Sverdlovsk official: the state should "nothing" for children

Olga Glatsky, an official in the public service, director of the youth policy department of the Sverdlovsk region, during a roundtable with representatives of youth volunteer associations in Kirovgrad, said that the state of the youth “shouldn’t do anything,” and called on schoolchildren and their parents to look for development opportunities on their own.

During the round table, which took place on October 24 in the administration of Kirovgrad, in particular, the official said that today's young people get the impression that the state owes them something. “But no, the state should not give you anything (young people - approx.), But your parents should, because they gave birth to you, but the state did not ask to give birth to them,” she added.

Glatskih complained that it is not easy for the state to organize events and projects, and officials work for "three-handed salaries." Therefore, she stressed, children need to “combine the opportunities that the state provides with the capabilities of their parents or to find them themselves.” “The state does not owe you anything, you have to do everything yourself,” she said.

Glatskih, saying that officials, especially in the regions, have low salaries, added: young people with their parents, demanding something from the state, should remember this.

The head of the Sverdlovsk region, Yevgeny Kuvaishev, responded to this statement, who promised to “study the performance” and understand the situation.

Glatskih - Olympic champion in rhythmic gymnastics 2004. Head of the Youth Policy Department of the Sverdlovsk Region since 2016.

The statement of the official herself is published on the YouTube channel “Echo-TV24” “News Kirovgrad "in the general news clip:

Comments

[KAV]

Well, here's another "talented" one? Is it seasonal or what?
Moreover, she also said that the state did not ask parents to have children, and that’s why the state owes nothing to them. That is, it turns out that her statement is contrary to the state’s plans to improve demography!
This is masterpiece!

[Svarog]

She speaks on behalf of the state ... well, wait ... someone is clearly provoking an uprising ..

[The black]

The officials have become so hungry that they are not even able to hide their contempt for ordinary people under the guise of decency ..... and the worst thing is that there are plenty of such "servants". It's just that they are watching the language a little more. And this is the height of rudeness and cynicism. Such people should be fired immediately ..... although what am I talking about? after ... "there is no money, well, you keep there" I am not surprised at anything from the chief official

[Machito]

The Edinarians have already gotten with their macaroni. Eat yourself !!!!
Officials no longer hide their hatred of the people. It seems that only GDP does not want the Maidan. The rest of those who are in power directly beat with a hoof so that they are planted on the forks.
We make bets: will this talented manager be dismissed or not?

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: Bearded

We make bets: will this talented manager be dismissed or not?

I think in this case they will not be dismissed .. Although in public it is necessary to flog such representatives of the authorities ..

[Arh]

I think the state should help children !!!

[Gardamir]

I think the state should help children !!!

You're right. Moreover, here is a quote from the constitution

Chapter 2 Human Rights and Freedoms.
Article 38
1. Motherhood and childhood, the family are protected by the state.
2. Care for children, their upbringing is the equal right and duty of parents.
3. Employable children who have reached the age of 18 must take care of disabled parents.
Article 39
1. Everyone shall be guaranteed social security by age, in case of illness, disability, loss of a bread-winner, for raising children and in other cases established by law.
2. State pensions and social benefits are established by law.
3. Voluntary social insurance, the creation of additional forms of social security, and charity are encouraged.

That is, the statement of the next macaroni is unconstitutional.

[New Year day]

Quote: Gardamir

Article 39
1. Everyone is guaranteed social security by age,

and pension reform?

[Tatyana]

Glatskikh complained that it is not easy for the state to organize events and projects, and officials work for "three-kopeck salaries."
"The state owes you nothing, you must do everything yourself," she said.

This is the "official" - a renegade-scoundrel !!! Glatskikh became completely insolent - she completely lost the coast, like a servant of the people!
REFERENCE
Chastity - renegade, traitor, apostate, etc.
And the main thing is that

Glatskikh is the 2004 Olympic champion in rhythmic gymnastics.

But who would she be if not for our state ?! Which has invested so much in it without compensation! Her state, then, was due in due time, and now she is represented by a bureaucrat from the state to the people - no ?!
Or do our officials believe that they privatized the state for themselves from the people ?! And that the state is now their private property ?!

[private person]

So let the children go to the sports school to teach gymnastics. How did such a miracle take over such a post? Yes, the athletes will forgive me, but everyone knows how they "studied at school and other institutions" eternal fees and training and the grades were automatic. So let them do what they have learned, bring sports to the masses and do not sit in offices and do not meddle in thought.

[Stas157]

Quote: private person

Yes, the athletes will forgive me, but everyone knows how they "studied at school and other institutions" eternal fees and training and the grades were automatic.

Looking at many of today's athletes, evaluating their actions and brain activity, there is no doubt that they trained other parts of the body all their lives.

It is clear that today's Russia, according to Minister Fursenko, brings up first of all an ideal consumer (that is, a complete narcissistic egoist), but most officials still have enough sense not to substitute themselves - to pretend that they are "trying" for the sake of the people. Still, no, no, but somewhere it flows. Some narrow-minded representatives, sometimes honestly "let slip" about the true intentions of those in power.

[Tatyana]

Quote: private person

So let the children go to sports to teach gymnastics. How did such a miracle take such a post?

This flappy "chicken" does not have the corresponding specialized sports and pedagogical education. Therefore, this egoist should not even be allowed to train children. And she didn't want to be involved in coaching in the future.
REFERENCE
After the end of her sports career (in 16 years), Oga Glatsky in 2011 graduated from Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosov, specialty political scientist and in 2012, the Finance Academy under the Government of the Russian Federation, specialty Financial management.
In 2009 and 2010, she passed practice in the Administrative Department of the President of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation.
From 2011 to 2013, she served as an assistant to the head of the Federal Transport Supervision Service (Rostransnadzor) of the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation.
In the period from 2015 to 2016, she worked in the Polylog Consulting Group.
In 2016, she was president of the all-Russian physical-sports public organization promoting the development of rhythmic gymnastics and karate "Rus."
Since 2016 of the year - Director of the Department of Youth Policy of the Sverdlovsk Region

[ALEXXX1983]

Well, in fact, she just out of stupidity voiced what other officials think, but do not say out loud, except maybe honey when in a sauna with girls (or boys) "they think about the people."

[Vinnibuh]

Alex, I agree 100%

[not main]

Quote: private person

So let the children go to the sports school to teach gymnastics. How did such a miracle take over such a post? Yes, the athletes will forgive me, but everyone knows how they "studied at school and other institutions" eternal fees and training and the grades were automatic. So let them do what they have learned, bring sports to the masses and do not sit in offices and do not meddle in thought.

I completely agree! Well, no where in the world do athletes become officials or deputies! Such individuals simply dishonor and belittle honest athletes! And all the same, honest!

[Dimonk]

Well, yes, if you recall for example Valuev And so she really said what the current "servants" of the people think. And she is just their pupil, judging by her biography :( As they say through the mouth of a fool, she speaks their truth :(

[ihnovich990]

I support, of course, there are exceptions. And by the way, Valuev is not a very stupid man, unlike many chickens who came to the State Duma from some sports series, etc.

[your1970]

Quote: non-primary

Quote: private person

So let the children go to the sports school to teach gymnastics. How did such a miracle take over such a post? Yes, the athletes will forgive me, but everyone knows how they "studied at school and other institutions" eternal fees and training and the grades were automatic. So let them do what they have learned, bring sports to the masses and do not sit in offices and do not meddle in thought.

I completely agree! Well, no where in the world do athletes become officials or deputies! about

- modestly remind you of the fairly successful actors of President Reagan and Governor Schwarzenegger. About the gynecologist-Minister of Defense is not even a joke ....
Therefore, with the statement "Nowhere and never !!!!" be careful ...,.

[sabakina]

Quote: Tatiana

!!!

Tatyana, I have no words, even the letters fled! What is happening to the world? This is the state owes nothing ???

[mavrus]

It seems that this champion Irina Aleksandrovna Wiener paid for training from her (father's) pocket ...
When, in the "dashing and hungry" nineties, the state still found the means to educate champions ... then little Olechka took all this for granted. And now this girl, having put her ass in the bureaucratic chair, somehow immediately forgot how much effort and money the state spent on her.

[New Year day]

Quote: mavrus

this champion Irina Aleksandrovna Wiener paid for training from her (father's) pocket ...

Alisher Usmanov’s wife does not need her money

[Siberian]

And they didn’t go to the Olympiad (flying) at their own expense, and after that they won from state gifts. did not refuse. And no one knows the champion - this was 1 time and among others (team). But they believe that they have achieved something, have benefited the country, and they should. And all the rest are not. But the question is - why is she engaged in youth policy with such views? And then what does it do?

[Campanella]

The state was different, but now capitalism! That means we’ll sell our mother too.

[Shurik70]

The Saratov Minister, who said that 3500 rubles would be enough for a living wage, was fired instantly. But she did not know that she was being filmed, blurted out in a private conversation. Perhaps for fun. Perhaps it was a provocation.
This same said directly to the TV cameras. Let's see how the head of the Sverdlovsk region will react after "studying the materials." And if he does not dismiss this abomination, then he himself will not last long.

[Warrior-80]

You are mistaken, the miracle about the macaroni also openly spoke knowing that they were taking it off, so that they weren’t afraid of anything. And this miracle in feathers is probably still and the girlfriend of another gymnast is very coastal to the president

[Siberian]

Yes, Dima Medvedev didn’t blurt out anything. And nothing. Prime. He didn’t move anywhere. And Siluanov? What about Topilin? And Matvienko?

[Boris55]

Quote: Silvestr

and pension reform?

But doesn’t she guarantee social security by age?

In the same article: clause 2. State pensions and social benefits are established by "law".

The specific age of retirement is not indicated in the Constitution - it is at the mercy of the popularly elected deputies. Here they are on our behalf and determine to whom how much and when.

ps.
Only deputies of the Duma and no one else have the right to adopt laws and make changes to them.

[Boris55]

Quote: Beringovsky

And they also chose a president unfit for anything.

Are you now 76,69% of voters who voted for the fourth time for the same thing, are you trying to expose the mentally retarded?

[NordUral]

Boris! Do you yourself believe in these numbers?

[Vadim237]

You will find that one-year-old new president - I will give you a million euros.

[Voker74]

give two miles

[Vadim237]

I’ll give more than two - if you find one.

[kitt409]

How many months did it take for the media to "IMPACT" a certain Macron to the size of the support and hope of all of Europe?)

[NordUral]

You do not please, 237.

[mavrus]

"Let the party steer."
It was already, remember ... Still hiccups.

[Claymore]

Quote: Boris55

The specific age of retirement is not specified in the Constitution - it is at the mercy of the popularly elected deputies

These same deputies also established the retirement age - established in the first half of the 90s.

And now, according to part 2 of article 55 of the constitution, the retirement age can only decrease, but cannot increase, because such an increase is unconstitutional.

[Boris55]

Quote: Claymore

according to part 2 of article 55 of the constitution, the retirement age can only decrease, but cannot increase

Have you read the third paragraph of the same article?

n.3. Rights and freedoms of man and citizen may be limited federal law only to the extent necessary in order to protect the foundations of the constitutional order, morality, health, rights and legitimate interests of others, ensuring the country's defense and state security.

List other persons not attached. Guess for yourself.

[Claymore]

Quote: Boris55

And the third paragraph of the same article was read

I read not only the 3rd часть, but also comments on it.

Therefore:

1 I am not going to guess about the content of your unhealthy fantasies about "other persons";

2 I expect from you not a list of "other persons", but a list of them legitimate interests outweighing the rights and freedoms of the vast majority of citizens of the Russian Federation.

[Boris55]

Quote: Claymore

I'm not waiting for a list of "other persons" from you

What are these other people and their interests? Medvedev and deputies repeatedly announced them - all these transformations are carried out exclusively in the interests of current and future pensioners i.e. in the interest of us all.

What did you think about?

[Claymore]

Once again - we listed the interests of the persons mentioned in the 3 part of the 55 article that would lawfully restrict the right of citizens of the Russian Federation to receive a pension to achieve 60 years.

[Boris55]

Quote: Claymore

Once again - we listed the interests of the persons mentioned in the 3 part of the 55 article that would lawfully restrict the right of citizens of the Russian Federation to receive a pension to achieve 60 years.

The Constitution does not determine the age at which citizens retire - this is the prerogative of deputies.
Art. 39. n.2. State pensions and social benefits are established by law.
As we began to repeat myself, let me take my leave on the sim.

[Claymore]

Quote: Boris55

The Constitution does not determine the age at which citizens retire - this is the prerogative of deputies

Again.

1 Age was established back in the 90s.

2 The Constitution prohibits the issuance of laws that derogate from the rights of a citizen - including the right to receive a pension after reaching 60 years of age.

3 According to the constitution, the rights of a citizen (including the right to receive a pension after reaching 60 years of age) may be limited under certain conditions - one of such conditions is, highlighted by you, protection of the rights and legitimate interests of others.


In connection with the above, I do not allow to take a leave of the sim and wait for the list legitimate interests that outweigh the legitimate interests and the right of citizens to receive pensions upon reaching 60 years of age - list these << "legitimate" interests of others >>

[mkop]

According to the constitution, the rights of a citizen (constitutional) are described in chapter two. And there is no right to receive a pension at 60. There is only the following (Chapter 2, Art. 39): "Everyone is guaranteed social security by age, in case of illness, disability, loss of a breadwinner, for raising children and in other cases established by law." Nowhere is it written that you are obliged to give a pension at the age of 60. Further: "State pensions and social benefits are established by law." You come up with what you would like. Where does the constitution say about 60 years?
If you want it differently, you have to change the constitution.

[Claymore]

Quote: mkop

According to the constitution, citizen's rights (constitutional) are described in chapter two. And there is no right to receive a pension at 60

1.
55.1. The enumeration in the Constitution of the Russian Federation of fundamental rights and freedoms shall not be construed as a denial or derogation of other generally recognized human and civil rights and freedoms.

2.
Human rights are enshrined not only in the constitution, but also in its concretizing continuation - the laws.

3.
The law stipulated the age of 55 and 60 years.

4.
55.2. No laws shall be enacted in the Russian Federation abrogating or derogating the rights and freedoms of man and citizen.

5.
Raising the retirement age over 55 and 60 years old cancels the right of citizens to receive retirement benefits upon reaching 55 and 60 years, which, according to the constitution, should not be.

There is only the following (chap. 2, art. 39)

There is still article 2.

Man, his rights and freedoms are the highest value. Recognition, observance and protection of the rights and freedoms of man and citizen - state duty.

And article 18.

The rights and freedoms of man and citizen are directly applicable. They define meaning, content and application of laws, the activities of the legislative and executive authorities, local self-government and are provided with justice.

Nowhere is it written that you are obliged to give a pension at the age of 60

Once again.

This was spelled out in the law "On State Pension Provision in the Russian Federation", in the 7th article of which the Russians were written in white:

Law men over the age of 60 and women over the age of 55 have retirement pensions.

And according to the constitution, a law repealing this cannot be passed in the Russian Federation already installed right.

[mkop]

Go to court, what's the problem? There are international courts, not in the jurisdiction of Russia. Only now you lose, with a probability close to one. Moreover, in any court, even international.
You interpret it as convenient for you. The constitution gave you the right to receive a pension, and not the right to receive a pension of 60 years or 55 years for women. Age established the law, law established the constitution. Nobody has taken the right from you, but the law has been changed. Turn to the courts, why are you sitting then all? Here anyone can rant, and as much as you like, only no one does anything.

[Claymore]

Quote: mkop

Go to court

Point "e" of Article 83 of the Constitution.

What is the problem then?

In the existence of individuals trying to bleach black males.

international courts, not in the jurisdiction of Russia

And the questions concerning the constitution of the Russian Federation are not in the jurisdiction of international courts.

Age established the law, law established the constitution

The 39th article of the constitution established a guarantee for social security by age, the 55th article of the constitution established the impossibility of issuing laws abolishing or derogating the rights of a citizen, and the law on state pension provision established the right of citizens to receive an old-age labor pension at the age of 55 and 60 years old.

anyone can rant

And you are the best confirmation of this.

[mkop]

Who offers you to change the constitution? Contact us for a violation of your rights. You claim that under the constitution you violated your rights, here about the violation of rights and contact.

And of course I'm ranting here, I wrote 2 comments at the time of writing, this; with this - 3. You are significantly larger than mine, many times more. You are crying about a violation of your rights, not me, and at the same time you are not doing anything. Do you really think that someone else should solve your problems? Well, who is the best confirmation of idle talk? You obviously have trouble with logic. If I have problems, I’m going to solve them, one way or another, you - complain in the commentary to the article.

[Claymore]

Quote: mkop

Who offers you to change the constitution

Are you in yourself? )))

Contact about violation of your rights

83. President of the Russian Federation:
f) presents to the Federation Council candidates for appointment to the post of judges of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation, the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation; appoints judges of other federal courts;

And of course I'm ranting here

In vain.

You cry about violation of your rights

In what place of my comments are there crying? )))

You obviously have trouble with logic

With logic, you have trouble, and permanent attacks of dyslexia only aggravate this trouble.

1.
All that I have written here about raising the retirement age is not a cry with moans, but a statement of the fact of the unconstitutionality of this action, the reason for which was the ravings of the user under the nickname Boris55.

And 2nd - escho times.

39.1. Constitution.
To each [to the citizen] guaranteed social security by age ...

7.1. N 173-ФЗ dated 17.12.2001/04.06.2014/XNUMX (as amended on XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX).
Law [of a citizen] men who have reached the age of 60 years and women who have reached the age of 55 years have an old-age retirement pension.

55.2. Constitution.
In Russian federation should not be published the laws, abolishing or diminishing right and freedom of man and citizen [which already exist]

[NordUral]

Are you kidding me, 55?

[Claymore]

Quote: Boris55

Medvedev and deputies repeatedly announced them - all these transformations are carried out exclusively in the interests of present and future pensioners.

1 Putin announced this, but opinion polls showed that he lied.

2 Each pensioner who is forced to continue working after 60 years and is deprived of pension payments, thereby loses a part of his income, corresponding to, on average, 14 thousand rubles per month (at constant prices).
And this directly suggests that the "reform" is an ordinary robbery and runs counter to the constitution, since directly contrary to the interests of current and future pensioners.

[Boris55]

Quote: Claymore

This was announced by Putin,

You are mistaken. Medvedev 14 this May.

Again. No matter what Medvedev and Putin offer, they do not accept laws. They are accepted by the Duma.

[Claymore]

Quote: Boris55

You are mistaken. Medvedev 14 this May.

You're lying again.

It’s clear from the video that Medvedev made a proposal to raise the retirement age and told how this should happen - there’s not a word about anyone’s interests in the video.

But that "all these transformations are being carried out exclusively in the interests of current and future pensioners" was declared by Putin in his August 29 address.

[Claymore]

Quote: Boris55

Again. No matter what Medvedev and Putin offer, they do not accept laws. They are accepted by the Duma.

Once again - finish lying (at least do not do it so primitively).

Duma accepts bill

Federation Council ratifies bill.

And a bill becomes law only after it is signed by the president — it is the president’s signature that turns the bill into law and enters into force.

[Alf]

Quote: Boris55

No matter what Medvedev and Putin offer, they do not accept laws.

And what will happen if Putin does not sign the law that came to him from the Duma?

[NG inform]

Tell me, how much tax do you pay?

[Claymore]

And passport data, types and numbers of credit cards, as well as their codes can not tell?

[NG inform]

I still think that you are not paying anything, the maximum is some kind of formal payment with a gray salary.
Those who are honest are usually smarter and consider money more carefully.

[Claymore]

You don’t think - at least you do not distinguish between pension and accrued wages.

[alexmach]

And now, according to part 2 of article 55 of the constitution, the retirement age can only decrease, but cannot increase, because such an increase is unconstitutional.

This is not true

[Claymore]

Quote: alexmach

This is not true

So.

[New Year day]

Quote: Boris55

But doesn’t she guarantee social security by age?

the smallest thing left is to survive until retirement

[Boris55]

Quote: Silvestr

the smallest thing left is to survive until retirement

Or maybe it's easier before the next Duma elections? They are closer

[New Year day]

Quote: Boris55

Or maybe it's easier before the next Duma elections? They are closer

I hope that the fuse of the people will not go into the pipe

[Boris55]

Quote: Silvestr

I hope that the fuse of the people will not go into the pipe

I hope so too. As the recent elections showed, if we really want to, we can still drive the EP.

[New Year day]

Quote: Boris55

As the recent elections showed, if we really want to, we can still drive the EP.

we can, if not for the traitors in the Communist Party, etc.

[Vadim237]

The Communist Party was your friends, already traitors - quickly however you turned around, the compass probably went astray - an anomaly?

[New Year day]

Quote: Vadim237

Communist Party were your friends

never, but the chance to make the "Zu" work is to give him a rifle. I don't understand G.'s varieties, but someone is less smelly

[Gardamir]

and pension reform?

I suspect that there is no guarantor of the Constitution in the country.

[Svarog]

Quote: Gardamir

and pension reform?

I suspect that there is no guarantor of the Constitution in the country.

Do you still suspect? I’m sure of this for a long time .. I began to suspect when Dimon became president .. but the stage of suspicion has long passed into confidence ..

[New Year day]

Quote: Gardamir

I suspect that there is no guarantor of the Constitution in the country.

I’ll say a terrible thought, there’s no Constitution

[poquello]

Quote: Silvestr

I’ll say a terrible thought, there’s no Constitution

sad, but not terrible, there are no laws, by the way either, because the majority of social laws are screwed up by the lawyers who level these laws nafig

[NordUral]

Only oligarchs have a guarantee.

[Setrac]

Quote: Gardamir

You're right. Moreover, here is a quote from the constitution

I will give you another part of the constitution - where the duties of citizens:

The constitutional duties of a person and citizen include:
1. Compliance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and laws of the Russian Federation (Article 15, Part 2).
2. Respect for the rights and freedoms of others (article 17, part 3).
3. Caring for children and disabled parents (article 38, parts 2, 3).
4. Obtaining basic general education (article 43, part 4).
5. Caring for historical and cultural monuments (Article 44, Part 3).
6. Payment of taxes and fees (Article 57).
7. Protection of nature and the environment (Article 58).
8. Protection of the Fatherland (Article 59).

I will pay attention to points 3, 6 and 8 - these are points that are maliciously not executed by Russian citizens.

[zhekazs]

Quote: Setrac

3, 6 and 8 are points that are not maliciously executed by Russian citizens.

I would ask you ... You do not need all to fit in one comb.

[New Year day]

Quote: Setrac

I will pay attention to points 3, 6 and 8 - these are points that are maliciously not executed by Russian citizens.

and what to do?

[KOCMOC]

Quote: Silvestr

and what to do?

The state is not an individual, it does not need you and no one is needed! The state is a property, a function, that we, the people who inhabit it, at least the majority, by mutual agreement and by proxy, for a part of the money allocated by each, have been empowered to regulate internal relations between us, minimally so that they do not beat and rob each other friend, and external, that from outside no one beat us or robbed us. ALL! In all other respects, freedom, action, speech, religion, ideology.
Z.Y. Of course, we can give the state greater powers, free education, free medicine, social guarantees, but then we must rewrite the power of attorney and determine the tax for everyone whose fees will provide these functions. The sooner you understand this, the better it will be for you and for the state. All according to the law of conservation of energy, how much he gave, he took so much!

[New Year day]

Quote: KOCMOC

All according to the law of conservation of energy, how much he gave, he took so much!

Well then, according to your logic, Usmanov, Alekperov and Co. should be tearing our ass for the state more than us, and while they are holding money and spitting on the defense of the country

[RitaNik]

Quote: KOCMOC

Quote: Silvestr

and what to do?

The state is not an individual, it does not need you and no one is needed! The state is a property, a function, that we, the people who inhabit it, at least the majority, by mutual agreement and by proxy, for a part of the money allocated by each, have been empowered to regulate internal relations between us, minimally so that they do not beat and rob each other friend, and external, that from outside no one beat us or robbed us. ALL! In all other respects, freedom, action, speech, religion, ideology.
Z.Y. Of course, we can give the state greater powers, free education, free medicine, social guarantees, but then we must rewrite the power of attorney and determine the tax for everyone whose fees will provide these functions. The sooner you understand this, the better it will be for you and for the state. All according to the law of conservation of energy, how much he gave, he took so much!

And how much do you evaluate the lives of our grandfathers who died protecting the country and the future of their children, or do you think that you paid for the deed of the guys who died in Syria? Has everyone already counted and divided? The state of your type is bestial, and no one will defend it!

[KOCMOC]

Quote: RitaNik

And how much do you value the lives of our grandfathers who died defending the country and the future of their children, or do you think that you paid for the deed of the guys who died in Syria? Has everyone already counted and divided?

Notice, I didn’t talk about this. That you blasphemously suggest mercantile to consider and evaluate the exploits of heroes and defenders of the fatherland. In a big war and the army will be small, everyone will have to. They are free people, they live in their beautiful country, they themselves decided to defend their state, their homeland, their fatherland, their home, their friends and relatives, for themselves, this is their DUTY and their pay.

Quote: RitaNik

The state of your type is bestial, and no one will defend it!

Well, what a whimsical, touchy one, you have to see the beast of the state, well, no one will force you or the state, sit, watch the enemy trample on the land of your ancestors, ruin your house, and beat your near and dear ones.
ps From such people with your kind of thinking, the state, i.e. other people will not be of any use, which means that the grandfathers in vain have laid down their heads for this generation!

[RitaNik]

Quote: KOCMOC

Quote: RitaNik

And how much do you value the lives of our grandfathers who died defending the country and the future of their children, or do you think that you paid for the deed of the guys who died in Syria? Has everyone already counted and divided?

Notice, I didn’t talk about this. That you blasphemously suggest mercantile to consider and evaluate the exploits of heroes and defenders of the fatherland. In a big war and the army will be small, everyone will have to. They are free people, they live in their beautiful country, they themselves decided to defend their state, their homeland, their fatherland, their home, their friends and relatives, for themselves, this is their DUTY and their pay.

Quote: RitaNik

The state of your type is bestial, and no one will defend it!

Well, what a whimsical, touchy one, you have to see the beast of the state, well, no one will force you or the state, sit, watch the enemy trample on the land of your ancestors, ruin your house, and beat your near and dear ones.
ps From such people with your kind of thinking, the state, i.e. other people will not be of any use, which means that the grandfathers in vain have laid down their heads for this generation!

In the first part: it was sarcasm. And do not get out - it is you who cynically evaluated relations in the state from the point of view of the businessman. And in the second part: my husband has already defended the country in Chechnya, Yugoslavia, Angola, just like his father in Belarus in the Second World War. At the age of 44, my husband died, and it’s not for you to talk about the duty of my family to the state!

[KOCMOC]

Quote: RitaNik

In the first part: it was sarcasm.

No, it wasn’t sar3kazm, it was you who initially suggested evaluating our grandfathers who gave their lives for us, demanding payment for the guys’s deed. Re for you It was their DEBT and they honorably gave it to their homeland!

Quote: RitaNik

And in the second part: my husband has already defended the country in Chechnya, Yugoslavia, Angola, just like his father in Belarus in the Second World War. At the age of 44, my husband died, and it’s not for you to talk about the duty of my family to the state!

I don’t know your family and don’t want to know, and I didn’t say anything about your personal family debts either, so don’t have to stick it out, you’re not the only one. If you repaid debt to the state, then do you still need something in return? I talked about those who are too impudently demanding more from the state.

[RitaNik]

You seem to have a lack of not only conscience, but also logic. Missed an important part of my comment: And do not get out - it is you who cynically evaluated relations in the state from the point of view of the businessman.

[RitaNik]

"If you have given a debt to the state, then you are demanding something else in return? I spoke about those who are too impudent to demand more from the state." It's just a masterpiece! Bravo!

[Setrac]

Quote: RitaNik

The state of your type is bestial, and no one will defend it!

Under Stalin, there was no such freebie with social programs and pensions, and such a country was defended without sparing life. And who will protect the loafers and parasites? The question is not idle given the number of enemy bases at our borders!

[RitaNik]

Quote: Setrac

Quote: RitaNik

The state of your type is bestial, and no one will defend it!

Under Stalin, there was no such freebie with social programs and pensions, and such a country was defended without sparing life. And who will protect the loafers and parasites? The question is not idle given the number of enemy bases at our borders!

You remembered Stalin! So his finance minister did not go overseas with a report. And his officials with their wives and children did not have accounts and real estate abroad, not to mention the purchase of citizenship of other countries! When it got hot, Stalin remembered that the people are "brothers and sisters" And for your rotten "elite" and "effective managers" the entire population is "quitters and parasites"!

[Setrac]

So no one holds this Alferov in Russia.

[New Year day]

Quote: Setrac

So no one holds this Alferov in Russia.

so stay with the lady-symbol "EP"

she will solve all your problems on Leningradka

[Alf]

Quote: Setrac

6. Payment of taxes and fees (Article 57).
7. Protection of nature and the environment

Medvedev-Flat taxation scale does not need to be changed, because the rich will always find a way to evade their payment. Thus, a-priori the little bear said that the rich do not pay taxes very much.

[Setrac]

Quote: Alf

Medvedev-Flat taxation scale does not need to be changed, because the rich will always find a way to evade their payment.

I’ll pay attention to what taxes entrepreneurs are trying to evade - from social and pension taxes.

[Alf]

Quote: Setrac

8. Protection of the Fatherland (Article 59).

I will pay attention to points 3, 6 and 8 - these are points that are maliciously not executed by Russian citizens.

Yes, you’re right, you can’t see anything in the Russian Armed Forces, sons of sand and others like them.

[KOCMOC]

And that they have piled on an official, she is, by any law, raising and educating children is the prerogative of parents and only parents. Wow, what kind of indignation, when it comes to juvenile justice, everyone is indignant, everyone is against the role of the state, and how do you take care of the state yourself for the children.

Quote: Gardamir

Article 38
1. Motherhood and childhood, the family are protected by the state.
2. Care for children, their upbringing is the equal right and duty of parents.
3. Employable children who have reached the age of 18 must take care of disabled parents.
Article 39
1. Everyone shall be guaranteed social security by age, in case of illness, disability, loss of a bread-winner, for raising children and in other cases established by law.

Let's analyze:
Article 38 ...
1. By protection, but protection does not mean caring and nurturing.
2. The right point, care and education IT IS FROM AGE OF AGES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PARENTS!
3. This item calls us to the issue of pensions and the back care of children for their parents, as it has always been. The second and third point is our ancient heritage, it differs from animals, no one can provide children and senior citizens better than relatives! These are family bonds and succession, this is the basis of the family! The disclaimer of raising their children, as well as the maintenance of their yellow parents, is the most serious crime.
Article 39
1. rightly, the state should take care only of those who can’t take care of themselves and who don’t have relatives, who can’t keep them, of the destitute and disabled and incapable.

For all the positive aspects of communism, it gave rise to a generation of dependents, a passive, stupid, unpretentious, lazy, incapable, impotent people in life, used to the state treating them, teaching them, employing them, and they themselves were degraded, it came to the point that they were incapable of their children and parents take care. The officials said the right words, holy words, how they acted on dishonesty, how they became entrenched. Well, there’s nothing to change society. A traditional family takes its toll, a new generation will be spared from degeneration.
Z.Y. Do you want the state to take care of your children and parents, give them to orphanages and nursing homes or give half of your salary to the state.
And they pay meager taxes, someone does not pay at all, but require free medicine, free education for their children, and they need more pensions and a lower retirement age, and think about where the state has funds for your Wishlist? Sponging machine for you.

[Setrac]

Quote: KOCMOC

Sponging machine for you.

my plus will not save you, all these

Quote: KOCMOC

generation of dependents, passive, dumb, unpretentious, lazy, incapable, impotent life

you will be mussed

[kitt409]

Schazz we’ll drop everything, and we’ll start this ... put the cons and raise the rating for him, everything is easier - do not touch a certain substance and it will not emit a smell)))
Like our yylita here decided to be frank)))) continue, as in the classics - "quietly, with myself ..." (c))))))

[KOCMOC]

Quote: Setrac

you will be mussed

Well, that’s their right, of course they can minus the truth, thereby confirming and showing their stupidity. But against the truth, it’s not permissive .. How amicably they are indignant and the pluses are sculpting each other, as in Krylov’s fable. Their mind is seething, unlearned, but it must also be fair from the mind. In addition, human psychology is such that it can be confidently asserted that this truth in the remnants of their brain can be put aside for anyone, and gradually, when trying to double-check, when finding confirmation, it will begin to work as an antibiotic against their stupidity and against this mechanism they are absolutely powerless

[kitt409]

What is the "depth" of knowledge then))))
Nothing, "peshi ischo" (s), sometimes it's even curious, but here's what - I won't write, the modernists will erase it, and why should you know this, then reading your opuses you involuntarily wonder who would apply a translator to such a thing - to understand the meaning you can it was, otherwise the grammar is not just lame,))))

[210ox]

Yeah. It should. But it helps the bureaucrats .. In general, probably WADA is right .. All these athletes in politics got it. Do what you have to do with me.

[Alf]

Quote: 210ox

Do what you are doing.

And with the skill, too, not so hot.

[NordUral]

The state is obliged! But where do you see the state in the Russian Federation?

[Frieda]

Quote: Arh

I think the state should help children !!!

Children are the same citizens, and the state is obliged to take care of citizens in accordance with the Constitution. The bureaucrats are completely insolent, then they steal, as if not for themselves, then they make various kinds of statements, it feels like the last days before the end of the world live on the principle: "steal, kill, love geese. "And Yekaterinburg and the Sverdlovsk region, in general, are some kind of reserves of liberals, and it does not matter in which parties, all of them have the same" holy ninety "convictions. To chase such" rulers "who think they are boyars, a filthy broomstick and a" wolf ticket " ...

[Setrac]

Quote: Rededi

Children are the same citizens, and the state is obliged to take care of citizens in accordance with the Constitution.

According to the constitution, the state must take care of those who cannot take care of themselves and who there is nobody to take care of. That is, if your children are orphaned - the state will take care of them.

[zhekazs]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

Although in public it is necessary to flog such representatives of the authorities.

Fuck ... I, personally, do not mind. There was an article about corporal punishment not so long ago, and by the way, the situation is similar, only there were about football players. I think we need to get out of the moratorium on the death penalty. This beggar, of course, does not fall under the highest measure of social protection, but in addition to it there are also higher guardians for the national good whose billions stick to their hands. He stole officials, well, even if it’s more than 50 million, or damage to this amount - direct, indirect, it doesn’t matter — they proved that everything was on, forward to the wall, or at the Amerzi to spy out an electric chair circuit.
They will sense their skin as responsibility for their actions with their skin, then maybe the thieves and frank downs and idiots of power will become less ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

I think in this case they will not be dismissed ..

will send, one hundred poods. The dumbest competition continues

[Campanella]

Come on? Then everyone will have to be flogged more than once. Have Gref’s speech on the forum been forgotten?
I recall:
"... as soon as all people understand the basis of their" I ", they will self-identify, control, that is, it will be extremely difficult to manipulate them."

[poquello]

Quote: Bearded

We make bets: will this talented manager be dismissed or not?

will send

[alexmach]

I don’t know, I listened to the whole video. Says generally sensible things. Of course, the statement under discussion is strange.

[poquello]

Quote: alexmach

I don’t know, I listened to the whole video. Says generally sensible things. Of course, the statement under discussion is strange.

sensible things are stated in a slightly different way, for example: "We are doing everything possible, but you yourself have to strive to achieve goals", and the second part of the "sensible thing" generally suggests looking for help elsewhere, and where, for example? the possible options have already been written correctly here

[alexmach]

So she kind of talks about it. Something about clubs, about attracting young people to them ... and she said the phrase under discussion in response to a question ... which we don’t hear anywhere.

[poquello]

Quote: alexmach

So she kind of talks about it. Something about clubs, about attracting young people to them ... and she said the phrase under discussion in response to a question ... which we don’t hear anywhere.

oh well, she is a "state" and forgives everyone to whom she should, such things that are not due under the power of the government

[Claymore]

Quote: Bearded

Officials no longer hide their hatred of the people. It seems that only GDP does not want the Maidan.

It feels like you are inadequate.

1.
What does the area (Maidan) have to do with it?

2.
Can the appointee and the head of those who want the Maidan not want the Maidan, and the leader of the organized crime group not want to commit the crime that the organized crime group headed by him wants to commit?

[tomket]

Quote: Bearded

We make bets: will this talented manager be dismissed or not?

The gymnast, the champion (possibly Kabaeva's girlfriend), received the award from Putin's hands. Rather, they will find you and make you apologize, before this "respected and effective manager from United Russia"))))

[Lars971a]

no, they will not send ........................

[lis-ik]

Quote: Bearded

We make bets: will this talented manager be dismissed or not?

They won’t send, so Putin and the government will be left without personnel, there are such degenerates there.

[alexmach]

They won’t send, so Putin and the government will be left without personnel, there are such degenerates there.

But by the way, yes. A kind of marker of the quality of human material in power ... But is this news to someone?

[Campanella]

And what does the GDP want? I can’t understand. I understand only one thing: they put him on feeding, which is what he actually successfully and has been doing for almost 20 years with his comrades. Nobody knows who pulls the ropes.

[tech3030]

This is not hatred, but contempt as slaves, serfs. Although why, they want to make us like that!

[Shkiper]

I am begging you. We have the chairman of the public chamber of the Saratov region, Mr. Lando, said at the hearing on benefits for children who survived the Great Patriotic War: "And what is their merit? It's mom and dad who did their best." Everything, the officials not only got the bottom of the "moral", they are trying to break through with his forehead.

[poquello]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

similar statements in United Russia circles just became fashionable

Yes. not the only one to dominate functionaries for whom they are slaves

[alexmach]

The officials snickered so much ...

Here is a special case

Glatskikh - 2004 Olympic champion in rhythmic gymnastics

In principle, a person is quite young and has achieved something himself. These are popular Nietzschean worldview.

[Alf]

Quote: alexmach

In principle, a person is quite young and has achieved something himself.

Did you get it? Was she building a training room herself? Did she pay the salary trainers? Did you go to competitions at your own expense?
Although, if someone said that "our athletes owe nothing to anyone" and they performed under white rags, then why be surprised?

[New Year day]

Quote: Alf

Did you get it?

works for a penny, nothing for the soul. Poor thing!

[Alf]

The director of the youth policy department of the Sverdlovsk Region, Olga Glatskikh, who had bowed down and removed from office, immediately left Russia. She flew to Seychelles. According to the Ural news agency 66.Ru, along with her in the same direction went the deputy of the regional legislative assembly Alexander Serebrennikov.
Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2018/11/07/zolotaya-chempionka-chinovnica-sbezhala-ot-sledovateley-na-seyshely?utm_source=smi2&utm_term=422a2aa1-2f3f-4838-bf6b-bb2a2914609e&utm_content=84855

[Dart]

and what? how does this private worldview fit with the rights in the Constitution? How can you justify it?

[Alf]

Quote: Dart

and what? how does this private worldview fit with the rights in the Constitution? How can you justify it?

Are you talking to me ?

[alexmach]

and what? how does this private worldview fit with the rights in the Constitution? How can you justify it?

First, what does constitutional right have to do with it? Does she deny any constitutional rights?
Secondly, why did she seem to have justified nothing but just said stupidity. What she said is of course very ugly, I agree with that.
Well and the last - after listening to all the material, I got the impression that a person is somehow working with youth. A rare quality in our time. Is it possible to replace it because of one said stupidity, is there someone who will be better able to cope with her duties and whether this is a separate question, I unfortunately do not know the answer.

[poquello]

Quote: alexmach

having achieved something himself

so I would throw balls further, which into power I then trampled on with such a worldview

[Irokez]

Quote: Black

"no money, well, you keep there"

And here again, for the old words setting fire to the psyche and indignation.
The point is not exactly what you wrote here.
"No money + blah blah + you hold on"
"No money" - it says that pensions need to be indexed, but so far there is no money and we are doing this.
"you hold on" is like goodbye when it leaves and a parting word like not to lose heart, we will work.
and there is no “well, you hold on there” or simply “but you hold on”.
The guys sense is lost and distorted, do not get fooled by sharp journalistic and liberal gluing.

[Semurg]

Quote: Irokez

Quote: Black

"no money, well, you keep there"

And here again, for the old words setting fire to the psyche and indignation.
The point is not exactly what you wrote here.
"No money + blah blah + you hold on"
"No money" - it says that pensions need to be indexed, but so far there is no money and we are doing this.
"you hold on" is like goodbye when it leaves and a parting word like not to lose heart, we will work.
and there is no “well, you hold on there” or simply “but you hold on”.
The guys sense is lost and distorted, do not get fooled by sharp journalistic and liberal gluing.

The meaning is always the same. Not everyone will live up to happy days. My generation was once promised life under communism I can’t live.

[Irokez]

Quote: Semurg

At one time, my generation was promised life under communism I can’t live to see it.

Everyone believed, but it is impossible to build communism in one country, you were too naive because you blindly believed.
When they talked about Armata and the new fighter, what is being designed and will soon show that everyone believed? No, not all. What didn’t they scream, is it a fake and so on? They shouted, and then they did it to you. Do not believe and do not believe in what will happen because you will not live and feel it.
And I believe in really what it is quite possible to do and do not ask myself whether I will survive or not.

[pl675]

Quote: Irokez

Quote: Black

"no money, well, you keep there"

And here again, for the old words setting fire to the psyche and indignation.
The point is not exactly what you wrote here.
"No money + blah blah + you hold on"
"No money" - it says that pensions need to be indexed, but so far there is no money and we are doing this.
"you hold on" is like goodbye when it leaves and a parting word like not to lose heart, we will work.
and there is no “well, you hold on there” or simply “but you hold on”.
The guys sense is lost and distorted, do not get fooled by sharp journalistic and liberal gluing.

good.
and now, please, decode the words of the same gentleman about teachers who did not fit into the market.
and if not difficult, granite reflux technology.
Thank you.

[smershxnumx]

The officials snickered so much that they are not even able to hide their contempt for ordinary people under the guise of decency ....

This is another victim of the exam, who on occasion fell into power and in the media ... She showed her IQ in all its glory ... I’m sure the opening interview in the frames did an excellent job ....

[Sayan]

And today there is information about the misuse of this krail 130mln - translated into Russian - stole))))

[KAV]

Glatskikh complained that it is not easy for the state to organize events and projects, and officials are working "three-kopeck salaries." Therefore, she emphasized, children need to "combine the opportunities that the state provides with those of their parents, or seek them out on their own.

But how to understand this? Ie, "they pay us little, so we won't do anything at all!"? Well, then go to the factory, where they pay more! Don't wipe your skirts! This is generally already the edge!
PS It would be nice if they paid really little. And then in general already ofigel!

[Random]

Quote: Svarog

She speaks on behalf of the state ... well, wait

Oh..and have to wait a long time ..... yes, we have here half of the site of such , but what can I say when .. 77% and so for themselves .. "speak"
An example from yesterday - "Quote: Setrac
Exactly - our state is a "sucker", which has taken upon itself the responsibility of social and pension protection of the population. "

[Shelest2000]

Hello, country of heroes,
The country of dreamers, the country of scientists! (c) March of enthusiasts

Hmm .... This song is definitely not about the current Russia. Alas ... Although what else would you like to hear from the official representative of the current state.

[Random]

Quote: Shelest2000

This song is definitely not about today's Russia.

That's for sure... And also ...

[Ural-4320]

I agree. There was never yesterday's milk in the store, it was always brought to the store in the morning. And there was also a "sinking" not to warn that the bread was left from yesterday, and the fresh one had not yet been brought. And the schedule for the delivery of bread and bakeries hung in a prominent place.

[Semurg]

Quote: Ural-4320

I agree. There was never yesterday's milk in the store, it was always brought to the store in the morning. And there was also a "sinking" not to warn that the bread was left from yesterday, and the fresh one had not yet been brought. And the schedule for the delivery of bread and bakeries hung in a prominent place.

Happy. If the store didn’t ripen, he was left without milk. The evening delivery of bread at 4-30 in 30 minutes there is no bread, who did not have time in flight.

[Rakti-kali]

Quote: Semurg

If the store didn’t ripen, he was left without milk. The evening delivery of bread at 4-30 in 30 minutes there is no bread, who did not have time in flight.

Just like in Europe!

[Random]

Quote: Semurg

If the store didn’t ripen, he was left without milk. The evening delivery of bread at 4-30 in 30 minutes there is no bread, who did not have time in flight.

This is where it was in the USSR?
We in Sverdlovsk had everything as I wrote Ural-4320 (Constantine)
In Vladimirovka, there, yes ..... they stood for milk in the summer already at 04.00, otherwise it might not be enough .. one milk cart came and it's good if it was on time, and if suddenly "it was late, then together with milk, or yogurt or ... half butter (depending on how long the car was late), after all, this is the Astrakhan region and from Astrakhan to Vladimirovka to "cut" more than 300 miles, plus the road is not at all ... "ice"

[Semurg]

Kazakh Soviet Socialist Republic. SKO. Mr. Arys. And in the whole city and not in one store, and for decades.

[Ural-4320]

And this is familiar. Only I think this is the fault of the store director, who was fine even with such a clumsy delivery of products, and there was no time for "knocking out" and organizing supplies.
But I could be wrong. Even the "father" in Belarus had a precedent when people went to a neighboring region to buy bread, because in their region it is three times more expensive. During the debriefing, it turned out that the delivery of flour is "shafts", because the price is higher. They built a road "straight", and the price of bread became equal. But I can't say the district - I've heard it only once.

[New Year day]

Quote: Shelest2000

Hello, country of heroes,
The country of dreamers, the country of scientists! (C) March of enthusiasts

Somewhere like this:
Hello, country of "heroes"
The country of officials, the country of majors!

[Forestol]

minus the wise guys, you'd better ask the moderator to remove, they will put the guy on.

[Alf]

Quote: Seryozha Timofeev

Take a gun

Where to get a gun? The regime is like fire afraid of weapons in the hands of the population.

[Irokez]

Quote: Alf

The regime is like fire afraid of weapons in the hands of the population.

The regime saves you a foolishness from danger. God forbid it will shoot in the hands or fall into the wrong hands, but especially children’s or bad drunk.
And the word I wrote MODE, just like the regime of socialism (the dictatorship of the proletariat) in cold times, Westerners called the USSR.
If not this, but another regime will be similar to the Western one, then you will completely bend into the reservation of fragmented Russia.

[Alf]

Quote: Irokez

muddle

Well, do not be so self-critical.

Quote: Irokez

will fall into the wrong hands

Yes, yes, the weapon will fall into the hands of bandits ... And in whose hands is it now?

Quote: Irokez

And the word is what the MODE wrote,

And what is the name of the system under which the destruction of the country from within occurs?
And you do not know any other system besides the western one?

[Irokez]

Quote: Alf

And what is the name of the system under which the destruction of the country from within occurs?
And you do not know any other system besides the western one?

You just think about your pocket filling, but for some reason you don’t notice that bridges and roads and other facilities are being built to improve life and comfort, but it does require money that unfortunately is not in your pocket, but you are only talking about yourself and yours not gained.
Well, I agree, let's use some kind of Asian system if you still don’t like the Russian one under construction and there will be a caliphate or sultanate where everything will be tougher than ours.
Can't you forget the USSR? Well, live in the past and buy weapons; it warms the soul like a toy for big boys. Play the cowboys who will shoot first.

[kitt409]

I remember, I remember, they somehow built a road to the summit, it didn’t stand for long)) and the bridges are regularly lying around, no?

[Vadim237]

If our population is given weapons, they will be in free access, it will kill itself - it’s full of nervous and crazy people.

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

If our population is given weapons, they will be in free access, it will kill itself - it’s full of nervous and crazy people.

Vadim, why do you think that if the sale of weapons is allowed on October 1, then on October 2 the whole country will arm itself? But each one is inadequate in this case, before taking out the barrel, he will think, maybe the opponent also has one.

[Vadim237]

We and normal people with a thought are not particularly friendly, and you say inadequate and crazy people - they will think.

[Alf]

Quote: Vadim237

We and normal people with a thought are not particularly friendly, and you say inadequate and crazy people - they will think.

If you talk like that, then you must urgently select all the kitchen knives and axes, as well as remove all the sticks from the streets.

[Ural-4320]

That is how it is, but the times when children from 8 years old were not taken care of have already passed. And I would be glad to have someone "on the rack" from bureaucrats, but the responsibility for children stops. It would have been the norm in relations 100 years ago, and it would have blazed across Russia. During the years of Soviet power, we have become more "human", it is not accepted in our country to eat each other.

[ver_]

... there is no worse woman than a beast ..

[Irokez]

Quote: ver_

worse than no beast

That's what is most interesting, then yes "If women are fighting it is better not to stick in a fight."
They (women) are more zealous for themselves and more lopsided and squealing. Therefore, the screech and scream of a woman is always a guy laughing at one place and would rather want to calm her or pacify her (and by any means).
But if a woman came into power, then she will never miss her and she will not give indulgences to anyone especially (and it would seem a woman, mother, kindness and mercy herself). Dominated by feminine logic, tougher than men's remember Techer, Golda Meir (Israel), Angela Merkel (Angel the Fading), and so on, and not one is softer than men.
Men sometimes making a gesture of goodwill make some concessions to others, women almost never.

[ver_]

... one foreign noblewoman * muzzled * 660 women to death .., our compatriot * a thin machine gunner * (Antonina Makarova) shot 1500 of our prisoners of war from a machine gun and shot him with a pistol ... We found and shot her in 1978 by a court decision. .. (executioner) .., Elsa Koch, Boyar Morozova ... and so on ...

[l7yzo]

I read her biography. Yes, she is apparently a purposeful person and see her relatives in places. But she said from her experience as an athlete - apparently left her life. And how many with warped souls - yes, with money, with position - but with such sadness and pain in the hearts ... And even more without money and without position ...

[My doctor]

Glatskih, saying that officials, especially in the regions, have low salaries, added: young people with their parents, demanding something from the state, should remember this.

Quote: Svarog

She speaks on behalf of the state ... well, wait ... someone is clearly provoking an uprising ..

Exactly, she speaks on behalf of the state, but she is not the state. She is a civil servant - an employee performing the functions assigned to her position by regulatory legal acts.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Svarog

She speaks on behalf of the state ... well, wait ...

As these artists, athletes who got out of the mud to riches, were already sick of, these clowns of the Balagan genre, who in the Middle Ages entertained the audience at the bazaars, imagined themselves to be the honor and conscience of Russia. This was said by the one that rose at the expense of others, that is, the state. Now about the main thing, all these last statements from our servants and the media remind me of the Overton Window, such a suspicion that we are on the verge of tremendous changes in the Russian Federation. Just what will it be? One can only guess. (About 10 days ago, on an OTR channel, a lawyer from Moscow discussed the state program for housing young, and so he called on the media to tell the truth to the people that it was time to forget about what was in the USSR, they say we live in another capitalist state, and other leaders rule us, the meaning is as with this woman, and most importantly, Russia doesn’t need Industrialization and competent youth today) I think these statements are not random and look like the Overton Window, that is, they are trying to make the norm unacceptable to the population.

[Logall]

We look forward to another resignation and high-profile statements.
But she voices what is said on the sidelines of "edra" ...

[Machito]

Yeah, through the mouth of a baby .....

[New Year day]

Quote: Logall

because she voices what is said on the sidelines of "edra" ...

what to do, choose yourself

[Machito]

Who chose them then? They appointed themselves.

[Kokarev Mikhail]

This is not a core, but a louse!

[Alf]

Quote: Silvestr

then do it yourself - choose

"We believed him, and he deceived us, but we will continue to believe him."

[Vadim237]

Let them carry the truth to the masses.

[pillau]

Seasonal, not otherwise. You do not know whether to laugh nervously, or use foul language, but how many of you have with us ... Where did you come from in such quantity?

[Machito]

How many of them? All!!! Dumb even dumber dumb. The official cannot allow his subordinate to be smarter than him.

[alexmach]

Well listen to her 5 minute monoglog. Well, not stupid, moreover, something is really making an aunt, well, with the quoted phrase, of course, it turned out interestingly.

[The Siberian barber]

Do not worry! Further more!
"Flowers for the exam, on the way" (

[Random]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

"Flowers for the exam, on the way"

[Note 2]

Whose whose blot.

[Ross xnumx]

Here she is and let up to 60 works as an art gymnast. Why did they take her to the department as an official? Or let her seek a job herself ... Just because every power crook is being recruited into the power structures (executive power), each time we are faced with outright rudeness and neglect of them to ordinary people.

[Machito]

Obviously, she is a lover of some kind of daddy.

[Zefr]

Her dad is some kind of big road builder. Therefore, she achieved everything herself. And even at one time "she acted as assistant to the head of the Federal Service for Supervision in the Sphere of Transport (Rostransnadzor) of the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation"

[Olegater]

Typical representative of authority. Why are citizens indignant?

[Egorovich]

From such officials they get their new-Sumerian Farions, also of a short-term injury.

[SSR]

Quote: KAV

Moreover, she also said that the state did not ask parents to have children, and that’s why the state owes nothing to them.

This is really a masterpiece! At first I tried to think that the official expressed herself clumsily on a specific topic and the phrase was taken out of context ..... but now I really understand that this is another foster child from the "aviary" - live on 3500 thousand.

and officials work "three-kopeck salaries".

- Go to business! (c) The official.
Why are you sitting in office chairs for three pennies ?!
PS.
We know these pennies, they write the salary "11000" thousand rubles and on the exhaust with "allowances" they get "110000". They are really cut off from the life of ordinary citizens.

[Machito]

She is the head of the department, receives from 300 rubles and more per month. What does she care about rogue children? Take away the last penny in children. Do not get drunk in any way.
More and more United Russia scorched by such statements. And how then do they call the people among themselves? Slaves? Slaves? Cash Cows? ?

[Vadim237]

No, they’re just called scoops.

[mac789]

Well, it’s like ... On the one hand, the truth shouldn’t ... On the other hand, if the state doesn’t want to deal with young people, someone else will do it ... AUE for example ... Or Natsik under the screen of the British Council ... Or some white-tape mummies and other races ... Or ISIS (banned in the Russian Federation) ... And then a couple of three Kassam rockets will fly into the window of some boss ... Or do they think that they will send stoned martyrs to them? No ... From a distance of 2-3 km into the window of the office ... Or into the mansion ... So let them not be engaged ...

[Reptiloid]

The state didn’t ask, the state shouldn’t ....... It’s interesting, but before the Olympics, did parents pay for trainers and buy tickets for competitions at their own expense?
Counts ----- children, the general population, the state does not need, but only officials? .... Tin!

[zhekazs]

Quote: KAV

Do they have this seasonal or what?

This is not seasonal, but in my head it is spelled out like in ROM - I got up a bit, became a little boss, and believes that she’s pinching the Lord for the beard, and everyone else is in the third grade. Mom with a friend, an aunt on a red Bentley from Rostov or Krasnodar, an official from Samara about the cost of living ... Such Augean stables should be cleaned, but they forgot how. But you don’t have to go far — it’s worth remembering the father of all nations, he had ready-made solutions to such issues. And who will now call him a tyrant?

[Machito]

Here you need to change the whole system. Everything has rotted.

[Vadim237]

One rotten to a new rot - already from the masses.

[Kokarev Mikhail]

Democracy must be controlled. There is an urgent need for comets to identify such "talents" in power, and to locate them in places corresponding to their abilities.

[Ross_ulair]

Quote: KAV

Moreover, she also said that the state did not ask parents to have children, and that’s why the state owes nothing to them.

My question immediately arises - should we (me, him, a neighbor ...) in this situation have something for this state?
A rhetorical question ...

[Setrac]

Quote: ROSS_Ulair

My question immediately arises - should we (me, him, a neighbor ...) in this situation have something for this state?
A rhetorical question ...

The question is not a rhetorical one, the duties of citizens are also spelled out in the constitution, and our citizens fulfill their duties even worse than their state.

[tomket]

Quote: ROSS_Ulair

My question immediately arises - should we (me, him, a neighbor ...) in this situation have something for this state?
A rhetorical question ...

Probably it would be necessary for the state to return all taxes paid, pension contributions, since even Putin could not give the mind to the pension fund, it would not be bad to pay, for example, also military service, preferably in the amount of salary of this official. Since no one owes anyone.

[Ross_ulair]

She did not say anything new, she simply voiced the attitude of the overwhelming majority of Russian officials towards people. The state is not interested in a person other than a taxpayer

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: KAV

Well, here's another "talented" one? Is it seasonal or what?

it is simply not necessary to drag "names" into politics, maybe the athlete was not bad, but her brain is like a chicken

[milton]

Quote: KAV

Well, here's another "talented" one? Is it seasonal or what?
Moreover, she also said that the state did not ask parents to have children, and that’s why the state owes nothing to them. That is, it turns out that her statement is contrary to the state’s plans to improve demography!
This is masterpiece!

Go still a member of EDRA is!
Here's another question, why is she sitting there for 2 years already if the salary is small?

[Campanella]

Auntie graduated from the Moscow State University for a minute .. She’s not a fool. She simply expressed the position that the official holds, but does not openly voice.
Even under Elkin, they hammered into our heads that everyone is for himself. But then they realized that patriotism could not be cultivated in such broth, so they changed the rhetoric. They simply stopped talking about it, but in fact nothing changed. The people are needed only for draft work and to defend the "Motherland" privatized by oligarchs.

[avdkrd]

Well, here's another "talented" one? Is it seasonal or what?

The lady of course speaks faster than she thinks, but in principle she did not lie. Where is the state in, after 1991? has obligations to citizens? It is not a secret at all that capitalism in its modern form has an end in itself to receive rather than give something. In fact, only the inertia of the USSR does not allow the yoke to be thrown without any obligations, but the state, represented by lawmakers and the government, is doing everything to minimize costs while squeezing all the juices. In fact, the Sverdlovsk official only aloud expressed what is already in plain sight.

[NG inform]

No, this is an inadequate hysteria on a far-fetched occasion. Just like in a joke about the Pope and the brothel.

[dr.star75]

Do they have there? Open door day in the madhouse? Where did they pick it up?

[Kokarev Mikhail]

The woman was lucky, she went to serve the client, and she was accidentally shoved into the ministers.

[Mountain shooter]

Such officials are from the 90s ... I find out the result of the school reform of those years, and even the athlete is generally illiterate. As for the state, they "did not ask to give birth" - it was she who put the CROSS on herself ... I think, without five minutes, unemployed

[Terenin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Such officials - ay from the 90s ... I find out the result of the school reform of those years, and even the athlete is generally illiterate.

Hi Eugene . Well, at least some courses (such as take-off and landing) for officials should be
Obviously, she was appointed to this position on a call from a senior ex-gymnast from Moscow (I will not give her last name), so that there may not be a resignation.

[Mountain shooter]

I do not think that "Madame Irina", a patriot to the core, will defend THIS. Rather, it is a "defective" product, it was floated away from Moscow, but there, too, the crap got through ...

[Machito]

She herself is talented, beautiful, flexible, sexy, but dumb.

[albert]

Then she has a place in the brothel, and not in the government.

[Zefr]

Well, at least some courses (such as take-off and landing) for officials should be

Do not. She completed a practice at the Administrative Department of the President of the Russian Federation (under Medved). And MSU graduated.
This is how the state filter works. She is here in her place.

[Alf]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

I guess five minutes out of work

Maximum transplanted to another place.

[alexmach]

I learn the result of the school reform of those years, and even the athlete is generally illiterate.

After a sports career, she graduated from Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosova (2011) majoring in political science and the Financial Academy under the Government of the Russian Federation (2012) majoring in financial management.

Well, this is, after all, one of the best universities in Russia, albeit in a strange specialty.

[Alf]

Quote: alexmach

I learn the result of the school reform of those years, and even the athlete is generally illiterate.

After a sports career, she graduated from Moscow State University. M.V. Lomonosova (2011) majoring in political science and the Financial Academy under the Government of the Russian Federation (2012) majoring in financial management.

Well, this is, after all, one of the best universities in Russia, albeit in a strange specialty.

Well, you don’t have to go to the factory, there you’ll have to stain the pens on the elbow in oil.
You can’t feed on the old specialty, but here they’ll attach to the bread position. Yes, and joined the EP, so it will not be lost.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

I learn the result of school reform

what school reform - GREAT SPORT

[Vadim237]

But don’t worry about her - she’ll be fired, and she’ll only earn + 10 salaries on her leave.

[ltc35]

Yes, well so-and-so ?! For officials, the epidemic began directly to speak out against the country that raised them. Has their life been a success? So after all, this life will still show such cannibals, putting everything in its place.

[Machito]

This is not an epidemic. This attitude to the people of officials at all levels of government.

[stasimar]

what can I say ... everything has already been said before us: ... if a citizen is forced to pay for education and medical services, to accumulate a pension from his own funds, to pay housing and utilities in full at the market price, then why do I need such a state ?! Why should I still pay taxes and maintain a crazy army of officials? I have always said at all levels that healthcare, education and science should be provided from the budget. If the state puts this concern on us, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us.

Zh. I. Alferov, Russian scientist, Nobel laureate

[Same lech]

Totally agree with you .it is precisely such officials who do not discredit the power in our state from a good mind ... and they must be immediately freed by sending them to eat macaroni all year round somewhere in the Arctic Circle ... in a couple of years living on deserted islands they will understand what good nutrition and communication are with citizens of Russia and not polar bears.

[ltc35]

Or maybe this is a cunning plan like that? Then from all regions it will trample even more. What is not a statement of a deputy or official, then the game is complete!

[zhekazs]

Quote: ltc35

Or maybe this is a tricky plan? Then from all regions it will trample even more. What is not a statement of a deputy or official, then the game is full!

I would also say - the quintessence of Dmitry Medvedev.
Which boss - such are his subordinates, only he is a little more restrained by virtue of a little more education or proximity to the fist of an older comrade.

[Observer2014]

Another "star" was drawn on the horizon of national glory The former athlete. Has government awards. Young man. She clearly and lucidly explained the state policy to everyone.

[DEDPIHTO]

Reception, sports, preparations obviously negatively influences a head of athletes and the process of dulling a campaign is irreversible. You can not take them to the state. service and deputies is also not recommended.

But no, the state should not owe anything to you (youth - approx.), But your parents should, since it was they who gave birth to you, and the state did not ask for their birth, she added.
]

[A good one]

And we are the Yeltsin Center, the Yeltsin Center, and the officials do not have a head on their shoulders, but a house of councils.

[mac789]

She's just a victim ... Abuses of Eleutherococcus preparations ... (It affects the brain extremely sedative. After a single dose, a healthy person walks like a brake for three days ...)

[Sergei71]

And who to take? There are no manufacturers because of the lack of production. (This is by the way about 2,5 million jobs). And the rest is actors, athletes, business. Although, here was Reagan like that.

[Vadim237]

The production workers are busy with everything - they work.

[Olegater]

How? Normal regional directors and ministers?

[The Siberian barber]

Please note that this is only what "pops up", outside the scope of areas! If you plunge into the everyday life of the regions, the picture will be more depressing

[Olegater]

Depressing is soft, too softly said !!!!! Gloom and hopelessness !!!!!!

[svp67]

But no, the state should not owe anything to you (youth - approx.), But your parents should, since it was they who gave birth to you, and the state did not ask for their birth, she added.

And why are you getting dear money for that position? Is it any wonder, after that, the appearance of young terrorists, Navalny's fans, revolutionaries, "blue whales" ...
I would not be surprised if now, after this scandal. this "sportswoman" will be moved to the Duma to remove it from Burg.

[vadson]

yeah here it seems like we have a normal region. working. and sometimes you look at what kind of trash in the burg there isn’t. but at the expense of this dupe - it’s not her - this system is dead and stinks in full. officials snickered and grew bored with impunity. it’s time to introduce the Iron Curtain, restrictions on the withdrawal of capital, the death penalty and confiscation. they are not afraid of anything. at 37, for discrediting the power of the whole family, they would have packed their bags and rightly - because the family brought up that. and now she didn’t break the law. Well, reprimand, well, some kind of ethics commission. maximum fired. but you need to understand thoroughly how she works with youth with such a position. This shaped pest is a cursed soul.

[helmi8]

But to ask this Olympic champion at whose expense she was trained, paid for travel to competitions ... Parents? Well, I doubt very much! And in general, there is nothing for athletes to do in politics, let them work as a coach, it will be more useful. And then in the Duma now, as in a song: "We are singers and musicians, acrobats and jesters ..." They are taken as deputies on party lists just to have their own majority of votes.

[PSih2097]

Quote: helmi8

let them work as a trainer, there will be more benefits.

I don’t think a good athlete doesn’t mean a good coach ... maximum is an assistant to a good coach, and Winner has good helpers, so let him write his memoirs and go to work as a physical instructor at school.

[helmi8]

Quote: PSih2097

I don’t think a good athlete does not mean a good coach

It's not about what coach she will be, even if she works as a cleaner in the gym. I meant that there would be more benefit from it than in the authorities.

[ltc35]

Her physical teacher in school can not be taken unequivocally. She doesn’t love children!

[Graz]

Quote: ltc35

Her physical teacher in school can not be taken unequivocally. She doesn’t love children!

juvenile warden

[svp67]

Quote: helmi8

+16
But to ask this Olympic champion at whose expense she was trained, paid for trips to competitions ...

Yes, it is enough to ask, at whose expense she receives the pension supplement? And just to offer to refuse it ... I think that we will learn a lot about the "State's debt" to her personally.
In general, the ancient Greek proverb: "In a healthy body, a healthy mind is a rare exception", received another confirmation

[silverwolf88]

Nothing surprising in principle ...
Another thing is scary ... on the stage ... to replace the former party members and Komsomol members (yes, they still have vestigial vestiges of their attitude to the Soviet people of a united community) ... a generation is growing up in an ideological vacuum ... while on the periphery ... and now IT is now in Power ... it’s possible to correct the speech ... BUT the brain and the lack of ideology cannot be corrected ... and now we live in this ...

[Stirbjorn]

But no, the state should not owe anything to you (youth - approx.), But your parents should, since it was they who gave birth to you, and the state did not ask for their birth, she added.

I always thought that it was children who always owed it to their parents, for giving them life, but as it turns out. On the other hand, this young lady is a former gymnast, an Olympic champion, and professional athletes have never shone their intellect as a rule. It’s just a trend under the current government to push athletes and artists everywhere

[Sands Careers General]

For such "statements" publicly in the square should be flogged. We were completely fed up.

Drive out with a wolf ticket.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Sands Career General

For such "statements" you need to flog publicly on the square. Absolutely snickering. Drive out with a wolf ticket.

Let her bear from the emblem of "EP" ... It is enough just to whip with rods and prohibit work in government positions. Let him earn with his filthy tongue ...

[Sands Careers General]

It’s enough just to whip with rods

I basically proposed this))

[Note 2]

Judging by her stupid language, she’s unlikely to earn anything. Most likely someone’s daughter or protege.

[naidas]

Vova I swear she is right.

[Frederick]

What a disgusting erysipelas ... ©

[Machete]

Has she already been fired?

[GibSoN]

Has she already been fired?

And what will change if she gets fired? Official = responsibility and all kinds of privileges. While officials will simply be fired, nothing will change.

PS Can I be an official? Well, literally for a year or two ?! I’m honestly, then I’ll leave myself. Even honestly, I will be silent and agree with everything! I just need to accumulate the initial capital .. well, there to make connections .. Well, and then, as the professionals said, I’ll go to business!

[The Siberian barber]

!!!! ...
"What was required to prove" (c)
Zealous defenders of the existing situation in the studio! (very interesting to read))
Wangyu: the girl will whine that "she was misunderstood"
A moron, and he understands (probably) that the future is children !!
Straight, hopelessness, some ..., with regards to children and the elderly
Then, we are surprised: why do children explode grenades and commit suicide?
And yet ... "Medal plan", in sports, maybe it's good (I'm not sure, because this is for bureaucrats), but for these merits, you cannot promote people to power !!
As in the joke: "My father had three sons: the eldest, the middle one, and ... a football player .."

[Frederick]

Already I began to change shoes that the phrase was taken out of context. That they say she said an extremely patriotic speech about the institution of the family, which carried the deepest sacred meaning, and some bastards misinterpreted everything ... Somehow. I won’t insert the link, and then again the moderators will slap it in front of me.

[alexmach]

Already I began to change shoes that the phrase was taken out of context.

But this is indeed so, the phrase is certainly idiotic, but we did not hear the question to which she answers.

[Setrac]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

A moron, and he understands (probably) that the future is children !!

How tough you are about our people. A moron can and understands, but the Russian people do not, the dynamics of population growth is negative.

[faiver]

here's a beauty, an athlete, but obviously not a Komsomol member ...
as I understand it, if it weren’t age, it would continue to bend and bend with a ribbon, but you don’t need a lot of intelligence ...

[Machete]

Interesting: at whose expense did this fool perform at the World Cup in gymnastics? Really parents sponsor a national team?

[New Year day]

somehow their nonsense is systemic. and maybe not nonsense, but the position of those in power. After that, we are surprised at the young demolitionists. Nature does not tolerate emptiness.

[The Siberian barber]

Exactly!! Alas: the system "gives birth" to such increasing ((
The scary thing is that over time, we will cease to be surprised at such
Well, or die out like mammoths ..
No one canceled the habit

[New Year day]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Exactly!! Alas: the system "gives birth" to such growing

but I thought for a moment: maybe all these opuses are not accidental, just the party policy breaks out at the farthest? The most cunning avoid such public statements, but their leader once also said:

If we trace the logical chain - the "growth" of the standard of living, the pension reform, the statements of officials, then a pattern is already emerging.
And this is nonsense, this is "what's on the mind of a sober, then a drunk on the tongue"

[The Siberian barber]

Well, as History shows: all (practically) leaders are leaders for the plebs.
Really, "silent genocide" in action. And how and who pulls the strings THERE, we are not given to know. Our business is to pay taxes and vote. Alas, the balance has been broken, the Union, with its ideas, has been broken.

[Olegater]

Since the state, in the form of this brainless representative, owes nothing to me and my children, so I do not owe this state. So it turns out? So the government should not fulfill its functions and I, as a representative of society, cease to fulfill my duties? To pay for housing and communal services, to take and not to pay for products and to use everything I want for free? I do not owe anyone?
Probably sitting on the twine constantly with the landlord.
Nothing of this .... will not happen, gossip and forget. And she will continue to "work"

[The Siberian barber]

You probably didn’t notice how the state machine transferred its duties to SERVICES ..

[Setrac]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

gos.mashina transferred its duties to SERVICES ..

Oil is oil.

[The Siberian barber]

Explain?)
In my understanding, in relations between a state and a citizen, there are rights and obligations within the framework of the Constitution, but not as a business relationship. It can be add. functions in the implementation of commercial projects.
For example, when taking children to school, they slip us an agreement on the provision of services .. We look at the Constitution ... And?)

[Setrac]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

In my understanding, in relations between a state and a citizen, there are rights and obligations, but not as a business relationship.

Duties cannot be transferred to services. There may be an obligation to provide services (medical, educational)

[The Siberian barber]

Article 43 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation 1. Everyone has the right to education. 2. The accessibility and free availability of pre-school, basic general and secondary vocational education at state or municipal educational institutions and enterprises are guaranteed. 3. Everyone has the right on a competitive basis to get free higher education at a state or municipal educational institution and at an enterprise. 4. Basic general education is compulsory. Parents or persons replacing them ensure that their children receive basic general education. 5. The Russian Federation establishes federal state educational standards, supports various forms of education and self-education.

And we shove the contract ...
In medicine, it’s even worse: age-related sigra
But I probably understood your thesis))
This is the whole trick: stupidly, they are trying to force the clinic to provide us with "services", but in principle, these are its DUTIES, and not the desire / ability to provide services

[The Siberian barber]

It follows: that feeding the child’s parents is mandatory to provide services to the child)))

[kitt409]

Strange, in the next topic, about the presidency, your opponent is much longer trying to prove that the government provides us with services, but the fact that it WANTS to call everything that does not mean that it really is))

[The Siberian barber]

I think that this substitution of concepts has not yet been realized by many people, to the end (Sleight of hand, and ...
We were "thrown" like in thimbles

[Setrac]

Quote: kitt409

but just because it WANTS to call it that doesn't mean it

Apparently Russian is not your native language - since you do not understand it. Note that I argued my position that services are services, you deny without any arguments like "baba yaga against".
Give the standards by which medical services are not services, give an example of why government employees are not employees, explain why services are not services and employees are not employees. In your alternative Russian language, are the military personnel probably not employees?

[kitt409]

They asked for norms, but not the question, that is, what should I provide, that’s what you will provide, how to substantiate your ideas?
Let's get back to the beginning- “... Setrac (Sergey) November 4, 2018 11:14 The state provides citizens Services: medicine, education, police, army. ... "(c), it was on this post that I objected for the first time that" ... what you call the provision of services DOES NOT REALLY BE THAT, it’s completely different) "(c).
What it is? - well, we will not touch the Constitution for now, there is practically nothing about services, but they clarify and decipher the general provisions that are specified in the Constitution, Federal laws, and what we see there is Federal Law N 323-FZ "On the Basics of Health Protection in the Russian Federation ", about services there only in definitions and concepts, at the beginning, BUT the main concept that is present there is HEALTH CARE,[/ b] it is necessary to explain how these definitions differ?)
and almost at the end, or rather Article 84 of this Federal Law - “... Payment for medical services
1. Citizens have the right to receive paid medical services [b] provided at their request in the provision of medical care, and paid non-medical services (household, service, transportation and other services) provided additionally when providing medical care.
2. Paid medical services are provided to patients at the expense of personal funds of citizens, funds of employers and other funds on the basis of contracts, including voluntary medical insurance contracts.
3. When providing paid medical services, the procedures for providing medical care must be observed.
...
6. The patient’s refusal to offer paid medical services cannot be the reason for the decrease in the types and volume of medical care providedprovided to such a patient free of charge under the program of state guarantees of free medical care for citizens and the territorial program of state guarantees of free medical care for citizens.
7. The procedure and conditions for the provision of paid medical services to patients by medical organizations are established by the Government of the Russian Federation.
8. The provisions of the Law of the Russian Federation ... "On Protection of Consumer Rights" ... are applied to relations related to the provision of paid medical services. "(C)
Next, let's move on to education) - Federal Law N 273-FZ "On Education in the Russian Federation" - "... For the purposes of this Federal Law, the following basic concepts are applied:
1) education - a single focused process of education and training, which is a socially significant good and carried out in the interests of a person, family, society and the state, as well as the totality of acquired knowledge, skills, values, experience, competencies of a certain volume and complexity for the purposes of intellectual, spiritual, moral, creative, physical and (or) professional development of a person, satisfaction of his educational needs and interests;
2) education - activities aimed at developing a personality, creating conditions for self-determination and socialization of a student on the basis of sociocultural, spiritual and moral values ​​and socially accepted rules and norms of behavior in the interests of a person, family, society and the state;
3) training - a focused process of organizing the activities of students in mastering knowledge, skills, competencies, gaining experience, developing abilities, gaining experience in applying knowledge in everyday life and forming students' motivation to get an education throughout life; ... ”(c) - Article 2 of the aforementioned Federal Law, where is it written about SERVICES WRITTEN ???
And finally, we have, according to the legislation of the Russian Federation, the imposition and coercion of services is prohibited, therefore, service is voluntary and can be abandoned, but how can a citizen refuse defense or the police ???))) No, therefore it’s NOT service, h.t.d.
This is called proof "from the contrary" ...

[Setrac]

It is not treated.

[kitt409]

If you are self-critical today, why would it be?)
EXISTINGLY has something to argue with service lovers?))))))

[Setrac]

Quote: kitt409

If you are self-critical today, why would it be?)

Conscience tortured?

Quote: kitt409

service lovers?))))))

sexual

[kitt409]

Well, you know better what services you have there - they wrote something about you)))
And as for conscience - you have a banner "information has not passed" is on, read that post again - and so on until you understand the meaning of what you have written)

[Setrac]

Quote: kitt409

And about your conscience - you have a banner "information has not passed" is on,

I don’t know what is burning there.

Quote: kitt409

re-read that post again - and so on until you understand the meaning of the written)

I will not stoop to your level.

[kitt409]

He wrote about you, so that it’s burning for you, and that you yourself will figure it out)

[kitt409]

"... I note that I argued my position that services are services ..." (c) - you have a powerful "argumentation"))))
And what about the employees? Who and where wrote that they are NOT employees, a quote to the studio)

[New Year day]

Quote: Setrac

Duties cannot be transferred to services. There may be an obligation to provide services (medical, educational)

[ochakow703]

Crumbs zazhramshis, that rotten insides climbs out. Judging by her physiognomy, she spoke "from a pure heart."

[loki565]

They hike there are casting)))

[Astronaut]

Haven't got her fired yet?

[K-50]

Fool! Stupid!
If the state does not take care of children, where is the likelihood that then the children will think and take care of the state?
With proper upbringing, it’s hard to achieve this, and if you forget about upbringing, you will get such a result.
I deserve to dismiss the official, sir.

[Ronald Reagan]

She just dumped the bitter truth. A person is responsible for his future and the future of his children (upbringing, education, finances). Nobody owes him anything, including the state.

[Forestol]

I agree, if children are not taken into the army, do not take away taxes .. and so, MANDATORY.

[Krasnodar]

I agree. But officials exist from our taxes, because we delegated to them our authority to:
Security (Army, Police, Emergencies Ministry)
Education (state schools, universities, sections, circles)
Medicine
If this is not provided, then they do not fulfill their functions for our money. Therefore, she can push this speech in front of her children / children of friends / acquaintances, as a private person. And in this case, I agree with her.

[Ronald Reagan]

You're right. But the people are also responsible for their managers - they did not fall from the sky, but were chosen. So, these are links of one chain.

[The Siberian barber]

[Quote]
If you pay taxes, for what ??))

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Forestol

[ROBIN-SON]

A long time ago, in my LADY, in his presidency said the following thing: "The government should collect money and share it" The meaning was this.
As for officials, they did not multiply measured. I will not say that all are bad, but some of them leave much to be desired. Example. County town. Land Committee. Highlighted 2nd floor. Offices pieces 10. Came at the appointed time. No lunch. No one visitors. I am knocking. The door is constipated. An aunt comes out of one of the rooms. Ya. They say excuse me, but where are the people? The answer is no and never will be. I say, but do not tell? In response - you violated everything and that’s it. I prepared for the conversation, read the provisions and there is a solution to my question. But my aunt was not up to me, she flew into the office, where they rang vigorously with teaspoons and savored the cake. And that is power.
As for the Khorkins and this gymnast official. They must not be allowed to power. They have been spinning since 5 years in sports and let them. They would have put them decent pensions for their merits and everything would have been normal. There are normal people among them. Svetlana Zhurova - deputy of the Duma. It seems to be in its place.
In Soviet times, I studied with athletes. Not until their studies, the loads were big. But HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS held them. And this is in Soviet times. I was interested in their fate. Many drank too much. They turned out to be unnecessary for the state with age. There was a diploma, but they did not take a job.
And this Galician snowstorm suffered, it froze.

[kitt409]

can I have some advice for the future? When repeating the situation with the cake and non-working hours), go into the office and take off - and the tea party, and the routine too, is checked - with adequate authorities they can even apologize) and police calls are nonsense, they’re mostly scary ...

[taiga2018]

not surprising, a typical liberal position ...

[Krasnodar]

This is not a liberal position. On the contrary. Classical liberals have no official as an official - a clerk stuffed with some powers to carry out any public functions.

[lot]

in memory of F. Ranevskaya.
If they hadn’t said that she was an Olympic champion, then it would have been sad. And just an idiotic message. Klitschko fit.

[HAM]

Klitschko was even beaten on the head, you can understand ....

[lot]

[Wolverine]

[quote] [/ quote]. "But no, the state shouldn't do anything to you (young people - approx.), In principle, but your parents should, since they gave birth to you, and the state did not ask them to give birth," she added.

I believe there should be an asymmetric response from the parents to the state - we do not pay taxes, gentlemen, deputies themselves.

[Bull Terrier]

Do you have to write this? All the same, a woman. Which by its own labor has achieved a lot. Even if her position does not suit you, this is not a reason to say nasty things.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Do you have to write this? All the same, a woman. Which by its own labor has achieved a lot. Even if her position does not suit you, this is not a reason to say nasty things.

I agree with you one hundred percent.

[Setrac]

Quote: Krasnodar

I agree with you one hundred percent.

It is a sin to laugh at the wretched.

[Zefr]

Even if her position doesn’t suit you, this is not a reason to say nasty things

Anyone can say that the state does not owe anything to children, and that it did not ask for childbirth. This is his position.
But in this case, the official responsible for working with youth said this.
Feel the difference?

[Bull Terrier]

Quite. Only a man should always remain a man. I do not turn into a bazaar woman who discusses who is sleeping with whom and how he got his position. Feel the difference?

[Zefr]

This is generally what? Firstly, out of place and not to me, and secondly, offtopic.
You protect her as a man, chtoli? Do you have any interest in her? Leave it with you.
Discussed official. And who, by gender, does not matter.

[Bull Terrier]

I don’t protect her at all. And I do not agree with her chatter. And my reaction to the comments of many here who began to discuss here how and how she achieved her position. Reading was disgusting.

[yehat]

Glatskaya grew up and now she does not care about the debts of the state to children.
it’s very good that they hire non-professional officials
at least they say what they think. And in Germany you will not understand what is happening

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: yehat

it’s very good that they hire non-professional officials

She is a professional. At the political scientist weaned.

[yehat]

Do you believe that she is a professional? I have no illusions about the education of a girl who was in big sport. It is simply none, because it takes the normal thing all the time.
and this "miracle", without a sane primary education can learn to be a political scientist ???

A political scientist is a person who is very erudite to understand the audience and this is not an official. I refuse to believe that this lady is a professional.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: yehat

I refuse to believe that this lady is a professional.

However:
"After her sports career, she graduated from Lomonosov Moscow State University (2011) with a degree in political science and the Finance Academy under the Government of the Russian Federation (2012) with a degree in financial management.

In 2009 and 2010, she passed practice in the Administrative Department of the President of the Russian Federation and the Ministry of Sports of the Russian Federation.

From 2011 to 2013, she served as an assistant to the head of the Federal Transport Supervision Service (Rostransnadzor) of the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation.

In the period from 2015 to 2016, she worked in the Polylog Consulting Group.

In 2016 she was the president of the all-Russian physical culture and sports public organization for promoting the development of rhythmic gymnastics and karate "Rus". "

[yehat]

professional in leadership positions. the skills end there

[yay]

Well! Another kulema to dismiss said.

[please]

And do not dream. It will cost a conversation with the governor. It will make you memorize a few stereotyped phrases for all sorts of cases, so that it would not burn.
This beauty has already fired on the central channels with her "eloquence" about three years ago. Speaking at the Edrosov forum in Yekaterinburg. Well, like Klitschko, only in a skirt.

[rocket757]

How do gymnasts go to their Olympic and other heights ??? I will not wish such an enemy! There is only great work and pain! After all, neither Papiks, nor Mamiks WERE nearby! This of course is not a wave of Kyle, but I RESPECT our athletes from and to!
Their psyche is so tuned, only by their own labor .... it is clear that sports schools, bases and coaches are needed, these are mostly sovereign people, but .... I already wrote about great personal work!
She said the way she understands life, how she was raised .... i.e. about demographics in the country and the attitude of the upper authorities towards this, she simply does not understand!
A physical education methodologist may turn out to be a good one, but the talking head, the responsible official, doesn’t seem like her! I didn’t orient in time, she said that she herself thinks, etc. .... well, I couldn’t!

[The Siberian barber]

That's the point: "what's in the head"

[rocket757]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

That's the point: "what's in the head"

In the minds of all the mess!
As long as there is no order there, it will be bad for all of us, and those who contributed to it will remove all the cimus ....

[The Siberian barber]

Then, a rhetorical question (sorry): Who and how will treat this mess ???

[rocket757]

But by yourself already? Move your brains, go to the library? There are methods, IT IS NECESSARY TO WORK! Be sure to look for some kind of guru and get lost in the herd?
In a healthy person, order in the head is a natural state, a mess is not a natural, forced state! It’s necessary to fight this, to confront how to bask,

[The Siberian barber]

Tell me: how are we going to "treat" the bad head of Uncle Vasya ??) or what minister ..)))
As for the library, I can invite you to visit))) there are entertaining things, believe me))), like many, here, those present

[rocket757]

To have a library in a sideboard / bookcase, to have a library in your head, as a matter of fact is different.
I have always been called a walking guide and with crosswords I have all the type of top that was.
He can treat Uncle Vasya, it’s a bad business, I suggest that everyone in his head should be put in order .... someone will then have to be led simply by the hand! It has always been, is and will be.

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

In a healthy person, order in the head is a natural state, a mess is not a natural, forced state! It’s necessary to fight this, to confront how to bask,

That's just such girls do not know this.

[rocket757]

What is wrong with her? She said how she understood .... Sweet noodles on the ears will be nicer?
For this purpose, leading and other documents produce in official circles! Will not work on them, fly from there with a whistle.
Let there be those who are talkative in their own way, but we will know for sure what to expect from them.
Is it better to get a toad from a sweet goat?
No, yourself, try it yourself.

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

How do gymnasts go to their Olympic and other heights ???

so maybe let them do this and not climb into public life? The time spent on shells did not benefit the mind, tact, behavior in society, place in it.
And then, after all, some athletes are fighting in restaurants, other youth are sent to their own devices.
Vicious Practice: Athlete Politics

[Svarog]

Quote: Silvestr

How do gymnasts go to their Olympic and other heights ???

so maybe let them do this and not climb into public life? The time spent on shells did not benefit the mind, tact, behavior in society, place in it.

Athletes, they didn’t do very well with their education ... they didn’t study at school, because they devoted all their time to sports and didn’t read books either ... this is not a condemnation, I mean, still, if you manage something with someone , then you need to be smarter than that ..

[rocket757]

Quote: Silvestr

do not meddle in public life

Athletes have a short athletic age! So it is!
What, cross them out of public life and all business?
I do not agree, everyone should have a choice! And then it just depends on the person, where he will find his calling! Life, after a big sport should not end and finally, have respect for people who know how and were able to achieve everything with their labor!

[New Year day]

Quote: rocket757

What, cross them out of public life and all business?

tell me how it differs from Klitschko?

[rocket757]

How to compare, if you do not know the person .... I’m not interested in Klitschko at all, so I pass.

[Claymore]

Quote: rocket757

Life, after a big sport should not end and finally, have respect for people who know how and were able to achieve everything with their labor!

Labor is a purposeful activity of man, in the process of which he, with the help of tools of labor, influences nature and uses it in order to create the use values ​​necessary to satisfy needs.

What value did this former gymnast create?
With what joy should someone respect an individual who has spent years of his life mastering skills that are useless for society - run faster than anyone, jump higher than anyone, etc.?

[rocket757]

Quote: Claymore

mastering skills that are useless for society

I do not discuss, there will be a rzhaka.
Man does not live by bread alone!

[Claymore]

Yeah - still clothes and a place to live.

[rocket757]

From what you and congratulations.

[Alf]

Quote: Claymore

With what joy should someone respect an individual who has spent years of his life mastering skills that are useless for society - run faster than anyone, jump higher than anyone, etc.?

If you have a talent for sports, go in for sports, teach the next generation of athletes, and even from the high stands they shout - There is no growing shift. Where did she come from if former athletes as deputies and officials climb?

[Claymore]

Quote: Alf

If you have a talent for sports, go in for sports, teach the next generation of athletes, and even from the high stands they shout - There is no growing shift. Where did she come from if former athletes as deputies and officials climb?

This is not even about that - everyone is free to do what he likes and what he has abilities for.

But the ridiculous demand for respect for those who have not done anything useful for a significant period of their lives, but only ran, jumped and somersaulted for their beloved - this is complete illogicality ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Claymore

everyone is free to do what he likes and what are his abilities.

Another gymnastics star in the State Duma. She accepts the laws by which we live!

[Claymore]

We will respect her not for the laws adopted by her, but for the fact that she spun on the bars and rode on a log

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

Athletes have a short athletic age! So it is!
What, cross them out of public life and all business?

So the athletes then go to the coaches, the same Tarasova.

[rocket757]

How many athletes and how many trainers?

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

How many athletes and how many trainers?

Such trainers must be employed in schools, there is a big shortage, and in the children's sections, if you have a vocation for sports.

[rocket757]

Calling for sports, this is not enough. Of course there are nuggets that can also train, but in general it is a whole science, physical culture is called! People \ athletes are also taught this, pedagogy is called !!! Especially those who work with children should.
As I always recall, there should be an integrated approach in everything!
This is the case of everyone and the athletes, too! It is necessary to receive a specialized education.

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

This is the case of everyone and the athletes, too! It is necessary to receive a specialized education.

That's exactly what the "profile". But from sports to finance ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Alf

But from sports to finance ...

It happens! That kind of talent a person revealed, not immediately.
By the way, where do athletes manage our finances? So Schaub at a serious or at least average level?

[Alf]

Quote: rocket757

That kind of talent a person revealed, not immediately.

It is a pity that the talent of a turner-locksmith does not wake up.

[Alf]

Quote: Silvestr

Vicious Practice: Athlete Politics

And Kobzon in the Duma?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: rocket757

How do gymnasts go to their Olympic and other heights ??? I will not wish such an enemy! There is only great work and pain! After all, neither Papiks, nor Mamiks WERE nearby! This of course is not a wave of Kyle, but I RESPECT our athletes from and to!
Their psyche is so tuned, only by their own labor .... it is clear that sports schools, bases and coaches are needed, these are mostly sovereign people, but .... I already wrote about great personal work!
She said the way she understands life, how she was raised .... i.e. about demographics in the country and the attitude of the upper authorities towards this, she simply does not understand!
A physical education methodologist may turn out to be a good one, but the talking head, the responsible official, doesn’t seem like her! I didn’t orient in time, she said that she herself thinks, etc. .... well, I couldn’t!

I completely agree with you - there are fewer gymnasts of her level in the world than marine commandos, with their strict selection and brutal training. It’s just that they don’t say that in her position. If these words were said by her in the gym as a trainer, I would have agreed one hundred percent.

[rocket757]

Quote: Krasnodar

If these words were spoken by her in the gym as a trainer

I am not surprised by sales estimates of the majority !!!
They just didn’t teach many, and didn’t have to work with such intensity, dedication, pain .... however, many people did not learn to think either.
The man said WHAT THOUGHTS, not what they want to hear from her !!! ALL ON GARLIC !!! ALL CLEAR!!!
Probably many are nicer to have sweet noodles on their ears ..... than to know the bitter truth.
In fact - a state in which we have citizens, not socially oriented, it is focused on serving interests .... fat belts, bureaucrats and their servants. We are the working class ... the contingent, which is, undoubtedly, the main resource of this territory .... i.e. multiplies, multiply and continue to replenish the workforce! To fame and fortune .... the rich, first of all, but for everyone and everything else, according to the residual, at best! Even on the savers of their wealth, something is being spent.
It's all just ..... a man said how she thought, but it turned out in fact, as it is !!!
And now FLASH !!! We are waiting with ratings.

[Krasnodar]

I'll tell you honestly, I'm a bourgeois. Just with a kibbutz upbringing. Those. freedom, equality, fraternity, etc.

[rocket757]

So we have the sales of the bourgeoisie divided into - those who all work! and those who stuck to the budget and all business! Yes, there are those who have stuck to natural resources !!! there is a kind of hybrid, who, to whom and how without a bottle, do not scatter!

[Krasnodar]

I don’t get involved with the budget

[rocket757]

Working with the budget, in itself, is not bad, this system was created to redistribute funds and resources not for work, but for someone’s selfish purposes .... this is a direct evil!

[Krasnodar]

Another thing bothers me more. According to the legislation of the Russian Federation, the state order can be paid after half a year. And I'm not so rich that having spent a lot of dough on performing work, wait six months for my money.

[rocket757]

Not in courses, not my area of ​​interest .... however, my brother-in-law works with the budget, an ordinary topic bought-brought-paid! Something like this.

[Krasnodar]

He got into a good scheme))
All that was offered to me was deferred payment and all that sort of thing. I did not get involved.

[The Siberian barber]

And thank God!))) Protect you from this thankless task!)))
As practice shows, it is better to distribute it

[Krasnodar]

At exactly But I and the state structure are not compatible things))

[ODERVIT]

PMS all the fault, first words, then thoughts. Alas, the sisters of reason are not to blame.

[Forestol]

these sisters are half the department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Is the world under the terrible threat of PMS?

[Tomich3]

"If a citizen is forced to pay for education and medical care, to accumulate a pension from his own funds, to pay housing and utilities in full, at market prices, then why do I need such a state ?! Why should I still pay taxes and maintain an insane army of officials? always said at all levels that health care, education and science should be provided from the budget. If the state dumps this concern on ourselves, let it disappear, it will be much easier for us! " Zhores Alferov.

[ohka]

Quote: rocket757

How do gymnasts go to their Olympic and other heights ???

It’s bad when the boots start to stitch the boots (well, or the cook steers the state). But in general. if we follow its logic, the state does not owe anything to athletes at the end of a career, which, in general, takes place in states where sport is primarily a sight and not an instrument of ideological policy.

[New Year day]

Quote: ohka

It’s bad when the boots start to stitch the boots

[Izotovp]

What kind of officials and deputies are they ?! Athletes, artists of different stripes. They saw nothing in life except the stage and the gym.
And the parents of these children will then say to these words: what military duty and patriotism ?! Which state? What are you talking about?

[Dimon grin]

Turanchokshy seized power on Earth.

[Curious]

And these people are laughing at Ukraine!

[anjey]

Olga Glatskikh during a round table with representatives of youth volunteer associations in Kirovgrad said that the state of youth "should not do anything."

Then there is nothing to be surprised that the Roslyakov, who are unnecessary and angry at all, appear who are ready for a stupid self-sacrifice AGAINST EVERYONE, taking innocent people with them instead of sacrificing themselves FOR THE MOTHERLAND, taking their real enemies to the battlefield with them, and the state will even at the beginning of the road they are renouncing, so the worst enemy inside the Motherland, the corrupt and obese officialdom, one of many, the real hydra, where are your Hercules ??? Which will eventually change this imperfect system ...

[Forestol]

indeed, it is surprisingly simple mass swaying of society. I suspect that this official has been in gymnastics since childhood, and since then the brains have been resting. But the question is for her leadership, and for the leadership of the country, these provocations are planned？ I’ll ask all my colleagues to control emotions, all this mess is for a reason.

[Consultant]

Quote: Forestol

nickname provocateur Consultant

Quote: Forestol

all this mess is not just

Funny ... well, and who among us is a provocateur?

[Alf]

Quote: Forestol

But the question is to her leadership, and to the country's leadership, these provocations are planned？

Why not ? There is an old as the world principle-you can’t ban-head. So is our government with the adored one at the head. It seems that it is waiting and deliberately spurring the discontent of the people, thus bringing the matter to revolt, in order to then sharply with the help of the National Guard put the plebs in their place once and for all.

[midshipman]

How shameful to hear that. I will give examples from my life. From 1978 to 1979, I had 45 defense enterprises of the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry (6 GU) under my control. They employed about 250 thousand specialists. At large enterprises, "factories - high schools" were created. Young people already from the 3rd year knew their jobs. In the summer, the guys also worked, earned money, and had practical training.
There were fully automated sections, workshops. I remember there were more than 20 GAPs. Electrons and tape recorders left the assembly line in 40 seconds. This has not happened in any country in the world. Young people at the expense of enterprises received housing. The average age of employees in enterprises was 31 years for 55% of specialists.
And now the official says such words. It is a crime.

[Terenin]

Quote: midshipman

And now the official says such words. It is a crime.

I agree, unequivocally, to dismiss her from her post, to appoint her head of department with a decrease. The whole department has unscheduled certification. You need to think that you are speaking on behalf of the state while officially in office.

[ohka]

Quote: Friedrich

Already I began to change shoes that the phrase was taken out of context. That they say she said an extremely patriotic speech about the institution of the family, which carried the deepest sacred meaning, and some bastards misinterpreted everything ...

The word is not a sparrow, shit so that you won’t wash yourself!

[Alf]

Quote: ohka

Quote: Friedrich

Already I began to change shoes that the phrase was taken out of context. That they say she said an extremely patriotic speech about the institution of the family, which carried the deepest sacred meaning, and some bastards misinterpreted everything ...

The word is not a sparrow, shit so that you won’t wash yourself!

And who said she was going to launder?

[Yan Sergeev]

The question is backfill: in which case is less hypocrisy? When a successful athlete in power declares that the state does not need people, or when Putin V.V. declares that his main task is to take care of the citizens of Russia?

[Igoresha]

to recertification young lady !!! as well as her boss.

[kefan]

They will pick up on the announcement. This could be said only by a not very smart woman.

[morpogr]

Not very smart, not distant, attached by someone to a not dusty position. And it is immediately clear that he does not follow the news about the regional adventures of officials. The minister from Saratov would have told her. And now the glory and the challenge prize "stupidity, stupidity and cynicism" goes to Sverdlovsk to the Galitskys.

[renics]

And why did she take this position in the Department of Youth Policy in order to sit at a table in her office and answer all of us, we do not perform such functions. Why do we need these posts with the functions of a talking head. Let him go to work at the factory. In her life, she had never worked anywhere; she just jumped and spun in the stadium.

[New Year day]

here is another figure from Edra in Sverdlovsk who appeared

something is wrong there

[Dart]

Quote: Random

yes we have half a site like this

I agree...

[Sotskiy]

If, according to this representative of the government, the State does not owe the population anything, then the logical conclusion arises that the population also owes such a State nothing. Alaverdi as they say. So we “before united” in the hot embrace of the people with the “elite”. And if this was an isolated incident, but no! The aggravation against the background of sanctions along the way is completely killing the brains of our assorted officials. It’s just some kind of trouble, an epidemic. Where is our optimized Rosepidnadzor looking?

[933454818]

Well, if today the state does not owe anything to children, then tomorrow these children will not owe anything to the state....

[Alf]

Quote: 933454818

Well, if today the state does not owe anything to children, then tomorrow these children will not owe anything to the state....

So THEIR children don’t owe Russia anything NOW.

[Prisoner]

What can we do here? An Olympic champion in rhythmic gymnastics, not a winner of the Mathematical Olympiad. He has no mind and is considered crippled.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Captive

What can we do here? An Olympic champion in rhythmic gymnastics, not a winner of the Mathematical Olympiad. He has no mind and is considered crippled.

Well, yes, well, yes. Why does a girl need brains? The main thing is stretching!

[RitaNik]

Quote: Svarog

She speaks on behalf of the state ... well, wait ... someone is clearly provoking an uprising ..

I think that many officials at different levels think the same way. Indeed, their statements were often broadcast to the public.

[nov_tech.vrn]

I actually would like to watch the ENTIRE performance, because the “official” is this former athlete, which is not synonymous with eloquence and sophisticated mind, it seems that she fell under a load of crap on the fan, a piece of her pearls is everywhere, and there is no full performance anywhere

[JD1979]

Stupid athletes... I myself work in an organization from the Ministry of Sports. We have such fools in our bosses. It’s difficult for her... she’s freed up space, there aren’t enough janitors in the housing and communal services sector.

[Vadim237]

Would you like to become a janitor?

[O. Bender]

Another dog's foster sister again? I'm so sorry, but what is a coworking space? Is it censored?

[gunnerminer]

Psaki was not listed in United Russia. Psaki is a US citizen. And her response to Russian citizens is normal. The official is a Russian citizen.

[tatra]

What else can you expect from the enemies of the communists, who back in the late 80s captured the country under the slogan “we don’t owe anything to this country and this people.”

[akudr48]

This was honestly said by the entire government to the entire people of Russia. If there were more such words from the authorities, it would reach the people faster.

[Alf]

Quote: akudr48

It would quickly reach the people.

HERE it doesn’t reach everyone, HERE are its defenders, and you speak to “the people.”

[Reserve buildbat]

This “not a bird” has already stated that the phrase is taken out of context. And Kuyvashev (also alternatively gifted), but the governor, after all, announced that he would study the performance and talk with her.
Attention, question: Which **** (censorship) put this “group gymnast” in office, who belongs in Kolyma or in the yellow house?

[Viktor77]

Why do the population of our country need such officials? Why do they receive good salaries, pensions, free housing? They are, after all, representatives of the authorities, the state. It turns out that the state doesn’t owe anyone anything! Only ordinary people should support this horde of insolent, snickering bodies. If you were born, you already owe a debt.

[boriz]

The trouble is that in the Russian Federation there are 4 times more of them than there were in the entire USSR. They began to receive (relative to price changes) 10 times more (meaning only official incomes and pensions). They have long been accustomed to the fact that we may not be considered people, and nothing will happen to them for it.
From communicating with people who know this kitchen from the inside, I realized that about a quarter are actually involved in the business there.

[nord62]

curious - who appointed this brainless official?

[Consultant]

Quote: nord62

and who appointed this brainless woman as an official?

Voters

According to party lists, not otherwise. We have the “best in the world” electoral system, and then the vegetable will be recalled by the one whom did not choose.

[boriz]

No, voters have nothing to do with it. She is not a deputy, not the head of the Duma committee. She is the head of a department of the regional government. Appointed executive officer.

[boriz]

I understand that they don’t give a damn about people, but are they really that stupid?
Isn't that enough of an example of this stupid pasta?

[Alf]

Quote: boriz

I understand that they don’t give a damn about people, but are they really that stupid?
Isn't that enough of an example of this stupid pasta?

Are you sure that in six months the makaroshka will not be assigned to another position? Furnituremarshal as an example.

[Romanenko]

Quote: "Denis Vasilievich Davydov 1803:

Head and legs

Tired of running daily
On the dirt, on the sand, on the hard pavement,
Once the legs are very angry
Talked to Golova:
"For what we have under your authority such
That a whole century should obey you alone;
Day, night, autumn, spring,
Only thought you, if you please run, drag
There, here, where you are going;
And to this still, shrouded in stockings,
Treads and boots,
You are starving us like exiled slaves, -
And, sitting at the top, you just blink your eyes,
Calmly judge everything
About the world, about people, about fashion,
About calm and bad weather;
You often amuse yourself at our expense
With ridicule, caustic words, -
And, in a word, with poor Legs
How you twirl checkers."
“Be silent, impudent ones,” the Head told them, “
Or by force I will silence you! ..
How dare you rebel
When is nature given to us to command?"
"All this is good, let you command,
At least she wouldn't throw us everywhere,
But your whims cannot be fulfilled by us;
Yes, between us, I must admit,
If you have the right to rule
Then we have the right to stumble
And sometimes we can stumble, - how can we be -
Your Majesty will be smashed against a stone."

Everyone knows the meaning of this fable ...
But it should - huh! - be silent: - who keeps talking."

I think it’s just time to argue with the last phrase. Such good officials and officials as Olga Glatskikh should have one answer - a kick in the ass!

[hrulevv]

Another narrow-minded klutz will be fired without organizational conclusions that officials should be recruited not on the basis of media fame and proximity to anyone, but on the basis of mental and personal parameters...

[Berkut24]

Childish prank. I thought that now he would bark “on your knees, slaves!”

[gunnerminer]

I didn’t send you there. A civilian response to a military one. An analogy.

A state that refuses to care for the weak, the elderly, the disabled, and the young is doomed. Moving on to the strategy of devouring the weak, at every moment there will always be weaker ones that need to be eaten. And yesterday’s successful ones will eventually be devoured by even more successful ones. Such a system is always oriented towards “collapse”. That is why even the primitive communal Cro-Magnons began to take care of the weaker representatives of their tribe - without them, oddly enough, the tribe very quickly turned out to be the prey of others.
Alas, the Olympic champion has significantly less brains than the Cro-Magnon man. These things are not available to her.

[GibSoN]

Alas, the Olympic champion has significantly less brains than

Alas, every person adapts to the conditions of existence! This is laid down at the genetic level. No matter how good or bad you are, you will eventually have to adapt to the conditions in which you are forced to live. Society dictates the rules! No matter how anyone would like it otherwise.

[Sergei75]

Replace the word state with government and it will be correct.

[Vard]

In principle, it reflects the general trend... The state has been behaving this way lately...

[Sergei75]

Do not confuse those who hold power and the territory in which we live.

[Jerk]

Aftsa is greedy

[ROBIN-SON]

Russia 24 announced a story about this gymnast in the news at 18-00. I waited until the end, but did not wait. Sports started. Taken off the air?

[GibSoN]

Russia 24 announced a story in the news

RIA Novosti was among the last to publish an article. Almost immediately after it, it appeared on RT. By that time, almost all less federal media already contained not just articles on the news, but even articles about the response of the governor, the response of someone from the federal structures.. There is no need to draw any conclusions here. Everything here is simple to the point of banality.

[Alf]

Quote: ROBIN-SON

Taken off the air?

"Don't rock the boat."

[Servisinzhener]

Why then, after two years of work, did she not write a memo to the governor about the uselessness of the department she heads and the need to disband it? Or did you just now realize it?

[Alf]

Quote: Servisinzhener

Why then, after two years of work, did she not write a memo to the governor about the uselessness of the department she heads and the need to disband it?

And from what vegetables then can you get two apartments, two pieces of land and two cars? Should we really go to the panel?

[Servisinzhener]

Immortal Sharikovskoye: I can’t live without food. Where will I eat?

[Rostislav]

Being a talented athlete does not mean being able to lead effectively. When will it dawn on you that not every cook can run a state.
Or are they specially sneaking in such “clever” ones so as not to interfere with those who really govern the region? When people like this are nearby..., any decision can be made.

[Servisinzhener]

Here they want organizational conclusions. And I remember the method of organizational conclusions, in my opinion, from the film “Gold of the Party” there were two of them. The first: a phone call, after which the listener jumped out the window. And the second: a motorcyclist passing at high speed smacked the unwanted person in the throat with a sapper's shovel. Although maybe it was in some other movie.

[contour]

Personally, I am glad that I am speaking the truth on behalf of the existing government of a crazy state of an unfortunate country.

[Million]

She looks like Buzova. Although, Buzova will be smarter...

[exo]

The girl carelessly voiced what the officials were saying to each other.

[Terenin]

Quote: exo

The girl carelessly voiced what the officials were saying to each other.

I wonder if she signs her salary slip as “girlfriend” or as “department head”?
Py.sy.
EKATERINBURG, November 5, 2018, 15:43 — REGNUM Director of the Youth Policy Department of the Sverdlovsk Region Olga Glatskikh, who at a meeting with young people stated that the state did not ask their parents to give birth, earned money in 2017 1 ruble Information about income is published on the official website of the regional government.

[Dzafdet]

Fire him and send him to study the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Another edrosnitsa. Disperse these parasites. It is necessary to dissolve the State Duma and hold new elections. And Edro should be banned altogether... Everyone will be put on trial and sent to camp for 10 years...

[Sergei75]

You can recruit new clowns, but the circus will remain.

[loginovich]

What does the darkest one think about this? Or did Madame voice his opinion? If this is not Vovyno’s opinion, then this is the opinion of the state bourgeoisie. What they talk about in their circle is what they talk about in public. Uncle Vova, are you with us?

[Slavs]

Dimka, Dimka said the same thing.... They don’t owe us that’s all...

[Leonidych]

Does she have children? I really doubt.

[stalki]

And even if there are, then she obviously wears purple on them.

[Waldemar]

I don't want them to multiply

[Voker74]

not worthy of emotion. We've already passed.

[NordUral]

This is the bitch, the true face of our government.

[Guillon]

Well then, maybe we don’t need the state and you, the mummered rat, along with it?!! Don't waste our money, which by the way is taxpayers' money!!!

[Gardamir]

According to the declaration, the civil servant owns two plots of land measuring 900 and 533 square meters, an apartment with an area of ​​116 square meters, a garage and Mercedes-Benz ML 350 and Lada 212140 cars. In addition, she has two more apartments in her use.

In the document for 2016, and then Glatskikh became the head of the youth policy department of the Sverdlovsk region, her annual income was 4,25 million rubles.

They began to excuse this pasta, like apologizing with a reprimand.

[Note 2]

The state apparently thinks so, even if the residents of the country collect for children with rare diseases!

[rocket757]

Lord, give these people some sense, give them at least a small chance to wise up and put their heads in order!!! This is me, not a believer in higher powers at all! You no longer know what to hope for and who to turn to!
We have a SYSTEM of state power, anti-people in all respects, exists and sales are thriving, and the people are discussing the chatter of an ingenuous unofficial!
Where will we end up like this? It really seems to me that we haven’t reached our hole yet!

[APASUS]

But honestly !
No one is being hypocritical, no one is trying to talk about the social orientation of the state’s policy. Maybe she didn’t want to, but she showed her cards.
I’m not at all surprised when Navalny gathers children for protests, they really listen to such government officials!!!

[stalki]

You need these on the wall. Did she herself understand at that moment what her tongue was doing? This has become a pattern lately, a certain layer of bureaucrats of a certain age produces anti-national pearls. Clearly a lost generation.

[faterdom]

Here she is - the mother of the Kerch freak and the Arkhangelsk bomber.
In general, there is a fair amount of noise in Eburg. Like Chernobyl, so libertarian. Nobody knows what kind of object can emit such light?

[Sergei75]

Well, let’s not confuse the state and the government, our government really doesn’t owe the people anything, and what it owes, it forgives

[Slavs]

Dima Medvedev has already charged students with this, that the state doesn’t owe us anything... So she’s repeating herself after her idol... And did her mom and dad prepare for the Olympic Games?? Female dog... We don't owe you anything... Only to the Soviet Union, but not to you... The stupid statements of brats will lead to the fact that the government will have to answer, having locked itself in the Winter Palace, perhaps someone will try to escape in a woman's dress ..)))

[Clone]

I love women. One might say, very much! But not in leadership positions, because he takes them in a childish way from his exalted position above... no matter who. The main thing is that it is over someone. Exceptions, unfortunately, were observed very rarely.
An analogy with the famous “woman-at-the-wheel” meme involuntarily suggests itself.

[Waldemar]

Another filthy lout? Well, we shouldn’t contain this brown crap. The yard of revenge has arrived!

[LeftPers]

"....and officials work for "three-kopeck salaries"... wow-ha, I see confirmation of this all the time when I pass by their "three-kopeck cars" parked near their "three-kopeck residential complexes" where their " three-kopeck apartments,” and as for this bureaucrat, which is discussed in the article, it is not clear why she has not yet joined the army of the unemployed.

[Awaz]

Well, although I was late for the main conversation, but still - back in the last century, somewhere in Sweden, it seems, one comrade spoke out in the sense that while the country is ruled by all sorts of singers, former athletes and similar husks, and smart and educated people are leaving the country, and the chaos and destruction of both the country and the nation will continue.
And even if this chicken is partially right in the sense that everyone must still solve their own problems, but in general, officials are hired workers whom we (the people) hired and who must work for us, with our own money. All the money that the state has is our money and we must decide what to spend it on. The task of officials is purely technical: to fulfill our whims))).
HOWEVER, the aunt deserves obstruction and removal from power... Let him go and train children in some regional sports school...

[Carib]

Dismiss for “incomplete compliance” without severance pay. As long as they say it, they mean it. The truth is they probably think even worse. With such a low IQ, only a whitewasher or a cleaner, even a nurse, requires more intelligence and participation.

[Qwertyarion]

Another "MAKAROSHKA"

[Alexander Ra]

It's amazing how dissatisfied we are with the authorities. Can power without feedback not degenerate? The Americans gave us power in the 90s, but we are so afraid of our power that we don’t come close to it. I would like to come up and pat you on the shoulder...

[Scharnhorst]

I listened to the girl’s speech - nothing special that could offend the audience (those present, by the way, not only officials, did not express “deepest indignation”). And liberal homebodies, champions of constitutional freedoms, have become excited, the product of a consumer society, to which supposedly everyone owes: parents, the state, society, even janitors and traffic cops! Yes, the state “should” provide everyone with equal opportunities at the start (I mean young people), providing free universal education, social guarantees, but then do it yourself! And the Olympic champion-official simply tried to convey her thoughts as best she could, not on paper, in her own words, in the process of live communication with those gathered, she did not silence anyone, everyone could challenge and correct. In the end, this is only her opinion, expressed somewhat tongue-tiedly, and none of the recognized authorities has yet condemned her.