And if they don’t take it, we’ll turn off the gas! Medvedev issued an ultimatum to the oilmen

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev made demands on oil companies because of the sharp rise in gasoline prices. Under the terms of the government "ultimatum" if the oil companies fail to agree, the government will block the possibility of exporting oil and oil products abroad, reports TASS.

According to the head of the Russian government, if the representatives of the oil industry on Wednesday cannot agree with the authorities on the increase in gasoline prices, the government will impose "protective duties" on exports abroad of oil and oil products to contain prices on the domestic market. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak will be responsible for negotiations with the "oilmen", and on the results of his negotiations a decision will be made on further government actions. In case of a negative decision, a corresponding document will appear before the end of the week, Medvedev said.

Meanwhile, some of the experts of the Russian Union of Oil and Gas Producers say that protecting companies are not afraid of oil companies, as gasoline export volumes are rather small and do not exceed 10% of the volume produced in the country.

Earlier, representatives of the oil industry asked to increase selling prices for gasoline on average 5-6 rubles per liter from January 1 2019.

The situation in the gasoline market in Russia is actively observed in the Kremlin, but they said that the regulation of gas prices rests entirely with the Russian government.

Comments

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

the oil industry workers are completely dead, they’ve got 300% of their profits, give them under 1000, or maybe it’s time to carry out all branches of nationalization

[pillau]

Ofigeli is not the right word! They don’t see the coast at all.

[tap]

Ofigeli? Are you just watching channel 1? The price of gasoline is 62% of taxes and excise taxes. The manufacturer receives 10%. The rest is transportation, trade and so on.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: zapfen

The price of gasoline is 62% ...

For the sake of interest, look for information about the cost of oil

Quote: zapfen

The manufacturer receives 10%. The rest is transportation, trade and so on.

Alexander Novak reported that the cost of oil production in Russia is 10-15 dollars per barrel, then estimate the mai

[Servisinzhener]

But will we take into account how much this price is gaining due to transportation to the refinery? % gasoline and diesel. fuel derived from this barrel? Processing cost? And as you were told earlier, the price of fuel now amounts to 62% of taxes. For example, the price of diesel fuel without taxes would be about 17p.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Servisinzhener

For example, the price of diesel fuel without taxes would be about 17p.

you leave these fairy tales gasPREMA for the old ladies, in my life I made more than one price calculation there one tax that sits "B" the rest are wound up "ON" the problem is that all their profits are calculated as a percentage of ... as a result, the price grows almost not parabolic

[Arh]

Oil workers have large salaries and still want to raise, because of them others, for example, products can rise in price !!!

[KAV]

Quote: Arh

because of them, for example, other products can rise in price !!!

They can’t, but they will definitely rise in price! This has already passed more than once!

[Ross_ulair]

Not just big ... They already don’t see forests behind trees

[The 20th of October]

What are you talking about? Who has a big salary? I am an oilman myself. Our workers receive 25-30 tr per month. Is this a lot in modern realities?

[Ross_ulair]

Does the published video discuss the salaries of ordinary workers?
Or just to yell?

[The 20th of October]

I wrote a comment from my smartphone, wanted to answer this: "Oil workers have big salaries and still want to raise them, because of them, for example, other products may rise in price !!!" there is no one Arch. For some reason it was under yours. Sorry

[Ross_ulair]

You never can tell

[Benjamin Gnomes]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Servisinzhener

For example, the price of diesel fuel without taxes would be about 17p.

you leave these fairy tales gasPREMA for the old ladies, in my life I made more than one price calculation there one tax that sits "B" the rest are wound up "ON" the problem is that all their profits are calculated as a percentage of ... as a result, the price grows almost not parabolic

You are an old woman) who has heard komunyatsky tales and imagines herself an expert)

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Servisinzhener

But will we take into account how much this price is gaining due to transportation to the refinery?

For the sake of interest, find out how much transport costs average.

[The Siberian barber]

Quote: Servisinzhener

But will we take into account how much this price is gaining due to transportation to the refinery? % gasoline and diesel. fuel derived from this barrel? Processing cost? And as you were told earlier, the price of fuel now amounts to 62% of taxes. For example, the price of diesel fuel without taxes would be about 17p.

..- why is gas rising in price?
- Duc, the logistics are expensive!
- why is she expensive?
- because gasoline is expensive! ..))))

[Campanella]

Something I did not see the oilmen eking out a miserable existence. On the contrary, the owners of the oil fields only swell with money. Even supposedly the state Sechin simply wipes the fifth point with them.

[Runoway]

~ $ 15 per barrel oil cost
Since such a dance "the government is good, oilmen are bad," who is to blame for the fact that dallar is 65r now with oil at $ 77 / barrel ???? 2018 budget is based on $ 47
Below oil prices 2008-2010, the dollar was at 32r sanctions are kind of "nothing"

[Vinnibuh]

Come on? Solid orphans

[Achilles]

Quote: zapfen

Ofigeli? Are you just watching channel 1? The price of gasoline is 62% of taxes and excise taxes. The manufacturer receives 10%. The rest is transportation, trade and so on.

You are absolutely right, the government is to blame for everything, very high taxes and excise taxes lead to an increase in the price of gasoline, so the producer is forced to increase the price of gasoline, you can easily make gasoline for 20 rubles, 15 rubles, or even less, just lower the tax and excises and all, but then less money will come into the budget, and the government cannot allow this. Here are the state-wahs of Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Cutters, etc., they have penny gas, all because the tax is small, if we were thinking about people, they would also have gas for a penny, like theirs.

[Ross_ulair]

Quote: Achilles

they have penny gas, all because the tax is small, if we thought about people, there would also be penny gas, like ours.

On one condition - if the budget would go 100% of the oil industry’s profit, and not the profit tax.
And on the difference between margin and taxes, they cut fat with millers. Yes, I and their yachts do not go off from our slipways - even here the withdrawal of money abroad.

Complete nationalization is necessary for hydrocarbons. And hired "effective managers" go through the forest.
Only the Stalinist principle of recruitment.
Either the market - but if the market is for everyone. KPI is very much considered for ordinary managers, so let's start with the tops.
Managed - you 10cc $ prize.
I didn’t manage - I went out with payment of the penalty.
Market, nothing more

[Machito]

Nationalization and industrialization, arms race.

[venik]

Quote: zapfen

The manufacturer receives 10%. The rest is transportation, trade and so on.

=========
And I kept wondering why these "oil managers" are all so "poor" ..... It turns out that the profitability there is just some kind of pathetic 10% .....
PS Are you just reading comics ???

[PROXOR]

What's next? They were allowed to earn oil. But no one gave permission to profit. And judging by the offices of oil companies, they are not very poor. ESPECIALLY SECHIN! So there is nothing. Block their ability to generally sell oil abroad. Let the state itself sell.

[Bull Terrier]

This is a business. They will always look for opportunities to earn more. Otherwise it does not work. But the government should upset them a long time ago. Late now, but even so.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bull Terrier

This is a business. They will always look for opportunities to earn more.

the question arises what is the antitrust committee doing? !!!!

[Bull Terrier]

Fines. Only those fines beat off Potgm in a couple of weeks. Well, what a fine of 500 million rubles nationwide can change for a huge market? They beat him after raising prices, and again earn

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Fines

whom ?!
I understand that prices are raised and antitrust monitors ... pears

[Bull Terrier]

Only this spring was fined for this amount. It is strange that they all missed it.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Only this spring was fined for this amount.

you first read what fined

[Bull Terrier]

I know why) just talked about the work of antitrust monitors. They’re doing something.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I know why)

well, say it out loud and don't play the fool

Quote: Bull Terrier

just talked about the work of antitrust monitors. They’re doing something.

the cat does the same thing, you perfectly understood WHAT they were talking about, but I'm sorry trolling

[GibSoN]

Fines.

It's cool .. They invented it themselves, they fined themselves, they themselves got loot from both taxes and fines .. In general, it’s profitable to work like that.

[Machito]

And what about the "Abramovichs" when they return?

[The Siberian barber]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Bull Terrier

This is a business. They will always look for opportunities to earn more.

the question arises what is the antitrust committee doing? !!!!

... gets paid
Here it is, not even in it (although a little more zeal would be nice), but in the legislation.

[Svarog]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Bull Terrier

This is a business. They will always look for opportunities to earn more.

the question arises what is the antitrust committee doing? !!!!

The Antimonopoly Committee is a fiction, a pocket organization .. a distracting maneuver .. in general, everything is like the illusionists ..

[StVahmistr]

Vladimir, did you seem to have a better rank, or did I confuse something?

[StVahmistr]

the question arises what is the antitrust committee doing? !!!!

How is this what? Bribe counts.

[ANCIENT]

bull terrier is not a business, but a new form of robbery of people - business-like banditry.

[Bull Terrier]

Overdo it. How do you imagine a business? Work for work or work for profit and development? There is a demand, there is a supply.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bull Terrier

How do you imagine a business?

it’s making a profit, but you need to have a conscience, and in the conditions of the Russian Federation it’s also a detriment

[StVahmistr]

Overdo it

No one overdoes it; Russian business is a banal robbery, unlike the Western one, and nothing more. What kind of development are you talking about?

[Bull Terrier]

I'm afraid we won’t understand each other. For some reason, you treat business as a service; they must do something for you. But in reality, this is not so. What does it mean to rob? They make you stuck. Something to buy? Sweat at gunpoint? Demand. Do you understand? Demand gives rise to all offers, and only he. They will not take gasoline from them for 5 rubles more, they will not sell it. The market does not form out of thin air. Selling cheaper, while others selling more expensive is also stupid, just losing profit. And here it’s just the government’s business, to beat hands, that would not be impudent. And now it is just beginning to do it.

[StVahmistr]

What does it mean to rob? They make you stuck. Something to buy? Sweat at gunpoint?

Here we can say this: If you want to eat, you’ll buy, you won’t get anywhere. People buy where to go, but they again become impudent!

[Bull Terrier]

Exactly. This is the task of the government in my opinion, to keep them within. For business will always strive for superprofits, and they need to put up barriers. And then everything will work. But we have everything as usual through one place. They try to set the barriers after, not before.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bull Terrier

They will always look for opportunities to earn more. Otherwise it does not work.

play out

[Bull Terrier]

You should at least read what is written on the banners.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

read it when he takes the pitchfork darling and he’ll be

[Bull Terrier]

It’s necessary to ban such phrases for such pictures. For life.

[reservist]

but such phrases did not appear from scratch ...
a hundred years ago they already tried to "ban" ... and it was "for life" ...

[Bull Terrier]

I do not dispute historical realities. Just both of these abominations. Communists are throwing minuses, but this moment of history is complete horror and one cannot be proud of it.

[nerd.su]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Just both of these abominations. Communists are throwing minuses, but this moment of history is complete horror

Do not consider it an insult, but such a comment is more likely to face a person with the nickname "schoolgirl", and not "bull terrier" ...

[Bull Terrier]

The perception of those events is different for everyone. Personally, this is mine.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Bull Terrier

The perception of those events is different for everyone. Personally, this is mine.

yes violet, the result will be the same - SEA OF BLOOD

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

What are you? !!!!!
and what seditious in the picture? !!!!!
there is a wise guy like bulk and on a similar wave they will bring out young animals and the brutal people will support them, who will you ban then? !!!
once again, in our Kaliningrad experiment, ALL children's polyclinics put the experiment into ONE, but the brutal mothers and give a whistle, and they will support dad after another trip to the gas station

[barsuk]

You just haven't figured it out.

According to the Minister of Health of the region, Alexander Kravchenko, several medical institutions will operate as one legal entity, so that patients will not have questions about where to be examined, but, on the contrary, the possibilities of getting help in a hospital of other profiles will increase.

“At the same time, as a person went to his clinic at the place of registration, he will continue to walk, nothing will change for him,” the minister added.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: barsuk

You just haven't figured it out.

Yes, of course, they didn’t figure it out, we are signing up for a therapist two weeks in advance
but it’s not clear what I’ll go to him with, in two weeks I’ll cure a sore myself

[StVahmistr]

Yes, of course, they didn’t figure it out, we are signing up for a therapist two weeks in advance
but it’s not clear what I’ll go to him with, in two weeks I’ll cure a sore myself

If you survive ....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: StWahmister

If you survive ....

Well, with the flu or a cold, I’ll survive anyway, but when I come healthy (recovered) will they give me sick leave

[Flies]

Here I look at the comments. Pecked Bull Terrier. And what did he write this? What is still written by Marx? At the same time, supporters of communist views seem to be minus! Communists against Marx ??? Stunned!
Well, who is reforming healthcare in your Kaliningrad? Business?
You had the opportunity to choose your power recently. Why did you vote for her? Here in Khabarovsk a local governor was hired. Have chosen another. I don’t know what’s up, but at least people are trying to change their lives! And after all, the conditions of existence, in comparison with Kaliningrad, are not in favor of the Far East.
By the way, in revenge, Moscow transfers the capital from Khabarovsk to Vladik and tells how it will create a paradise in the Primorsky Territory. Well, this is understandable: flying over there will also be inadmissible for edra. The scandal in the canceled elections showed that they will gnaw at the throat, but will not give up their place.
Only now it is not necessary to attribute me to the liberals now, and to come up with the idea that I am going to bring the "piled up" into the street. Have already passed.

[Vanek]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

mothers will arrange a butch, and fathers will support them after the next trip to the gas station

And Russian ambulans, amballas
Everyone is sleeping in a sweet hibernation
Then, suddenly, how they get up, how they get up,
Yes, how to soak Europeans-Europeans!
And a terrible Russian renaissance will break out!
And a terrible Russian renaissance will break out!

[StVahmistr]

Would you even read what is written on the banners

Everything is written correctly, there are no errors. And what is wrong?

[Svarog]

Quote: Bull Terrier

This is a business. They will always look for opportunities to earn more. Otherwise it does not work. But the government should upset them a long time ago. Late now, but even so.

Business is when he himself came up with, developed, implemented, invested his own money. And this is not a business, these are parasites ..

[Bull Terrier]

Well, of course. You now tell us all that this is. I developed it myself, implemented it myself, built it myself. Do I need to develop a new type of brick in order to build houses?) Or a new borscht recipe to come up with, to feed people?

[Vinnibuh]

Boole, that's interesting, are you stupid, or are you pretending to be? Svarog wrote correctly. Find, build, and then demand. And these in the 90s stupidly pressed and a mustache, bingo.

[Bull Terrier]

Do not be rude? OK? The man generalized the whole business and did not speak only about the oil industry. And my post appeared just because of this.

[Vinnibuh]

Sorry, got excited. Just for these people, evil is not enough. Sorry

[Bull Terrier]

No question) drove through)

[Bull Terrier]

I don’t have such a habit at all. And whether I’m smart or stupid, it’s not for me to draw conclusions. I'm not a dollar, I don’t have to like everyone)

[sabakina]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I'm not a dollar, I don’t have to like everyone)

Boole, but in this world is there a thing that everyone likes? Happiness does not offer ....

[Svarog]

Quote: sabakina

Quote: Bull Terrier

I'm not a dollar, I don’t have to like everyone)

Boole, but in this world is there a thing that everyone likes? Happiness does not offer ....

Look at fire, water, nature .. many things that everyone likes))

[Vanek]

Quote: Svarog

Look at fire, water, nature .. many things that everyone likes)

Cons instructed ...

Apparently not everyone likes it.

+ from me.

[Ace Tambourine]

Not ... fire, flowing water, money, and how others work ...
The best option is a fire in the savings bank ...

[Claymore]

Quote: Svarog

Business is when he himself came up with, developed, implemented, invested his own money

When everything is self-employment.

And business is a commercial activity aimed at making a profit (the only source of which is the exploitation of man by man).

[yehat]

Yes, the government itself forces oil workers to raise prices above normal! Costs increased purely due to fees and taxes, and you say that this is not done by the government!
Of course, oil companies remain in not weak profits, but they need to invest a lot.
Therefore, I believe that both of them are to blame for the situation, but now the main increase in gas prices is provoking the government with those laws that were adopted in the summer and the Central Bank (the ruble is not just falling, but is diving directly)

[StVahmistr]

but they need to invest a lot.

They are investing more in their pocket. Who will say what is Miller's salary per day? AND?

[Ross_ulair]

Quote: yehat

Therefore, I believe that both of them are to blame for the situation, but now the main increase in gas prices is provoking the government with those laws that were adopted in the summer and the Central Bank (the ruble is not just falling, but is diving directly)

I am getting the impression that the authorities have artificially created a revolutionary situation in the country over the past six months.
Pension reform, fuel, ruble, taxes (self-employed, VAT). In culture, in general, a nightmare - SOLZHEnitsyn, mannerheim, koli_s_urengoy, museum of the Battle of Stalingrad ... Now just drop a match - it will burn!

One would think that this is another tricky plan of GDP, which the oligarchs do not give life to, and then, having created a wave - he is on horseback and with a saber, at the head of the masses chopping everyone into cabbage - and then we will live!
But everything is more commonplace, I think - the guys decided to grab the maximum at the end. And pensions, and taxes, and other and other ...

So ... Cui prodest? Cui bono?

[yehat]

the guys just lost the shore. Putin used to restrain the oligarchy’s appetites; they don’t see that tension can turn into action. They think that the reinforcement of the Russian Guard almost 2 times, the amendment of the law on police, the amendment of the Labor Code, laws on assemblies gave them protection (about 2.5 million people in departments + 2 million private security) from those who are robbed, but everything goes according to the bloody scenario sunday. just a carbon copy process is repeated. Even the idiocy of the local bosses coincides.

[Flyer_64]

Quote: Bull Terrier

But the government should besiege them and for a long time already

You are just mistaken. The government is just working on oil and gas. All that is happening now is just such a job of containing price increases. But why only after prices jumped 10%? I don’t even want to talk about FAS. A service that is only engaged in stating the fact has already happened, but not in advance. All that is happening now is measures in order not to increase social tension, like we all see, we control everything, we act and all that jazz. In May, prices also rose, but they were not shot down but recorded. Gas prices will rise and other prices will rise, and the government will issue inflation of about 4% by the end of the year. And it seems that they planned all this in advance.

[vkl.47]

The ultimatum is one !!! nationalization !!! and the point.

[Ross xnumx]

Under the terms of the government's "ultimatum", if the oil companies fail to come to an agreement, the government will cut off their ability to export oil and oil products abroad, TASS reports.

Have you tried to deprive foreign currency earnings? Let them trade for rubles ...

[Bull Terrier]

Nationalization is always a dead end. Not an option.

[Igor Borisov_2]

Maybe not all, but the state should have a controlling stake. Then they cannot blather ....

[Bull Terrier]

Blocking. Checkpoint too much load. The state has it in the same Rosneft. The mere presence of a certain number of shares does not affect the management of companies. The most important criterion for the result of work is profit. How much the company has earned over a certain period of time. Does the state have shares, for example, those who manage them will at their own expense sabotage the company's work? Yeah, schazzzz. What is needed here is government intervention in the domestic market. Do not want normal? Fuck you, not export. Do not want to cut prices? Fuck you and not subsidies, and so on. But this had to be done the day before yesterday.

[Vend]

So many comments and no one gives a positive assessment of Medvedev’s action.

[Bull Terrier]

And why give them? What he is doing now had to be done a lot of time ago. And not how to react to the situation now.

[Vend]

Quote: Bull Terrier

And why give them? What he is doing now had to be done a lot of time ago. And not how to react to the situation now.

Do not work - bad, work - still bad. Here it is human ingratitude.

[Bull Terrier]

Ustrednim- work, but bad))))))

[Vend]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Ustrednim- work, but bad))))))

As you can see, any government will be bad.

[Bull Terrier]

I am realistic) I feel bad or good anyway. Judging by business. The ratio of good to bad is not in their favor. For me, the worst part is that they are reacting and not planning. What do they react late. But I am glad that at least they do it.

[Vend]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I am realistic) I feel bad or good anyway. Judging by business. The ratio of good to bad is not in their favor. For me, the worst part is that they are reacting and not planning. What do they react late. But I am glad that at least they do it.

Realist is unlikely. There are positive and negative results in the work of the government and in the life of the country. This is realism.

[Bull Terrier]

I said this) I’m not from the sect

[Vend]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I said this) I’m not from the sect

Then we speak the same language

[The Siberian barber]

Quote: Bull Terrier

I am realistic) I feel bad or good anyway. Judging by business. The ratio of good to bad is not in their favor. For me, the worst part is that they are reacting and not planning. What do they react late. But I am glad that at least they do it.

The sleepy mooing of the Prime Minister and Co., I don’t think so)
"The bird is seen by the litter" (c)

[Wolverine]

Quote: Wend

Quote: Bull Terrier

And why give them? What he is doing now had to be done a lot of time ago. And not how to react to the situation now.

Do not work - bad, work - still bad. Here it is human ingratitude.

We will judge by the results, but puff and pretend to be a formidable guardian for the people, he knows how, only who will believe him?

[nerd.su]

Quote: Wend

no one gives a positive assessment to the action of Medvedev.

So he hasn't done anything yet.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Wend

So many comments and no one gives a positive assessment of Medvedev’s action.

And here only two estimates suggest themselves:
1. He is their henchman, therefore he can’t do anything, so for the sake of pro forma, he trembles something.
2. They have one pocket in fact, therefore they cannot and do not want to.

[Vinnibuh]

At 100% I agree.

[yehat]

you don’t understand, they cannot blather anyway. the oil industry is taxed like a flea dog.

[Vinnibuh]

I don’t have to turn everything over, I agree, hard workers do not see a niche, while others have at least a spade. And they don’t see the edges.

[Severok]

I wonder where the oil industry is taxed ???
If you consider excise taxes, it is we, motorists and tractor drivers, who pay from our own pockets and the pockets of the enterprise! And what is paid from the pocket of the enterprise - so all the same, we all pay through the shops!
And the oil industry - so there only ordinary mortals earn and personal income tax is paid, and the managers (hucksters and mediocrities, grabbers and geeks, whom we often see from the zombie hunter) DO NOT get a damn on the dish so that the whole city can live for one week pay per month such a muzzle.

[Claymore]

Quote: Igor Borisov_2

the state should have a controlling stake

In this case, the output is state capitalism - an ideal option for privatizing profits and nationalizing losses.

[Gardamir]

or maybe it's time to nationalize all industries

here is the answer

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: Gardamir

or maybe it's time to nationalize all industries

here is the answer

This is not the answer, this is an excuse .. Ghouls .. the bloodlines will not be full anyway ..

[vladcub]

WHILE too much, but we'll see!

[Million]

It would be necessary, but no one to do it ...

[neri73-r]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the oil industry workers are completely dead, they’ve got 300% of their profits, give them under 1000, or maybe it’s time to carry out all branches of nationalization

Oil industry workers in particular, and in general, graduates and apologists of the Higher School of Economics (Higher School of Economics) were crazy, their nonsense about the invisible hand of the market and the liberal economy can no longer withstand criticism, it is already obvious to everyone that this is a divorce of the population and the surrender of the position to the Anglo-Saxons, under their colonial system economy! In short, camprodors led by DAM.

[Svarog]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the oil industry workers are completely dead, they’ve got 300% of their profits, give them under 1000, or maybe it’s time to carry out all branches of nationalization

Medvedev decided to show the "fierce struggle" with prices ... it means that prices will continue to rise .. It is high time to nationalize everything ... They grow fat on the "national property", while the retirement age is also being raised to the people, taxes, etc. ..

[Bull Terrier]

Some have already nationalized. In Venezuela. Ruined the entire mining industry to hell. And we will have the same.

[Svarog]

Quote: Bull Terrier

Some have already nationalized. In Venezuela. Ruined the entire mining industry to hell. And we will have the same.

70 years have not been the same, but now it will be .. or until Sechin no one produced oil in Russia? What stories to tell ..

[Bull Terrier]

70 years was not what? Yes, after 90 rushed to buy technology, which we simply did not have !!! They got it of course. Do you remember how the forest was mined, that the Japanese were in shock? From how much was lost during processing? No need to give the example of the USSR. Then they did not count money. This will not work out now. Or remember. When did normal gasoline appear in the country? Was he in the USSR?

[nerd.su]

Quote: Bull Terrier

70 years was not what? Yes, after 90 rushed to buy technology, which we simply did not have !!! We mined of course

Well, tell us for technologies that we didn’t have? Just do not spray, do not leave the topic of oil

[Bull Terrier]

I did not say that they were not there. I said that they rushed to buy those that we did not have at the moment. Oil refining is still backward. I remember how the first acquaintances came from Japan and talked about the brands of gasoline that they sell there. But at the gas station we had 76 and 93 and that’s all. I was in cultural shock. 98,102,105. In 90 years I saw a Japanese tanning bed, and to put it mildly, prigigel.

[nerd.su]

The fact that we produced a limited set of brands of gasoline or diesel fuel of not the highest quality does not mean that we did not have technology or that we could not launch such technologies ourselves. We had a planned economy and much less environmental problems compared to Japan or Europe. And then they rushed to buy, because consumers came to power - "economists" who themselves are not able to lead the creation of new technologies, and even adore Western technologies both in the economy and in industry. So they rushed to buy everything, what would be like "in the civilized world."
So, if all the same, engineers or, as it is now fashionable to say, technocrats come to power, then it will be possible to nationalize everything that is necessary, oil, defense and so on. And everything will work at a loss.

[New Year day]

Quote: Bull Terrier

This will not work out now.

what happened during the years of Putin’s rule, when the treasury was bursting with oil tank?
In Turkmenistan, for a month they give out 120 liters of gasoline for free. Are there other people? Maybe less thieves?

[Bull Terrier]

Well, apparently a population of 149 m. People are definitely not there. Is such a difference suitable?

[Severok]

Come on, get rid of the balance about the lack of oil production and refining technologies in the USSR! Come on! Where are you? I warmed the seagull, laid out the cookies on the plate, I can’t wait!

[Yura]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the oilmen are completely dead

By the way, this is a true remark, gasoline and diesel fuel could cost cheaper, given this:

What is made from fuel oil

Recall that fuel oil is obtained as a result of the initial processing of oil. Further, they make from fuel oil:

bitumen (from which asphalt is obtained by adding minerals)
oils (which go to the production of cosmetic creams, oils and ointments)
liquid boiler fuel (for heating homes)
paraffin (candles, etc.)
Oil refining

As can be seen from the figure above, after the secondary processing of oil, the following products are obtained:

plastic
rubber and rubbers (synthetic)
polyethylene (bags, etc.)
fabrics (synthetics, e.g. polyester)
paint
detergents
wax
fertilizer
dyes
In addition to all of the above, various lubricants are made from oil:

petroleum jelly
hydraulic and electrical insulating oils
coolant
And that's not all. In the process of oil refining, several other useful materials and substances are formed that are actively used in industry. Among such substances, for example:

tar (it is used in road construction)
coke (finds application in metallurgy)
sulfur (used to produce sulfuric acid)

http://www.benzin-cena.ru/articles/3-chto-delajut-iz-nefti

[lis-ik]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the oil industry workers are completely dead, they’ve got 300% of their profits, give them under 1000, or maybe it’s time to carry out all branches of nationalization

It is generally not clear how this industry suddenly became private.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: lis-ik

It is generally not clear how this industry suddenly became private.

[YUG64]

So the oilmen are to blame for the fact that 70% of the gas price is taxes? I remember when they introduced the toll, they promised to cancel all other excise taxes ... Canceled, yeah ... But how would such a revival really revive the domestic market .. .

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: YUG64

So, are oilmen to blame for the fact that 70% of gas prices are taxes?

Well, just don't need a tax, it's a "C" percentage inside, only excise tax can sit

[artifact]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the oil industry workers are completely dead, they’ve got 300% of their profits, give them under 1000, or maybe it’s time to carry out all branches of nationalization

if you mean oil and gas production, then it is not necessary to nationalize it. it is enough to amend article 9 paragraph 2 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation so that the bowels belong precisely to the people, and the mining companies let them get their profit from mining, transportation and processing. the price of 10 rubles per liter will suit me perfectly.

[vladcub]

My opinion: OIL and GAS A NATIONAL DESTINY, and if so is NATIONALIZATION, full or partial (preferably complete), but so that it is not

[Svarog]

Quote: vladcub

My opinion: OIL and GAS A NATIONAL DESTINY, and if so is NATIONALIZATION, full or partial (preferably complete), but so that it is not

It is also necessary to include alcohol here and mining and timber .. And then the pensions would be decent and a fair distribution of the public domain would not be an empty slogan ..

[Metallurg_2]

Not for this voucher privatization was carried out. And who will nationalize? In power around their friends, comrades, brothers, svatya.

[gurzuf]

Probably you need 10 percent of oil and 90 percent of the finished product from export oil per hill. Something like this.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: gurzuf

Probably necessary ...

it’s better to lean a couple of other oil and gas nouveau riche against the wall
we are sitting on oil and gas and we get it all in three ways, oil is getting cheaper - gas is getting more expensive, oil is getting more expensive - gas is getting more expensive, oil is standing still - gas is getting more expensive, straight stability

[novel66]

stability is the best confirmation of skill!

[Russia]

Quote: novel xnumx

stability is the best confirmation of skill!

And mastery is the key to stability, for a person-master.

[novel66]

some kind of vicious circle, where is the exit?

[Russia]

Lie on the sofa and not allow this in the future.

[your1970]

look at Vanesuela for a start - it's really fun there lately

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

it’s better to lean a couple of other oil and gas nouveau riche against the wall

leaning against .....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: your1970

look at Vanesuela for a start - it's really fun there lately

But be sure to her? no other countries?
https://ru.globalpetrolprices.com/Saudi-Arabia/gasoline_prices/

[yehat]

would you at least ask about the state of the oil refining industry.
Despite the bravura reports, it’s pretty dull there. Even the latest facilities commissioned are lagging behind the best foreign ones, our universities do not train specialists in new technologies, let alone the rest, such as depreciation of worn-out equipment.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: yehat

would you at least ask about the state of the oil refining industry.

Quote: yehat

I'm not talking about the rest of the type of depreciation of worn-out equipment.

we cry? !!!!
so maybe instead of new yachts of sports clubs, they will invest money in production and science? !!!!

[yehat]

who are they? if you are talking about Abramovich, Rotenberg, Shuvalov, Chubais, etc., then they perceive the economy only as an object of robbery, and not an increase in cost. Therefore, investment is not possible.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: yehat

therefore, investment is not possible.

it means they should invest under the thunderstorm of complete confiscation, the union contained communist regimes, but at the same time we lived, the Russian Federation now contains the whole west, but we still exist

[yehat]

I thought that the conditions of a license for activity may include some minimum indicators of production support

[Catfish]

All this can only be treated surgically. But I have no tools ...

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: Sea Cat

All this can only be treated surgically. But I have no tools ...

So the tools were pre-selected. So that this desire does not arise.

[Ross_ulair]

Quote: Sea Cat

All this can only be treated surgically. But I have no tools ...

Homeopathy can also help.
Zielonka there ... If you anoint your forehead.

[GRIGORIY76]

Imitation of violent activity. We look forward to raising tariffs at gas stations.

[Leshy1975]

Quote: GRIGORIY76

Imitation of violent activity. We look forward to raising tariffs at gas stations.

I support it that way. And this statement is nothing more than the usual transfer of arrows from power to oil industry workers. Power has not been so popular lately, so they decided to shift part of the negative to someone else. Although it makes no difference, Medvedev, Sechin, Putin are one close-knit, united team. But everyone is trying to play a good and evil investigator. We are waiting for an increase at the gas station, we are waiting for an increase everywhere and for everything in 2019. And there I hope, patience will burst among the majority, because I have not been hoping for conscience at all for a long time. And yes, me personally, all this is already very tired.

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: GRIGORIY76

Imitation of violent activity. We look forward to raising tariffs at gas stations.

And after gasoline, everything else will grow .. by the end of the year they will solemnly announce that inflation is the lowest in the history of 4%, when gas prices soared by 20%, the dollar went up by 20% ... that's who they hold us for ?

[yehat]

I'm wondering. inflation for the average composition of the consumer basket, according to economists, is already approaching 20% ​​per annum. And you expect that gasoline will not change numerically. What is it like?

[Ross_ulair]

Quote: Underwater Hunter

by the end of the year, they will solemnly announce that inflation is the lowest in the history of 4%, when gas prices soared by 20%, the dollar went up by 20% ... who are they holding us for?

In the 13th year he took a car. Tank 72 liters. Fueled the G-Drive 95 only at Gazpröm. Always to full. (~ 65-67 liters each refueling. Analysis from May to May (both I took and I analyze, without summer)
13 year full tank - 1700-1880 rub.
18 year full tank - 2950-3100 rub.
Total rise in price for 5 years by 73%. Yeah, inflation 5% per year. Convinced

I am also silent about the communal apartment - over 8 years it has grown by 90%. I also believe in inflation from the government.
Yes, even shops - in Metro 8 years ago for 5k rub. scored an almost full basket. Now the same thing - at least twice as expensive. Go to Pyaterochka at home for a couple of days - from 800 rubles. for a few days.

Continuous window dressing around. In the USSR, economic growth was considered from the best years. Now - from the dullest.
The power of parasites and germs.

[bald]

Well, when will this lordly mess stop. The bowels should belong to ordinary people, naive of course, but this is so. They created joint stock companies on their ass. In general, I am the owner, I forgot, like the Canary Islands - the notification came from Yekaterinburg, from the meeting of shareholders. I have more than a hundred of these letters from meetings and invitations to them. And what - I have two stocks, I’m putting them back like a splinter! Uralenergo! At least one pebble - but mine! Obul people to the fullest and continue.

[Bull Terrier]

Subsoil and so belong to the state. Those who use them pay him for it.

[bald]

Shareholders - the state simply has one more (approximately).

[Bull Terrier]

Do you mean 50 percent + 1 share?) And why so much? 25 percent give the right to block all decisions.

[bald]

Previously, it seems like it was - when you were doing, I remember the numbers swam 49 - 50 percent - in the early 90s. The point is that the state then supposedly could not normally produce and service hydrocarbons - that's what they got - "The guy wanted - that's what he flew" (song. Glitch.)

[Bull Terrier]

But the state really cannot do this effectively. He does not have the most important thing - competition and desire for growth. Why should he invest in technology? Flowing and good. No planning for years to come. This only gives private capital. But it must be kept in the framework, therefore 25 is enough. To control everything. And the rest is more profitable to sell and instead of shares to keep money that you can invest.

[reservist]

and the state, in fact, to whom does it belong?

[Sergei75]

How's the Italian family?
Vaughn MVDeshniki, the leaders arranged a binge with rape in an administrative assignment, while they should be an example and this is all power, they are not the law, they are above the law!

[Bull Terrier]

Well, sit down now. They will not let it go on the brakes. Miracles in the letter m is always enough.

[Sergei75]

Yes, such eccentrics in every department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and not only.

[Hypatius]

In my opinion, an error crept into the article. DAM could not say such a thing! Protective duties are not combined with a "tax maneuver".

[Loess]

Either the oil industry even got the government, or Medvedev lost his fear.

Meanwhile, some of the experts of the Russian Union of Oil and Gas Producers say that protecting companies are not afraid of oil companies, as gasoline export volumes are rather small and do not exceed 10% of the volume produced in the country.

Fees will apply not only to gasoline, but also to oil.

the government will introduce "protective duties" on the export of oil and oil products abroad.

[dgonni]

Og, ban the export itself. Where will the budget get the budget?

[faterdom]

For so many years, Medvedev has led Chatterbox that amazed oilmen cannot believe that he is nominally, but still the head of the Government.

[private person]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

the oil industry workers are completely dead, they’ve got 300% of their profits, give them under 1000, or maybe it’s time to carry out all branches of nationalization

A weak try? The country's budget depends on oil and gas sales, and all the key posts are occupied by friends, you know whose. The Russian Guard is also commanded by a "friend". Hence the conclusion is all blah blah to the public. Oil workers are asking to raise the selling prices for gasoline by an average of 5-6 rubles per liter from January 1, 2019. they will be allowed by the guarantor for 3-4 rubles. And hurray everything in chocolate, there is an example on the face.

[pillau]

So win. The first sensible comment!

[Sergei75]

The budget of the country depends on us, the tax on raw materials when selling there from 10 to 22%, depending on the office, excise taxes and levies on fuel - 70%, but there the raw materials are regulated by the exchange and the prices of fuel in Russia .. ..

[The Siberian barber]

While they will "negotiate", prices can go up to 100 rubles per liter and when it "agrees", the government will report on the successes in this matter, the oil industry will remain with super-profits, and the people with rising prices, for everything

[Gardamir]

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev

What is strange here. I live in sovereign Russia. The country has a constitution. There is no prime minister in the constitution. There is a violation of the rules of the site paragraph D.

[Underwater hunter]

Quote: Gardamir

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev

What is strange here. I live in sovereign Russia. The country has a constitution. There is no prime minister in the constitution. There is a violation of the rules of the site paragraph D.

What does the guarantor do?

[notingem]

Thinks Duma

[Svarog]

Quote: notingem

Thinks Duma

Brake visible So many years and all in thought .. It is not necessary to think, but to be in accordance with the Constitution the guarantor of its observance ..

[Consultant]

Quote: Gardamir

The country has a constitution. There is no prime minister in the constitution

According to the Constitution, the country has a Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation.
As the journalist called him - on the conscience of this journalist.

Quote: Gardamir

There is a violation of the rules of the site paragraph D

e) Insulting religious beliefs and feelings of citizens, such as: the publication of anti-religious demotivators, sayings, poems, videos and audio clips, etc.

??

[Gardamir]

??

Well, this is the only thing that fits the point. Because patriotic feelings are not noted anywhere in the rules. That we will consider love of the motherland a religious feeling. But the growing Americanization of the country is already causing heartburn .. For example, not only are Russian subway ads duplicated in English. So already everywhere the inscriptions in English. I look around at the Azerbaijanis, the Chinese and I think they really know Russian worse than English.

on the conscience of this journalist.

This is not true. Otherwise, the film "Holiday" is on the director's conscience and there is nothing to condemn him.
As for specifically the statements of the Prime Minister, he said and said well. It is necessary to look at the deeds and results, otherwise he allegedly spoke out against. But gasoline will rise in price.

[Wilderness]

Our government definitely lives on another planet. Under capitalism, it is sometimes more profitable to destroy the goods altogether than to sell them cheaper (bringing down the price). What will Medvedev say if tomorrow, after the ultimatum, announcements appear at gas stations: "No fuel; at all." And the refineries will be closed for repairs (naturally scheduled). They are weak against the oligarchs.

[pillau]

Let me correct, not against them, but at the head ...

[your1970]

Quote: Wilderness

Our government definitely lives on another planet. Under capitalism, it is sometimes more profitable to destroy the goods altogether than to sell them cheaper (bringing down the price). What will Medvedev say if tomorrow, after the ultimatum, announcements appear at gas stations: "No fuel; at all." And the refineries will be closed for repairs (naturally scheduled). They are weak against the oligarchs.

here are three quarters
they don’t understand what is the nationalization of such a monster that for starters it’s stupid not to get gas at gas stations - AT ALL (because the supply contracts were concluded with completely different people and organizations) ....
At VO people think that if they pull the mother for a tit (nationalize the oil industry), then milk will run out of her (gas will become like in the USSR according to 10 cop) .... yeah, right now ...

[Victor Demchenko]

Sergey! at one time there was such a prime minister with us, Evgeny Primakov, so if you remember in those days he managed to pull the country out of a VERY deep ass for only incomplete 8 months ... and the current government manages to drive the country into even deeper without any preconditions ass. so .... but just blocked the withdrawal of oil money over the hill and ... it was quickly removed!

[notingem]

Straight Barmaley. All the oligarchs scared. There is no money for you hold on!

[canurodes]

Dima again challenges the laws of physics - pull himself by the hair

[please]

They will never agree on anything. These clowns did not start a big brawl, but an ordinary consumer would pay.
70% of taxes have already been included in the price of a liter of gas. The government has nowhere to take it from. The flowering, after the new year, of samovar gasoline is completely real. Mini factories have done a lot.
In pursuit, the government has no real levers of control in this area, it did not and never will. For example, compare the cost of a barrel of oil in the world market and a liter of gasoline with us, for simplicity since the 2000s. Enjoy.
I’m very reminded of the show of Putin’s surprise about the rise in electricity tariffs after the assurances of Nabiulina, this is the place of her work, the huge work done in this direction to reduce the payment burden for the population.
It will be the same.

[Ural-4320]

As an option, people will begin to switch to diesel engines and "stick" to the drivers and other people, where hundreds of liters of diesel fuel are released for a work shift.

[notingem]

At this pace, someone from oil and gas will read out the New Year’s appeal to the Russians. And these will definitely be reduced as unnecessary

[Giants]

[quote = notingem] At this pace, someone from oil and gas will read out the New Year’s appeal to the Russians.
At this pace, until the end of the decade of bright victories, none of us will survive.

[Gerklim]

Providence and the oil industry ultimatums are set to each other, and in the end we pay.

[BAI]

then the government will block their ability to export oil and oil products abroad, TASS reports.

It was necessary to begin with this. In order for oil workers to fill Russia with gasoline and impose it on customers, it is enough to establish a direct dependence of the permitted export volume on the sales volumes in Russia (in liters, not money).
But at the same time, the state should moderate its appetite for excise taxes and get its "small share" from the increase in sales, not prices.

[artifact]

we adopted the panimash of all kinds of constitutions in the 90s, now let's slurp what we have prepared.
quote: oil in Russia can be found "... in private, state, municipal and other forms of ownership [read - in private ownership] ..." / Constitution of the Russian Federation, article 9.2 /.
 So is oil in Russia national or private? I propose to think about it on the example of the price of gasoline for citizens of Norway and Russia.
  In Russia, gasoline costs about 35 rubles, in Norway - about 100 rubles. But the average salary in Norway is about 200 rubles ($ 000 after tax), and in Russia - about 3300 (excluding personal income tax), that is, 30 times less. Thus, the "Norwegian" price of gasoline in Russia would be equal to 000 rubles.
  The figures are approximate, but the difference is too obvious - for the Norwegians, gasoline is several times cheaper than for the Russians.
took from the site "MAXPARK".

[Forestol]

as Catherine the Great also said, the Law and the truth are different concepts. Someone does not care about you or us, but the official who won the country does what he wants.

[Forestol]

Dima, an ultimatum?！ Rather, he is the initiator of treason of the oligarchy from the oil sector. Interestingly, WHO made Timakova, his spokesman, whose husband sponsored the mess on Bolotnaya on May 6, through his own bank, not so long ago. Dima is at least a member of the Fifth Column. In fact, a serious provocation is being prepared, for some reason ALL ALL the troubles of the population are concentrated in one compressed time, when earlier they stretched out for years and less terrible things. Is Putin waiting for outraged people to start building barricades? But the people are not the same, everyone is on the couch, waiting for hype ...

[Dzafdet]

They should not be threatened, but nationalized. And it's over ...

[Sergei75]

He would have announced that he would begin the fight against corruption ...

[Ross_ulair]

Bees Against Honey ... Rockers Against Drugs ...