Ukrainian "Naftogaz" launched a plan "B"

In connection with the continuation of the construction of the Nord Stream-2, the management of Naftogaz will focus on the implementation of Plan B, reports RIA News statement of the head of the Ukrainian company Yuri Vitrenko.

According to him, Kiev failed to persuade Germany to abandon the construction of the gas pipeline, therefore the danger that the transit of Russian fuel through Ukraine will stop is becoming more and more real.

In this regard, Naftogaz launched a plan "B", involving further litigation with Moscow.

We are already trying to compensate for financial losses,

said Vitrenko.

The company has initiated a new arbitration, it has "almost started." The company requires more than $ 12 billion, of which 10 is compensation for the fact that after 2019, Ukraine will lose gas transit, he said.

The head of Naftogaz explained that option “A” is to save transit. And the Ukrainian side will continue to fight for it in parallel with the implementation of the plan "B".

To the remark of the Ukrainian journalist that Angela Merkel promised to keep the transit, Vitrenko replied that he was not aware of these promises. In any case, the European Union does not give clear guarantees, he added.

Recall that the agreement on the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine expires at the end of 2019. In this regard, Kiev strongly opposes the construction of any new gas pipelines, which will bypass the Ukrainian territory.

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[The Siberian barber]

[/ quote] In this regard, Naftogaz activated Plan B, which envisaged further litigation with Moscow.
[Quote]

... then plan "B", and then alphabetically))) please note, in the Russian alphabet)))

[Logall]

You can lose your mind! They want money for the fact that we decided to send our parcel with another courier. For some reason, they consider the gas that could go through their territory to be their property ...
They are asking for compensation for the fact that we have ceased to believe the THIEF!

[figwam]

Quote: Logall

They are asking for compensation for the fact that we have ceased to believe the THIEF!

What UKRGAZ was, remained so.

[Pereira]

Not certainly in that way.
It seems wild to us. But from the point of view of Svidomo everything is absolutely logical and justified.
Over the past decades of Soviet power, he absorbed the idea with his mother’s milk that Russia should always feed the noble and exalted Ukraine in everything. Therefore, an empty feeding trough is perceived as the greatest injustice, as a violation of all conceivable freedoms and democratic values.
But the point is not that there is nothing to eat. There is something more terrible. Svidomo used to consider himself the smartest. Therefore, the fact of feeding was always perceived as a historic overtaking of a smart Ukrainian over a stupid Russian, and this warmed the soul no worse than a gorilka, or even better.
The realization that a freebie is over is not only a necessity to work on your own. This is the collapse of the universe, in which the Ukrainian is a winner, and the Russian is a loser. This is a new era that has flushed the Ukrainian national idea (to deceive the Russian) into the toilet, requiring a complete reformatting of public consciousness. Do they need it?
How to live now, realizing that you are no longer cunning? No, they do not agree.

I can’t stay without food. Where will I grumble? (Tse).

Turn everything back.

[helmi8]

Quote: Pereira

Over the past decades of Soviet power, he absorbed the idea with his mother’s milk that Russia should always feed the noble and exalted Ukraine in everything. Therefore, an empty feeding trough is perceived as the greatest injustice, as a violation of all conceivable freedoms and democratic values.

This is exactly the case. They have such speeches - they will give us, they will help us ... And we will not make a word, we will build ...

[LSA57]

Quote: helmi8

This is exactly the case. They have such speeches - they will give us, they will help us ... And we will not make a word, we will build ...

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Pereira

Over the past decades of Soviet power, he absorbed the idea with his mother’s milk that Russia should always feed the noble and exalted Ukraine in everything.

This has been typical not only for the last decades, and not only for Ukrainians. The entire Russian liberal intelligentsia is like that! To feed on the state while hating it and in every possible way haya. Just remember what a howl raised by our "creators" of anti-Soviet Russophobic films, when they tried to excommunicate from the state feed))) So nothing new! This only shows once again that they are not Europeans, but part of the Russian world, and the worst part of it ...

[Tusv]

Quote: Logall

They are asking for compensation for the fact that we have ceased to believe the THIEF!

What are you What are you. Believe Believe. I personally saw a signed check for 100 quadrillion holes from a donut

[Chertyak]

Quote: Logall

They want money for the fact that we decided to send our parcel with another courier.

That is how the poet and we after all paid them when they hated us for nothing and even bombed those who are with Russia!

Quote: Logall

They are asking for compensation for the fact that we have ceased to believe the THIEF!

Some "God's chosen" do just that and the whole world is silent .. Or rather, their purchased media!
I remember our channels "ORT and NTV, Kommersant" in the 90s, etc. "were also under the Jews, there was a horror of what was going on, they actually ruled Russia .. Someone was against the robbery and immediately the persecution began terrible! ..
These are the things my friend Alexander ..!
Russian Jews can not agree with Ukrainian .. hehe Something is going on like this, but the people have cookies, as usual!

[Vard]

The whole ... garden vegetable ... in that they win the courts ... our roofing felts are stupid lawyers, the roofing felts are ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: Vard

The whole ... garden vegetable ... is that they win the courts ...

The question is, what courts have they won? The second question is what leverage do these courts have to make us pay them something?

[Vard]

Stockholm Arbitration Court ...

[SSR]

Quote: Logall

You can lose your mind! They want money for the fact that we decided to send our parcel with another courier.

Urgently to court! Fiends at a great-aged Sumera, the aggressor removes his tit!

therefore, the danger that the transit of Russian fuel through Ukraine will cease is becoming ever more real.

From the category when "simplicity is worse than thistle", that is, we are the aggressors, cotton wool but do not touch the transit! and nothing that sometimes we steal gas, so it is customary for the Sumerians to dig the sea, shave gas.

[krops777]

You can lose your mind!

In 2019, old contracts expire which still require something from Gazprom (Gazprommers didn’t expect such agility from their Ukrgas partners since they managed to find loopholes in contracts and get profits for undelivered volumes of gas in the EU), the launch will take place at the end of 2019 SP-2, Ukraine will have to shove its plan B far away and deeper, they have only one way out to conclude extremely unprofitable contracts in order to at least somehow make ends meet. Well, what you wanted is what you get.

[zhekazs]

Quote: krops777

(Gasprom did not expect such agility from their partners Ukrgas once they managed to find loopholes in contracts and get profits for undelivered gas volumes in the EU)

And I think that it is not necessary to stop transit through Ukrostan, but with one condition: to sell Russian pipe gas at the Russia-Ukraine border at a price of, say, 5% less than the cost LNG in the port of Poland / Latvia / Germany. They will be able to sell this gas at such a price themselves - the flag is in their fist. From us "bribes are smooth" - we keep our promise of transit, there were no contracts on the price, we can sell for 1000 per cubic meter. They won't be able to sell - their problems - nothing terrible will happen for Europe - there are alternative ways, competition in all its glory, and at more attractive prices - SP-1, SP-2, which, with a small construction of gas transportation infrastructure in Europe, will be able to cover needs Central European countries, supplied through the territory of Ukraine, then there is the southern route of gas supplies. As for the gas supply to Ukraine itself, they are now already "fed", supposedly with reverse gas, and if it is unprofitable for them to purchase gas for domestic consumption on the Russian border, then for them, with the introduction of this scheme, their dream will only come true (and reality) about getting rid of gas dependence on the aggressor, because gas will be supplied to Ukraine according to the reverse scheme from Europe and it will smell quite differently.
If you implement a similar scheme, then Wolves will be full and Sheep intact, namely - Russia increases supply volume + profitability to the budget, Europe receives three routes for gas supplies, which will ensure uninterrupted and competitive routes, Ukraine remains with its pipe and with the volumes of transit gas - it will depend on them how and to whom they can sell pipe gas at the price of LNG + there remains a lever for economic pressure from Russia.
I do not think this is fantasy. Who knows, maybe the Great and Terrible thought of it 10 years ago ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: krops777

they have only one option to conclude extremely unprofitable contracts in order to at least somehow make ends meet.

The whole point is that Gazprom will not conclude new contracts directly with the Urkain side. The supply of transit gas is possible only if Urkain loses control of his gas transportation system, which implies its transfer to the control of another owner. Considering that no one has invested in modernizing the Ukrainian gas transportation system for many years, I don’t know if there is a desperate buyer.

[not main]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Quote: krops777

they have only one option to conclude extremely unprofitable contracts in order to at least somehow make ends meet.

The whole point is that Gazprom will not conclude new contracts directly with the Urkain side. The supply of transit gas is possible only if Urkain loses control of his gas transportation system, which implies its transfer to the control of another owner. Considering that no one has invested in modernizing the Ukrainian gas transportation system for many years, I don’t know if there is a desperate buyer.

The whole "trick" is that we do not abandon the Ukrainian pipe, and are ready to continue transit! BUT, given the state of the gas pipeline, in short, if the transit remains, but at the level of 10-20 percent of the estimated, then this is a direct loss to Krajina! Even when using more than 100 percent, they did not invest anything in the GTS! They have another task "to cut the dough and dump"!

[Lelek]

Quote: Logall

They are asking for compensation for the fact that we have ceased to believe the THIEF!

Angela at a secret "evening" with Waltzman made him understand that the SP-2 is a European priority, and the ruin chimney - in any case, if the frosts of "Europe" crush. Veiled, this is a cross on the GTS Ruins. So, a thief and an abomination can whine and file lawsuits as much as he wants, and the freebie ends.

[Thrall]

But what about "the whole world is with us"?

[hrych]

Merkel has already been accused of losing the Crimea and the Donbass, but mind you, after she sang about the end of her career.

[Ilya-spb]

Operation Y"?

[Observer2014]

Ilya-spb (Ilya)

Operation Y"?

Not a. Plan "B" This is plan "Benya"

[Chertyak]

Quote: Ilya-spb

Operation Y"?

Exactly !

[hrych]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

.then plan "B"

There are categories for meat products, for example, you should always look at the category of sausages and dumplings, and so, when the category "A" (Atlichna ), category "B" (Bole-mene), category "C" (stench), category "D" (in general, the most common name for excrement). In short, an area, like a meat product approaching the stage of rigor mortis, boldly approaches the gas substance you specified, but which is not a product of the earth's interior, but peas, etc.

[sabakina]

Hrych, good health! All the same, Bulgakov was more than a genius!

[hrych]

Quote: sabakina

Hrych, good health! All the same, Bulgakov was more than a genius!

Hello good! He was no more than a genius, he was just a genius

[kuznec]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

then plan "B", and then alphabetically)))

Yes, just plan "P".

[A good one]

They have the whole alphabet, with letters, for this at hand, a lot of plans, a lot of things, but still there will be no destiny.

[The Siberian barber]

A lot of plan - a lot of plans

[mvd ru]

: they have a similar main "scheduler" laughing:

[sabakina]

Quote: Not bad

They have the whole alphabet, with letters, for this at hand, a lot of plans, a lot of things, but still there will be no destiny.

Well, why did you get the Ukrainians? In the Latin alphabet they want to get away from the complete "cardan" from the Cyrillic alphabet, where the letter "G" is in fourth place! Promibo!

[210ox]

I'm already laughing ... Everything is just plan "B" ... It's time to include plan "U" ..

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Everything according to V. Mayakovsky ... Huge plans.

[Bull Terrier]

This plan is just predictable. Litigation for any, even the most stupid occasion to knit hands. For example, to file a lawsuit for not prolonging the contract with them) it’s frank nonsense) but they won’t pull it out either now) they don’t have a problem to win. There is a task to complicate everything for us and then through blackmail to get preferences. The Poles apparently learned

[taiga2018]

Quote: 210ox

plan "Yu"

such a plan will also appear, they will choose an allegedly slightly better president for Russia, and our authorities, who still believe in a mythical brotherhood, will weigh their ears and preserve transit ...

[Retvizan 8]

They switch to plan "B", because the situation in the country is "F".

[sabakina]

Dima, would you like to pick up the Operation Southern Thunder cards? By the way, the film is also interesting!

[Egorovich]

Want is not harmful! Wait, I’m waiting for help. It’s amazing how you want Khokhlov holvy.

[Tusv]

Quote: Egorovich

Want is not harmful! Wait, I’m waiting for help. It's amazing how Khokhlov holvy want

Well, we have something to pay.

Quote: Ostap Bender

There are also sleeves from the vest, a hole from a donut and a dead donkey ears

[figwam]

The head of Naftogaz explained that option “A” is to save transit. And the Ukrainian side will continue to fight for it in parallel with the implementation of the plan "B".

Ingenious calculation, plan A - there is gas, plan B - there is no gas, and then operation S.

[501 Legion]

Strange are these ukrogolovy. If I am a supplier. I agreed with transit A ​​for 10 years, for example, about transit. But during this time, the market expanded and other transit bifurcations B and C appeared. In any case, I should use only one A and crap him for what he wants there if the contract has ended. I want and use B and C so that it is beneficial if it is so convenient and cheap for me. That shouldn’t worry them at all.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: 501Legion

and naughty him for what he wants there, if the more the contract has ended.

No no no! You must, must!

[Non liberoid Russian]

it's all F and X ... greed and a freebie

[mig29mks]

They see that the Russian government is silent, so they mock as they want! Soon something else, do not you think, for the occupation for example.

[Berkut24]

The company requires more than $ 12 billion, of which 10 are compensation for the fact that after 2019 Ukraine will lose gas transit, he said.

Those. Ukrainina demands compensation for the fact that she does not want to conclude an agreement on her terms. From the point of view of jurisprudence, this is an empty chatter for hohlopipl. Firstly, the arbitration only considers concluded contracts. Secondly, arbitration must be initiated by both parties according to the terms of the contract. Russia will not appear for trial and its decision will not be recognized, because there is nothing to discuss, there is no contract and, accordingly, there is no contractual procedure for resolving disputes.

[Reserve buildbat]

And this is not at all their Skakuassky case. Our gas, we deliver it to Europe and decide for ourselves whether we need transit through the country of militant imbeciles or not.

[Retvizan 8]

The state economic policy of Ukraine, this is begging and blackmail.

[sir_obs]

Ukrainian "Naftogaz" launched a plan "B"

Now they will not jump and crawl

[Mountain shooter]

And here is the TRUE result of Merkel’s visit. Frau said - there will be a SP-2, but you will deal with transit yourself ... And what sort of showdowns are there? Absolutely no...

[KVU-NSVD]

Only about a year was left to capitalize the entire bag of the plan. As a result, complete inadequacy and overdose should be expected.

[Zomanus]

Yes, as soon as the JV-2 is put into operation, Ukraine will know
what is the attitude of the gentlemen to the servants.
And in the place with it is Poland and other countries through which our gas
went to western Europe.
There and Ukraine will draw new borders and explain for the return of debts ...

[Tusv]

"A" and "B" were sitting on the pipe. "A" fell "B" disappeared, who remained on the pipe? Not a fig not an "I". Please don't tell Naftogaz

[Jerk]

I started to implement the plan ...
It is high time! Such stupid nonsense that you smoke with the whole government - you must sell, you can get rich!

[Retvizan 8]

Here, apparently, the arithmetic for Germany is simple, it is more profitable to pay only the price of gas or pay for gas, plus pay for transit.

[Retvizan 8]

Now Parashenka, speaking at international venues and accusing Russia of aggressive actions, can swing a piece of pipe.
Cheap, pathos shows his horse.

[ohka]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Our gas, we supply it to Europe and decide for ourselves whether we need transit through the country of militant idiots or not.

No, this is decided, unfortunately in the EU (or, more precisely, the USA). We do not have alternatives for consumers of this volume (China does not really need our gas, and deliveries from other fields are planned there). Dreams that without our gas they would freeze there are unrealizable, straining and replacing our 35%. The whole calculation is only on greed (nimbleness of the Germans).

[APASUS]

Something tells me that this is a lawsuit in arbitration, we will lose to Ukraine. The West wants to keep the country and pay for the Russophobic policy of the country.
Another argument is that it’s time to put a big bolt on the EU and the USA, to slowly turn the economy towards Asia.

[Non liberoid Russian]

but there will be no arbitration ... for a start, there must be an agreement that the Russian Federation would violate ... plus this arbitration should be recognized as a judicial body in resolving a dispute under this agreement ... and so this is talk before the elections ... would the claim is real, then the Svidomo’s would indicate arbitration, and then check the case for 5 seconds

[APASUS]

Quote: Not Liberoid Russian

but there will be no arbitration ..

Of course there will be no arbitration, because there is no transit problem itself. But the essence of the West remains, I don’t know how Ukraine will be hanged on us, but the desire is very huge

[aszzz888]

The agreement on the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine expires at the end of the 2019 year.

... the glorious end of the inglorious under-state ...

[military pensioner]

"... Kiev is categorically against the construction of any new gas pipelines that will bypass Ukrainian territory ..."
So it means that the Turkish stream and the gas pipeline to China should be coordinated with the half-idols fascists from Kuev?
Loafers from an independent, you did not mix up rams?
Or they forgot how the Soviet army liberated Ukraine from such Nazi scum as Yarosh, Poruby, Tyagnibok and their fascist pack of looters and killers of civilians.
I remind you - they were destroyed PHYSICALLY ...

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: military pensioner

Or they forgot how the Soviet army liberated Ukraine from Nazi scum

The fact of the matter is that it was not the Nazi rabble, but the "holy" martyrs and guardians of the happiness of the Sumerian land. In general, I'm surprised that I still don't hear screams like, and who called you to release us, it was not bad for us anyway!

[Vasyan1971]

Well, what? Well settled down. Use transit - pay, do not use - pay.

[beeper]

These attempts seem absurd, because the transit agreement ends in 2019!
Initially, Russia, as a gas supplier and a partner in the CIS, offered Ukraine favorable PARTNERSHIP conditions for joint ownership and management of a transit gas pipeline, in which the Russian side assumed all the costs of modernizing all this, inherited from the "damned Soviets" in disrepair (without proper maintenance) infrastructure!
But for the sake of its overseas curators, the "orange prez" did not go for it, arguing that it was "zagyst national interests" so-called "national interests" are somehow present in the activities of this private company! ), at the same time persistently and obsequiously, on the most favorable conditions FOR THEM (completely to the detriment of "national interests), offering ownership of the trans-Ukrainian pipeline to their Western owners!"
At that time, it was already clear to the Ukrainian citizens, who were adequate, not engaged in destructive cave "Banderism", that the "orange" pro-American "policy" would not lead to anything good!
The so-called "Euromaidan" only exacerbated all the destructive processes in the so-called "independent", under the open external control of Washington, there was no talk of any rational (not to the detriment of national interests) independent policy at all - all the actions of the "Maidan authorities" are directed the destruction of the country and its infrastructure, including in an attempt to interrupt the transit of hydrocarbons from Russia to Europe and thereby ensure the growth of supplies of American liquefied gas there!
As the saying goes: "what we have, we do not store, having lost, we cry", and this is not only with gas!

[Moskovit]

Gazprom, for its part, switched to plan "U". Plan X has already been implemented. A source in Gazprom said that the company has started developing a third plan. Its name is still kept secret.

[askort154]

Recall that the agreement on the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine expires at the end of 2019. \

Here it is the date - the basis of all further events in Ukraine. In 2009, the term of the contract for the stay of our MOF in Sevastopol expired. NATO (USA) has already seen its base there. Putin "convinced" Tymoshenko (then the prime minister) to extend two parallel contracts - for gas and for our base in Sevastopol for another 10 years. The US plans were thwarted. Outcome: Tymoshenko served in prison, and instead of the NATO base in Sevastopol,
Crimea returned home safe and sound. Such a "gas" operation between Russia and "smart-ass Ukraine" turned into a disaster for the former Ukrainian SSR.

[bratchanin3]

Yes, even the plan "Yu" - you had to swagger and tyrit gas, but now go prove to yourself that the Outskirts are not a country of fools.

[Non liberoid Russian]

The company requires more than $ 12 billion, of which 10 are compensation for the fact that after 2019 Ukraine will lose gas transit, he said.

I wonder what arbitration? and how do they justify this?))))) I would read their lawsuit, so, for neighing ... like there are no transit agreements after 2019 and there weren’t, and Gazprom is unlikely to fulfill their Wishlist

[seregatara1969]

Where are the sanctions against Ukrainian companies - the cars of the "Nafta" company drive around Moscow!

[Kerensky]

Company requires more than $ 12 billion., of which 10 is compensation for the fact that after 2019 Ukraine will lose gas transit,

Where is "more than 2 billion"? Well, I mean, for what?

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Kerensky

Company requires more than $ 12 billion., of which 10 is compensation for the fact that after 2019 Ukraine will lose gas transit,

Where is "more than 2 billion"? Well, I mean, for what?

Apparently it is planned in the form of a rollback to a high London court. And, unsurprisingly, they can win - such is this incorruptible court when it comes to claims of their vassals against Russia!

[wicked pinnochio]

maybe hold them on the lips

[Dimon grin]

Russia, Belarus and Ukraine are Russia and some Judas are afraid of this reunion of one people.
Now, because of chaluev Zionism; Valtsman-Poroshenko and Tymoshenko-Kapitelman and Hitler-Schikelgruber and Lenin-Ulyanov-Blanck and Karl Marx, he is Mordechai Levy, it became clear and obvious to everyone how some representatives of one people on earth divided people by language and borders so that they can be easily bored .

[NF68]

Another circus performance performed by the current Ukrainian government. The repertoire is becoming more diverse.

[morpogr]

All their plans can be summed up with one phrase "give me a penny."

[NF68]

Quote: morpogr

All their plans can be summed up with one phrase "give me a penny."

Free pennies. Anyway, no one is going to return anything.

[razved]

The funny thing (or sad?) Is that some arbitration court (Stockholm or some other) can easily satisfy their lawsuit. Moreover, the argument will be approximately as follows: in connection with the difficult economic situation in the country ... after all, it was already something like this not so long ago ...

[Bypassed]

And after all, if the islanders and leaders of the EU are not given a brazen "red" face, then they can take a ride in their arbitration

[Elephant]

It is advisable to stop gas transit through the Ukrainian GTS after the completion of the contract in 2019! For the current government ukrov it will be much more sensitive than recent Medvedev sanctions.