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CIA knows everything about Russia, or how the West sees us

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The richness of opinions breeds the diversity of the world. It is this point of view that was adopted as a general one in a developed democratic society. If in the same group of people there are several different views on life, then this is considered a factor for the further development of this group of people. However, there are objective opinions and opinions such that are extremely far from objective reality. The fact that it is subjective opinions, far from the true state of things, are trying to raise to the rank of immutable truth, is no good.

CIA knows everything about Russia, or how the West sees us


Recently, Russia has increasingly been blamed for the fact that we have different points of view on the surrounding reality, or are absent as such, or the state is doing everything to strung the consciousness of the people on one thread. They say that it is possible to deal with this Russia, when there instead of people there is a half-bombed mass wandering through the streets, which can only in patched boots, crouching at the booth in a drunken state, of course, strumming in their old balalaika about the bitter people's folk song and frown angrily at the “prosperous and democratic” West. They say that these unshaven Russians Vank would have turned closer to the West, you see, and life in Russia would get better, as was the case in the nineties ... Loans would be collected at the IMF, planes would be cut into cans — look, and healed much better than the current one ...
Everything in Russia is bad, “experts” tell us, because we have Russians, they say, there is no objective information about what is happening around. And even the fact that the Russians themselves live in this reality and see everything with their own eyes with their own eyes - it doesn’t confuse the western “experts” on the mysterious Russian soul. In order for Russia to "move forward", the West proposes to use a proven trick - to draw information only from the "correct" American, British or other similar sources. Those authors much more than our brother know what is happening in Russia today, "what to do" and "who is to blame."

This material provides an opportunity to get acquainted with the materials that are published by the agency, claiming to be in first place in the world in terms of knowledge about everything that happens in the vast expanses of Mother Russia. This agency, of course, is the Central Intelligence Agency of the USA ... It will not be superfluous to know what it is about Russia - from the point of view of people who know more about us in the complexities of Russian life ... People of open, democratic, obviously competent, and indeed such, opinion whom no one has the moral right to question. And if anyone has, they can wait for his fiery arrows of democratic fury, which is now walking around the world in such a way that the well-being of entire countries is blown away through meetings, revolutions, speeches and other methods developed, including, not without the participation of the organization, the name which is mentioned above ...

So, the CIA knows everything about us ... And this knowledge is truly impressive ...

Let's start with stories. Russia begins its history, according to the indisputable opinion of experts from the designated American department, only from the 12 century - with the formation of the Principality of Moscow. That is, the authors of this version do not seem at all embarrassed that for a couple of centuries before the named date of the beginning of Russian history, the Russian people had already accepted Christianity (that without centralized power was hardly possible), that for more than three hundred years, cities like , for example, Moore and Pskov. Apparently, the three previous centuries are, at best, the history of Ukraine, after all, Kiev is Russia, and for the “specialists” from the CIA, the word Kiev and the word History of Russia do not seem to fit in with each other. Well, the CIA-shniki of Novgorod for the ancestors of many of today's Russians also do not consider Novgorod ...

Further, the “CIA-historians” describe the history of Russia only as an expansion against other nations. And only bloody and, of course, illegitimate expansion. Apparently, the “experts” decided that Ivan the Terrible could not take Kazan without the consent of the G8 and the UN Security Council, but then they remembered that in the times of Ivan the Terrible, the G8 was at best called all the Tsar's wives from Anastasia Romanovna to Maria Nakeda, and at the word The Security Council, and even the United Nations, the Tsar of All Russia could only cross himself and put the person who uttered this tirade on a stake ...

Further, in three sentences, the story from the Mongol-Tatar yoke to the coming to power of the Bolsheviks describes. And in fact it is true - and what is there to describe something ... The reforms of Peter I or Alexander II - so they do not fall under the propaganda interests of the United States, because, for example, slavery in the United States was abolished later than serfdom in Russia. How can one afford to say “democratic historians” out loud? Is it possible to say that Peter I cut a window to Europe? .. Today it’s not politically correct for the West, because you need to represent Russia just as a clumsy hut without windows and doors.

Next, something like this: the Bolsheviks seized power, then Stalin appeared, enslaved everyone and everything (by the way, there is not a word about the Great Patriotic War in this story), and only, thank you, God, Mikhail Gorbachev, who came to 1985, brought the country out of centuries of impenetrable darkness ... The historical material ends, of course, with Vladimir Putin, who, again, naturally, according to the authors of the CIA story of Russia, once again drove the country into authoritarianism, turned the North Caucasus into a bloody meat grinder, falsified absolutely all elections for last 12 years, well, all in the same vein ...

Further, the "experts" decide to provide Urbi et Orbi with information about the geographical data of Russia. It would seem that everything should be objective here, because geography is not like history, it’s not particularly reflective on free topics. But it was not there. “Experts” offer a “bomb”, as they say, already in the first minute of the match: what do you think, where to look for Russia - Europe - no, Eurasia - either. But in the Central Asia section, our Mother Russia is appearing in the CIA reports ... Then the “triumph of objective information” continues. The largest amount of text in the section “Geography of Russia” is devoted to literally monstrous environmental pollution. Here you have permanent industrial emissions throughout Russia, which no one in the country controls, and here there is intense radioactive pollution, and arable land pollution with chemicals (which, like the world, are called fertilizers ...), and soil erosion, and felled »Forests, and groundwater toxicity. In general, an old woman from Idaho will read this material, and this picture will pop up in her head: poor Russians exhausted by many years of totalitarianism are forced to walk on scorched earth in gas masks and do everything with dosimeters, drink contaminated water and sit on stumps of felled forests. After this, the old woman will definitely want to save our country from an ecological “nightmare” ... And besides, human trafficking is also flourishing in Russia. This is what the CIA writes, apparently, in order to bring that very grandmother from Idaho to the pre-infarction state ...

In the section “Society” it is proposed to learn the confessional structure of Russia. And here is the "bomb" too. It turns out that only 15-20% of Orthodox and about as many representatives of the Muslim religion live on the territory of the Russian Federation. The number of Orthodox, to put it mildly, is not impressive ... I wonder what kind of faith the rest of the Russians, according to the CIA? Apparently, these 60-70% of Russians identify themselves as atheists, Buddhists, Jews and freemasons ...

According to the data published for “reading,” Russia takes 219 (!) In the world in terms of population growth rates. It is interesting to find out where so many independent states have managed to count the CIA-shniki ...

The information about the main infectious diseases among the country's population is impressive: it turns out that we are literally mowed up with tick-borne encephalitis and bacterial diarrhea, and also managed to “try” the bird flu on Russian soil. In this regard, it is completely incomprehensible why the American ambassador has not clucked the bird flu yet ...

The section "Public organizations" is a separate story. Here you can find out that, it turns out, there are such NGOs in Russia as “TIGR”, the association of car owners, Greenpeace and even ... the Russian Orthodox Church. So the CIA-alista discovered the whole terrible truth about Russia: it turns out that the Russian Orthodox Church is a public organization — a little more, and the party will be called ...

Well, and crowns the entire section on the territorial disputes of Russia. If you have enough strength to read it to the end, then you may get the feeling that Russia doesn’t have a shred of uncontested land and not a drop of its own sea water. For Russia, it turns out, apart from Japan over the Southern Kuriles, territorial claims are made: Norway, Denmark, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine, China, Kazakhstan, Finland, Azerbaijan, Georgia (I wonder what Russian lands, according to the CIA, claim Georgians ...) and even the USA (the Americans dispute the section of the Bering Strait). It’s strange how we haven’t received a territorial bill yet, for example, Australians with New Zealanders.

And the materials that have been translated and published in an article on the Military Review website are just a fraction of what the CIA "knows" about Russia. After reading the information from the CIA- "experts" in Russia, it becomes completely incomprehensible what kind of reset can we talk about if you and I are seen as contaminated, poisoned with chemical waste, people suffering from diarrhea, who should remember from history only the rule of Mikhail Gorbachev. Yes, we only have anti-missiles and radars and it remains to furnish from all sides.

This is such a freedom of opinion, which we strongly recommend to draw the attention of those who call themselves the main democrats in the world. In this regard, it is time to publish similar results of the “study” of the situation in the US, so that the picture of the global “monitoring” becomes truly complete.

Full information about the "knowledge" of the CIA about Russia on the site https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rs.html
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  1. selbrat
    selbrat 31 May 2012 07: 56
    +50
    Well, I am not particularly surprised by the content of this information. It was not the scouts who made it up, but people who were deliberately engaged in an information war against us.
    1. Dimitrxnumx
      Dimitrxnumx 31 May 2012 08: 17
      +38
      I read the article with pleasure, laughed heartily. But if you take it seriously, what happens! Amer stupidly engaged in bullying. Another word does not come to mind. They are on a grand scale trying to poison us all and everyone. It is time for us, too, to start winning the information war.
      1. marauder
        marauder 31 May 2012 09: 01
        +29
        You don’t have to delve into who really is who. It is enough to read western assessments to Russian politicians. Whom the traitor praises.
        The CIA knows everything.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 May 2012 09: 35
          +16
          Quote: Maroder
          residual read western grades


          A fragment of the map of Muscovy E. Jenkinson, 1578

          "Under spreading cranberries Countess Grishka drank vodka from a samovar" the phrase is attributed to A. Dumas
          1. Paratov
            Paratov 31 May 2012 12: 37
            +14
            If the CIA has the same information for internal use, we have nothing to fear. They know little about us.
          2. Fox 070
            Fox 070 1 June 2012 01: 20
            +6
            Quote: Vadivak
            A fragment of the map of Muscovy E. Jenkinson, 1578

            Greetings, Vadim! Is it worth talking about the year 1578, if on the modern map (see the map in the article) the Lena River originates in Lake. Baikal, and r. There are no hangars at all. I have always said that America is a nation of semi-literate, zombie media, fattened snobs. And they will never be friends to us. As Comrade Saakhov said, we have two ways: either we will destroy them sooner or later (better sooner), or they will destroy us. am
        2. Altergo
          Altergo 31 May 2012 10: 34
          +18
          Okay, the TsRUshniki are ours, apparently from dampness a whole galaxy of Suvorov-Rezunov and similar personalities appeared.
        3. Cadet787
          Cadet787 31 May 2012 11: 20
          +24
          Article plus, pend-itself minus. What "freedom" can a nation of thieves and bandits bring to the world, only freedom from moral principles. This hotbed of evil must be fenced off not only with an iron curtain, but with an ever-growing nuclear missile shield. You can't trust them.
          1. Kievan
            Kievan 31 May 2012 13: 43
            -23
            Quote: Cadet787
            What kind of "freedom" a nation of thieves and bandits can bring to the world, only freedom from moral principles. This hotbed of evil needs to be fenced off not only with an iron curtain, but with an ever stronger nuclear missile shield.

            And then how to call the nation that hangs on the radio Chanson and even the cops under the police department in new jeeps, obviously not bought for a salary, drive around in a circle "Zhigan-Limon" and "Vladimirsky Central"?
            Protect our cops from the corrupting influence of the West? laughing
            1. Bunny
              Bunny 31 May 2012 14: 36
              +26
              Quote: Kievite
              how then to name the nation that hangs on the radio Chanson and even the cops under the ROVD on new jeeps bought clearly not for salary, they drive around in a circle "Zhigan-Limon" and "Vladimirsky Central"

              They have such specifics! You need to know the enemy from the inside! Now, if the cops were bastards from Mussorgsky and Schnittke, it would be annoying! .. Firstly, and secondly, than a zhigan-lemon is worse than madonna and rolling stones, you can’t even remember black negatives rapists ... Thirdly , for example, in our area there is no radio chanson at all! .. Fourth: Everyone sees what he wants to see! .. And fifth, give up the liberal habit of drawing general conclusions from any negative you like. fool
              1. smile
                smile 31 May 2012 16: 12
                +7
                Bunny
                So him, Bunny, in the tail and in the mane
              2. Kievan
                Kievan 31 May 2012 19: 07
                -1
                Quote: Bunny
                They have such specifics! You need to know the enemy from the inside!

                You made fun of enemies laughing They have no enemies, only competitors. Competitors in the drug business, arms trade, gambling business, extorting bribes, kidnapping, robbery of drunken and drug addicts. This list goes on and on. Due to my personal experience and the fact that I have friends in the police and my former employee of the central Kiev court, I can say that the real state of things in law enforcement agencies is much worse than even what people think about them ...
                Quote: Bunny
                Now, if the cops were fools from Mussorgsky and Schnittke, it would be annoying! .. This is firstly, and secondly, than a zhigan-lemon is worse than the madonna and the Rolling Stones, you can’t even remember black negatives rapers ...

                Yes, I do not care that they will listen to the cops if only not the thieves thieves.
                And do not pretend here that you did not understand the essence of my post and go into musical styles. Our society in its entirety is not deeply law-abiding (taxes, traffic rules, alimony, the tendency to carry all that is bad from work, it is at least), and the authorities have long been completely mafia-minded and live by their (thieves') concepts. And those examples that I gave are nothing more than external symptoms. If you are over 25-30 and you are not blind and deaf, then you noticed this a long time ago. Calling a nation of tastelessly dressed fat men who are ready to hand over a neighbor to the police for a lawn that is not trimmed is a nation of thieves and murderers living in such a society as ours - dense cheers-potreotism. Of course, I understand the general Russian surge in the Americans, but this is just ridiculous. I’m sure if there hadn’t been a comparison with the Americans, you would not have argued with me ...
                Quote: Bunny
                fifthly, give up the liberalistic habit of drawing general conclusions from any negative you like.

                Drop this customary habit of calling your opponents liberals and trolls. And use words with a very specific meaning, such as liberalism, Nazism, fascism and democracy as curses.

                PS The above said about society is equally related to both Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
                1. Nickname
                  Nickname 31 May 2012 19: 41
                  0
                  Kievite, completely agree. Putin rating and
                  Medvedev has fallen 5% since the election. And this is the beginning. Let's America, nevertheless put in the background, and begin cleaning in the apartment
                  1. smile
                    smile 31 May 2012 21: 01
                    +7
                    Nickname
                    Precisely, the first thing to be done is to remove, in full accordance with already existing legislation, the liberals from Bolotnaya who are organizing mass riots and expressing the opinion of the minority ... and minorities.
                    1. Nickname
                      Nickname 1 June 2012 00: 16
                      0
                      Yes, I was in the swamp. I am against corruption and I am for Russia! But, it ruins us faith in the king. And I do not want my daughter to go abroad, as she let slip.
                  2. Nickname
                    Nickname 1 June 2012 00: 26
                    +3
                    Damn, well, who puts the cons? Well, they don’t remove Serdyukov, Well, okay with the defense industry, well, what else should I give or rather sell .. there’s nothing left. Patriots ..
                  3. Docker76
                    Docker76 5 June 2012 16: 58
                    0
                    Quote: Nickname

                    Kievite, completely agree.

                    ... you already decide, otherwise I agree - I do not agree ..... or - both yours and ours ???
                    what
                2. Фокус
                  Фокус 31 May 2012 23: 23
                  +4
                  Quote: Kievite
                  You made fun of enemies laughing. They have no enemies, only competitors.
                  If this was so, then you did not even have the opportunity to write it. I have a good acquaintance of the police officer, he has successful operations (including anti-terrorism), which means he has saved more lives than you are, Hero of Russia, a talented officer and a very smart person. Let this be a vivid example but to say that everyone is roofing and so on. it means betraying these people.
                  Quote: Kievite
                  Yes, I do not care that they will listen to the cops if only not the thieves thieves.
                  Let them listen to what they want, the main thing is the result, and there is no need to angrily "splash saliva"
                  Quote: Kievite
                  Drop this customary habit of calling your opponents liberals and trolls.
                  So do not speak like a Liberal, otherwise it feels like you just came home from Bolotnaya Square or Maidan, well, I don't know. If you want me to reveal to you a terrible secret, but if you are not a Westerner, it will not be scary for you, the society in the "west" in Ukraine and in Russia is the same only the elite is different, if the "western" society is left to survive as ours in the 90s, then there will also be all those "symptoms", but with the elite it is more difficult, our elite does not seek to rule the whole world, if it takes money, it gives it away and does not send planes to bomb the lender, does not conduct experiments in Africa and Iraq, etc.
                  1. Kievan
                    Kievan 1 June 2012 04: 14
                    +3
                    Quote: Focus
                    If this was so, then you did not even have the opportunity to write it. I have a good acquaintance of the police officer, he has successful operations (including anti-terrorism), which means he has saved more lives than you are, Hero of Russia, a talented officer and a very smart person. Let this be a vivid example but to say that everyone is roofing and so on. it means betraying these people.

                    Does it matter to you how many times your wife cheated on you a couple or two dozen? I also have friends, police officers who solve murders marked with orders. Only sometimes they have to release criminals and falsify cases if they receive a call from above. Only my classmates "complain" to me about them, that they are "harassed" only because they somehow turned out to be involved in someone else's business and they have their own small business. This is how the system works and to call a spade a spade is not a betrayal, these people working within this system are themselves traitors. But in fairness, I must say that this system works with the tacit consent of the majority, so the circle of those responsible is much wider.
                    Quote: Focus
                    Let them listen to what they want, the main thing is the result, and there is no need to angrily "splash saliva"

                    So as a result, people die in the police department and jump out of windows. And hundreds of cases go to courts only on the basis of a lost confession. And the judges who are well aware of this give real terms, they also need their own statistics of sentences in order to be able to excuse real criminals. So go ... but the result and the music.
                    Quote: Focus
                    So don’t talk like Liberal, but it feels like you just arrived home from Bolotnaya Square

                    I’m telling you about specific things, not about political views. No need to look for politics in a stinking cesspool. She stinks and will stink regardless of your political views on her.
                    1. valerei
                      valerei 1 June 2012 10: 28
                      -1
                      Kievite, well done! I support comments, though not all. I would especially like to draw your attention to the fact that if the cops listen to "blatnyak", then this is a characteristic indicator of their brain education. And since we all left the USSR, this also applies to Russia. As a child is a display of his family, and the police are a display of the people who hired them for work. I emphasize: not Russia or Ukraine, but specific people who are in power at the moment. As for the CIA, whoever pays calls the tune. Therefore, this lie is needed by the US government, and it should be voiced by an organization that, by definition, must have reliable information, i.e. - CIA! The circle is complete. And the Americans will definitely believe this, why? A small example off topic. When my daughter was in an English gymnasium, in the 9th grade they wanted to send her to the USA for an internship, living with an American family and studying for a year at their school. She and her friend refused because did not want to waste a year. Why? Because the other returning students did not go to grade 11, but to grade 10, i.e. remained repeaters. Such a quality of education there and it was in 98. Our rulers have pushed our children to this quality at the present time. Hence such "politicians" and such cops and everything else too. By the way, a question to the site: when I "plus" the Kievite, the number did not change! Is this done on purpose? What's this? If the resident of Kiev commented across the "public" opinion on the site, then his rating, albeit cardboard, but negative? Not good, gentlemen, site owners!
                    2. Фокус
                      Фокус 1 June 2012 11: 41
                      +4
                      Quote: Kievite
                      Does it matter to you how many times your wife cheated on you a couple or two dozen? I also have friends, police officers who solve murders marked with orders. Only sometimes they have to release criminals and falsify cases if they receive a call from above. Only my classmates "complain" to me about them, that they are "harassed" only because they somehow turned out to be involved in someone else's business and they have their own small business. This is how the system works and to call a spade a spade is not a betrayal, these people working within this system are themselves traitors. But in fairness, I must say that this system works with the tacit consent of the majority, so the circle of those responsible is much wider.
                      That’s the problem that you’re not talking about a specific case, but about the whole system (I’m not trying to justify it), I’m talking about the fact that not all criminals are proof that you can safely walk all over Kiev now, and not how in the USA where there are neighborhoods where the police are afraid to go — this is exactly the result of Mr. - but. now you feel the difference. And about the music I agree with you.
                      Quote: Kievite
                      So as a result, people die in the police department and jump out of windows.
                      Where is it in Kiev? In my city there isn’t such a thing, and my acquaintances and friends don’t complain about the police, yes, about the officials.
                      Quote: Kievite
                      I’m telling you about specific things, not about political views.

                      Optimists and Pessimists are distinguished by the fact that the first of the entire information flow remembers good news and the second all negative, despite the fact that the brain does not consciously. I repeat, I’m not trying to justify the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, there are a huge number of problems in it, but I want to say the following: in our media they always write negative things about the police in the first place, because it’s popular and interesting, but they don’t write about positive processes because it’s nobody interestingly, that was the opinion that everyone in the police - the police can only protect and kill.
                      1. Kievan
                        Kievan 1 June 2012 19: 49
                        +3
                        Quote: Focus
                        That’s the problem that you’re not talking about a specific case, but about the whole system (I’m not trying to justify it), I’m talking about the fact that not all criminals are proof that you can safely walk all over Kiev now, and not how in the USA where there are neighborhoods where the police are afraid to go — this is exactly the result of Mr. - but. now you feel the difference.

                        In places of compact residence of gypsies, the police also do not rush once again. When we will have entire areas of compact residence of blacks, Latinos or Kakazians, we will see how our law enforcement officers poke in there. In Moscow, this kind of looms ...
                        For specific cases:
                        1 Robbed my cottage (bullshit junk) - thieves were detained on the 2nd day - after which the cops themselves began to ruin the case - 1 of 3 went to court - received a suspended sentence despite an analogous conviction (there is a minor child)
                        2 My friend was beaten to death with bits in the center of Kiev - the killers received a suspended sentence (there are young children).
                        3 In my car, they broke a window and pulled out the nonsense from the glove compartment - the thief was detained the next day - the businessman’s father arrived and double-compensated everything — I took the application and closed the case — six months later it turned out that the cops didn’t close anything, and the case was heard without the victim, the accused and witnesses and prosecutors extort money from this businessman ...
                        4 My girlfriend’s girlfriend’s husband killed his wife’s lover - a suspended sentence (or I don’t remember the amnesty) - there is a young child.
                        5 Near my house there was a drug for almost ten years, despite the more than active position of the residents - the huckster received only conditional sentences - the cops nodded at the prosecutor’s offices, the prosecutor’s at the cops — in the end, the huckster bent down.
                        I have NEVER in my life met a traffic cop or a cop who would refuse a bribe.
                        This whole system is based on the implementation of the disclosure plan - by searching for the offender or the victim who, under torture, will sign a confession and then extort money from them in exchange for freedom. The real terms are mainly received by the villagers and socially unprotected (no money will be paid off).
                        Quote: Focus
                        Optimists and Pessimists are distinguished by the fact that the first of the entire information flow remembers good news and the second all negative, despite the fact that the brain does not consciously. I repeat, I’m not trying to justify the system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, there are a huge number of problems in it, but I want to say the following: in our media they always write negative things about the police in the first place, because it’s popular and interesting, but they don’t write about positive processes because it’s nobody interestingly, that was the opinion that everyone in the police - the police can only protect and kill.

                        Media reports only organically complement my personal experience.
                3. Docker76
                  Docker76 5 June 2012 16: 53
                  +1
                  GO in your trash, better dig. And, poke his nose - did not come out with growth .... !!!! No.
                  We got already ............. fool
                  To treat such a time ... - it’s contagious, after all)))
                4. Che
                  Che 7 June 2012 07: 37
                  0
                  Kievan,
                  Well, right for Amers, the Slavs are like a red rag for a bull. wassat
              3. alexander hjcnjd
                alexander hjcnjd 31 May 2012 22: 49
                +5
                Quote: Bunny
                Everyone sees what he wants to see! .. And fifthly, give up the liberalistic habit of drawing general conclusions from any negative you like
                Of course, for example, the leader of a group of hoes who killed, extorted, raped in Kushchevka for a number of years. They were covered by cops who, after the haps were transplanted and were not touched with a finger. And despite the huge resonance of this case, this bandit was recently released from him a fine of 150 thousand. And if you do not kill and do not rape, but dare to protest against the power of crooks and thieves from 300 thousand to one and a half million will be taken from you.
                1. Фокус
                  Фокус 1 June 2012 11: 48
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
                  And if you do not kill and do not force, but dare to protest against the power of crooks and thieves from 300 thousand to one and a half million will be taken from you.
                  Not from you, but from the organizers, this is the first, protest - no one forbids you, but be nice, behave yourself, not happy whiners are always there, but everyone else has to clean and restore.
                2. Docker76
                  Docker76 5 June 2012 17: 05
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
                  groups of hoes that killed, extorted, raped in Kuschevka

                  .... of course, they themselves came to court, and asked for a timeline !!!!!!!!
                  ... got it, whiners !!!!!
                  ... fool
            2. Trapperxnumx
              Trapperxnumx 31 May 2012 14: 56
              +18
              Kievan,
              Yes, I sincerely pity Ukraine. With such and such cops, the truth is hard. But I have a friend of the district lives with his family in an apartment received from the state two years ago and travels exclusively by public transport, because there is not enough money for a car ...
              1. valerei
                valerei 1 June 2012 10: 40
                +1
                Supplement for precinct. I'm not going to "cut everyone with the same brush," but in the USSR the entire district knew the district police officer by sight, and since the beginning of the 90s we have known the district police officer as a kind of virtual face. And there is an office and an appointment schedule and in the duty room they send him to him, but, well, you can't catch him.
            3. Passing
              Passing 31 May 2012 15: 24
              +7
              Kievite, obviously you are talking about those very cops, and about the very nation in Kiev? Yes, no, I don’t believe it, there were quite decent people in those places, or what kind of cesspool do you live there? Type of settlement, or on the zone you wind the term? Then everything is clear, I sympathize.
              1. valerei
                valerei 1 June 2012 10: 49
                +2
                Passing, during his stay in his apartment for about 40 years, I was robbed 3 times, i.e., on average, once every 10 years. And not once !! the police not only didn’t help me, but even no one made an attempt to do something. There was a feeling that all my statements, after my departure from the investigator, were sent to the trash bin. I am sure that it was also in the RSFSR and the Ukrainian SSR.
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 1 June 2012 15: 50
                  +1
                  you need to be a complete and complete sucker so that you are regularly robbed and successful every time
            4. Ziksura
              Ziksura 31 May 2012 22: 19
              +2
              Quote: Kievite
              And what then to call the nation that hangs on the radio Chanson

              Where does the information come from ??? From the same sources ??? In Russia, as in any other country, people have a very different musical taste. And chanson, namely thieves, is sooooo far not in the lead. But there are people who see only what they want to see, such people are convinced of anything .........
            5. Fox 070
              Fox 070 1 June 2012 01: 08
              0
              Quote: Kievite
              Protect our cops from the corrupting influence of the West?

              Here are your cops and protect!
              1. valerei
                valerei 1 June 2012 10: 56
                +2
                And it's too late to defend the Russian cops. All to disperse and recruit new and trained in a new way. Although, knowing our mentality, it is unlikely that it will work without an appropriate ideology in their heads. And the question to fill in: who will lay this ideology? As the saying goes: "Who are the judges?" By the way, Fox 070, your nickname suits you very much, right to the point, cardboard half-colonel!
                1. Fox 070
                  Fox 070 1 June 2012 13: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: valerei
                  . To disperse everyone and to recruit new and trained in a new way

                  First, VALERA, I don’t have to poke,
                  Secondly, VALERA, but there are specific proposals for changing the situation in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, or are you just like that, have a drink ... did you get out?
                  Already got these disgruntled bawlers. Everyone knows about the cops' problems, but none of the talkers offered any solution other than "disperse everyone." And who will work? Is it good or bad, but they do their job, and what have you done?
                  You do not like my nickname, or envy gnaws at you, that you are far from even these stars? No need VALERA, envy is a bad feeling.
            6. lotus04
              lotus04 1 June 2012 03: 55
              +3
              Quote: Kievite
              And then how to call the nation that hangs on the radio Chanson and even the cops under the police department in new jeeps, obviously not bought for a salary, drive around in a circle "Zhigan-Limon" and "Vladimirsky Central"?


              I don’t remember that during the times of the “Iron Curtain”, ie the USSR, the cops drove in new jeeps and twisted in a circle “Vladimirsky Central.”
            7. Inzhengr
              Inzhengr 1 June 2012 11: 33
              +3
              There is such a concept "professional deformation", chanson in the ROVD is it, it is present in every profession and scientifically proven, people have nothing to do with it.
          2. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 31 May 2012 22: 07
            0
            In the photo is amerovskaya sivulf.
        4. alexander hjcnjd
          alexander hjcnjd 31 May 2012 22: 40
          -2
          Quote: Maroder
          Whom the traitor praises.
          who is scolded by that one and the traitor. And this is your glorious Vova Putin. He gave the Chinese the islands on Amur, Norway a huge chunk of the water area, handed over Libya. He brought a lot of money to the west. These are oil prices, if it’s not clear. And it’s immediately obvious that Vova didn’t get us out of any 90s. And the money for oil went somewhere, add gas, forest, biological resources, the growth of housing and communal services. And it’s all broken up. Or do you think that the person on top of the thieves vertical is not? The only difference with 90 is that oil prices have risen and instead of oligarchs money for raw materials and taxes is plundered by the top of the special services led by the Vova.
      2. 77bor1973
        77bor1973 31 May 2012 09: 16
        +11
        Incendiary material, I liked it, I think that the calculation of the CIA on the uneducated, but fortunately we don’t have many. They are fooling, and we teach children, mind-wisdom!
      3. Vadivak
        Vadivak 31 May 2012 09: 27
        +14
        Quote: Dimitr77
        Amer stupidly engaged in bullying


        It is absurd, but the Americans have an involuntary fear of Russian immigrants and at the same time reverence for Russian culture. That's where the dog rummaged and what they do not think about. Where does the culture come from?
      4. zavandrey59
        zavandrey59 31 May 2012 10: 11
        +12
        American judgments about Russia are not new, but in order for us to win the info war, we need to start it. Our Binom WILLs do not, for this, unlike the state leadership. Even Zadornov significantly reduced the onslaught on the United States. Annoyingly.
        1. Paratov
          Paratov 31 May 2012 12: 39
          +8
          Quote: zavandrey59
          Even Zadornov significantly reduced the onslaught on the United States. Annoyingly

          The main thing is that we do not even need to invent anything! It is enough to show America for what it is.
        2. Opertak
          Opertak 31 May 2012 14: 26
          +8
          Quote: zavandrey59
          Our Binoma WILLs, for this, unlike the state leadership, do not
          You are absolutely wrong. We wet them so that only crack is worth it - even Assange works for Russia Today. The fact is that Russians and Russians are much more educated and smart compared to Americans, so you can’t hang noodles on their ears. And you can say anything to the Americans - with their level of mental development, they will believe in any stupidity.
        3. sedoj
          sedoj 31 May 2012 21: 02
          +1
          Quote: zavandrey59
          but in order for us to win the info war, we need to start it

          To win the info war, you need to read or at least listen to this information. But what is pronounced in Russia and about Russia, the West is a damn thing.
          1. Opertak
            Opertak 31 May 2012 23: 44
            +1
            Quote: sedoj
            what is pronounced in Russia and about Russia, the West is a damn thing.
            That is why in the USA our correspondents are so often arrested :)))
      5. Ruslan
        Ruslan 31 May 2012 19: 21
        +3
        Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Probable causes of the alliance.
        So, yesterday an event was announced that a month ago seemed impossible. Clans of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers announced the formation of a strategic alliance. Of course, we are not able to get into the minds of these “great puppeteers” and understand exactly what goals they are pursuing with this alliance after almost 20 years of destruction. A war in which both families lost not only one family member, but also several closest employees. The war in which the Rothschilds actually drove the Rockefellers out of the banking business, but were forced to almost completely withdraw the real assets of the clan from the United States.

        However, we can try to suggest these goals, based on the available to us vision of the current world situation, as well as on the history of cooperation and confrontation of these clans. True, we have to admit that most of our reasoning should inevitably be classified as conspiracy theories. Also, I apologize for the fact that I will have to repeat part of the already written earlier.



        Until 1972, relations between clans, although they were relatively competitive, were still in a strategic sense partnership. The Rothschilds controlled the Fed, and the Rockefellers owned most of the real economy. Of course, we are talking not only and not so much about the families themselves, but about the clans headed by them.

        Moreover, based on a mystical attitude to the world (may my readers forgive me this approach), both clans should be perceived as the closest vassals of the throne of a certain superhuman essence, engaged in a struggle for a comfortable place at the foot of its throne. Such essence can be given as a religious meaning (Antichrist), and energy-information (egregore of money). The essence of this on the earthly plane will not change much. The main thing is that this is a certain unified rational force interested in gaining power over the world. And both clans are its tools for achieving world domination. It is no accident that the most important events of world history (revolution and war), as well as various civilizational trends (GMOs, sodomy, controlled chaos, chipization of the population) are firmly connected with these clans or foundations financed by them. And they go far beyond the scope of competition in the economic or even political sphere.

        After moving away from the gold standard in the first decade, the Rockefellers took advantage. This was facilitated by two consecutive oil crises in 1973 and 1980, as a result of which oil prices soared several times, providing enormous profits to the Rockefeller Standard Oil. Contracts for the production and development of new types of weapons from the "race" with the USSR brought no less profit to the clan. Finance, in this period, on the contrary, occupied a subordinate position. The system of non-inflationary money emission in these years has only been worked out and tested.

        But then the Rothschilds managed to take revenge. The US financial system, no less than the Soviet one, undermined by an endless arms race and especially the SDI program, required new approaches to financing the deficit. And the Rothschilds managed to solve this problem. In the 90s, the banking sector began to increasingly go out of focus and occupy an increasing share of US GDP. The era of the global economy has begun, in which the Rothschilds have enormous advantages in the form of a huge banking network controlled worldwide. Floating exchange rates, the possibility of unlimited speculation in financial instruments, the launch of numerous derivatives programs, all this led to gigantic opportunities to build up the profits of the Rothschild empire and gradually shift its balance in its direction. In just a few years, the virtual economy has shown that, unlike a real business, in which the rate of return is limited by competition, on the one hand, and the demand potential, on the other hand, in the financial sector, profitability is limited only by your ability to manipulate assets. And the Rothschilds weren’t in this competition either. When the assets behind you have no limits, and the assets of your competitors are limited exclusively by their own means, the result is predictable in advance. Moreover, with the collapse of the USSR, the objective need to maintain a high standard of living of the population in Europe and the USA fell away. Now this very population was slowly led to slaughter, taking away everything that was issued earlier. Of course, with interest. As a result of increased competition between the two global clans, the Rockefellers actually lost their part of the banking business (in favor of the Rothschilds), and at the same time they lost control over what was happening. According to the Rothschilds, the “control shot in the head” was to be a gigantic scam for replacing Fort Knox real gold with gilded tungsten pigs, carried out during the time of Clinton. Moreover, mind you. It was at this time that the English Rothschild Bank, which had been the leader of the gold trade in London for centuries, unexpectedly went out of business. Obviously, not to be associated with possible discoveries of fakes, due to go on sale in the market.

        The decisive battle for power over the United States broke out in the 2000 elections. Apparently, everyone remembers this story when the Rockefellers (in the person of Bush) literally with their eyebrows managed to capture the White House. Otherwise, they would have been finished long ago.

        And then came September 11, 2001, and as a result of the colossal sacrifice, the Rockefellers received several years of respite. During this period, the actual outcome of the Rothschild capital from the United States begins. They still controlled the largest banks, but the real assets of these banks began to be replaced by illegal Fed loans. That with full control over the latter, you see, is not so difficult. By 2008, everything was actually prepared for the default of the dollar. However, the victory of Obama, which meant a partial return of control over US policy, allowed to somewhat extend the agony of the system. At the same time, control was no longer complete. It is no coincidence that Obama’s circle of representatives of the Rockefeller clan is hardly less today than the representatives of the Rothschilds. This is what allowed the Rockefellers to begin counterplay, forcing the Rothschilds to think about how guaranteed their victory. The process of complicated maneuvering of the Parties, which agreed to temporarily leave the United States alone, began. The Rothschilds enthusiastically began to prepare for the debt crisis in Europe, and the Rockefellers set about continuing the World Oil Control Game, organizing the Arab Spring, and then the massacre in Libya. Surprisingly, the Rothschilds and in Libya managed to grab their piece. There is reason to believe that a hundred tons of Gaddafi's gold ultimately ended up in their bins.

        The external information background of recent years shows that until about the middle of last year, the Rothschilds considered themselves the clear winners in the race for world domination. Their main operating bank, Goldman Sachs, without hiding, inflated one bubble after another, drowned competitors and frankly profit from its own customers. He stood behind the provocation and the Greek debt crisis. Frankly, the Rothschilds had almost every reason for such a perception of the world.

        The USA can be brought down at any moment. The clan controls most of the world's gold reserves. Paper assets are profitably working in China, with whose leadership strategic agreements have been reached. China’s honesty in these arrangements is ensured by Russia's nuclear arsenal, as the clan controls the vast majority of the Russian shadow budget, not to mention the private capital of thousands of Russian officials. What, as they say, is needed to “look confidently into the future”?

        And suddenly everything changed. The entire list of what happened was not given to us. However, the obvious reorientation of Russia to an alliance with the Rockefellers (expressed externally in the Rosneft-Exxon instead of Rosneft-BP), the new election of Putin (not accidentally provoked such a brutal reaction in London and almost neutral in the USA), played not the weakest role in this process . Although the main was still an independent geopolitical game of China. With the full support of Russia and other BRIC countries (namely, BRIC, not BRICS. The appearance of South Africa in the "club" most likely indicates the agreement of the Rothschilds to some change in prospects). With its actions in the markets, China has explicitly stated that it is ready for the immediate issue of a convertible renminbi at any necessary scale. That is, China actually stated that it was he, and not the Rothschilds, who was ready at any time to organize a default of the dollar. At the same time, he is also ready to prevent the collapse of the Eurozone, which was an integral part of the Rothschild plans.

        In response, the Rothschilds made a desperate attempt to organize the victory of their proteges (Bo Xilai and others) in September in China. And again they lost. Now, finally. Now their own capitals in the Middle Kingdom were in jeopardy.

        The Rothschilds hastily began to bring to mind the base in Australia and to drive troops from the United States there to ensure security. But in any situation, these troops are not a panacea and can only protect the gold reserve from the robbers. But obviously they will not save recent lenders from the collective “collision”. I had to start again perceiving the USA as the only potential base guaranteeing the preservation of positions in the Big Game.

        All that has been said is the Rothschilds motivation for unification. And what is the Rockefeller interest in?

        Everything is more banal and simpler here. Rockefellers need the USA, outside of which, they are not Players. But for this, with the inevitable default (even through the hyper stage) of the dollar, you will have to pay with Russia and China. This is, at least, if they manage to bring their game to eliminate the monarchies of the Gulf to the desired ending. And for this you need gold. And the Rothschilds have gold of almost the whole world. So the alliance takes place on the basis of base and security in exchange for taking on part of the debts to external creditors.
      6. Yura
        Yura 31 May 2012 21: 32
        0
        Quote: Dimitr77
        They are on a grand scale trying to poison us all and everyone. It is time for us, too, to start winning the information war.
        I would also add that from this opus the CIA shown to us in the article is clearly visible, well, very clearly about the level of their intelligence, because they take all but themselves fools and this trait at the level of oligophrenia, they seriously think that it will be perceived, they are based on these Surveys substantiate their message about the device of their relationship with another state. It becomes terribly at the thought of what they are capable of, because the oligophrenics are not predictable, you can expect everything from them, and most importantly, they just won’t be able to become different, if you don’t destroy then you need to be fenced off with a concrete wall and the higher the better, let them eat themselves like that snake devouring its tail.
    2. YARY
      YARY 31 May 2012 08: 27
      +18
      USA SHOULD BE DESTROYED !!!
      -T O T A L N O-
      1. Reddragon
        Reddragon 31 May 2012 08: 43
        +4
        They are already decayed. Soon the crisis will help in this.
        1. vadimN
          vadimN 31 May 2012 11: 55
          +1
          However, they use the old, tried and tested method of overcoming the crisis - this is war! If they overcame minor adversities with "small victorious wars" in different corners of the globe, then they can overcome a serious crisis only by unleashing a large-scale war. If it is not possible to crush the resources by economic methods (which they successfully began to do with regard to Russia in the 90s), then the next step is military pressure up to a "democratizing invasion." The USA is the hotbed of a future world war!
        2. Alexander Petrovich
          Alexander Petrovich 31 May 2012 21: 59
          0
          Yes, God forbid, I did not begin to read the article, and so the head hurts, and yet their patient opinion was not enough for it. You should not expect anything good from them.
      2. pirate technician
        pirate technician 31 May 2012 08: 51
        +6
        Quote: Ardent

        USA SHOULD BE DESTROYED !!!
        -T O T A L N O-

        Ardent, I support you! The country created by criminals and other rascals calling themselves "freedom fighters" should cease to exist as a state!
        1. Belladonnaxl
          Belladonnaxl 1 June 2012 05: 42
          -1
          I am with you, brothers and fathers! It’s time for the liquid-Masonic lodge to make ends!;)))
          To destroy the total USA is a very lengthy task. A global fight against world evil is being waged by us locally! Capitalism and the arms race are what keep the world from being happy! localization on the neutralization of the Americanized NATO is simple and has reasons to boldly bring the punishing hand of justice over those who really make decisions there and give orders.
      3. Slayer
        Slayer 31 May 2012 08: 57
        +5
        Not laughter, but actually all over the world we are considered to be forever drunk pigs and I must say, not without reason, we just have to see how our tourists behave, and this is really sad.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 May 2012 09: 23
          +9
          Quote: Slayer
          but in fact, all over the world we are considered forever drunk pigs


          I would not be so categorical

          About 17% of the adult population of the United States suffers from drunken drunkenness. Such data are contained in a report prepared by specialists from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. According to the agency, in the country there are more than 38 million people who drink alcohol heavily.

          12.01.2012 10:08, source: "MedPortal"
          1. Inzhengr
            Inzhengr 31 May 2012 13: 15
            +4
            They have more on antidepressants, these are legalized drugs, a large percentage of the population lives in drug trafficking.
            1. 755962
              755962 31 May 2012 23: 27
              +1
              Quote: Engineering
              a large percentage of the population lives in drug trafficking.

              It’s easier to control their consciousness.
          2. Sleptsoff
            Sleptsoff 31 May 2012 16: 38
            +6
            In fact, we ourselves have already recognized ourselves as a drunken nation. For example, it is enough for me to look out the window in the evening to see teenagers drinking. And enough to constantly compare us with the states (which most of you know only from propaganda statues, an analogue of the aforementioned CIA), a feeling of some inferiority is created.
        2. RUSSIA75
          RUSSIA75 31 May 2012 23: 05
          +4
          Slayer, have you seen how the same Finnish tourists behave ... it was especially noticeable as soon as the border was opened. "Vanya" from the village "Kukuevo" just smokes nervously. We went here purely to crawl in their shit in the literal sense of the word. Now they have settled down a little, they have become more modest, but they eat the same way. I myself live on the border with Chukhland, that's why I know what I'm saying, I've seen enough of these "Europeans", God forbid :)))
        3. pribolt
          pribolt 1 June 2012 05: 52
          +4
          Slayer wanted to tell you about the answer RUSSIA75 we are not the only nation in the world who love alcoholic beverages, I once traveled a lot to work in Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden, Finland), so I will tell you what I saw there even defies description, people drink there to unconsciousness, and everything in a row, the fact is that alcoholic beverages in these countries are very expensive and therefore when they are treated they simply cannot stop they like "freebies" so to speak and you can believe me, I know because I had to stay there for a long time .Just like we have sick addicted "alcoholics" just smaller. And in other countries, too, I will not list everything for you, I have traveled almost half of the world. I think that the least drinker in Israel was there for about two months and somehow did not notice them (whatever you think about my priorities I’ll tell you, I’m not a Jew). I think that in this to change something, the excise tax should be increased. Moreover, not by 5-10%, but by 1000 or 2000%, and to fight home brewing is the only way to avoid rampant drunkenness. I understand that these are not popular measures, but this is just my opinion.
          1. DYMITRY
            DYMITRY 1 June 2012 07: 40
            0
            Quote: pribolt
            Moreover, not by 5-10%, but by 1000 or 2000%, and to fight against moonshine brewing is the only way to avoid rampant drinking. I understand that these are not popular measures among the people, but this is only my opinion.

            Something similar was already in the 85th. Consequences to recall?
          2. Inzhengr
            Inzhengr 1 June 2012 11: 13
            +1
            least drunk in Islamic countries
            1. Nickname
              Nickname 2 June 2012 00: 27
              +2
              Yes. I think no one will argue here.
              But, Engineer, I’ll write you:
              Today I met with my daughter (I am divorced and see each other on weekends Moscow). How are you asking?
              - Dad, yesterday not three Russians, probably the Chichens and my girlfriend in a corner of the house pressed them for 18 years to molest me ...
              - daughter 911!
              “Dad, you couldn't even take out your phone!” ....
              - So what?...
              - A man walked by and asked what problems. Those hid.
              And what, I have to pray for a pukin who in black ... kisses black ... puff? What kisses there! Moscow is already black ... share
              1. Vanek
                Vanek 5 June 2012 16: 57
                0
                Quote: Nickname
                Moscow is already black ... share


                Something like this.
          3. chukapabra
            chukapabra 2 June 2012 11: 47
            0
            Quote: pribolt
            .I think that they least consume alcohol in Israel, I was there for about two months and somehow I didn’t notice them (whatever you think about my priorities, I’ll tell you I'm not Jewish)

            But there is a quarter of our former people laughing
      4. Yoshkin Kot
        Yoshkin Kot 31 May 2012 09: 07
        -3
        give a machine? not? laughing
      5. ivachum
        ivachum 31 May 2012 09: 44
        +3
        "Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"

        "Also, I think Carthage must be destroyed" Cato the Elder

        am drinks
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 31 May 2012 09: 54
          +5
          This is a white house, do not destroy it, I’ll make a toilet in the oval office there. Free toilet.
    3. andrey586
      andrey586 31 May 2012 09: 22
      +5
      What is there to be surprised? Americans are always in geography and history were full oaks, so they believe in any nonsense
      1. Prorox
        Prorox 31 May 2012 10: 45
        +6
        What is there to be surprised at, amers consider history only what happened after the creation of the United States (I wonder why they have not yet invented their own calendar "the beginning of the world, after the creation of the United States"), geography is also not in tune since Iraq is from Iran, Austria from Australia cannot be distinguished, and Canada and Mexico are known only by the fact that you can go there if you break the law.
      2. vadimN
        vadimN 31 May 2012 12: 03
        +3
        And so that we ourselves believe that we are bad, all sorts of fursenki diligently make us the same oaks ... It is enough to read an article on education on the same site. Although some people expressed the opinion that the article was "not according to the profile of the site", but, in my opinion, very much according to the profile. The educational and cultural level of the population is the basis of state security.
    4. Skiff
      Skiff 31 May 2012 10: 30
      +3
      It's a shame for the power, the official state structure writes such a h ... where the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is where the bureaucrats are, where are the mirror reports, why there is no violent activity of the intelligentsia, patriotic parties and just parties. Besides bloggers, it feels like everyone .....
    5. Inzhengr
      Inzhengr 31 May 2012 11: 57
      +8
      The dear author wrote the article in a mocking tone and distorted a lot, tearing out phrases from the context of the original, making the CIA idiots. Could it be better to think over enemy information? History, of course, was filed in no way and identified in Asia. Otherwise, everything is fine, exhaust transport, soil erosion, even radioactive contamination in some places. So don’t take anyone for example. About religion it is said that these same 60-70% are non-believers, it’s just that they think that if they don’t go to church, then they don’t believe, hence the numbers. The population growth rate is real, even with migrants we cannot defeat high mortality. And why 219 place, because in the list of countries such semi-independent semi-states as Aruba, Cape Verde, etc. So think better before you laugh at your problems. Laughing at myself, of course, it’s easier to live, but I want our great the country was everywhere in the first places and at the beginning of the list by positive indicators.
      1. surkov
        surkov 31 May 2012 13: 59
        +2
        They threw the Russians "misinformation" like a hot water bottle that breaks it in complete rejection lol
        The CIA took a lively part in the collapse of the "USSR" and therefore they knew the situation with the country very well even then - and they PROVED BY BUSINESS! And now, even more so, in the know of all matters, because Russians are allowed to travel throughout the civilized world! Yes, and an important official "grab by the throat" about his incomprehensible personal deposits in the banks of the same civilized world, you can with even greater success!
        So, about awareness and participation in the processes you don’t need to worry, breathe deeper good
        1. give
          give 31 May 2012 15: 33
          +2
          And a little more about "stupid" Americans:

          Former soldier of the military-technical department of the General Staff of Russia, Colonel Vladimir Lazar, was found guilty of working for the US Department of Defense. The Moscow City Court sentenced him to 12 years in prison for espionage.

          In 2008 V. Lazar acquired raster images of 7 thousand topographic maps with information containing military secrets of Russia. After that, he went to Belarus, where through an intermediary he transferred optical disks with this information to his friend Alexander Lesment, who lives in Estonia.

          As Russian counterintelligence officers found out, he studied in the 1970s with V. Lazar A. Lesment for more than 15 years working for American military intelligence.

          It is interesting that the collector Gennady Sipachev, from whom V. Lazar acquired images, in 2010. was sentenced to four years for selling cards to US intelligence agencies over the Internet. He told operatives about who purchased collectibles from him.

          According to experts, topographic maps can be used for information support of flight missions for missiles of all types of basing, as well as for the preparation and conduct of ground operations. In this regard, their transfer to the military departments of other countries can cause significant damage to Russia's foreign security.
          1. Che
            Che 7 June 2012 08: 16
            +1
            give,
            Lazari and Lesments, where these shots come from. Mossad introduced or something. wassat Under the USSR, critters would have gone under the tower.
        2. Passing
          Passing 31 May 2012 15: 59
          -1
          Quote: surkov
          The CIA took a lively part in the collapse of the "USSR" and therefore they knew the situation with the country very well even then - and they PROVED BY BUSINESS!

          What did the CIA take part in? All agents were under a tight cap of the KGB. For the CIA, the collapse of the USSR was a surprise, they themselves talked about it. The USSR collapsed its own elite + oil prices below $ 10 at the most critical time.
          Another thing, when the KGB was dispersed, the CIA took a direct part in the pursuit of Russia with the help of the EBN, along with the corrupt code of shit-taking accomplices.
        3. smile
          smile 31 May 2012 16: 20
          +2
          surkov
          Don’t you lament. Or, have you even sold a sense of humor? It’s just here that you have been given a vivid example of their fooling their people, creating negative mythology and the image of Russia in the eyes of the already fooled population of countries that consider themselves to be the Western world. As if ray towers were already built (according to the Strugatsky). By the way, they have been trying to introduce a similar mythology for a quarter of a century, through marsh liberals (I call it for convenience - long ago before entering the square of the same name), to us ... unfortunately, we found it.
        4. Che
          Che 7 June 2012 08: 11
          0
          wassat surkov,
          This is Surkov propaganda - a repeat of 1000 times.
    6. vozn_ser
      vozn_ser 31 May 2012 15: 36
      +10
      A selection of demos on the topic of the article, it is bitter to realize that our Great Motherland does not exist and that every bastard reigns in the world.




    7. patline
      patline 31 May 2012 16: 10
      +3
      Well. Let them revel in their ignorance.
      But there are such interesting words:
      "... more facts about our carelessness, malfunctions, breakthroughs, marriage and so on ... Let these foreign donkeys do not see the forest itself behind the trees." I. Stalin
      1. Tatars
        Tatars 31 May 2012 17: 07
        +1
        Funny article
    8. nokki
      nokki 31 May 2012 17: 27
      +2
      The most interesting thing is that even Russian people living abroad believe this information! Just judging by my friends from social networks. How to explain this phenomenon?
      1. patline
        patline 31 May 2012 19: 25
        +2
        This phenomenon is called a zombie creator, he is a television box.
        Daily brainwashing is difficult to cure.
        1. 755962
          755962 31 May 2012 23: 41
          +1
          Laugh or cry ... The Internet got instructions for employees of a large American company working in Russia. In addition to the historical and geographical description, it had a whole section devoted to contemporary Russian realities.http://www.facenews.ua/news/2011/25377/
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 2 June 2012 11: 56
            0
            Quote: 755962
            .Internet got instructions for employees of a large American company working in Russia.

            Well, in general, quite accurately. The company does not want to make its employees a laughing stock because of differences in mentality and customs. Serious approach +
    9. Mut Anthony
      Mut Anthony 1 June 2012 18: 38
      0
      selbrat,
      Well, I am not particularly surprised by the content of this information. It was not the scouts who made it up, but people who were deliberately engaged in an information war against us.
      Correctly, or rather, these people are simply trying to degrade the Russian nation.
    10. Neighbor
      Neighbor 2 June 2012 05: 37
      +2
      wassat Recently came out the Amer film - Dictator. This is exactly what was filmed there. Like in Iran - some savages live, and the tyrant-ruler - insistently does not want to let democracy into his country - so as not to lose power. So it is about Russia - a similar opinion is imposed. How many Amersky films - where there are Russian characters - where the Russians look like stupid truncheons in felt boots - this is the best case. But Amer are heroes ..... - they save everyone from villains!
      Democracy is carried to the masses - so to speak! wassat
      Article - Class !!! More to such!
      Quote: Dimitr77
      Amer stupidly engaged in bullying.

      And there is am
      Quote: Fox 070
      America is a nation of semi-literate, zombie media, fat snobs

      good drinks
      Quote: Cadet787
      a nation of thieves and bandits

      good drinks
      How nice - that on this site - in addition to Judaism - there are so many competent, adequate people - Mother Russian Patriots! drinks
      Oooh .. - how much oranzhevizna came out! am
      People - wet Orangevizhevnu mercilessly. Right now they will whine again. wassat
      Oranzhevizna - you do not recognize yourself? - it is you!!!
  2. Yarbay
    Yarbay 31 May 2012 07: 57
    +14
    The fact that most Americans are illiterate or illiterate is no secret to anyone !!
    Recently, more and more convinced that this is no accident!
    Remembering Bush all these opuses * CIA experts * seem like flowers!
    I would like to know in more detail about the territorial claims of Azerbaijan ?? - just nonsense !!
    1. selbrat
      selbrat 31 May 2012 08: 25
      +16
      Quote: Yarbay
      The fact that most Americans are illiterate or illiterate is no secret to anyone !!

      Yes, soon we will have almost all of these, thanks to the skillfully imposed education system, and very similar to the American one.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 31 May 2012 09: 45
        +6
        the famous British politician Disraeli, describing the inaccuracies made by statisticians, once said: "There is a lie, there is a monstrous lie and there is statistics" - the American lie has long turned into statistics!
        1. Paratov
          Paratov 31 May 2012 12: 53
          +6
          Yarbay,
          The most interesting in the original source is the resources! It is immediately evident that the work was painstaking! .. And also in the economy section, where it is noted that Russia produces a full range of industrial goods, from rolling mills to textiles and from sugar beets to space rockets! ..
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 31 May 2012 15: 53
            +4
            Paratov !!
            You absolutely correctly noticed!
        2. give
          give 31 May 2012 15: 44
          -6
          And a little more about the "stupidity" and complete moral decay of the notorious Americans:
          The salaries of Americans, of course, vary significantly depending on qualifications, seniority and special skills, place of work and place of residence. Do not forget that the "middle class" in the United States is the bulk of the population, and the percentage of really rich people there is much higher than in other countries.

          America's Wage Categories

          The highest salaries in America are among top managers, successful lawyers, TV stars, doctors, whose earnings are more than $ 15,000 - $ 20,000 per month.

          The average level of salaries is for teachers (unlike Russia!), Bank employees, government employees, nurses and nurses (again, in comparison with us ...), average businessmen and many other categories whose earnings are $ 3,000 - $ 8,000 per month .

          Low income in the United States among laborers, wage earners, whose average income is around $ 2,000 per month.

          The money cycle in ... professions

          The United States is a country of great opportunity. Even if you have only 1 dollar in your pocket, you have a significant chance to turn it into a fortune after a number of years of successful work.

          Therefore, it is not in vain that tens of thousands of emigrants from all over the world come to this country every year, who are ready to do the most unskilled work for minimal money.

          Americans, unlike Russians, have a system of hourly wages. Minimum earnings vary from $ 5 to $ 8 per hour. For such money, as a rule, the most low-skilled workers work: loaders, sellers, dishwashers or cleaners in hotels.

          If you do not take into account the "stars" of show business, politicians and heads of large corporations, the most paid profession in the United States is the profession of a doctor. Ordinary medical staff have on average the salary of a plant director in Russia.

          Moreover, anesthesiologists have the largest income (approximately $ 200,000 annually). They are followed by surgeons, obstetrician-gynecologists, orthopedic dentists and therapists ($ 150,000 per year).

          Attorneys pay slightly higher than the middle class ($ 120,000 in annual income), then oilmen and marketing managers ($ 115,000).

          Officials, police and teachers have average incomes (from $ 40,000 to $ 80,000 annually).
          Less than them, in the range of $ 17,000 - $ 20,000, only cooks, bartenders, seamstresses, porters, etc. earn.

          US average salary

          The higher the prestige of work, the higher the hourly wage. The average salary in the US in 2011 is approximately $ 25 per hour.

          According to the latest statistics, the average salary in the USA in terms of the monthly level was $ 3,906, and in Russia, respectively, $ 672 (which is 5,8 times lower).

          Obtaining sufficient income, Americans still live on credit (on credit). For example, to study at a university, you need a pretty decent amount of money (from $ 5,000 to $ 35,000 per year), which is not available to all applicants.

          Americans do not have the usual vacation in our understanding. Resting there is not profitable, since this time is not paid from special funds. Their vacations are discussed in the employment contract. On their own initiative, citizens "idle" no more than 10 days a year (excluding weekends and public holidays).

          Americans' Extra Income

          Additional income for most Americans is bank deposits, reliable blue-chip stocks, government bonds with real guarantees from the federal authorities to return any deposit up to $ 250,000 if an American bank goes bankrupt or goes bankrupt.

          As a result, more than 80% of families have 1 - 2 cars each, without thinking much about the prices of their cars, bank deposits, keep various securities of federal and municipal loans, not to mention other small benefits: luxury real estate with 3 - 5 bedrooms and the same number of bathrooms, central air conditioning systems for all rooms, two-compartment refrigerator, plasma TV, jacuzzi, "fancy" computers connected to unlimited Internet and much more ...
          The picture shows the minimum hourly salary for 2011:
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 31 May 2012 15: 57
            +1
            salary is not an indicator of mental abilities!
            1. Shuriken
              Shuriken 31 May 2012 20: 09
              +1
              And soon all these buzzes will come tryndets!
            2. chukapabra
              chukapabra 2 June 2012 12: 04
              0
              Quote: Yarbay

              salary is not an indicator of mental abilities

              That's for sure, but if they are so smart, why are they so poor? And why is it all through ... And why be smart, if you cannot provide for yourself and your family (This is not about you, but in general).
              In general, different things can be smart and successful, but I did not see rich fools (if they did not inherit capital)
          2. Opertak
            Opertak 31 May 2012 16: 04
            +7
            Dea, you are incompetent and lying (if you intentionally) or just messing around (if unknowingly).
            1. An American DOES NOT KNOW what a monthly salary is. They have an annual income and this is not at all what our salary is, so all that you brought is a bluff.
            2. Almost all Americans of active age are beggars; live "off the wheels" - received and immediately wasted everything on NECESSARY needs. The first money an American has, which he can put into a bank account (for saving) or buy blue chips, appears with the average American by the age of 50.
            3.
            Quote: dea
            As a result, more than 80% of the family have 1 - 2 cars, not thinking much about the prices of their cars,
            - bullshit, even if only because the American auto industry has pumped its market with Japanese cars because of their cheapness.
            Dea, I got the impression that you have not seen a single living American in your life, and write only according to data from the Internet. Do not forget - on the fence XXX is written, and there really is firewood.
            PS It is precisely because Americans live exactly as I wrote, the USA is the largest consumer of psychotropic drugs in the world, the American lives in eternal fear and therefore eats soothing pills from morning till night by handfuls and this problem is recognized by America itself.
            1. chukapabra
              chukapabra 2 June 2012 12: 21
              0
              Quote: OperTak
              Dea, I got the impression that you have not seen a single living American in your life

              If you have American citizenship, relatives, and of course visiting this country at least once or twice a year, I’ll say

              Quote: OperTak
              An American DOES NOT KNOW what a monthly salary is. They have annual income and it’s not at all what our salary is, so all that you brought is a bluff.

              It’s not true, hourly hours are the principle of salaries in America. There are firms paying once a week, there are once a month. Almost at will. Annual income is the amount at which taxes are paid. (Once a year 0. But there are companies that immediately withhold taxes (optional), and in the annual report a correction is made, or pay extra or get a refund.
              Quote: OperTak
              Almost all Americans of active age are beggars, i.e. live off the wheels

              As in the whole world. from paycheck to paycheck, children, houses, apartments (everything has to be paid 0 but why is it poor. It earns, pays. It’s creditworthy. It allows itself what it can. As elsewhere. Of course, there are families with different incomes. But who wants to work, have borders no .
              Quote: OperTak
              The first money an American has, which he can put into a bank account (for saving) or buy blue chips, appears with the average American by the age of 50.

              Tales, stupidity and nonsense. no need to generalize, as everywhere in the world. There are Successful, smart and rich (professionals and specialists), and there is a complete swamp and plankton. Like everywhere.

              Quote: OperTak
              As a result, more than 80% of families have 1 - 2 cars each, not thinking much about the prices of their cars, - bullshit,

              Really nonsense. Because there are 2-3, or even more. Each member has seven over 18 years old, usually his own car.

              Quote: OperTak
              Precisely because Americans live exactly as I wrote, the USA is the largest consumer of psychotropic drugs in the world, the American lives in eternal fear and therefore eats soothing pills from morning till night by handfuls and this problem is recognized by America itself.

              Someone is eating pills, someone is drinking vodka, someone is running around for women, and in Sweden and Norway there are more suicides (and what they seem to be missing) In general, people often want to be artificially happy (or rather be happy), but the methods are different. The availability of psychotropics (soothing) in America is such that many abuse them (by the way, for general knowledge, valerianand in the States the same applies to them, then we have 75% of grandmas just get zombies)
              If in Russia heroin is consumed more than in the United States (with a population 3 times smaller) does this make all Russians dope?
          3. smile
            smile 31 May 2012 16: 28
            +4
            give
            An interview with Brzezinski was recently published in which he lamented the mental development of Americans. According to him, a school system in which geography is not taught, and only American history is studied (and so on) will lead the United States to collapse. As examples, he cited the results of polls - on the world map, the territory of the Atlantic Ocean, painted in blue, a third of college graduates were designated as "an unknown country", etc. there was a lot, too lazy to look (you can search on the website of "Komsomolskaya Pravda"). You know, I believe Brzezinski more than you, maybe you will believe him too? .... if such a hardened foe says this, then .... but I don’t like Zadornov, but sometimes it turns out that he’s right.
            1. chukapabra
              chukapabra 2 June 2012 12: 25
              -2
              Quote: smile
              Brzezinski’s interview was recently published in which he lamented the mental development of Americans. According to him, the school system, in which geography is not taught, and only American history is studied (etc.) will lead the USA to collapse

              Give a reference, preferably to the original, otherwise the translation from English into Komsomol is not always correct.
          4. gans
            gans 31 May 2012 17: 10
            +3
            well, complete crap, it was especially ridiculous that they do not know the price of their cars, but they are ready to strangle themselves for every dollar
          5. vozn_ser
            vozn_ser 31 May 2012 17: 55
            +5
            Here every shumlov, then s, then the Bulgarians, now the Netherlands, got divorced. But even so, you understand that these are our home-grown Bendera!
          6. Captain45
            Captain45 31 May 2012 18: 48
            -1
            Quote: dea
            According to the latest statistics, the average salary in the USA in terms of the monthly level was $ 3,906, and in Russia, respectively, $ 672 (which is 5,8 times lower).

            It would be nice if you attached others to these figures, characterizing the costs of rent, products, insurance and loans.
            1. Alexey Prikazchikov
              Alexey Prikazchikov 31 May 2012 22: 26
              +1
              Look at the price level. Firstly, secondly, there is a high degree of omulnation. Thirdly, a lot of loans. Believe me, they live really the same as we just. The specifics of life is different and that’s all, and judging by the flag, it’s not their Russian Federation and have not been here for a long time.
            2. chukapabra
              chukapabra 2 June 2012 12: 49
              -1
              Quote: Captain45
              It would be nice if you attached others to these figures, characterizing the costs of rent, products, insurance and loans.

              Credits are such a thing - how much you collect. bad business is not tricky. in statistics they do not what.
              Food (I’ll just say something about it (although the attitude towards salary does not play a last role, but as a person who is in Russia, regularly visits America and lives in Israel, I will say this.
              Food in America for their salary costs practically nothing, 200 bucks a person is saturated without problems. In Israel, everything except beef and sausages and cheeses is cheaper than in Russia, but much more expensive than in America (except vegetables)
              2. Health insurance in America is very expensive (depending on the degree of coverage of diseases, operations, etc.). Isail pays a tax of 5% of the salary (those who do not work do not pay, are insured by the state). You can buy additional insurance. giving the right to choose a doctor (from the head of the department to the professor and hospitalization in private clinics) is somewhere around 30 bucks a month per person. A visit to the doctor in the outpatient clinic is 2.5 bucks. There is nothing to pay anywhere else (except for medicines) if you are lying in the hospital, of course, the drugs are free. like everything. In hospitals, no one pays anything to anyone. I don’t want to compare with Russia, you yourself know
              3. Housing and communal services taxes, America - it all depends on the place of residence, a richer quarter, more expensive municipal tax. House maintenance depends on the services, but the prices are digestible and people do not bother. In Israel, for some reason I have less for a 5-room apartment than a friend in a kopeck piece in the regional center of the Leningrad Region. In general, no one can send the bill from the bulldozer. Because immediately to court. Management companies have the same (as in my house) there are houses that are managed by themselves. The company in front of us is walking on the road. The house is not poor, but if, in their place, a dozen or so will come running tomorrow. Therefore, of course, no one works at a loss. but everything is according to the contract, without a greyhound and civilly. Let's just say that the house has 2 elevators, 14 floors, parking for 2 cars for each apartment, daily cleaning, territory with flowers, trees (i.e. watering and gardeners). All the breakdowns in the elevators are at the expense of the company, the malfunctions in the house are the same. The house pays separately only for the replacement of light bulbs, or some kind of damaged pumps. Everything is paid from the fund of the house (including the management company, of course, the contributions are such that there is something left at the box office, and not everything goes to the management company.) So each apartment pays 45 bucks a month.
          7. Alexey Prikazchikov
            Alexey Prikazchikov 31 May 2012 22: 25
            0
            Schoolgirl from Texas received a prison sentence for working hard ("The Daily Beast", USA)
            Joie Chen

            http://www.inosmi.ru/usa/20120531/192906815.html


            The judge awarded a prison sentence to an Asian-American high school student for working on several jobs to support her family and skipping classes. This terrible punishment clearly speaks of how a country treats its minorities.

            Diane Tran is the teenager from the “ideal Vietnamese-American minority” you think you know. She is an honors student at Willis, Texas, an advanced program and two jobs to help her siblings. He hopes one day to go to medical school and become a doctor.

            And here is what you did not expect: last week, Diane Tran spent the night in prison. What crime? For absenteeism. Due to the difficult financial situation in the family, she had to get to work - any that a 17-year-old girl managed to find. Working at night and on weekends, Diane managed to cope with the workload.

            Of course, the girl was tired, and on some days missed classes or came to school later than others. In Texas, this is enough to get you into trouble with the law. Diane appeared before Montgomery County Judge Lanny Moriarty, who decided that an excellent student should first learn responsibility. So he sentenced her to prison and a fine of $ 100.

            He really made that decision. He could not do otherwise. A local journalist explained the details of this case to me. Justice Moriarty said he could not give a "soft" decision in a case of this kind. “If one of them gets away with it, then what should we do with the rest?” The judge asked during an interview with KHOU-TV. “Let everyone go too?”


            Moriarty paid for his decision in the virtual world, where more than $ 90 in donations and more than 000 signatures have already been collected for Diane to revoke the court's decision. The point is that her "criminal record" could seriously diminish her chances of getting into a good college.
            On Wednesday evening, it became known that Moriarty withdrew the charge of disobedience to the court, which means that this item can be removed from the Diane case.

            However, he can no longer change anything about the night that Diane spent in prison.
            The judge also cannot withdraw the attention that he attracted to this topic. Considering what Diane faced, she risks turning from an excellent student into a representative of more sad statistics.

            Of all the ethnic groups in the United States, Southeast Asian children are most likely to be expelled from high school. It's true. One-third of high school students of Asian-American descent either drop out of school or are expelled.

            Incredible, you say? What about "mother tigers"? How about the respect that Asian expats have for American education? And what about the high representation of Asian-American boys and girls in the country's top universities?

            "Diane's story is typical of many Southeast Asians," says C N Le, head of the Faculty of Asian Studies at the University of Massachusetts Amherst. Especially for recent emigrants who fled their countries due to armed conflicts or for political reasons. Refugee parents come with lower educational background, limited English proficiency and modest finances. Therefore, their children often drop out of school to help their parents and provide financial assistance to their families.

            In refutation of yet another myth about the "ideal minority", one can state that there are many more poor Asians in our country than you might think. 14% of Asian-American citizens live below the poverty line, more than the American population as a whole.

            The professor says that for a young American like Diane Tran, the obstacles to an academic education are enormous. "The starting line is far behind them - more than for the rest of the guys. To aggravate the tragedy by punishing them is unfair."

            We do not know what Diane herself thinks about all this. After the first statement, which she made in tears, she refused to give any interviews until Friday, because this week annual exams are being held at Willis High School, and Dianne Tran takes her studies very responsibly.

            Look at the price level. Firstly, secondly, there is a high degree of omulnation. Thirdly, a lot of loans. Believe me, they live really the same as we just. The specifics of life is different and that’s all, and judging by the flag, it’s not their Russian Federation and have not been here for a long time.
          8. Фокус
            Фокус 31 May 2012 23: 44
            0
            Quote: dea
            the most paid in the US is the medical profession. Ordinary medical staff on average have the salary of the director of a plant in Russia.

            Moreover, anesthesiologists have the largest income (approximately $ 200,000 annually). They are followed by surgeons, obstetrician-gynecologists, orthopedic dentists and therapists ($ 150,000 per year).
            probably this is why the USA is the worst medicine of all developed economies, even in Russia medicine is more accessible than in the USA.
          9. Che
            Che 1 June 2012 14: 18
            +1
            give,
            Try to leave on vacation - you will be left without work. FAQ
      2. give
        give 31 May 2012 15: 56
        -7
        In order to understand a little bit the difference between poverty and stupidity in Russia and the USA, here are some figures for the highest salaries in the USA in the crisis year of 2009:

        1. The surgeon (surgeon) - $ 219,770 ($ 105.66)
        2. Anesthesiologist (anesthesiologist) - $ 211,750 ($ 101.80)
        3. Oral and maxillofacial surgeon - $ 210,710 ($ 101.30)
        4. Orthodontist (orthodontist) - $ 206,190 ($ 99.13)
        5. Obstetrician-gynecologist (obstetrician & gynecologist) - $ 204,470 ($ 98.31)
        6. General specialist in internal medicine (internist - general) - $ 183,990 ($ 88.46)
        7. Therapist and surgeon (physician and surgeon) - $ 173,860 ($ 83.59)
        8. Family doctor (family & general practitioner) - $ 168,550 ($ 81.03)
        9. The general director (chief executive, CEO) - $ 167,280 ($ 80.43)
        10. Psychiatrist (psychiatrist) - $ 163,660 ($$ 78.68)
        11. Specialist in general pediatrics (pediatrician - general) - $ 161,410 ($ 77.60)
        12. General dentist (dentists - general) - $ 156,850 ($ 75.41)
        13. Specialized dentist (dentists, other specialties) - $ 153,570 ($ 73.83)
        14. Orthopedic specialist in legs (podiatrist) - $ 131,730 ($ 63.33)
        15. Lawyer (lawyer) - $ 129,020 ($ 62.03)
        16. Manager in the field of natural sciences (natural sciences manager) - $ 127,000 ($ 61.06)
        17. Orthopedist (prosthodontist) - $ 125,400 ($ 60.29)
        18. The manager in the field of engineering (engineering manager) - $ 122,810 ($ 59.04)
        19. Manager in the field of computer and information systems (computer and information systems manager) - $ 120,640 ($ 58.00)
        20. Marketing manager (marketing manager) - $ 120,070 ($ 57.73)
        21. Petroleum engineer - $ 119,960 ($ 57.67)
        22. Pilot, flight engineer (airline pilot, copilot, flight engineer) - $ 117,060 (NA)
        23. Company finance manager, inspector (treasurer, controller) - $ 113,730 ($ 54.68)
        24. The financial manager (financial manager) - $ 113,730 ($ 54.68)
        25. Sales manager (sales manager) - $ 111,570 ($ 53.64)
        The first figure is the average salary per year, in brackets is the average hourly wage!
        Figures are given without annual bonuses, which may be higher than the annual salary. Ie real income even more!
        I remind you - the numbers in the CRISIS 2009!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 31 May 2012 16: 16
          +4
          dea !! you wrote muinyu!
          What is the number of doctors and managers named by you ??
          How many years to study as a doctor?
          cited examples of the highest paid professions!
          Our oil industry and managers get even more, so what ??
          is it an indicator of education?
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 2 June 2012 12: 52
            -2
            Quote: Yarbay
            Our oil industry and managers get even more, so what ??
            is it an indicator of education?

            Well, in Russia there is generally no connection between one and the other. But you studied in England (as you say), what do you say about this? In England, probably all the same, the more educated, as a rule, the more they earn. laughing
        2. uizik
          uizik 31 May 2012 19: 40
          +1
          This is not an education level, this is the price of a profession.
        3. Michael 9999
          Michael 9999 3 June 2012 08: 45
          +1
          where is the cardiologist? the most expensive doctor and why is the anastasiologist lower than the surgeon, although you wrote the opposite above? and in general, the pilot who is only 3 points higher than the seller is that for ........... and a PPSnik for 3 pieces per month is the lowest level according to your own classification, while I do not know how anyone but me, for example the thought that I still have to pay 20 years for an apartment loads more than the price of sausage at a particular moment, maybe that's why the most expensive doctors are cardiologists and plastic surgeons and psychoanalysts are an invention of American health care, because we only need to drink to find an interlocutor and not pay to "talk about it" yes -a looked again the list of the accountant and the pilot earn the same measure of responsibility means the same have questions about values?
        4. Docker76
          Docker76 5 June 2012 17: 40
          0
          .... I, in the 90s and a half million received)))
    2. give
      give 31 May 2012 14: 23
      +1
      Yarbay-
      please explain to illiterate Americans this information:
      The former deputy of the Kushchevsky municipal council from United Russia and an accomplice of the high-profile murder in the village, Sergei Tsepovyaz, got off with a fine. Harboring the murder of 12 people will cost him only 150 thousand rubles.

      The court recognized that S. Tsepovyaz knew about the murder and was closely connected with the leader of the Kushchevskaya organized crime group Sergey Tsapk, with whom they worked in the municipal council, but did not begin to deprive the former United Russia freedom.

      It is noteworthy that earlier the prosecutor's office demanded that S. Tsepovyaz be sentenced to a fine of 200 thousand rubles, but the court also reduced this amount.

      The opposition noted the controversial decision of the Krasnodar court, emphasizing the fact that an accomplice to a high-profile murder can get off with a fine, and violators of the rules for holding rallies and hooligans from Pussy Riot end up behind bars. Alexei Navalny called the court's decision "unbearable trash."

      The oppositionists also recall the promises of the governor of the Krasnodar Territory, Alexander Tkachev, to resign if "the participants in the murder pay off the punishment."

      The village of Kushchevskaya received all-Russian fame after in November 2010. there was a murder of 12 people. A group of Moscow investigators set off for the Kuban, who established that over the course of several years several hundred grave and especially grave crimes, including murder, rape, and extortion, were committed in the village because of the connivance of law enforcement agencies.

      And please explain to illiterate Americans - what kind of crown we are talking about in the picture:
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 31 May 2012 15: 55
        0
        give
        what for?? why did you decide that I am a crime news commentator ??
        and how can one explain something to the illiterate ??
      2. Opertak
        Opertak 31 May 2012 16: 20
        +4
        Quote: dea
        please explain to illiterate Americans this information:
        The former deputy of the Kushchevsky municipal council from United Russia and an accomplice of the high-profile murder in the village, Sergei Tsepovyaz, got off with a fine. Harboring the murder of 12 people will cost him only 150 thousand rubles.
        - but this is just the bad influence of the United States and Western democracy on Russia, in Soviet times this would NOT HAPPEN at all, but they were put up against the wall for murder. You have imposed your bad "values" on us and now you are trying to kick us for it. BRAVO! :))))))))))))))
        1. 755962
          755962 31 May 2012 23: 53
          +1
          The national unemployment rate has attracted a lot of attention, and recently more attention has been paid to the level of labor force participation, when many Americans stopped looking for work, but we can still see that an astounding number of 100 million Americans are unemployed. http://mixednews.ru/archives/18381
          1. Inzhengr
            Inzhengr 1 June 2012 11: 22
            -1
            Americans without a job receive benefits greater than our salary, approx. 900 $
      3. Фокус
        Фокус 31 May 2012 23: 58
        +2
        Quote: dea
        dea NL Today, 15:44

        Quote: dea
        dea DE Today, 15:56

        Quote: dea
        dea FR Today, 14:23


        dea - you are under different flags, tell me whose spy? And you say that the Americans are not stupid, that there are not more smart "programmers" in the CIA, all have left for China.
      4. RUSSIA75
        RUSSIA75 1 June 2012 00: 50
        +1
        ABOUT GEORGIAN SEEING!
    3. chukapabra
      chukapabra 2 June 2012 11: 58
      -3
      Quote: Yarbay
      Remembering Bush all these opuses * CIA experts * seem like flowers!

      Yes Onishchenko with Zhirik-also rule.
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 31 May 2012 07: 59
    +15
    Sincere thanks to the author. According to the article, to whom, is it not yet clear? The diagnosis is clear.
  4. Vanek
    Vanek 31 May 2012 08: 04
    +16
    Like, these unshaven Russian Vanka would have turned closer to the West

    As Vanka say: - Never!
    1. DYMITRY
      DYMITRY 31 May 2012 08: 49
      +12
      Quote: Vanek
      As Vanka say: - Never!

      Well, why so categorically? Just the phrase is not fully worded. It would have been like this: Like, these unshaven Russian Vanka would have turned closer to the West, but would have screwed the pork snout with all the foolishness !!!!
      In this context, in my opinion, it sounds very good.
    2. Prorox
      Prorox 31 May 2012 10: 50
      +6
      Quote: Vanek
      As Vanka say: - Never!


      The last time Vanya was in 1945!
  5. pribolt
    pribolt 31 May 2012 08: 08
    +10
    Bravo Alexey article5 +. As always, it's great "why the American ambassador hasn't cackled from bird flu ..." I suggest you write a report on the United States. lol
  6. Armata
    Armata 31 May 2012 08: 08
    +9
    Thanks a lot to the author, he started "+" in the morning. The fact that they are stupid and we have known this for a long time, but if you think about it, it is very beneficial for Russia, then that they underestimate us gives us a huge advantage.
  7. Che
    Che 31 May 2012 08: 14
    +6
    What is interesting to attribute their abominable acts and actions to Russia. Russia did not carry out genocide against the indigenous population of the developed territories, and the history of Russia goes far into pre-Christian times. Its religion, language and culture, later destroyed during the imposition of Christianity by the West.
  8. Vanek
    Vanek 31 May 2012 08: 18
    +8
    The largest amount of text in the "Geography of Russia»

    I hope this is not Volodin wrong.

    Is Zimbabwe not interested in the Kuril Islands?

    Let Alaska be returned to begin with. Then they tell us to learn history starting with Gorbachev.
    1. pribolt
      pribolt 31 May 2012 22: 41
      +1
      Not Only Alaska Still Part of California
  9. Antarec
    Antarec 31 May 2012 08: 25
    +4
    He can hire these CIA employees to write notes in our humorous magazines and amuse us. Well they do it.
    1. NUT
      NUT 31 May 2012 10: 24
      +16
      Quote: Antarec
      He can hire these CIA employees to write notes in our humorous magazines and amuse us. Well they do it.
      Eric - Amer has somehow strayed into our lands. extreme.
      At night, a pinch of zero, the guide-translator calls - Lenka is hysterical: "Save! .. Eric got poisoned! ... Urgently !!! ..."
      I flew with him to the medical unit, there I got some pills and exhaustive information, intelligibly, in plain text, about myself and my mental abilities ...
      We flew to the area. "hops - suneli" from the amer from all holes ...
      Passed it to the district doctors ...
      In the morning the same Lenka: "Save! ... Take away! ... Urgently! ..."
      Agreed, took leave, exchanged, arrived, waiting, come out;
      Eric says something intensively, Elena laughs no less intensively, already $$ pokes $ I.
      This extreme is sure that he has fallen into the clutches of the KGB;
      He was poisoned, brought without any problems to a secret military facility (noticed a bitch), where the officer received further instructions, then he was taken and thrown into the "KGB dungeons" disguised as a provincial hospital.
      He made these conclusions from the fact that no one asked his name in the hospital, did not check the documents, insurance, did not take and did not conduct any tests or other mandatory procedures in their states.
      The unfortunate tourist was brought to a dark back street (not a single lantern). Two, perfectly physically prepared, drunk special employees. services were pushed into the cell by force (in an infectious room up to the ceiling, a terrible tile, a window with a grate under the ceiling, a metal table and a couch, a rusty enameled basin, Sov. toilet and sink) and cursed with terrible torture;
      They stripped them by force and threw them on the couch, in huge quantities poured something in the ass and forced them to drink a terrible red liquid from a huge dirty glass container and these tortures were unbearable and endless ...
      On requests to call the official representatives of the consulate or make one tel. the bell, the women answered with dirty curses ...

      It is interesting that he tells about us there .... belay
    2. Captain45
      Captain45 31 May 2012 18: 52
      +5
      Pity Zadornov, you want to take a piece of bread from a person.
  10. volcano
    volcano 31 May 2012 08: 29
    +14
    Thanks to the author. Threw Temko.
    Here again, once again I propose, take and write US History.
    In truth, without any political correctness. Then the world will be surprised. To start from the extermination of the Indians, to go through slavery, through all aggressive wars, to remind the ungrateful USA that it was the fleet of the Russian Empire that saved the North American states in the civil war of the North and South, as well as (there is such infa) that in the war for US independence 2 Russian regiments sent by Catherine to help the amers took a direct part. Oh, our Sovereigns would know what kind of snake on their chest they were warming. It might be recalled that the indigenous population was exterminated, including with the help of smallpox epidemics spread by the colonists, that even before the 70s of the 20th century (at least) they continued to treat Negroes as second-rate people, and also that Americans are the most stupid nation, therefore, their presidents will not be able to compare even with a Russian schoolboy ...... and much more can be written about this country, which is actually a hotbed of cynicism, lies, vice, deceit and double standards. This is the most disgusting state on the planet.
    This story should be spread with fanfare throughout Russia, launched into the world, so to speak. Why be almond? After all, as they say, the masks are torn off, and we see who is who. We must take a hit and fight back. Here, in no case should you follow the saying "We are smarter, we will keep silent."
    1. KuigoroZHIK
      KuigoroZHIK 31 May 2012 11: 49
      +6
      Greetings, Andrew!
      even before the 70s of the 20th century (at least) they continued to treat blacks as second-rate people


      Visual confirmation:

      Dog Laika was sent into space, knowing in advance that she would die. After that, a letter from a group of women from the state of Mississippi arrived at the UN. They demanded that the inhuman treatment of dogs in the USSR be condemned and put forward a proposal: if for the development of science it is necessary to send living creatures into space, in our city there are as many blacks.
      1. chukapabra
        chukapabra 31 May 2012 12: 44
        -14
        Quote: Kuygorozhik
        even before the 70s of the 20th century (at least) they continued to treat blacks as second-rate people

        Well, yes, in Russia, some Uzbeks or Tajiks are treated as equals. Well, it’s just not a country, but a model of tolerance, from attitudes towards foreigners, Gaster, blue and women. Do not be ugly, look at your garden.
        1. Passing
          Passing 31 May 2012 16: 16
          +6
          Under the USSR, Uzbeks or Tajiks were treated normally. Maybe with a slight degree of superiority in general, but it's more like an elder brother to a stupid younger one. Agree, the difference with the American approach to the citizens of your country is fundamental.
          Another thing now is that Tajiks and Uzbeks themselves crossed themselves out of the Russian brotherhood of nations, and even more so, these states are quite hostile towards Russia.
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 31 May 2012 21: 48
            -5
            Quote: Passing by
            Under the USSR, Uzbeks or Tajiks were treated normally. Maybe with a slight degree of superiority in general, but it's more like an elder brother to a stupid younger one.

            Oh well . it was only 25 years ago

            Quote: Passing by
            Another thing now - Tajiks and Uzbeks themselves crossed themselves out of the Russian brotherhood of the people

            So they never were Russian, why don't you sign up for the Uzbek brotherhood of peoples, as a sign of tolerance and friendship of peoples?
    2. vadimN
      vadimN 31 May 2012 12: 07
      +3
      Oh, in vain the Russian fleet then helped these reptiles ....
    3. chukapabra
      chukapabra 31 May 2012 12: 40
      -12
      Quote: volkan
      Here again, once again I propose, take and write US History.

      in the history of any country, you can dig up as much shit as you like and compose even more because in general, no one will check, and the investigator's view is very tendentious. Any story can be turned upside down as you like, then prove that it’s not d.u.r.a.k. There are 150 opinions on the problem a week ago, but about 200-300-500-1000 years ago, who knows the truth and why the event happened.? Live in the present, life is short, create conditions for the children to live better.
      1. ESCANDER
        ESCANDER 31 May 2012 21: 19
        +3
        “Live in the present” - here you, the engineer, are wrong.
        You don’t live in the present, do you plastify for the “promised land”? The roots, huh? Here and others they have, called "History".
        But this story shows that we did not conquer our territory to take away the territory, they did not determine the reservation and the Lynch court from the Ku Klus Klan did not arrange it.
        And also, in World War II they fought with us on an equal footing and did not spit on them “just because they were a niger”, unlike some ...
        1. chukapabra
          chukapabra 31 May 2012 21: 51
          -4
          Quote: ESCANDER
          that we didn’t conquer our own so as to take away the territory

          Learn the materiel. On the Crimean wars, Polish, Ermak, Kazan.

          Quote: ESCANDER
          they did not determine the reservation

          Read about the Pale of Settlement

          Quote: ESCANDER
          Lynch court of the Ku Klus Klan did not suit.

          Read about the Black Hundreds.
          In general, read the story.
          1. ESCANDER
            ESCANDER 1 June 2012 06: 48
            +3
            chukapabra

            Well, you "learned materiel", historian!
            The initiative of Yermak’s campaign, according to the annals, belonged to Yermak himself, and the participation of the Stroganovs in supplying the Cossacks with supplies and weapons.
            And about Kazan - did local aborigines live and live there? The conquerors of the Tatar-Mongols of the Golden Horde formed the Kazan Khanate, and overlaid the local with the collection of yasak.
            You see, I have my own edition of History there.
            1. chukapabra
              chukapabra 1 June 2012 07: 36
              -3
              Quote: ESCANDER
              The initiative of Yermak’s campaign, according to the annals, belonged to Yermak himself, and the participation of the Stroganovs in supplying the Cossacks with supplies and weapons.

              Just what is the trip for? Take a look at his letter to Ivan the Terrible
              Quote: ESCANDER
              about Kazan - did local aborigines live and live there? The conquerors of the Tatar-Mongols of the Golden Horde formed the Kazan Khanate, and overlaid the local with the collection of yasak.

              As I understand it, Russians lived there and Grozny freed them? fool
              You rarely see big delirium. The Kazan Khanate was conquered for one purpose - to increase the Russian lands
              At that time, all countries expanded territories with wars, Russia is no exception
              1. ESCANDER
                ESCANDER 1 June 2012 11: 47
                +3
                chukapabra

                A letter to Ivan the Terrible - are you talking about the Pogodinsky Chronicle? Everything is described there very briefly: "I defeated the Siberian king with his children and the army, and defeated the king’s brother." Well, and what thoughts did this letter prompt you?
                And before the Tatars, there were Bulgars in this territory. By the way, those who deserved to live in a peaceful neighborly way could not get what they deserved. There was nothing to raids on Russia (that of the Kazan Khan, that of the Crimean).
                1. chukapabra
                  chukapabra 1 June 2012 18: 12
                  -3
                  Quote: ESCANDER
                  By the way, those who deserved to live in a peaceful neighborly way could not get what they deserved. There was nothing to raids on Russia (that of the Kazan Khan, that of the Crimean).

                  Yes, I don’t mind, they increased all their territories with wars and conquests, there was such a time. You just don’t have to sing a song, like Russia never grabbed or enslaved anyone.
                  1. ESCANDER
                    ESCANDER 1 June 2012 21: 13
                    +3
                    chukapabra
                    And who is “singing songs”? We are on our land, and defend our interests. We have not been given this land. And to whom it is not in the nose - by that and click. What songs are there? Songs, my friend, the Georgian choir is now singing (after recent events).
      2. Fox 070
        Fox 070 1 June 2012 01: 43
        +3
        Quote: chukapabra
        Live the present,

        Not knowing one's history leads to moral degradation and debilitation of national self-awareness. This is what you and your kind of ghouls are trying to achieve. History is as good as science, that over time everything puts in its place. That is why entire institutions in the United States and Europe are trying to rewrite this history in order to humiliate the peoples inhabiting modern Russia and, first of all, Russians. All the conquerors who visited Russia and received their share of "Kuzka's mother" noted that Russia cannot be conquered by force of arms. Only by killing national self-awareness can you achieve acceptable, from their point of view, results.
        1. chukapabra
          chukapabra 1 June 2012 07: 39
          -3
          Quote: Fox 070
          History is good and, like science, that with time everything puts in its place

          History is the most corrupt science that every little king remakes and rewrites as he pleases. By the way, the history of Russia, and especially the USSR, is generally a complete falsification for the sake of the CPSU.
          1. Fox 070
            Fox 070 1 June 2012 08: 08
            +2
            Quote: chukapabra
            History is the most corrupt science.

            Science cannot be corrupt or not. corrupt are usually people who are engaged in this science. In your case, I consider you the most real corruptive skin, a miserable and worthless little man. trying to smash a whole nation. A sort of mini-hitler. Understand that you and your kind are not people, but real intestinal parasites. I would suggest that you hang yourself and rid the world of your disgusting smell, but this advice, unfortunately, will remain unclaimed, because you value your well-being above all and sell your native mother for him, just like you sell your homeland. Finally, I want to tell you: find a larger stone, climb under it and bend it quietly. If you don’t stink, no one will notice your absence. And good luck in this easy matter.
            1. Docker76
              Docker76 5 June 2012 17: 58
              0
              Quote: Fox 070
              for him you sell your mother, just as you sell your Motherland.

              ......gold words... good
          2. ESCANDER
            ESCANDER 1 June 2012 10: 50
            +4
            chukapabra
            - By the way, the history of Russia, and especially the USSR, is generally a complete falsification for the sake of the CPSU.

            Not only did the CPSU falsify the history of Russia. Dig deeper. Even Lomonosov nemchuru beat for this. And before that, there was Nestor.
            The CPSU is far from counterfeiters from the United States. That's where the truth is, professionals.
  11. Tersky
    Tersky 31 May 2012 08: 36
    +4
    What can I comment on, it is expected from such an office. Another thing is striking, mother’s mother is designed for chicken brains. And actually they will be surprised at the mentality and the CIA story. Volodin +!
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 31 May 2012 10: 04
      +7
      Hello Victor!!
      Bin Laden to Bush: "I have two news for you: one is good, the other is bad." Bush Bin Laden: Start Good. Bin Laden: "I decided to surrender to you." Bush: "Great, then how bad is it?" Bin Laden: "I'm on my way to the White House."
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 31 May 2012 10: 36
        +7
        Quote: Yarbay
        Bin Laden: "I'm on my way to the White House

        Greetings, Alibek!good +!
      2. chukapabra
        chukapabra 31 May 2012 12: 48
        -8
        Quote: Yarbay
        Yarbay (5) Today, 10:04 a new

        just to broaden their horizons, why did the states of Azrbaydjan cross the road so? In Russia, this is hatred practically at the genetic level <this is understandable. And when did they manage to pour salt on the tail of Azerbaijan?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 31 May 2012 13: 25
          +6
          Firstly, they sprinkle salt and pepper under your tail !!
          I have no right to speak about Azerbaijan!
          My opinion is the hypocritical policy of America in relation to my country !!! horizons expanded ??
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 31 May 2012 14: 41
            -3
            Quote: Yarbay
            My opinion is the hypocritical policy of America in relation to my country !!! horizons expanded ??

            No, it’s not expanded, what is hypocritical, I just really want to understand
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 31 May 2012 14: 56
              +4
              how in what ???
              Have you heard of the 907 amendment ??
              Have you heard about the annual assistance to individual Karabakh?
              Little ?? Understood?
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 31 May 2012 16: 12
                +9
                Alibek hello. Finish arguing anyway you can’t convince.
                Let's ride the bears with us.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 31 May 2012 17: 20
                  +6
                  Dear Sparrow!
                  I am not a debater, but I’m ready to defend my position!
                  On bears, even though I'm not a coward, but not Russian))) can you join you on a horse ??)))
                  So it will be more useful from me))
              2. chukapabra
                chukapabra 31 May 2012 21: 42
                -6
                Quote: Yarbay
                Have you heard of the 907 amendment ??
                Have you heard about the annual assistance to individual Karabakh?

                OK. , I just really don’t know if the States are helping Karabakh, I agree you have every right to not love them. Karabakh, the territory occupied by the Armenians, sovereign Azerbaijan. This is in my opinion unequivocal.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 31 May 2012 22: 43
                  0
                  chukapabra!
                  Not only that!
                  You see, the 907th amendment by the US Congress was adopted at the most difficult moment in the history of my country in 1992 and has not been canceled so far! For the last 5 or 6 years, the administration has simply suspended the action annually and we don’t need it now, now it’s more politically necessary!
                  I, too, do not approve of Russian policy as duplicitous !!
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 31 May 2012 10: 05
      +14
      Quote: Tersky
      quite expected from such an office


      The glory of the country of the winner of Napoleon and Hitler, the first to go into space, the homeland of Dostoevsky and Pushkin haunts the founders of the Soros Foundation
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 31 May 2012 10: 35
        +9
        Quote: Vadivak
        The glory of the country of the winner of Napoleon and Hitler, the first to go into space, the homeland of Dostoevsky and Pushkin haunts the founders of the Soros Foundation

        Good day, Vadim! And huge raw materials ....
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 May 2012 11: 05
          +7
          Hello Victor, of course, and resources,
          1. Docker76
            Docker76 5 June 2012 18: 02
            0
            Quote: Vadivak
            of course the resources

            ... without, they are completely scared to imagine what would happen to us ...
  12. Great RUSSIA
    Great RUSSIA 31 May 2012 08: 43
    +3
    To be honest, it’s too anti-American article, you need to give people objective information. Not all Americans think of Russia that way, but only a small part of it, because in the USA they don’t read military-political articles, it’s not interesting to them, like the falsified majority in Russia, now there is the Internet, etc., I think that they see Russia for a long time in a different way they relate to us with great interest and respect, but there’s just the USA elite, frankly speaking, crazy nuts!
  13. Last paladin
    Last paladin 31 May 2012 08: 45
    +3
    In the report there is not Central Asia, but North (a new geographical term))))
  14. vostok
    vostok 31 May 2012 08: 53
    +5
    The Americans were like morons, so they remained! But Russia was, is and will be! Go Russia!
  15. Leisure
    Leisure 31 May 2012 08: 58
    +4
    If the CIA really thinks of us like that, then I’m calm for our country.
    A little, or misguided adversary, is a great gift.
    1. _Igor_
      _Igor_ 31 May 2012 09: 26
      +4
      Here it would still be written in the report that we have tight resources))))))
  16. Odessa
    Odessa 31 May 2012 09: 00
    +3
    The CIA goes to x ... th, for this there is the FSB so that they (the CIA) would know only what they can know. yes
  17. Yoshkin Kot
    Yoshkin Kot 31 May 2012 09: 08
    +9
    and a hundred in this article to comment?
    (pulled on his boots, and went to saddle the bear) laughing
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 31 May 2012 09: 44
      +7
      Quote: Yoshkin Cat
      (pulled on his boots, and went to saddle the bear)

      good ! Wait for me, only for the balalaika and vodka I fly ... without their incomplete set will be lol
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 31 May 2012 09: 47
      +17
      Quote: Yoshkin Cat
      (pulled on his boots, and went to saddle the bear)


      Yoshkin good luck
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 31 May 2012 10: 11
        +9
        Vadim is changing his fighting seven, to the same fighting bear. The rest is, even the beard.
        1. Armata
          Armata 31 May 2012 10: 25
          +11
          I give my Audi and a motorcycle in addition to organizing such a cavalry raid on Washington. good
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 31 May 2012 10: 38
            +10
            Zhenya, Vadim is silent. It is necessary for Indians to apply for a foreign car (Yes, and it’s fashionable now to buy military equipment abroad). Amer in general in the air of a fighting elephant will be.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 31 May 2012 11: 10
              +11
              Quote: vorobey
              Vadim is silent; he is probably filling the price.


              I am not silent, I just find out how much the bears.

              Like that Jewish Santa Claus. Hello kids - buy yourself presents
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 31 May 2012 10: 42
            +6
            Announcement: I will accept a gift, an Audi car can be used and a motorcycle is preferably imported. I'll take it out myself. To write in a personal.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 31 May 2012 10: 47
              +7
              NOT only exchange is possible for the Ussuri tiger. If Vadim does not agree. we will exchange it for two elephants and a bottle of Indian vodka
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 31 May 2012 10: 56
                +4
                Sanya, I won’t take seven. Eugene, is silent to see something is studying my ad.
                1. Armata
                  Armata 31 May 2012 11: 07
                  +3
                  I studied. So I change mine to organize a raid. What do you want with us?
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 31 May 2012 12: 27
                  +3
                  My seven incidentally still survive any gelding. Also, the great-grandchildren of horses will harness her.
              2. Armata
                Armata 31 May 2012 10: 59
                +7
                A pair of elephants with hailstones on their backs, and in front of tigers and bears. In pancake for amers, the shock will be worse than sailors on zebras. But we don’t agree on the plane, the Amers have anti-aircraft defense against it, but they didn’t come up with such military power, so we’ll use panic, and while they’re developing something, we’ll already note the oval cabinet, we’d have to use pterodactyls for air support get somewhere recourse .
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 31 May 2012 11: 25
                  +10
                  Russian and not so betrayed in need. Shaw us that land lease. Only the stew was sensible.

                  Tank NI-1 (NI- for fear)
          3. Фокус
            Фокус 1 June 2012 12: 44
            +1
            I think for such a raid even weapons are not enough - a bear, beards and felt boots laughing
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 May 2012 10: 47
          +11
          ?
          Quote: vorobey
          I'm changing my fighting seven, to the same fighting bear


          And on this?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 31 May 2012 11: 08
            +9
            Vadim, first of all I am afraid of heights.
            secondly, I am a conservative and I like the classics more, so the first option is preferable.
            Thirdly, I don’t get drunk behind the wheel, but I can’t have such a thing in the traffic rules.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 31 May 2012 11: 20
              +11
              Quote: vorobey
              and on a bear it is possible in traffic rules there is no such thing.




              That's for sure, but the main thing is that the bear should be sober.
            2. vorobey
              vorobey 31 May 2012 11: 37
              +9
              Yoshchkin cat, Tersky, Steam engine, well, Romanov all together. and in front of me I’m with a saber on a polar bear, in a hat and a PCA on his chest.
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 31 May 2012 11: 48
                +6
                Quote: vorobey
                Yoshchkin cat, Tersky, Steam engine, well, Romanov all together. and in front of me I’m with a saber on a polar bear,


                Hooray!

                We speak at dawn. Attack the village of Dubki. Decisive assault, do not spare ammunition. The first blow to the tent, the second to the center. Famously! Well done! I'm with you. Gavrila! I give you the left flank. And you, count, I entrust the right. Decisively! Without delay! Lando in the center of the position!

                Bumbarash
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 31 May 2012 12: 09
                  +6
                  I do not understand Vadim, we are here quite seriously, and are you kidding us?

                  Which at dawn. The homeland still did not say the face, and they didn’t seem to receive the lyuli either.
                  1. Фокус
                    Фокус 1 June 2012 12: 52
                    0
                    I’m with you, enough or still wait, I have seven laughing
              2. Odessa
                Odessa 31 May 2012 11: 52
                +8
                This is more in the meaning of the topic. yes
                1. Bear52
                  Bear52 1 June 2012 04: 46
                  0
                  Thanks a lot! I downloaded, I’ll hang somewhere .... or on the desktop drinks
              3. uladzimir.surko
                uladzimir.surko 31 May 2012 19: 58
                +1
                Take me on the tail. I have a bison and a bison! drinks
          2. chukapabra
            chukapabra 31 May 2012 12: 50
            -6
            Quote: Vadivak
            And on this?

            F -15, as I understand it, caught up with him and hit the tail. He has nothing to defend or what?
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 31 May 2012 13: 15
              +7
              Quote: chukapabra
              F -15, as I understand it, they caught up and went in the tail


              So one won off right away. Chinese electronics probably failed or gasoline ran out.
  18. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 31 May 2012 09: 11
    +7
    I really liked the phrase: the Tsar of All Russia could only cross himself and put the one who pronounced this tirade to the count ... Well, perhaps the most it writes for those nonsense.
    And in general: "The dog barks the wind carries", we thank God the opinion of ourselves and our history, for the most part, non-Western publicists know. We have something to be proud of and something to remember.
  19. Ataturk
    Ataturk 31 May 2012 09: 19
    +38
    So, I will tell you what really is. When I was studying abroad, I had many familiar foreigners.

    In short, listen to what they taught at school.

    The Soviet Union is worse than the TALIBAN REGIME for the Afghans.
    The Soviet education system is itself backward and in general people are not allowed to study there, discrimination and most importantly HUNGER.
    The Soviet people are held hostage by the Kremlin.
    The peoples of the Soviet Union, all polls, and the Chukchi and Armenians and the Yakuts and Belarusians and all-this is RUSSIAN.

    In short, I listened to them and began to tell them everything as is.

    I say you have a narrow specialty. If you are a doctor, you don’t learn but your anatomy. And we, if doctors, for example, then we learn foreign languages ​​and computer lessons and history and physical education, and day and night Soviet people can be said to have slept in libraries. They read everywhere and everywhere. Probably the most educated nation it was Soviet citizens.

    Farther. 90% lived on the same level. Everything was under strict control. Finishing institutes did not go for interviews and people worked directly.

    We rested in the Caucasus, Ukraine, Sochi, we do not need Dubai. We have enough of our beaches. Including mountains and forests and fishing and hunting. And you live and live up to us.

    Social conditions were high. Much for free.
    The army was strong. More than 100 nations in one army, can you imagine what it is?

    What you do under the slogan of DEMOCRACY we suppressed. Did you do it right? Correctly! We saw an example of your behavior in Afghanistan, Iraq and so on.

    In short, I told them all, and they rolled their eyes into the balls, as if they had heard a joke.

    They asked what was not allowed in the SOVIET UNION.

    I answered, everything is possible, except that you do not ring out!
    And why not?

    Here is the politics of Europe before our eyes.

    We were saved from you. From your evil, outrage and all the negativity. We did not even know until the 90s that there is a word maniac, murders, mafia, cultivated a CULTURAL society.

    No civil marriages, prohibition, people were healthy. FOOD was limited in full and not just now.

    And much more.

    And if there was somewhere paradise, then it was in the USSR.

    Of course they are ah ... li! I showed them everything on the shelves. And I tell you, they consider the United States a source of evil, just do not talk about it. Head thrown.

    By the way, then I told them, you have the same bullshit, coolie, coolie, say America is bad. And they threw their heads.

    I smiled ... I say to you, and freedom of speech!

    They also spoke about religion, I say have you ever seen Muslims draw a caricature of Jesus over Jesus? No! Do you make coolies?

    Since freedom of the word is necessary to insult the hearts of believers, and then sound to the whole world that there is no freedom of speech? Is that your freedom? To humiliate? Insult? To beat the weak?

    And you have enough ass to attack Russia? The creatures were silent!

    I say to beat the weak, it doesn’t raise prices for you, just like the fact that like dogs all attack one country.
    1. chukapabra
      chukapabra 31 May 2012 13: 35
      -13
      Quote: Ataturk
      In short, listen to what they taught at school.

      The Soviet Union is worse than the TALIBAN REGIME for the Afghans.

      The Taliban came to power in 96, the question is what year did you study abroad and how old are your colleagues, if at least 96 they were still at school (and taking into account the school curriculum, they have introduced at least 1999-2000).
      Quote: Ataturk
      The peoples of the Soviet Union, all polls, and the Chukchi and Armenians and the Yakuts and Belarusians and all-this is RUSSIAN.

      Well, in general, as we all Americans call Americans, do you know how many Russians or Azerbaijanis there are in America, and your friends and neighbors know, without googling?

      Я
      I say you have a narrow specialty. If you are a doctor, you don’t learn but your anatomy. And we, if doctors, for example, then we learn foreign languages ​​and computer lessons and history and physical education, and day and night Soviet people can be said to have slept in libraries. They read everywhere and everywhere. Probably the most educated nation it was Soviet citizens.

      I don’t know where your friends studied, but there are computers and physical education at the medical faculties (if you take it as an object) because to obtain a degree you need to score a certain number of points. My son took swimming as an object (he gives only one point, very little, many just do not want to waste time to the detriment of other objects), although he teaches computer disciplines.
      Quote: Ataturk
      And we, if doctors, for example, then we learn foreign languages

      Haha, I know knowledge of languages, immigrants from the Russian Federation, my son has half of the subjects in English and knowledge of the language at the native level. (In general, 4 - rice, Hebrew, English and Spanish (but he taught it himself))

      We rested in the Caucasus, Ukraine, Sochi, we do not need Dubai. We have enough of our beaches. Including mountains and forests and fishing and hunting. And you live and live up to us.

      why now traded for Egypt and Turkey?
      Quote: Ataturk
      What you do under the slogan of DEMOCRACY we suppressed. Did you do it right? Correctly! We saw an example of your behavior in Afghanistan, Iraq and so on.

      Well, what were we doing in Afghanistan?
      Quote: Ataturk
      They asked what was not allowed in the SOVIET UNION.

      I answered, everything is possible, except that you do not ring out!
      And why not?

      But you don’t need to make it. Even too lazy to list what else was impossible
      Quote: Ataturk
      We were saved from you. From your evil, outrage and all the negativity. We did not even know until the 90s that there is a word maniac, murders, mafia, cultivated a CULTURAL society.

      No civil marriages, prohibition, people were healthy. FOOD was limited in full and not just now.

      That’s a storyteller, we’ve just nothing (they didn’t tell positive news). Prohibition is where? Chernobyl slammed, people were driven to a demonstration under radiation. And what about the man-made disasters, have you heard anything? They were silent about everything. And about ethnic disassembly - or were they not?
      Quote: Ataturk
      And if there was somewhere paradise, then it was in the USSR.

      fool crying wassat
      Quote: Ataturk
      Of course they are ah ... li! I showed them everything on the shelves.

      Probably, who, after your stories, took an interest and studied in depth, they made a great opinion about you.
      Quote: Ataturk
      By the way, then I told them, you have the same bullshit, coolie, coolie, say America is bad. And they threw their heads.

      Probably in the zoo he told monkeys or parrots (they nod all the time)
      Quote: Ataturk
      They also spoke about religion, I say have you ever seen Muslims draw a caricature of Jesus over Jesus? No! Do you make coolies?

      Well, yes, the most tolerant religion, from jihad against the infidels to the bombing of Buddhist statues (in Afghanistan, the Taliban) and the destruction of churches (see what is happening in Egypt, Nigeria, etc.)
      Quote: Ataturk
      I say to beat the weak, it doesn’t raise prices for you, just like the fact that like dogs all attack one country.

      Arab-Israeli war of 1947-1949
      after the termination of the British mandate, on May 15, 1948, Israel declared independence. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Transjordan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Yemen disagreed with the UN decision on the partition. Regular troops entered Palestine and began a series of military operations against the Jewish armed forces and settlements, some of which belonged to Israel proclaimed the day before.
      ,
      A new Middle East crisis arose in May 1967. By the time Egypt, Syria and Jordan created a military-political alliance, and aviation clashes took place on the Israeli-Syrian border. President Nasser secured the withdrawal of UN observers from Sinai, introduced Egyptian troops to the peninsula, and blocked the Tirana Strait on May 22, through which the only route to the Israeli port of Eilat on the Red Sea passed. Israel, fearing an attack by the three Arab countries, decided to launch a preemptive strike.

      October 6, 1973, the first day of the Israeli holiday of Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement), Egyptian aviation dealt a massive blow to Israeli airfields and fortified positions in the Sinai (Bar-Lev line, named after the chief of the Israeli General Staff). Israeli leadership on the eve received information on concentration Egyptian and Syrian troops, but did not dare to take a preemptive strike, limiting itself to putting the troops on alert and declaring partial mobilization. At the same time as the Egyptians, the Syrians launched an attack on the Golan Heights. During the war, 505 Israelis opposed the 310-strong Arab army.
      In the early days of the fighting, Egyptian troops had a 17-fold numerical superiority. The Egyptian army numbered 600 thousand soldiers, 2 thousand tanks, 2300 guns, 160 missile defense batteries and 550 combat aircraft

      Well, just examples of chivalry and gentlemanhood. Learn history without pliz stories
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 31 May 2012 18: 29
        +10
        Chukapabra. Personally for you. Soviet training program. The subject is mathematical analysis. The topic is multiple integrals.
        1. Double integrals.
        2. The calculation of the area.
        3. Calculation of volumes.
        4.Calculation of surface areas.
        5. Application of double integrals to mechanics.
        6. Triple integrals.
        7.Calculation of volumes using triple integrals.
        8. The application of triple integrals to mechanics.
        9. Own double and triple integrals.
        10. Multiple integrals.
        11. Examination.
        12. Parsing or working on bugs.
        Total 12 pairs of 1,5 hours each.
        Western education system (Bologna education system):
        1. Tasks leading to the concept of multiple integrals (the volume of a curved cylinder and the mass of an inhomogeneous body). The concept of a double integral. Darboux sum and their properties. Necessary and sufficient conditions for the integrability of functions of two variables. Classes of integrable functions of two variables. The main properties of double integrals.
        2. Calculation of the double integral for a rectangular region (for an arbitrary region). Curvilinear and polar coordinates. Area in curved coordinates. Replacement of variables in a double integral. Double integral in polar coordinates.
        3. Cylindrical and spherical coordinates in space. Triple integral. Triple integral in cylindrical and spherical coordinates.
        Some geometric and physical applications of double and triple integrals.
        Examination and analysis is carried out for a wider range of tasks.
        Total (even if we carry out the counter. Work and analysis) 5 lessons of 50 minutes.
        I think everything is clear here. And now another example.
        My mother is a teacher of higher mathematics at the Institute of National Economy, Ph.D., she came across students from American universities in the early 90s. There was such a student exchange program. "The horror is complete, they have a maximum level of fifth grade. How to work with them" - her words. "If we knew this, then in America we would be considered child prodigies, and we would study in the most prestigious universities for free" - the words to am. students about our school curriculum (grade 10). I had to introduce additional classes for them in order to somehow tighten them up in 2 years.
        That is the reality.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 31 May 2012 18: 38
          +9
          dear Kasym!
          I confirm the words of your dear mother!
          He studied in England since 95!
          Nightmare!!
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 31 May 2012 19: 25
            +5
            Dear Alibek. Another fact. Under the Soviet system, training at a university lasts 5 years, and in medical, 6 years. With a Western system, a maximum of 4 years. We have 55% of the time spent on specialized subjects, and the rest on general education - physical education, history, foreign. languages, etc. . They have somewhere 80% to 20%. Therefore, our graduates come out with a broader horizons.
            1. chukapabra
              chukapabra 31 May 2012 21: 36
              -6
              Quote: Kasym
              Under the Soviet system, training at a university lasts 5 years, and in medical, 6 years

              Not true . receiving a master’s degree, (2 nd degree) 6 years, in medicine - 7 years. 4 years - this is just a bachelor, not a complete higher education.
              Quote: Kasym
              . They have somewhere 80% to 20%. Therefore, our graduates come out with a broader horizons.

              Precisely, the outlook is wide, as experts - a complete zero. Because the profile is only 55%. Why do they teach you to run 100 meters or be engineers?
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 1 June 2012 01: 31
                +5
                Chukapabra. I write about the minimum training period. 5 vs 4. Further in-depth study. We have graduate school (3 years) with exams for the minimum candidate - graduate student, in the west master's program (2 years) - master's degree. Then comes the defense of a Ph.D. thesis (here the deadlines may increase by a few more years), but after several publications in scientific journals and writing of a scientific work, I know for myself. In the West, after such publications, you are awarded a scientific degree - Doctor of Sciences, the defense is carried out formally. We have only a Ph.D., after examination and the so-called pre-defense. To get a doctor of science, you still need to go through a doctorate, a bunch of publications and then write a doctorate and go through defense.
                In order to come to a common standard in the education system in Western Europe, in the city of Boulogne (France), a general program of study at universities was adopted. I brought you only one topic in one specific area of ​​mathematics. Since I have 17 years of teaching experience and am a candidate of science. I am well acquainted with the Boulogne system and this program is now in front of me. For example, on the topic of curvilinear integrals by app. the education system is given 2 hours. We have 6 hours.
                Regarding any laureates and prizes (including the Nobel Prize). The decision is made by various committees and commissions that protect the interests of their scientists. I will give examples. Popov was the first to invent the telegraph, but an Italian received the Nobel Prize (unfortunately I do not remember his last name). Another example is the "peacemaker" Abama. But seriously, if our scientific works and inventions were of great practical importance, then they were kept secret. Remember the Queen (our leadership claimed that the flight into space was organized by a large group of scientists and the entire Soviet people), but he had a nob. premium. Here is a question for you: "Who made the first personal computer?" I know your answer is "Apple". But in fact, there were 25 processors on the MiG-1975 in 3. When asked who was the first to make a computer. You will answer USA. But without him, Gagarin would not have gone into space, and I will answer that the USSR. You can go on and on.
                1. chukapabra
                  chukapabra 1 June 2012 18: 58
                  -2
                  [quote = Kasym] Chukapabra. I write about the minimum training period. 5 vs 4. Further in-depth study. We have graduate school (3 years) with exams for the minimum candidate - graduate student, in the west master's program (2 years) - master's degree. Then comes the defense of a Ph.D. thesis (here the terms can increase by a few more years), but after several publications in scientific journals and writing of a scientific work, I know for myself [/ quote]
                  The system looks like this
                  1 Bachelor (not complete higher) - 4 years
                  2.Master (2 more years) - higher
                  3. Doctorate - 3 years + dissertation - (candidate in our opinion
                  4. Post-doctorate (dissertation) - our doctor
                  Dial Jaime Weissman, Professor at Columbia University (New York). My uncle's son.
                  I know from here. He studied before my eyes (he is 34 years old). He did the first two degrees in Israel, then in America (Doctorate, post-doctorate)

                  [quote = Kasym]. For example, on the topic of curvilinear integrals by app. the education system is given 2 hours. We have 6 hours. [/ Quote]
                  I really do not like it when they tear something out of context and based on this they make judgments. Once again, I ask you to look at the final result. It's easier. You know how in football, lost - it means worse, the rest is chatter.

                  [quote = Kasym] I am well acquainted with the Boulogne system [/ quote]
                  Which countries are included in this system? I didn’t hear about it from us 9 this does not mean that it does not exist), but it’s somehow more specific, because any heresy usually has beautiful names.

                  [quote = Kasym] Regarding all the laureates and prizes (including the Nobel Prize). The decision is made by various committees and commissions, who defend the interests of their scientists [/ Quote]
                  Somehow among the Nobel laureates, the Swedes in my opinion laughing And the prize is given correctly by the Swedish Academy of Sciences.
                  [quote = Kasym] Popov was the first to invent the telegraph, but the Italian received the Nobel Prize (unfortunately I do not remember the last name) [/ quote]
                  Unfortunately not the first. Look
                  [quote] [quote] The first electromagnetic telegraph was created by the Russian scientist Pavel L. Schilling in 1832. A public demonstration of the apparatus took place at Schilling's apartment on October 21, 1832. Pavel Schilling also developed an original code in which each letter of the alphabet corresponded to a certain combination of characters, which could appear in black and white circles on a telegraph apparatus. Subsequently, the electromagnetic telegraph was built in Germany by Karl Gauss and Wilhelm Weber (1833), in the UK by Cook and Wheatstone (1837), and in the USA the electromagnetic telegraph was patented by S. Morse in 1837. Telegraphs of Schilling, Gauss-Weber, Cook-Wheatstone belong to the electro-magnetic devices of the arrow type, while the Morse apparatus was electro-mechanical. Morse's great merit is the invention of the telegraph code, where the letters of the alphabet were represented by a combination of short and long signals - “dots” and “dashes” (Morse code). The commercial operation of the electric telegraph was first launched in London in 1837. In Russia, the work of P. L. Schilling was continued by B. S. Jacobi, who built a writing telegraph apparatus in 1839, and later, in 1850, a direct-printing telegraph apparatus. [/ Quote] [/ quote]
                  If you are talking about a wireless telegraph, then the primacy of Popov is unequivocal, but he did not develop or patent the idea.
                  And Marconi received the Nobel Prize in Physics, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS, This is somewhat different. Only Marconi transmitter could achieve stable communication.
                  Many physical principles were discovered long before the scientists who studied them, but for research in these areas who received an award
                  [quote = Kasym]. Another example of "peacemaker" Abama [/ quote]
                  The Peace Prize, the creation of art, Nobel bequeathed the establishment of such a prize, and it has practically no connection with the Swedish Academy of Sciences. I’ll also say that the terrorist Arafat received her the same.
                  [quote = Kasym] Remember the Korolev (our leadership claimed that a large group of scientists and all Soviet people organized the flight into space), and after all, the nob shone on him. premium [/ quote]
                  For what? He was a constructor, not a scientist. There is a difference

                  [quote = Kasym]To the question of who first made the computer. You will answer USA. But without him, Gagarin would not have flown into space and I will answer that the USSR. Can go on forever[/ Quote]
                  I will answer me on the drum who made them first, I will answer one whose science is now advanced, that one has better education and scientists. And returning to the one who first invented the stone ax, for example, does not make sense.
                  What are inventions not put into practice? This is how to write on the table. Read how many times reinforced concrete was invented, but only the one who introduced it became famous.
                  1. ESCANDER
                    ESCANDER 1 June 2012 21: 44
                    +2
                    chukapabra
                    - Peace Prize, artificial creation, Nobel bequeathed the establishment of such a prize. I’ll also say that the terrorist Arafat received her the same.

                    And why immediately "terrorist Arafat"?
                    Good-natured man, a trendsetter in the “Arafati”!
                    Understand him too. Who will like the division of their own state, and then also your occupation of part of the territories? They told you clearly - "in accordance with the resolutions of the UN Security Council, these territories are declared occupied." So you about the annexation flooded the world community. And the UN was not recognized either. And Israel "refrains from officially defining its borders." Now Arafat - you have a terrorist. Iron logic! Well done!
                    1. ESCANDER
                      ESCANDER 1 June 2012 22: 30
                      +3
                      In general, you’re entertaining, chupocabra, individual.
                      So many feces, and even with spray in all directions. What you want to prove to someone is incomprehensible.
                      - You let me know about second-rate education in the Russian Federation, but having it and working on its basis, happily earning a living in another country, even won a grand prize with citizenship in the States.
                      - You take off your cap in front of the West, but not assuming that if it were not for the “bad USSR”, then you might not have been listed in the project for the simple reason that your parents could easily have been victims of the Holocaust.
                      For this reason, your state of Israel as a whole, and you Jews of the USSR in particular, must pay tribute to this very USSR as a whole and Russia in particular for its life, upbringing and education. But I see the opposite.
                      How do you explain this?
                      1. Kasym
                        Kasym 2 June 2012 02: 21
                        +4
                        Alexander . Yes, he is a opportunist. "Neither Homeland, nor Flag". Such people have a sense of honor, no debt. They are ready to lick their ass as long as they are not touched. In the army, such chm.ryami were called. Left to the west, now arrogance is rushing.
                      2. chukapabra
                        chukapabra 2 June 2012 09: 02
                        -1
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        So many feces, and even with spray in all directions. What you want to prove to someone is incomprehensible.

                        Nothing of the kind. I know very well for the objectivity and advantages of Soviet education (I knew). I just don’t really like it, when on the one hand (almost everyone scolds the corruption of the Russian school and the low level of education), they somehow shy away to the other extreme - saying that we are the best because the states are worse. I'm interested
                        1. Why attacks go exclusively to the states, forgetting about Europe (which seems to be the same part of the West with an identical American system of education)
                        2. Again, no one gives an example of the state of science in countries today, reveling all the time in past merits, which certainly exist. What is the question today? We are talking about the present tense, about new methods of education and the development of learning

                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        You make it clear about second-rate education in the Russian Federation, but having it yourself and working on its basis, happily earning your bread in another state

                        I was well taught (and you will not find anywhere where I said the opposite). I just say that the level of education at schools and universities is much higher (than we had), the education system is different, much more suitable (in my opinion) and prepares children for future life and career in the 21st century. I am against returning to the school system as in the USSR, because I believe that it will not give the child the level of development that is required in modern life (more precisely, it will not prepare him to be competitive in the labor market or in science)

                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        even the grand with the application of citizenship in the States won.


                        Well, anyone can win it, in any country (this is a stupid lottery), it has nothing to do with Grand (since it gives only the right to official entry to the USA, work permit and social insurance). And get there yourself.
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        You take off your cap in front of the West, but not assuming that if it weren’t for the “bad USSR,” you might not have been in the project for the simple reason that your parents could easily have been victims of the Holocaust.

                        I never doubted the role of the USSR in the victory over Hitler (One grandfather himself died, the second came back seriously wounded). And I am grateful to him (how I raised and educate my children and hope to tell my grandchildren (when I will) that great victory and sacrifice brought by the Soviet people.
                        But this does not mean that I should deny the advantages of the Western system (education) and democracy, which I just like, I am pleased with it. Why should I ignore this, only because the Second World War began 70 years ago?
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        For this reason, your state of Israel as a whole, and you, Jews who came from the USSR in particular, need to pay tribute to this USSR itself for its life, upbringing and education.

                        OK. drove it a long time ago. Judging by current affairs (or we must always thank the USSR), forgetting about the role of the USSR in wars against Israel, the sale of weapons to Arabs who are fighting against my country, etc. ) Maybe an example of the same Georgia, not an example for you? 300 years together, we fought together, Georgian Stalin (and suddenly, after all this, Georgia is an enemy) I am used to living in the present and judging by deeds (without forgetting history).
                        That is a shame, 35% of the Israeli population from the USSR, after the Second World War - even more. The USSR took an enormous part in the formation of the state, but all of a sudden only because Israel did not go on social. development paths, lost interest in him and, as part of the USSR-West confrontation, did a lot to destroy him. Delivering weapons and even fighting on the side of the Arabs, against their own compatriots. You somehow forget that the reason for protecting Abkhazia from Georgia was the presence of 50 thousand in Abkhazia. Russian citizens, and according to GDP, Russia will protect its citizens in any country.
                        During the 2nd Lebanon war (launched by Hezbollah) and shelling Israel (mainly the city) with thousands of rockets, I did not hear a single word of condemnation from Russia and the GDP, and there are more than 300 thousand Russian citizens in Israel. Answer the question.
                        Therefore, I look in complex, so the picture is more objective.
                    2. chukapabra
                      chukapabra 2 June 2012 08: 22
                      -2
                      Quote: ESCANDER
                      Understand him too. Who will like the division of their own state, and then also your occupation of part of the territories? They told you clearly - "in accordance with the resolutions of the UN Security Council, these territories are declared occupied." So you about the annexation flooded the world community.

                      Well, somehow we interestingly jumped from education to politics. I haven’t heard any arguments about higher education.
                      Quote: ESCANDER
                      in accordance with UN Security Council resolutions, these territories are declared occupied ”

                      Leave it alone, in many countries you can find so many absurd resolutions and decrees.

                      Quote: ESCANDER
                      Who will like the division of their own state, and then also your occupation of part of the territories? They told you clearly - “in accordance with Security Council resolutions

                      There has never been a Palestinian state, if you face the truth, this is the occupied territory of Jordan.
                      Quote: ESCANDER
                      So you about the annexation flooded the world community.

                      These territories are not part of Israel (in Israel they are not recognized as the territory of the state), therefore there is a military administration. The territories are held until the emergence of the Palestinian state (only they somehow do not want this, everything is somehow more fighting another (West Bank - Fatah, Gaza - Hamas.)
                      The first who did not agree with the formation of Israel (by decision of the UN) were the Arabs themselves, attacking us the day after the proclamation of the state. They attacked, hit in the face (and so several times) lost territory, what's the problem? Look who started all these wars, you want to give an analogy with Japan and the South Kuril Islands (the same territory of Russia not recognized by anyone)
                      Quote: ESCANDER
                      And Israel "refrains from officially defining its borders"

                      Confirmation of my words, Israel does not recognize these territories as its own. It was Jordan (but since the Palestinians didn’t need any fucking, she simply refused it, just as Egypt did from Gaza (before Gaza belonged to Egypt before the 6-day war) So one of Egypt’s demands for peace with Israel _ Gaza doesn’t return under Egyptian sovereignty, the Arab country does not want the emergence of the Palestinian state (there will be no reason to direct the discontent of local crowds to an external irritant, the Palestinians themselves, well aware that there will be no need for the poorest state in the Middle East ( and now the whole world feeds them), with the exception of the Arabs, they love them so much that for some reason they forget to give money.
                      Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Salam Fayyad said civil servants will receive only half their salary this month because international donors have not fulfilled their obligations.

                      Fayyad said on Sunday that international donors promised to provide the PA with 970 million dollars for budgetary needs, but only a third of the promised amount was paid - about 330 million dollars. According to the Palestinian Prime Minister, most of the missing funds should have come from Arab countries.

                      About a quarter of the Palestinian Authority’s budget this year came from foreign donors. This year’s PA budget totaled $ 3,7 billion.


                      Quote: ESCANDER
                      Now Arafat - you have a terrorist. Iron logic!

                      Of course, how else? Everything in the world is relative in general (but the person who ordered the civilians and children to be blown up is a terrorist) And nothing else, if he fought with the power structures, the army is another matter. And killing civilians is terror.
                      1. ESCANDER
                        ESCANDER 2 June 2012 23: 40
                        +2
                        chukapabra

                        At the expense of the southern Kuril Islands - this is true (I’ll tell you a secret - we are told by the drum that they do not recognize, the main thing that we recognize). In general, most countries have disputed territories. But yours, the "military administration" is not in the disputed territory, which is held for the time being. Did Jordan abandon its territory in your favor?
                        If civilians and children explode, then yes - a terrorist. In general, Einstein is right. It turns out that the terrorist Saakashvili, who bombed Tskhinval in 2008, was helped by the American terrorists who once bombed German civilians in 1942 during the day, along with the British terrorists who bombed at night. You can write everyone into terrorists.
                        And we do not forget history, the fact of the matter is that "within the confrontation between the USSR and the West." I hope there is no need to explain what this confrontation could lead to? Therefore, they proceeded from "the enemy of my enemy is a friend." What other options were there?
                        I’ll answer a question. First, Russia is wary of Israel (like Israel to Russia) and there are reasons (you know what), and secondly, since the Soviet era, everyone is already accustomed to the fact that you are constantly plodding around with anyone and another scuffle no one is surprised anymore.
                        By education, from which I “moved out” - I think that in the USSR it was very good and adequate for its time (and we had the most train trains), but progress does not stand still and we must keep up with the times. What is happening now resembles the search for a black cat in a dark room. However, one can understand, not every day the Empire collapses. As the Chinese say, “I wish the enemy to live in times of change,” so far we live in them.
                      2. chukapabra
                        chukapabra 3 June 2012 17: 41
                        -1
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        But yours, the "military administration" is not in the disputed territory, which is held for the time being

                        it is there that it is located, in the so-called controlled territories (or beyond the green line) and only there. Do you mean that there is a military administration in Israel? fool
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        It turns out that the terrorist Saakashvili, who bombed Tskhinval in 2008, was helped by the American terrorists who once bombed German civilians in 1942 during the day, along with the British terrorists who bombed at night. You can write everyone into terrorists.

                        baby talk. There are international rules of warfare, war is a completely different opera (as you understand by international law, only a state can declare war. By the way, a state under the same international law cannot be terrorist (terrorist) such a definition is invented by journalists


                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        And we do not forget history, the fact of the matter is that "within the confrontation between the USSR and the West." I hope there is no need to explain what this confrontation could lead to? Therefore, they proceeded from "the enemy of my enemy is a friend." What other options were there?

                        None, therefore, we do not forget the story
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        By education, from which they “moved out” - I think that in the USSR it was very good and adequate for its time

                        for his time, 100% agree
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        about progress does not stand still and we must keep up with the times

                        +
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        What is happening now resembles the search for a black cat in a dark room.

                        no need to look, especially if she is not there. It’s just that the Western system does not work well with the corruption component of Russia. Here you need to look for a reason.
                        Quote: ESCANDER
                        Empires collapse. As the Chinese say, “I wish the enemy to live in times of change,” so far we live in them.

                        strange, according to GDP, reborn and rose from its knees
                      3. ESCANDER
                        ESCANDER 3 June 2012 21: 27
                        +1
                        chukapabra

                        I do not have, I'm talking about Israeli-controlled territories.
                        International rules of warfare - check out the Fourth Geneva Convention and the Additional Protocols of 1977, what it says about civilians.
                        There may be inventions of journalists, but from this Somalia has not ceased to be pirate.
                        - It’s just that the Western system does not work well with the corruption component of Russia.
                        The idea is clear, but it needs to be edited: the corruption component of Russia works well with the Western system.
                        - strange, according to the GDP, it revived and rose from its knees.
                        True, I got up from my knees, but I need to stand more confidently.
                  2. Kasym
                    Kasym 2 June 2012 02: 12
                    +5
                    Chukapabra. Well, what did you mean by this (about the system)? I will explain the same to you. I became a candidate 12 years after starting my studies at a university. We become doctors at the age of 45.
                    As for the Boulogne education system. You live there and ask for information from me. Doesn't this seem strange to you? I know about her, because we are trying to introduce her. And since I am a teacher, I have this program, that is, how many hours are devoted to each topic. Do you want me to lay out 25 A4 sheets here? Thomas You are not our believer.
                    Do you seriously think that Popov had to go to Europe to patent his discovery? Europe has always "smacked of snobbery." And about Marconi, a student of Nikola Tesla. In fact, he "stole" this discovery from his teacher. He was more enterprising N. Tesla.
                    After the flight of Gagarin, the Nobile Committee asked to publish the name of the gene. constructor. And about the answer owls. rules. I already wrote. In your commentary, I realized that you do not understand the meaning of the Queen. And they studied in the Union at the Polytechnic.
                    About inventions not implemented in life. There is theory, and there is practice. I agree with you that in the USSR the former was much more developed than the latter. Because there was not enough money for everything. But without the first one, such "wonderful products" as F-117, F-35 are obtained. The entire "civilized west" could not build a space station - the United States threw 12 billion dollars into the wind and could not even make a wooden model. The beauty of the Soviet education system was that it was accessible to everyone; and not like in the west - only for the wealthy.
                    1. chukapabra
                      chukapabra 2 June 2012 09: 45
                      -1
                      Quote: Kasym
                      As for the Boulogne education system. You live there and ask for information from me. Doesn't this seem strange to you?

                      No, it does not seem why I should know what I have not heard about. Explain again what it is (or it’s just a name) Maybe we have it (it’s just called differently). Then I’m only for, because in my mind . wonderful system adapted for each student and giving the right to choose.
                      Therefore, I want to understand, but if we have a different system. then I’ll ask the whole world not to scratch under one comb.
                      Quote: Kasym
                      Thomas You are not our believer.

                      In general, I don’t accept anything on faith, I prefer to sort it out

                      Quote: Kasym
                      Do you seriously think that Popov should have gone to Europe to patent his discovery

                      No, I don’t think so, but global jurisprudence and patent science (as well as copyright) are subject to certain laws (such is life). And there have been times when the difference (in hours) in applying for a patent deprived anyone of a hope of a comfortable existence.
                      Popov first invented - definitely, but the foam (in many respects deservedly, since he developed the idea and the first created a stable connection) was taken off by Marconi.
                      Quote: Kasym
                      And about Marconi, a student of Nikola Tesla. In fact, he "stole" this discovery from his teacher. Was more enterprising N. Tesla.

                      In that system, Tesla could calmly sue Marconi for stealing ideas. Then (appeal to the court) it was very developed, because Tesla lived off patents. If this was not, then it is not all clear (I’m just not completely familiar with the history of this, maybe I’m more familiar with the invention and development of the Tesla system of 3-phase current) Although he didn’t discover the alternating current, he developed streamlined the idea. For the first time creating a complete system of 3-phase alternating current with all its components)
                      Quote: Kasym
                      After the flight of Gagarin, the Nobile Committee asked to publish the name of the gene. constructor. And about the answer owls. rules. I already wrote

                      No, you wrote about the tendentiousness of the Nobel Committee, promoting their scientists and not recognizing scientists from the USSR. Somehow you contradict yourself

                      Quote: Kasym
                      In your comment, I realized that you do not understand the meaning of the Queen

                      [I understand, a wonderful designer, but not a scientist (he did not create his own school in science, neither theory, nor discoveries) this does not belittle his merits. Well, he was not a scientist, he was a constructor, these are two different things.
                      Quote: Kasym
                      As for inventions not implemented. There is a theory, but there is a practice. I agree with you that in the USSR the first was much more developed than the second

                      But I would like the opposite. I would have preferred color TV, a car wash and sausage in the refrigerator than helping all of Africa, half of Asia, Latin America and generally everyone and spending all the money on the military-industrial complex, forgetting their people.
                      Quote: Kasym
                      But without the first one, such "wonderful products" as F-117, F-35 are obtained.

                      I don’t know how much * excellent * but from the experience of military use in Iraq, the F117 wasn’t very sickly bombed (by the way, the Russian Federation can boast something similar, do not forget the F-117 they had a BATTLE aircraft in the early 90's)
                      Quote: Kasym
                      The entire "civilized west" could not build a space station - the United States threw 12 billion dollars into the wind and could not even make a wooden model.

                      Well, wonderful, they couldn’t, they threw away 12 billion, then probably another 30, 40, 50. But what about the result now? Grandmas came, grandmas left these little things. still print. The result is NOW.
                      Quote: Kasym
                      The whole charm of the USSR education system was that it was accessible to all; and not like in the west - only for the wealthy.

                      Well, not all universities in the USSR were for everyone. Please don’t tell me as a Jew and no one has yet canceled the 5% barrier for Jews in the USSR (if you heard what it is)
                      Harvard and others like him, I agree. It’s hard everywhere for the poor, but in the West there is a system of study loans, parents spent money on studying are deducted from taxes (and this is not enough), I’ll say that it’s easier, all my nephews (in the USA) have graduated from universities (their parents are far away not millionaires, because they arrived in the early 90s from the USSR). The uncle’s son (a professor at the Columbia University in the USA already wrote), a doctor, did a postdoctoral student in America for free through a scholarship. Who wants to study and there is no problem with this.
                      Of course, I’m not a poor person, but you must admit, my son is studying at the best technical university in Israel and one of the best in the world
                      Technion is a world leader in its field, both in terms of scientific research and in the quality of training and the number of disciplines studied. Also, the Technion is one of four institutes in the world where there is a medical faculty.
                      Presentation of the Nobel Prizes to the professors of the Technion strengthened its leading position among similar universities. In the prestigious Shanghai ranking, Technion ranked 38th in the world and 3th in Europe, ahead of Cambridge and London College of Engineering.

                      The Technion has 19 faculties, 40 research centers and 11 research institutes. Under the auspices of the Technion, 58 technological greenhouses operate. The permanent faculty totals 700 people, and many famous scientists from around the world are invited to lecture at the institute. 13.000 students are studying at the Technion, 3 of them are in the second degree and more than 000 are in doctoral studies. Technion students include repatriates and many foreign students from more than 600 countries. Thanks to the Technion, Israel is in second place after Silicon Valley in the concentration of start-up high-tech enterprises and is ahead of the United States in the number of scientists and engineers per capita.
                      The fee is. 14000 shekels a year (3500 bucks) per year. This is less than my monthly salary, agree quite reasonable price, lifting even for the not very wealthy segments of the population (the minimum wage in Israel is 1200 bucks)
                      1. ESCANDER
                        ESCANDER 2 June 2012 23: 46
                        +1
                        chukapabra
                        - Well, great, they couldn’t, they threw 12 billion, then probably another 30,40, 50 well, but what about the result now? The result is NOW.

                        The result NOW is to get to the ISS either with us or not at all.
        2. chukapabra
          chukapabra 31 May 2012 21: 29
          -7
          Please do not translate me from English to provincial. And I don’t know where your Bologna program came from. I say that I know, namely, on the example of the school and university programs of my son. I have something to compare, I graduated from the Polytechnic and believe the comparison is not in your favor. I look at the end result, you can write anything in programs, I can’t check you all the same. The end result is smtri. The level of science, the number of scientific publications and patents, the number of Nobel and Fultz Prize winners.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 31 May 2012 22: 49
            +5
            chupacapra!
            I won’t say about the university, I don’t know for sure, but they have 8 of their grades in their college, 9th graders in algebra go through what we passed in the Soviet school in grades 5 and 6 !! I just saw their textbooks and once attended their lesson!
            Our group studied separately - we learned English !!
          2. Kasym
            Kasym 1 June 2012 01: 35
            +4
            And please do not poke me. At least I respect you and appeal to you.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 1 June 2012 02: 12
              +4
              Chupacabra.
      2. RUSSIA75
        RUSSIA75 1 June 2012 01: 26
        +2
        Whenever I remember that the Lord is just, I tremble for my country. Thomas Jefferson.
        PS Thomas Jefferson - born April 13, 1743, Shadwell, Virginia. The author of the Declaration of Independence of the United States, the third president of the United States (3-1801), one of the founding fathers of the United States, diplomat, philosopher.
    2. Pinochet000
      Pinochet000 31 May 2012 15: 21
      +3
      Quote: Ataturk
      The peoples of the Soviet Union, all polls, and the Chukchi and Armenians and the Yakuts and Belarusians and all-this is RUSSIAN.

      I have been thinking for a long time that we need to unite, all the contradictions are imposed on us from the outside ..... but the Russian language unites us, that's why everyone from Russia is called Russian. My opinion.
    3. Nikaviz
      Nikaviz 3 June 2012 12: 40
      0
      OOOooooochen got boooool satisfaction ... I read in one gulp, That's why I always compare M. Zadornov's stories - Everything is in the POINT !!!!!
  20. Borz
    Borz 31 May 2012 09: 21
    +4
    Degradation is evident, because if such nonsense is borne by those who, by definition, should be highly educated and objective (in this case, CIA analysts), then what about the bulk? The country in which comics play the role of an information source is doomed. This is an axiom.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 31 May 2012 09: 52
      +11
      Quote: Borz
      what to say about the bulk


      Mom, can I go, play the balalaika, venerate Lenin and milk the bear? - You can, and do not forget to turn us in to the KGB
    2. darkman70
      darkman70 31 May 2012 09: 53
      +3
      This nonsense for American taxpayers. Given that in the United States about 40 million are illiterate, they will not believe in that. For internal disastrous use, information is probably much closer to reality.
      1. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 31 May 2012 10: 27
        +3
        Quote: darkman70

        This nonsense for American taxpayers

        Today, yes. Another question is that even their elite education is deteriorating at such a rapid pace that their eyes drop out. This is due to the fact that primary and secondary education in Western countries is omitted below the plinth. Elite educational institutions just have to lower the level for students to understand the material. Recently, the curriculum of the 1st year of West Point (before the 4th year of general education, and only then specialization) came to my attention. Most of the things that the future elite of the American army are taught in the 1st year, our children (even after all the education reforms) study in the 6-7th grade of high school.
        In this regard, the question arises - why do they stupid their own people, including even the elite? In general, I would not be surprised if, even after 10 years, even CIA analysts would believe in this scribble.
        1. chukapabra
          chukapabra 31 May 2012 15: 36
          -11
          Quote: DYMITRY
          Elite schools just have to lower the level for students to understand the material.

          I know the program of the school (Israel), the children of relatives came from America, there were no dull and uneducated children. Everything is already either in the initiators or finished. They are not stupid, who want to study - study (as everywhere else). The level of school programs is high enough with an emphasis on self-study.
      2. snek
        snek 31 May 2012 19: 35
        0
        Quote: darkman70
        Given that about 40 million are illiterate in the US

        Where is the droushka?
        1. darkman70
          darkman70 31 May 2012 20: 55
          0
          snek
          At least:
          http://zn.ua/EDUCATION/armiya_negramotnyh_v_ssha_sokrascheniyu_ne_poddaetsya-217
          41.html
          Here is another interesting:
          http://www.nvkz.kuzbass.net/mortal/realusa/index.html
          1. snek
            snek 31 May 2012 21: 01
            0
            The links you cited do not contain information about 40 million illiterate people. In the second there are words about the fact that: "The United States is in the penultimate place in the world in terms of general education and, in particular, in last place in the world in physics", however, in all the ratings I know of the United States is somewhere in the middle (which, of course, lousy for a developed country), but about the last places is an obvious lie
    3. chukapabra
      chukapabra 31 May 2012 13: 50
      -9
      Quote: Borz
      Degradation is evident, because if such nonsense is borne by those who, by definition, should be highly educated and objective (in this case, CIA analysts), then what about the bulk? The country in which comics play the role of an information source is doomed. This is an axiom.

      I like these not knowing (for the most part) English connoisseurs of America. How many has ever been to America? What is the level of knowledge you differ from a provincial American who graduated from 7 classes. Shame, comments on the level of agitation of the 70s. What are the comics, why the main source, what kind of nonsense? Funny to read.
      1. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 31 May 2012 15: 19
        +2
        Quote: chukapabra
        Shame, comments on the level of agitation of the 70s.

        So enlighten us poor! So far, you have heard only agitation of the level of zero, snorting and ernichanie. Does the case have something to say?
        1. snek
          snek 31 May 2012 19: 49
          +1
          Quote: DYMITRY
          So enlighten us poor! So far, you have heard only agitation of the level of zero, snorting and ernichanie. Does the case have something to say?

          comrade Chukapabra, I think, will answer himself if he wants, and I will only give data from Wikipedia, which refers to UN research
          USA by level of education 20th place
          Russia - 20s
          http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Индекс_образования#cite_note-0
          Here is another table:
          the USA - 13th place
          Russia has 71st
          http://gtmarket.ru/ratings/education-index/education-index-info
          What and whom to believe - everyone decides for himself
      2. ESCANDER
        ESCANDER 31 May 2012 20: 45
        +2
        chukapabra
        "What is the difference in your level of knowledge from a provincial American who graduated from grade 7. What comics, why the main source, what nonsense? It's funny to read."

        From the provincial American who graduated from grade 7, we differ very, very much (and to whom, if not you know about it). Namely:
        1. - About comics it is said not in vain, we still haven’t gone down to such a madhouse (despite the “Pepsi generation”).
        2. - Universal (if something breaks down - it will think how to do it, and not which specialist to call).
        3. - They know that in World War II the Russians defeated.
        Then you know yourself, since Peter.
        1. chukapabra
          chukapabra 31 May 2012 21: 24
          -4
          Quote: ESCANDER
          1. - About comics it is said not in vain, we still haven’t gone down to such a madhouse (despite the “Pepsi generation”).
          2. - Universal (if something breaks down - it will think how to do it, and not which specialist to call).
          3. - They know that in World War II the Russians defeated.
          Then you know yourself, since Peter.

          A set of dumb cliches.
          In America, there are enough educated engineers and scientists, skilled workers, etc. All products from automobiles to weapons, including aircraft. space, nuclear submarine, etc. who does it all to them. What nonsense.
          1. ESCANDER
            ESCANDER 1 June 2012 06: 25
            +1
            Who does this to them all? - Well, you, for example. And besides the Russians, there are Chinese, there are also a lot of them, as well as other prepared internationals.
  21. click80
    click80 31 May 2012 09: 35
    +2
    on the CIA website:
    the largest country in the world by area, but unfavorably located in relation to the main sea lanes in the world

    So I see that everyone on the northern Arctic is not following OUR icebreakers.
  22. Karabin
    Karabin 31 May 2012 09: 38
    +9
    Let's consider this topic without hurray-patriotic cries and let's not be naive. The "analytics", "history" and "geography" presented by the CIA are an element of information war, primarily designed for internal Western consumption, creating an image of Russia in the eyes of its own people, as an underdeveloped and wild country. Considering the media capabilities of the states, this image is implanted around the world, including in Russia itself. Naturally, real and objective analysis of Russia is available only to those who really have power in the United States. It is stupid and simply dangerous to underestimate Yusov's analysts, especially since it is much easier for them to receive objective information about all spheres of our life now than during the Soviet Union. Moreover, given the way of life of our high-ranking bureaucrats, we can assume with a high degree of probability that the CIA knows the real state of affairs in our country better than the population of Russia. A striking example of this is the agreement on Russia's accession to the WTO, which has not even been translated into Russian.
    What should be done in response to the spread of such "analytics" and "history"?
    First of all, to block the possibility of its imposition within the country through media resources. Learning to conduct an information war on the enemy field and in the zone of national interests, there are personnel and opportunities for this. Only political will is not observed either in developing a coherent strategy for an information war for national interests, or in responding to the most arrogant information attacks. The availability of articles such as Volodin’s article is very good, but clearly not enough.
    1. ivachum
      ivachum 31 May 2012 09: 51
      +5
      And no one is considering this essay from the CIA, otherwise as an element of an information attack on Russia. We have long been declared war ...

      And in war, as in war ... crying
  23. Alef
    Alef 31 May 2012 09: 53
    +8
    An information war has long been waged against Russia. They already lied about everything they could, even the Great Patriotic War. Fifty years later they will say that we just did not participate in it. The events of 2008 also showed how you can turn the situation upside down by turning black white. We must defend ourselves and respond in the same way, upholding state interests. Otherwise, the Western hypocrites will set the Russian people against each other.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 31 May 2012 10: 08
      +8
      Quote: Alef
      We must defend ourselves


      Until the mid-50s, the Soviet Union was one of the most non-drinking countries on Earth. The annual alcohol consumption per capita began to grow only with the beginning of the perestroika processes in the country.
      1. Sinbad
        Sinbad 31 May 2012 10: 31
        +5
        That's right. Until 1985, they visited with a cake, and after the start of the Gorbachev fight against alcoholism, the main advantage was the ability to get alcohol. People began to drink everything that was necessary.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 May 2012 10: 36
          +5
          Quote: Sinbad
          People began to drink everything they had to


          Worse, from Hunchback and went drug addiction
          1. Inzhengr
            Inzhengr 31 May 2012 15: 29
            +1
            Quote: Vadivak
            Worse, from Hunchback and went drug addiction

            from democracy she went and intoxicating freedom.
  24. танк
    танк 31 May 2012 09: 55
    +4
    It’s not a good thing to engage in chatter, but now it’s time, it’s time for Russia to come up with all kinds of information and bullet to America, there is no geography there at all, you can get a lot of good things out of it !!! annoying ...
    1. Prorox
      Prorox 31 May 2012 11: 03
      +3
      Quote: tank
      it's time for Russia to come up with all kinds of information and bullet to America


      With their literacy and education, a stupid lesson will either not be read or not understood.
  25. Tsim
    Tsim 31 May 2012 10: 03
    +3
    Once again I am convinced that we ourselves need to educate our children with decent and educated people (because we cannot count on Fursenka). We need to protect our children from the "good" crap. They publish such materials for a reason. I believe that their goal is not only to scare their idiots, but also to hammer such an interpretation of history into the heads of our children. Therefore, dear parents, you need an eye and an eye here.

    And then we rejoice only in our education, but it’s kind of quiet about the education of our children. Or I'm wrong?
    1. uladzimir.surko
      uladzimir.surko 31 May 2012 20: 31
      0
      About ten years ago and fifteen years ago I had to prove to the boys seven years younger than me that the territory of Russia beyond the Urals is larger than the United States, until they made a map of the World, they did not believe! Two years ago, her stepdaughter calls with her gentleman a dispute where Vienna is located in Germany or in Venice! I am already forty and I was a three-year-old and she is 21!
      1. Tsim
        Tsim 1 June 2012 05: 26
        +1
        That's exactly what I’m talking about. Sad it all
  26. vorobey
    vorobey 31 May 2012 10: 03
    +16
    Do you know why when installing WIndows 98 the phrase appears on the screen
    "Now you can relax and lean back", and when
    installing Windows 2000 / XP - no? Everything is very simple. Microsoft Corporation
    was forced to remove this line from the installation program after
    of the 23614 Americans installing Windows 98 sitting on
    stools, sued MS for physical damage.


    The only American who has no complaints about Russia is-

    COLORADO BEETLE
    1. Follow us
      Follow us 31 May 2012 10: 43
      +6
      Quote: vorobey

      The only American who has no claim to Russia is-

      COLORADO BEETLE


      And he already got it! laughing
      1. Odessa
        Odessa 31 May 2012 20: 52
        -1
        Siga, as they say in Odessa, what are you ?! Colorado beetles from the state of Colorado arrive! Joke of course laughing
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 31 May 2012 12: 48
      +4
      Quote: vorobey
      23614 Americans

      Sasha, the figure is clearly understated, you flatter them!laughing laughing
    3. snek
      snek 31 May 2012 20: 45
      0
      Quote: vorobey
      Do you know why, when installing WIndows 98, the phrase “now you can relax and lean back” appears on the screen, but not when installing Windows 2000 / XP? Everything is very simple. Microsoft was forced to remove this line from the installation program after 23614 Americans who installed Windows 98 while sitting on stools sued MS for physical damage.

      I wonder how many people here decided that this was true, not a joke ...
  27. rauf
    rauf 31 May 2012 10: 04
    -2
    followed the link and read "Population:

    138 (July 082)
    Country comparison to the world: 9 "
    they see the future
  28. vorobey
    vorobey 31 May 2012 10: 17
    +10
    When the Lord God wants to punish the Americans, he sends them
    hurricanes, earthquakes, floods and fires. And when he wants to punish
    other nations, he sends Americans to them.
  29. scrack
    scrack 31 May 2012 10: 26
    +1
    It's time to remind America that she rented Alaska and not bought
    1. volcano
      volcano 31 May 2012 12: 46
      +3
      scrack Well what are you right word. This has long been a ragged topic. We sold Alaska SOLD, but not leased. I studied this question, but could not find the answer, but who all the same once said that it was rented out. and most importantly why. But why they sold it is understandable.
      I can share it. The United States at the time stated that the borders of the United States would end with the borders of North America. Thus, hinting that they will fight for lands that belong to them, including Russia. And in Russia, in turn, calculated the likelihood of a successful defense of their North American possessions. And unfortunately they came to the disappointing conclusion that we won’t be able to protect them, or we can, but at the cost of such costs, both human and material, that it was decided to sell these lands to the USA. Moreover, in those days we were neither enemies, nor two rivals. By the way, we were not the only ones to do this. If I am not mistaken, the French sold the United States to Virginia. And the price given by the Americans for Our North American lands was quite decent and in the spirit of the times. So there is a well-grounded approach.
      It is clear that in the light of the ensuing aggravation and confrontation with this country, many of us see our bases in Alaska and California with the super duper Muper Nuclear-Bio-hydrogen rockets aimed at the chair of the US President. But sorry. Have to do what is
  30. Sinbad
    Sinbad 31 May 2012 10: 26
    +1
    I feel sorry for them, the poor. Over the past hundred years, their "idea of ​​Russia" has not changed, but a reasonable person will not believe them, and no one is interested in the opinion of a fool. Such "analysts" only discredit their service. You have to work thinner, gentlemen, thinner. Although, this is only the outer side of the issue. At the heart of the process, I think, is an attempt by a group of "masters of the world" to retain power over world processes in their hands, and not understanding, and perhaps denying the restoration of Russia's decisive influence on world politics. In addition, on the face, an attempt to deny that it was Russia that pursued this policy from ancient times.
  31. gans
    gans 31 May 2012 10: 32
    +2
    so you can write only about the country you are going to attack, and supposedly true information as an argument for all our enemies, both internal - chyzykovy fawn pissed, as well as for all psezkogryzryzalezaleznyh zaebalts, so there’s a big debt and there’s nothing to give, only war
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 31 May 2012 10: 57
      +17
      Russian family in the representation of the American:
      - Honey, I'm home!
      - Why so late?
      - On the way the bear sprained his leg - I had to solder vodka.
      - Sit down! Let's drink vodka.
      “Mom, I'll go play with the bear.”
      - Well, just drink vodka first.
      - And where is our grandfather?
      - He has been waiting in line for coupons for coupons for a second week.
      “It's good that he drank vodka before that.” And you don’t sit idle - go
      drink vodka too.
      “Okay, go take a walk, son, and don't forget to write a report to the KGB in the evening!”
      And on the way home do not forget to buy vodka - it ends.
      - Darling, something's hot. Please turn off the nuclear reactor.
      - Now I’ll finish the vodka and turn it off, but for now, play the balalaika.
      1. танк
        танк 31 May 2012 11: 58
        0
        Well, laugh pancakelaughing
  32. late
    late 31 May 2012 11: 07
    +2
    Yes, and laughter and sin over the near Yankees! Matryoshka, balalaika, Russian troika and a big nuclear red button are still leaders in stereotypical Western thinking about Russian people! It is interesting how many people in America read Pushkin, Turgenev, Tolstoy, listened to Tchaikovsky and Glinka and admired the paintings of Aivazovsky and Vereshchagin ...
  33. FIMUK
    FIMUK 31 May 2012 11: 09
    +1
    Everything is clear with the CIA, but what do you (we) know about America?
    it seems to me that many still believe that the south and north fought over blacks *)) and the Pts northerners wanted to abolish slavery and the treacherous southerners were exploiters of the black working class.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 31 May 2012 11: 33
      +3
      Where have you read this nonsense. I’m already like an advanced dad for the second time in a recent history course. The textbook of history for the seventh grade. There everything is painted which American settlers were hardworking and enterprising, even letters from the American farmer and President Franklin are quoted. For black slaves and Indians there is nothing there. SHO there is going on with your education.
      1. Armata
        Armata 31 May 2012 11: 38
        +6
        Yes, there were no Indians and blacks in America. And no one did their slaves; they themselves asked for work and shelter.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 31 May 2012 11: 48
          +3
          Where did slaves come from in the country of democracy? Greeks came up with the word only
          (, it was necessary to patent the word democracy right away. Now we would live on dividends from the states and would not blow money in debt), but the Americans have put it into practice and are now democratizing everyone.
      2. Bunny
        Bunny 31 May 2012 14: 21
        +5
        vorobey,
        But in this textbook is not that the blacks are the descendants of the Russian blackened from drunkenness? .. So it will appear soon! ..
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 31 May 2012 14: 45
          +4
          Quote: Bunny
          that blacks are the descendants of Russian blackened from drunkenness?

          Not all Bunny, only Gone with the Wind.
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 31 May 2012 15: 09
          +4
          Quote: Bunny
          that blacks are the descendants of Russian blackened from drunkenness?

          +laughing laughing laughing good !!
    2. Darn
      Darn 31 May 2012 12: 23
      +1
      No, we’ve already sorted out the war between the South and the North. At least on this site they recommended a book, whoever wanted to read it.
  34. dmb
    dmb 31 May 2012 11: 11
    +1
    Ours are not better, but worse. The other day I managed to watch "Military Secret" on RenTV. Once again, they rinsed Zhukov. At first glance, the group of "historians" got together more than strange. Rezun-Suvorov with a conviction for high treason that has not been canceled to this day. (This is despite the fact that in those years, perhaps only Hitler and his group were not rehabilitated, and even then because the relatives did not ask about it) and the newly minted Minister of Culture. I was surprised, however, not for long. Only very narrow-minded people believe. that Mr. Medinsky, while advocating the removal of Lenin from the Mausoleum, has such a strong personal dislike for him, "that he cannot even eat." (It is unlikely that by proclaiming this very enmity, he could have been a member of the Komsomol committee of MGIMO in particular, and even enter this university in general). Everything is much simpler for the current government, so that it does not broadcast publicly, the Soviet period, which the Mausoleum reminds of, is very unprofitable. I am more than sure that after the elimination of the Mausoleum there will be a turn of graves behind it, then the burials of those in the wall. For it is necessary to erase from memory all that is positive that was created in the country during the Soviet period and leave only the negative. Indeed, against its background, it is easier to hide your own miscalculations and crimes. Medinsky's assessment of Zhukov is from the same "opera" and it is not without reason that it is so similar to that of the traitor Suvorov.
  35. atos_kin
    atos_kin 31 May 2012 11: 14
    +1
    From the morning news: Obama confused the Poles with the Germans, talking about concentration camps. (probably read СRU-story) The Poles are not satisfied with the apology.
  36. darkman70
    darkman70 31 May 2012 11: 19
    +2
    dmb
    Ours are not better, but worse. The other day I managed to watch "Military Secret" on RenTV

    This is actually not ours. This is theirs.
  37. sergo0000
    sergo0000 31 May 2012 11: 33
    0
    There is nothing surprising in their stupidity! THIS IS THE SYSTEM OF AMERIC EDUCATION. The stupider the people, the easier it is to manage !!! And we take an example from them. Go to the lumpenization of the population!
  38. hommer
    hommer 31 May 2012 11: 41
    +1
    If this is really the level of CIA analysts, then this is scary. Based on this information, a real foreign policy is formed.
    But I do not believe that everything is completely clinical, therefore, such opuses are an instrument of fooling one’s own people.
    A small example, a colleague said. At the congress of surgeons, he talks with an American, a top-class plastic surgeon. He says - "I have never been abroad, now I decided to go for the first time." To the question - "Where?" replies - "To California."
    A colleague did not even know how to react.
  39. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss 31 May 2012 11: 46
    +3
    We find it funny, but people believe. We need our 'Katyusha' to sound for all of the irons. Today it is as important as nuclear weapons.
  40. MrBoris555
    MrBoris555 31 May 2012 11: 55
    0
    And what is it? This is after all OFFICIAL information, no one will challenge it in court, it is considered DEFAULT by default, no one will show us secret reports. According to the same CIA, we die out and bend right at 10 million a year)
  41. Drednout
    Drednout 31 May 2012 12: 00
    +4
    The author was pleased, but the comments pleased even more! Thanks guys - cheered up!
  42. Bort radist
    Bort radist 31 May 2012 12: 05
    +2
    The article was written for the American "Zadornov", by mistake it got into the CIA, and since there are very tough men there, and they are now in no mood for jokes, they decided to believe it.
  43. Liberal
    Liberal 31 May 2012 12: 11
    -5
    Tsrushnikov to the answer! The imperialists did not have long to smoke the sky. USA Soon Kayuk - Honest Young Guard! The dollar will collapse and Russia will get back Alaska. Everything will be that way. Glory to Russia!
    1. Armata
      Armata 31 May 2012 12: 22
      +4
      What is all your burping attached to here? Or did the air enter to spoil it?
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 31 May 2012 12: 33
      +5
      The liberal is not a very good example. a little out of words. Where is Steve and where is Bear? Wash Zadornov still walks on stage in his arms, but the computer boys are dying.
      1. snek
        snek 31 May 2012 14: 11
        +3
        Quote: vorobey
        Wash Zadornov still walks on stage in his arms, but the computer boys are dying.

        I somehow put a well-known organ on ideology, but when clever talented people are called "computer boys" - it's somehow not good. He died of pancreatic cancer. He worked hard almost until his death. He built one of the largest corporations in the world with intelligence, talent and hard work.
  44. German
    German 31 May 2012 12: 15
    +4
    For some reason, apart from the mate of other comments about the "experts" from the CIA, I don't find anything .... a difficult case, medicine is powerless here ... the rest is 10 lines of mate .... laughing
  45. AlexeyK
    AlexeyK 31 May 2012 12: 28
    +1
    Thanks for the article, laughed.
    By the way, the general overview of other countries on their website is no less interesting. For example, the USA, it turns out, were the winners in the 1st and 2nd World Wars (literally: "Inspired by the victory in the 1st and 2nd World Wars, USA ..."). Well, after World War II, prosperity came at all: stable economic growth, low inflation and unemployment, rapid development of technologies (well, yes, the crisis of 2 can also be attributed to economic growth, and no one even remembers about a debt of 2008 trillion ).
    And the whole history of Great Britain up to the 19th century is described in one sentence: "Great Britain has historically played a leading role in the development of parliamentary democracy and in the advancement of literature and science."
    It is also interesting with diseases. In contrast to the same USA and England, we have a column "Main infectious diseases" (strange, but they do not have infections?). In addition to avian flu, diseases such as "bacterial diarrhea" and "tick-borne encephalitis" are listed. That's what a CIA agent needs to defend against in the first place! Wash your hands before eating and wear a baseball cap when going to the woods for a barbecue!
  46. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 31 May 2012 12: 44
    +5
    I very much doubt that there are stupid people in the CIA.
    The publication, of course, is designed for a certain group of Americans in order to provoke negative feelings for Russia. This has always been done, and this is no secret.
    By and large, the CIA is quite aware of the past and present
    stages of development of Russia. Otherwise, they would not be the CIA.
    I do not take this article seriously, because I see no reason for this
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 31 May 2012 13: 17
      +6
      Quote: Samsebenum
      I do not take this article seriously, because I see no reason for this


      Then come with us to ride the bears.

      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 31 May 2012 14: 12
        +4
        To begin with, I’ll drink a bottle of vodka, dress up in a quilted jacket and a hat with earflaps, but I'll grab the balalaika.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 31 May 2012 14: 46
          +2
          And a couple of cucumbers, otherwise we already have a shank.
  47. stroibat
    stroibat 31 May 2012 13: 15
    +3
    In 2005, one of the combat rocket launchers was removed from service. She was disarmed, loaded onto a platform, sheathed and, by agreement with the Ministry of Defense, sent to the AvtoVAZ Technical Museum (Togliatti). Due to our carelessness (and VAZ was going through hard times), the platform stood at a dead end at the station for half a year. So the Americans lost her. It is not visible from the satellite and did not come for disposal. Amer send a request -Where is she? Ours -In the Togliatti Museum! ... Amers -She's not there !! .... There was a terrible scandal until they figured it out ..... Including. not everything and not always "they" know about us ...
  48. Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 31 May 2012 13: 52
    +3
    They are about us, we are about them. Hi Ponti do not drive. Smarties b ... q No.
  49. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 31 May 2012 13: 55
    0
    Cool article. Thanks Alexey.
  50. snek
    snek 31 May 2012 14: 15
    0
    This is somehow funny and even a little sad when the most adequate assessment regarding the attitude of the United States towards us lies on the website of the Lourcourse:
    The Americans quite like Putin’s status quo, and their righteous, freedom-loving hearts do not bleed at all when they see throws in the next re-election. He will remain to their liking, as long as stable. No revolution — neither red, nor orange, nor brown — is needed, of course, by anyone in the world. Nor is it necessary to change the predictable Putin to some Navalny, Kvachkov or, God forbid, Yavlinsky. After all, such changes will surely lead to a truly unprecedented oil and gas crisis, and can lead to the fact that there is simply no one to burn this oil. And all sorts of meetings between McFaul and other Biden with representatives of the liberal bohemia are not the fees of the future occupation government of the state of Western Alaska, but the maximum attempt to relieve the pressure in the brains of those especially concerned and assure them that abroad will help them.