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Can't we learn to "correctly" understand the words of officials?

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The Sverdlovsk official who blew up the information space of Russia, who declared that the state of the youth should not ask for anything, decided to ask for an apology in a peculiar form. Olga Glatskih continues to declare that her words were distorted at all, taken out of context.


Can't we learn to "correctly" understand the words of officials?


Olga Glatskikh, Head of the Regional Department of Youth Policy, who is an Olympic champion, in an interview with Sverdlovsk publication Oblgazeta stated that in her own words she tried to motivate the modern youth.

Glatskikh for the said edition:
Published phrases: “young people believe that the state owes them everything. No, the state generally owes you nothing. You owe your parents who gave birth to you. The state did not ask them to give birth to you. Everyone knows their rights, but they forgot about their duties ”are taken out of the general content of the meeting and the context of the conversation.


According to Glatsky, she tried to explain to the youth that not only the state, but also the young people themselves and their parents should actively take care of the future.

Official:
This is proved by my own example, when in 15 years I became an Olympic champion, in which my parents undoubtedly deserve, the help of the state and my own hard work.


Further, the Glatskys stated that they recognize "the possible excessive straightforwardness" of their thought that "the state of the youth owes nothing."

Government official of the Sverdlovsk region:
I apologize for such a harsh statement, but from the general context it is clear that this was said only in order to increase the motivation of young people independently and actively develop and invest their own energy and strength in self-establishment, and not only count on the state.


The declaration of a member of the United Russia party states that its annual income is 1,5 million rubles.
Olga Glatsky awards (in addition to the medals of the Olympics and the Russian, European and World Championships): Order of Friendship (2006), Golden Medal of Peter the Great "For Labor Valor" (2004), "For Selfless Labor for the Benefit of Russia" (2004), Order of Peter the Great I degree - for the high sporting results shown at the XXVIII Olympic Games 2004 of the Year in Athens (2006).

The statement by Olga Glatsky, who, although apologized, but very peculiar, continues to evoke a negative reaction in society. And the reason is not even so much in the “single” official as in the trend. One argues that the people could live well on 3,5 thousands of rubles, buying "macaroons", the other declares that the state in the country owes nothing to anyone, the third tells about the incredible increase in wages from the population. In the end, it turns out that people "misinterpret the words of officials, pulling them out of context."

If people who are called upon to deal with issues of youth policy, allow themselves the tone that 29-year-old Mrs. from Yekaterinburg has allowed itself, then it is difficult to say anything at all about the success of the implementation of a single (nationwide) program for youth development and youth support.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 6 November 2018 07: 51
    +71
    "normal" words, officials from our government. what she wanted to say and said. why "be indignant" then? you voted for them. they all think so, it's just that this one escaped out loud ... by accident.
    1. pillau
      pillau 6 November 2018 08: 01
      +30
      Well, yes, thinking out loud, what ... Sometimes, now "I am not me, and the horse is not mine." laughing
      you state in general in principle, nothing should- brilliant!
      .State did not ask them to give birth to you.-masterpiece!
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 November 2018 08: 06
        +15
        Quote: Pillau
        The state did not ask them to give birth to you. A masterpiece!

        when our Governor Antoshka was asked why he answered directly - on the head, this is literally
        1. private person
          private person 6 November 2018 08: 27
          +31
          After such statements, the least that these "chosen people of the people" should do is to quietly resign if they have something humane left. But they had nothing left except the thirst for power and profit, therefore they must be driven away with a nasty broom with a wolf ticket without the right to rehabilitation.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 6 November 2018 08: 52
            +4
            Quote: private person
            After such statements, the least that these "chosen people of the people" should do is to quietly resign if they have something humane left.

            I don’t understand one request here is Fetisov. also an official. there are so many sports awards and achievements that this .... never dreamed of. Well, he NEVER expressed such disrespect to people
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 6 November 2018 09: 30
              +14
              Quote: LSA57
              I don’t understand one thing. Fetisov. also an official. there are so many sports awards and achievements that this .... never dreamed of. Well, he NEVER expressed such disrespect to people

              But, for example, the ice skater Evgeny Plushenko and the deputy of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg in 2010 attended only 123 out of 11 meetings per year. At the same time, Plushenko received and used salary, financial and other deputy privileges from the budget of the country and the city. them regularly. He had enough "conscience" for that. What kind of respect of the deputy to the people can we talk about?

              It is noteworthy that the United Russia did not choose the moment to strike Plushenko, and before that, nobody had raised their voices to Plushenko!
              Representatives of the ruling party chose the moment to strike extremely well - this Wednesday, 28 of April, ZakS first began broadcasting its meetings on the Internet, and therefore ordinary Petersburgers were able to witness Plushenko’s shame. By the way, the skater himself was traditionally absent. The head of the United Russia faction, Vyacheslav Makarov, personally went to the podium to read the text of the document.
              "From the day E. Plushenko was elected a deputy of the city parliament, it was quite obvious that he would not be able to fully work for the benefit of Petersburgers due to his employment in sports and participation in ADVERTISING campaigns," he broadcast, at the same time emphasizing that the ZakS is proud sports achievements of a truant parliamentarian.

              See details - "The skater was asked to leave the parliament of St. Petersburg
              Deputy Evgeni Plushenko attended only 123 out of 11 sessions of the Legislative Assembly "- http://www.compromat.ru/page_29168.htm
              1. dik-nsk
                dik-nsk 6 November 2018 09: 50
                +6
                you need to think to prohibit the election to the State Duma by party lists of our Olympic athletes. Go about your business! There is nothing to sit there asses. You are never seen in the stands anywhere. What normal law did you participate in? You only post the results of voting on pension reform in social networks and are proud that you put your own people in such conditions
                (s, Alexander Tikhonov), 4-time Olympic champion .. and everything is in order with the brains .. I am proud of my Countryman
                1. Alena Frolovna
                  Alena Frolovna 6 November 2018 10: 32
                  +10
                  How despicable "Apologized for my words" sounds ...

                  I apologized if this excuse with a bunch of reservations in defense of yourself can be called an apology, only to stay in the chair.

                  How quickly these "bureaucrats" break away from the realities of life. They receive the salary of a hundred parents who work and pay taxes for the maintenance of her and her children. So many bloopers lately. So the consequences of "Baba ege" and worship of consumerism are fully manifested. An empty inner world that takes a shock. And thanks to the Internet that we can see such "caring" servants of the people.

                  And you have to answer for your words! Do not make excuses, and find the courage to admit to his stupidity.
                  1. Warrior with machine gun
                    Warrior with machine gun 6 November 2018 11: 05
                    +5
                    what these "professionals" from sports in power can answer for, there is no actual demand for them, so they can mold what they want without serious consequences for themselves.
                  2. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 6 November 2018 11: 36
                    +9
                    Quote: Alena Frolovna
                    And you have to answer for your words! Do not make excuses, and find the courage to admit to his stupidity.

                    Poor folly is a state that has built a system in which people who have neither military service experience nor experience working with people who are completely ignorant of how people live come to the government and make decisions. Previously, in order to get to the deputy of the Supreme Council or to become a delegate, it was necessary to plow from an ordinary locksmith, to the head of the workshop or from a combine operator to the chairman of the collective farm after going through all the steps. And then what? 29 years old - an official responsible for something, but not responsible for the bazaar. It is necessary to force her into a physical education teacher at a school somewhere in the outback of the Sverdlovsk region for five years, so that with her powerful experience she would help realize the potential of young people in conditions where it is almost impossible due to the lack of a slightly suitable sports (any) base.
                  3. Sotskiy
                    Sotskiy 6 November 2018 15: 10
                    +6
                    Quote: Alena Frolovna
                    How quickly these "bureaucrats" break away from the realities of life

                    So that they do not break away from reality, it is necessary to disperse these "professional" deputies, abolish the State Duma and return as in the Union to the congresses of people's deputies. The people's deputy works at the plant, the time has come, he went to the congress. The congress ended - I returned to the plant, to my position and salary. The obvious advantages are closer to the people and, again, budget savings, you know. laughing
              2. credo
                credo 6 November 2018 15: 21
                -1
                Quote: Tatiana
                But, for example, the ice skater Evgeny Plushenko and the deputy of the Legislative Assembly of St. Petersburg in 2010 attended only 123 out of 11 meetings per year. At the same time, Plushenko received and used salary, financial and other deputy privileges from the budget of the country and the city. them regularly. He had enough "conscience" for that. What kind of respect of the deputy to the people can we talk about?

                As the saying goes - "Don't sew the tail to the mare." What did you mean by that?
                Plushenko was a wonderful skater and did not offend his voters, and when he realized that it was impossible to combine deputy and commercial activities, he left the deputy chair. Such actions among deputies can be counted on the fingers of one hand. So his conscience is more than, for example, that of the endless deputy Yavlinsky, who, without falling into the State Duma, hesitatingly moved to the St. Petersburg legislative assembly. Why, understand. That's just the benefit of such St. Petersburg is unlikely to feel, because it was in the State Duma from him as from KZ milk.
                So, the Glatsky should be judged not by her past sports successes, but by the resonance that she committed. As far as I can understand, she simply was not in her place, but she lacked the willpower to resign or find another job, unlike Plushenko.
                Glatskikh is still a young woman and I hope she will find her vocation in something other than working with people, and then maybe no one will ask her - "And your parents asked permission from the state to conceive you."
            2. helmi8
              helmi8 6 November 2018 09: 55
              +8
              Quote: LSA57
              he NEVER expressed such disrespect to people

              Fetisov's upbringing is different. And the attitude towards the country and people. And in the national team he played not for money, but for the country. And "Mercedes" did not receive for victories at the World Cup and Olympic Games, like the current ...
            3. ochakow703
              ochakow703 6 November 2018 17: 10
              0
              When, where and by whom was Fetisov brought up, and who is this lady from Yekaterinburg's Molodezhka? I think there is a difference! What we are talking about? And if it were not for the systematic blunders of our officials, no one would have remembered about it.
          2. dik-nsk
            dik-nsk 6 November 2018 08: 57
            -11
            how quickly she was recorded in an official (media labels), so the girl herself and her work achieved a lot in sports and her message, IMHO, was that there was nothing to lie on the stove and wait for manna from the state .. who would not say that , we have a lot of dependent citizens, full of young people sitting on the neck of mom and dad and living with parents at the age of 30 ... I think she wanted to say this and she is right .. and as for the form of presentation - well, sportswoman, what take from education ..
            ps therefore, it is necessary to drive out of power all these sportsmen and the elite, the level of competencies is below the baseboard ..
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 6 November 2018 08: 58
              +18
              It's time to stop choosing to power on the party list. For the people in the party know the leaders, but the stupid careerists who have attached themselves to them in the party are not.

              Really. Often a political party is the leader’s 1-2, and the rest are just gray consumers-consumers who got rid of the people and mediocre political extras, who cannot be expelled from the authorities in Russia.
              1. dik-nsk
                dik-nsk 6 November 2018 09: 00
                +9
                I agree completely .. the efforts of the media have already turned the country into house-2, hence the set of these extras from celebrities, people hawala ..
              2. igorbrsv
                igorbrsv 6 November 2018 09: 42
                +7
                So after all, these one are two party leaders and must form their own environment. This is what is required of Putin. Since the chapter, then is responsible for all? Or again double standards?
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 6 November 2018 10: 52
                  +4
                  This is what is required of Putin. Since the chapter, then is responsible for all? Or again double standards?

                  Well, Putin, in principle, cannot form a cadre of small and medium-sized regional officials. But there is a problem. Most of the "political elite" useless opportunists and are not capable of fulfilling their mission.
            2. Winnie76
              Winnie76 6 November 2018 09: 42
              +18
              Quote: dik-nsk
              so the girl herself and her labor achieved a lot in sports

              Did you get it? I sat on the neck of my parents - I admit. And who paid trainers, massage therapists, gyms, training camps, vouchers?
              Quote: dik-nsk
              whoever says that, we have a bunch of dependent citizens, full of young people sitting on the neck of mom and dad and living with their parents at 30 ...

              So what? In our country, a specialist with experience and in who turns the nuts can feed himself and a maximum of the hamster. Where can I rent an apartment ....
              Quote: dik-nsk
              .. and as for the form of presentation - well, athlete, what to take from education

              The question is not in form, but in content. For some reason, people always have to. Must replenish the budget. I have to feed these ghouls, I have to carry them, I have to clean up after them, I have to give heat, water and gas to their houses. Must carry them mail and treat. Must ensure their safety. Gotta die with a gun in the war.
              And they ***** owe nothing to anyone
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 6 November 2018 09: 49
                +4
                Quote: Winnie76
                And who paid trainers, massage therapists, gyms, training camps, vouchers?

                .... fees, trips to competitions, scholarships as a member of the national team, etc.
              2. dik-nsk
                dik-nsk 6 November 2018 10: 24
                -4
                Did you get it?
                They just don’t become Olympic champions - this is a HUGE personal work
                So what? In our country, a specialist with experience and in who turns the nuts can feed himself and a maximum of the hamster. Where can I rent an apartment
                yah? this is the position of the dependent - give me everything .. live in 30 years with my parents - shame, IMHO .. twists the nuts and can’t feed itself? specialist? the other day a plumber came to me, soldered a pipe .. got into a conversation .. has at least 60 sput per month, says it is necessary to work, not to plump ..
                The question is not in the form, but in the content
                and here we can only reason with you, I believe that the content was precisely about our own efforts, and the presentation was at the level of a chick because of a lack of competencies .. You are different ..
                the main minus of the whole situation is not how she said it, but that the system skips, if it does not contribute to the emergence of illiterate people in power hi
                1. aglet
                  aglet 6 November 2018 11: 23
                  +8
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  they just don’t become limpian champions - this is a HUGE personal work

                  meaning in this work? if tomorrow all Olympic champions disappear, no one will notice this, well, except for their relatives. and if plumbers disappear, everyone will notice, both champions and deputies
                2. Winnie76
                  Winnie76 6 November 2018 11: 32
                  +2
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  yah? this is the position of the dependent - give me everything .. live in 30 years with my parents - shame, IMHO .. twists the nuts and can’t feed itself? specialist? the other day a plumber came to me, soldered a pipe .. got into a conversation .. has at least 60 sput per month, says it is necessary to work, not to plump ..

                  According to your family can fully live on 60 sput? With a child and a rented apartment?
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  They just don’t become Olympic champions - this is a HUGE personal work

                  And the benefit to society from this work? I've been pulling iron in the gym. And this is also work. AND?
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  , I believe that the content was about their own efforts, and the presentation at the level of the chickens due to lack of competencies ..

                  The question is IMHO fundamental. The state in the person of this chicken with hula hoop tells me. You, man, owe me this, this fifth and tenth. And I, the state, owe nothing to your children ...
                3. aglet
                  aglet 6 November 2018 11: 41
                  +9
                  Quote: dik-nsk
                  yah? this is the position of the dependent - give me everything

                  in the town where I live, 35 thousand people. from industry, a piece of Gazprom and the remains of a military factory, but even there are subsidiary jobs, they don’t take them from the street. innumerable shops and taxis. sellers vacancies are. but not everyone is imprisoned for trade, and they don’t keep sellers for long, their owners quickly change. and where to go to work for young people, where can he earn an apartment, adequately support his family? to create his own business is almost impossible, everything is already divided. and the police go to the army? again, reductions. on a watch in the north, they do not pay hard workers there, but throw it on grandmas, how hello. they work without formalities, with a black salary, without a social package, without any guarantees. that is how all of Russia lives, even worse in villages — villages are dying out without schools and hospitals, without communications and transport. this is how the state takes care of its citizens, creating millions of jobs
            3. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 6 November 2018 09: 44
              +2
              I support. Help help, but young people themselves should make efforts
            4. LSA57
              LSA57 6 November 2018 09: 46
              +7
              Quote: dik-nsk
              how quickly she was recorded in an official (media labels),

              and who do you think she is?
              Head of the Regional Department of Youth Policy

              working?
            5. snake
              snake 6 November 2018 09: 48
              +8
              Quote: dik-nsk
              her message, IMHO, was that there was nothing to lie on the stove and wait for manna from the state ..

              Don't be here. We know very well that we have talented and hardworking youth. They take first places at the Olympiads in sports, and in mathematics-physics-programming. But "thanks to" bureaucrats like this one, their potential is often not realized in our country.
              And the title should be like this:
              We will never learn to "correctly" give a shock to the insolent, spitting on the people, lost touch with reality, living on a separate planet, Russian officials.
              1. AA17
                AA17 6 November 2018 13: 01
                +6
                Dear serpent (Sergey). I understand your indignation. There is nothing surprising in the statements of officials. It is time for many Russians to get used to the surrounding reality. And the phrases: "... the state, in principle, owes you nothing ..." and "... the statement that pensioners can live on 3,5 rubles a month ..." are just a statement of fact. Concepts have disappeared: free apartments, free spa stays, free health care and education, questionable payment of pensions, etc. Officials associate themselves with the state. The state is the apparatus of officials for expressing and protecting the interests of the ruling class. In their opinion, "the people" does not belong to the state. And the officials are right. We simply forgot, and young people do not know about the statements of the classics about the role of the state: "" The state is a machine for oppressing one class by another, a machine for keeping other subordinate classes in subjection to one class "(Lenin V.I., Complete Works, 5 ed., vol. 39, p. 75). "The state is an apparatus of violence in the hands of the ruling class" (V. I. Lenin. Complete works (third edition). - M .: Politizdat, vol. 20, p. 20 ).
                1. snake
                  snake 6 November 2018 13: 41
                  +4
                  Quote: AA17
                  I understand your indignation. There is nothing surprising in the statements of officials.

                  Yes. It's like that. These "servants of the people" simply enrage. They have already made it a rule to blurt out something like that once a week. As if they are competing with each other, who will express the greatest heresy.
                2. KOCMOC
                  KOCMOC 6 November 2018 14: 32
                  -4
                  Quote: AA17
                  We simply forgot, and young people do not know about the statements of the classics about the role of the state: "" The state is a machine for oppressing one class by another, a machine for keeping other subordinate classes in subjection to one class "(Lenin V.I., Complete Works, 5 ed., v. 39, p. 75). "The state is an apparatus of violence in the hands of the ruling class" (VI Lenin. Complete works (third edition). - M .: Politizdat, v. 20, p.

                  Lenin also built a state! Really for oppression? Keep obedient to other classes. Is the Soviet state also an apparatus of violence in the hands of the ruling class?
                  1. AA17
                    AA17 6 November 2018 15: 08
                    +4
                    Dear, KOCMOC (Demyan). Power in the state is always based on dictatorship. Under Lenin and Stalin, Power rested on the dictatorship of the proletariat. She defended the interests of the working people and, accordingly, suppressed other classes. “... With the help of the concept of the dictatorship of the proletariat, the Soviet political system was officially described up to the 1961nd Congress of the CPSU (1). from the point of view of internal development, it ceased to be necessary. A new concept of the state of the whole people (nationwide socialist democracy) was introduced, into which, as it was assumed, the Soviet state had become [XNUMX] ... "
                    We, now in Russia, have the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie with all its attributes. Therefore, we have: Bourgeois-everything, the people-the law.
                    1. KOCMOC
                      KOCMOC 6 November 2018 16: 00
                      -7
                      Quote: AA17
                      We, now in Russia, have the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie with all its attributes. Therefore, we have: Bourgeois-everything, the people-the law.

                      But what are rich people not? Do you deny the benefits of intelligence and hard work, do you deny the possibility of success and honesty? Do you think that people cannot and do not have the right to be rich? Then I feel sorry for you, your mind is sleeping and you are not looking there and do not even know what you are doing ...
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 7 November 2018 23: 20
                        +2
                        Quote: KOCMOC
                        But what are rich people not? Do you deny the benefits of intelligence and hard work, do you deny the possibility of success and honesty? Do you think that people cannot and do not have the right to be rich? Then I feel sorry for you, your mind is sleeping and you are not looking there and do not even know what you are doing ...

                        I already feel sorry for you. Without any then and if.
                        You actually equated all poor people to stupid idlers.
            6. Zefr
              Zefr 6 November 2018 10: 08
              +8
              nothing to lie on the stove and wait for manna from the state

              She, like an Olympic champion, can say - everything is in your hands.
              But, as an official of the youth policy department, she said that the state owes you nothing.
              Get out of the department and say what you want, and now, your job responsibilities include helping children and youth.
              The reaction was not to the statement of the Olympic champion, but to the statement of the official.
            7. ochakow703
              ochakow703 6 November 2018 17: 15
              +3
              Yes, yes, I especially "liked it" - "The state did not ask them to give birth to you", is this a call for activity or is it still an insult? Then you should be sympathetic to the statements of bureaucrats addressed to the Afghans - "And we did not send you there." Birds of a feather. And don't make excuses like that. Look at her physiognomy at the moment when she said this, she despises the people sitting in front of her.
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          4. Machito
            Machito 6 November 2018 09: 19
            +6
            She accidentally let it slip, and now she justifies herself: "I was drunk." Too often lately officials neglect the people. This is not an accident, but a pattern.
            The Minister of Youth Policy says that the state does not need children, while millions themselves are rowing for work with children.
            Children steal !!!!
            Drive her in three necks !!!!
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm 6 November 2018 13: 41
          0
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Governor Antoshka

          And what is this governor?
        3. CERBERFOL
          CERBERFOL 6 November 2018 13: 51
          +2
          Then we should not pay taxes to them and go to the army on appeal
      2. sib.ataman
        sib.ataman 6 November 2018 08: 09
        +7
        Then she clearly got excited! GDP its program to increase fertility with mat. capital and other benefits, has been promoting the second ten years! For such a discrepancy of views, you can rake!
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 6 November 2018 08: 24
          +11
          GDP program
          You are mistaken; she supported the president. Here are his words.
          If we quietly tear away from paternalism, and each person understands that his fate is primarily in his own hands, this will be a very correct direction in working with young people.
          1. sib.ataman
            sib.ataman 6 November 2018 08: 32
            +6
            Well, if this is how she "steadily rallied", then the GDP will not understand her words, neither in the text, nor in the context!
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 6 November 2018 08: 53
          -1
          Quote: sib.ataman
          with mat. capital and other benefits,

          But perhaps a mat. stopped paying capital?
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 6 November 2018 08: 10
        +7
        this was said only in order to strengthen the motivation of young people to independently and actively develop and invest their own energy and strength in self-determination

        And there is a reason to believe this naive girl who wants the good of youth. It was about the "second youth" of citizens, about the active development and investment of energy and forces for the good of the Fatherland that the deputies and deputies of the United Russia thought when voting for the pension law ... recourse
      4. Svarog
        Svarog 6 November 2018 08: 36
        +34
        Nobel laureate in physics, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov asks a completely reasonable question.

        “If a citizen is forced to pay for education and medical services, to accumulate a pension from his own funds, to pay housing and utilities in full at the market price, then why do I need such a state ?! Why should I still pay taxes and maintain a crazy army of officials? he always said at all levels that health care, education and science should be provided from the budget. If the state puts this concern on us, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us! "
        1. KOCMOC
          KOCMOC 6 November 2018 14: 47
          -9
          Quote: Svarog
          Nobel laureate in physics, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov asks a completely reasonable question.

          Another academician Sakharov, Alferov, without thinking, broadcasts outright stupidity, calling for the destruction of the foundations of ANY state, such statements as under Stalin should be equated with treason and should be punished with a shot. About that stupid followers, spread the infection.
      5. free
        free 6 November 2018 09: 15
        +9
        Quote: Pillau
        Well, yes, thinking out loud, what ... Sometimes, now "I am not me, and the horse is not mine." laughing
        you state in general in principle, nothing should- brilliant!
        .State did not ask them to give birth to you.-masterpiece!

        Then why do people need such a state? If individual pieces of brown matter think that the state is needed only for pumping mineral resources out of the country and selling them abroad, and also in order to keep people submissive, they will end badly. Very bad.
      6. Random
        Random 6 November 2018 12: 40
        +2
        Quote: Pillau
        The state did not ask them to give birth to you. A masterpiece!

        The "lady official" is twisted like .. "a snack in a frying pan" wassat
        quote - ".... This is proven by my own example, when at the age of 15 I became an Olympic champion, which undoubtedly is the merit of my parents, government assistance and my own hard work." belay belay
        Yeah, it was her parents who provided training facilities, gyms, trainers, medicine, sports camps, trainings, internships. Seminars, flights, etc. and so on wassat
        Yes, on one sports equipment, your "family budget" would collapse overnight wassat
        Lies and even ... does not blush am
    2. Gorjelin
      Gorjelin 6 November 2018 08: 11
      +22
      I wanted to say something and said

      In response to this, one must ask if the youth should be the state: pay taxes, serve in the army, comply with laws, etc. etc.

      overshoots rolls over, more and more such revelations erupt
      1. AUL
        AUL 6 November 2018 08: 24
        +9
        Quote: Gorjelin
        overshoots rolls over, more and more such revelations erupt

        So you can’t hide the awl in a bag! Moreover, such a government policy is clearly visible without words - you rams are obliged to us all around, and we owe nothing to you! Therefore, love us silently and do not blather!
      2. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 6 November 2018 09: 50
        -5
        The fact of the matter is that young people received education for free (schoolchildren) and, poorly, poor medicine. It hasn’t brought anything useful to society yet, but a wagon and a trolley have requirements. To get something, you must first do something, and not vice versa.
        1. Gorjelin
          Gorjelin 6 November 2018 11: 38
          +4
          The fact of the matter is that young people received education for free (schoolchildren) and, poorly, poor medicine.

          the state was created by the people and for the people and should serve the people, even the servants of the people are called.

          only in our country it turns into a kind of "elite", such as noblemen or anyone else: the mob may or may not, and they don't owe anything to the commoners. ALTHOUGH LIVE FOR OUR EXPENSE, and apparently not sour.

          we need a mechanism that would remind officials who they are and where their place is.
          1. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 6 November 2018 11: 48
            +1
            The best mechanism is demonstrative executions and exile. But you will remember how we now hold the "repressed" and "victims" of mass executions in high esteem. Yes, there were innocent people, perhaps, but this is not certain. The people contradict themselves. What then can be expected from politicians? You won't be nice to everyone
            1. Gorjelin
              Gorjelin 6 November 2018 11: 57
              +3
              from state. the servants are now held in high esteem by the noble crunch of French rolls and lackeys, but they are afraid of reprisals when they like they deserve it, hence the moans about the billions of people executed, and the monuments of the White Guards like Kolchak.

              and the people, for the most part, see everything perfectly and understand, so it would be worthwhile for them to maintain the level of their insight, otherwise, it’s not far from trouble.
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 7 November 2018 11: 01
            +1
            The Khazar Kaganate, for example, was not a Khazar state (except for the period when the Kaganate was founded by the founding Turks). More precisely, it was a non-Khazar state, where the Khazars were in the role of cattle, the small Turks were guards for feeding. The question must always be posed clearly: WHOSE STATE IS THIS. Otherwise, "Their Home Russia" sprouts unified ross in any way, the rest are just fertilizers.
    3. Mussasi
      Mussasi 6 November 2018 08: 17
      +22
      Yes, lately I have also had very interesting thoughts, one of them "do we need a state, all these people who are in power"?
    4. NordUral
      NordUral 6 November 2018 08: 59
      +3
      This comes to us tightly.
    5. Iline
      Iline 6 November 2018 09: 12
      +6
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      ". they all think so, just this one escaped out loud ... by accident.

      I will support your thought. The latest actions of our government allow us to verify the sincerity of the words of this official. Only one, not far-off, she did not understand that to do this out loud would not be worth it. And it will pay for it. I could not understand that the words for the people among our powers that be are at odds with concrete deeds. You can feed the people with beautiful messages about a good life, and in the meantime draw the last veins from it.
      1. Igor V
        Igor V 6 November 2018 11: 25
        +2
        Quote: Iline
        And it will pay for it

        She will not pay with anything. They will put him in a position that is not connected with the media, and will work hard there for more than one year. They do not abandon their own.
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 6 November 2018 11: 52
          0
          If she were your girlfriend, you would not have left wassat a joke of humor
          1. Igor V
            Igor V 6 November 2018 11: 58
            +1
            Not certainly in that way. In her own words, she proved herself to be among the officials. You can’t throw such ones, it’s useful anywhere.
            1. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 6 November 2018 12: 03
              +1
              For me, she was not able to correctly formulate her thought, and part of the logic in her words can be traced.
              That's about 3500r. one said, there is no double interpretation. But what does she do there request
              Well, the fact that she is his own is beyond doubt
    6. prior
      prior 6 November 2018 09: 16
      +3
      This former athlete has muscles in his head instead of brain.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 6 November 2018 09: 36
        +5
        Buttocks, Vlad laughing
    7. Yrec
      Yrec 6 November 2018 09: 17
      +7
      My wife is a federal government official with 20 years of experience. I counted her salary for 2017, somehow for fun. It turned out, on average, about 26 thousand rubles per month. This, together with all the bonuses and allowances, despite the fact that she is far from an ordinary clerk. At the same time, there is a huge responsibility, including criminal responsibility, and no gratitude. Believe me, she and her colleagues HATE these "Sverdlovsk officials" FULLY. After such incidents, people almost spit in their eyes.
    8. Bomb
      Bomb 6 November 2018 09: 30
      +5
      Plusan. Let them slurp in full spoons for what they voted for.
    9. Vend
      Vend 6 November 2018 09: 58
      -2
      The legacy of the USSR about free will be fooling people for a long time to come.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 6 November 2018 12: 09
        +2
        It seems to me that the whole world will return to socialism. Eras are changing
        1. Vend
          Vend 6 November 2018 12: 16
          -1
          Quote: igorbrsv
          It seems to me that the whole world will return to socialism. Eras are changing

          I think there will be something new. Socialism, as such, has outlived itself, capitalism too.
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    11. Random
      Random 6 November 2018 12: 44
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      officials from our government

      So yes, but this ... "official" awards in 15 years like mine belay , only I have 9 years (a day for 3), and she ????
      And I finally realized that she is the champion in the "group", but as you know for the group .. they give more lol
    12. Deck
      Deck 6 November 2018 19: 30
      +1
      The authorities think that it does not owe us anything. This feeling is mutual. Therefore, I ask the state not to bother us with trifles, not to beg for money. Sitting quietly in the Kremlin or the Duma that dug up there and ate it.
    13. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 November 2018 09: 50
      0
      Escaped or not escaped, but words cannot be thrown out of the song. Well, the "greyhound" of Russian officials has been going on since the time of Peter the Great (with the exception of a short period under J.V. Stalin).
    14. volot-voin
      volot-voin 7 November 2018 14: 20
      0
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      normal "words, officials from our government. That wanted to say that and said. Why" indignant "then?

      For that, everything was honest, they did not expect anything else.
  2. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 6 November 2018 07: 52
    +7
    The second problem of the Glatsky’s ideological brothers and sisters is that they do not understand the meaning of the media. Despite the possession of the most expensive smartphones and other mobile communication devices, as they say in the steppe, if you put on a monkey coat, it will not become a vizier. literacy and the speed of dissemination of information allows to bring defamatory facts quickly to the masses of readers. But not a sparrow. It is clear that they didn’t plan to carry out media literacy exercises with senior officials. They seemed to be wearing clothes somewhat, but they could not control their speech. render RT and Rosmolu a disservice. They pour water on the mill of the Voice of America and Freedom from the Air Force in addition. But in vain.
    1. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 6 November 2018 08: 12
      +9
      This is about social lifts! Like, from rags to riches! And the brains in the head have remained the same!
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother 6 November 2018 08: 36
      +2
      Quote: gunnerminer
      Rosmol

      "JOINT STOCK COMPANY" GROUP OF COMPANIES "RUSSIAN MILK".
      Better generate texts using the newspaper "Krasnaya Zvezda".
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    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 November 2018 09: 54
      0
      Officials do not need to appoint just anyone, but you must first learn, then make a selection and only then appoint to the position. And it's better to introduce "tables of ranks" as under Peter the Great.
  3. Boris55
    Boris55 6 November 2018 07: 53
    +3
    For your information:

    The head of the Sverdlovsk region called the official’s words about youth incorrect.

    “Judging by the published video, Olga Glatskikh, head of the youth policy department of the Sverdlovsk region, speaking in Kirovgrad, made an incorrect statement about state policy towards children and youth. I will request a full recording of the speech in order to calmly understand and draw conclusions. But with what sounds on the posted post, I absolutely cannot agree, "the governor wrote on his Instagram on Monday.

    The head of the region added that the state, firstly, is pursuing a consistent demographic policy in order to increase the birth rate. Secondly, "of course, the state has obligations to its citizens and will fulfill them."

    "We have to discuss this episode with Olga Glatskikh, I want to understand whether there was a mistake, a reservation, or if it was a thoughtful position. Based on the results of this conversation and studying the full record organizational conclusions will be made ... For now, as a governor, I want to express regret about this statement of my subordinate, "Kuyvashev concluded.

    This is reported by Rambler. Further: https://news.rambler.ru/politics/41207426/?utm_content=rnews&utm_medium=read_more&utm_source=copylink
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 6 November 2018 07: 57
      +9
      The head of the region made an effort to smooth the corners. Only the desire to fight General of the Army Zolotov began to be forgotten. And here again.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 6 November 2018 08: 07
        +5
        Quote: gunnerminer
        Only the desire to fight army general Zolotov was forgotten. And here again.

        And note, the increase in negative information is only growing. Blows are made on the country's governing bodies, the benefit of stupid officials is enough. We must always remember that the destruction of governance leads to the destruction of the country.

        Virtually no one writes anywhere about the real villains that top the Forbes lists. They are the ones who nominate the deputies to the elections who then make such statements and adopt laws that we all live by, including on pensions, and which allow them to rob us further.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 6 November 2018 08: 09
          0
          I agree with you.
        2. free
          free 6 November 2018 09: 20
          +9
          Quote: Boris55
          Quote: gunnerminer
          Only the desire to fight army general Zolotov was forgotten. And here again.

          And note, the increase in negative information is only growing. Blows are made on the country's governing bodies, the benefit of stupid officials is enough. We must always remember that the destruction of governance leads to the destruction of the country.

          Virtually no one writes anywhere about the real villains that top the Forbes lists. They are the ones who nominate the deputies to the elections who then make such statements and adopt laws that we all live by, including on pensions, and which allow them to rob us further.

          They dig under your beloved guarantor. But their bourgeoisie stagger the throne so that only the creak is standing. Russia is on the verge of another bourgeois revolution. The communists must be ready to save Russia again, turning the bourgeois revolution into a socialist one.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 6 November 2018 11: 32
            -4
            Quote: free
            Communists must be ready to save Russia again

            Do not make laugh my bast shoes. laughing

            What kind of communists are you talking about? About those who destroyed the USSR in the 90 and snatched the tidbits of the entire nation? About those who are unable to organize and lead the people against pension reform? The people will not follow you. Elections have repeatedly shown this.

            Create a new party - the Bolshevik party and I will be the first to join its ranks.
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 6 November 2018 11: 32
            +2
            The communists must be ready to save Russia again by converting the bourgeois revolution into a socialist one.

            There are already no such communists. Degenerate during stagnation and later.
        3. Moore
          Moore 6 November 2018 09: 24
          +2
          Quote: Boris55
          We must always remember that the destruction of governance leads to the destruction of the country.

          Something tells me that if now the bureaucrats at least learn to keep track of their language, and in the future it will come to them that it is time to put their swagger into "mouths that do not speak Flemish" (C), management will not suffer.
          Quote: Boris55
          the benefit of stupid officials is enough.

          Do you think this should be taken for granted? How is the tradition of the forefathers the Byzantine system of recruitment, when the boss surrounds himself with either obviously dumb (they won’t pretend to be in place) or subordinates recruited by a kindred line?
        4. aglet
          aglet 6 November 2018 11: 45
          +1
          Quote: Boris55
          We must always remember that the destruction of governance leads to the destruction of the country.

          this kind of governance leads to the destruction of the country, and very successfully
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 November 2018 08: 13
      +5
      Quote: Boris55
      The head of the Sverdlovsk region called the official’s words about youth incorrect.

      Incorrect or boorish? Can they be changed somehow? Why didn’t she say her correction right away? The word is not a sparrow - it flew out, you can’t correct it.
      1. free
        free 6 November 2018 09: 25
        +2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Quote: Boris55
        The head of the Sverdlovsk region called the official’s words about youth incorrect.

        Incorrect or boorish? Can they be changed somehow? Why didn’t she say her correction right away? The word is not a sparrow - it flew out, you can’t correct it.

        She’s just a stupid puppet, they just need them there now. They use her in the dark, and she doesn’t have enough brains to understand that this freebie will end soon and people like her who spit in the face of the people will pay the bills.
    3. Qwertyarion
      Qwertyarion 6 November 2018 09: 04
      +4
      Yes, you really need to figure it out. Maybe the athlete really had no malicious intent, maybe there are simply no brains. And you don’t need to fire, who will work? Judging by how such Glatsky are annealed in the media, they sit in posts through one.
      We must be sympathetic to the lack of intelligence, tact and not knowing what we can say, to whom and where.
      1. AUL
        AUL 6 November 2018 10: 12
        -1
        Quote: Qwertyarion
        Yes, you really need to figure it out. Maybe the athlete really had no malicious intent, maybe there are simply no brains. And you don’t need to fire, who will work? Judging by how such Glatsky are annealed in the media, they sit in posts through one.
        We must be sympathetic to the lack of intelligence, tact and not knowing what we can say, to whom and where.

        Or maybe it’s easier not to recruit such brainless people into power, but to choose who is smarter? This option has not been considered?
        1. Qwertyarion
          Qwertyarion 6 November 2018 11: 10
          +4
          Unfortunately this is not possible! Close relatives, wives, children, wives of business partners, etc. Big state functionaries also want to be important and make decisions, they also want to work in state. apparatus. So they behave as they can.
          Solving the problem on the surface. Most likely, in order to avoid such embarrassment, people present at the speech will be banned from filming the speeches of officials. The official video will be checked by specially trained people, corrected and allowed to publish media. And then you will not see the unsightly low culture, lack of education, slang speech kooky of the acting official.
          1. aglet
            aglet 6 November 2018 11: 47
            +1
            Quote: Qwertyarion
            they also want to work in state. apparatus.

            in addition, working in the state apparatus brings not weak income, and then a decent pension
      2. free
        free 6 November 2018 13: 43
        +2
        Quote: Qwertyarion
        Yes, you really need to figure it out. Maybe the athlete really had no malicious intent, maybe there are simply no brains. And you don’t need to fire, who will work? Judging by how such Glatsky are annealed in the media, they sit in posts through one.
        We must be sympathetic to the lack of intelligence, tact and not knowing what we can say, to whom and where.

        It is not a matter of malice, but of the class character of society. Read carefully what she said? Here are her words. "young people believe that the state owes them everything. No, you the state generally does not owe anything"The key word here is you, you shouldn't. And who should then? After all, speaking to you, she has already split society into you and us. The state should not owe you anything (having no control levers and moved away from financial flows), but we who have the levers management and finance is a completely different matter here for you and 1,5 million per month and other nishtyaki. Whom she has in mind when she tells you it's easy to understand, these are ordinary people, workers, employees, pensioners, unemployed, students, etc. the capitalist has a class structure, as soon as you understand this, it will become clear why capitalist society is so unfair, why the workers whose hands make everything the poorest and most powerless.
    4. Machito
      Machito 6 November 2018 09: 27
      +6
      The Minister of Youth - the less youth, the less work, and the salary is dripping. She voiced the wet dreams of the State Department: to reduce the population of Russia to 15 million people.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 6 November 2018 12: 18
        -2
        How do we react? Everyone ran to become large, quickly wassat
  4. Baloo
    Baloo 6 November 2018 07: 54
    +18
    This is proved by my own example, when in 15 years I became an Olympic champion, in which my parents undoubtedly deserve, the help of the state and my own hard work.

    It would be better if she read a couple of smart books. Does she have children herself? The Soviet Union was strong in supporting the compulsory secondary education, medicine, and children's sports that were generally accessible to all. I myself went without my mother and everywhere I enrolled in circles, sections, libraries.
    Should she think about it. Not entertaining is necessary for educating young people, but education, health, a patriotic value system.
    1. kot28.ru
      kot28.ru 6 November 2018 08: 05
      +16
      In modern Russia, the word "official" will soon become obscene, and by the actions of the officials themselves!
      1. sib.ataman
        sib.ataman 6 November 2018 08: 17
        -2
        So it was at all times! Signs at the gates of the state are changing, but nothing is changing in the state itself!
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother 6 November 2018 08: 38
      +9
      Quote: Balu
      It would be better if she read a couple of smart books.

      Athletes do not read books.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 6 November 2018 09: 06
        +5
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Quote: Balu
        It would be better if she read a couple of smart books.

        Athletes do not read books.

        understand yes They have no time, they work. "Here Mamaev and Kokorin are tired, sometimes they have to relax. Finally, we sat down to rest.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 6 November 2018 09: 19
          0
          Quote: Balu
          I understand They have no time, they work "

          They are simply not interested, they are not used to the process of processing information, and not training at the Institute of Physical Education does not contribute to this.
          Quote: Balu
          Here mothers with Kokorin are getting tired,

          laughing
        2. Machito
          Machito 6 November 2018 09: 30
          +5
          Give the athletes and officials a salary ten times lower. Why should pensioners and children tighten their belts?
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 6 November 2018 10: 03
            +3
            Quote: Bearded
            Give the athletes and officials a salary ten times lower.

            Officials will beat the difference back, and sponsors pay the salaries to athletes, and those who have no sponsors, they ruin their health for inexpensive - they will go around the world if they are "ten times" reduced.
  5. kolkulon
    kolkulon 6 November 2018 07: 54
    +10
    Taken out of context) Here is a creature.
    1. minus
      minus 6 November 2018 08: 03
      +9
      Well, yes .... Some and here on the site said that she said everything else in the case. wassat And I got gag reflexes only after one use of the word "coworking". am
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 6 November 2018 08: 23
        +5
        wassat coworking wassat this is already apparently "education" to show. I will not even look for what it means. Sounds like a dirty word
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 6 November 2018 07: 56
    +20
    These are echoes of Gaidar-Chubais: the state owes no one, the market will regulate everything!
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 51
      0
      With regard to the people, the Putin-Medvedev government has fulfilled all the precepts of Yegor Gaidar. Only not vnaglyak, but quietly, under the screen of a fake social program. The only deviation is that the new-new bars decided to stir up their business, not to share with the Westerners. Build, so to speak, your own New Jerusalem, your own. Physical protection was needed - army and navy, patriotism and military personnel, plus a bit of techies. So "the rich are crying", they are just torn apart - how to protect capital, and so as not to reduce profits. But for now, the “patriotic” part of the “Elita” is courageously holding on to two moving chairs. The liberal part of the "Elita" is watching, - Either they eat the fish, or sit on something. We are waiting for taxes on laughter, on tears, on the wind, on the rain. It's all according to Khoja Nasreddin, because you can't drink the classics.
  7. Deune
    Deune 6 November 2018 07: 59
    +7
    This is where they are found?
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 November 2018 08: 19
      +4
      where are they found?
      They are grown.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 November 2018 08: 20
      +7
      Quote: DeRune
      This is where they are found?

      They are propagated by budding and vaccinations on “Unity” (“Bear”), then on “Fatherland - All Russia”, then on “Our Home - Russia” and after that on the party “United Russia” ...
      And why only on this tree is not built up. It’s time to treat some branches with secateurs - from them there are no flowers, no leaves, no fruits ...
      1. Machito
        Machito 6 November 2018 09: 35
        +6
        We eat a party called Russia. They will not get drunk on livestock.
        The Popular Front organized, ha.
        When they fought with the Turks - the front was Turkish, when with the Germans - German. And the Popular Front, he is against the people. And the people know who is on this front.
        1. Winnie76
          Winnie76 6 November 2018 10: 10
          +3
          Quote: Bearded
          When they fought with the Turks - the front was Turkish, when with the Germans - German. And the Popular Front, he is against the people.

          By your logic, there were already three fronts with Ukrainians. Well, with Belarusians
      2. andrew42
        andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 40
        0
        Yes, there is no need to process it. Nurseries of parasites do not process. Here complete disinfection is needed, reclamation, and planting of a new resistant culture.
  8. Fedorov
    Fedorov 6 November 2018 08: 02
    +21
    29 years old. The vestibular apparatus in the head is, on the chest there are three orders, a higher education, but it turns out the brain that a butterfly has. All this is sad.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 6 November 2018 08: 16
      0
      Quote: Fedorov
      Sad it all

      She is a sovereign man, she must think what she says
      1. Fedorov
        Fedorov 6 November 2018 08: 21
        +10
        Or maybe there is a specific failure in the education and selection system? Not judged by reason, but for some merits with mental activity are not particularly associated? Examples of a car - Karelin, Valuev, Klitschko, Bubka .. I will not say that they are stupid ", but the fact is the fact.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 6 November 2018 08: 51
          +2
          Tretiak, Pie, Rodnina, Karelin, Chepikov, Drachev, Zhurova, Safin, Zinnurov, Fetisov, Valuev,
          Gazaev, Saitiev, Karpov, Taymazov .... Total 15 people
      2. AUL
        AUL 6 November 2018 08: 43
        +12
        And what do you want from an athlete, be she at least three times a genius gymnast (or who is she there)? The Olympic champion means that all my childhood passed in training and competitions, I didn’t see the light of white, there’s no reason to think, the coach thinks and decides for her. She collected orders, went into circulation - and they built an obedient post to the position ... of a near man. So she believed in her wisdom. And to direct some direction in power is not to jump on mats. Housekeeping lead - do not shake your breasts!
        Perhaps she is a brilliant athlete, since she took Olympic gold. But in power she is clearly out of place!
        1. Machito
          Machito 6 November 2018 09: 38
          +4
          In Russia, such government talents sit in all government posts. Just not everyone is scorching. The state service replaced the recitiers of the 90s.
    2. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 6 November 2018 08: 20
      +6
      Such is the modern education system in the Russian Federation! The hunchbacked bald eltsinoids did a great job!
  9. K-50
    K-50 6 November 2018 08: 09
    +10
    Just our bureaucrats snickered at the end and think that the state is THEIR feeding trough, and the state does not owe anything to the rest. request
    This is proved by my own example, when in 15 years I became an Olympic champion, in which my parents undoubtedly deserve, the help of the state and my own hard work.

    No matter how super-duper parents were, nothing would have happened without the help of the state. And why it helped her, but she refuses this help to others. Sucked on?
    Dismiss !!! Send to "free bread", let there somewhere show his talent to stick. am
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 6 November 2018 08: 21
      0
      How to judge. Perhaps she meant that in addition to help, she herself must strive for something
      1. gor999
        gor999 7 November 2018 04: 02
        +1
        I agree that you need to rely only on yourself and strive to achieve everything without any help. BUT, what she meant there, and what she said is somehow not correlated. In the first case, it is unknown, in the second, a fact that everyone has heard.
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 6 November 2018 08: 37
      0
      I wonder what it helped her in the 90s, early 2000s, before she made her way to the national team. Gymnastics is a highly competitive sport, it is necessary to plow there. And the only thing she’s right about is that young people also owe the state. And then give us everything, but we will give you nothing. We also need to strain ourselves. The Soviet Union, alas, is long over. I raise 4 children and do not whine that someone owes me, much less the state. Of course, it helps a little, but I instill in children that with my mind and work everything must be achieved.
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 6 November 2018 10: 37
        +1
        Quote: K-612-O
        And the only thing she’s right about is that young people also owe the state.

        No need to juggle. She said that the state does not owe anything.
        Quote: K-612-O
        And then give us everything, but we will give you nothing.

        And again - do not distort.
        Quote: K-612-O
        I raise 4 children and do not whine that someone owes me, much less the state.

        Of course you don’t whine, but it should. The state should not buy Mercedes for space grandmothers, but support us. And we will support him.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 6 November 2018 10: 42
          +1
          Does it not support you? State subsidies - please, tax breaks - please, preferential mortgage, mat capital, child support, baby food, 3 years decree. Cons, I do not argue, a lot. But the dependent approach also does not need to be cultivated. People who are proud of the fact that they do not pay taxes often told me that the state owed them.
          1. andrew42
            andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 37
            0
            The so-called "state support" by you is an empty package for a beggar, a props, a dummy and an excuse. Covered with deceitful "minimum wages", "consumer basket", understated inflation and other "statistics". It will get to the point that this term "statistics" will soon become more abusive than "democracy". All this is abundantly flavored by the removal of this "state" from any real economic regulation in general. Real regulation, not declarations of mumbled "menisters" who have "wage growth". Almost everything has become paid, free services have been emasculated, they are on paper, in fact - nicht. There are pensions left - they will finish it soon. And where did it start, remind? - I'll tell you. With "monetization of benefits". Everything that is monetized is subject to depreciation, otherwise "nafik finally" monetization is needed.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 6 November 2018 11: 45
        +3
        I wonder what it helped her in the 90s, early 2000s, before she made her way to the national team.

        Um ... did she have any medical care in her childhood? Probably not under the fence, her mother gave birth, but in an equipped hospital with qualified personnel.
        Education. She had studied somewhere.
        Before joining the national team, she also did gymnastics somewhere. After all, she organized a circle in which she was engaged, financially provided, trained a trainer,
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 6 November 2018 11: 56
          +2
          And her parents paid for it, as well as challenges for training camps and competitions. Everything was at his own expense, he was engaged in sports in the 90s. They paid for almost everything. And this at the same time in the sports school.
      3. aglet
        aglet 6 November 2018 11: 52
        +2
        Quote: K-612-O
        The Soviet Union, alas, is long over.

        Do you think everything fell from the sky in the Soviet Union? it was necessary to work there, and in order to live well, it was necessary to work well. however, there were no problems with work
    3. free
      free 6 November 2018 09: 30
      +2
      Quote: K-50
      Just our bureaucrats snickered at the end and think that the state is THEIR feeding trough, and the state does not owe anything to the rest. request
      This is proved by my own example, when in 15 years I became an Olympic champion, in which my parents undoubtedly deserve, the help of the state and my own hard work.

      No matter how super-duper parents were, nothing would have happened without the help of the state. And why it helped her, but she refuses this help to others. Sucked on?
      Dismiss !!! Send to "free bread", let there somewhere show his talent to stick. am

      Is it possible to dismiss them and how to do it if only people who have no legal leverage are indignant. For those who are above, this is the norm.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 6 November 2018 11: 49
        +1
        Is it possible to dismiss them and how to do it if only people who have no legal leverage are indignant. For those who are above, this is the norm.

        Here you can specifically dismiss this. A little more public noise and that and you look will be relieved of duties. But to solve the problem systematically in the whole country, but at all levels of government ... I doubt it very much. Here we need very serious measures to restructure the whole society, and only a very strong dictatorship can do this.
        Well, and besides - here you’ll fire her and where is the guarantee that a person will come to her place, at least not worse, I'm not talking about better?
      2. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 7 November 2018 07: 13
        0
        Yesterday and fired. No wonder we were indignant
    4. alexmach
      alexmach 6 November 2018 11: 42
      0
      Judging by the biography on free breads, she was just recently.
  10. Vard
    Vard 6 November 2018 08: 12
    +3
    Maybe for them what courses to open ... Like telling how ordinary people live and what you can say and what you can’t ...
  11. ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 6 November 2018 08: 15
    0
    It was then necessary to be obscene in the army. You look, the motivation would be off scale winked
  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 November 2018 08: 18
    0
    Something seems to me that macaroni number two will get rid of punishment.
    By the way, here is a good article
    58-10. Propaganda or agitation containing a call for the overthrow, undermining or weakening of Soviet power or for the commission of certain counter-revolutionary crimes (Articles 58-2 - 58-9), as well as distribution or production or storage of literature of the same content entail - deprivation of liberty for a period of not less than six months.
    The same actions during mass unrest or using religious or national prejudices of the masses, or in a military situation, or in areas declared martial law: the punishment is similar to Article 58-2.
    Only replace the words Soviet power with the State or, if you will, the Russian Federation.
  13. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 6 November 2018 08: 19
    +2
    Well said. Sometimes it’s hard to convey your thoughts to the rest completely. For me, the state is obliged to take care of it, since we support it, and the parents. And young people should not forget about why we are raising them. Not pets
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 6 November 2018 08: 20
    +7
    Why did she confirm this, deny it?
    Shaw is not a social state, it should be clear to everyone!
    Shaw state, like any other, where power expresses the interests of only one part of society, small, but influential and rich!
    She blurted out without thinking, although they must have been taught at their seminars, and the manuals certainly indicate how to and how not to say! Well, I couldn’t.
    For a long time already officials do not limit themselves very much, keep within the framework !!! So here and from the very top this "pours", so sho every little thing does not limit itself!
    Nothing new, everything is natural! Only it is necessary not to start round dances not about any trifle, but to think hard how to survive with such power and ourselves, as our community, to save!
  15. tlauicol
    tlauicol 6 November 2018 08: 27
    +5
    what is there to be surprised if "businessmen become rulers, and bazaar speculators, athletes and artists become deputies."
  16. Jerk
    Jerk 6 November 2018 08: 28
    +2
    "They are terribly far from the people" (c)
  17. TOPchymBA
    TOPchymBA 6 November 2018 08: 34
    +3
    There is nothing to be surprised at. After it became fashionable to invite famous personalities such as athletes, actors, singers, etc. to power structures
    Yes, these people need to be proud of their achievements in sports, cinema, etc. but this does not mean at all that they will be good legislators or leaders. Quite the contrary. the brains of people’s abilities are approximately equal, and if in one area you are special then in other profane. Yes there are child prodigies but they are exceptions and not the rule. Therefore, there will be more such pearls. And the lady without thinking (for nothing) voiced what she heard in her entourage.
  18. Senior manager
    Senior manager 6 November 2018 08: 36
    +1
    In no case do I protect the official, but at this time, the Soviet stereotype of state debt is still passed on to the children by their parents. As a result, children blame everyone for their failures or failure, but not themselves. At the very guy like that. And the official has to advise her to work silently, since there is no ability to formulate and articulate her beliefs is not ambiguous.
  19. Megamarcel
    Megamarcel 6 November 2018 08: 36
    +7
    1,5 million rubles a year. This is 125 thousand per month. Amid Moscow salaries, it is above average. Against the background of the region in which probably one of the maximum values ​​works. Why emphasis is placed on this is not entirely clear, but still a bit too much. Tea is not a hazardous production. It seems to me that she does not work out the assigned amount. Regarding the role of the state, the question is interesting. If it does not owe us anything, then why do we need it? That is, officials do not forget to collect taxes. For this great goal they need the people. And how to report to the people for the collected funds, so we do not owe you anything. Recall the same pension fund. We collected, collected, and then bam and decided that we would gradually cancel the pensions ... Excellent business scheme! With transport and other taxes, this approach is also evident.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 6 November 2018 09: 22
      +1
      Quote: MegaMarcel
      1,5 million rubles a year. This is 125 thousand per month. Amid Moscow salaries, it is above average. Against the background of the region in which probably one of the maximum values ​​works. Why the emphasis is on this is not entirely clear,

      Yes, then, that she blurted out, as if officials were working for a penny.
      1. Megamarcel
        Megamarcel 6 November 2018 19: 56
        +2
        Well, those who are henchmen and appointees are certainly not for a penny. Take the same governor of the MO. Only the PR budget is worth it. And he lives essno not in the house for 5-10 million rubles. There is only one residence of several hundred million rubles. And how many of them are a big secret. Even with zp in a million rubles a month, he would save up all his labor activity for this house. At the same time, even in a rich region, there are a lot of problems that begin to be solved only when the situation reaches the point of absurdity. And why? Because he is his own. And they are not afraid of the people, but of their homies. As if those piece of cake was not taken away.
  20. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 November 2018 08: 38
    +6
    Is it really not clear for a long time that it is necessary to take on the civil service, focusing not on face and sports achievements, but on education and practical experience. Stumbled upon former athletes and artists in the State Duma, regional authorities focused on their recognition by the people, and now almost every week they smooth out scandals that arose due to the simple recklessness and lack of education of officials at various levels. It's time to do a lot of party cleansing.
  21. demo
    demo 6 November 2018 08: 40
    +1
    As soon as the words openly come from the lips of officials, in principle, representing the state — the state does not owe you anything, then the very same state can hear the opposite — we owe nothing to this state.
    And this will be the end of everything and everything.
    Sport is the only place in a person-state social relationship where everything depends on talent, perseverance and a person’s desire to show himself.
    Otherwise, without the participation of the state, you will not do anything.
    The state’s participation in the fate of its citizens is the state policy.
    Not from a great mind, this woman blurted out such a thing.
    But athletes get 50% discount.
    1. Gumma
      Gumma 6 November 2018 08: 54
      +1
      For such words, not the athlete should be reproached, but the governor. Chuika should be with him (and not with her)! He must know who can be admitted to the microphone, and who must sit in the office with his mouth shut. And with the president - which governor to appoint and where. And among the people - which president to elect, which governor will appoint, which mouth will be sewn up to whom, and who will give the microphone. And the people are me. Dialectics, sir!
  22. Shurale
    Shurale 6 November 2018 08: 42
    0
    If she could "pull" her words out of context, push her where the blaster does not shine, you see, people's choices will start keeping their thoughts with them ...
  23. Prometey
    Prometey 6 November 2018 08: 51
    -5
    And because of what did indignation actually rise? What did this official say wrongly? She did not say that the state does not need young people, why, in fact, misinterpret the words. That's right - parents are responsible for their children. Not a single state can carry out total control over the upbringing and formation of the young generation. And what should the state be young? Provide with an apartment, a car, a wife / husband, a country house? Young people are already growing as consumers - just give, give. The fact that we now have no prospects in general in the country with work - so who has it at all, pensioners, hard workers?
    1. gor999
      gor999 7 November 2018 04: 27
      0
      Quote from Prometey: "No state is capable of exercising total control over the upbringing and formation of the young generation" - But this is an outright lie, it is upbringing, instilling certain values ​​in the young generation - that is one of the most important tasks of the State. In the USSR it was delivered very well.
  24. vagabo
    vagabo 6 November 2018 08: 51
    -4
    There is no desire to delve deeply into the essence of the problem of the abandoned phrase, for there are few of us who in our life could have blurted out. But personally, I am against bullying. She didn’t steal anything, she didn’t kill anyone. Mb even in life, she hasn’t done anything particularly bad to anyone. The fact that O. Galitsky is now working somewhere in regional structures does not cancel the fact that she is an OLYMPIC CHAMPION! And this alone probably did more for the Country than many of its critics. For some reason, they remind me more of the executioners, rapturously attacking the girl. I can not get rid of this thought. The fact that part of the youth lacks motivation, in the sense of all in life, is a medical fact. IMHO, she tried to say this, not too successfully and elegantly.
    1. BAI
      BAI 6 November 2018 08: 55
      +3
      From the same position, Makarevich can be estimated. And Akhedzhakova. If you deserve something, is everything possible?
      1. vagabo
        vagabo 6 November 2018 10: 44
        -2
        This cannot be compared, dear BAI. Makarevich and Akhedzhakova clearly and repeatedly formulated public position on the conceptual and vital issues for the country, which is deservedly criticized. In the case of O. Glatskikh - words from some polemic with a group of young people where it is generally not known who is right. Did you listen to the whole conversation? From the published snippets, the course of her thoughts is clear. Well, she blurted out hotly, trying to awaken the interlocutor's consciousness (apparently not very awakened). Yes, the expressions picked up are not the most successful. But, in my opinion, this is not the case to spread rot like that.
        And in general it is not clear why to put this fan on a site on a military theme?
        1. BAI
          BAI 6 November 2018 11: 00
          +1
          This is not a fan. The tendency is already beginning to take shape - they removed it for macaroshki, they removed it for "nothing should". Officials should be held accountable for their words. If he blurts out anything - then it is not in its place. It seems that the authorities are concerned about this and are starting to react to public opinion somehow. I hope the September elections were not in vain. After all, there are also elections in 2019.
          1. vagabo
            vagabo 6 November 2018 11: 45
            -2
            The word, of course, is not a sparrow; if you catch it, you fly out. :) Of course, I should try to filter. But all the same, one must answer not for words, but for deeds, or rather, for the result. And only in this way can the effectiveness of an official and not an official be evaluated and, yes, 2 Winnie 76, a plumber from the Housing Office. We will not judge Uncle Vasya for the fact that he went out into the censored space so many times, while the man-made disaster eliminated. The main thing for us will be that the pipe no longer flows.
            In general, here you can argue ad infinitum. But this problem is empty. That's why I say that the fan is out of place even once. It’s unpleasant for me that a person is generally persuaded for nothing, like the last reptile on a stick. Yes, and I sincerely believe that the Olympic champion is cool and important for the country.
        2. andrew42
          andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 25
          0
          In the heat of the day, the most intimate is blurred. The people are aware of this.
    2. Winnie76
      Winnie76 6 November 2018 11: 00
      +4
      Quote: vagabo
      does not cancel the fact that she is an OLYMPIC CHAMPION! And this alone probably did more for the Country than many of its critics.

      What did she do? Uncle Vasya, a plumber from the Housing Office, brings more benefits per day than this chicken with hula hoops for life.
      Quote: vagabo
      The fact that part of the youth lacks motivation, in the sense of all in life, is a medical fact.

      From the works of the righteous, you cannot make stone chambers. Russian folk wisdom. What can be the motivation in our country with a negative selection. If you work hard all your life in the workplace, you may live to a beggarly pension. If you go to officials, judges, clowns or just thieves - you will have everything ...
  25. BAI
    BAI 6 November 2018 08: 54
    +5
    Better than Cord, you can’t say:
    The state should not be our point.
    We are biomass, human mucus.
    We are all, I, you, my son and your daughter,
    We were actually not born to anything.
    In general, claims should be brought not to the snotty fool, but to those who awarded her orders and appointed her to the post.
    1. tomket
      tomket 6 November 2018 10: 44
      0
      Quote: BAI
      In general, claims should be brought not to the snotty fool, but to those who awarded her orders and appointed her to the post.
      Reply

      To the Guarantor? To the President ?? To Putin ??? What are you saying ???)))
    2. aglet
      aglet 6 November 2018 11: 56
      0
      Quote: BAI

      Better than Cord

      thanks for the quote
  26. 3vs
    3vs 6 November 2018 08: 55
    +3
    "The statement of Olga Glatskikh, who, although she apologized, but in a very peculiar way, continues to cause a negative reaction in society. And the reason is not so much in a" single "official as in a trend. One argues that people could live well enough , 3,5 thousand rubles, buying "macaroshka", another says that the state in the country owes nothing to anyone, the third talks about the incredible growth of salaries among the population. In the end, it turns out that people "misinterpret the words of officials, taking them out of context." "

    Yes, such a generation has grown ...
    Give such power, they will dispose of "extra" people and pensioners ...
    And the most important thing is that this is the "personnel reserve" of our president ...
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 6 November 2018 12: 17
      0
      Women at first speak, and then cannot remember what they were talking about ... Kinder, Küche, Kirche = children, kitchen, church It seems to me that in the old German formula “children, kitchen, church” there is a rational kernel. In an ideal society, a woman is the head of the family, and this means that she leads the house, gives birth and brings up children, is the center of the "cell of society", her soul, her meaning. This is a gigantic job, but she can handle it
  27. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 6 November 2018 08: 59
    +5
    Another "official" from "sport" ... I learned where to raise my legs. They recruited mistresses, thank them with their positions ... Ladies and imagined themselves to be "smart arbiters" of destinies ... Divorced you understand ... DECORATION .... at public expense!
  28. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 6 November 2018 09: 11
    +1
    She, in her circle of communication, expresses her mood, and cannot be silent or talk about anything or is not able to. Such bureaucrats.
  29. Evil 55
    Evil 55 6 November 2018 09: 14
    +8
    At the age of 29, two orders and two medals .. A dummy "from a gymnastic apparatus", no brains, no tact, no conscience .. .. Where and what is her valor? Some have not had so many in four years of the bloodiest war in history .. "What's the truth, Brother?"
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 22
      0
      Tooting. In short, in the correspondence duel "Kokorin vs Prokhorenko", Mr. Kokorin won a landslide victory, even when he was in jail.
  30. depressant
    depressant 6 November 2018 09: 36
    +3
    It turns out that the state and the people happened to be on the same territory. The state stared: "Who are you here?" The people: "I am the people, here I protect, protect, lay down lives, produce material values. In general, I sow and blow." The state is sour: "Nu-nu ... This-this is more fun! To the right this, to the left this! ... I will learn not to notice you ..."
  31. shubin
    shubin 6 November 2018 09: 38
    0
    Oh come on people! Che attacked ?! Beauty, athlete, on figs she also mind? I wanted to say one thing, but blurted out another! You reread Klitschko at your leisure! laughing
  32. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 6 November 2018 09: 40
    0
    I read the article ... I read the comments ... I am surprised at you gentlemen ... Did anyone besides the article and part of the statement take an interest in the whole speech of the Glatsky O.? Well, at least out of curiosity or what?
    The phrase is really taken out of the context of speech. There are a lot of interesting things in speech ...
    And about the fact that the state should not owe anything to any children already rub their eyes? It may already be time to honestly admit that the state is made up of citizens and each individual citizen does not owe anything to the neighbor's child. In general, the state in the Russian Federation owes a lot to whom, but this should be social programs that people should apply for and this should not turn into dependency. And about the envy of income, I would generally be silent on the site of members of the forum. Compare her income and the income of the head of the regional direction in private firms ... maybe not even at Gazprom or Sberbank ... take something simpler and even in this case your surprise may not be limitless. So the rogues receive according to their posts, including those who are very envious of other people's incomes.
    1. depressant
      depressant 6 November 2018 11: 16
      +2
      Every citizen owes nothing to a neighbor's child?!? You are mistaken, dear! Here we all participated in raising our neighbors' children, making them the right remarks in cases of incorrect children's actions - parents can not always keep track of children playing in the yard. This was our collective contribution to their upbringing. Believe me, sometimes it was worth the nerves! As a result, beautiful children grew up. Remember, there are no other children! We all owe them!
      1. Aleks2048
        Aleks2048 6 November 2018 11: 43
        -1
        Dear ... I must and of my own free will help things different. And if you personally do not understand this, then this is simply a fact of your biography.
        1. depressant
          depressant 6 November 2018 14: 35
          0
          Alex, if you are talking to me ... Are our things so bad? Is this the level of atomization we have achieved? Well, congratulations on the victory of bureaucracy over justice. It can be seen that the bifurcation point is indeed passed.
          1. Aleks2048
            Aleks2048 6 November 2018 15: 40
            0
            Sorry, but the USSR ended back in 1991. Everything has changed. You cannot drag old values ​​into a new system.
  33. ioan-e
    ioan-e 6 November 2018 09: 45
    +3
    Extra evidence that the people only interfere with the officials to live the way they want! And about the apology, the statement on the table is the best apology!
  34. lucul
    lucul 6 November 2018 10: 00
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    Nobel laureate in physics, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences Zhores Alferov asks a completely reasonable question.

    “If a citizen is forced to pay for education and medical services, to accumulate a pension from his own funds, to pay housing and utilities in full at the market price, then why do I need such a state ?! Why should I still pay taxes and maintain a crazy army of officials? he always said at all levels that health care, education and science should be provided from the budget. If the state puts this concern on us, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us! "

    No need to be a puppet in the wrong hands. We are undermined by the Zionists from within - with such an attitude towards the authorities - no one will defend the authorities and the country. This is what our enemies are seeking by discrediting power at all levels, forcing their decoy ducks into the vertical of power. This is a multi-doorway from our Zionist enemies.
    Regarding this "chicken" - it voices what the authorities are talking about behind the scenes.
    I just want to remind this "chicken" - that if the state owes nothing to the people, then the people also owe nothing to the state - neither pay taxes, nor die in war.
    Here there is a violation of the cause-effect relationship, or simply, they do not see beyond their own nose.
    1. depressant
      depressant 6 November 2018 11: 23
      +1
      Zionists? Don’t tell! Power itself undermines self-confidence without any Zionists. Our government has the most brilliant abilities, in fact, the only ones possible, do not expect the presence of useful ones!
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 7 November 2018 09: 59
      0
      Yes, Alferov formulated everything correctly. Just didn't complete the "necessary condition" enough. Or cut it off ... It remains to add just one sentence: "We need ANOTHER, socially oriented state." There is no universal equality, but justice has not been canceled. Pay according to work, according to the degree of responsibility - YES, at the expense of the elderly and children - NO. The government, officials, - a salary in minimum wages (even if 1000 minimum wages, but they have birthmarks). Judges of all levels - to impute jurisdiction. Moratorium on the tower - cancel. For theft in especially large ones with the use of official position - execution with confiscation. That's all you need .. It remains to find political strength. But today there is none. Therefore, the Russian people are successfully parasitized by "capitalism sharks", their clerks are top managers, and these second-order parasites are served by servants "politicians / athletes" and other "artists". Half of Moscow lives on this, and a third of St. Petersburg.
  35. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 6 November 2018 10: 10
    +3
    Why is this state necessary then? It is unconstitutional, it leads the genocide of the Slavic population by continuing to call it Russian, imposes Jewish religions, deprives the past of the people, replacing it with its vile present, milks the population, although the constitution is SOCIAL !!!!
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 6 November 2018 10: 47
      0
      Quote: lopuhan2006
      planting Jewish religions

      Sorry, about Orthodoxy, or what?
      1. lopuhan2006
        lopuhan2006 6 November 2018 10: 57
        0
        What do you think? Since when did the Russian Orthodox Church begin to be called Orthodox? And the fact that Orthodoxy is from Dreveslovensky (Rule, Glory, Nav, those polytheism!) Is so generally Jewish monotheistic religions! And there I believe in God, and not in Gods like our Slavic peoples. They gave you a candy wrapper, and you don’t even bother to see that there is no candy. Read 1 page in the Bible, everything is already written there about God and man and woman in the image and likeness and about the Lord who created the earthly Adam-naga out of the dust ..... People read and ask questions !!!!
        1. depressant
          depressant 6 November 2018 11: 32
          0
          Dear, faith does not imply questions in this situation. Our Lord is Omnipresent, Almighty, Our Gracious Lord - the last support in our disunity from the state. Only him. Do not deprive!
          1. lopuhan2006
            lopuhan2006 6 November 2018 11: 55
            0
            Uuuuuhtyzh ... So you first decide on God who created in the image of his man and woman, who went to sleep on the 7th day, or while the Lord God began to create creatures from the dust of the earth. Do you believe in God, Gods, the Lord, Jesus (and is he even a god?), If Jesus is a god (actually, Yoshua is Jehovah, glorify him), then how is it that you have one god? Return to the roots and your family. Leave the Jews to Jehovah, and the Vedic culture, which should be brought closer to the Slavic peoples at least to people, still say that the Russian and Ukrainian nation exist)
            1. andrew42
              andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 14
              0
              I support. Dad and mom should be trusted, grandfather and grandmother, and not benefactors. There is no need to lie. All the troubles of the human race from the opposite. Even the Jewish Holy Byblle confirms this by the example of theirs Eve and the Snake-Tempter. But we are not familiar. We are all looking for our root, as they say, in the direction of the Midday, and in the direction of the Sunset ... And the root is here from!
        2. astepanov
          astepanov 6 November 2018 14: 27
          0
          Quote: lopuhan2006
          People read and ask questions !!!!

          And what reason should I rush about with religion, like someone with a written Torah? To me these troubles on the drum and to the bulb.
          1. andrew42
            andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 16
            0
            But in vain. The narratives of an ideological adversary must be studied. Then there is no need to scold the children that they went to play thimbles, the late one will rush about ..
        3. andrew42
          andrew42 7 November 2018 10: 06
          0
          Since the time of Nikon (or even earlier), unfortunately, the so-called "Orthodox" church was and is a servant of the secular government. May the holy elders and ascetics forgive me, but they would hardly have objected themselves. And even "Peter the Antichrist" has nothing to do with it, there is nothing to hang all the dogs on Petrusha. For the result is obvious. -in 1917 the Russian people DID NOT SPEAK to defend "their" religion. Unlike the same Basmachi, albeit on a British leash - which only confirms the speed of mobilization with the help of the religious factor.
  36. tomket
    tomket 6 November 2018 10: 40
    -1
    Okay, will they give her a kick in the ass, or is she an irreplaceable particularly valuable shot? Well, there is a friend of the guarantor, a friend of Kabaeva, a member of United Russia, who else can you be there, what would it all let go on the brakes?
  37. astepanov
    astepanov 6 November 2018 10: 45
    +2
    It's not about words. The fact is that the lady, out of naivety, voiced the existing realities, forgetting that state policy is one thing, and the noodles that she is supposed to hang on her ears for is something completely different. However, this is not new: in the Soviet song it was sung: "And wherever I am, and whatever I do, I am in eternal debt to the Motherland." That is how we live.
  38. BAI
    BAI 6 November 2018 10: 55
    +1
    The head of the youth policy department of the Sverdlovsk region, Olga Glatsky, was temporarily removed from office.

    The decision to remove the Glatsky on November 6 was made by the governor of the Sverdlovsk region, Evgeny Kuyvashev. It is noted that the decision will be valid for the duration of the internal audit.
  39. Berkut24
    Berkut24 6 November 2018 11: 05
    +2
    And some say that the revolt in Russia is senseless and merciless. In fact, he seems senseless because no one complains about anything and does not believe in anything, but simply falls into a rage from the arrogance, greed and crowned status of officials. From this follows ruthlessness, for already "everything ..."
    Actually, the stupid faith of officials that we pay taxes on their salaries gives them the promise to think that we pay little and demand too much.
    Dear (in the monetary sense) officials! Frankly, we don’t need you at all. We pay for state affairs to be done for us taxpayers. And while we tolerate you, because someone has to do this work. Now they eat most of the taxes. You are too many. Especially looking at the fact that every new computer designed to reduce the staff department does not reduce anything, but only spawns another support department. Do not teach us life, you are our servants, do not be impudent. In order not to ask why and why so cruelly.
    Damn, our country will collapse to the West, and artists and athletes ...
  40. Ural resident
    Ural resident 6 November 2018 11: 14
    +2
    I will not comment on the words of the official - I think that officials of course should filter their "phrases". BUT fundamentally wrong question. The state should, should not, asked not asked. Who is the state? Putin, or some kind of person who distributes something? The state is primarily ourselves. If someone litters after a rest on the lake or is rude on the road - then this is us - that is, the state. If we decide that we have to do something, then the corresponding law is adopted. And children, of course, need to be taught to work, increase civic responsibility and not wait for someone to bring something on a silver platter. If we want changes, we need to engage in social activities, register public organizations and promote our views. We have generally silence with this, there are few active people, very few, basically everyone thinks about himself, and people prefer to "relax" more than spend their time on public affairs. So I think the message for young people is correct: work hard, achieve everything yourself and help others. This is the State.
    1. depressant
      depressant 6 November 2018 12: 00
      -1
      Excuse me, where do active people come from? The Russian Federation corrected the error of the USSR - it opened the gates wide open. So our passionaries merge over a hill of 200-300 thousand people a year. And laws to help that - an active person are wide open to meet other gates - prison. So only stupid fuses remain active. Well, do not unite with them!
    2. vagabo
      vagabo 6 November 2018 12: 09
      0
      2 Resident of the Urals. Gold words!
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 7 November 2018 09: 43
      0
      Resident of the Urals, the slogan is good, but that's all. Your slogan was proposed in the situation "here are the grenades, do you see the tanks? - achieve everything yourself." This time. Second, what should we strive for? - So far, the authorities of oligarchs and monetarist managers have not offered and will not offer only personal enrichment and success, other imperatives. But, as the hero of Kaidanovsky used to say in the movie "One among strangers ..": "This! This is necessary for one! And not for everyone! Well, do not be an idiot!" The number of potential "successful" is objectively limited by the number of those for whom banquet account. Especially in the conditions of all-consuming trade / distribution of services, without the development of the Productive Forces (a good term does not cease to be capacious, even if it is proposed by Marx). Since ancient times, the state has been created for the progress of the Community of people, and not for individual "successes" at the expense of all the others, which are "also of their own type." The state collapses when such individual "successes" completely eat away at the social community.
  41. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 November 2018 11: 15
    0
    allowed 29-year-old Ms. from Yekaterinburg,
    ... dismissed "Ms" from her post for "incorrect statement" pending clarification of all the circumstances ...
  42. Note 2
    Note 2 6 November 2018 11: 33
    +2
    In this case, people, on the idea of ​​not something to the state, should not let them live independently without taxes and fees from the people.
  43. Alex66
    Alex66 6 November 2018 11: 38
    +3
    Well, what can we expect from ordinary officials if the first one says: there is no money, but you hold on, another: the teacher is a vocation, if you need money, do you feel in business? The fish rots from the head!
  44. akudr48
    akudr48 6 November 2018 11: 57
    +2
    In the words of this not far-off but honest local noblewoman, as in a drop of water, the position of the entire layer of Russian patricians to the people is reflected. Without changing the ruling layer, nothing will change, it will only get worse.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 7 November 2018 11: 15
      0
      Vae victis! Woe to the vanquished! (Brenn, foot of the Capitol, 390 BC)
  45. AleBors
    AleBors 6 November 2018 12: 39
    0
    What else would you like to hear? Officials have long been a separate caste that can do everything.
    Did you go to the polls? so get it ...
  46. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 6 November 2018 12: 45
    0
    Not an adequate or not competent official - he thinks one thing and says something completely different. When they had to study, if they went in for sports.
  47. swyatoslav
    swyatoslav 6 November 2018 14: 17
    +1
    They will pick up such ads. Probably they wanted to raise their rating, due to the titled athlete.
    This is what they drop awkwardly at the hearing, but what do they silently do ????
    In Soviet times, there was a call to young people "everything is on the BAM", and now "everything is in power."
    New times - new landmarks ....
    We are "enjoying" the new wave of politicians.
  48. Larum
    Larum 6 November 2018 15: 12
    -1
    What is dissatisfied then? Not the first time.
    Medvedev, a boxer, officials said this ... the truth.

    A deputy with his connections costs more than 1 ordinary poor people.
    And without money they will interrupt, like .... all the same "unprecedented growth"
  49. tank64rus
    tank64rus 6 November 2018 15: 22
    +1
    Really "normal" words of which to almond serfs with children. This one here, there the policemen's right of "first night" was successfully revived. We already in feudalism capitalism slipped beyond the slave system.
  50. Yasen Ping
    Yasen Ping 6 November 2018 17: 08
    0
    Ekatirenburg keyword, people from the State Department dug in there, so no wonder ..