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The Armenian parliament "fell." What Armenia Pashinyan forges?

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Armenian parliament dissolved. Thus, it can be stated that John Bolton, who visited Yerevan, was not in vain amazed by the “amazing luck” of Nikol Pashinyan.


The Armenian parliament "fell." What Armenia Pashinyan forges?


The situation for Armenia is really amazing: a person not only took power into his own hands in the wake of street protests, but in the shortest possible time put all political elites of the republic in a certain position. Having declared his de jure resignation from the post of prime minister and remaining on the same post de facto, Pashinyan made an offer to parliament that he ultimately could not refuse ...

The message from Pashinyan is “democratically” simple: I present myself as a candidate for the post of prime minister - and either you support me, and I again become prime minister, or I dissolve the parliament, and already the new parliament confirms my unallocated candidacy for the premiership.

The parliament, refusing to Pashinyan twice in a row, eventually dissolved. And now Armenia is awaited by extraordinary parliamentary elections, the crown of which Nikol Pashinyan sees himself as a prime minister with a controlled majority in parliament.

Today, Armenia and. The prime minister called it “an island without a sea” in the sense that the borders with some of its neighbors are closed. According to Pashinyan, he is ready to resolve this situation by starting the negotiation process with Turkey. For many Armenians, this is a painful issue in the sense that relations with Turkey run into the issue of the 1915 genocide of the year. Turkey does not recognize him. Against this background, the question arises: will Pashinyan negotiate without a historical context?

From the statements on the Karabakh problem.

According to Pashinyan, many people are deeply mistaken, believing that they can force Armenia to resolve the Karabakh issue without taking into account Armenian interests. The acting Prime Minister stated that Armenia will be consolidated in order to achieve the realization of its national goals. And these goals Pashinyan previously called the establishment of relations with Europe without discord with Russia. Cunning multi-vector or real desire to make Armenia more prosperous economically and politico-military?

Against this background, in Armenia itself, some consider Pashinyan to be a modern and wise politician who is ready to defend the national interests of the country, while others see Pashinyan as an opportunist who is ready to trade in interests, right up to the “surrender” of Karabakh.
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  1. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 1 November 2018 18: 45 New
    +5
    In my opinion, this round is won by the USA, I hope that not the whole battle, but only one round ...
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 1 November 2018 18: 56 New
      +24
      The United States absolutely does not give a damn who is there and where it will be from the personalities of opportunists at the head of states, they are promoting their idea, or rather they are selling it very expensively, you do not need to buy the whole people, buy one, but one that is active. We, on the contrary, build, arm, teach, and then give everything, forgive debts and leave the region.
    2. Yujanin
      Yujanin 1 November 2018 19: 00 New
      +9
      John Bolton who visited Yerevan was not in vain amazed at Nikol Pashinyan’s “amazing luck”.

      In fact, it was a hint to Pashik that he would always remember due to what forces he was so “surprisingly lucky”
      https://marafonec.livejournal.com/9785383.html
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      2. genisis
        genisis 1 November 2018 19: 50 New
        -6
        Shurochka, are you still tired of rushing about with this picture, which exposes everyone and everything? )))
        Let's once again anneal about the graduate of the Russian military-diplomatic academy David Tonoyan, having described in detail what year he was recruited; by whom, where and under what circumstances recruitment was carried out; as well as indicating his curator in the US intelligence agencies.
        Apparently the CIA and other US intelligence agencies are working so clumsy that in Azerbaijan every cook knows the details of recruiting agents of any importance laughing
        1. Yujanin
          Yujanin 1 November 2018 20: 12 New
          +12
          Greetings Genochka! You have not been seen on the forum for a long time. Is it still jumping? Well, how are things on the island of freedom, let's tell you: did the revolution succeed in Armenia and did the people live like in Europe? Have all the oligarchs been laid on asphalt?laughing
        2. Armen
          Armen 2 November 2018 17: 07 New
          +2
          Don’t touch him — he’s a local favorite favorite. The guardian of the interests of Ilham, part-time great analyst, srez for Armenian personnel, and generally special.
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 November 2018 19: 08 New
      +12
      Quote: ANCIENT
      In my opinion, this round is won by the USA

      We can get another Poroshenko, only already in Armenia. That's dangerous.
      1. saigon
        saigon 1 November 2018 19: 21 New
        +10
        Danger for whom?
        For us, the danger is a moot point, for Baku, too, not sure.
        So the dangers in full measure shining only Armenia
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 1 November 2018 19: 22 New
          0
          Quote: saigon
          Danger for whom?
          For us, the danger is a moot point, for Baku, too, not sure.
          So the dangers in full measure shining only Armenia

          So Parashka is not dangerous for us? That is, the base with axes on the territory of Ukraine sideways?
          1. pillau
            pillau 1 November 2018 19: 32 New
            +9
            People mixed up in a heap, horses ... Why did Poroshenko come here, Andrei? An article about Armenia, no?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 1 November 2018 19: 33 New
              +7
              Quote: Pillau
              Why did Poroshenko come here, Andrey?

              But is this Armenian king not the same art work of the USA? No?
              1. pillau
                pillau 1 November 2018 19: 36 New
                +2
                Same. My bat card, Mr. Smith .. laughing hi
              2. Tersky
                Tersky 1 November 2018 19: 52 New
                +12
                Quote: NEXUS
                But is this Armenian king not the same art work of the USA?

                It is enough to see "his" government, there are gathered those who devoted all their activity to discredit Russian-Armenian relations. Many of these cadres come from the Open Society Armenia Foundation (Soros Foundation), the National Endowment for Democracy "NED", the European Endowment for Democracy "EED", etc. It was the National Fund for the Support of Democracy through grants that financed the Armenian Time newspaper, which belongs to (guess who at one time). wink
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 1 November 2018 19: 55 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Tersky
                  which belongs, guess to whom from once.

                  Martians! wassat I remember the State Department’s statement about the Kremlin’s relations with aliens. So it’s not the USA, but the MARSIAN. I tell you exactly. wassat
              3. genisis
                genisis 1 November 2018 20: 13 New
                -1
                And this king is Armenian

                Why do you call Pashinyan - king? For the whole time that he is prime minister, what has he done of the tsar’s? Over the entire period of Pashinyan’s premiership, what specific steps have been taken so that commentators at VO call him “US protege”, “second Poroshenko”, “American hirelings” and other absurdities?
                1. Yujanin
                  Yujanin 1 November 2018 20: 46 New
                  +12
                  Why do you call Pashinyan - king?
                  In this period of time, Pashinyan creates a one-party parliament in Armenia. It is not good. But there are positive aspects to this story. Armenia will become the first country in the world where a democratic government will function without opposition laughing
                  Therefore, I propose to replace the expression "king" previously used with respect to Pashinyan by the word "dictator" laughing
                  1. Lara Croft
                    Lara Croft 1 November 2018 21: 52 New
                    0
                    Quote: Yujanin
                    But there are positive aspects to this story. Armenia will become the first country in the world where a democratic government will function without opposition

                    Well, for example, in Albania there is also a unicameral Parliament ...
                    1. Yujanin
                      Yujanin 1 November 2018 22: 35 New
                      +3
                      Well, for example, in Albania there is also a unicameral Parliament ...

                      Well, that means Armenia will get a prize in this list)
                      1. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 1 November 2018 22: 42 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Yujanin
                        Well, for example, in Albania there is also a unicameral Parliament ...

                        Well, that means Armenia will get a prize in this list)

                        I still look. You do not believe in the success and prosperity of the former Armenian SSR, sadness .... fellow
                      2. Yujanin
                        Yujanin 1 November 2018 23: 25 New
                        +4
                        I still look. You do not believe in the success and prosperity of the former Armenian SSR, sadness.

                        So about prosperity, even speech can not be. Here the question is - to be or not to be Armenia.
                      3. Lara Croft
                        Lara Croft 1 November 2018 23: 27 New
                        +4
                        Quote: Yujanin
                        I still look. You do not believe in the success and prosperity of the former Armenian SSR, sadness.

                        So about prosperity, even speech can not be. Here the question is - to be or not to be in the future Republic of Armenia.

                        What are you saying here, here the comrades are saying that tomorrow Armenia will be Central Europe ...
                      4. Yujanin
                        Yujanin 1 November 2018 23: 34 New
                        +2
                        What are you saying here, here comrades are saying, sho tomorrow Armenia will be CE Europe

                        The euphoria will pass very soon! Remember the story of Yushchenko?
                      5. genisis
                        genisis 2 November 2018 00: 11 New
                        -3
                        "Everything passes and this will pass"
                2. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 2 November 2018 02: 20 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  I still look. You do not believe in the success and prosperity of the former Armenian SSR, sadness ....

                  and here it is not a matter of faith, but objective factors. The country is in a martial law with another country. There is no access to the sea, 1448 km of 1210 km are closed. And the remaining small lengths of the borders are so-so. There is no communication with Georgia, but land through Georgia to Russia, the climatic conditions often fill up with snow and a small access to Iran. All regional projects are bypassed, and in such conditions, anyone you set as high as possible economic conditions may improve slightly due to some reduction of corruption and more rational use of funds, but not much. On the whole, the situation will remain the same.
                3. lukewarm
                  lukewarm 2 November 2018 09: 15 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  economic conditions may improve slightly

                  IMHO, color revolutions of varying degrees of "civilization" are made from century to century (called differently only) not to improve the economic situation of these countries. The purpose of these coups is to bring to power individuals loyal to global capital and the United States as its shock force.
                4. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 2 November 2018 09: 26 New
                  0
                  Quote: unwillingly
                  The purpose of these coups is to bring to power individuals loyal to global capital and the United States as its shock force.

                  I answered a comrade from above who spoke about the success and prosperity of Armenia.
                  and as for color revolutions, well, color revolutions are different and have different results and not all revolutions are color, they can occur without external interventions.
                5. lukewarm
                  lukewarm 2 November 2018 09: 56 New
                  +3
                  I apologize for the deviation from the topic. I like the old definition of revolution - this is when the system changes in the country. Everything else - a coup, coup, velvet, fluffy, apricot or some other revolution. Depending on the bloodiness and taste of the people who sponsored it. Story in my opinion has not changed. Factories were not distributed to workers laughing So, the clans in power simply changed. In Armenia itself, the Russian Federation is primarily interested in loyalty. The era of fraternal peoples has sunk into oblivion. They don’t want to join us in the idea, all the more so as we don’t have an idea for ourselves. So allies must be bought. He buys them from someone who has more money, i.e., the United States. What we see around the perimeter of our borders. I haven’t followed Pashinyan’s career, while I see that he is both ours and yours, like Yanukovych. Let's see how long it takes.
            2. Yujanin
              Yujanin 2 November 2018 14: 30 New
              +2
              In general, the situation in Armenia will remain the same.

              Lavrov of the same opinion
              "We understand that until the internal political processes in Armenia are completed, they are quite stormy, which we are now observing, it is hardly possible to seriously consider specific options for overcoming this crisis and ensuring a full Nagorno-Karabakh settlement, "he added.

              RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20181102/1532013947.html

              With a diplomatic translation, this means that serious disasters await Armenia.
    4. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 2 November 2018 01: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Yujanin
      Armenia will become first a country in a world where a democratic government will function without opposition

      Second. The first is Belarus. laughing
    5. Armen
      Armen 2 November 2018 17: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Yujanin
      Why do you call Pashinyan - king?
      In this period of time, Pashinyan creates a one-party parliament in Armenia. It is not good. But there are positive aspects to this story. Armenia will become the first country in the world where a democratic government will function without opposition laughing
      Therefore, I propose to replace the expression "king" previously used with respect to Pashinyan by the word "dictator" laughing

      hahahaha, about democracy, one-party system, the tsar-sultan verbs the Turks from Absheron ????? The creature in the papakha looks first at his sultanate. Though he would cover his "intellect" in this topic, the lamb stinks terribly.
  2. Armen
    Armen 2 November 2018 17: 18 New
    0
    genisis there is now a joint Inquisition against Armenia. Operation Fas. It does not matter who we have there, what and how it does. Main Fas.
  • Seal
    Seal 2 November 2018 14: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: NEXUS
    Is this Armenian king not the same art work of the USA? No?

    And the previous one, what wasn’t there?
    Sargsyan is the first and so far the only foreign President awarded the US Medal of Honor "For the Development of Bilateral Relations between the US and a Foreign Power." In the case of Sargsyan, “For the Development of Bilateral Relations between the USA and Armenia” during his visit to the USA in 2011.
    What, for beautiful eyes Sargsyan hung a medal?
  • Yodzakura
    Yodzakura 1 November 2018 21: 36 New
    +1
    You look at the map. Armenia does not even border Russia, and this ally needs to be defended more.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 1 November 2018 23: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Yodzakura
      You look at the map Armenia does not even border Russia

      Thanks God! It is good that during the collapse of the Union, most of the former republics do not border with us ...
  • genisis
    genisis 1 November 2018 20: 10 New
    -3
    Danger for whom?

    For us danger is a moot point

    Do you think that there is no danger for the Russian Federation if the country in which the Russian military base is located becomes a springboard for Russia's geopolitical adversary? That's for sure - a moot point.
    I'm not sure for Baku either

    For Baku, Armenia’s withdrawal under the American protectorate is similar to death. If Armenia chooses a pro-American development vector, and moreover, places a US military base on its territory, then Karabakh will not only be recognized, but Azerbaijan will also be divided into its constituents: Lezgistan, Avarstan, Talysh-Mugan and the Baku region. The border with the Armenian states will pass along the Kura River.
    True, for the development of such a scenario, it is also necessary that the faithful US footman, Turkey, betray her Master, but so far Turkey is only pretending.
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    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 1 November 2018 20: 38 New
      +6
      Quote: genisis
      but Azerbaijan will also be divided into its constituents: Lezgistan, Avarstan, Talysh-Mugan and Baku region. The border with the Armenian states will pass along the Kura River.

      wah, what plans)) well, at least they will not disappear and oil will remain)))
    3. Ramil Agayev
      Ramil Agayev 1 November 2018 20: 49 New
      +4
      You have an incredible fantasy, I even envy you a little. You would make a great prose writer writing children's fairy tales.
    4. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 1 November 2018 22: 02 New
      +5
      Quote: genisis
      For Baku, Armenia’s withdrawal under the American protectorate is similar to death. If Armenia chooses a pro-American development vector, and moreover, places a US military base on its territory, then Karabakh will not only be recognized, but Azerbaijan will also be divided into its constituents: Lezgistan, Avarstan, Talysh-Mugan and the Baku region. The border with the Armenian states will pass along the Kura River.

      Finding the largest US air base in BV in Qatar did not save the latter from isolation and blockade of its neighbors ...
      1. genisis
        genisis 1 November 2018 22: 19 New
        -2
        If neighbors mean the closest ally of the United States - Saudi Arabia, then a much finer scenario was chosen there. It’s just that Turkey, another close ally of the United States, took Qatar under protection a little, while earning a good margin on it. With the knowledge of the United States, of course. Maybe you think that Qatar lost in this confrontation with KSA? If so, can you briefly describe what Qatar's loss is?
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 1 November 2018 22: 30 New
          0
          Quote: genisis
          If neighbors mean the closest ally of the United States - Saudi Arabia, then a much finer scenario was chosen there. It’s just that Turkey, another close ally of the United States, took Qatar under protection a little, while earning a good margin on it. With the knowledge of the United States, of course.

          IRI took Qatar under protection a little, also with the knowledge of the USA?
          Maybe you think that Qatar lost in this confrontation with KSA? If so, can you briefly describe what Qatar's loss is?

          The closure of the border, the economic blockade, the same products have to be imported only by aircraft and ships ....
          1. genisis
            genisis 1 November 2018 22: 45 New
            -2
            So after all, the cunning Qatar, on the basis of friendship with the IRI, quarreled with the KSA. However, it was Turkey that protected Qatar from military encroachments in his direction. You know, in much poorer than Qatar, the Magadan region and without closing borders and blockades, products are also imported only by ships and planes, and nothing.
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 1 November 2018 22: 56 New
              0
              Quote: genisis
              So after all, the cunning Qatar, on the basis of friendship with the IRI, quarreled with the KSA.

              Think?
              Several Arab countries, including Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the UAE, made statements on Monday about breaking off diplomatic relations with Qatar. The small but extremely ambitious gas monarchy was accused of supporting terrorist organizations and fomenting regional conflicts. In reality, what is happening is a reaction, which is not the first, to Qatar’s political behavior related to the fact that this country seeks to develop relations with Iran, said Grigory KOSACH, doctor of historical sciences, professor of the Russian State Humanitarian University. - Which, on the one hand, contradicts the point of view of other members of the Gulf Cooperation Council. And on the other hand, Qatar has long been a place where (as in London to a certain extent) are representatives of all opposition movements in the Arab world - from the Muslim Brotherhood to Hamas and Syrian Islamic organizations. And this causes extreme discontent of both the Gulf states and Egypt (since there are still some prominent figures of the Muslim Brotherhood movement in Qatar). This is not a new phenomenon: in 2014, similar events had already occurred (then Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the UAE recalled their ambassadors from Doha - “MK”). But then it was less painful: only the ambassadors recalled. Today, everything is much more serious. This is an attempt to stop Qatar and make it follow the path that other Gulf states are taking.

              https://www.mk.ru/politics/2017/06/05/araby-protiv-katara-v-chem-prichina-razryva-diplomaticheskikh-otnosheniy.html
              You know, in much poorer than Qatar, the Magadan region and without closing borders and blockades, products are also imported only by ships and planes, and nothing.

              I wish I were such a beggar ...
              Mineral, water and forest resources of the Magadan region. The region is one of the largest regions of Russia in terms of potential mineral resources. The region is traditionally associated with a high level of mining of precious and non-ferrous metals: more than 11% of explored alluvial gold, 15% of ore gold and about 50% silver of the total explored reserves of these metals in Russia are concentrated on its territory. Predicted resources are 3-6 times higher than proven reserves.

              The gold mining industry dominates the industrial structure. Its share in total production is more than 60%.

              The industry development strategy provides for a gradual reorientation of the mining industry to the extraction of ore gold from primary deposits while maintaining the production of alluvial gold at a level that ensures stabilization and growth of total production in the region. The need for structural transformations in the industry is due to significant proven reserves of gold from indigenous deposits in the territory, depletion of alluvial gold reserves with a content that ensures the profitability of its mining in the current economic conditions.
              In addition, the total recoverable reserves of the North Okhotsk shelf are 1,4–2,5 billion tons of oil and 2,7–4,5 trillion cubic meters of gas condensate. Currently, preparations are underway for an open international competition for the right to search, exploration and production of oil offshore.
              The region has significant reserves and forecast resources of other minerals: used, planned for use, unclaimed in the current economic conditions. These include deposits of coal and brown coal, non-ferrous and precious metals: silver - 17 silver deposits, tin - 37, tungsten - 1, polymetals (lead, zinc) - 4, copper.

              http://xn--80aa2bkafhg.xn--p1ai/9829/Mineralnie-vodnie-i-lesnie-resursi-Magadanskoy-oblasti
              With a person who insults my country I can’t conduct a discussion anymore, perhaps on the street ............, for that ...
              1. genisis
                genisis 1 November 2018 23: 08 New
                +3
                Did I offend Russia? What he called the Magadan region a beggar? You only read about it on the Internet, but I lived there for 26 years. And do not tell me about her wealth. It is better to discover that throughout the territory of the Magadan region, which is territorially several times larger than France, there is only one city - Magadan, in which 90 thousand people live. And, excuse me, I forgot about Susuman, which seems to be also a city, with a population of 5 thousand people. I cited the Magalan region as an example, because, unlike Qatar, it has been supplied with sea and air from its very foundation.
                And I don’t need to blame the insult to Russia, you just do not want to hear your opponent, considering him dumber than you. So the dialogue will not work. And on the street I have nothing to do with you, a soldier will not offend a child.
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 1 November 2018 23: 18 New
                  +3
                  Quote: genisis
                  and I lived there for 26 years. And do not tell me about her wealth. It’s better to discover that throughout the territory of the Magadan region, which is territorially several times larger than France, there is only one city - Magadan, in which 90 thousand people live. Oh, sorry, I forgot about Susuman, which seems to be also a city with a population of 5 thousand people.

                  We agree that you are an Armenian troll ...

                  And on the street I have nothing to do with you, a soldier will not offend a child.

                  Do not bury yourself, it's you, Mr., and on the street ....
                  And I don’t need to blame the insult to Russia, you just do not want to hear your opponent, considering him dumber than you.

                  I already read what you wrote in the comments on this article ... and I'm talking to you that you managed to hold out here for 5 years ...
                2. genisis
                  genisis 1 November 2018 23: 26 New
                  -2
                  Would you still look on the Internet that the Magadan Region and the Chukotka Autonomous Region are two separate regions of the Russian Federation a long time ago.
                  And the fact that you are the smartest is now clear even without words. So pass by, good man, pass by.
                3. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 1 November 2018 23: 29 New
                  +2
                  Quote: genisis
                  So pass by, good man, pass by.

                  Come and you, about the good, I agree, and many use it here ...
                4. genisis
                  genisis 2 November 2018 00: 03 New
                  -3
                  Well at least they don’t use the fact that a man has a female nickname
                5. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 2 November 2018 00: 18 New
                  -1
                  Quote: genisis
                  Well at least they don’t use the fact that a man has a female nickname

                  What is so bad with women that you pulled on a female nickname?
                6. genisis
                  genisis 2 November 2018 00: 22 New
                  -4
                  Everyone is better than yours))
                7. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 2 November 2018 00: 24 New
                  +1
                  Quote: genisis
                  Everyone is better than yours))

                  How do you know how much better I have than yours?
                8. genisis
                  genisis 2 November 2018 00: 29 New
                  -3
                  Yes, this can be seen in your peremptory and stupid comments. What value is the reasoning of a citizen of the Russian Federation who does not even know that Chukotka and the Magadan region. - These are two different subjects of the Russian Federation. And while you still take to talk about Qatar, Iran, KSA, Armenia and others. Well, what can you say?
                9. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 2 November 2018 00: 31 New
                  0
                  Quote: genisis
                  Yes, this can be seen in your peremptory and stupid comments.

                  Well, you have confirmed that:
                  Quote: Lara Croft
                  Quote: genisis
                  Everyone is better than yours))

                  How do you know how much better I have than yours?

                  You don’t read the comments at all, just unsubscribe mechanically, goodbye not a cough ...
                10. genisis
                  genisis 2 November 2018 00: 37 New
                  -3
                  goodbye no cough ...

                  Did you even attend school?
                  Cough, write cough correctly!
                  Russia has one serious problem - the presence of a large number of low-skilled, but highly motivated people, like you.
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 2 November 2018 00: 30 New
    +3
    The Magadan region is smaller than France. You obviously mixed up a little with the giant Yakutia or the Krasnoyarsk Territory.
  • genisis
    genisis 2 November 2018 00: 51 New
    -3
    Right Only 2/3 from France. Thanks for the clarification.
  • 23424636
    23424636 1 November 2018 19: 39 New
    +12
    we can get Pashinyan in the form of the tandem Grigyan (Tymoshenko) and Avakov (Bachinsky A.) in the next election. Nobody knows where he will lead, but Grigyan’s release from the Kachanovsky colony by Kolomoisky’s call to his debtor Kernes, the mayor of Kharkov, is illegal through no procedural steps without a court decision was one of the main reasons for the Ukrainian Maidan in 2014. Yanukovych in vain contacted this Armenian spill of the Jewish people - they shot him from Donbass and put the country under Jewish external control.
    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 13 New
      -1
      Grigyan (Tymoshenko)

      Jewish Timoshenko has nothing to do with the Armenians, unlike Avakov.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 1 November 2018 20: 35 New
        +11
        Quote: genisis
        Jewish Timoshenko has nothing to do with the Armenians, unlike Avakov.

        Maiden name of Yulia Tymoshenko Grigyan. Yulia was born in Dnepropetrovsk on 27 on November 1960 in the family of Vladimir Abramovich Grigyan and Lyudmila Nikolaevna Telegin. yes
        1. genisis
          genisis 1 November 2018 21: 24 New
          -4
          At the end of August 2005, the media reported that fellow countryman Yulia Vladimirovna Evgeny Alfredovich Chervonenko, who had never denied his Jewish origin, publicly stated that Tymoshenko was Jewish. Naturally, the press service of the "Fatherland" was forced to make a response statement, which stated that the father of Yulia Vladimirovna was Latvian and her mother was Ukrainian. Subsequently, this was confirmed by Tymoshenko herself, specifying that her father was “Latvian along his line to the hundredth knee.” True, then she limited this information to the tenth elbow. About her maiden name, Tymoshenko said that earlier she sounded like Grigyas or Grigyanis, but during the communist regime and because of repressions, the letter “c” at the end of the word was replaced by “n” and As a result, it turned into Grigyan.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 1 November 2018 22: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: genisis
            At the end of August 2005, a message appeared in the media that the fellow countryman Yulia Vladimirovna Yevgeny Alfredovich Chervonenko, who had never denied his Jewish origin, publicly stated

            The fence is also the media, and on it many say.
            Vladimir Grigyan went to school in 1945. In high school, he was admitted to the Komsomol. After the 10 class, he went to work at the Dnepropetrovsk confectionery factory as a simple worker. At the same time he studied at the evening department of the Dnepropetrovsk Chemical-Technological Institute, but in every possible way sought to transfer to a full-time department. This fact is confirmed by a letter from the military commissar of Dnepropetrovsk addressed to the director of the Dnepropetrovsk Chemical-Technological Institute sent on November 2 on November 1955 No. FD 11958 which said:

            “At the evening department of the institute entrusted to you, the son of the deceased soldier is studying Grigyan Vladimir Abramovich, 1937 year of birth. I ask, as an exception, to transfer him from evening to day care. ”

            Apparently, the case was not resolved positively. Such a conclusion allows us to make an order of the rector of the Dnepropetrovsk Chemical-Technological Institute No. 389 from 27 on September 1956:

            "The student of the 1 course of the group 1-П-1 evening faculty Grigyan V.A. to expel from the number of students, as such, that did not return from summer vacation. Reason: resolution of the dean of the evening and correspondence faculties - A. Petrovsky. ”Signed. 25.09.1956

            There is also a certificate issued by the Dnepropetrovsk regional military registration and enlistment office from 1 September 1955, which states that Vladimir Abramovich Grigyan was an orphan, and his father (grandfather of Yulia Vladimirovna) died during the war.
            So her father is more likely an Armenian Jew, or a Jewish Armenian. wink
            1. genisis
              genisis 1 November 2018 22: 21 New
              -3
              So I ask that the grandfather of Julia, whose name was Abram - was he Armenian Abram Grigyan? )))
              Well then, it’s funny.
        2. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 1 November 2018 22: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          Julia was born in the city of Dnepropetrovsk on November 27, 1960 in the family of Vladimir Abramovich Grigyan and Lyudmila Nikolaevna Telegin. (completely bald

          If she were still born without eyes. Eyes and mouth ... It would be generally wonderful! [I] [/ i] smile
  • Tersky
    Tersky 1 November 2018 19: 41 New
    +10
    Quote: NEXUS
    We can get another Poroshenko, only already in Armenia.

    Andrei hi , You can safely send congratulations to Armenian "friends", they received it. yes Anti-Russian slogans, the persecution of pro-Russian people, dissatisfaction with the Russian base in Gyumri, a desire to make changes in its status, an incident with the Russian military in the village of Panik, “mask shows” on the South Caucasus Railway, the arrest of ex-president Robert Kocharian, criminal proceedings against the main Russian man military block - CSTO Yuri Khachaturov. Doesn't it remind you of anything?
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 1 November 2018 19: 49 New
      +10
      Quote: Tersky
      Doesn’t it remind of anything?

      Victor, hi. hi So I'm not talking about the same thing? They produce Poroshenko like cockroaches. At the same time, beating us clean in OUR TERRITORY. But we are a Great Power. Significantly silent, and express another protest at the UN.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 1 November 2018 19: 57 New
        +10
        Quote: NEXUS
        They produce Poroshenko like cockroaches.

        Well, the location of the incubator is not worth voicing, the whole world is in the know.
        Quote: NEXUS
        Significantly silent, and express another protest at the UN.

        The UN, unfortunately, has become a club with the well-known brand "PPR", and I see what awaits its fate "League of Nations"
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 2 November 2018 09: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Tersky
          I see what awaits his fate "League of Nations"

          +100500 Rapidly rolls to this. It was created based on the results of WWII, which has been revised several times and the alignment of forces is completely different. It means war again.
    2. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 22 New
      -2
      persecution of pro-Russian people

      Who, where, when, and specifically targeted or pursued?
      dissatisfaction with the Russian base in Gyumri, a desire to make changes in its status, an incident with the Russian military in the village of Panik

      What kind of "dissatisfaction with the Russian base and a desire to make changes to its status"? Where is it from?
      Incident with the Russian military in a. Panic. May I ask you, did you follow the further development of this incident? Who was punished for his unprofessional actions as a result of the audit base conducted by the leadership? Or was base management 102 worse than you able to figure out a question?
      "mask show" on SCR, the arrest of ex-president Robert Kocharian, the initiation of a criminal case against the main man of the Russian military bloc - CSTO Yuri Khachaturov

      These are really links of one chain. Only you see in this an anti-Russian trace, instead of seeing what really stood behind these events. Robert Kocharian is the man who created that oligarchic economic system that has sucked blood from so poor Armenia since the early 2000s. Robert Kocharian is a dollar billionaire whose money would be enough to give an impetus to the development of an entire country if this money were invested in the country. Yuri Khachaturov is a loyal dog of Kocharian, who happened to be in the leadership of the CSTO. And its criminal! the persecution has nothing to do with Russia. If he had raped young children, he also could not be held accountable, because he is the chairman of the CSTO?
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 1 November 2018 21: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: genisis
        Only you see in this an anti-Russian trace,

        The fact of criminal prosecution in the post-Soviet space of people of this level looks from the point of view of Russia as a dangerous precedent. Ukraine is an example of this. On the anti-Russian trail, I already wrote that only the Open Society-Armenia (Soros Foundation) alone and the Armenian Time newspaper, which belongs to Pashinyan, are enough. On the website of this fund you can find specific figures and details of grants that were allocated to the newspaper. And where to “throw out” Pashinyan’s flirting with the West, his desire to arrange a meeting with Trump, the presence at the NATO summit in Brussels, the participation of Armenia in NATO exercises in Georgia? Goes to Moscow, assures that Armenia is a "close" ally and partner of Russia, and with its practical actions does everything that is absolutely not perceived in Russia.
        1. genisis
          genisis 1 November 2018 22: 26 New
          -4
          Tell me, does the fact of the presence in the CSTO leadership of a person who is pursuing a criminal past not look dangerous from a Russian point of view? Khachaturov, by the way, is likely to be recalled by the Armenians. Having lost, unfortunately, the post of chairman. And as soon as the Armenians recalled Khachaturov, thanks to which his criminal prosecution would not cast a shadow on the Organization, there would no longer be anything to do with Yura Khachaturov. And hardly anyone at all will remember him in Russia, except, perhaps, for brothers in Afghanistan.
      2. Yujanin
        Yujanin 1 November 2018 21: 25 New
        +5
        Robert Kocharian is the man who created that oligarchic economic system that has sucked blood from so poor Armenia since the early 2000s.

        Where does such a conclusion come from? But did the special investigative service of Armenia, which conducts the Kocharyan case, cite specific facts of Kocharian’s corruption? Are there any links on this issue or is this your next idle talk?
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  • APASUS
    APASUS 1 November 2018 19: 57 New
    +3
    Quote: ANCIENT
    In my opinion, this round is won by the USA, I hope that not the whole battle, but only one round ...

    We’ll wait and see, although the Americans have not yet directly stated their goals, although it’s already clear that they need a war! Pashinyan marks for the role of the local Gorbachev, and so far he has succeeded. The question is only in tactics, in principle, the Americans do not care who will lead Armenia, the main thing was their man.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 1 November 2018 18: 46 New
    +6
    the situation for Armenia is actually amazing: a person not only took power into his own hands in the wake of street protests, but also in the shortest possible time put in a certain position all the political elites of the republic. Having announced his de jure resignation from the post of prime minister and remaining in the same post de facto, Pashinyan made an offer to the parliament, which he ultimately could not refuse ...

    The message from Pashinyan is “democratically” simple: I present myself as a candidate for the post of prime minister - and either you support me, and I again become prime minister, or I dissolve the parliament, and already the new parliament confirms my unallocated candidacy for the premiership.

    This is called a simple word-patch. And again, our foreign policy lost to US policy. Everything would be fine, but only a wedge is driven into our military alliance with Armenia.
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 1 November 2018 19: 03 New
      +4
      But is not a “putsch” obliged to lie in the prepared political space and protest mood? Did we support Sargsyan and did not see who he was? We were always going to maintain this republic, which, under the guise of a customs union, received only dividends, to recall how much we put there weapons, and on credit against the guarantee of a military base, and here it is a sad result (((.
      1. Machito
        Machito 1 November 2018 19: 32 New
        +2
        If the United States takes away Armenia from us, we will have to return Azerbaijan.
        1. mariusdeayeraleone
          mariusdeayeraleone 1 November 2018 20: 22 New
          0
          And how do you think you have to return?
        2. genisis
          genisis 1 November 2018 20: 25 New
          -6
          If the United States takes away Armenia from us, we will have to return Azerbaijan.

          If the US takes away Armenia, there will be nothing to return from Azerbaijan.
      2. genisis
        genisis 1 November 2018 20: 24 New
        -3
        contain this republic which, under the guise of a customs union, received only dividends, to recall how much we put there weapons, and on credit under the guarantee of the military base

        Where do you get this ?????
        The agreement on the deployment of a Russian military base on the territory of Armenia until 2040 was prolonged until a loan for the purchase of weapons was allocated, which in any case will be returned by Armenia.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 2 November 2018 00: 21 New
          +2
          Quote: genisis
          contain this republic which, under the guise of a customs union, received only dividends, to recall how much we put there weapons, and on credit under the guarantee of the military base

          Where do you get this ?????
          The agreement on the deployment of a Russian military base on the territory of Armenia until 2040 was prolonged until a loan for the purchase of weapons was allocated, which in any case will be returned by Armenia.

          In 3040, apparently ...
          1. genisis
            genisis 2 November 2018 00: 25 New
            -3
            Interest and conditions are specified in the contract. As far as I remember, the agreement is in the public domain. Find it, read it. Although you can continue to thresh under the most intelligent in the village
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    2. The Siberian barber
      The Siberian barber 1 November 2018 19: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      the situation for Armenia is actually amazing: a person not only took power into his own hands in the wake of street protests, but also in the shortest possible time put in a certain position all the political elites of the republic. Having announced his de jure resignation from the post of prime minister and remaining in the same post de facto, Pashinyan made an offer to the parliament, which he ultimately could not refuse ...

      The message from Pashinyan is “democratically” simple: I present myself as a candidate for the post of prime minister - and either you support me, and I again become prime minister, or I dissolve the parliament, and already the new parliament confirms my unallocated candidacy for the premiership.

      This is called a simple word-patch. And again, our foreign policy lost to US policy. Everything would be fine, but only a wedge is driven into our military alliance with Armenia.

      ..and, once again, we lost “on our field” ((
      .. They will slowly squeeze us out of Gyumri, intensify the escalation in Karabakh, and the "views" of Iran from this region. Through Poti, you can muddy the base
      1. genisis
        genisis 1 November 2018 20: 28 New
        -1
        They will slowly squeeze us out of Gyumri, intensify the escalation in Karabakh

        No one will squeeze a Russian base out of Gyumri. I would be grateful if you could describe the real scenario, how this can happen and what will replace the Russian defense against the Turkish bayonet to the Armenians? If you are considering the development of events in which Turkey ceases to be a faithful lackey of the United States, then this is too simplistic and premature forecasting of events.
    3. lukewarm
      lukewarm 2 November 2018 09: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      again, our foreign policy lost to US policy

      IMHO foreign policy is a projection of power. Objectively, the US is stronger. At least by the fact that they themselves print the world currency, for which they buy everyone and everything. Not only in Armenia. In Russia itself.
  • Egorovich
    Egorovich 1 November 2018 18: 47 New
    +3
    He wants to quickly go under America and continue to fool Russia - that’s all Pashinyan.
  • Yuri T.
    Yuri T. 1 November 2018 18: 48 New
    +1
    Something processes are going on there are some kind of gray-muddy. No one is aware of the role of our base and the systems that are based there?
    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 29 New
      -2
      No one is aware of the role of our base and the systems that are based there?

      There is a whole page on the VKontakte social network dedicated to the role, systems, and even the boys who are based there)) You can take a look if you are interested.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 1 November 2018 18: 54 New
    +2
    I don’t understand how he is going to talk with the Turks? and indeed, how does this fountazer_poser see a solution to the Karabakh problem through some kind of “consolidation”? Yes, consolidate at least three times a day in three rows_ just get out of the shadow of the RF_ crush!
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 1 November 2018 19: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: newbie
      I don’t understand how he is going to talk with the Turks? and indeed, how does this fountazer_poser see a solution to the Karabakh problem through some kind of “consolidation”? Yes, consolidate at least three times a day in three rows_ just get out of the shadow of the RF_ crush!

      A little more, and this post-election euphoria (“I’ll quickly ruin everything - I swear by my mother”) will pass and Pashinyan will begin daily routine work to stabilize the situation in the country, and international politics is dangerous like a snake. yes
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 1 November 2018 20: 21 New
        +6
        Gene, if you take into account how Poroshenko lay down under America and what came of it, then Pashinyan’s moves and their results are quite expected. They don’t give a damn about the people. And again, the next "compatriots" will rush to us, whom we will be "incredibly happy."
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 2 November 2018 09: 37 New
          +2
          Quote: Rusland
          again the next "compatriots" will pour in to us

          To that extent they will not flood. 1. There are fewer than Ukrainians. 2. Difficult to get. 3. Many who wanted are already here and live better than us.
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 2 November 2018 09: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: Rusland
          Gene, if you take into account how Poroshenko lay down under America and what came of it, then Pashinyan’s moves and their results are quite expected. They don’t give a damn about the people. And again, the next "compatriots" will rush to us, whom we will be "incredibly happy."

          Good morning, Vitaliy hi . You're right, not a few will come to Russia. Enough space. Therefore, it is necessary to conduct communications (electricity, gas, water ...), and subsequently develop the infrastructure in uninhabited places. The problem is that everyone wants only to Moscow.
    2. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 30 New
      -2
      just get out of the shadow RF_ crush

      What prevents consolidation in the shadow of the Russian Federation? )))
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 1 November 2018 20: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: newbie
      I don’t understand how he is going to talk with the Turks?

      but you’re less serious in reading these articles. The author slammed and mixed up EVERYTHING !!! Turkey closed the border not because of the issue of genocide, but because of Karabakh !!! Or rather it was closed at the moment when the Armenians began the occupation of the territories around Nagorny Karabakh 7 districts.
      In principle, the terms of the negotiations are simple. Armenians must leave at least 5 out of 7 districts in order for Turkey to open borders. But the Armenians are not fools so that, in order to open borders with Turkey and by the way with Azerbaijan, they should also aggravate the situation of their army at the front by giving 5 districts.
      Quote: newbie
      yes, consolidate at least three times a day in three rows_ just get out of the shadow of the RF_ crush!

      Yes, everyone will simply sign a peace treaty in which Azerbaijani refugees return, 7 districts return, Nagorno-Karabakh receives full autonomy and its police and army, etc. Then yes.
      But this is all from a series of fiction, the people of Armenia are not ready for this, and Russia will not allow this conflict to be resolved like that.
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 1 November 2018 20: 54 New
        0
        genisis, read what Yeraz writes, maybe you will understand what I wanted to convey.
        Yeraz, well, I agree with the first part of your comment. It is on this basis that I don’t understand what to talk about with the Turks. but the second part of your comment is tempting - do you yourself believe in what you wrote?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 2 November 2018 02: 30 New
          0
          Quote: newbie
          but the second part of your comment is tempting - do you yourself believe in what you wrote?

          in general, regarding the second part, I summarized that it was from the FANTASTIC series. Even if sincerely the authorities of the countries are ready to try on examples they hate each other and this is not because the central TVs of both countries talk about it, but the hostility is deeper.
      2. Armen
        Armen 2 November 2018 19: 57 New
        0
        I welcome you, Regards. I often read your comments. And I want to say that of the entire local brotherhood of “experts” in geopolitics from Absheron, from a country “union” with us, you are the most adequate person. If you subtract your objective “love” about mine country, then you Eraz actually more accurately represent this topic, and more objective and fair, given your understandable hostility to my country. It is interesting to read your opinions, your opinions about us and your point of view about hostility between our countries .Without the fanatical, brainless, pathos-deceitful propaganda that your relatives resort to. hi
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 2 November 2018 23: 31 New
          0
          Quote: Armen
          Greetings, Regards.

          Mutually.
          Quote: Armen
          Without the fanatically-brainless, pathos-deceitful propaganda that your relatives resort to.

          Well, in this perspective, and yours have resorted a lot. The emotional background and proving your dolma does not make sense. You have to really assess the situation, sitting ridiculous for me is ridiculous.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 1 November 2018 18: 55 New
    +1
    Armenia objectively needs Russia than Russia - Armenia. Let the loans be returned and goodbye ...
    1. wax
      wax 1 November 2018 19: 44 New
      +3
      Russia objectively needs the Caucasus.
    2. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 31 New
      -2
      Let the loans be returned and goodbye ...

      What a fast you are)))
      So you say goodbye to all Russian influence.
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 1 November 2018 22: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: genisis
        Let the loans be returned and goodbye ...

        What a fast you are)))
        So you say goodbye to all Russian influence.

        There is a Russian Donbass. There is a duty to our people ... But the Armenians made their choice: they will build a state according to Soros and Friedman.
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 2 November 2018 09: 41 New
          0
          Quote: samarin1969
          build a state according to Soros and Friedman.

          Duck and in the Russian Federation they have not yet been sent to the dump of history. What is our state built on?
  • KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 1 November 2018 18: 57 New
    +2
    . And Pashinyan previously called these goals the establishment of relations with Europe without disagreement with Russia. A cunning multi-vector approach or a real desire to make Armenia more prosperous in economic and military-political terms?
    Sitting in half in two chairs at once cannot be long - you have to choose anyway. There are many examples of this, starting with folk wise sayings and ending with the real historical results of the activities of such cunning characters ...
  • masterovoy
    masterovoy 1 November 2018 19: 00 New
    +1
    ... others see in Pashinyan an opportunist who is ready to trade interests, right up to the "surrender" of Karabakh ...
    Never considered Armenians a stupid people, do they really not see their “end” supporting this adventurer?
    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 33 New
      -1
      Never considered Armenians a stupid people, do they really not see their “end” supporting this adventurer?

      Thank you for not considering the Armenians stupid. Believe me, they are not stupid now. You can write a script for this very "end". Maybe the Armenians see something that you did not pay attention to?
      1. masterovoy
        masterovoy 2 November 2018 15: 03 New
        +2
        I believe that it is not necessary to describe the scenario of the “end”, examples of which are more than enough in the current history of world coexistence. There are many of them in the comments to this article.
        You are obviously a democrat, and democracy in reality is the power of demagogues leading people in accordance with their values, the philosopher Plato taught. There can be no democracy - the power of the people, the people cannot rule on their own, because they are always great and careless, but there is demagogy about democracy, supposedly the power of the people, which hides the organizing role of the demagogue and his support group, or elite.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 1 November 2018 19: 02 New
    +1
    People tend to dream and make mistakes, so it was and will be!
    Only there is one time-tested circumstance, if the government, the leadership of the country has the support of MOST, nothing extreme can happen inside the country! And with the danger from the outside it will cope quite realistically.
    NOBODY went to the defense of the previous government, for people it was not a great loss!
    What will all this lead to ??? And FIG knows, it’s certainly not good, but ..... it’s their choice, if the country crashes as some others, it will be a crime of the previous government, to a greater extent than all others others ....
    Although, the former authorities, as a rule, suffer less than everyone else in their former country!
    In short, now only they themselves can drink what they were striving for.
    PS How all this is familiar! After all, nothing new! Rake, rake, rake!
    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 35 New
      -2
      Only there is one time-tested circumstance, if the government, the leadership of the country has the support of MOST, nothing extreme can happen inside the country! And with the danger from the outside it will cope quite realistically.

      Great words. Is this support of the MOST, which Pashinyan has, maybe a leader who does things that are harmful to his people?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 2 November 2018 05: 22 New
        +1
        I don’t know, will it be Danko, who leads his people to the Light? Or all the same, like Susanin, following which people will realize that they were led into a swamp!
        A statement of fact, lately everyone is slipping like the second!
        But people believe that it can’t be any worse !!!
        But it can!
        Time will tell. All the same, this is conditional, free choice!
      2. lukewarm
        lukewarm 2 November 2018 10: 38 New
        +2
        EBN in 1991 had the support of the majority. True, most of him still curses and belches the results of his reign. It's to
        Quote: genisis
        maybe a leader who does things to the detriment of his people?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 2 November 2018 11: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: unwillingly
          EBN in 1991 had the support of the majority.

          I know, I REMEMBER everything ... the truth is in the majority and then did not go.
          In the morning I did not have time to write that of us, the example teacher is far from the best.
          Do we have to give advice right and left! But people can’t be changed, and the log in his eye is recognized / realized, it’s not for everyone.
          I remind you about the RAKE, but I wish you all the best!
  • anjey
    anjey 1 November 2018 19: 07 New
    +4
    The parliament, refusing to Pashinyan twice in a row, eventually dissolved. And now Armenia is awaited by extraordinary parliamentary elections, the crown of which Nikol Pashinyan sees himself as a prime minister with a controlled majority in parliament.
    One can probably think by naivety that this child prodigy from politics is climbing to the top of the government himself, without strong external support from the West, how is the pro-Russian influence there, something completely faded and not expressive, against this background Russia is being squeezed out quietly, maybe it was necessary to help in due time to press the Pashinyans ??? Yankees do not shun dirt and blood in
    world politics and we try not to get dirty and please everyone ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 1 November 2018 19: 20 New
      +2
      Well, you can always go to the other side (especially since the Sultan is now his best friend and at the same time his best friend - the main enemy of the Armenians). Well, there Aliyev raises the flag above the Republic Square in Yerevan against the background of the T-90 and BMP-3 with the tacit support of the Russian Federation. Everyone is happy. Moreover, Aliyev’s money is fine, and oil is expensive again.
      1. genisis
        genisis 1 November 2018 20: 38 New
        -2
        Well, you can always go to the other side

        Do you know why the Russian military already back in 1992 already "crossed once to the other side"? Why did the Shamans who stormed Karabakh for Azerbaijan finish doing this by August 1992? Since then, the situation has not changed, but only worsened. Therefore, the union of the Russian and Armenian military is a little more than what you read in the newspapers.
    2. lukewarm
      lukewarm 2 November 2018 10: 40 New
      0
      Quote: anjey
      hell was to help in time to squeeze the Pashinyans

      In my opinion, we didn’t figure out with our bulk members where to help squeeze there!
  • dr.star75
    dr.star75 1 November 2018 19: 17 New
    -3
    The American democratic machine is dead! Pashinyan can not hold on to power. I thought more of him. Slack!
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 1 November 2018 19: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: dr.star75
      The American democratic machine is dead! Pashinyan can not hold on to power. I thought more of him. Slack!

      Pashinyan became the prime minister against the will of the parliament, and dual power was established in Armenia for half a year. Where the legislative power is in the hands of the opponents of Pashinyan and the executive power is in the hands of the associates of Pashinyan, this has been going on for half a year since spring. Backstage negotiations were evident these half a year, where Pashinyan supporters demanded the dissolution of the parliament through refusal to approve the prime minister twice and his dissolution with re-election as the procedure required. guarantees once the parliament was dissolved. Interestingly, users from Armenia do not comment on such materials at VO, although I think they need to do this despite the criticism and frank criticism of them, who are still just reading more adequate users to VO more than wrestlers.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 1 November 2018 19: 52 New
        0
        Well, in short, you yourself will figure out who is what and who is whom. Announce to us, who are you with?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 1 November 2018 20: 45 New
          0
          Quote: dr.star75
          Well, in short, you yourself will figure out who is what and who is whom. Announce to us, who are you with?

          With Azerbaijan, of course. Who else should be the Turkic-Muslim Kazakhstan?)))
      2. lukewarm
        lukewarm 2 November 2018 10: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Semurg
        Where the legislative power is in the hands of the opponents of Pashinyan and the executive power is in the hands of the associates of Pashinyan, it lasted half a year since spring.

        Painfully reminiscent of the confrontation in 1993 EBN and Sun. Unless it came to firing from tanks, they turned out to be smarter
      3. Armen
        Armen 2 November 2018 17: 39 New
        0
        Greetings to you. If I’m not mistaken, are you from Kazakhstan? Rakhmet for a NEUTRAL post. Therefore, we immediately understood that the whole point is in this notorious ATU-banyat, or delete comments if you don’t write in their mainstream. At what people write and comment, who are not at all in the topic of what, how and why all this happens and happened. But the State Department is dreaming of it everywhere. But the main thing is who they will rush at at the moment.
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  • bald
    bald 1 November 2018 19: 25 New
    +4
    I’ll say one thing - Armenians need work in Armenia, and not in other states. These are not my words, but the Armenians with whom I am contacting for work. They are a naive people, the ex-primier brought Armenia so (terrible corruption, everything is bought and sold) that they almost pray for Pashinyan. It is useless for them to say - you first see if it will be better, even if the Americans come to you - no, they say we are swamis, we don’t need Americans - and who will ask them. Many marry our women and live here permanently, while others buy apartments and register. But I don’t trust Pashinyan - no matter how Ukraine -2 fails - a similar situation, and the nature of the people is similar.
    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 20: 43 New
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      But I don’t trust Pashinyan - no matter how Ukraine -2 fails - a similar situation, and the nature of the people is similar.

      The situation is completely different. The events of 2014 happened in Ukraine due to the political orientation of the West or East, while in Armenia they dared to Sargsyan, because
      ex-primier brought Armenia like that (terrible corruption, everything is bought and sold)

      If in Ukraine Yanukovych had not been afraid to engage in a fight against radicals, the current state of Ukraine could have been avoided. Sargsyan left peacefully only because he saw that even the support of the authorities: the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Defense Ministry, was on the side of those who demanded his resignation. The change of power in Armenia has, first and foremost, economic reasons.
      As for character - also a moot point. What are the similarities? I know a lot of Ukrainians, I don’t see in what they would be like Armenians?
      1. bald
        bald 2 November 2018 02: 34 New
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        Perhaps so, the answer will be time, as if later we would not have to recall the "Scanners". We will judge Pashinyan’s affairs - I follow this very closely and often raise this issue in the Armenian team (I know a few hundred) while the reaction from them is positive, take a look half a year later, I ask - how has anything changed?
  • parusnik
    parusnik 1 November 2018 19: 30 New
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    You don’t cut crazy ideas hot: You need to hand Pashinyan a Russian passport .. or make an honorary citizen of the Russian Federation ... just like that ... Or at least offer one or the other ... before the parliamentary elections ... laughing
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          1. Yujanin
            Yujanin 1 November 2018 21: 33 New
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            And who do you think Kocharyan is? Snickers, maybe it will help!
            1. genisis
              genisis 1 November 2018 21: 37 New
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              You won’t even be snickered already))))
              The only one in Russian means one of all, one of many.
              Sargsyan is not the only ex-president in respect of whom no criminal case has been opened. Do you even need to explain such elementary things?
              1. Yujanin
                Yujanin 1 November 2018 21: 49 New
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                The only one in Russian means one of all, one of many.

                Two are not many?
                And then, Jensis, dear, maybe it’s not necessary to find fault with the words and clog the branch. You better tell firsthand how it happened that Pashinyan decided to free the terrorists from the "Tsrer pine"? Armed capture of a police regiment, the murder of 3 police officers and the holding of hostages of doctors in Armenia is not considered a crime ?. If we add to this the fact that these terrorists after the amnesty also created a party, then such chaos does not go into any gates. What kind of Somalia is this?
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                  1. Yujanin
                    Yujanin 1 November 2018 22: 45 New
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                    Calling you Shurochka, I do not mean that you are female. It’s just that it was written earlier in your profile that you are Shurik. And Shurochka is just a diminutive As for me, I'm male too.

                    So act like a man. Educated people do not behave familiarly. In any case, I did not behave unceremoniously in my appeals to you.
                    I have a counter question for you - Ramil Safarov is a killer or a hero? Or Ibad Huseynov?
                    They killed representatives of their people? Or did they go against their statehood? The motives here are different. No need to compare the incomparable!
                    1. genisis
                      genisis 1 November 2018 22: 51 New
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                      I apologize.
                      Just at the time of our first communication, it seemed to me that you are at the level of most visitors to Azerbaijan from Azerbaijan. But, I admit, sometimes it’s interesting to argue with you. I won’t troll you with my Shuroch anymore. However, you did not answer my question about Safarov and Ibad Huseynov. The question is quite simple. And in no way connected with Sasna Tsrer. Safarov is a killer or a hero?
                    2. genisis
                      genisis 2 November 2018 00: 08 New
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                      Gardash, your departure from the answer is more eloquent than the answer itself)
                      1. Yujanin
                        Yujanin 2 November 2018 00: 41 New
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                        I already answered your question above. As for Safarov, he did the right thing and killed the Armenian, who mocked our flag at NATO seminars. Moreover, because of the hostility of the Armenians, this person had to live in tents for 15 years as a refugee. Want to know if I consider Safarov's hero? I will answer that: Yes! If the Armenians are appointed the president of the country by the Khojaly executioner-Sargsyan, then why not reward Safarov? Evil begets evil. You in all your troubles should blame only yourself as the first duty. Normally lived with the Turks for millennia in side-by-side. But when the Entente began to crush the Turks, you betrayed them. Now the same thing is happening with Russia. As they saw that Russia was surrounded from all sides, they began to leave the ship in a hurry. Do you think the Russians have not studied history?
                      2. genisis
                        genisis 2 November 2018 01: 09 New
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                        And in my opinion, a vile night murder is always an abomination.
                        Tell me, did your country win the war unleashed against Ar'tsah? Not. Lost devastatingly. Lost 14% of its territory. Now tell me how many people you have become national heroes for that war? And how many Armenians? That is the whole difference. Ponte, money, market, trade, status - this is all that excites the Transcaucasian Tatars. Lezgins, Avars, Talysh are real fighters. Armenians have always respected those who lived on the other side of the Kura. And then came greedy, cunning, cruel, hypocritical and deceitful Turks. Come on frankly - how many successful sabotage on your part since April 2016? NONE! Before that, you used to try twice a month. And now they twitched three times - all three times the corpses were carried away. The Americans, of course, are so-so as a state, but they helped to equip the border with the Armenians. So you do not fuss. I don’t know how you have it in Azerbaijan, can we say aloud that in the zone of the Ar'tsakh Defense Army, led by Vitaly Balasanyan, the Armenian artillery dealt a good blow to your tank fist? You are aware that in Karabakh, due to the features of the terrain, there are not so many tank-dangerous directions. The Armenians hit one of them in April 2016. Therefore, it all ended so quickly. And the rest is your show off and throwing money. The difference, gardash, is that the Armenians will die for their homes, for their children, wives and mothers. And for what in Ar'tsakh a guy from Kusarov, Zakatal or Lankon will die? For your Transcarpathian phantom pains? Not a great honor.
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  • aleks056
    aleks056 1 November 2018 19: 49 New
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    Coups arise along our borders, and our main ones do nothing, for a couple of years, and there they will hate us like in Ukraine
  • Catfish
    Catfish 1 November 2018 20: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Yujanin
    Sargsyan is the only ex-president who has not been prosecuted.


    Not yet aroused. Maybe they just didn’t have time yet?
  • Dysindich
    Dysindich 1 November 2018 20: 07 New
    +1
    Forges or spins? (is he, in general, a blacksmith, a reaper, or a dude on a tambourine?)
  • kefan
    kefan 1 November 2018 20: 08 New
    +1
    Again, this pro-Amerian litter stirs water there am
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    1. mariusdeayeraleone
      mariusdeayeraleone 1 November 2018 20: 26 New
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      Does not work? Yes, everything is fine, but you ask more.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 1 November 2018 20: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Fedorov
      By azerbaijan

      Azerbaijan is correct.
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  • Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 November 2018 20: 14 New
    +2
    I would like to take a look at the sober-hopper of the whole country after Pashinyan.
    1. markomugurusa
      markomugurusa 1 November 2018 21: 05 New
      +1
      ))))))))) there will soon be nothing to watch)))))))) in the country, the real population, according to various estimates, is from one and a half to two lyam people with an official figure of 3 lyam. Turkey and Azerbaijan just walk towards each other and establish a new ideal border)))))) Well, we will leave the principle of Gyumri with Yerevan. We will agree with Erdogan and Aliyev quickly and without problems)))))
      1. Yujanin
        Yujanin 2 November 2018 00: 18 New
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        I suspect that this time an Azerbaijani security belt will appear on the territory of Armenia. After that, Armenia will have only one way out to the Russian Federation through Georgia, the road which does not work in winter time.
        1. genisis
          genisis 2 November 2018 00: 55 New
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          The fact that suspecting is the only thing left for you
          1. Yujanin
            Yujanin 2 November 2018 01: 01 New
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            You also jumped above your head in 1915 and thought that there would be no bolt and screw for your tricky antics.
            1. genisis
              genisis 2 November 2018 01: 19 New
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              But the Azerbaijanis, of course, found him, this bolt with a screw. Oh yes, I forgot, Azerbaijanis appeared only in 1936))))
              By the way, I don’t know if such a funny flashmob # older Azerbaijan caught you? If not, be sure to search the net, there is something to laugh about.
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                1. mariusdeayeraleone
                  mariusdeayeraleone 2 November 2018 09: 16 New
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                  You southerner get horny, the bag is correctly sewn, and the result will be on the face)))
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  • Safer
    Safer 1 November 2018 20: 17 New
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    How funny Let them save the USA. When there will be nothing to feed the children, then we'll see, but for now this is a bunch in a puddle.
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    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 21: 32 New
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      You broke your Turkish teeth about my dear Zangezur back in the early 20s.
      1. mariusdeayeraleone
        mariusdeayeraleone 2 November 2018 09: 17 New
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        Zangezur, the Bosch has nothing to do with you
      2. KURT330
        KURT330 2 November 2018 09: 47 New
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        For many Armenians, Baku is native, and Stavropol, and Paris, and Krasnodar ... AND WHAT? They became Armenian ???
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    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 21: 29 New
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      A sober description of the situation.
  • Astronaut
    Astronaut 1 November 2018 21: 33 New
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    In principle, it’s not so bad for us (Russia) if Pashinyan moves towards the USA, we will move towards Azerbaijan on the Nagorno-Karabakh issue and then Pashinyan will not last long, even with US support, because for Armenians, the issue of Nagorno-Karabakh is one of the most important and its "discharge" will end Pashinyan's street career!
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    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 21: 47 New
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      This is just an Azerbaijani fake account, created in order to write one or two such comments in topics about Armenia. Azerbaijani propaganda.
      1. Yujanin
        Yujanin 2 November 2018 01: 09 New
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        You have a lot of experience along the way. By the way, your page under the nickname Garnik was blocked, or the password was forgotten.
        1. genisis
          genisis 2 November 2018 01: 21 New
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          Garnik is Garnik. Maybe his page was blocked. I bet you squealed? )))
          1. Yujanin
            Yujanin 2 November 2018 09: 21 New
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            Garnik is Garnik. Maybe his page was blocked. I bet you squealed? )))


            So you yourself have aroused. I did not even suspect that for a few pages laughing
    2. wmn5500
      wmn5500 2 November 2018 01: 03 New
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      For Baku, Armenia’s withdrawal under the American protectorate is similar to death. If Armenia chooses a pro-American development vector, and moreover, places a US military base on its territory, then Karabakh will not only be recognized, but Azerbaijan will also be divided into its constituents: Lezgistan, Avarstan, Talysh-Mugan and the Baku region. The border with the Armenian states will pass along the Kura River.
      In your own words:
      Why are such comments allowed on a reputable site? Why are not deleted? But what about inciting ethnic hatred ???
    3. 22 dmdc
      22 dmdc 2 November 2018 15: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Victoria-In
      Why are such comments allowed on a reputable site? Why are not deleted? But what about inciting ethnic hatred ???

      Do not knock Madame.
  • KURT330
    KURT330 1 November 2018 22: 45 New
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    Quote: genisis
    Danger for whom?

    For us danger is a moot point

    Do you think that there is no danger for the Russian Federation if the country in which the Russian military base is located becomes a springboard for Russia's geopolitical adversary? That's for sure - a moot point.
    I'm not sure for Baku either

    For Baku, Armenia’s withdrawal under the American protectorate is similar to death. If Armenia chooses a pro-American development vector, and moreover, places a US military base on its territory, then Karabakh will not only be recognized, but Azerbaijan will also be divided into its constituents: Lezgistan, Avarstan, Talysh-Mugan and the Baku region. The border with the Armenian states will pass along the Kura River.
    True, for the development of such a scenario, it is also necessary that the faithful US footman, Turkey, betray her Master, but so far Turkey is only pretending.

    Now you count on mattress covers?))) You will only see the recognition of Karabakh in a dream! Do you really think that the Americans under the nose of Russia can vyzhivatsya here ?! It will be necessary Turkey and Azerbaijan will harness for Russia, but we will not let amers come here! Yes, there are some issues with Russia, but we think we will solve them painlessly for the peoples of our countries. Well, are you allies like, another lover on the horizon and delusions of Armenian greatness? Get treated Gena!
    1. genisis
      genisis 1 November 2018 22: 55 New
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      Don’t be so nervous.
      You perfectly understand that my scenario for Azerbaijan, in the case of the consolidation of the United States in Armenia, is written absolutely reliably. If you want, I can even throw you a map drawn by the Americans, how exactly Azerbaijan will be divided. But you have nothing to worry about as long as Turkey faithfully obeys the orders of the Master.
      Till...
  • Phoenix_L'vov
    Phoenix_L'vov 1 November 2018 22: 57 New
    +4
    It seems that Armenia is lost to Russia as well as Ukraine.
  • Crusader
    Crusader 1 November 2018 23: 02 New
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    I read most of the comments. Most of them have no justification for guessing, supposedly if the box is square, probably there is something round in it. And if round, probably yellow. And at the end, the statement that the box contains lemon
  • Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 2 November 2018 00: 08 New
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    Missed sand through your fingers.
    The next Belarus apparently. :(
    1. Cottager452
      Cottager452 2 November 2018 02: 42 New
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      Russia’s attitude towards Armenians (generally to Caucasians) is bad. They call it chocks and even worse. They sell arms to Azerbaijan. So there’s nothing to blame for America if its face is crooked. If I’m Russian, I’m from Taishet.
      1. the finish
        the finish 2 November 2018 08: 17 New
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        Thank you. Did someone write without emotion!
  • KURT330
    KURT330 2 November 2018 07: 48 New
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    Quote: genisis
    Don’t be so nervous.
    You understand very well that my scenario for Azerbaijan, in case the United States consolidates in Armenia

    Yeah, right now .. Here are Turkey, Russia and Azerbaijan sitting and waiting and watching how the USA will gain a foothold in Armenia! Well, at the expense of the drawing lesson, so our colors are brighter, not State Department ones that run off, we will draw you such that the ancient Armenian VanGog will envy laughing
  • Romanenko
    Romanenko 2 November 2018 08: 32 New
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    It is interesting what our emissaries are undertaking in this scenario, it is already known about Bolton and others, and Pashinyan did not just appear there, but we, again on the ideological front, are in the losers
  • Victoria-V
    Victoria-V 2 November 2018 08: 58 New
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    In losers - how diplomatic it is.
  • 1536
    1536 2 November 2018 10: 01 New
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    The Armenians will still benefit, they are everywhere at home.
  • Mgero34
    Mgero34 2 November 2018 12: 58 New
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    Etu statyu Po moemu napisala Leyla Alieva
  • SS-18 Satan
    SS-18 Satan 2 November 2018 13: 57 New
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    I will be shocked if the Armenians betray Russia. how much Russia has done for this people .. they are in unpaid debt.
  • KURT330
    KURT330 2 November 2018 16: 24 New
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    Quote: Seal
    Quote: NEXUS
    Is this Armenian king not the same art work of the USA? No?

    And the previous one, what wasn’t there?
    Sargsyan is the first and so far the only foreign President awarded the US Medal of Honor "For the Development of Bilateral Relations between the US and a Foreign Power." In the case of Sargsyan, “For the Development of Bilateral Relations between the USA and Armenia” during his visit to the USA in 2011.
    What, for beautiful eyes Sargsyan hung a medal?

    Petrovich welcome! It's been a while since you saw .. hi
  • Armen
    Armen 2 November 2018 17: 02 New
    +1
    Good evening everyone. Lord, as I understand it, in order to be trendy on this site, you just need to blindly repeat the local majority? And it turns out that they banyat you if you think not so .... On the topic, I understand that to be here " darlings, "you have to pour dirt on Armenia with and without dirt, because now you have a new enemy, Armenia. And all these experts are here, it turns out that the Armenians were so insolent that they did not ask permission from the Kremlin, changed their power. They want to hold elections, etc. .... Ordinary people dare to ask who and what they want? How so? So what, that thieves, criminals, bastards, most importantly they are about the Kremlin ... Gentlemen, answer who is next in line after Armenia? Tajikistan, dared to change military names what would they like, Kazakhstan, daring to change the alphabet ... And what will you eventually achieve? Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot, now you have a honeymoon-year with Erdogan and Ilham. Love you and happiness.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 2 November 2018 23: 36 New
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      Quote: Armen
      Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot, now you have a honeymoon-year with Erdogan and Ilham. Love you and happiness.

      it has nothing to do with it. Turks and Turkey are mostly hated in Russia. But they don’t care about Ilham and Azerbaijan. It’s just that the population of the Russian Federation has a pathological allergy to any form of protest. By the way, there are no big protests in Russia, although the people are very dissatisfied with the authorities in many respects. but any protest is assassinated with revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia and by the hand of the West and this complex is with 90% of the Russian population. There will be exactly the same reaction tomorrow at any point. It’s not in Armenia at all, but in phobias of the Russian population itself.
      1. Armen
        Armen 3 November 2018 19: 17 New
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        Good evening. About your spelling of Armenia with a small letter, your fellow countryman wrote to me somehow, does not honor you. I can also address you the same. But your business. Mutual "love" between our countries makes itself felt. Not I’m going to make a storm in a glass because of this. Well, about manic hatred in the Russian Federation for EVERYONE, without exception, with the competent presentation of the upper hand, it looks really wild for normal people from the outside. Unfortunately, in the bulk of people people still move at the direction from the top. Any, I repeat any dissent is accepted with hostility. Any attempt to demand something from the authorities is mistaken for the machinations of the cursed west. At once, the peoples become enemies culturally and historically living for centuries. It is the peoples who become enemies, and not the authorities. they’re a team, and Kazakhs, Tatars, even Belarusians will be declared enemies. There is a targeted harassment of all neighbors of the Russian Federation. And in all cases the first violin belongs to the officers. authorities. They changed power in Armenia (or at least somewhere), or somewhere else, without the VISIBLE (so far at least) body movement of foreign countries — NOT ONE foreign flag at rallies in Armenia, not one, not one. For some external obligations and there was no road back to agreements. And people are already raging here. Asks, what’s the matter, who in Armenia (or somewhere else) will rule the Armenians? Do you like your power, but for God's sake. If honestly it’s already sickening to just read. you, with the Turks, everything is clear, you are enemies, we know your claims, enmity, etc .. Well, with these ......
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 6 November 2018 21: 25 New
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          Quote: Armen
          About your spelling of Armenia with a small letter, your fellow countryman as he wrote to me does not honor you. I can also address you the same

          well for funny talk about honor between Armenians and Azerbaijanis.
          Quote: Armen
          And people are already raging here. The question is, what’s the matter for you, who in Armenia (or somewhere else) will rule the Armenians

          revolution = bad, revolution = rallies bought for money, revolution = arm of the West, revolution = against the Russian Federation. That's what people have))
  • KURT330
    KURT330 2 November 2018 17: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: Armen
    Good evening everyone. Lord, as I understand it, in order to be trendy on this site, you just need to blindly repeat the local majority? And it turns out that they banyat you if you think not so .... On the topic, I understand that to be here " darlings, "you have to pour dirt on Armenia with and without dirt, because now you have a new enemy, Armenia. And all these experts are here, it turns out that the Armenians were so insolent that they did not ask permission from the Kremlin, changed their power. They want to hold elections, etc. .... Ordinary people dare to ask who and what they want? How so? So what, that thieves, criminals, bastards, most importantly they are about the Kremlin ... Gentlemen, answer who is next in line after Armenia? Tajikistan, dared to change military names what would they like, Kazakhstan, daring to change the alphabet ... And what will you eventually achieve? Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot, now you have a honeymoon-year with Erdogan and Ilham. Love you and happiness.

    You started like normal, but rounded off like a true Aryan ... What murzik is Erdogan or Ilham here? And the fact that you write the name of Aliyev with a small letter does not do you any honor. Who loves whom and who is happy with whom is something like geopolitics already decides. If you are going to integrate towards the West, this does not mean that you are having an affair with the United States, geopolitics are forcing. But you don’t have to be malicious. You do not resettle the Armenians of Russia, which are more than 2 million in the United States, right? After all, they earn a living in Russia ?! This is Russia giving you weapons for free. What are we talking about? Do you clearly think that Russia will become at war with you over 150 million Turkic contingents in the post-Soviet space, purely on the basis that all the Turks are your enemies? What genocide is next? Why don’t you open the archives, have the Turks insisted on this for 50 years now? What are 1 Armenian victims of genocide ??? This is 500 burial sites for 000 people. Show ONE SUCH burial! You shamelessly appropriate everything from the elevator to the color TV. You have a mania of significance and high self-esteem. Laughter and sin ...
    1. Armen
      Armen 2 November 2018 19: 39 New
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      You hope that because of the eastern mentality — without excessive European etiquette — what neighbors (unfortunately)? About spelling the name of your sultan is fundamentally because of disrespect. I admit honestly. I can never respect a person who if his people are for the herd keeps, then what about the others? I respect Erdogan, albeit a greater enemy, and what he and his country really deserve respect for — even comparison is not appropriate with you — ELECTION of the authorities, democracy is several times more than in ANY country formerly. USSR (without exception). Brilliantly defends nat. interests of their country. And what does the topic of Genocide have to do with it? Don’t ask me about the TRUTH, but ask TENS of respected countries, scientists, textbooks. non-Armenian and non-Turkish establishments. That you are running in front of the engine, be patient for a couple of days, soon to the next slop in my country and it will pour in, then you will shine with your knowledge in history (ridiculously al). About geopolitics, I partially agree with you. not in spitefulness or envy. But in stating the facts. I don’t want to know more. And once again I repeat, advice and love between you. Such "allies" we wholeheartedly give in to you without regret.