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Macron voiced the agony of a united West

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The French president made a statement about the urgent need to create Europe’s own armed forces, independent of the United States, with the utmost clarity of their purpose: they "must protect Europe from China, Russia and even the United States."


Macron voiced the agony of a united West


The creation of an EU army has been talked about a lot and often in Europe lately, however, this was the first time this specifics came about. The young French president, directly stating the American threat to Europe, was the first to risk calling a spade a spade.

Recall that over the years the situation is not very pleasant for European allies. The Europeans, loyal to their allied duty, take the most direct part in the wars and conflicts organized by the USA - Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, suffer losses there and spend huge amounts of money.

And all this is solely for the sake of geopolitical, economic, and even domestic political interests of the United States, which, as it turns out, in these cases are directly opposed to European ones.



Thus, the war in Kosovo and the strikes on Yugoslavia led to the fact that European cities were flooded under the guise of refugees by Albanian mafiosi - drug dealers, pimps and just gangsters. The war in Afghanistan brought Afghan heroin to Europe, in the distribution of which the “active victims” of Milosevic took the most active part, and the main “gates” of his arrival were surprisingly under the control of the US Armed Forces airfields in Ramstein and Slatina, from which the main “air bridge” is carried out with Afghanistan.



The war in Libya, organized by the Americans and gracefully transferred by them to the shoulders of European allies, led to the fact that the barrier against the mass migration of Africans to the North, which Gaddafi held for many years, collapsed, and the flow of refugees rushed to the shores of Europe. And soon they were joined by immigrants from the Middle East, set on fire by the Americans with the participation of European allies. Much has been said about what Europe brings the migration crisis and what threats it carries, and we will not dwell on this.



Now, using NATO institutions and direct blackmail, the States are drawing their allies into an even more terrible, deadly for them confrontation with Russia. The fact that the jokes were over was really realized in Europe after Trump's statement about leaving the INF Treaty.

Washington’s move automatically turns Europe into a theater of potential missile warfare between the United States and Russia, diverting some of the Russian weapons from America itself. In Washington, in fact, they do not hide the fact that they intend to fight with Russia in the European theater of war mainly at the hands of the Europeans themselves. Additional confirmation of this is the folding or freezing by the Pentagon of programs to create new tanks and attack aircraft.



But the matter is not only in hypothetical risks (the war may not start), but also in the fact that the Americans are using the growing confrontation for the final enslavement of Europe, both economic and political. Washington now dictates to Europeans with whom to trade, what to buy, how much and what to spend and even how to live in their own countries.

Actually, it did not start yesterday. As we know, many European leaders have taken steps to counter American dictatorship and uphold the sovereignty of their countries, knowing full well the role of NATO in enslaving European powers. No wonder the great Frenchman Charles de Gaulle, who sought to maintain the prestige of France as a great power, to its independence in solving major issues of European and world politics, in 1966 refused to transfer the French military to the control of the unit and deploy military bases of NATO on French territory of France, arguing that it was unwilling be under the control of the US military.



And in the same year he achieved the country's withdrawal from the military organization of NATO. (In 2009, Nicolas Sarkozy, who has a well-deserved nickname "Washington Poodle," fully restored France's membership in NATO).

The American bridle on Europe is multi-layered and intricate. It includes everything: a system of official and secret treaties, economic ties, the presence of numerous compromising materials on the first persons of European politics, the initiation of a political, economic, intellectual elite in secret societies and closed clubs, and much more.

However, Trump himself weakened this bridle, cutting off two of its important components, firstly, speaking against the basic economic principles of globalization, and secondly, actually abandoning the concept of the “golden billion”, making it clear that from now on, only Americans are “exceptional”, and their “election” to Europe does not apply.



Thus, the current American chapter has brought down the very basis of American domination in Europe, which can now only be ensured through open coercion and blackmail. Even the most pro-American part of the European elite has very dark expectations today. They are well aware that the world order and Western unity completely destroyed by Trump (based on American leadership) will not, of course, recover and even grow together with his departure. And to restore at its own expense a system in which the decrepit United States again finds itself at the top, in Europe there are no people who want it.

In light of this, the United States in the list of threats cited by Macron seems to be the most real threat. Although it is extremely difficult to imagine the possibility of a US war with Europe or even military pressure from America today, the contradictions between Brussels and Washington, above all on an economic plan, are much deeper and more serious than with Moscow, and even more so with Beijing.

Macron is well aware that without the US participation the war of Europeans with China or even with Russia is even more unthinkable than with America, and included China and the Russian Federation in the list of threats, one might say, out of politeness. In order to somewhat soften the anti-American pathos of his speech.

Europe really needs its own army. After all, in addition to imaginary and hypothetical threats, it also has quite real ones. The main one is the migratory onslaught, bearing without exaggeration the danger to the very existence of European civilization. Activities undertaken by the NATO Navy in the Mediterranean are clearly insufficient to stop this flow; missions on the African shores of the Mediterranean are likely to be necessary.



And since the threat is the same for most countries of old Europe, it’s better to solve it, and, most importantly, cheaper, together. Within NATO, this does not work: the North Atlantic Alliance is "sharpened" solely on the solution of American, not European, tasks.

For example, the “United Trident” exercises held in Norway, for which the Federal Republic of Germany deployed 8000 soldiers, participated, identified an acute shortage of not only weapons, but also equipment and equipment, which literally had to be assembled on the bottom of the barrel. The command of the Bundeswehr did not hide the reasons for such a deplorable state of affairs in the army of the most powerful country in Europe. Its forces are literally “racked out” by participation in numerous international missions, that is, American military adventures, which bear nothing to the Germans except losses and expenses.



So, the ambitious Macron, clearly striving for a leading position among the top leaders of Europe, challenging the States, and at the same time “Young Europeans” like Poles and Lithuanians, means not only his personal position, but rightly hopes for the support of a number of European colleagues. Most likely, his demarche was coordinated with the leaders of the main EU states, who, perhaps, instructed him as the youngest to challenge Uncle Sam.

Now, after his speech, the ball is on the side of the United States, and in any case they need to somehow react. To soften the situation and stop or at least freeze the growing crisis, Trump and his team need to show the wonders of a political balancing act for which they are clearly incapable. The aggressive reaction to the statement of the French president will further complicate the situation for the Americans. Some actions against Macron personally do not make much sense either, since he is only the spokesman of the underlying processes.

The current situation is extremely favorable for us, if only because the “divorce” of the USA and Europe most likely removes from the agenda the already distinct threat of a new world war.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 9 November 2018 13: 15
    +14
    It’s too late to drink Borjomi if the kidneys are refused .. As I see it, Europe is no longer able to get out of US control. And the US will not allow them to organize their army. Junker spoke about the creation of the European army about 5 years ago, but this does not go beyond talking. The European elite is under the control of the United States and their economic interests intersect strongly, to this can be added the US military bases in Europe. Yes, and there is no unity in the same Europe, the USA is very competent there rule ... divide and rule .. For this reason, Europe understands everything correctly, they must die for the interests of the USA .. Their only way to salvation was, unification with Russia, from Lisbon to Vladivostok, this is what Putin once proposed to them .. But even this peace-loving initiative, which is very beneficial for everyone, did not have enough will in Europe .. What can we say about their army, they will not allow them. And then, if such an army really exists, it will mean the collapse of American hegemony, and hence the dollar ..
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 9 November 2018 13: 24
      +6
      Quote: Svarog
      Their only way to salvation was, unification with Russia,

      Oh, they’re unlikely to be hunting!
      But Macron in the role of leader of the geyropa, at all fun!
      Again I would like to sing / write about the clowns, but I’m afraid I will be knocked again, they will click and I will not!
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 9 November 2018 13: 35
        +9
        Quote: rocket757
        But Macron in the role of leader of the geyropa, at all fun!
        Again I would like to sing / write about the clowns, but I’m afraid I will be knocked again, they will click and I will not!

        That’s why in Europe there are no strong, serious politicians because America is not needed ... but macrons, just right ..
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 9 November 2018 13: 40
          +3
          Quote: Svarog
          but macrons, just right ..

          How Tram stroked it! He drove for a finger! The picture was funny!
          1. Logall
            Logall 9 November 2018 13: 52
            +4
            The symbol of freedom-loving France is a rooster, so Macron is "crowing"!
        2. Machito
          Machito 9 November 2018 14: 51
          0
          I hope the GDP at a meeting in Paris will succeed in knocking down another wedge between sworn friends.
      2. Semen1972
        Semen1972 9 November 2018 16: 39
        -1
        Quote: rocket757
        Oh, they’re unlikely to be hunting!

        Why? Intrigued right.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 9 November 2018 18: 29
          -1
          For geyropeytsev, play games with Russia, such as friends forever ???
          Such a statement for any of their leader, nonsense! And they can even beat it off.
          The question is, what's the intrigue? Everything is straight, like a perpendicular.
    2. Detective
      Detective 9 November 2018 13: 58
      +3
      Why should they create an army ?! Let the USA simply exclude all business from NATO!
      True, the army is an expensive business ... So you have to fork out! Previously, sovereignty paid for security! Well, in the sense that once not ... this one if, what! Although this "problem" for Europeans is now more likely not a punishment, but a national zest ... And now, if you have already decided to be with sovereignty and with zest, you will have to pay! Tighten the belts. Minimize social programs. To spend money ... This is what I can say for sure the Arab - Turkish - African - Albanian population of the EU will not like it sooooo much ...
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 9 November 2018 16: 41
        0
        Quote: Detective
        Why should they create an army ?! Let the USA simply exclude all business from NATO!

        And we slam them))) And we will give their enterprises to our friends Himself !!!
        1. meandr51
          meandr51 13 November 2018 14: 58
          0
          Well yes. Russia is sleeping and sees how to slam Europe. This is such a value ... One Eiffel tower is worth ...
          That's just the story has not yet been completely rewritten, and there is exactly the opposite trend.
    3. tracer
      tracer 9 November 2018 14: 19
      +7
      Happened and happens to communicate with those on whom the political course of America itself depends. Not directly, of course, but it is this layer of society that determines it. I recently recorded an almost friendly relationship with the main coordinator of the Michigan Republican Party. By the way, I congratulated him on the victory of the Republicans in the Parliament. So you understand, from the experience of communicating with this public I can say this. See "we" to them, we are proposing something, or trying to offer, agree, find compromises. So all our politicians need to understand one simple thing. We are for them "no one and no way to call us." They are simply disgusted with us. I don’t think that the European establishment is any different from the American one. All these nice and intelligent people with a good education and very interesting in conversation hate us wildly, or at best they "do not care". I emphasize at best. Any relationship they consider the skull of masters and slaves while the mantra of all-conquering democracy is required. Is it trite? I also thought so at first, until I was convinced of this myself. This audience recognizes only strength and fear, all other contracts and negotiations with them are all the same, what is trying to win against the sharler in his own game.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 9 November 2018 14: 40
        +1
        Quote: tracer
        Happened and happens to communicate with those on whom the political course of America itself depends. Not directly, of course, but it is this layer of society that determines it. I recently recorded an almost friendly relationship with the main coordinator of the Michigan Republican Party. By the way, I congratulated him on the victory of the Republicans in the Parliament. So you understand, from the experience of communicating with this public I can say this. See "we" to them, we are proposing something, or trying to offer, agree, find compromises. So all our politicians need to understand one simple thing. We are for them "no one and no way to call us." They are simply disgusted with us. I don’t think that the European establishment is any different from the American one. All these nice and intelligent people with a good education and very interesting in conversation hate us wildly, or at best they "do not care". I emphasize at best. Any relationship they consider the skull of masters and slaves while the mantra of all-conquering democracy is required. Is it trite? I also thought so at first, until I was convinced of this myself. This audience recognizes only strength and fear, all other contracts and negotiations with them are all the same, what is trying to win against the sharler in his own game.

        Well, since they have condescended to communicate with one of the VO website visitors, it means that in their attitude towards us, not everything is so bad and hopeless laughing In general, the elite is the same everywhere and acutely feels threatened. Even now, the European elite has realized that the real American threat looming over it in the sense of "concern" significantly exceeds the virtual Russian threat. Hence these attempts, through a declaration of intent, to put pressure on the United States in order to reduce the degree of tension, they say, let's roll the situation back at least five years.
        1. tracer
          tracer 9 November 2018 16: 57
          -1
          Thank you, but their revelations are due to the fact that my accent is being confused with French. And with the French "you can." As it turned out a couple of times by chance that I was Russian, I was surprised .... For them, we are stupid barbarians and nothing more.
          1. Timeout
            Timeout 13 November 2018 01: 27
            -1
            Quote: tracer
            that my accent is confused with French.

            Russian accent does not look like French. Russians are calculated by emphasis on times. To acquire a French accent to Russian, one must have an innate burr. Again, the goal at the tracer is in the wrong gate ...
            1. tracer
              tracer 13 November 2018 16: 55
              -1
              I think that you are posting. Do not you teach me the language. Especially since the features of his differences in accents.
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        3. meandr51
          meandr51 13 November 2018 15: 01
          0
          They communicate with some blacks in Africa. For fun, variety and information. Personal relationships and official politics are two different things.
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 9 November 2018 14: 48
        +1
        Concerning the shuller, the conclusion is simple and has long been taken into account by all, except for our goat-gooftons, which is very unpleasant, sitting very high.
        Most of the people remember and understand about Nikit Sergeyev and his kuz'kin mother, too, then the striped ones managed to the very nostrils!
        If it were not for the manic desire of our libertarian-zotta and tolstopuzov, to join the "friendly" family of foreign rulers of their thoughts, we have long ago rolled out something similar to that old one from Kuzka's mother under their nose!
        I’m sure that they haven’t forgotten how to do it completely, or quickly remembered what it is .....
      3. Machito
        Machito 9 November 2018 14: 53
        0
        So you need to scare them so that the diapers do not have time to change.
        1. meandr51
          meandr51 13 November 2018 15: 03
          0
          Here are our military cartoons and show! But it does not work well ...
      4. faterdom
        faterdom 9 November 2018 15: 45
        0
        We are not them! They are not us!
      5. Timeout
        Timeout 13 November 2018 01: 24
        0
        Quote: tracer
        Recently, he recorded almost friendly relations with the chief coordinator of the Republican Party of Michigan.

        Again Ostap suffered .... Tracer, the Republicans have no party coordinators, there are official representatives (chairman, vice-chairmen and congressmen) who are appointed in elected order. Now in Michigan, Ron Weisser is the chairman, so again it's a lie. Who else did you record as friends there? It seems Morgan Freeman, who swears in private conversations in love for Russia.
    4. Maksus
      Maksus 9 November 2018 19: 38
      +3
      The last time I was in Paris, I was very surprised to find the Champs Elysees closed and a bunch of cops in full combat. It turned out that the Palestinians were on strike. Palestinians. In Paris. On strike. Know comments.
      1. Warrior2015
        Warrior2015 10 November 2018 01: 43
        +2
        Quote: Maksus
        It turned out that the Palestinians were on strike. Palestinians. In Paris. Are on strike. Know comments.

        What to do, it is the modern French who have always distinguished themselves with a very great love for people from the Arab world - for which they are now paying.
  2. Masya masya
    Masya masya 9 November 2018 13: 27
    +10
    oh, Macron’s neck will break, when trying to remove the American reins in Europe, multi-level and intricate ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 9 November 2018 13: 43
      +1
      Who will understand her, the American bridle? Can she be like an orthopedic "scarf"?
      Support, tweak! In vain did Sholey trump like Macron wail / stroke?
    2. Machito
      Machito 9 November 2018 14: 54
      0
      The USSR also seemed a giant.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 9 November 2018 19: 43
        +3
        The union did not seem, it was them! Only again betrayed by the near and envious elite with our tacit connivance.
    3. NordUral
      NordUral 9 November 2018 19: 41
      +2
      Masya Masya!
      You can’t imagine what a person is capable of, who finally realized that he has no other choice.
      Jean Reno

      I think that this idea is very relevant to the situation in Europe.
  3. Snail N9
    Snail N9 9 November 2018 13: 31
    +3
    I did not see "agony" .... quite a routine problem of any modern "union", of any country ... request
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 9 November 2018 16: 48
      0
      Quote: Snail N9
      Didn't see "agony"

      What???? Death to the West, US bankrupt, Japan on the verge of economic collapse ... And this is not a defeat for you from the West before the genius of Putin ???
      1. Warrior2015
        Warrior2015 10 November 2018 01: 45
        0
        Quote: Semen1972
        West to death, US bankrupt, Japan on the verge of economic collapse.

        Mdja, I might have heard, but it seems like these words have already been said - 40 years ago at party meetings and rallies ...

        We would get into such an economic collapse as in Japan ...
  4. Detnix
    Detnix 9 November 2018 13: 32
    +2
    The dumb unambiguity of the article is designed for our patriots. Many geyropeyskie elites really can not be satisfied with the concept carried out by the clans behind Trump, as is part of the American establishment. But, the performance of all kinds of macrons is more like creating the conditions for negotiations and trade, under the new mutually acceptable conditions of symbiosis, rather than agony. Although serious problems cannot be ruled out, any system at the time of its restructuring is so vulnerable.
  5. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 9 November 2018 13: 33
    +3
    Well, where are the words of Macron? In analytical articles, it is customary to indicate the source or give direct quotes. Editorial minus.
  6. Vinnibuh
    Vinnibuh 9 November 2018 13: 42
    0
    Poor pasta, Comrade Sukhov called the other his beloved wife, hey, yes! ))))
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 9 November 2018 13: 44
    +2
    It’s interesting, but how does this kid imagine that? And then what to do with NATO? As he imagines removing the striped from Oyropa, this is not appendicitis, a scalpel will not help. Yes, striped just multiply it by zero, and that's it.
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 9 November 2018 19: 49
      0
      This may be true, but 5 years ago such statements were in the realm of fiction. So Europe is changing fast.
  8. HAM
    HAM 9 November 2018 13: 58
    +2
    If this continues, then Macron risks either "raping" the maid or getting a little ill with a disastrous outcome ... Although clowns live a long time ..
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 9 November 2018 14: 21
    +2
    An attempt to drag VO into the political mythmaking of the state. channels. There are no significant disagreements among the enemies of Russia, there is simply a "grateful" "dream" of the irrepressible author.
  10. Ivan.A
    Ivan.A 9 November 2018 14: 22
    +2
    Quote: Masya Masya
    oh, Macron’s neck will break, when trying to remove the American reins in Europe, multi-level and intricate ...

    Exactly! Just like at the time, de Gaulle was broken.
  11. wax
    wax 9 November 2018 15: 09
    0
    Macronich whispered to young Macron. that the place occupied in Europe by Grandma Merkel will soon become vacant.
  12. kriten
    kriten 9 November 2018 15: 15
    0
    Balabol and cheap stuff. His words and attention should not be paid.
  13. Berkut24
    Berkut24 9 November 2018 15: 15
    0
    Against the main threats to Europe, the army that is united, that separate is absolutely useless. Politicians live today. For a conflict with Russia, they get a career and doing nothing. For the fight against drug trafficking, emigrants, transnational companies, corruption and ideological sabotage such as tolerance, Western politicians will get only hemorrhoids on their own heads and problems on their asses - they will drag them in the courts and take away their money and cut off their careers. Therefore, the collective West is doomed to failure.
    You can not solve the problem of childbearing in a family raping a pig.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 9 November 2018 16: 46
      -1
      Quote: Berkut24
      Therefore, the collective West is doomed to failure.

      It's all clear that with hot water in the summer with us, bro?))))
  14. Antokha
    Antokha 9 November 2018 16: 26
    -1
    Macron is not a person, but a gaming head, so there is nothing even to listen to his words. These are momentary fluctuations in the course, which may have been conceived by someone, but not with any strategic goals. So, the noise. Even if Macron suddenly degenerated into de Gaulle, it would take him years to explain to his people why he should stop being afraid of Russia and leave the United States. And he would not explain. People do not want to think about anything, they are tired of the flow of information, they do not believe anyone, and are busy with their short-term interests. They do not include the struggle with Russia, with the USA, with migrants (just to stay away from them). These people in the conversation repeat the news cliches, and even more so they do not want to make sacrifices, at least in the form of labor, for their choice. Only in our country can changes be possible due to pathological inequality, the innate desire of the people to think (although we have more than enough sheep), the history of invasions of total annihilation, and Christianity. But we will one day fall under the blows of the Antichrist. But probably the last.
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 9 November 2018 16: 43
      -1
      Quote: Anton
      why you need to stop being afraid of Russia and leave the USA

      Something we can not explain to Kiev so far)))
      1. Antokha
        Antokha 9 November 2018 16: 45
        0
        So we cannot explain much to ourselves, but we are less blinded than Ukraine or the well-fed West.
        1. Semen1972
          Semen1972 12 November 2018 09: 26
          0
          Quote: Anton
          and we are less blinded than Ukraine or the well-fed West.

          Of course, they do not have Kiselyov and Solovyov, who explains the truth. In this regard, we are lucky, no doubt.
  15. Semen1972
    Semen1972 9 November 2018 16: 50
    -2
    The idea of ​​a "decaying West" is known to us as a Russian invention (by the way, very old - usually the history of the term is derived from the article by the Russian panslavist Shevyryov as much as 1841 of the year - so it is already possible to estimate the degree of prediction). But in fact, looking closely, you can see that this idea is not a Russian invention, moreover, the concept of a “decrepit old European woman” is directly borrowed from the 19th century German philosophers, in particular, from Hegel. In Western thought in general, the idea that Western civilization is about to come to an end is quite old and widespread.
    1. Warrior2015
      Warrior2015 10 November 2018 01: 47
      0
      Quote: Semen1972
      The idea of ​​a "decaying West" is known to us as a Russian invention (by the way, very old - usually the history of the term is derived from the article by the Russian panslavist Shevyryov as much as 1841 of the year - so it is already possible to estimate the degree of prediction). But in fact, looking closely, you can see that this idea is not a Russian invention, moreover, the concept of a “decrepit old European woman” is directly borrowed from the 19th century German philosophers, in particular, from Hegel. In Western thought in general, the idea that Western civilization is about to come to an end is quite old and widespread.

      Dig deeper! Ideas about the collapse of "decaying Europe" - this is also the Roman Empire, the ancient Roman writers met (and it seems like very precisely - from Augustine the Blessed, who just lived in the 4th century).
  16. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 9 November 2018 18: 50
    0
    However, does Macron appear to have a military lobby? Do they want to cash in on the production of weapons?
  17. DimanC
    DimanC 9 November 2018 18: 52
    0
    Actually, Trump was brought in to rebuild the United States from governing the world. What he successfully does, pushing Europeans to knowingly unacceptable conditions.
  18. NordUral
    NordUral 9 November 2018 19: 02
    0
    It is unlikely, but Europeans need to try. It will come out - we will still live, but no - the matter is dark and only our ability to destroy the States will save the world from a world war.
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  20. Ru_Na
    Ru_Na 9 November 2018 20: 59
    0
    Europe can scream at any rate about a threat to its interests from the United States, but only in fact, screaming is all that today's Europe is capable of, Washington firmly holds the Old World in its hands periodically throwing them problems in the form of Ukraine, Kosovo and Middle Eastern migrants.
  21. NF68
    NF68 9 November 2018 21: 44
    0
    At the expense of the agony of the West, this is too much. Various problems in the West have always existed. And contradictions between many Western countries have also always been present.
  22. nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 November 2018 08: 44
    0
    Is the ball on America's side? We want to see what we want to see. After all, Macron "counted" us too. And I think that
    Trump silently praised Macron to himself, because he was so tired of the unruly Merkel. What I agree with
    author, Europe is losing a consensus on America.
  23. iouris
    iouris 10 November 2018 17: 47
    0
    In the absence of the USSR, Trump doesn't really need such a competitor as Europe, led by Gross-Germany. Macron helps him a little. For over a hundred years, the highest priority has been the Pacific region. For a hundred years they worked to remove from there "good old England" and everyone, everyone, everyone.
  24. Kapkan
    Kapkan 10 November 2018 19: 10
    0
    It’s interesting when they already understand that nothing will protect them from us in principe.
    1. iouris
      iouris 11 November 2018 13: 15
      0
      I wonder what will protect us, big lovers to step on the historical rake, from ourselves? The existence of Russia cannot be explained logically.
  25. Yujiko
    Yujiko 15 November 2018 03: 41
    0
    Can I refer to the proofs? Where did Macron make such a statement? And maybe this is for politeness, he added speaking of China and Russia, and not vice versa as the author claims. And did Macron clearly express the first few paragraphs of this article in his speech, or did the author himself for Macron draw such conclusions, conclusions that I would like to hear but have to think out, fantasize, wishful thinking?