Turkish M60T Sabra equip Ukrainian active protection complexes

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Turkish Tanks M60T Sabra will be upgraded and equipped with Pulat AKS active protection complex (Aktif Koruma Sistemleri). At the same time, it is reported that work on upgrading and equipping KAZ is already underway and 40 Turkish heavy vehicles will undergo it by the end of the year, the Turkish edition of Defense Turk reports

Turkish M60T Sabra equip Ukrainian active protection complexes




The installation of KAZ on M60T Sabra tanks will be undertaken by the Turkish company Aselsan, which, in the course of modernization before the beginning of the new year, will equip Pulat 40 tanks with active protection systems. At the same time, the publication indicates that KAZ Pulat AKS (Aktif Koruma Sistemleri) is a licensed copy of the Ukrainian KAZ Zaslon-L, developed by the Kiev-based GP BTsKT Mikrotek.

As the newspaper writes, the issue of insufficient protection of Turkish tanks rose sharply during the operation against the Russian terrorist group IG and Kurdish units banned in Russia in Syria. Especially great losses in the armored vehicles of the Turkish Armed Forces suffered from shots of anti-tank complexes. At the end of the first half of the company, it was decided to equip tanks with active protection complexes.

Agreement on the supply of KAZ "Zaslon-L" Turkey and Ukraine concluded in 2017 year. The Ministry of Defense of Turkey said that the acquired complexes were originally intended for installation on tanks M60-А3 Sabra. In Turkey, the licensed production of the Ukrainian KAZ, which was called Pulat AKS (Aktif Koruma Sistemleri), was established.

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  1. -5
    9 November 2018 14: 34
    Well, now Turkish tanks will burn even better.
    1. +2
      9 November 2018 14: 39
      KAZ production is not trusted in Ukraine. And they’ll do it right, and even without money and without protection will remain.
    2. 0
      9 November 2018 14: 44
      Quote: NEXUS
      Well, now Turkish tanks will burn even better.

      We will see. Now it is already clear that Turkey has started to intensively "pump out" everything useful from Ukraine.
      And with regard to this KAZ, I have always adhered and adhere to the idea that in this form all existing KAZ, as well as the systems of "dynamic protection" - a dead-end path of development. They pose a threat to the life of their infantry, which will huddle under the protection of the tank's armor.
      1. +3
        9 November 2018 15: 16
        Quote: NEXUS
        Well, now Turkish tanks will burn even better.

        Why is it better if additional protection systems are installed on them, which the RA can only dream of. I myself am not a tanker, but served on the territory of the Kantemirovsk division at the turn of the century, just the 2nd Chechensaya was on fire. on fire and at the same time they knew about domestic KAZ and they dreamily projected that, they say, they would put KAZ on their eighty and how tactically it is possible to fight more courageously, the desire to sit in an armored corps will psychologically increase the desire to sit in an armored corps, if they adjust this stray. Eighteen years have passed and our tanks are still the same .And the Ukrainians ... you didn’t press in your post on the uselessness of the AZ itself /// it’s very worthwhile, very ///, but on "Made in Ukraine", so them in many industries have retained competencies which the Russian defense industry has never dreamed of in terms of technological performance, because. development and production were clearly divided, Schaub remove the load from the military-industrial complex of the RSFSR. Take the same firm "Artyom" --- foreign trade is going on and their own Vozd.Sily. supply in 110%, fortunately the name of the company works, the Soviet groundwork and the Slavic commercial vein
        1. 0
          9 November 2018 15: 18
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Take the same firm "Artyom" --- trade goes on and its own Voz.D. supply in 110%, fortunately the name of the company works, the Soviet groundwork and the Slavic oily vein

          A couple of questions:
          - how many of those air forces and how many are these equipment installed?
          1. +2
            9 November 2018 15: 33
            Quote: svp67
            A couple of questions:
            - how many of those air forces and how many are these equipment installed?

            Yes, even two dozen to the twelfth degree, it’s still easy to answer))). The answer is that they supply their Air Force fully, plus missiles are exported to the holders of Russian /// Soviet //// destroyers, here you and any Thumbo-Yumbovites and Indochina. There really was a good Shola, it was precisely there that the missiles were technologically calibrated that held off with dignity and dignity from the NATO Air Force. This is not to me, but I'm trying to really evaluate the capabilities of the enemy, and therefore the threat to myself. Before the Kursk arch, armor-fighting women of all branches of the army were given the memory of how to fight the beast. You think that if all Germans mujnin were printed in these memorials ___, then the fire-covered wolf of victory would roll faster. No.
            1. +1
              9 November 2018 15: 35
              Quote: Thunderbolt
              There really was a good Shola, t ..

              And don't remind me, the scandal with the attempt to export the engines and fillings of the "disposed" missiles from Russia to the Ukraine, was it connected with "Artem"?
              1. +1
                9 November 2018 15: 46
                Quote: svp67
                And don't remind me, the scandal with the attempt to export the engines and fillings of the "disposed" missiles from Russia to the Ukraine, was it connected with "Artem"?

                This is already commercial affairs, business, military ... In my brigade, the coolest car was in the backyard, and the second one was for the starley from the fuel and lubricants service))) I did not follow what "artyom" got, but I know exactly what they have a full cycle of missile production. Otherwise, many of the Air Force of the Youngonatists and Uraina herself would shudder, raise a rustle, but they do not worry, because. I assure you, Sergei, the Artyom firm, although it is vrazhinskaya now, but the attitude to the state order there is Soviet, and to foreign customers the regime of the largest heat head in the infrared body of the customer.
                1. 0
                  9 November 2018 15: 48
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  What "Artyom" got caught, I did not follow, but I know for sure that they have a full cycle of missile production.

                  There is only a question FROM WHAT? Where do the components come from?
                  Quote: Thunderbolt
                  firm "Artyom", although it is vrazhinskaya now, but the attitude to the state order there is Soviet

                  Only now the USSR has long been absent, like its Gosplan.
                  An aviation missile is a very complex complex, there is metal, gunpowder, electronics ... it’s not so easy to assemble in one place, and any change requires testing and evaluating the change in combat properties.
                  1. +1
                    9 November 2018 16: 20
                    Quote: svp67
                    Only now the USSR has long been absent, like its Gosplan.
                    An aviation missile is a very complex complex, there is metal, gunpowder, electronics ... it’s not so easy to assemble in one place, and any change requires testing and evaluating the change in combat properties

                    Exactly, it’s very charac- teristic that it looks on our engines for ships, on their power plants, or let’s right there correct the person in the subject, Nesus, he’s an expert on armaments. Stop bending off from the truth --- you are a tanist, our tanists they’re sitting in armor, but AZ, KAZ, if this is a prerogative of NATO volunteers, and our Rksy Vani without Kaz, then I’ll go to demolish the head of German tanks, sorry for my Russian, Sergey, but the bare tanks are anti-BMPT.T NATO, this is 41 - s year. And for some reason you are silent so as not to raise a panic, but that's enough, Comrade Commander!
                    1. -1
                      9 November 2018 16: 24
                      Quote: Thunderbolt
                      Sergey, but the bare tanks of the anti-BMPT.T NATO, this is the 41st year.

                      Who said they were "naked"? Not only that, now new ATGMs are entering the arena, which hit armored objects from above, and against them all existing KAZ are powerless.
                      And once again I remind you of my point of view that the current KAZ, built on the basis of the impact of the detonation of kinetic ammunition in the immediate vicinity of the armored object, is a dead end
                      1. 0
                        9 November 2018 16: 31
                        Sergey) KAZ is a desirable MOT function, if our Russians don’t have this ---- /// fight with highly effective charges ///. See for yourself that Kaz becomes an object of already more tactical embedding. Here.
        2. +2
          9 November 2018 15: 37
          Since the first Chechen and the second campaigns, the tanks of our Armed Forces have changed a lot, take my word for it, as well as their training and tactics, not to mention additional "options"
          1. 0
            14 November 2018 07: 47
            T 72 reincarnated in t 72?
      2. +6
        9 November 2018 17: 05
        Quote: svp67
        They pose a threat to the life of their infantry, which will huddle under the protection of the armor of the tank.

        If you believe, then this is the picture of how the poor infantry clinging to the tank armor! We have ... infantry escort tanks again? When "the infantry is pressing against the tank armor", then this is rather the exception than the rule! All the same, after all, the infantry has its own armor! If you watch videos from Syria, then the tanks there, as a rule, operate without the infantry "stuck" to the armor. Yes, and from the Israeli "adventures" in Lebanon, I remember the story of how the crew of the "Merkava" stayed in the tank for two weeks (?) So that the snipers would not shoot ... (the tank "represented" a checkpoint ...). means that the infantry did not accompany him! So faq to be afraid?
    3. +1
      9 November 2018 14: 54
      And due to the lack of a full-time KAZ on our tanks is even better?
    4. -1
      9 November 2018 15: 32
      It is necessary to explain to the Turks that they were mistaken with the choice of KAZ, or the Ukrainians simply greatly lost in price ... and the Turks were led. Although let them install Ukrainian products .... maybe it is for the better. Turkey is not our ally.
      1. +3
        9 November 2018 15: 37
        Quote: Alexey-74
        0
        I have to explain to the Turks

        Practice will show everything. While ordered 40 sets.
    5. 0
      9 November 2018 21: 16
      Quote: NEXUS
      Turkish tanks will burn even better

      Nuuu, how, development Microtek ...
  2. 0
    9 November 2018 14: 37
    Firstly, KAZ thing is not indisputable in itself, and secondly, did the Turks test the Ukrainian KAZ? Or they just took it on aliexpress, which is cheaper.
  3. +2
    9 November 2018 14: 37
    Erdogan would not quarrel with Israel; long ago, KAZ would have been tested in battle on its tanks.
    1. +3
      9 November 2018 14: 45
      Quote: professor

      Erdogan would not quarrel with Israel; long ago, KAZ would have been tested in battle on its tanks.

      Your hat can’t beat off a pair start-up, just like the Ukrainian one. True, the Ukrainian sensors are weaker, but it does not glow in the radio range at 500 km, like some have.
      1. +1
        9 November 2018 14: 57
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Your hat can’t beat off a pair start-up, just like the Ukrainian one. True, the Ukrainian sensors are weaker, but it does not glow in the radio range at 500 km, like some have.

        Can yours? Do you have a hat, CEP?
        1. +2
          9 November 2018 15: 02
          Quote: professor
          Can yours be?

          No. The debris gives light - bastards are.
    2. +1
      9 November 2018 15: 03
      The price decides everything
      1. +1
        9 November 2018 15: 34
        Quote: Yodzakura
        The price decides everything

        And running speed - God forbid, a guide with such nonsense will come close to you.
        1. 0
          9 November 2018 16: 28
          Are we already on you? from anger
          1. +2
            9 November 2018 16: 33
            Quote: Yodzakura

            Are we already on you? from anger

            I didn’t mean you specifically. Take it easy. Nerve cells are not restored.
    3. +1
      9 November 2018 16: 06
      Quote: professor
      Erdogan would not quarrel with Israel -

      Erdogan is still slow-witted and the extremely illiterate part of Turkey voted for him. Although Turkey is a multi-polar country according to political views. But so far, veruns prevail there and the ratio of 60% of veruns to 40% is normal. These are impressions from the words of a cousin cat. lives and studies there.
      Well, some are very illiterate there, they don't even know that Mahmoud Abbas recognized the Armenian genocide in absentia. And Israel does not recognize it only thanks to Azerbaijan. But if Azerbaijan starts to defend Israel in the Turkish-speaking segment of the Internet, then they immediately start but what about the brothers " ". And even our Russians are called they say you are atheists because you lived in the USSR))) Probably you, some Jews from the USSR, are also familiar with these words. That's why for me a religious person a priori id..t, a cat. on the other hand, there is no perception of reality that occurs in nature and the world.
      I was very surprised that most of the Turks do not know what the periodic table is. And this is not said by someone, but by a professor, academician of Turkey, an honorary member of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Academy of Sciences of the United States and many others. If there are religious studies faculties in one country, then big problems with education. It is a pity for a very hardworking people, unlike many post-Soviet people.
  4. -1
    9 November 2018 14: 39
    Even in the USSR they refused such a scheme, sort of ...
    1. +5
      9 November 2018 16: 40
      Quote: Simargl

      Even in the USSR they refused such a scheme, like ..

      In the USSR, this "scheme" was called "Rain"
      In the USSR, the military did not like this KAZ ... But in Ukraine the device was brought to a state suitable for use. KAZ "Zaslon" - the further development of "Rain".
      By the way, the first tank KAZ was developed in 1958 (KAZ "Porcupine")
      1. +1
        9 November 2018 17: 47
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        By the way, the first tank KAZ was developed in 1958.
        This is if against low speed (ATGM, cumul). Anti-personnel even on the Tigers set.
  5. +1
    9 November 2018 14: 49
    Will there be a contract for 5 years? Ukraine can stretch by 10. everything is captured. Just not an option that they will deliver. Someone will be fired, shot — it’s not my fault, I have come.

  6. +2
    9 November 2018 14: 52
    "Barrier", of course, is not the best option, but the Turks do not have to choose. Nobody sells their smart designs.
  7. +4
    9 November 2018 14: 59
    Her fragments retain lethal force at a distance of up to 100 meters, such KAZs pose a threat to their own infantry and attached equipment of their own and neighboring tanks.
    1. +3
      9 November 2018 19: 58
      Modern MBTs and so operate separately from the infantry.
      A simple shot from a 120mm NATO / 125mm Soviet gun already threatens the health of everyone around.
  8. +3
    9 November 2018 15: 01
    Pulat AKS is a licensed copy of the Ukrainian active defense systems (KAZ) "Shershen", aka "Zaslon-L".
    https://24tv.ua/ru/zloj_odessit_tag4974
  9. 0
    9 November 2018 15: 10
    "..... At the same time, the publication indicates that KAZ Pulat AKS (Aktif Koruma Sistemleri) is a licensed copy of the Ukrainian KAZ" Zaslon-L ", developed by the Kiev state enterprise BTSKT" Mikrotek "......"
    ======
    "Inspired" ... Once upon a time, a long time ago ... During the years of my "foggy childhood" we (in the lower grades) had the following anecdote:
    Camp "Artek" ... 2 little boys (Russian and American) started an argument:
    American:
    - And you do not have enough bread!
    Russian:
    - And you have blacks!
    -And you - sausages - no !!!
    - And you - blacks "lynched" !!
    - And you ... And you! .... And we will steal Brezhnev from you !!!!!
    - Uhhh ... Well then, you don’t have either bread or sausages - WILL NOT !!!
    ---------------
    Question: What does this children's anecdote have to do with the KAZ "Zaslon-L" .... Yes, THE FIRST DIRECT !!!!! laughing
    1. +2
      9 November 2018 15: 42
      You had a shitty childhood)) This joke explains a lot about the current situation. If the children in the children’s camp were thinking about sausage, bread. About America where the blacks are beaten, and Brezhnev is what I pass. When I was small I thought about the radio-controlled car, about the great, the prefix I received from my parents, though not immediately. I was interested in football and was a movie fan. But to think about the leader Aliyev about the Musavatists America is not fired. And in the kindergarten, the school I thought where the teachers would take us to the botanical garden, Yesenin’s house, museum or circus. The trip needs parents to call and thank them.
  10. +1
    9 November 2018 15: 15
    Ukrainians are not asleep, well done. But I would not give Islam weapons, especially modern ones.
    1. 0
      9 November 2018 17: 50
      Quote: Nile Euphrates
      But I wouldn’t give weapons to Islam
      Is this about the S-400?
      Barrier-L - modern?
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  11. +2
    9 November 2018 15: 39
    Here is another important detail - the Turks protect the analogue of our T-72B3 ..... and ours only showed protected from the sides with spaced armor and grille.
  12. 0
    9 November 2018 15: 57
    Hmm ... well, maybe it will burn out, it will be produced by the Turks, in their homeland, and not svidomites in the ruins of scheni. Defense has been developed in Ukraine, probably by the technicians of the SOVIET ENGINEERING SCHOOL (the best techno-military school in the world) - so what it is very difficult to find a reason for banter. unless the testimonials have sold the "crooked" documentation, this will become laughing
  13. -1
    9 November 2018 16: 10
    In their place, I would have taken up increasing the protection of Leo 2 and not this scrap metal, but their tanks are their business ...
    And as for the KAZ 404, I think the Turks want to finally (until it finally "died" and the general derban began) to get Soviet technologies at a cheap price and use them in the future in the same "Altai".
  14. +4
    9 November 2018 17: 29
    Let KAZ "Zaslon" - not "super"; but it is suitable for use (!) ... so what is it? In the "nonsuper" "Zaslon", attention is drawn to the simple configuration, and, hence, the ease of installation on combat vehicles. The lack of sophisticated radars with AFAR, a supercomputer and rotating "at all degrees" PU promises a relative cheapness ... so if the criterion "cost / efficiency" is in an acceptable range, then why should the Turks not get the "Barrier"? Well. , as a temporary measure ... how is the 1st stage KAZ?
  15. 0
    9 November 2018 18: 37
    It’s a pity Turkish tanks .. Although they did not perform any serious operations in their history ..
    But I think the Kurds will put the anti-tank systems corresponding to the State Department! Well, they always do business.!
    Someone will run into blood again ..
    1. +2
      9 November 2018 20: 08
      If you take the whole story, then the Turks fought well.
      If we take current contemporary history, then over the past 50 years no one has carried out full-scale operations against an equivalent opponent, but the Turks had plenty of regional conflicts (conflict with Greece, Kurds, participation in the Syrian war).
      America will not supply rebels with modern 3rd generation ATGMs.
  16. -1
    9 November 2018 18: 41
    The end to the Turks Right now, Ukrainians they impose protection complexes lol
  17. -2
    9 November 2018 20: 11
    Why is it so? They took the drawings and technologies, but decided to establish production at home ???
    1. +1
      10 November 2018 00: 40
      And so everyone wants. Hindus want to be at home, the Chinese share fraternally with all the technologies: what they get into their hands is immediately copied.
      And for what minus set? You can’t ask already? Tin.
  18. -1
    10 November 2018 05: 29
    Ukrainian complex ??? Well, brave guys are these Turks! ... Maybe they are fireproof?

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