Military Review

They say gasoline has fallen in price ...

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After the conclusion of agreements between the Government of the Russian Federation and oil companies, there was a decrease in wholesale prices for motor fuel (gasoline and diesel fuel). It is stated that ultimately the fuel market will remain stable with any fluctuations in oil prices at least until the end of the year. The government said that they are monitoring in the retail direction the sale of gasoline and diesel fuel in order to apply regulatory mechanisms in a timely manner if individual companies decide to raise the price.




By the way, attempts of individual companies to inflate prices have already been recorded. During the week, the Federal Security Service even had to intervene. In particular, employees of the FSB department in Transbaikalia searched the PJSC Neftemarket. These events are related to the fact that the company, according to law enforcement officers, not only inflated prices for motor fuel, but also evaded paying taxes.

Returning to the deal between the government and the oil industry, it should be noted that the stock price drop on gasoline and diesel fuel took place. To 15: Thursday's 00, the price of AI-92 gasoline fell by 2,5%, reaching 48,2 thousand rubles per ton. Gasoline brand AI-95 decreased in price by 4,5% - to 51 thousand rubles per ton. The price of diesel fell about 3%.

At the same time, such an important detail as the fall in oil prices is somehow overlooked. Over the past few weeks, Brent crude has fallen in price by more than 10%. At the same time, the dollar did not rise, remaining at the level of 65-67 rubles per unit of American currency.

In this regard, the statements that the “cheaper” gasoline is a merit of the Russian government look rather strange. We can talk about merit if we only start from the well-known formula that gasoline in our country rises in price in three cases: when oil becomes more expensive, when oil becomes cheaper, and when the price of oil remains unchanged.

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  1. zyzx
    zyzx 2 November 2018 08: 48
    +9
    Let's heal now! Thanks to the party and government for their concern.
    1. Don
      Don 2 November 2018 08: 50
      +23
      At the wholesale market, it may have fallen in price, but at gas stations the price increase did not stop. Personally, I noticed that recently at the gas stations of Gazpromneft, AI-92 went up from 40,89 rubles to 41,40 rubles.
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      2. The black
        The black 2 November 2018 09: 00
        +8
        At the wholesale market, it may have fallen in price, but at gas stations the price increase did not stop. Personally, I noticed that recently at the gas stations of Gazpromneft, AI-92 went up from 40,89 rubles to 41,40 rubles.
        I agree. .... and you still have at least 41,40. We have no such prices for a long time sad .... Gazpromneft - 45,90, Lukoil - 46,20 sad
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 2 November 2018 09: 56
          +1
          Quote: Black
          At the wholesale market, it may have fallen in price, but at gas stations the price increase did not stop. Personally, I noticed that recently at the gas stations of Gazpromneft, AI-92 went up from 40,89 rubles to 41,40 rubles.
          I agree. .... and you still have at least 41,40. We have no such prices for a long time sad .... Gazpromneft - 45,90, Lukoil - 46,20 sad

          Do not believe idle speculation, believe your eyes:
          GAZPROMNEFT gas station No. 42
          Address: Kemerovo Region, Kemerovo, Ishimskaya Str.
          Prices: Au92 - 40.2 p .; Au95 - 42.5 p.; Au95 + - 43.4 p.; Au100 - 48.0 p.; Diesel + - 44.1 p.;
          GAZPROMNEFT gas station No. 9
          Address: Kemerovo region, Kemerovo city, Pioneer village.
          Prices: Au92 - 40.2 p .; Au95 - 42.5 p.; Au95 + - 43.4 p.; Au98 + - 46.7 p.; Diesel + - 44.1 p.; Propane - 25.5 p.;

          yes
          1. Arh
            Arh 2 November 2018 15: 40
            +1
            I noticed one thing: if the price of gasoline is reduced, then the price will decrease for almost everything;
        2. Flyer_64
          Flyer_64 2 November 2018 23: 22
          0
          Quote: Black
          We have no such prices for a long time

          We have 92 46.90-47.30 for today. And did not become cheaper.
      3. Underwater hunter
        Underwater hunter 2 November 2018 09: 03
        +8
        Quote: Donskoy
        At the wholesale market, it may have fallen in price, but at gas stations the price increase did not stop. Personally, I noticed that recently at the gas stations of Gazpromneft, AI-92 went up from 40,89 rubles to 41,40 rubles.

        Nothing in our country is getting cheaper, it's only getting more expensive ..
        1. KAV
          KAV 2 November 2018 09: 53
          +17
          Quote: Underwater Hunter
          Nothing cheaper in our country

          From what? Labor, for example, is getting cheaper.
          1. Semen1972
            Semen1972 2 November 2018 15: 36
            0
            Quote: KAV
            From what? Labor, for example, is getting cheaper.

            Oil workers began to receive less ????
            1. KAV
              KAV 2 November 2018 20: 24
              0
              Quote: Semen1972
              Oil workers began to receive less ????

              Sarcasm counts! )))
              But seriously, in our country, I don’t know, fortunately, or to grief, but not only oilmen are working ...
        2. Sandor Clegane
          Sandor Clegane 2 November 2018 11: 24
          0
          Quote: Underwater Hunter
          Nothing in our country is getting cheaper, it's only getting more expensive ..

          laughing But what about a taxi? .... Yandex taxi prices across the country dropped ....
        3. at84432384
          at84432384 2 November 2018 11: 58
          +3
          Well, not true. The labor of an ordinary person is constantly getting cheaper.
        4. lemal200
          lemal200 2 November 2018 15: 54
          0
          And shekoladki on Tuesdays at fives.?
      4. Non liberoid Russian
        Non liberoid Russian 2 November 2018 09: 29
        0
        how much the same price has cost since spring, so it costs ... 40-15 TNK and 40-30 Gazpromneft
        1. Yarik
          Yarik 2 November 2018 09: 51
          +3
          we have 4 rubles more. But the quality of gasoline has become disgusting
          1. Severok
            Severok 2 November 2018 16: 58
            0
            It’s also sung by Vladimir Semyonovich, but how relevant!

            How many rumors strike our ears?
            How many gossip corrodes like a moth?
            For example, rumors are circulating that the price for a mustache will rise! Absolutely!
            And especially - table salt.

            And like flies here and there, rumors are circulating around the houses
            And the toothless old women carry them to their minds ...
            They are carried to the minds.

            That's only in eReFii all the rumors for some reason have the property to come true, and the worst ones.
          2. mole
            mole 2 November 2018 20: 09
            0
            Also the quality has decreased. At the same time, rub fell today.
      5. Olgerd
        Olgerd 2 November 2018 11: 54
        0
        We have been with Gazpromneft from 41,89 to 41,99 two weeks ago.
      6. novobranets
        novobranets 4 November 2018 05: 14
        0
        Quote: Donskoy
        at gas stations, price increases did not stop.

        In Russia, gasoline rises in price in three cases. When the price of oil rises, when it falls, and when the price remains unchanged.
        belay
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 2 November 2018 09: 29
      +6
      In Russia, gasoline and solarium always go up to the sowing and harvesting. Why rejoice - then? Still to come.winked
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 2 November 2018 13: 49
        +1
        They say gasoline has fallen in price ...
        this is "the life of a Russian" has fallen in price ... it costs nothing. and Gazprom's yachts and villas are expensive ...
      2. BAI
        BAI 2 November 2018 13: 54
        +1
        Moreover, there are always seasonal price increases, but never seasonal reductions.
  2. Rimlianin
    Rimlianin 2 November 2018 08: 48
    +9
    Why doesn’t anyone say what will happen after the New Year? Then it will be possible to increase?
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 2 November 2018 10: 01
      +19
      After the New Year there will be a vacation and we will wake up in a new (on a temporary annual basis) country. Chewed spring price hike for fuel? Swallowed pension reform and an increase in VAT? Have you approved housing and utility tariffs? All ... What are you waiting for? Or go to work, get younger or do not interfere with sensible guys to rule the country. Not everything has been ruled yet ... belay
      1. Alexey Novikov
        Alexey Novikov 2 November 2018 11: 55
        -6
        Is there at least some government decision in response to which you would not have burst into a tedious tirade?
        1. Alf
          Alf 2 November 2018 18: 12
          +3
          Quote: Alexey Novikov
          Is there at least some government decision in response to which you would not have burst into a tedious tirade?

          So who is to blame that after each decision of the government it gets worse and worse?
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  4. keeper03
    keeper03 2 November 2018 08: 49
    0
    We can speak about the merits of the Russian government if ...
    Yes, there is no merit, because gasoline in any case rises in price! request
    1. Alexey Novikov
      Alexey Novikov 2 November 2018 11: 57
      -1
      Well yes. Only oil companies wanted to drive higher inflation, and the government drives it lower. They didn’t do anything, yeah.
  5. Giant thought
    Giant thought 2 November 2018 08: 49
    +16
    In my opinion, the most effective solution to the problems of prices for gasoline and other petroleum products is to nationalize the oil industry enterprises with price regulation by the state, but who will let it be done at the current moment, since there is no political will to do this.
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 2 November 2018 09: 25
      +7
      And you do not find that the whole oil industry has long been "nationalized", that's just the money does not go to the treasury, but in the pocket (most) to its owners !? hi stop
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 2 November 2018 09: 35
        +2
        Excise taxes in your pocket? Original ...
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 2 November 2018 09: 48
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Excise taxes in your pocket? Original ...

          laughing No wonder, there are plenty of "originals" on the site. The fact that excise taxes fill regional budgets, namely, road funds, 88% of the income from excise taxes on motor gasoline, straight-run gasoline, diesel fuel, motor oils for diesel and carburetor engines are credited, and the rest goes to the federal road fund - for "originals" as about nothing.
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 2 November 2018 12: 50
          +2
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Excise taxes in your pocket? Original ...

          and with what cones do oilman topmanagers have such salaries and bonuses (bonuses) for the year ??? And they shout that the overestimation of the cost of fuel is to blame for everything, while the processing of 1 ton of oil is 10% of its cost, as well as the inaccessibility of oil ...
          During the USSR, the entire oil industry with gas was managed by a ministry of 500 people, and now, probably, the number of managers has grown once in a hundred, at least, and there you have it.
          1. t-4
            t-4 2 November 2018 16: 30
            +1
            Quote: PSih2097
            During the USSR, the entire oil industry with gas was managed by a ministry of 500 people, and now, probably, the number of managers has grown once in a hundred, at least, and there you have it.

            So, just in case. In the USSR of the 80s, 10 liters of the seventy-sixth cost 3 rubles.
            Judge for yourself, it's more expensive than now. You could buy 180 liters for a salary of 600 Soviet rubles.
            Now for a salary, even 30, you can stock up on more than 000 liters of ninety-two.
      2. Giant thought
        Giant thought 2 November 2018 09: 36
        +8
        Everything that is useful in the depths of our country is a national property, i.e. belongs to the people, and the people extract everything, but only a handful of "fat cats" use the results of this labor, simultaneously profiting from the constant increase in prices for petroleum products. But they, apparently, did not study the history of our country well, if they forgot what excessive greed and greed lead to.
        1. your1970
          your1970 2 November 2018 09: 55
          0
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Everything that is useful in the depths of our country is a national property, i.e. belongs to the people, and the people extract everything, but only a handful of "fat cats" use the results of this labor, simultaneously profiting from the constant increase in prices for petroleum products.
          -oh ...
          budget fullness, look before tryndet ...
          Over the past year, the FCS gave 62% of the budget. The bulk of them accounted for export duties on energy.
          From budget (and not from the air !!!!) take denyuzhki for the army, doctors, teachers, health and yes, oddly enough - retirees ....
          1. Vinnibuh
            Vinnibuh 2 November 2018 10: 08
            +2
            But there is one caveat, fuel is getting more expensive, accordingly everything is getting more expensive! And in the epilogue, we pay for food, transportation, etc. more. And taxes are being torn off with us as well. And most of the economy puts cancer (
            1. your1970
              your1970 2 November 2018 10: 28
              0
              Quote: Vinnibuh
              And taxes are being torn off with us as well.
              -tax gives to the budget LESS 15% - do you catch the difference with 62%?
              1. g1washntwn
                g1washntwn 2 November 2018 11: 35
                +8
                Consider the food chain ...
                Private person: extracted the "national property" and paid the state 62% of the income. Plus income on exchange rate differences when selling "over the hill", minus - excise taxes. The rest, net of current operating expenses, is the net profit at the disposal of this person. In total, we have a positive balance, and if we speculate competently in the external and internal markets, we will have super-profits, even if we share it with the state budget on time.
                Population (the same hard worker who works for the first private individual): having earned his ruble, he gave 13 kopecks to the state (30% didn’t immediately receive a salary, since the employer also gives this to the state in the form of compulsory insurance, formerly known as UST), from 14 % he returned% to banks for interest on loans, salivated for the mandatory limit index of housing and communal services and for fanfare, wiping snot, the remainder spent on paying the margins of retail chains which, due to the first private individual, spent more on transportation with increasing fuel prices. Someone also manages to postpone the rest, but more often the rest is also on credit ...
                So, stop comparing the financial maneuvering capabilities of large corporations to the household budget! Simply put - to carry a blizzard about how poor these "Gazprom" are.
                PAYING FOR EVERYTHING IN THE END POPULATION.
                1. Alexey Novikov
                  Alexey Novikov 2 November 2018 12: 26
                  -2
                  FOR EVERYTHING IN THE FINAL ACCOUNT PAYS ON-SE-LE-NI-E.
                  All this, of course, is great, but why don’t you so tactfully say whose population it is. For oil and gas companies, the domestic market is trading at cost level. In 2016, the share of oil and gas revenues in the budget structure was 6 trillion, 44%. Plus the export of gasoline-oil-bitumen, plus weapons, plus agricultural - a total of about 60% of the budget, the minimum is formed from export activities. So the population, of course, pays, but far from everything, moreover, it is not the population that feeds the state, but exactly the opposite - the state feeds the population, and only due to natural idiocy most of this population still cannot (or does not want to) ) to realize this, preferring to consider himself the breadwinner of the whole state)
                  1. g1washntwn
                    g1washntwn 2 November 2018 13: 40
                    +5
                    I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Eremu. Do not play around and do not need demagoguery, the final product is paid for by the population - it is the final consumer, not corporations. I live in Russia and, accordingly, relate to its population (and you?). Energy resources and energy itself - this is what keeps domestic production, it will always be, there are simply no other more effective levers, respectively, domestic prices will always be deliberately restrained and will be unprofitable compared to export sales. Cheap energy (inside) - the driving force of production - that's the basics. Yes, the collection of taxes on the export of resources and weapons is an important and rather large income item of the budget (there are simply no other proposals to the external market), then less wine of the same state is collected from the population. Is the drop in purchasing power my fault? Excuse me, have I ruined the chapel too? Therefore, let’s blame those who make key economic decisions for natural idiocy, and not the “working-peasant class,” which is simply a hostage of external and internal economic factors.
                    1. Alexey Novikov
                      Alexey Novikov 2 November 2018 16: 44
                      0
                      The conversation was about filling the budget, and you are pushing carts for GDP. If you do not understand the difference, then you might not have scribbled such a footcloth, but write something simple and succinct, like "kg / am".
                2. your1970
                  your1970 2 November 2018 12: 56
                  -1
                  1) you forgot the costs of transportation, s / n, development, search for deposits and a bunch of things - which REMOVE still quite a lot from earnings. By the way, this also includes political fortels, including foreign ones.
                  2) loans? If you have housing and you work, then you do not have global loans. And if there are, then they are of the level - "Hachu iPhone / new car"
                  Naturally, children need to be raised / educated - but there are nuances here too
                  Naturally, you need to live within your means
                  3) Naturally - the population always and everywhere pays for everything. All over the world, it is believed that customs should give no more than 7% of the budget - otherwise it means a crisis, tax should give at least 90%.
                  Only here collectability taxes worldwide are hundreds of times higher than ours individuals. And in our country (individual !!!!) approximately 15% do not pay property tax and up to 25% on land - simply because this property is not registered, in general ...
                  I don’t imagine any foreigner who actually has a house - and LEGALLY he does not exist with him.
                  1. g1washntwn
                    g1washntwn 2 November 2018 14: 11
                    +5
                    1) Just in numbers, who will have more net profit in absolute terms?
                    - Gazprom, revenue for 2017 - 1 857,93 BILLION RUB.
                    - L.Mikhelson earned $ 18,4 billion over the year (did you notice the dollar icon?)
                    - The average income of a Russian is 0,000029 billion rubles.

                    2) For most, credit is not a luxury, but a source of finance, to meet the needs, and often, these needs are not iPhones and cars, but housing, training, expensive treatment. No populism, okay? The largest loans for yachts and foreign palaces with maserati are taken by people with quite a lot of wealth.

                    3) Look, you are not the one making up the garden toilets taxes? So fiercely interfere with the tax ...))) Do not confuse collection with rates and gross income from taxes "there" and here. The point is that everywhere tax burden is associated with purchasing power. If you want to collect more for the state budget, let people earn more. The key addition is to everyone, not to a separate bunch of oligarchs.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 3 November 2018 00: 11
                      -1
                      1) and what did you bring these numbers to?
                      2) housing?
                      “There are 37 million apartments in Russia, almost 14 million residential buildings and 2 million separate rooms. And there is a lot of land - 35,8 million land plots.
                      But there are many more owners. 78,8 million people are direct owners of housing, 41 million are land plots, 9,8 million are non-residential buildings and premises (Rosreestr). More than 30 million apartments have been privatized (Rosstat). "
                      I will explain on fingers - 78,8 direct homeowners. This means that everyone second HAS his own personal housing.
                      It may be bad, small, emergency - but it does.
                      Plus, this is housing that is not registered and for which taxes are not paid.
                      Having adopted a family of 3 people, we get an almost fully provided population with housing.
                      But if a person wants to invest and takes loans for this - then, excuse me, his personal problems. Without populism, okay?
                      3)
                      Quote: g1washntwn
                      The thing is that everywhere tax burden is associated with purchasing power.
                      - nowhere else in the world is it related to purchasing power

                      Highest income tax rates
                      N Jurisdiction Rate (%)
                      1 Aruba (Netherlands) 58,95
                      2 Sweden 56,6
                      3 Denmark 55,56
                      4 Netherlands 52
                      5 Spain 52
                      6 Finland 51,13
                      7 Japan 50,84
                      8 Austria 50
                      9 Belgium 50
                      10 Israel 50
                      11 Slovenia 50
                      12 Ireland 48
                      13 Portugal 48
                      14 Norway 47,8
                      15 Sint Maarten (Netherlands) 47,5
                      16 Zimbabwe 46,35 belay fellow
                      17 Iceland 46,22
                      18 Australia 45
                      19 China 45
                      20 France 45
                      21 Germany 45
                      22 UK 45
                      Source: KPMG.

                      and in this table there is generally no one with purchasing power

                      Highest average tax rate

                      N Jurisdiction Level (%)
                      1 Gambia 283,5
                      2 Comoros 217,9
                      3 Democratic
                      Republic of the Congo 118,1
                      4 Argentina 107,8
                      5 Uzbekistan 99,3
                      6 Guinea 91,2
                      7 Central African
                      Republic 87,6
                      8 Tajikistan 86
                      9 Eritrea 84,5
                      10 Bolivia 83,4
                      11 Colombia 76
                      12 Palau 75,2
                      13 Chad 73,8
                      14 Algeria 71,9
                      15 Brazil 68,3
                      16 Mauritania 68,2
                      17 Benin 65,9
                      18 Italy 65,8
                      19 Nicaragua 64,9
                      20 Marshall Islands 64,8
          2. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 2 November 2018 10: 58
            +5
            Quote: your1970
            Quote: Thought Giant
            Everything that is useful in the depths of our country is a national property, i.e. belongs to the people, and the people extract everything, but only a handful of "fat cats" use the results of this labor, simultaneously profiting from the constant increase in prices for petroleum products.
            -oh ...
            budget fullness, look before tryndet ...
            Over the past year, the FCS gave 62% of the budget. The bulk of them accounted for export duties on energy.
            From budget (and not from the air !!!!) take denyuzhki for the army, doctors, teachers, health and yes, oddly enough - retirees ....

            By your logic, an increase in energy prices leads to better filling of the budget, and this is a benefit for the population))
            1. your1970
              your1970 2 November 2018 13: 00
              -1
              Quote: Siberian barber
              Quote: your1970
              Quote: Thought Giant
              Everything that is useful in the depths of our country is a national property, i.e. belongs to the people, and the people extract everything, but only a handful of "fat cats" use the results of this labor, simultaneously profiting from the constant increase in prices for petroleum products.
              -oh ...
              budget fullness, look before tryndet ...
              Over the past year, the FCS gave 62% of the budget. The bulk of them accounted for export duties on energy.
              From budget (and not from the air !!!!) take denyuzhki for the army, doctors, teachers, health and yes, oddly enough - retirees ....

              By your logic, rising energy prices lead to лучшей budget filling and this is good for the population))
              -if you haven't noticed, it was in the "fat years" that a lot of new things arose in the country - perinatal centers, new types of weapons, etc.
              1. The Siberian barber
                The Siberian barber 2 November 2018 18: 08
                +1
                Quote: your1970
                Quote: Siberian barber
                Quote: your1970
                Quote: Thought Giant
                Everything that is useful in the depths of our country is a national property, i.e. belongs to the people, and the people extract everything, but only a handful of "fat cats" use the results of this labor, simultaneously profiting from the constant increase in prices for petroleum products.
                -oh ...
                budget fullness, look before tryndet ...
                Over the past year, the FCS gave 62% of the budget. The bulk of them accounted for export duties on energy.
                From budget (and not from the air !!!!) take denyuzhki for the army, doctors, teachers, health and yes, oddly enough - retirees ....

                By your logic, rising energy prices lead to лучшей budget filling and this is good for the population))
                -if you haven't noticed, it was in the "fat years" that a lot of new things arose in the country - perinatal centers, new types of weapons, etc.

                Yes! We did a lot) I'm afraid I could even imagine how much they could, or have "effective management" at the trough))
                I, in fact, meant our "innovative economy" (a combination of what kind), which this "management" is building, in the post-Yeltsin period. And your thesis confirms this)))
                Sorry for sarcasm
          3. New Year day
            New Year day 2 November 2018 15: 27
            +3
            Quote: your1970
            It is from the budget (and not from the air !!!!) that they take money for the army, doctors, teachers, health care, and yes, oddly enough - pensioners ....

            stunned!
            According to the WGC, today the Central Bank of Russia has at its disposal more than two thousand tons of gold, or 17% of all the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the planet. Their value exceeds $ 78 billion.
            Where is my adequate life pension, CB? Where are the medicines in hospitals, CB? Awooooooooooooooooooooooo
            And do not talk about sanctions. They did not prevent the increase in the number of millionaires and billionaires in the country
            1. your1970
              your1970 2 November 2018 23: 54
              +1
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: your1970
              It is from the budget (and not from the air !!!!) that they take money for the army, doctors, teachers, health care, and yes, oddly enough - pensioners ....

              stunned!
              According to the WGC, today the Central Bank of Russia has at its disposal more than two thousand tons of gold, or 17% of all the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the planet. Their value exceeds $ 78 billion.
              Where is my adequate life pension, CB? Where are the medicines in hospitals, CB? Awooooooooooooooooooooooo
              And do not talk about sanctions. They did not prevent the increase in the number of millionaires and billionaires in the country
              - So you are only and exclusively interested in YOU yourself loved? and it doesn’t matter what will happen tomorrow - do you need a piece now?
              “The cost per flight hour depends on the type of aircraft. Here are just a few examples:
              F - 16 Block 52 - $ 7100 / hour
              F / A - 18E - $ 12 / hour
              For interest, I will give data on Tu-160 - $ 30 per hour
              And here's another curious figure: F-22 - $ 44 for 000 hour in the air "
              I’m embarrassed to ask - are you against TU-160 flying?
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 3 November 2018 11: 58
                -1
                Quote: your1970
                I’m embarrassed to ask - are you against TU-160 flying?

                not against, but I'm against it

                Some pay taxes, while others profit.
                Are you aware that over the past year the number of billionaires and millionaires in Russia has increased? They are citizens of the country, have they all paid taxes?
                And how is corruption?
        2. Semen1972
          Semen1972 2 November 2018 15: 42
          -4
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Everything that is useful is in the bowels of our country, is a public property, i.e. belongs to the people

          Not to the people but to the state. YOU do not belong !!!! And the state gives a license for the development of minerals. You have the logic of a 3 year old child, or a 90 year old man .. it’s usually the same thing.
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 2 November 2018 10: 06
        0
        Quote: keeper03
        And you do not find that the whole oil industry has long been "nationalized", that's just the money does not go to the treasury, but in the pocket (most) to its owners !? hi stop

        You, Mr. Comrade Barin, have confused nationalization with privatization. Although specific representatives of a particular nation in this matter are not on the sidelines ... As for the most part ... So it’s been written in a long time ago who to give in to and to whom in the face. The treasury is a nationwide business. You never know what can happen in the crowd. belay
    2. Wilderness
      Wilderness 2 November 2018 10: 02
      +3
      The point of nationalizing if the state is privatized?
  6. bessmertniy
    bessmertniy 2 November 2018 08: 50
    +13
    Maybe wholesale gasoline is getting cheaper somewhere, but at gas stations I don’t remember at all the case that the price of a liter fell in price. No matter how cheaper oil is on world markets, the selling price of a liter at our gas stations either remained or crawled up.
    1. Alexey Novikov
      Alexey Novikov 2 November 2018 12: 27
      -1
      And you do not monitor oil, but the price of gasoline in countries where the price of gasoline is formed by the market. You realize a lot. Probably.
  7. Million
    Million 2 November 2018 08: 50
    +3
    The government as a stupid girl: then - I will give, then - I will not give, then - my mother does not order ...
  8. please
    please 2 November 2018 08: 52
    0
    Is there anyone here from the Irkutsk region? Is it true that there a liter of summer diesel fuel already costs 64 rubles?
    1. The black
      The black 2 November 2018 09: 04
      +6
      Euro diesel in the Irkutsk region today - 44,50 (Rosneft)
      1. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 2 November 2018 09: 35
        +4
        BENZO diesel fuel in Vladivostok costs 51,99
  9. zyzx
    zyzx 2 November 2018 08: 53
    +8
    I'm in Novosibirsk a doctor. Here I decided to read the pension law, I thought all the rules, we have 1 year and a half, if they increased it by 5 years, then I only 3, which is bad but not fatal. How I broke off. They didn’t raise the output for years of service, still 30 years old, I’m 20. But there will be a delay in payments. That is, you can retire as long as you want, only the payments will start ... tadaaaaam in 8 years and we can’t reduce them like we haven’t been in a year and a half. (I admit, since I have time a little earlier, I'm only 6 years old). Therefore, the price of gasoline, shmenzin .... would not die ...
  10. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 2 November 2018 08: 53
    +9
    Everything is done artificially. Only brains are clogged to people with all kinds of chatter and calculations.
  11. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 2 November 2018 08: 53
    +10
    At gas stations NOTHING fell in price angry
    Daily and even weekly exchange rate fluctuations affect only the excess profits of suppliers and resellers, as well as the consumer’s pocket, but in the opposite direction of cash flow.
    1. Vinnibuh
      Vinnibuh 2 November 2018 08: 59
      +1
      MB live in the wrong reality? On TV we are all basking in chocolate. ))))))))) (sad joke)
      1. g1washntwn
        g1washntwn 2 November 2018 11: 01
        +1
        (anegdot, about "chocolate")
        - We have mastered the production of sweets from $ Aries.
        “And how are you doing?”
        - Wrap and outwardly, like chocolate. But the taste and smell must be improved.
  12. maw
    maw 2 November 2018 08: 54
    +13
    I don't know where and how, but in the Stavropol Territory 95th: Lukoil - 46,8 rubles; Rosneft -45,7 rubles. Solarium is more expensive than 92nd. If the wholesale price was dropped, this does not mean that retail will fall. Okay, we are not proud, we survived hunger, we will survive and "abundance". laughing The main thing is that Sechin and Alikperov do not deny themselves anything. yes
    1. New Year day
      New Year day 2 November 2018 15: 23
      0
      Quote: maw
      The main thing is that Sechin and Alikperov do not deny themselves anything

      and didn’t drown in gasoline
  13. darksoul
    darksoul 2 November 2018 08: 54
    +11
    where does the oil come from, non-petty companies have their own math, when oil banged from $ 118 per barrel to $ 40, they said that gasoline does not depend on oil, it's all excise taxes ....... how oil began to grow like mushrooms after rain went up ....... not a shame not a conscience, where so much money, everything is small (((
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 2 November 2018 09: 54
      +1
      oil companies don’t see money at a higher price ... as soon as oil passes for $ 60 - a progressive taxation scale is included ... and after $ 80 they take everything higher to the treasury ... I recommend being more professional in speaking ...
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 2 November 2018 08: 57
    +3
    Gasoline in our country rises in price in three cases: when oil rises in price, when oil becomes cheaper, and when the price of oil remains unchanged.

    Tooting! There is nothing more to add .... at a simple, literary language, if, but on the other hand it is possible .... but it is fraught.
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 November 2018 09: 31
    +2
    At the same time, such an important detail as the fall in oil prices is somehow overlooked. Over the past few weeks, Brent crude has fallen in price by more than 10%. At the same time, the dollar did not rise, remaining at the level of 65-67 rubles per unit of American currency.

    Yes, no time for weeks and even months for the price of oil to influence anything. Only human greed is INSTANT.
  16. New Year day
    New Year day 2 November 2018 09: 33
    +9
    if
    fell in price from the scream of Medvedev, then from the scream of Putin should be free? What did not shout before?
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 2 November 2018 15: 48
      -2
      Quote: Silvestr
      What did not shout before?

      Raises excise taxes and VAT with one hand, and we hold prices with the other hand ... It won’t end well .. By the New Year’s they’ll hold it all, interest will increase by 10% .. But on the other hand. Excises increase that would be something ... And that we would live better ... Well, not only we, of course, the Syrian brothers, for example, etc. ..
  17. Alex66
    Alex66 2 November 2018 09: 37
    +4
    As far as I understand, fuel prices, just like the ruble is determined not by the market, but by the government, instead of creating an efficient economy, they simply collapse the ruble or increase excise taxes, they have no more sense.
  18. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 2 November 2018 09: 43
    +1
    oil is getting cheaper - we compensate for this by the price of gasoline. price rises - as oil rises in price. vicious circle
  19. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 2 November 2018 09: 52
    +6
    It is fun to read the comments of people who are not immersed in the topic (approximately as discussions about the military operations of those who never served in the army) ...
    If you put a list of gasoline / diesel price components next to Stella with prices ... then it turns out ... that oil companies have nothing to do with ... excise taxes and local and federal taxes rake out almost everything ... (for reference, wholesale prices for diesel fuel since November 2017, almost always higher than retail) large companies trade at a loss and leave (it’s not funny) to trade coffee and other "chocolates" ... the dibble construction of the market by the government of Mr. Medvedev led to contractual (manual) regulation ... and all this is not reliable ...
    They asked large companies to sell fuel to small third-party suppliers as for their own ... and what ... these small animals (like a female dog) immediately began to resell it where they pay more (for example, abroad) and cut grandmas ... DOES NOT WORK so the system ... and we need system solutions ...
    The story will continue until they understand ... that a cow cannot be milked endlessly deciding at the expense of it its incompetence ...
    1. Shkodnik65
      Shkodnik65 2 November 2018 10: 23
      +1
      If it does not bother you, in specific numbers, please. And start with the cost of oil, okay? And then we’ll agree so that the oil workers are working at a loss and Mr. Alikperov or Sechin went around the world with outstretched hands crying
      1. silberwolf88
        silberwolf88 3 November 2018 12: 46
        0
        if you have an interest ... the internet will help you ... information is open
    2. New Year day
      New Year day 2 November 2018 15: 21
      +1
      Quote: silberwolf88
      It’s fun to read the comments of people not immersed in the topic

      it seems to me that most people have a drum that
      Quote: silberwolf88
      excise taxes and local and federal taxes scoop up almost everything ...

      People just want to have affordable prices, because in our country gasoline is the head and power that has given natural resources to their friends.
      And the rulers should have a headache, how to provide people with a decent life.
      1. Semen1972
        Semen1972 2 November 2018 15: 51
        -2
        Quote: Silvestr
        And the rulers should have a headache, how to provide people with a decent life.

        Why would the government provide this? You don’t find that the richer, the freer people, there is an opportunity to see the world, compare, study and so on .. And the poorer, the easier it is — a box was set for him and uncles tell you about the World for a lot of money ..
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 2 November 2018 16: 03
          +1
          Quote: Semen1972
          You do not find that the richer, the freer people, there is an opportunity for the world to see, compare, learn, and so on.

          the great Beaumarchais also said: "Money develops imagination." You can add - the more money, the more fantasy
      2. silberwolf88
        silberwolf88 3 November 2018 12: 45
        0
        I agree ... yes, most people really do not care who and how increases prices ... BUT this is an indicator of the unprofessional work of the government ... and first of all (oddly enough, the Ministry of Energy is not responsible for prices ... although Novak is often rinsed for nothing) and The Ministry of Economic Development and the Ministry of Finance ... there is just a bunch of "saboteurs" ...
  20. JonnyT
    JonnyT 2 November 2018 10: 05
    +3
    The government "pisses in the ears" that all evil oil companies and greedy oligarchs rip off the population, but here's the catch - the oil companies are ripped off by the government, consisting of oligarchs and their friends
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 3 November 2018 12: 47
      0
      exactly))
  21. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 2 November 2018 10: 06
    +8
    Again! Lord, laughter and sin!
    All our rulers are HSE graduates. Higher, for a moment, School of Economics. Have you noticed? Schools of economics, not schools of war communism, not schools of dictatorship, not a higher school of autocracy. That is, for some reason we hope that our rulers will manage the economy using ECONOMIC methods. They will form an economic environment in which gas prices cannot rise uncontrollably, depending solely on the greed of the oil workers, as is happening now in our country.
    In other countries, this is quite possible. In others ... and with us? And the only thing that our brilliant government can do is to convene a meeting at which it threatens the oil industry and demands from them. Our rulers yell, knock on the table with their fists and write with rage. These are all economic methods that they are REALLY capable of. They don’t know anything else. This is not even funny, it is dreary to horror.
    For any person who really looks at things, it has long been clear, HSE does not teach anyone anything. They are engaged in zombifying their "students", breaking their minds under a given psychomatrix. What is the difference between a spoiled man and an ordinary person? A severe decrease in intelligence. You cannot reason if unconditional subordinating imperatives are driven into you. If reality does not correspond to what is hammered into your head with a nail - so much the worse for reality! The spoiled ones react, trying to subordinate processes that do not fit into their vision of the world by force, as far as they have enough.
    The wild economic picture, which our rulers operate, and which is firmly planted in their brain, has nothing to do with reality. Therefore, they do not succeed, almost all their "innovations" are destructive, and the impact of their work on reality is either minimal or catastrophic. Zombies are unsuitable for complex activities of the mind, alas. Economic recovery? Seriously?!
    1. Semen1972
      Semen1972 2 November 2018 15: 53
      -1
      Quote: Mikhail3
      All our rulers are HSE graduates. Higher, for a moment, School of Economics. Have you noticed?

      All our rulers are graduates of the Leningrad State University. And would you like a populist slogan from Russia to lead Russia?
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 2 November 2018 19: 43
        -1
        I dream that people like you will learn to listen. At least seven to ten seconds before rushing to chat yourself. However, my dreams are in vain ...
    2. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 3 November 2018 12: 52
      +1
      in vain you are so at the HSE)) ... the current "members" of the Government graduated from Soviet universities (a generation of new Russian / educated on the way) ...
      But who are they ideologically ... a good question ... many are money-traitors ... when I meet a dismissive "in this country" or "this people is not capable" ... I understand that in front of me is a traitor to the Motherland ...
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 3 November 2018 13: 16
        0
        Yes, they did. And then they finished this zombie. As for the ideology ... You see, they were screwed there and the fact that no ideology is needed. Due to the fact that without ideology, a rational creature cannot live, with the exception of declassified elements, their ideology is the ideology of triumphant stupidity.
      2. Semen1972
        Semen1972 8 November 2018 16: 10
        -2
        Quote: silberwolf88
        many are money traitors.

        This is purely your subjective opinion based on your failure. You think that if you yourself are nothing, then the problem is in the government. But there are people who have achieved very much and are very praising the current government.
        1. silberwolf88
          silberwolf88 10 November 2018 23: 38
          0
          You have big problems with causal relationships))) ... especially (completely unaware of me) to write about my failure ... the assumption that there I am ... amusing however you ... it’s all the same ... that in response to this replica (this is just an example) I will write that you are a complete idiot with 3 classes of central vocational schools))) ... well, there is no logic ...
          And if you take into account the postulate of psychology ... that a person always talks about MYSELF ... well, there is a lot to understand about you))
  22. zloijjet
    zloijjet 2 November 2018 10: 09
    +2
    Apparently all the "cream" goes towards the payment of the country's independence ...
  23. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 2 November 2018 10: 11
    0
    Quote: Rimlianin
    Why doesn’t anyone say what will happen after the New Year? Then it will be possible to increase?

    In fact, Mr. Kozak previously stated that the agreement would be valid from October 31 to March 31, 2019. It seems that somewhere it has not "grown together" ... Or the news was not presented in the right way. And then the increase in prices based on the results of annual inflation.
    1. g1washntwn
      g1washntwn 2 November 2018 11: 45
      +1
      EVERYONE is in a hurry to raise prices until 31.12.2018/2/XNUMX, so that after this date they raise another two times, nodding a XNUMX% increase in VAT.
  24. AleBors
    AleBors 2 November 2018 10: 32
    +2
    Someone like. For example, today I saw only grown up price tags. So while the price is only virtual.
    And so it will be: the government will pretend to frighten the oil workers, and those, in turn, will pretend that they are scared. And prices will still rise. Especially in 2019 ...
  25. O. Bender
    O. Bender 2 November 2018 11: 01
    0
    In Sarat. Obl. Of the city of Balakovo, Ai92 is 40,8 rubles per liter, this is the very minimum, gas is 30 rubles. In the city of Pugachev, gas is 25 rubles, although 70 km of difference is at hand.
    1. your1970
      your1970 4 November 2018 09: 58
      0
      Quote: O. Bender
      In Sarat.obl.g. Balakovo Ai92 40,8re per liter, this is the very minimum, 30re gas.V Pugachev gas 25re , although close at hand 70km difference.
      -Pugachev has his own local gas production, and they sell it ...
  26. Larum
    Larum 2 November 2018 11: 02
    0
    Wah, according to even Peskov, for 08-09 months gasoline went up by 10 percent.

    So the government is in the know
  27. Bomb
    Bomb 2 November 2018 11: 12
    0
    - They say that spies poisoned the moonshine with water.
    Well, the bread is now made of fish scales.
  28. Conductor
    Conductor 2 November 2018 11: 29
    0
    The main merit of the government is that there is mineral resources in the bowels, which we must obtain, sell and receive every piece of our happiness.
    1. Bomb
      Bomb 2 November 2018 11: 45
      0
      It turns out that the bowels of the people do not belong because may be in state, private and other ownership a ha ha well, guides, sun-faced handsome men =)
  29. Alexey Novikov
    Alexey Novikov 2 November 2018 11: 52
    -2
    At the same time, such an important detail as the fall in oil prices is somehow overlooked. Over the past few weeks, Brent crude has fallen in price by more than 10%. At the same time, the dollar did not rise, remaining at the level of 65-67 rubles per unit of American currency.
    How long has gasoline in Russia been at a market price? Well, so that you can indicate the price of a barrel? It seems that people and especially analysts have brains sewn to the ass on a rope.
  30. ustas - Crimea
    ustas - Crimea 2 November 2018 11: 55
    0
    Where have you seen such gas prices? In the Crimea AI-95 49,69 p. on Lukoil. If it’s cheaper where, write I’ll fill in a full tank.
  31. Gerklim
    Gerklim 2 November 2018 12: 29
    0
    And to us what is from this. Wholesale prices have declined, but in retail? It's all nonsense.
  32. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 2 November 2018 13: 29
    0
    They say gasoline has fallen in price ...

    As always tryndyat laughing
    There was such a saying among thimblers in the 90s: "I twist, twirl, on ..... I want to deceive" lol
    Judging by the fuss at the very top, the feeder along the way became impoverished and the dough extraction began already at each other.
  33. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 2 November 2018 14: 27
    0
    January-February 2019 will sadden us with the price of fuel, and September-October will come!
  34. Adimius38
    Adimius38 2 November 2018 17: 00
    0
    when they stop fucking ????
  35. DPN
    DPN 2 November 2018 22: 58
    0
    It’s easy to powder brains, according to the recollections of Soviet people, prices only fell under Stalin, and in the USSR they were stable, and under our capitalism which one will reduce them.
  36. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 3 November 2018 09: 39
    0
    but gasoline is cheaper than a dollar
  37. 72jora72
    72jora72 3 November 2018 09: 51
    0
    I don’t know where, what, and who fell in price, but in Chukotka the day before yesterday, a diesel engine began to cost 56 rubles, instead of 52 ..................