Sturm Izhevsk

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100 years ago, in November 1918, the Red Army took Izhevsk and Votkinsk by storm. Izhevtsy and votkintsy retreat for Kama. Later they will fight with the Bolsheviks as part of the army of Kolchak.

Sturm Izhevsk



In the second half of October, 1918, the situation of the Izhevsk rebels became hopeless. They did not receive any assistance from the Samara Komuch, and then the Ufa Directory. Moreover, the White Army retreated. The internal reserves of the Izhevsk-Votkinsk army came to an end and there was no longer any hope for outside help. The Red Army, taking Samara and Kazan, pressed on all sides to the insurgent region. Izhevsk was cut off from possible allies and surrounded by large Red forces. During the fighting 23 - 28 of October, the Reds captured the pier of the Minnows, completely surrounding the area of ​​the uprising.

Attempts to counterattack 17 and October 18 were unsuccessful. In the current critical situation of October 20, at a joint meeting of senior army officials and the commander of the Prikamsky army, DI Fedichkin raised the question of the possibility of abandoning factories and the need for advance preparation for evacuation for Kama. He noted that it was necessary as long as it was possible to evacuate women and children and valuable property in the next few days. In a week, Izhevsk residents will not have a single cartridge and projectile and "we will have to run from Izhevsk naked on the ice across the Kama River." As subsequent events showed, from a military point of view, this was the right decision. In response to strong objections from the civilian government, he defiantly resigned. This led to a serious crisis of power - up to the flight of the civilian government to Votkinsk for fear of a military coup in Izhevsk. In order not to bring further discord to the troops, Fedichkin departed for Ufa on the same day. A socialist, commander of the Votkinsk army, G. N. Yuriev, was appointed in his place. The command of the Izhevsk units was transferred to the captain Zhuravlev. After a few days, having calmed down, the members of the Prikamsky KOMUCHA returned to Izhevsk. They even held a rally with hot calls to save the plants from being captured by the Reds and even about the readiness of a campaign against Moscow. True, how to do it without shells and cartridges, not reported.


Group picture of members of Izhevsk Workers', Soldiers' and Peasants' Council and deputies. In the center, in uniform - the commander of the People's Army, Colonel Fedichkin

On November 3, 1918, the commander of the 2nd Army Shorin signed an order to advance on Izhevsk. According to the plan, the Special Vyatka Division was to launch a demonstrative offensive on Votkinsk in order to hold down the forces of the Votkinsk enemy group. The task of hindering the attempts of the Votkinsk army to come to the aid of Izhevsk was also assigned to the Poltava regiment, which blocked the Golyansk tract and the Votkinsk-Izhevsk railway. Volga’s ships supported him from Kama. flotilla. Actually, the capture of Izhevsk was assigned to the 2nd Combined Division of Azin, which was supposed to advance in a southerly direction.


Map source: http://izhlife.ru/

The Azin division's attack on Izhevsk began on November 5. The next day, the units of the 2 Division approached Zavyalovo and Pirogovo and began artillery preparation. In this case, the guns fired only on the outskirts, so as not to destroy the plant and the dam. Fights 5 - November 7 for Izhevsk were extremely stubborn. Both sides suffered heavy losses. The lack of ammunition became fatal for the rebels, it was necessary to save ammunition in case of emergency, and more and more often to go in bayonet attacks. All the workers, according to the established order, wherever they were, were armed. Due to the alarm roar of the factory horn, everyone immediately ran to the assembly points of their mouths. Orders came from headquarters, and companies quickly went to the attacked points. Thousands of workers participated in repelling strong attacks. Izhevtsy, due to a lack of cartridges, used the so-called. mental attacks. Chains of fighters went on the attack step with rifles at the ready, but without shots. Along with the attackers, several harmonists were walking, a factory whistle roared, and the bells of the Mikhailovsky Cathedral were beaten. Approaching the positions of the Reds, the rebels entered hand-to-hand combat using bayonets and knives. 2 th Muslim regiment fled from the battlefield, leaving the position, leaving the enemy battery, machine guns and other material part. During the flight, the soldiers looted the regimental train (for the disgraceful and criminal behavior of the regiment disbanded). Only the personal intervention of the division commander Azin, who led the counterattack, returned the soldiers to the position.


Diorama from Izhevsk city museum, where the Reds are preparing to repel the insurgent psychic attack

Izhevtsy suffered heavy losses (up to one and a half thousand people were killed) and in the evening of November 6, leaving the leading positions, retreated to the rear positions, right at the plant. The Votkinsk army tried to help Izhevsk, but the votkintsy, who were fighting for the city, were drawn into battles with the 1 Soviet regiment that occupied the Minnows, and did not have time to go, the Red Army was given the order to take Izhevsk on November NN at any cost. In the morning, the artillery preparation began and the device passes into the wire obstacles. By 7 hours, the red troops went to the assault. In the evening, the southern front was broken, an armored train “Free Russia” broke into the station Izhevsk and with its fire brought a strong disorder into the ranks of the whites. Red cavalry followed the infantry into the city. However, the upland part of the city remained in the hands of the rebels, while the one on the river bank was occupied by Azin's cavalry. In the evening of November 12, Azin sent a telegram about the capture of Izhevsk to Moscow. At night, the fighting was suspended.

Further resistance was meaningless and led to great sacrifices among the population of the city; an order was given to leave the plant. Izhevsk citizens, both fighters and most of their families, left their places of origin. The supply was small, most went on foot - the city left thousands of people to 15, including 10 thousands of men (according to other sources, thousands of people to 40). Izhevsk garrison retreated to Votkinsk. November 8 Reds occupied the whole city. 2-I army began to move to Votkinsk. Immediately after the capture of the city by the Reds, a significant number of participants in the uprising were shot. Different numbers are called - from several tens to several hundred rebels. Later, executions were carried out in Votkinsk.

Sturm Izhevsk

Izhevsk Council Newspaper, published during the uprising

Defeat uprising

The meeting of the civil and military authorities on November 8 concluded that the battle had been lost. Beat off Izhevsk no forces; there will be no outside help; and the further defense of Votkinsk in the northern and eastern approaches to the city, in conditions of complete exhaustion of the possibilities for resistance in the south, becomes unpromising. That it is necessary to retreat to the other side of the Kama (that is, the correctness of the former Commander of the Kama Region Army Fedichkin was recognized). As a result, an order was issued on the construction of a pontoon bridge under the leadership of the captain 2 of the Vologdin rank and the beginning of an emergency evacuation of the army and the population on the left bank of the Kama. However, this decision was clearly delayed, which did not allow everyone to evacuate.

The Votkinsk army was given the task of conducting stubborn defense in order to carry out a systematic evacuation of hospitals, to enable the population of Votkinsk and its environs, who do not want to stay with the Bolsheviks, leave for Kama and give Izhevsk people time to approach the crossing. Izhevsk, retreating along the railroad to Votkinsk, was ordered to go to the crossing by the shortest route, having a strong barrier in the direction of the pier Golyany. The red troops that had occupied Izhevsk were so exhausted by the battles that initially only the forward detachments followed the retreating Izhevsk. This hitch of red allowed the rebels to evacuate the combat-ready core of the army.

The Reds, having discovered preparations for the evacuation of the city, increased the onslaught. 11 - 12 November took place in heavy fighting. In the night from 12 to 13 in November, the rebel barriers put forward along the railroad and the Izhevsk-Votkinsk road were brought down. Their rearguards retreated through the eastern part of the city to the crossing. After a short assault, Votkinsk fell. The systematic withdrawal turned into an indiscriminate flight: according to various sources, by November 14 people were able to cross the river from 16 to 30 thousand Izhevsk residents (of which about 10 thousands of combat-ready men) and from 30 to 45 thousands of Votkintsians (of which up to 15 thousand). fighters). To prevent the 15 from crossing the ferry in red, the bridge over the Kama River was burned in November. Part of Izhevsk, who did not have time to break through to the bridge, was destroyed or captured. Separate rebel groups (mostly retreating from Izhevsk) did not have time to cross over and continued to resist at the turn of the Siva River for another two weeks. Their remains crossed the Kama after the ice cover was established on the river at the end of November. Izhevtsy took with them several thousand rifles. Votkintsy, along with hospitals and families, evacuated the plant’s management and took away some electric cars, which made the plant inoperative for a long time.



The crew of the red armored train "Free Russia"

Results

The white movement has lost the opportunity to use the potential of the Izhevsk plant, which produced up to one third of all small weaponsproduced in Russia. These plants went into the hands of red. However, since most of the workers left the city, the production of rifles at the Izhevsk plant was sharply reduced. Only by January, 1919 managed to bring it to 1000 units per day, which was more than twice less than the previous production volume.

Izhevsk-Votkinsk uprising (August 7-14 November 1918) ended in defeat. It was initially doomed to defeat (like the entire White movement). Izhevsk and Votkinsk people created a “state within a state” - with their territory and population, with their industry (Izhevsk and Votkinsk plants) and the agrarian base, with their government (Prikamsky KOMUchem) and local governments (Soviets), with their quite efficient armed forces (Izhevsk and Votkinsk Folk armies). However, the Kama Region Republic was not supported by the white governments of Samara and Ufa. Having recovered from the first setbacks, the Red Army regrouped and re-established the 2 Army, launched an offensive and defeated the rebels.

At the same time, the uprising distracted the large forces of the Reds (2 and 3 armies), which provided significant assistance to the White Army. If the white governments in Samara and Ufa established interaction with the Izhevsk people, supported them with troops and ammunition, the rebels could have held out longer and expanded the area of ​​the uprising. However, the White and Czechoslovakians, bound by the interests of the Entente, chose an erroneous strategy, trying to break through in the Permian-Vyatka direction, not paying attention to other promising directions.

After retreat for r. Kama votkintsy and Izhevtsy took up positions along the left bank. Then the commander of Izhevsk Zhuravlev led his subordinate brigade to the Ufa Corps area. With the departure of the people of Izhevsk to the Ufa Corps, their struggle with the Reds, together with the Votkinskians, temporarily broke up: the first fought in the ranks of the Western (later 3) army, and the second in the Siberian (later 2) Siberian army. Only in Transbaikalia, the rows of Izhevsk and Votkinskians, thinned out in regiments, thinned out in heavy marches, met again at the end of 1920. The remnants of the division retreated to Manchuria, then moved to Primorye. By the spring of 1921 Izhevtsy and Votkinsk there were 1506 people, including 231 officer. Izhevsk-Votkinsk brigade in November - December 1921 of the year fought in the area of ​​Spassk, Khabarovsk, in December - February fought at the station. Volochaevka. 27-28 February 1922, the Izhevsk-Votkinsk brigade took the last battle at st. Bikin, then went to Primorye under the protection of the Japanese. The remains of Izhevsk and Votkinsk residents remained in Primorye until October 1922. Having suffered a final defeat at Spassk, they crossed the Chinese border and were interned by local authorities. Some of them returned to Soviet Russia, some went to California, some remained in China and participated in the White Guard raids.


Votkinsk battery of the 2 Infantry Artillery Division. Primorye, 1922 year
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  1. +9
    9 November 2018 05: 29
    I feel nothing but bitterness reading this article ... a fratricidal war. recourse
  2. -6
    9 November 2018 06: 58
    1
    00 years ago, in November 1918, the Red Army stormed Izhevsk and Votkinsk.

    Allies these days stormed the position of the German aggressor in the last battles of the Great War, and here they storm ... their city, not the aggressor .... and this was only the beginning of the war, which claimed our lives many times more than the Great War .
    And someone just a year ago promised peace to the soldiers tired of the war. What resulted in criminal violence against the will of the people ....
    The battles of November 5–7 for Izhevsk were extremely stubborn. Both sides suffered heavy losses. The lack of ammunition became fatal for the rebels, they had to save ammunition in case of emergency, and even more often go to bayonet attacks. All workers, in the established order, wherever they were, they were armed. On the alarming roar of the factory horn everyone immediately ran to the assembly points of their companies. Orders came from the headquarters, and the companies quickly headed for the attacked points. Thousands of workers took part in repelling strong attacks. Izhevtsy, due to lack of cartridges, used the so-called. mental attacks. Chains of fighters went on the attack in step with rifles at the ready, but without shots. Along with the attackers, several harmonists walked, the factory hoot roared, the bells of St. Michael's Cathedral sounded. Approaching the positions of the Reds, the rebels engaged in hand-to-hand combat, using bayonets and knives.

    Amazing, wonderful, courageous people: they worked and fought simultaneously, without cartridges, in mental attacks, defending their power. Real working class.
    Izhevsk Council Newspaper, published during the uprising

    And EVERY word in this newspaper is the holy truth
    1. +13
      9 November 2018 09: 04
      Andrey, it would be necessary to exert more tear, otherwise it does not penetrate. \
      And EVERY word in this newspaper is the holy truth

      Okay, in the newspaper "where everything is true" let's read about
      All workers, in the established order, wherever they were, were armed. By the alarming roar of the factory horn, everything immediately ran to the collection points of their mouths.

      So, the appeal in "Izhevsk defender" of September 30, 1918:
      The Izhevsk People’s Army mainly consists of Izhevsk workers — front-line soldiers who return home from a position, to a family where they forget their military duty, which is why our army is not stable enough, there are many cowardly cowards in its midst who not only flee from battlefields, but also some cowardly hide in their corners. Women! Your holy duty is to support the people's cause and save the lives of not only your own, but also your small children. If the Red Army broke into Izhevsk, they would kill the entire male population, your homes would be burned, you would be dishonored, and your children would be laughed at and abused. They will not disassemble the right and the guilty, they do not spare anything.
      Save yourself and Russia: send your husbands, fathers, brothers, defend Izhevsk and hold fast to positions, do not keep them in your corner. Sitting at home they will not save you and will not be saved themselves. Be citizens, call for the fulfillment of the duty of all men - this is your holy duty, this is your holy duty.

      Then either, in the newspaper "not everything is true", or "about wonderful, amazing men" they made a painful thought ...
      Otherwise, there would be no need for such appeals.
      From the collection "Izhevsk-Votkinsk uprising. 1918":
      The rebel newspapers had a bright political color and did not hide their political choice. They primarily served the cause of agitation.... The notices that were from time to time placed in the numbers of Izhevsk Defender say a lot. Typed in big, catchy letters, they are fell into the eyes of factory workers and urban residents and created what they needed for acquaintance with other materials of release mood.

      Between "agitation with propaganda" and "truth" can you put an equal sign or an identity, Andrei? Feel free to say nothing.
      Here in the upper passage "truthfully" they wrote:
      If the Red Army broke into Izhevsk, they would kill the entire male population, your homes would be burned, you would be dishonored, and your children would be laughed at and abused. They will not take apart the right and the guilty, they will spare nothing
      The story happened, the Red Army in fact broke into Izhevsk. So what? The entire male population was killed, all houses burned, all women raped, and children abused? No.
      Which "every word is true", Andrey?
      1. -7
        9 November 2018 10: 24
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        Andrey, it would be necessary to exert more tear, otherwise it does not penetrate. \

        Good. But you won’t get anything.
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        Then either, in the newspaper "not everything is true", or "about wonderful, amazing men" they made a painful thought ...
        Otherwise, there would be no need for such appeals.

        nonsense: one complements the other.
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        From the collection "Izhevsk-Votkinsk uprising. 1918":
        The insurgents' newspapers had a bright political coloration and did not hide their political choices. First of all, they served the cause of agitation. The notices that were from time to time placed in the numbers of Izhevsk Defender say a lot. Typed in large, catchy letters, they first of all caught the eyes of the factory workers and city dwellers and created the mood they needed to get acquainted with other materials of the release.

        This is the goal of ANY newspaper: the brightest example is the Bolsheviks. In which not a word of truth, propaganda based on lies. In Izhevsk newspapers, truth-based propaganda.
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        Which "every word is true", Andrey?

        In the newspaper I mentioned, of course. No one can dispute this.
        1. +5
          9 November 2018 12: 46
          nonsense: one complements the other

          How is the information that ...
          our army is not stable enough, in its midst there are many cowards and cowards who not only run away from the battlefield, but also some cowardly hide in their corners. ... complements your odes to "the general desire in the ranks of the rebels to fight against the Red Movement" if one directly contradicts the other?
          And here's what they wrote in "White Cause. Chronicle of the White Struggle. Berlin, 1927, vol. 3" about these events:
          In the rebel army, instead of iron discipline and the striving of all forces to fight the Reds, the usual red propaganda began, with all its attributes. The death penalty has been abolished. The combat orders of the headquarters were discussed in soldier groups and were often not executed, especially in Sarapul. There was nothing to think about drill discipline. It is clear that after the first explosion of enthusiasm, cooling among workers and peasants began. Discipline began to fall, and the rear to decay.

          Perhaps this also confirms your words ...
          And here is from "Upovalov I. G. How We Lost Freedom. (From the Notes of a Worker Social-Democrat)":
          Yuriev gave the strictest order to prohibit the evacuation and flight of Izhevsk citizens from Izhevsk. Everyone who will be caught fleeing from Izhevsk must be shot. So did. He set up his Votkinsk workers around Izhevsk and ordered that everyone fleeing Izhevsk be shot on the spot.

          And this, without a doubt, confirms that "the workers are all as one ..."
          In the situation with Izhevsk everything happened exactly the same as in other similar cases - the initial rise is faced with the difficulties of protracted hostilities, with hardships, and people slowly begin to merge. This trickle of human resources is always there.
          1. +2
            10 November 2018 07: 09
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            How is the information that ...
            our army is not stable enough; among it there are many cowards and cowards who not only run away from the battlefield, but also some cowardly hide in their corners. ... complements your odes to "the general desire in the ranks of the rebels to fight against the Red Movement" if one directly contradicts the other?

            Directly: Order 227 did not in any way cancel "Get up, this is a huge country." Again, not clear?
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            Perhaps this also confirms your words ...

            My words confirm the enormous losses of the Reds, who were able to defeat only due to the number and presence of cartridges.
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            And this, without a doubt, confirms that "the workers are all as one ..."
            In the situation with Izhevsk everything happened exactly the same as in other similar cases - the initial rise is faced with the difficulties of protracted hostilities, with hardships, and people slowly begin to merge. This trickle of human resources is always there.

            Again, you want to understand: the detachments-not canceled mass heroism in the Second World War.
            1. -3
              10 November 2018 14: 14
              You want to understand
              Order 227 did not in any way cancel "Get up, this is a huge country." Again, not clear?
              ... detachments-did not abolish mass heroism in the Second World War.

              I don't "don't want to understand", I can't understand why you started comparing "warm with soft" (which is exactly what agitprop is in relation to the truth) - let me remind you that our conversation began with this phrase of yours:
              And EVERY word in this newspaper is the holy truth

              I have given you materials that show that this is not true. Why did you decide not to notice the "inconvenient" part of my message with the most banal example of "not truth" (I will remind you of it)?
              If the Red Army broke into Izhevsk, they would kill the entire male population, your homes would be burned, you would be dishonored, and your children would be laughed at and abused. They will not take apart the right and the guilty, they will spare nothing
              The story happened, the Red Army in fact broke into Izhevsk. So what? After the capture of the city, the entire male population was killed, all the houses were burned, all the women were raped, and the children were abused?

              A direct question was asked (I marked it for you in bold, otherwise you will try not to notice it again), which can be fully answered with only one word - "yes" or "no". So answer, please.

              My words confirm the huge losses of the Reds ...

              Please indicate the loss figures of the parties, indicating the sources. Thank.
              ... who were able to win only due to the number and availability of cartridges.

              Well, firstly, due to the "number and availability of ammunition" not "only", but "almost always" win (here the exceptions only confirm this rule). The material and mobilization base has always decided and will decide. A battle (and even battles) can be won by morale, but wars are not won by morale, the decisive point is always set by economic factors.
              And, secondly, here you have, in the appendage, the reasons for the defeat of the uprising:
              1) Internal disagreements of the "top" of the rebels. Ordinary workers were rallied with the help of propaganda with one idea. Only now the "top" idea was a side, the usual carve-up of the pie, or rather the skins of a bear that had not yet been killed. Maybe you don’t know what it was as soon "bake", who made this mess, stirred up the workers, began to run away, spitting on these same workers? Here is an excerpt from "Efimov A.G. Izhevtsy and Votkinsk residents. San Francisco. 1974 ".
              After this meeting, the entire committee of the members of the Constituent Assembly disappeared. For two days they could not be found anywhere. Even their secretary A.P. ... the runaways did not warn where they were disappearing, and the secretary did not know where to look for them ...
              ... In the "general's house", as the former house of the head of the Izhevsk plant was called, on the second floor there was a committee of members of the Constituent Assembly. The Izhevsk Zashchitnik newspaper was published on the first floor. Every day everyone who had anything to do with the affairs that the committee members were in charge of, including suppliers for the army who were waiting for urgent orders for various procurements, gathered at this house every day, since all the sums were in the hands of the Committee. The disappearance of committee members could quickly spread among the population and cause alarm and panic. Therefore, the employees in the offices of the committee and newspaper employees who were in the "general's house" agreed to hide the flight of the "supreme power". In the meantime, the suppliers were told various tales of why they could not be accepted for their business. But hiding the truth became more and more difficult.

              One cannot ignore Fedichkin, who in the style of "I'm tired, I'm leaving" resigned from himself. This officer did not want to bear a special desire to be responsible for the fact that he sent people to death, did not let himself a bullet, but went to the USA wonderfully. The answer is simple, they all did not care about the workers, they were their instrument, playing on the ignorance of the people, they just wanted to regain their pre-revolutionary position in society.
              2) The living conditions of the rebels. What did the Union of Front-line soldiers and the Constituent Assembly play on? On the fact that the life of the workers has become more difficult, linking it not with the fact that there is a war and the administrative measures of the Bolsheviks (mobilization, introduction of external administration, collection of products, etc.), but with the fact that this is a purposeful policy. Having driven out the administration of the Reds, the new government populistically cancels the previous measures and regulations. In order to reintroduce them and even surpass them later. I already wrote about this in a previous article:
              So exactly all the same measures had to be used in the future by the rebels. And a ban on the possession of weapons, and a ban on holding meetings, and the introduction of martial law and curfews, and mandatory fortification work, and an increase in production rates at the enterprise, and the fight against "counter-revolution", and voluntary-compulsory mobilization with appeals to the wives of workers to send their husbands to the front, and revisions of warm clothes, and food control with the introduction of ration cards, the return of the death penalty, and so on and so forth ...

              You can supplement what was said by mentioning Churakov:
              the reasons for the growing contradictions between the leadership of the uprising and the bulk of the rank and file participants and the growing disappointment in the new government were also labor standards, which over time became less and less democratic. The researcher notes that overtime work became mandatory, while the money for this work was credited as debt, but not paid. Since the first half of September, workers have also ceased to be paid: workers were paid at best 2/3 of the amount due, the rest was also recorded as debt.
              Decomposition also began in the army, the backbone of which was workers. If initially the Prikamsky People’s Army was formed as a volunteer, then on August 18, forced mobilization was carried out, which later became common practice. During the last violent mobilization, even 16- and 50-year-olds were called
              1. +1
                11 November 2018 08: 29
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                I don't "don't want to understand" I can not understand,

                Sorry to think of you better request
                you began to compare "warm with soft" (which is what agitprop is in relation to the truth)

                Nonsense: agitation is often based on REAL facts, the same REAL heroic actions.
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                And EVERY word in this newspaper is the holy truth

                I brought you materials that show that this is not true.

                Lying. What for ?

                Once again, for tankers, I WILL REPEAT the statement of the newspaper, which I called the holy truth .:
                1. Shame and curse on those who sold Russian democracy to German imperialism
                2. Strangles a free word
                3. Flooded the country with blood.
                3. Shots workers
                4. Brought the country to hunger and run wild.


                How did you refute this TRUTH? Nothing.

                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                So what? After the capture of the city, the entire male population was killed, all the houses were burned, all the women were raped, and the children were abused?

                A direct question was asked (I marked it for you in bold, otherwise you will try again not to notice), which can be fully answered with only one word - "yes" or "no"

                1.
                You clung to my words about the text of the newspaper, given in ARTICLE. Did you refute them (yes / no)?
                2. No, not everyone was killed. And?
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                . A battle (and even a battle) can be won at the expense of fighting spirit, but wars with a fighting spirit cannot be won, economic factors always put the decisive point.

                France with England and Belgium far surpassed Hitler Germany in 1940 in economic factors
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                Simple workers rallied with the help of propaganda with one idea.

                The workers were rallied by the Bolsheviks with their anti-labor activities.
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                The answer is simple, they all did not care about the workers, they were their instrument, playing on the ignorance of people, they just wanted to regain their pre-revolutionary position in society.

                The Muslim regiment was ignorant, which, without understanding anything, but went to the tune of the Azin, and not the working class elite.
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                This officer did not want to bear a special desire to bear responsibility for sending people to death, he did not fire a bullet, and he remarkably left for the USA.

                ANY commander sending subordinates into battle, sends them to possible death. There are millions of them. Should everyone put a bullet in their forehead?
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                What did the Union of Front-line soldiers and the Constituent Assembly play on? On the fact that the life of the workers has become more difficult, linking it not with the fact that there is a war and administrative measures of the Bolsheviks (mobilization, introduction of external administration, collection of products, etc.), but with the fact that it is a targeted policy.

                Looked at the root: mobilization-free rush jobs in the style of "Give it!" and rip-off is the style of the Bolshevik leadership for decades.
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                Then to introduce them again and even outdo

                Tell us HOW you can still fight the enemy, if not by mobilizing everything to fight him. Other methods have not yet been invented. But after the victory, this will not be like a system (what happened). As it was not before the BOP.

                PS ONCE AGAIN: detachments in the Second World War-not canceled mass heroism in the Second World War.
    2. +4
      9 November 2018 18: 14
      The Allies these days stormed the positions of the German aggressor in the last battles of the Great War, and then they storm ....

      Great war for what? For someone's capital? For the colony? For the whims and insults of the monarchs? For multimillion-dollar profits on blood?
      1. +1
        10 November 2018 07: 11
        Quote: Moskovit
        Great war for what? For someone's capital? For the colony? For the whims and insults of the monarchs? For multimillion-dollar profits on blood?

        For their LAND, the French, Serbs, Russians, Italians fought, on which they attacked.
        These are FACTS, not empty agitation.
        1. 0
          10 November 2018 11: 27
          Oh yeah. The imperialist predators were cramped in one den. And ordinary people should have paid for the exorbitant ambitions of different kings and kings. Millions of victims for the sake of new colonies and markets.
          1. +1
            11 November 2018 09: 34
            Quote: Moskovit
            Oh yeah. The imperialist predators were cramped in one den. And ordinary people should have paid for the exorbitant ambitions of different kings and kings. Millions of victims for the sake of new colonies and markets.

            Why is this empty CHAW?
            The Germans attacked France, Belgium, and Russia.
            What to do?
            Contemptuously drop weapons and surrender?
      2. +3
        10 November 2018 19: 22
        Quote: Moskovit
        Great war for what? For someone's capital? For the colony? For the whims and insults of the monarchs? For multimillion-dollar profits on blood?

        But do you propose to accept money from enemies, arrange a coup d'etat and surrender to the enemy, having left the alliance of the victorious countries, as the Bolsheviks did?
        1. -3
          10 November 2018 21: 16
          And I suggest not to get involved in an unnecessary war. I propose to deal with Russia, and not serving the English-French interests. What kind of kindergarten, to believe that the revolution in Russia occurred for German money. Right now, the outrage at the retirement age, rising gas prices and corruption is due to the State Department? With US money?
          1. +3
            10 November 2018 22: 34
            Quote: Moskovit
            Right now, the outrage at the retirement age, rising gas prices and corruption is due to the State Department?

            Of course not. The indignation of individual citizens is associated with their long-standing habit of living on handouts, which the state gives, by an unwillingness to move, think, work and bear responsibility. It’s easier to blame your incapacity on the government than to abandon the idea that someone owes you something.
            Quote: Moskovit
            What kind of kindergarten, to believe that the revolution in Russia occurred for German money.

            Including them. Public opinion was created by newspapers and talkers who fed on the money of the enemy.
            Weapons for fighting squads in the 1905 revolution were bought with Japanese funds.
            So put one to the other and - the stone wears away the water.
            1. -3
              11 November 2018 08: 14
              And the workers were all Japanese spies. Straight 37 smacks of year. Maybe you first read about the terrible working conditions of these same workers.
              What handouts from the state are you talking about? Who in our country is used to relying on the state? How is systemic corruption related to "unwillingness to move"? The state owes me exactly, as I am making it. Officials live on my taxes, I defended him at one time, so we are not two parallel universes.
              1. +2
                11 November 2018 13: 06
                Quote: Moskovit

                And the workers were all Japanese spies.

                The workers were ordinary - torn off the ground, prone to drunkenness, debauchery, deprived of education, and as a result of all this susceptible to propaganda, which all Shtokman and Bronstein generously poured into their ears.
                Quote: Moskovit
                Maybe you first read about the terrible working conditions of these same workers.

                Yes, they were, of course, very heavy. But there were no paradise conditions for workers at that time anywhere in the world. No worse than in Romania or England.
                Quote: Moskovit
                Who are we used to hoping for a state?

                Yes, all those who are pulling pensions from him and all sorts of benefits. Those who are outraged by the increase in retirement age.
                A normal man relies only on himself and on his family. And nobody owes him anything. The state is not fair and has always been so and will be so. And only very stupid people can cry about this. It’s like blaming autumn for the cold and slush.
                1. -1
                  11 November 2018 14: 56
                  The workers were ordinary - torn off the ground, prone to drunkenness, debauchery, deprived of education, and as a result of all this susceptible to propaganda, which all Shtokman and Bronstein generously poured into their ears.

                  Well, okay. It was necessary to break it. Different kolchaks and Denikins thought the same way and ended up in the trash of history.
                  People did not want to be consumables for the rich. In order to fill someone’s pockets at the cost of his life and the life of his children.
                  You have very strange ideas about the state. We make it up. And therefore, it must be ours. Protect us, help us and be on guard of our interests.
                  1. +2
                    11 November 2018 22: 28
                    Quote: Moskovit
                    Well, okay. It was necessary to break it.

                    I agree. I would have introduced spanking in schools at least now. And he found the Soviet workers again - there two-thirds of the booze died. Dictators fucking laughing
                    Quote: Moskovit
                    Different kolchaks and Denikins thought the same way and ended up in the trash of history.

                    Kolchak and Denikin are now in trend, this is Lenin with friends in the trash.
                    Quote: Moskovit
                    You have very strange ideas about the state. We make it up. And therefore it must be ours

                    This never has happened, never has been and never will be, since the state is made up of completely different groups of the population with different interests and views. And to satisfy everyone is problematic. Here we have completely different views - it is very difficult to bring them to a common denominator. You need the state to be a cash cow, and I believe that this extremely corrupts the population.
            2. 0
              23 November 2018 19: 09
              live on handouts, which gives the state, unwillingness to move, think, work and take responsibility. It's easier to dump your incapacity on the government than to give up the idea that someone owes you something.

              How-how do you say - state? Where are the gifts? If the state does not have to, then it should be called differently, for example, the state. Will you argue?
          2. +1
            11 November 2018 09: 37
            Quote: Moskovit

            And I suggest in unnecessary war does not get involved. I propose to deal with Russia, and not serving the English-French interests.

            And the Second World War was needed? So, the Second World War was needed the same way: they attacked Russia in both cases, if you do not know.
            1. -1
              11 November 2018 12: 52
              This is the war of the capitalists. We had nothing to share with Germany. All these emperors dragged the world into a bloody massacre. Your hypocrisy is amazing - you condemn the Bolsheviks for terror, but you do not consider the war, where we fell by the grace of the tsar-father and which ruined him, criminal.
              1. +2
                11 November 2018 14: 44
                Quote: Moskovit
                This is the war of the capitalists. We had nothing to share with Germany. All these emperors dragged the world into a bloody massacre.

                = What are you talking about? The aggressor attacked the country! What to do? Drop weapons, and surrender the country to the German imperialists?
                Quote: Moskovit
                All these emperors dragged the world into a bloody massacre

                Read the documents: Germany and its ilk RECOGNIZED as the culprits in the outbreak of war.
                Quote: Moskovit
                Your hypocrisy is amazing - you condemn the Bolsheviks for terror, but do not consider the war, where we fell by the grace of the tsar-father and which ruined him, to be criminal.

                WWII (and WWII-its part) -continuation of WWII. It is recognized by ALL.
                Remember this fact.

                And in WWI, we fell by the grace of the same, by the grace of which we got into WWII.
                And they got into WWII because instead of KILLING the beast (Germany) forever, your Bolsheviks became their best friends - they “broke through” with them, you see, “the international blockade with the Brest and Rappal treaties and other treaties“ On Friendship ”. before WWII, are you satisfied?
          3. +1
            12 November 2018 10: 57
            Why then did Stalin get involved "in an unnecessary war, serving the interests of the Anglo-French"?
    3. 0
      9 November 2018 23: 20
      Olgovich "And after all EVERY word in this newspaper is holy truth." -Vo killed.))))
      1. +2
        10 November 2018 07: 12
        Quote: Nagaibak
        "And EVERY word in this newspaper is the holy truth." -Vo killed.))))

        Strange: why write if this happened? lol
        1. -1
          10 November 2018 07: 57
          Olgovich "It's strange: why write if this happened?" From the phrase about "holy truth" it became clear to me that your anti-Bolshevik insanity is progressing.))) Did you wipe away a tear there?)))
          1. 0
            10 November 2018 11: 07
            Quote: Nagaibak
            You wiped a tear there?)))

            No. Yes
            1. -2
              10 November 2018 16: 36
              Olgovich
              "No: after all, you are not worried ...."
              I see.))) Well, Nitsche Nitsche ...))))
              1. +1
                11 November 2018 14: 33
                Quote: Nagaibak

                Olgovich
                "No: after all, you are not worried ...."
                I see.))) Well, Nitsche Nitsche ...))))

                Which is understandable? You didn’t understand anything: you and I never wish anything bad to you or anyone else. No.
                Let everything be fine with you and that's why, away a tear! Yes
  3. +4
    9 November 2018 09: 44
    A little-known (oddly enough) episode of the Civil War.
    But God forbid!
  4. +3
    9 November 2018 18: 39
    And after all, Izhevsk and Votkintsy became one of the most reliable fighters of the army of the Supreme Ruler.
    In what happens!
    1. +2
      9 November 2018 22: 34
      And how did it happen that these
      one of the most reliable fighters of the army of the Supreme ruler.
      did not save your beloved Supreme?
  5. +4
    10 November 2018 22: 08
    Weak article what to say
    And educational program doesn’t even work out - bloopers on bloopers
  6. 0
    13 November 2018 03: 32
    It is interesting to talk about it here http://rpcz.info/vypusk-232-s-10-po-20-noyabrya-2018-g

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