog
          The situation is ripe ... but how did the counterintelligence officers burn so much?

          =============
          MMM yeah!!! It seems that the saying "what country is such a terrorist attack" to Germany is IMPOSSIBLE !!!!!
    4. Comrade Beria
      Comrade Beria 11 November 2018 09: 55
      +2
      Everything repeats in history, development proceeds in a spiral.
      Hitler began his rise to power with the failed Beer Putsch in 1923.
      And then the prison, mine kampf, and then on the list.
    5. snake
      snake 11 November 2018 10: 28
      0
      Well well! It seemed to me that the Germans were already completely softened, but no. The spirit of old "good" Germany is still strong. Merkel, a tolerant, migrant soul, are you satisfied with the results of your work?
  2. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 07: 17
    +7
    In Europe, more and more fun)))
    1. prapor55
      prapor55 11 November 2018 07: 19
      +5
      Yes, not only ordinary people are starting to get tired of tolerance.
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 11 November 2018 07: 22
      +3
      In Europe, more and more fun)))


      Internal contradictions tear apart Europe and without the participation of Russia ... we collect popcorn and enjoy the action-packed German series ...
      The Germans are against migrants.
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 07: 32
        +1
        I feel sorry for the Germans) still the historical homeland)))
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 11 November 2018 07: 37
          +9
          I feel sorry for the Germans) still the historical homeland)))

          Due to the invasion of alien robbers and the policy of tolerance, the German nation may lose all the features of the Germans ... related only to their nationality ... I think soon we will not be able to distinguish outwardly a German from an Arab or Negro from the outback of Africa ... the devil will certainly be bored without German pedantry, accuracy, the technical genius of the German people ... the Negroes will not invent spaceships and rockets ... these robbers turned such a clean and comfortable Germany into the trash.
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 07: 39
            -2
            That's for sure. They have a couple of years left, then they will pass the point of no return. And it will definitely not change anything.
            1. saigon
              saigon 11 November 2018 13: 35
              +1
              Here I believe in the Germans, there will be a team and the migrants will break the migrants with German accuracy and pedantry, spitting on tolerance and morality.
          2. KCA
            KCA 11 November 2018 08: 33
            +3
            Here on TV they showed Boers who want to move from Blacks to Russia, and soon the Germans will start packing their suitcases
          3. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 11 November 2018 08: 49
            +1
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            the German nation may lose all the features of the Germans ...

            why maybe the GDR is still holding on, but it’s not known how long
            1. Bull Terrier
              Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 12: 44
              +1
              One good man told me that the former GDR members just hold the defense allegorically)))
              1. Doliva63
                Doliva63 11 November 2018 16: 18
                +5
                Quote: Bull Terrier
                ... former GDRs ...

                They are the last real Germans.
          4. Semen1972
            Semen1972 12 November 2018 12: 24
            -1
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            .I suppose soon we will not be able to distinguish externally a German from an Arab or a Negro from the depths of Africa.

            The invasion of Tajiks in Moscow does not bother you ?? And Ukrainians ... these Bandera + working in Russia?
        2. sogdy
          sogdy 11 November 2018 12: 25
          0
          Sho something recent events begin to resemble a bad novel about "bloody hebne".
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 11 November 2018 13: 08
            +2
            Quote: sogdy
            bad novel about "bloody hebne".

            In this case, about the bloody "shtazna". laughing
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 11 November 2018 13: 12
              0
              Quote: Paranoid50
              about bloody "shtazna"

              Alas, England, Austria, Germany ... staged adnaka. "Stages of a Long Way" ...
      2. taiga2018
        taiga2018 11 November 2018 08: 27
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        .picking up popcorn

        Well, yes, it's not all the same for us to arrange performances for them, it is a pity that there is no German Lenin to send to them in a "sealed" carriage, I hope this role will be performed by "Alternative ..."
  3. Observer2014
    Observer2014 11 November 2018 07: 19
    +4
    In Germany, announced the disclosure of military conspiracy against politicians
    Well, why be surprised. When politicians of the country carry out absolutely unnecessary policies for the indigenous population of the country. There will always be people who believe they must save their country. There’s one story with the arrival of millions of emigrants. And the whole objection to the authorities. The people hear a mockery of European values.
    1. prapor55
      prapor55 11 November 2018 07: 24
      +3
      Surprise is the disclosure of the conspiracy, maybe they aren’t like that, and once the trickster was found?
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 07: 34
        0
        As they say, if he knows more than two people, then someone will let it slip for anyone)))
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 11 November 2018 07: 39
        +3
        It may not be specialists in terms of conspiracy, but if the military had managed to collect the politicians tagged for explanations, I think they would not have blundered. But in the police and counterintelligence specialists work just for the conspirators. And they also did not blunder. yes
        1. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 11 November 2018 08: 16
          +7
          It’s quite clear. No wonder. Reaction.
          I was perplexed that something like this hadn't happened in Germany a couple of years earlier.
          The method, quite to itself, justifies the goal.
          In times of crisis.
          A typical situation in the historical process of many countries, including Russia, and especially the countries of Latin America ...
          It’s a pity that it didn’t work ...
          For our example, General Rokhlin, who intended to remove Yeltsin from power as the most striking example in the history of modern Russia and hand it over to the "Committee of National Salvation"?
          Indeed, Lev Yakovlevich, relying on his immense popularity in the army, was preparing a military coup to remove Yeltsin and his camarilla. Rokhlin's plan had chances of success, but everything was kept on his figure. And, he had both the strength and the means (several fully combat-ready military units), but some kind of bastard handed over the general and his entourage ...
          Here, on the site, by the way, there was already an article dedicated to L.Ya. Rokhlin
          https://topwar.ru/15437-rohlin-tayna-gibeli-myatezhnogo-generala-do-sih-por-ne-raskryta.html
          Enough, of course, conspiracy theories, but quite reasonably.
          But, in general, there is enough documentary material on the Internet, both for viewing and reading.
          Here, just for example, "Andrey Antipov -Lev Rokhlin: The Life and Death of a General," the documentary "Lev Rokhlin. Ordered to Forget."

          There were associates and followers ...
        2. prapor55
          prapor55 11 November 2018 09: 07
          +5
          Yes, something similar happened in 1993, the real officer Lev Rokhlin was tragically killed, and the remains of his corps were reduced, and the corps was once an army. Maybe not a topic, I just remembered the late patriot and a wonderful officer hi
      3. Mr Credo
        Mr Credo 11 November 2018 07: 51
        +4
        Surprise cause ranks plotting. Sergeants versus leadership !? Everywhere in the conspiracies the top leadership takes part, but in Germany the lowest! Was it they who scuffled in Russia when the girls were preparing a plot to remove Putin? It was the sergeants who set the conditions for Nikolai the second, Pinochet was probably ordinary, and Hussein and Gaddafi were civilians? And in Egypt? All coups do close to the body! Maybe I'm wrong, but so far I do not know of a single case of taking control of the country as a simple lackey. Yes, they are called Nazis! In general, with such an influx of migrants, Nazism is inevitable! So if this is a completely predictable situation, then why the surprise about Nazi interests? And if this is all a production? Why not? There is interest, there are beneficiaries. What development is possible after such news? Yes, only increased confrontation! Some will be for the Nazis, others for the migrants! Someone is trying to speed up the rocking of the boat! And this someone is clearly interested in the conflict of migrants and local! Well, who needs a technologically developed and successful Europe ?! Under capitalism, is there mutual support and transfer of experience? Capitalism is kind of like competition with the invisible hand of the market! Or are they doing without hands?
        1. Pax tecum
          Pax tecum 11 November 2018 08: 33
          +5
          You underestimate this category of military personnel.
          I recommend historical examples, like the Cuban dictator Batista (himself a sergeant), headed the conspiratorial organization "Military Union of Colombia", which included the so-called. ambitious sergeants, played an important role in the removal from power of Mochado, the so-called. "conspiracy of sergeants".
          Or have you forgotten one "ambitious" corporal in Germany?
          "The rifle gives rise to power", not in / s. holding this rifle.
          1. Pax tecum
            Pax tecum 11 November 2018 08: 48
            +1
            If successful, sergeants would become generals ...
            In Russia, by the way, we have examples, and the most striking is the head of one North Caucasian republic.
            1. sogdy
              sogdy 11 November 2018 13: 08
              0
              Quote: Pax tecum
              I recommend historical examples, like the Cuban dictator Batista (the sergeant himself)

              One of my grandfathers, the sergeant general of the United States Marine Corps, retired and retired as a lieutenant colonel of the USSR CA.
              So you do not confuse anything? Especially in the sergeants of the SA, the Bundeswehr and JI?
            2. temirtau72
              temirtau72 11 November 2018 13: 32
              +1
              This chapter was not even in the army. For every Chechen from birth is sleeping with a dagger, and when he grows up he takes up a machine gun.
              Of course, an interesting fact is the transformation of a rural boy into a major general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but politics is too much for it. Yes, and the csn base for him under the formidable was created unlike powerful, but the detachments of the special forces detachment were all disbanded. And there are enough specialists there ...
          2. Mr Credo
            Mr Credo 11 November 2018 13: 22
            +1
            Well thanks for the tip! I somehow did not know and was not interested in the military rank of Batista. About corporal in my opinion is not entirely true. Corporal he was already a former. Another thing is that he drew on time at the right time and in the right place. And he was noticed by those who needed it, and at the right time they gave a good kick for fast forward! In the current situation in Germany, I still do not believe in a coup by the lower ranks of the German army. Just as I do not believe in a coup in Russia, despite all the Russian problems.
            1. temirtau72
              temirtau72 11 November 2018 13: 35
              +2
              I support, colleague.
              Remember, not so long ago there was infa about the disclosure of a conspiracy in France, before that in Leipzig. And here again the lower ranks are organizing a "group" that is waiting for a meeting of politicians. Yes, they are going to holiday meetings in the Reichstag ...
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 11 November 2018 12: 29
          +2
          Quote: Mister Creed
          Surprise cause ranks plotting. Sergeants versus leadership !?

          Oh how! However, little by little the Germans are "growing over themselves"!
          Adolf Aloizovich, that’s how he was ... LEFTOR was ... And then there were solid SERGEANTS !!! bully
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 11 November 2018 13: 10
            0
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Adolf Aloizovich, so he is ... LEFTOR was ...

            He began his service in Austria-Hungary. He graduated from WWI as a lieutenant in the German Empire.
          2. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 11 November 2018 19: 16
            +2
            They grow, they grow. Then there is another Churchill, and will direct this German anger to the East.
        3. saigon
          saigon 11 November 2018 13: 40
          +1
          What sergeants wound up in the Bundeswehr?
          It seems like Unther they have with sergeants.
          1. Mr Credo
            Mr Credo 11 November 2018 13: 46
            0
            Well, they wrote that there is! Thank you for the humor!
        4. DarkMatter
          DarkMatter 11 November 2018 18: 12
          +2
          Quote: Mr Credo
          Maybe I'm wrong, but so far I do not know of a single case of taking control of the country as a simple lackey.

          And I generally immediately came to mind Sargon the Ancient.

          Wiki in brief: A late Akkadian poem known to science under the title “The Legend of Sargon” reports that its homeland was Azupiranu (“Saffron Town” or “Crocus Town”).
          According to legend, Sargon was a native of the lower classes, it was believed that he was the adopted son of a water carrier and consisted of a gardener and cupper bearer from the Kish king Tsar Ur-Zababa. The low origin of Sargon subsequently became the common place of cuneiform historical works. In view of such persistence of the tradition, with a great deal of certainty it can be argued that Sargon really came out of the people (actually, from the staff of the royal temple economy), or there was something in his activity or the accompanying historical situation that allowed to form such an opinion about him.
          According to legend, known in the New Assyrian and New Babylonian periods, Sargon's mother was a priestess who secretly gave birth to a child and let him in a reed basket in the Euphrates. The basket was caught by an aquifer, and Sargon was raised by him and became a gardener, and later the king (thanks to the favor of the goddess Ishtar).
          The king was overthrown by the gardener during the coup. Sargon (whose real name is not known) became the new king and, by the way, laid the foundations of the state system of the subsequent great powers of the Ancient East.


          P.S. about the Germans, it’s clear that garbage. Nothing would have happened, purely even theoretically. The maximum that I think is a bunch of sectarians, they invented something for themselves there, fantasized. But on the other hand, in any case, people are not very sane, with weapons. That’s why they were twisted, and the journalists began to spin the topic to its fullest.
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    3. Svarog
      Svarog 11 November 2018 10: 08
      0
      Quote: Observer2014
      When politicians conduct absolutely unnecessary policies for the country's indigenous population

      We, too, politicians are pursuing a similar policy .. Wait?
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 November 2018 07: 20
    +7
    In this material, the “Focus” surprises only one thing: how did it happen that so far the word “Russia” has not flashed into reality ... After all, it was customary to associate any negative events in the West exclusively with our country.
    Well, it's a matter of time. During searches, they will find the flags of Russia, photos of conspirators with Putin ... In general, a complete set ...
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 11 November 2018 07: 50
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In general, a complete set ...

      The standard set of a conspirator (SNZ) against democracy is a ushanka with a red star, vodka, matryoshka, balalaika. SNZ-M includes an additional half liter of "Novichok" in a container from under the "Stolichnaya", a false beard, felt boots with a jet launch booster and a photo of the GDP against the background of banners and weapons. laughing
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 11 November 2018 08: 32
        +4
        So just now they wrote - they found a parcel with a component of rocket fuel on the "post of Russia" - not otherwise, the ideologists of the "Petrov with Basharov" conspiracy sent it to their friends-agents in Germany, to refuel jet boots ... winked
  5. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 11 November 2018 07: 23
    +4
    Migration policy in Europe begins to give rise to opposition. This attempt did not take place. And what will happen next?
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 11 November 2018 07: 28
      +1
      There are millions of migrant workers from Central and Central Asia, whose older relatives expelled representatives of non-titular nations in the 90s. They don’t have any sympathy for the local population of Russia, its representatives of law enforcement agencies and military personnel.
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 07: 36
        +7
        Nothing will happen. Preventions for them periodically explain their place. We tried to rape one such girl, they screwed them so tight that they were quiet for several years. Everything from builders to taxi drivers fell under the distribution. We do not have Europe. Better not to greyhound. They will not treat them with understanding.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 11 November 2018 07: 42
          +1
          -Prevention for them periodically explain their place-

          Those involved in the transport of drugs and their marketing in Russia are not threatened with prevention, and even vice versa.

          - Everyone from builders to taxi drivers fell under the distribution -

          On TV: These shows do not in any way reduce the number of foreigners' crimes against the indigenous population. They create a nutritious base for the illegal operational activities of extremists and illegal arms trafficking.
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 07: 42
            -1
            The TV doesn’t know anything about this))) you don’t want to announce the reverse crime statistics?)))
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 11 November 2018 09: 07
              +2
              Watch the program on duty. And it’s best to talk with employees of the Ugro or PPS. It’s like a drawbar, where the compiler turns, it turned out there. If you believe one statistic, then the Norwegian cruise liners that go between the Caribbean and Miami should be full of Russian pensioners. According to other statistics, pension reform is not popular among the masses of workers.According to one statistic, the Russian Navy is ahead of the pace of development of the U.S. Navy.According to other statistics, the schedule of repairs of the KSF as an operational unit and the whole squad of ships was left without gas turbines and diesel engines.
              1. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 09: 10
                0
                And if you don’t get smart?) And just look at the number of crimes committed against representatives of this contingent ?!
                1. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 11 November 2018 09: 22
                  +1
                  This is an indicator that some of the local residents dared to protect their property and the health of their loved ones.
                  1. Bull Terrier
                    Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 09: 32
                    -1
                    Beautifully twist) stupid, but beautiful)
                    1. gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer 11 November 2018 10: 46
                      +2
                      Russian law enforcement officers can get out of it. They do not have the ability to control the activities of foreign communities, the activities of immigrants who have arrived in mosques.
        2. Same lech
          Same lech 11 November 2018 07: 45
          +6
          Everything from builders to taxi drivers fell under the distribution. We are not Europe. Better not to greyhound. They will not treat them with understanding.

          The main thing in time to catch and punish ... recently a citizen of Azerbaijan was caught ... a serial robber and then became a killer ... in Moscow he robbed a Muscovite ... then he started to kill them ... they caught this bastard thanks to a woman ... she managed to stun the robber and call the police.
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 07: 46
            +2
            In Europe, this woman probably would have been condemned for this))))
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 11 November 2018 09: 09
              +2
              Yes, try to repulse a foreigner when attacking you. If he claims to be beaten, you will at least have to enrich a lawyer.
              1. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 09: 32
                0
                In Europe, yes. But this is their grief)
                1. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 11 November 2018 10: 44
                  +2
                  As in the EU, millions of people from Central Asia travel to the territory of the Russian Federation, without visas. Without the opportunity to check their stay in the IRA, SAR, SA and other criminal areas.
            2. Surg
              Surg 11 November 2018 10: 43
              +2
              Since our attacker dies for self-defense, at the hands of the defender, 98% will be sent to defend this.
      2. Phil77
        Phil77 11 November 2018 08: 22
        +5
        Didn't you hear about Biryulyovo some time ago? The people got up, now a Renault factory is being built on the place of the * vegetable woman *, spare parts for the cars will be made. They explained to the newcomers how to behave on a visit and they understood.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 11 November 2018 08: 38
          +7
          They (migrants) are already correcting this mistake - I have a police academy not far from me, and I observe how from year to year the students there lose their "Slavic" appearance. This year, in general, some non-Russians were recruited there ... It seems that a little time will pass and such a "police" will understand whom to "protect" ... wink
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 09: 12
            -2
            Everything is possible. But there is one thing. These are educated people and not those who descended from the mountains. Different people. I have acquaintances, they also gave my son to the Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Very decent family. The fact that they are Uzbeks is often even forgotten.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 11 November 2018 09: 21
              +6
              - These are educated people and not those from the mountains -

              Sympathy for the locals, the fact of having diplomas does not add. For example, the servicemen Dudaev and Maskhadov managed to have two diplomas each. For a military school, and for an academy.
              1. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 09: 33
                -1
                And where are they?) Legends of old, forgotten already)
                1. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 11 November 2018 10: 43
                  +1
                  Instead, others appeared. Of those privileges for Chechnya that Ramadan Khoja has, Maskhadov and Dudaev could not even dream of.
                  1. Bull Terrier
                    Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 12: 34
                    -2
                    And what’s wrong with that?)
                    1. gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer 11 November 2018 19: 15
                      +1
                      Police and FSB officers know what is happening, as well as relatives of the victims and victims.
          2. Sorokin
            Sorokin 11 November 2018 13: 22
            +6
            For a century, UR went into its department and went nuts. All surnames on you know what end. About district police generally keep silent 100 percent are not Russian women. And this is in the heart of the Urals.
        2. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 11 November 2018 09: 09
          -1
          Russia consists not only of Biryulyovo.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 11 November 2018 09: 11
            +1
            This is just an example.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 11 November 2018 09: 13
              0
              Biryulyovo is in the largest village, right next to power. The media value and ratings. In Zamkadia, the picture is less bright.
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 11 November 2018 09: 16
                +1
                Ek, you designated Russia as a castle. Sorry, ugly.
                1. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 11 November 2018 09: 19
                  +1
                  This is the development of Russia. The main part of the country's budget goes to the capital. Started from the 20s of the last century.
              2. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 09: 35
                0
                How do you know how the regions live?))) From Kiev everything is visible?)))
          2. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 11 November 2018 09: 34
            -1
            By itself. Only this is not an isolated case. In Moscow, they are still talking with them, in the regions there.
  6. A good one
    A good one 11 November 2018 07: 27
    +5
    The result will be a conspiracy of the "colonels" of the Austrian and German. Events begin to line up in a single chain. It remains to define the "role" of Russia and move in a given direction.
  7. Susanin
    Susanin 11 November 2018 07: 40
    +2
    Something here is not clean .. The plot without Putin? Offend gentlemen. laughing
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 11 November 2018 08: 24
      +1
      Quote: Susanin
      A conspiracy without Putin? Offend gentlemen.

      Not yet evening. winked
  8. 1536
    1536 11 November 2018 07: 46
    +3
    Operation Valkyrie 2.0, modeled on 1944? Now, apparently, the leadership of the army, military intelligence, and whatever else has been restored in Germany, passes directly to the chancellor. This is truly what the classics say: "History repeats itself twice: the first time in the form of a tragedy, the second - in the form of a farce."
  9. Hto tama
    Hto tama 11 November 2018 07: 48
    +4
    It’s a very strange conspiracy, if the ultimate goal is to expose migrants, it’s stupid and they don’t need to crime there, it goes off scale. the panopticon request
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 11 November 2018 08: 22
      +1
      Quote: Hto tama
      if the ultimate goal is to substitute migrants, then it’s silly

      It can simply direct the investigation along a false trail. Well, it's like a version.
      1. Hto tama
        Hto tama 11 November 2018 08: 38
        +5
        Science does not know. Yes, and was there a boy at all? All this is very strange, in time, the scandals in one way or another connected with the military began, as soon as Macron announced the intention to create a pan-European army recourse
  10. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 11 November 2018 07: 59
    -1
    From the material:
    The conspirators expressed conviction in the imminent collapse of Germany and prepared for the murder of unwanted politicians. They planned to collect them in one place for the purpose of subsequent physical elimination.

    Thousands of our compatriots went through similar accusations in the 30s. True, there are not enough links with foreign intelligence services, but these are trifles. The main thing is to bring everyone together, of course, aerobatics performed by the conspiracy. Oh, did not wait. sad
  11. akudr48
    akudr48 11 November 2018 08: 00
    +5
    A fairy tale could become a reality. But she remained a fairy tale. It's a pity...

    Just imagine the prospects, the uprising of the Bundeswehr! Arson of the Reichstag! The trial of grandmother Merkel! Dissolution of NATO!

    And then a big treaty on eternal friendship and love with Russia, after which we will give them the Nord Stream-3,4,5 ...
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 11 November 2018 11: 16
      +1
      Quote: akudr48
      remained a fairy tale. It's a pity...

      Not sure I regret the failure of the coup. If their goal was the left, and this is what the article says,
      It is stated that there is no complete list of “possible victims” at the disposal of the editorial board, but at least one name is known. This is the chairman of the Left faction in the Bundestag, Dietmar Bartch.
      By the way, Sarah Wagenknecht is a member of the "left" party and has spoken out in defense of Russia many times.
      The Left Party offers one of the most pacifist approaches to foreign policy. According to the left, the forces of the Bundeswehr should not leave the territory of Germany. They also advocate a departure from the NATO system and reform of the UN. The approach of the political structure to Russia and Ukraine is rather ambiguous. On the one hand, a significant part of the party members sympathize with Moscow, and called the authorities in Kiev "fascist", on the other hand, along with most political organizations in Germany, they condemn the annexation of Crimea to Russia, regarding the process as "annexation."
      It seems to me that those preparing the coup are closer to the neo-Nazis, and it's not bad that they pinched at the door. It is not known what they could do.
  12. Vard
    Vard 11 November 2018 08: 02
    +3
    Perhaps we should refrain from a trip to Germany ... And then you will come to drink beer ... And here ... Bach! The coup ... And you will fall under the distribution .. well, then these are understandable for the cause ... But what for us?
    1. temirtau72
      temirtau72 11 November 2018 13: 50
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      Perhaps we should refrain from a trip to Germany ... And then you will come to drink beer ... And here ... Bach! The coup ... And you will fall under the distribution .. well, then these are understandable for the cause ... But what for us?

      Do not piss. There are enough Russians here, there is someone to shelter. Come, if there is something and on what, and drink our foam
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 11 November 2018 08: 10
    +2
    Yes, in Germany it is cooler, a "solid" conspiracy, in Austria, they float fine .. just "Russian" spies ..
    In this material from "Focus", only one thing is surprising: how did it happen that the word "Russia" has not yet appeared in the case ...
    .... This is yet to come ..
  14. vladcub
    vladcub 11 November 2018 08: 12
    +7
    And this is already an alarming signal: if the special forces begin to "cultivate plans to commit murders of political figures. So the existing political institutions are failing.
    Suppose they eliminate three or how many politicians, and then come to power, but whom? Something tells me that it’s not Mother Teresa, but something else. If you recall the year 1933, there was also dissatisfaction with politicians, and how did it end? And in Chile Pinochet? Here, what could be
  15. Nychego
    Nychego 11 November 2018 08: 18
    +4
    Hmm, so any surveyor ("survivalist", if you try to translate "from theirs into Russian") runs the risk of thundering under the same sauce: there are caches, there are bookmarks, he discusses actions after the collapse of the country with colleagues, well, gather politicians together, and then comb it with a machine gun is a blue-pink dream of at least a third of the survins.
  16. Naughty
    Naughty 11 November 2018 08: 28
    -1
    In Europe, an understanding is beginning that it is not Macron May and Merkel who rule it. In general, it seems to me that someone from outside rules the world. wink Well, in any case, not the politicians who are at the helm of the state They are simply conscientiously fulfilling someone's will Diligently destroying their states Our GDP did not agree to see this with this. lol But sooner or later in Europe, the gallows will begin to build for their politicians it seems to me so IMHO of course
  17. samarin1969
    samarin1969 11 November 2018 08: 28
    +2
    Found caches of weapons and fuels and lubricants ..? ... The guys were selling "unaccounted for", and they sew "politics". laughing
  18. Moskovit
    Moskovit 11 November 2018 08: 29
    +4
    The Germans began to wake up. Not surprising. Many migrants live for years on benefits, multiply and do not even bother to learn a language. Many crimes are committed by these loafers. No wonder the party Alternative for Germany is now growing by leaps and bounds.
  19. Alexander Bushkovsky
    Alexander Bushkovsky 11 November 2018 08: 31
    +2
    At the expense of Russia, more precisely, Putin and Miller, as they say, "it's not over yet!" ... And everyone will connect with the construction of Nord Stream 2
  20. demo
    demo 11 November 2018 08: 44
    +1
    In this material from "Focus", only one thing is surprising: how did it happen that the word "Russia" has not yet appeared in the case ...
    Do not add.
  21. wooja
    wooja 11 November 2018 09: 16
    +3
    about how ..., it’s necessary, it was the military’s business ..., espionage in favor of Honduras and Burkin Faso ..., seizure of power ...., Britain uses the GRU brand, Germany is reviving the NKVD .... The Gestapo is not nekamilfo yet ....
  22. rocket757
    rocket757 11 November 2018 09: 26
    +3
    Perhaps the Minister of War, a gynecologist, seemed to some an outrageous perversion?
    And finally, at least normal men should remain in the army! I will write seditious, true patriots of their country!
  23. nafanal
    nafanal 11 November 2018 09: 27
    +1
    Along the way, even a warrior got tired .. By the way your mother .. must save the homeland ..
  24. ohka
    ohka 11 November 2018 09: 45
    +1
    Quote: Hto tama
    A very strange conspiracy

    "Union of Sword and Plowshare"
  25. loginovich
    loginovich 11 November 2018 09: 55
    +1
    Shaw again Petrov and Bashirov?
  26. aleks.29ru
    aleks.29ru 11 November 2018 09: 59
    +1
    The Germans have a lot of experience. They tolerate, endure, and then arrange another crystal night.
  27. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 November 2018 10: 00
    +1
    .. something in German affairs things have become dark)) ... here on TV they talk about conspiracies, just like in any African country ... although if you take the number of foreigners from them, it will soon be a branch of some kind of trinabulda from the horn of africa ... laughing
  28. askort154
    askort154 11 November 2018 10: 19
    +2
    URAL72 ... BWe also had heroes in August 1991, but they were not too confident in their actions. There was no real charismatic leader ...


    There was Rokhlin - he headed the union of officers. But on the eve of their congress, Rokhlin is killed by "his wife". The authorities saw a real threat from this officer, who was rapidly gaining his authority not only in the army. yes
  29. APASUS
    APASUS 11 November 2018 12: 12
    +2
    Merkel bent down the Germans with a migration policy, and when the migrants began to rape the Germans, they got the answer. After all, German business suffers from the policies of the authorities, but it looks like the authorities do not give a damn, and slowly the finances and the military are developing for a common purpose
  30. Ber
    Ber 11 November 2018 12: 15
    +1
    Materials appeared in the German press about an uncovered conspiracy among military personnel. The Focus publication, citing case materials, writes that soldiers from German special forces and the elite Uniter allegedly hatched plans to commit the killings of politicians.


    If true, then the news is good, they will no longer disclose ................. well, it started

    Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.

    Do not hope that once using the weakness of Russia, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly justifying you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it’s worth playing with Russians either honestly or not at all
    .
  31. temirtau72
    temirtau72 11 November 2018 13: 27
    0
  32. tanit
    tanit 11 November 2018 13: 39
    +2
    "servicemen of the German special forces and the elite formation of Uniter" from the article.
    Uniter is an informal (public) organization like our "Officers of Russia" or "Veterans of Afghanistan". The attitude towards the special services is about the same as that of "Eddie" Limonov - like he himself did not serve himself, but I have such tough guys clustered together.
  33. temirtau72
    temirtau72 11 November 2018 14: 11
    0
    Quote: tanit
    "servicemen of the German special forces and the elite formation of Uniter" from the article.
    Uniter is an informal (public) organization like our "Officers of Russia" or "Veterans of Afghanistan". The attitude towards the special services is about the same as that of "Eddie" Limonov - like he himself did not serve himself, but I have such tough guys clustered together.

    Everything is correct. And why isn't what special forces called ?! The team is on the road, and to get there you have to go through a tough selection, no worse than not for the "maroon". And the "face of morality" is also checked. Especially after the disclosure of the Islamist cell in the Bundeswehr. And not just one.
  34. faterdom
    faterdom 12 November 2018 00: 42
    0
    According to the investigation, the soldier needed this to later transfer the blame for the terrorist attacks to migrants.

    So who in Cologne on New Year's Germans grabbed for everywhere!