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NI: T-90 is the best tank in the world, but how do Russians do it?

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Authors of the notorious American publication The National Interest, who have repeatedly praised American weapons and have expressed negative views on the Russian, said that the Russian Tanks T-90s are the "most dangerous in the world."


NI: T-90 is the best tank in the world, but how do Russians do it?


According to the authors of the material about the Russian tank, the T-90 demonstrates "real survivability miracles" and can fight in almost any conditions. As an example, they cite the war in Iraq, where the Russian tank, unlike American cars, shows itself perfectly on the battlefield. The Iraqi army, armed with the American Abrams, could not repel Mosul from terrorists, but the use of Russian tanks could turn the situation the other way, they say.

The publication writes that Russian T-90, armed with "massive armor with dynamic protection," adequately resist even the most modern anti-tank weapons, while American and German tanks "burn like matches" even from minor, as it seemed, damage.

In conclusion, the authors of the material write that they have to admit that only Russia manages to create tanks, which in some incomprehensible way work flawlessly in any conditions. How Russian engineers manage to do this is not known in the publication, but they admit that fact is a fact - Russian tanks are the most enduring tanks in the world.
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    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 2 November 2018 17: 16
      +42
      From the time of Koshkin (T-34) to this day, our design school is one of the best in the world, and taking into account our natural ingenuity, such miraculous tanks as T-90 and Armata appear.
      1. Arh
        Arh 2 November 2018 17: 22
        +18
        The best tanks in the world and it makes me happy bully and let them burn !!! wassat
        1. 210ox
          210ox 2 November 2018 17: 55
          +6
          Yes, who would argue .. Even the publication, which few people read ..
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 2 November 2018 19: 24
            +5
            Well, for plentiful fat dynamic liver protection, men drinks
        2. iaroslav.mudryi
          iaroslav.mudryi 2 November 2018 18: 04
          +11
          Quote: Arh
          The best tanks in the world and it makes me happy bully and let them burn !!! wassat

          Dear forum users! On this positive note, we are going to watch the film "Indestructible":

          At the heart of the film is the real story of the unique exploit of the KV-1 tank crew. Having accepted an unequal battle, the crew of Semyon Konovalov destroyed 16 tanks, 2 armored vehicles and 8 vehicles with enemy manpower in the area of ​​the Nizhnemityakin farm in the Tarasovsky district of the Rostov Region.
          1. Letun
            Letun 2 November 2018 21: 22
            +15
            Quote: iaroslav.mudryi
            Dear forum users! On this positive note, we are going to watch the film "Indestructible":

            Modern films about the Second World War have long ceased to inspire confidence in me. Surely another cranberry, with the obligatory scumbag specialist and events, well, very motivated.
            1. bashkir
              bashkir 3 November 2018 16: 50
              +1
              Look first, and then talk about cranberries. The creators, if anything, tried.
              1. KLV
                KLV 4 November 2018 11: 54
                +1
                "Tried" does not mean "could" at all.
          2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 2 November 2018 21: 33
            +29
            Quote: iaroslav.mudryi
            On this positive note, we are going to watch the film "Indestructible":

            I went to the film, watched the trailer, which made a good impression, crept in thoughts, and suddenly learned to make good films about the war and the people. Well, the theme of the second world is interesting. Most of the film takes place in the forest, where the tank unit stands. Well, everything is in order here, but how is it all presented. It’s 1942 in the yard for a year, and in the forest, tankers chase the gramophone to the fullest, drink moonshine, beat each other's faces and find out the relationship due to the sudden appearance of a female. German panzer - so they prefer to throw themselves in a dense pile under fire, moreover - to get lost in this very pile, to stand and rotate the towers - it’s good, they rotate. By the way - Pz IV Ausf.H, which is played by the converted T-44 in the film, appeared on the Soviet-German front a year later. A woman sleeping in a tank during a march and a radio operator gunner casting in a cartridge case are fresh and unsubstantiated finds of the scriptwriter. The feeling that the person who made this film knows little about the army, or about war and history. Despised the feat of such a film. I really hope that the viewer will punish these creators with the ruble, otherwise it’s just nothing.
            1. faterdom
              faterdom 2 November 2018 22: 11
              +5
              Well, my friend, you are picky. Yes, after "Bastards" or I don't remember there, something about an amorous German sniper in Stalingrad - so a giant step forward. You cannot reach modern youth with a black-and-white documentary, you cannot penetrate it. So let them pour it into the cartridge case, only the Germans are beaten as expected, even those of their tanks that appeared a year later. After all, in reality they, too, had to be wiped out by our same tankmen and self-propelled artillerymen.
            2. bashkir
              bashkir 3 November 2018 17: 05
              +2
              Good evening. You have correctly noticed the historical inconsistencies. It’s even strange that we didn’t go over the topic of the t-34-85 in 42. However, if you take a little time to watch interviews with the film's producers, you will see that they deliberately went to "some" liberties in order to shoot the film in real life. Those. the film features real tanks, not computer pictures.
              And yes, your thesis "and in the forest, tankers are driving a gramophone to the fullest, drinking moonshine, hitting each other's faces and sorting out the relationship because of a suddenly appeared female" does not stand up to criticism.
              1. Part of the tank, not at the forefront, they can also listen to the gramophone.
              2. They did not drink moonshine; look carefully.
              3. Do tankers beat each other's faces? The film shows a fight of only two people. For some reason, your thesis refers to a larger number of military personnel.
              4. Again, only 2 tank crews also figure out the relationship, and one did not know that the woman was the wife of the other.
              Something like that.
              My opinion, your opinion, hmm. Watch American movies like Rage. There the "truth" is shown.
              And the last thing. The feat is present in the film. And they will rot him, various kinds of comments from "specialists" who, of course, know better how to shoot a film.
            3. Altona
              Altona 3 November 2018 17: 51
              +6
              Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
              Well, everything is in order here, but how is it all presented. It’s 1942 in the yard, and in the forest, tankers chase the gramophone to the fullest, drink moonshine, beat each other's faces and sort things out because of the sudden appearance of a female.

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              This is called "to properly add the philistine life to the plot." Now all films are built on vulgarity and philistinism, supposedly "adding the truth to life." And there was nothing like that in nature. Despite all sorts of Lend-Leases and Studebakers, my grandfather marched throughout the war in the infantry until July 1944, when he died for the liberation of Minsk.
            4. Vipirozhnikow
              Vipirozhnikow 4 November 2018 10: 17
              +1
              Such films are mainly shot with the money of the cinema fund (read - "taxpayers"), so those who shoot on the drum will pay off there or not ... "Ruble" cannot punish them.
          3. basmach
            basmach 3 November 2018 10: 14
            +8
            He looked, swore quietly and spat. And there is nothing close to a real feat. Another "masterpiece". Only tank and surname match.
          4. Likant
            Likant 4 November 2018 00: 36
            0
            A week ago I read about it in some memoirs of veterans. There was a new type of reinforced defense between the barrel and the tower (the weak point of the old KV-1) and the Germans could not penetrate it. They burned the crew at the end of the story, sneaked up from the rear ... And so on a unit of equipment such damage is really a feat!
      2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 2 November 2018 17: 55
        +30
        Quote: Thought Giant
        From the time of Koshkin (T-34)

        T-34-85 and now in use in Syria. Did Koshkin know that his car will live so much ...

        Xnumx years old and still at war
        1. Machito
          Machito 2 November 2018 21: 04
          +3
          Our tanks are the most tank drinks
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 2 November 2018 19: 05
        +9
        it’s precisely that we have our OWN SCHOOL OF TANKING, so our tanks are completely unlike any other in the world, but about the all-weather use ... just out of competition.
      4. Ros 56
        Ros 56 2 November 2018 20: 37
        +1
        I’m wondering who put the minus to you, how did you substantiate your position?
        1. Esteid
          Esteid 3 November 2018 15: 36
          +1
          Quote: Ros 56
          I’m wondering who put the minus to you, how did you substantiate your position?
          an organized group of "strangers among their own" from the Middle East.
      5. Huumi
        Huumi 3 November 2018 16: 52
        +2
        By the end of 40, the T-34 was found to be inadequate in terms of armor protection and many other parameters. It did not work to mount the armor and the development of the T-34M tank began, which essentially had nothing to do with the T-34. In the middle of 41 years, armor kits were made hulls and towers (183 and Mariupol factories), preparing for the assembly of the tank in torsion bars and most importantly for 5 crew members and an expanded shoulder strap of the tower, etc.
      6. Vlvl
        Vlvl 4 November 2018 12: 33
        0
        Before the T-34, there were also good tanks.
    2. Maz
      Maz 2 November 2018 17: 22
      +4
      Wow! How many times burned in the video and the crew is intact
    3. Mcar
      Mcar 2 November 2018 17: 44
      -11
      Quote: Bobblehead3000
      The best tanks, the best president!

      The tank created in the Soviet Union is really good. But what about the President is it that the banter is so thin?
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            1. Irokez
              Irokez 2 November 2018 19: 18
              -1
              Quote: NordUral
              Someone cleverly manipulates us, however.

              Higher power. And you are so naive that you have no idea about the higher ones. It is time to get out of the shadow of materialism. After all, this is a new century, and you all live in the old according to the idea of ​​the world. )))
              1. NordUral
                NordUral 2 November 2018 19: 44
                +9
                New? And what's new in it? Is this capitalism, with its initial accumulation of capital, is it the feudal manners of the nouveau riche? Are these churchmen so passionately “caring” about their flock, disinterested unmercenaries (this does not apply to real priests - they sincerely believe)? And what is wrong with materialism, which asserts that one must live correctly in this life, that one must rely only on one's brains and hands, and not rely on the forgiveness of the Father and on the kingdom of God. I am an atheist, but not militant. Every person has the right to choose, so long as his right to believe or not to believe does not violate the rights of others.
                1. Irokez
                  Irokez 2 November 2018 20: 35
                  +4
                  Quote: NordUral
                  Every person has the right to choose, if only his right to faith or unbelief does not violate the rights of others.

                  Great words. You are a spiritual materialist going through life with the right attitudes. Religion is needed in order to put a person on the right path if he is far from him, as well as give the basics of the correct and spiritual, but then each goes his own way guided by justice and conscience. It is impossible to go in cycles.
                  The father loves us because we are at the same time, why forgive those who he needs, he prompts, teaches and protects them (the child is taught, instructed, protected and loved). You just need to listen more often to feelings, emotions, heart, and in conscience and justice to live doing what is good from the heart and in joy for the benefit of all. And here, in the eyes of others, you will become a God for people in a simple Earthly understanding and, together with other Gods, will pull the others along so that they become Gods and the Golden Age of the Gods will come.
                  Believe it is real, you just need to live in fairness and conscience for the benefit of others, even if they do not reciprocate, but after a while they will still realize that they were not grateful or wrong.
                  But this is not all that can be, there are such egoists who even the Gods cannot break through with their own example, and there is only one thing left to teach them quietly and slowly, so that through the arms, legs and losses of their excessively acquired money, a sprout of understanding in them how to live should spill in their brain.
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 3 November 2018 17: 56
                    +1
                    Quote: Irokez
                    Religion is needed to put a person on the right path if he is far from him

                    ------------------------
                    Moral attitudes can be laid without religion. Religion can indicate your belonging to a particular type of civilization.
                    1. Killemall
                      Killemall 4 November 2018 09: 51
                      +2
                      Unfortunately, one cannot live without religion. The commandments given to mankind are absolutely basic things that underlie morality and form human behavioral stereotypes. They are designed to draw the line between GOOD and EVIL. So, since morality is an ABSOLUTE category, a certain ABSOLUTE (absolutely pure and immaculate creature) should give it to people, i.e. - GOD! And, unfortunately, it will not work any other way. There was one attempt in the history of mankind to form morality without defining its divine principle. Many on the forum remember the ever-memorable "code of the builder of communism." And we all know that both this code and this state did not last long. And why? Because those who gave these "new commandments" to people did not have absolute authority - they were not ABSOLUTES. And in conclusion I would also like to say that 100 years have passed since the start of a social experiment called "The Great October Socialist Revolution", designed to destroy religion as a factor in the formation of morality in people, and they still turn to the Commandments to determine the boundaries of good from evil. And neither the state, nor parents, nor teachers and educators will be able to fulfill this task!
                2. sharp-lad
                  sharp-lad 3 November 2018 00: 45
                  0
                  It’s time for the editors to take care of the opportunity to put megaplus! One from me and take off hi.
                3. Altona
                  Altona 3 November 2018 17: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: NordUral
                  Every person has the right to choose, if only his right to faith or unbelief does not violate the rights of others.

                  ------------------------------
                  This is called "freedom of conscience."
        3. lev1759
          lev1759 2 November 2018 18: 42
          +1
          At the same time, several more people vote. The comp calculates the results of all those who voted ...
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 2 November 2018 18: 44
            +8
            The namesake, comes tight, sometimes. The only strange thing is that there are so many minuses at once, the thought was sensible.
      2. alexnmv5
        alexnmv5 2 November 2018 18: 22
        +2
        Are you a masochist? Ask yourself the ignoramus, why did the Iraqis, having full supply from the Americans, abandoned the Abrams and bought 72 tons? And where did you read that someone refuses the armata. Everything has its time. Today is the time of glory for t 90.
        1. Brylevsky
          Brylevsky 2 November 2018 18: 35
          +8
          Are you a masochist?

          No.
          It's just that I'm against this "puppy delight":
          The best tanks, the best president!
          Russia is the best!

          As for everything else in your post ... Let's not escalate. Just remember the infamous 131st motorized rifle brigade, the fate that befell its tanks. This is for you in order to return to reality ... I, of course, understand: hitting the dynamic protection element on the frontal armor without breaking it by TOW is a weighty argument, but the missile can hit not only the protection specially designed for this .. . the use of "Vampire" against the T-72 is a striking (in every sense of the word) example of this. Now I mean the famous videos on "You tube".
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 3 November 2018 06: 28
            +2
            Firstly, not just a motorized rifle brigade, but a combined motorized rifle brigade, and this is a huge difference! And secondly, with such an organization of defense that I was at the station, although it was impossible to organize it intelligently, it was possible to pick out all the tanks and screwdrivers, not to mention RPGs ! Savin fulfilled his duty to the end, and his personnel too, so it’s not his fault that the generals are dumb and the tanks have nothing to do with it! Bad example!
      3. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 2 November 2018 18: 26
        0
        ))) Yes, the tank was good. They don’t say, they know. Refuse, according to the situation. Just do not, they stole everything. Even oil is not a bottomless barrel. No matter how we handle
      4. skrabplus.ru
        skrabplus.ru 2 November 2018 19: 03
        0
        "If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right."
        Therefore, he voted for GDP in the elections before last
  2. Yujanin
    Yujanin 2 November 2018 16: 58
    +4
    The T-90 demonstrates "real miracles of survivability" and can fight in almost any conditions.

    All right! The thesis was tested experimentally in the April battles.
  3. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 2 November 2018 17: 01
    +6
    well, now trump against them will impose sanctions for anti-american advertising of foreign military equipment lol and Teresa May will say that it was the T90, following the transit past the Landon, who brought the `` newcomer '' to England, hiding it in the barrel of a tank gun. wassat
    1. Yasir
      Yasir 2 November 2018 17: 35
      +6
      Quote: ANCIENT
      well, now trump against them will impose sanctions for anti-american advertising

      No Vitalievich, this is a custom-made article to frighten the western inhabitants ... The tank is not bad, but we have few of them!
      Now, if the tank fist would be, as in the time of the USSR on the western and eastern directions .. Well then, maybe it would accept this praise! soldier Our Army is now, as at the beginning of the 41st .. There is development, but there are not enough capacities, or rather powers to concentrate the state’s resources in the right direction ..
      I read recently that the cost of all the yachts of "our" oligarchs is several times higher than the cost of our entire Navy .. It's creepy! soldier
      1. ANCIENT
        ANCIENT 2 November 2018 17: 39
        +5
        Comrade Arafat hi -partially, this is a statement of the fact that the Soviet arms school is the best on the planet. good drinks
        1. Yasir
          Yasir 2 November 2018 18: 00
          +2
          Quote: ANCIENT
          Comrade Arafat hi -partially, this is a statement of the fact that the Soviet arms school is the best on the planet. good drinks

          Yes sir ! soldier
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 2 November 2018 18: 07
        0
        This is criminal!
  4. nafanal
    nafanal 2 November 2018 17: 06
    0
    And we had no doubt ...
  5. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 2 November 2018 17: 07
    +2
    Checked back in world 2.
    1. mejik
      mejik 4 November 2018 13: 04
      0
      not in 2 world, but in the Great Patriotic.
  6. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 2 November 2018 17: 08
    +3
    This interest with some sort of reduced responsibility. Seven Fridays a week, in the opinion of a complete pi ... ugh ... pluralism.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 2 November 2018 17: 43
      +5
      Victor, you do not understand. The topic of the NI article depends on what foot the NI editor-in-chief got up in the morning.
  7. megafair
    megafair 2 November 2018 17: 10
    +7
    Now TNI order defense enterprises - to knock out additional funding from the US Congress - will work, and again our tanks will begin to be called obsolete, a relic of the USSR, etc ....
    But the Gay Europeans and 3.14ndos are afraid to come to the tank biathlon;) The Chinese are men, bring their Taip, even the caterpillar slopes were flying off at the track for the first time, but nothing was finished with a file - now they roll back normally;)
  8. NEXUS
    NEXUS 2 November 2018 17: 11
    +5
    In conclusion, the authors of the material write that they are forced to admit that only Russia manages to create tanks that in some incomprehensible way work flawlessly in any conditions. The Russian engineers do not know how this is possible in the publication, but they admit that fact is a fact - Russian tanks are the most tenacious tanks in the world.

    Wow ... Russian trains, the most train trains in the world. As for the T-90, it was created as a station wagon, capable of working even in the Arctic, even in the Gobi desert, unlike Abrash and Leopolds.
  9. kplayer
    kplayer 2 November 2018 17: 13
    +4
    I love our tanks for their low silhouette and survivability! Separate respect for KDZ "Contact V" and "Relikt", there is time to bring KAZ to perfection.
  10. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 2 November 2018 17: 15
    +5
    Su-27..MiG-Z1 ... T-72..T-90 .. This is all the Soviet Union ... !!!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 2 November 2018 17: 20
      +6
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      Su-27..MiG-Z1 ... T-72..T-90 .. This is all the Soviet Union ... !!!

      SU-57, SU-35, T-14, Burevesnik, PFoseidon and even Peresvet is also the Soviet Union, dear.
      1. plotnikov561956
        plotnikov561956 2 November 2018 17: 28
        +3
        It’s easier to call ..or not to say that it’s not from the Union
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 2 November 2018 18: 10
        +12
        Yes, everything is from there, Andrey! And thanks to Stalin and those whom he raised - this is where everything comes from!
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 2 November 2018 17: 21
      +3
      We are also from the Soviet Union hi ... True, and Svidomo are not brothers with Waltzman at the head, too, and the Georgians with Mishiko Saakashvili ... belay
    3. svp67
      svp67 2 November 2018 17: 39
      +5
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      Su-27..MiG-Z1 ... T-72..T-90 .. This is all the Soviet Union ... !!!

      "Nagan," maxim "," mosinka "- the Russian Empire, but this did not prevent them from serving the USSR in the Second World War.
      And at the expense of the "invulnerable" T-90, that's all for now, unfortunately. Is there any verified information about his "meetings" with "javelins", "spikes" and other similar ATGMs? Not yet. While the T-90 resisted and quite successfully, the previous generation ATGM
      1. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 2 November 2018 23: 46
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        Is there any verified information about his "meetings" with "javelins", "spikes" and other similar ATGMs? Not yet.

        In Iraq and Yemen, the Abrams burn without javelins and spikes. hi
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 November 2018 10: 14
          +1
          Quote: Sergei Medvedev
          Abrams burn in Iraq and Yemen without javelins and spikes

          So there Soviet tanks burn as well, even the T-80BV destroyed destroyed light up and so what?
          1. Sergey Medvedev
            Sergey Medvedev 9 November 2018 19: 13
            0
            Quote: svp67
            So there Soviet tanks burn as well, even the T-80BV destroyed destroyed light up and so what?

            Yes, the fact that all the tanks are burning. And invulnerable equipment will never be. Do you disagree?
      2. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 3 November 2018 00: 51
        0
        I hope that something will stick to the roof of the tower and the engine compartment.
        1. svp67
          svp67 3 November 2018 10: 16
          +1
          Quote: sharp-lad
          I hope that something will stick to the roof of the tower and the engine compartment.

          I am afraid that this alone cannot be solved, new solutions are needed. Modern complexes REP and KAZ.
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 4 November 2018 02: 03
            +1
            I thought about that. hi
  11. arhPavel
    arhPavel 2 November 2018 17: 16
    +5
    Russia manages to create tanks that in some incomprehensible way work flawlessly in any conditions.


    Translation:

    We need money in order to develop a super stealth tank.
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 2 November 2018 17: 39
      +8
      Quote: arhPavel
      Translation:

      We need money in order to develop a super stealth tank.

      Between the lines:
      As soon as the publics begin to publicly (in the media) praise something of ours, there is a suspicion that something is wrong with the objects of praise ... No.
      In this case, perhaps the PSs are starting to form the opinion that the T-90 is already the best. No need to splurge on the T-14, etc.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 2 November 2018 18: 21
        +2
        . In this case, perhaps the PSs are starting to form the opinion that the T-90 is already the best. No need to splurge on the T-14, etc.

        Them were bought by the Kremlin wassat
  12. vindigo
    vindigo 2 November 2018 17: 19
    +3
    Rather, it is the best production tank that the Russian industry was able to do.
  13. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 2 November 2018 17: 21
    +7
    The tank is not bad, why all this PR, what a super-duper? Again, trading inclinations are manifested. A lot of them have been delivered abroad. Moreover, without regard to the buyer's country. And so, problems can arise directly for the Russian Federation. In general, anti-tank weapons will also develop rapidly .... The T-34 is considered the best for its time, but they also burned well. So there is less bragging
  14. Brylevsky
    Brylevsky 2 November 2018 17: 24
    +7
    That's it, now we will see "Armata" only at parades on Red Square ...
  15. megafair
    megafair 2 November 2018 17: 26
    +18
    Quote: plotnikov561956
    Su-27..MiG-Z1 ... T-72..T-90 .. This is all the Soviet Union

    So what? The Russian Empire became the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union became the Russian Federation - what, the achievements of Lomonosov, Mendeleev, Pirogov, Popov, Korolev, Kurchatov, Alferov, etc. - will we divide everything by eras? This is all the Russians did, this is all ours - dear, this is my Motherland !!! And when, in 20-30 years, our descendants will be proud of the systems "Petrel", "Peresvet", "Poseidon", "Prometheus", etc. - what do you think is bad?
    Proud of the fact that you took your first steps before you were a year old, you started talking until you were one and a half years old, and reading in three and a half — although you are 65 now — doesn’t mean to appropriate other people's merits — it means to have a strong memory and honor your past !!!
    1. Alexey Novikov
      Alexey Novikov 2 November 2018 17: 55
      -1
      The traditional rhetoric of Russophobes mimicking the patriots. Previously, they at least honestly said that they considered the achievements of Russia to be bullshit, and now they started to work more subtle, they say, all the achievements of Russia are actually the achievements of the USSR, and Russia did nothing. Convenient tactics - it’s kind of like Russophobe that you don’t fall for, but it’s kind of like you kick this country too. Therefore, all these conversations about the USSR must be stopped immediately.
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 2 November 2018 18: 15
        +4
        Alexei, how stern you are, however, to those who honestly indicate where the legs of the present technique grow from!
        And suppress better your own language, and not the memory of the achievements of the Union. And about Russophobia - power and people are not the same thing.
        1. Zaits
          Zaits 2 November 2018 21: 17
          +3
          Let's be objective. The level of technical development in a particular place and at a specific time is the result of the work of many generations that have maintained continuity, multiplied and learned from many others.
          Instead of tallying one and the same thing, you would better at least somehow indicate your respect for those dinosaurs that not only survived despite everything in the 90s, but also maintained continuity, and increased, and brought in a completely new and your own.
          Thus, no one could even dream of many electronic equipment developed at present in Russia, either in the USSR or in the USA. Just because the speed of development of electronics has so far outstripped even the most violent fantasies.
          Well, to say where it grows from is simply stupid. If you follow this logic, you get a multi-segmented freak. At the same time, the limbs of this freak will either grow or grow.
          So, for the most part, we studied electronics all the time from the states. Should I remind you of the state of the electronic industry in the USSR? Apart from the individual segments advanced by people like Alferov, everything was very sad.
          But in terms of mathematics and programming, the states were fed first from the USSR, and then from Russia. Etc.

          In short, respect your homeland, comrade.
    2. helmi8
      helmi8 2 November 2018 19: 11
      +2
      Quote: megafair
      The Russian Empire became the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union became the Russian Federation - that, the achievements of Lomonosov, Mendeleev, Pirogov, Popov, Korolev, Kurchatov, Alferov, etc. - will we all divide by epochs? This was all done by the Russians, this is all ours - native, this is my homeland !!!

      Wow ... That's right. And how many more talented Russian engineers emigrated after 1917?
      As a banter ... - Maybe from felons for Sikorsky ask? And it could be that helicopters would be bought from us now ... laughing
      1. megafair
        megafair 2 November 2018 19: 13
        +2
        Quote: helmi8
        Maybe from felons for Sikorsky ask?

        Miles with Kamov have already been asked from them;)
  16. bogart047
    bogart047 2 November 2018 17: 38
    -1
    These are just roads not to repair ...
  17. mmk
    mmk 2 November 2018 17: 41
    +1
    The foreign tank building school focused on crew comfort, but they didn’t think about the survivability of the vehicle itself.
  18. nekromonger
    nekromonger 2 November 2018 17: 45
    +1
    The most important thing is how to use tanks in military operations, before the war, our tanks were two orders of magnitude better than the German ones, but they were often used thoughtlessly.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 2 November 2018 18: 16
      +4
      More precisely, they were not used in the early days of the war. The army is not mobilized. Output. Warehouses are closed. Cisterns are empty
  19. mmk
    mmk 2 November 2018 17: 53
    +1
    The same is with the automotive industry, of course, not all of their cars are guano in terms of cross-country ability, but most serial ones are designed for comfort and are designed for asphalt and nothing more. Take, for example, Niva or the same "bobby", ziper, 406th Muscovite, penny, etc. I have ridden so many kilometers on these animals on the road, but they don't care.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 2 November 2018 18: 14
      +1
      Zaporozhets 30hp out of competition in the sands wassat
      The truth is warming
      1. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 3 November 2018 00: 59
        +1
        Once, in a forest in a dawn, they sat down in the middle of a puddle, it’s good that they were four of us, the rear end was rearranged, and then we rolled.
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 3 November 2018 01: 08
          +1
          We four Muscovite toppled over on our side. And when they passed the exam, they raised it in a group and took it away. The examiner was very angry. Could not find
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 3 November 2018 01: 17
            +1
            When I was in the hospital, a father came to one soldier in a Lada, so we, with a small sabotage group for six, dug this Lada for the rear bumper and pulled its wings like a wheelbarrow for the nearest corner! When the man returned ..... I had to urgently run to him, save from a heart attack. smile
  20. Andrea
    Andrea 2 November 2018 17: 59
    +1
    And with the help of a sledgehammer and some kind of mother. lol In the West this is not to be found.
  21. Jerk
    Jerk 2 November 2018 18: 05
    -1
    Yes, everything is simple - a tank is not a limousine, reliability is above comfort. And you all the upgrades are to put on the tank outhouse and solitaire kerchief. For 100500 million evergreen rubles.
    Tripods, remember, it’s good for you - you can only chat, and so sit in your Penguin and PR paste your brains for each other, you’re not able to do anything else
  22. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 2 November 2018 18: 11
    0
    The theory is when everyone knows that the device should work, but it does not work. Practice - it works, but no one knows why wassat
    We weren’t congratulated on Friday. It's a shame drinks
  23. Yasir
    Yasir 2 November 2018 18: 16
    0
    Here, in this article, I again provoke us to war, this is definitely ..
    Russia is still weak, but there are modern weapons, but very few ..
    They surrounded us again, as in the 41st and shouting ata Russian ..
    Well, nothing, break through this time

    Russians have a lot of spiritual resources ..! soldier
    1. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 3 November 2018 16: 24
      0
      Not so much to scatter! All of these contractors are good, but where's the nationwide NWP! In the Syrian army fight some contract soldiers or what? The military spirit has been forged and honed for decades! From generation to generation! That the GDP is not rushing into this topic ?!
  24. tank64rus
    tank64rus 2 November 2018 18: 24
    0
    They take and do, not everyone in Russia steals, but if they had not been disturbed it would have been even better.
  25. Allexxx
    Allexxx 2 November 2018 19: 39
    0
    The components of success remain unchanged:
    1. Manufacturability and low cost in the creation.
    2. Mass production.
    3. Women still give birth.
  26. edmed
    edmed 2 November 2018 19: 46
    +2
    Quote: Alexey Novikov
    The traditional rhetoric of Russophobes mimicking the patriots. Previously, they at least honestly said that they considered the achievements of Russia to be bullshit, and now they started to work more subtle, they say, all the achievements of Russia are actually the achievements of the USSR, and Russia did nothing. Therefore, all these conversations about the USSR must be stopped immediately.

    A dwarf standing on the shoulders of a defeated titan, feeding on past reserves, which are coming to an end, but for new "there is no money, but you hold on" as long as he can, the main thing is that troubadours with minstrels do not hoarse to sing an assana, but those who doubt on the block, So?
  27. BAI
    BAI 2 November 2018 20: 22
    +1
    Russian T-90 tanks are "the most dangerous in the world."

    We urgently need money to modernize old and develop new tanks. That would be immediately said.
  28. zloijjet
    zloijjet 2 November 2018 22: 20
    0
    The tank is very successful and very successful ... Keep it up ... !!!
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    1. av58
      av58 3 November 2018 00: 07
      0
      I somehow missed: where did Merkava fight, and against which tanks?
      1. Dr.KonradMorgen
        Dr.KonradMorgen 3 November 2018 00: 20
        -2
        In Lebanon. Against the T-72 CAA.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 3 November 2018 01: 04
          +4
          Merkava and T-72 did not happen to meet in Lebanon in 1982. 10-15 Merkava-1, those lost in Lebanon were shot down by ATGMs and T-62 guns. Approximately 10-12 T-72s, shot down in Lebanon, were burned from anti-tank guards in one battle, one from the Centurion tank.
          All tank-against-tank battles in Lebanon were: Centurions, M-48, M-60 vs. T-62, T-54, T-55
  30. av58
    av58 3 November 2018 00: 06
    -1
    As a rule, such "confessions" are followed by a request to the US Congress to increase military spending to close the gap with Russia. smile
  31. earloop
    earloop 3 November 2018 00: 13
    -1
    "... only Russia manages to create tanks that in some incomprehensible way work flawlessly in any conditions." - Once again it is confirmed that "Russia cannot be understood with the mind"! "Mother" is always ready to provide effective assistance in any situation. And it helps!
  32. klm-57
    klm-57 3 November 2018 09: 36
    0
    They previously claimed that this is the worst of modern tanks :)
  33. Kapkan
    Kapkan 3 November 2018 10: 17
    +2
    Well, one of the reasons for such survivability is our engines, Chelyabinsk ... We’ll collect the x-shaped ones ... and the artificial intelligence system for the entire platform ...;)
  34. AlexYa
    AlexYa 3 November 2018 11: 22
    0
    Because the Soviet pre-war diesel V-2, so far no one has been able to repeat.
  35. Tanker21
    Tanker21 3 November 2018 12: 16
    +1
    And our tanks are beautiful from an aesthetic point of view. Elegant profile, rollers, hatches. The hatch of the gunner-operator in its form and material is something. It's a pleasure to close it. And when you watch a column of tanks overcome obstacles, the eye rejoices at this drawing.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 4 November 2018 00: 49
      +2
      And also the driver’s hatch - a weakened place - is located strictly in the middle of the inclined upper frontal plate. And the height of the tank is exactly in the middle. It is in this place that everyone is aiming.
      But beautiful from an aesthetic point of view negative
      Only in Armata, finally, the hatch was removed from the center.
      1. Tanker21
        Tanker21 4 November 2018 00: 51
        +1
        Of course, the driver’s hatch was not so impressive, because I had to close and open it during the service many times.
  36. ggl1
    ggl1 3 November 2018 12: 47
    -5
    Because Russian smart people
    and the Anglo-Saxons are a degrading nation
    as they say "a collection of thieves and a gang of beggars" especially
    USA
  37. igorra
    igorra 3 November 2018 15: 16
    0
    Why is it absolutely not surprising.
  38. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 3 November 2018 23: 01
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: plotnikov561956
    Su-27..MiG-Z1 ... T-72..T-90 .. This is all the Soviet Union ... !!!

    SU-57, SU-35, T-14, Burevesnik, PFoseidon and even Peresvet is also the Soviet Union, dear.

    "Long live the great mighty Soviet Union created by the will of the people!"
    1. Likant
      Likant 4 November 2018 00: 47
      0
      The T-14 is not like a Soviet development. There seemed to be an idea, but it didn’t come to the drawings ... I really read about it for a long time and don’t remember exactly, but "Armata" was already designed in Russia!
  39. Likant
    Likant 4 November 2018 00: 43
    0
    Yes, despite the single release of the "Armat" T-90 is really an excellent MBT of Russia, the last "gift", as I read, from the developments of the USSR! Further - with your mind! The grandfathers gave us everything they could and a deep bow to them for it! "Armata" is already a direct Russian brainchild!
  40. shinobi
    shinobi 4 November 2018 05: 34
    0
    Oh, how! And the men don’t even know! No, of course it was great to shoot the T-72 of the first release, especially with full dominance in the air. And here is a completely different scenario.
  41. Horse, people and soul
    Horse, people and soul 4 November 2018 13: 59
    0
    Abrams ... Leopards ... T-90 ... Armata ...

    The main part in the tank is between the seat and the triplex.