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Order in the LDNR will bring Russia

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The comprehensive inspection was triggered by the events of last summer: a sharp rise in prices for fuel and lubricants (prices were set even higher than Russian), then crop failures, which self-absorbed after shouting from above.


Apparently, after the murder of A. Zakharchenko, the patience of the “curators” was exhausted: the complex clearing of the power vertical began. For some reason, it immediately became clear that in the DPR the process of cleansing local elites could hardly be as smooth and quick as in the neighboring republic. As a result, the process, which occupied a little more than a week in Luhansk, has been going on for the third month in Donetsk.

Order in the LDNR will bring Russia


The essence of what is happening 1 November is capaciously stated at the meeting of the Council of Ministers of the DPR new and. about. Chairman of the Council of Ministers Alexander Ananchenko, who informed the ministers (among whom there are also a lot of new faces) that “if fundamental changes for the better are not achieved in the year of their work, then the question of the government’s resignation” will be considered.

The mysterious Alexander Ananchenko, about which it is known only that he previously held the post of adviser in the Vneshtorgservice company (there is not even a normal photograph of Ananchenko, except for the back of the head taken from afar), is definitely connected, if not with the “curators”, then with “BTC”, under the control of which all industrial assets have now passed (that is, also with the Russians). In any case, this candidacy has nothing to do with the local elites and, judging by the wide powers and sharp statements, was pressed from above.

As well as the candidacy of the anointed king Denis Pushilin, who had recently played a significant role in the highest echelon of the republic. Against the background of the obvious (and even somewhat rude) support from the “curators”, the temporary acting director Pushilin actively opposes his predecessors, with whom he had been in complete consensus six months ago.

Pushilin promises people much of what the authorities headed by Zakharchenko have failed to do - open a branch of a Russian bank in the republic, abolish customs between the LC and the DPR, reduce fuel prices and food, and even increase salaries and pensions. In parallel, actions are being taken to eliminate the influence of the surviving members of the entourage of Alexander Zakharchenko. The Republican Guard and various armed formations (including the Prilepin battalion), previously subordinated to Zakharchenko and his staff, were transferred to the subordination of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Corps, and the VTS finally oust the Ukrainian oligarchs from the republic, who retained ties with the industrial enterprises that they previously owned, and t dd

It is noteworthy that some of the promises are already becoming reality. On November 1, gas stations in the DPR and LPR lowered the cost of diesel fuel by 7 rubles, 92 gasoline by 6 rubles and 95 gasoline by 4 rubles. Prices are now at the level of Russian. Also, there was information about the increase in public sector wages in November by 20%.

It is clear that all these large-scale shifts and improvements are beyond the power of Pushilin, who, unlike Alexander Zakharchenko, does not have a power or authority resource. To ensure the fulfillment of promises, as well as the post of the head and relatively safe stay on it, can only the so-called curators. Which, judging by recent events, granted the “title” to Denis Pushilin for lack of a more suitable candidate and on the terms of total external management and strict control.

In principle, if Pushilin has to play the role of a wedding general, his candidacy can be considered quite satisfactory, especially since recent friends and colleagues expelled from power will provide additional motivation to comply with the agreements with curators. To be honest, but rudely, for Russia and for the republics there is no difference who exactly will shine on television screens - if only this person adheres to the established framework and does not harm. In principle, exactly the same way, in 2014, they pushed the candidacy of Alexander Zakharchenko, who at the time of the election did not have enough authority or fame to win. It is not clear why the situation in the republic was subsequently taken by chance.

With great delay, but before the people involved in the interaction with LDNR, it finally reached the point that one could form one’s own elites in Novorossia only under conditions of total control and ferocious audit. Otherwise, whatever funds are spent on ensuring social security and restoring the economy, they will all go into someone's wide pockets or be wasted. Russia faced a similar situation in the Crimea: 25 years under Ukraine led to the disappearance of managers as a class, corrupted officials and civil servants, taught businessmen to shady schemes and corruption. All this, of course, is also present in the Russian Federation, but far from such a sad scale.

Let's hope that all these good signs will not be lost in vain.
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  1. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 3 November 2018 05: 38
    +7
    You know. In my opinion, it is more appropriate to finally decide the legal and legal status of the republic in terms of whether it will become part of Russia. And solve this issue of self-determination in a referendum. And after the solution of this issue to engage in the formation of the elite. Otherwise, Russia will always be exposed as an aggressor. If Novorossia, following the results of the referendum, becomes part of Russia, then all questions will be removed by themselves. As for the opinions of all sorts of different, look what is dearer to you: the peaceful life of the Russian people or the sanctions, in which we are already "like a litter of royms" ...
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 3 November 2018 06: 56
      +8
      Well, in this form, it probably will not officially enter. And what's the point of holding a referendum? What result do you want to get and who will be interested in it?
      Well, the aggressor will therefore represent us. Not this, they’ll come up with another reason. This is called dehumanization and it will continue regardless of our actions in Ukraine.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 3 November 2018 07: 01
      -1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      . If Novorossia, as a result of the referendum, becomes part of Russia, then all issues will be removed on their own

      Crimea, according to the results of the referendum, became part of the Russian Federation. and what, have we ceased to be "aggressors"?
      and why do they need us?
      in my opinion the best option, independent republics. like South Ossetia and Abkhazia
    3. oracul
      oracul 3 November 2018 08: 06
      +3
      The questions themselves are never removed, since it takes time, money, resources and personnel to resolve any issue.
    4. Boris55
      Boris55 3 November 2018 08: 25
      +1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      If Novorossia joins Russia as a result of the referendum

      Before you enter somewhere, you need to exit somewhere.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 3 November 2018 09: 29
        +1
        Quote: Boris55
        Before you enter somewhere, you must exit from somewhere


        What a deep thought. smile wassat

        Boris hi
    5. Detective
      Detective 3 November 2018 09: 43
      0
      Officially, the appearance in the DPR of "Moscow auditors" from the Control Department of the Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Economy and others, there are no OTHER departments in itself is not the most important thing. They will certainly figure out what is needed. The very fact of such a check unambiguously and very eloquently suggests that Russia considers Donbass as an integrated territory!
  2. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 3 November 2018 07: 42
    +3
    everyone who wants to normalize relations with the Kiev regime in the first place needs to be removed from power there.
  3. Boris55
    Boris55 3 November 2018 07: 52
    +2
    The zombie man does his job ... I'll try again to fight him. We all heard that a referendum took place in LDNR in the 14 year, but do everyone remember what issue was put to the vote? Let me remind you:



    It was a question of state independence - not independence, but independence. During the 4 years, they never became independent, we still send humanitarian convoys there. In addition, they did not raise the issue of secession from Ukraine i.e. The people of LDNR voted for independence within Ukraine.

    So what is our fifth column pushing us to usurp all the media and constantly brainwash us with our fantasies that they are waiting for us there with open arms?

    That we would start a war. As soon as we occupy part of Ukraine (LDNR did not leave Ukraine), then responsibility for everything that happens there will immediately fall on us. Bandera’s people will have the iron argument of blowing up houses, trains, buses and carrying out other sabotage work throughout Russia. Given the fact that we have a huge number of citizens from Ukraine and if at least 1% of them become saboteurs, this will be a great grief for all of us. The troops entered the territory of the LNR during the day will be met with flowers, and at night shoot in the back. Do we need coffins with our guys from there?
    Not to mention the public opinion and prestige of our country in the international arena, which we have restored so hard. This is only a small part of what awaits us. In general, do not flattery where we are not asked.

    ps
    I heard about Pushilin that he works for Turchinov. If so, then we have nothing more to do there.
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 3 November 2018 08: 29
      +4
      Quote: Boris55
      We all heard that a referendum was held in LDNR in the 14th year, but do we all remember what issue was put to the vote? Let me remind you:

      And I will remind!
      .. at the expense of the referendum, so it was carried out as it was necessary according to the procedure. Is it really difficult to understand that recognizing the independent Republics of the DPR and LPR is one thing, and trying to recognize the Lugansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine is absurd, if not complete idiocy!
      Reply


      Quote: Boris55
      ps
      I heard about Pushilin that he works for Turchinov. If so, then we have nothing more to do there.

      Are you respected yourself who you work for? Or have you not yet quit the child's game of "spoiled phone"?
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 3 November 2018 08: 32
        0
        Quote: Chichikov
        to acknowledge independent Republics of the DPR and LPR, this is one thing, and trying to recognize the Lugansk and Donetsk region of Ukraine is absurd

        Have I written at least one letter about the regions? What did you want to say?

        ps
        The referendum was about independence. There was no referendum on independence.
        1. Chichikov
          Chichikov 3 November 2018 08: 37
          +1
          In order to understand the difference, the legal recognition of independent republics and the recognition of two regions of Ukraine, a lot of intelligence is not needed. But, apparently, the point is not in trying to understand this, but in another ...!
          And in order to understand what I wanted to say, raise your eyes and read the first answer, to your "arguments and rumors."
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 3 November 2018 08: 40
            +1
            Quote: Chichikov
            recognition of independent republics, as opposed to recognition of two regions of Ukraine

            You could not recall a referendum on independence was carried out throughout the Lugansk and Donetsk regions? And why are you talking about independence? Is the question of independence raised somewhere? If so, please remind.
            1. Chichikov
              Chichikov 3 November 2018 08: 54
              +1
              For your information, on May 25, 2014, in Crimea, a referendum was submitted not about "independence", but about "state independence"! This order gives the right to an independent foreign and domestic policy of the region.
              For your information, here is an excerpt from the invitation sheets ...
              On May 11, the only, but the most important question of our recent history will be put to a referendum: “Do you support the act of state independence of the Donetsk People’s Republic? - Yes or no". If you check the box “NO”, you thereby decide for yourself to remain part of the current fascist Ukraine, and also acknowledge and share all the atrocities of the Kiev junta. If you check the box "YES", then you, with your vote, confirm the independence of the Donetsk People's Republic.
              When we all, the people of Donbass, approve the act of state independence of the Donetsk People’s Republic by universal suffrage, we can begin to form our new government and determine the structure of our national economy. We will be able to leave all the money we earn in our republic, and not feed the Kiev junta and its minions. We will act in the international arena as a fully-fledged independent state with our own army. We will never again be subordinate to Kiev officials and oligarchs!
              This is precisely the procedure for international recognition of the independence of regions.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 3 November 2018 08: 59
                0
                Quote: Chichikov
                For your information, on May 25, 2014, in Crimea, a referendum was submitted not about "independence", but about "state independence"!

                What are you saying? How to prove it? laughing



                1. Chichikov
                  Chichikov 3 November 2018 09: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Boris55
                  What are you saying?

                  The issue of the referendum was decided at the end of February. Its holding was scheduled for May 25, and it was on this agenda. In connection with the rapid, unconstitutional development of events in Kiev, the question was postponed to March 14 (postponed several times), with the agenda that you cite.
                  He who hears, hears, he who sees, he will see!
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 3 November 2018 09: 23
                    0
                    Quote: Chichikov
                    He that heareth heareth, let him that sees!

                    Declaration on the independence of Crimea was adopted by the Supreme Council of Crimea! The referendum was on joining Russia !!! Learn the materiel. Till. hi
            2. Xenofont
              Xenofont 3 November 2018 10: 25
              0
              Do you ignore the word STATE independence? Strange reading!
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 3 November 2018 10: 40
                0
                Quote: Xenofont
                Do you ignore the word STATE independence?

                No. Read my very first post, right after the pictures with voting ballots: "It was about state independence ...".

                Question to you:
                24 republics that are part of Russia, have statehood? And 15 of the Soviet republics that are part of the USSR - had statehood?
          2. Boris55
            Boris55 3 November 2018 08: 54
            0
            Quote: Chichikov
            to your "arguments and rumors"

            I'm talking about rumors and write that they are rumors, not arguments.
            1. Chichikov
              Chichikov 3 November 2018 08: 56
              0
              Quote: Boris55
              I'm talking about rumors and write that they are rumors, not arguments.
              Rumors, carry it in your bazaar! Maybe people will not pay attention to you, but with us, for you, no one will intervene!
              1. Detective
                Detective 3 November 2018 11: 43
                +2
                Now it is very fashionable to compare the current situation in 2013-2014 in the Crimea and in the east of Ukraine, making a conclusion not in favor of the Russian government. As much as Boris wants to do this, including the case, this has nothing to do with reality for many reasons, including military and political, social and even national! It is very simple to be a strategist seeing the battle from the side. The situation in the regions was completely different. Let me remind you about the Crimea - all the years of the Ukrainian misunderstanding, it was completely special, not even about the Russian, but generally the completely Russian region! At the same time, I can argue that the Greeks and Armenians and Germans and Bulgarians were generally Russian in spirit and mood there ... For Ukraine, they were all insignificant and the fight against Ukrainization did not stop there for a minute! The Tatars who held the pro-Turkish pro-EU position were not pro-Ukrainian, but most of them also took a wait-and-see attitude during these years. In the Crimea there was a fairly powerful Russian military group, which certainly also played a role. And most importantly, in the Crimea against the Kiev putschists, both political elites and Crimeans came together in unity and precisely under Russian slogans. This did not happen in the East. There, local elites did not take advantage of the mass protest movement of the people. From part, the Donetsk oligarchs tried to do this in their own interests. The protests in the Southeast were not specified. The tasks were either federalization or simply gaining independence and secession from Ukraine. There was no general goal that was put forward, and each region acted independently on its own vision of the situation. The counter-elites of the putschists did not succeed in pushing themselves there. Just remember all these kernels ... It was a mistake of the protesters at the initial stage to resolve the issue by peaceful means. Going with flowers to armored vehicles in Ukraine is not an option. More justified was the transition to force methods initially! Honestly, I don’t want to pour salt on the wounds, although there is still much to say, including and the fact that the seeds of Ukrainization fell in the Southeast in more fertile soil than in the Crimea, and the Ukrainian factor there, although it was in the minority, was and unfortunately is! In short, there was no national leader, and those who were found in the regions constantly sorted out relations between themselves. Different goals were set. The Russian authorities could not ignore this, which probably also made erroneous decisions and could act more actively. But you can’t throw out the words, as they say, and you can’t fix anything right now with your back mind. I just want to say that even now the so-called Ukrainian government in exile (pro-Russian) does not set the goal of becoming part of Russia, and the creation is to recreate a right Ukraine. I think at this stage it may be progressive, but in the global perspective, Ukraine does not need Ukraine! As for LDNR, this is the beginning of New Russia and people there paved their way to Russia with their blood. De facto, this is already the case, I hope in de jure soon.
                1. BRDM2M
                  BRDM2M 3 November 2018 12: 23
                  +2
                  I remind you that when rallies began in the Southeast, people came out with Russian flags and they shouted to Russia, only with it they saw their future
                  1. Detective
                    Detective 3 November 2018 13: 10
                    -1
                    Quote: BRDM2M
                    I remind you that when rallies began in the Southeast, people came out with Russian flags and they shouted to Russia, only with it they saw their future

                    Did I refute this ?! You read carefully. I wrote the reasons for what played a negative role. And weren't such goals as federation and confederation put forward? You are simply passing off wishful thinking. Oleg Tsarev on April 13, 2014 from an interview with RIA Novosti: "We have decided that we are coordinating the actions in the southeast of all protests ... we are putting forward uniform political demands ... granting the Russian language the status of a second state, federalization of the country, liberation all people who are detained for separatism. " Demands were also put forward to terminate criminal cases against Berkut's employees. Another requirement for the Ukrainian authorities was to start a negotiation process with supporters of FEDERALIZATION in Slavyansk and stop hostilities!
                2. Boris55
                  Boris55 3 November 2018 13: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Detective
                  Now it’s very fashionable to compare ...

                  Thank you for your opinion. Indeed, comparing Crimea and LDNR is not entirely correct. In fact, Crimea was a kind of republic within Ukraine and it withdrew from Ukraine in accordance with all laws of Ukraine itself.

                  As for the decision-making by the Russian authorities, it is different for us. There is presidential power, which was against holding a referendum on the territory of Donetsk and Lugansk regions, and there is prime power, which organized a civil war in these territories. Unfortunately, Russia does not have sovereignty in full.
    2. BRDM2M
      BRDM2M 3 November 2018 12: 12
      -1
      And explain to me what kind of state independence can be in Ukraine? And stop nonsense to write that day and night they will meet differently! This bore was written
    3. Yegor Makhov
      4 November 2018 08: 16
      +1
      A few days before the referendum, the question of joining Russia was removed and replaced with a question of independence by order from above, from the Russian Federation. For the majority of the population, this was a surprise and, moreover, a lot of criticism was heard.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 4 November 2018 08: 57
        0
        Quote: Egor Makhov
        as indicated above, from the Russian Federation

        Putin asked not to hold a referendum (07.05.2014) Video 2: 36:

  4. oracul
    oracul 3 November 2018 08: 14
    +2
    I am glad that reflections are presented without hysteria and accusations. It would be naive to assume that a quarter of a century as a part of Ukraine will not give metastases, especially since it does not stop trying to return the LDNR. Elimination of metastases requires the precision and accuracy of the surgeon, followed by "chemotherapy". Haste is inadmissible here.
    1. beeper
      beeper 3 November 2018 09: 34
      +1
      hi But, comrade Orakul, there is no need for analogies with oncology and, known to all ordinary people, most often, the unhappy result of all these "treatments"! smile Itself from there, maybe that's why I have this comparison of yours, which probably seems to you such a "beautiful red word", evokes not at all optimistic associations!
      Since, if you "impose" on politics and develop the medical theme of "metastases" and the success (hurried and unhurried) treatment of cancer patients, it is possible (if from the position of an engaged banderobot) and completely in a sad direction to complete your "train of thought", but you, It seems to me that it was not about such a sad ending for the DPR that they wanted to say, so why do you yourself give such a vague "hook" for successful enemy counter-propaganda at the most primitive (intuitively understandable to any layman) level ?! winked
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 3 November 2018 08: 15
    +1
    Let's hope that all these good signs will not be lost in vain.
    ... I would like ... "The hopes of the young men are nourished, The elders are given joy", But still they are gradually melting.
  6. Conductor
    Conductor 3 November 2018 08: 27
    -4
    Here in Russia, that order is in no way brought up, but we are ready to restore it in another place. Let’s offer Zolotarev, he is also a great drummer of communist labor and a successful businessman. Go ahead.
    1. beeper
      beeper 3 November 2018 09: 40
      0
      hi Unreasonable "all-Russian dishonest" Conductor, you need to sit down and fold your paws, and not try to do anything ?! smile
  7. Alexander Ra
    Alexander Ra 3 November 2018 09: 09
    +1
    Russia as a whole has not yet been catching up with the Novorossiya project, its behavior towards this project is retrograde. Internal ripening has begun - time requires the activation of souls and minds of each and everyone. In the meantime, the vast majority - observers of how they quench the life of the renewal that has begun, are limited to irritation, sympathy, fear, “expression of thoughts”. Our people perish there, it is on our conscience, fed by humanism (“the religion of egoism”), comfort, tolerance. We are not ready to restore our order - the will is atrophied.
    1. Detective
      Detective 3 November 2018 16: 19
      -4
      Quote: Alexander Ra
      Our people perish there, it is on our conscience, fed by humanism (“the religion of egoism”), comfort, tolerance. We are not ready to restore our order - the will is atrophied.

      You can read something similar on liberal resources! Even almost word for word! Generally on the resources of the left orientation, and even on the youth. In countries with a large segment of the Russian-speaking population, whole colonies of trolls have been created that fill the Russian Internet with continuous negative attitude towards our country and the authorities. People are gradually instilled in the idea that we are no one and not how to call us! That we have a weak and oligarchic country and a thieving government! Their main goal is to involve youth and schoolchildren in political life on their side! A colossal threat to society is constituted by such 15-16-year-old revolutionaries who, without realizing anything, but having read such "truths", begin to sincerely hate the country and the authorities and are ready to devote all their time to spreading deliberate nastiness and lies, clogging up the brains of the same ignoramuses!
      So remember, we all need to know one thing to cope with which is no longer within our power: neither our multicolored fifth column, nor Ukraine, nor NATO, nor the EU, nor the Anglo-Saxons with all their American might! Crimea, Sevastopol, Donbass, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria are ours for ever! In Syria we will be as long as we see fit! Simply put, where the Russian flag is raised, it should no longer descend! The Russian world is a Russian civilization with a wonderful history and culture of more than a thousand years! Russia has taken up seriously the integration of a healthy part of the post-Soviet space. The reality of what is happening is only confirmed by the cries of horror and the fifth column and the left opposition and "impatient patriots." Just look at the materials of the 22nd World Russian People's Council. Speeches by His Holiness Patriarch Kirill and Russian President Putin on the civilizational development of Russia and the Russian people.
      1. Alexander Ra
        Alexander Ra 3 November 2018 19: 35
        +4
        ARNS created by the Russian Orthodox Church "from above." The goals are good, but it is remembered - “to lead and to pocher”. The proposal to the chairmen of the Federation Council and the State Duma to convene the Russian People's Assembly “from below” (Dremov, Brain) was rejected. It is possible to speak “about the civilizational development of Russia and the Russian people”, having robbed this people by privatization.
  8. Examenatornick
    Examenatornick 3 November 2018 09: 11
    0
    if even in Russia itself had put in order the domestic economy, it would also not be bad.
  9. Larum
    Larum 3 November 2018 14: 47
    0
    Shaw, again? So it was already, and the accusations of the "kakhaks", and the money for the government car, and the hryvnia for the trains with coal ...
  10. Technologist
    Technologist 3 November 2018 18: 39
    -1
    We can’t put things in order, but there too.
  11. Warrior Hamilton
    Warrior Hamilton 3 November 2018 19: 47
    +1
    In Russian television political programs, frank Bandera men prank daily on TV channels: the Tryukhans, the bald Slaviks, agents of influence like Zlobin, various freaks who call themselves Ukrainian political scientists. Of course, these programs were created to convey objectively-truthful information for the people ......... People from the LPR of the DPR are not invited to such programs
  12. Glennie
    Glennie 4 November 2018 08: 28
    -1
    Yeah, he’ll restore order again! Live on three pennies and don’t open your mouth!
  13. Naughty
    Naughty 6 November 2018 16: 40
    0
    Quote: ROSS 42
    You know. In my opinion, it is more appropriate to finally decide the legal and legal status of the republic in terms of whether it will become part of Russia. And solve this issue of self-determination in a referendum. And after the solution of this issue to engage in the formation of the elite. Otherwise, Russia will always be exposed as an aggressor. If Novorossia, following the results of the referendum, becomes part of Russia, then all questions will be removed by themselves. As for the opinions of all sorts of different, look what is dearer to you: the peaceful life of the Russian people or the sanctions, in which we are already "like a litter of royms" ...


    The question is whether Russia agrees to this entry? And what are we now in the Russian Federation for each such occasion will hold referenda? And when to work for a brighter future? Maybe just Ukraine to join LDNR? It seems so real to me. I think the GDP as I fade wink laughing