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The fate of the 11356 frigates for India: the contract is not signed, but "in the process."

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Russia and India have not yet signed an agreement on the construction of four frigates of the 11356 project in the interests of the Indian Navy, negotiations are continuing, the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC) told reporters on Monday.


The fate of the 11356 frigates for India: the contract is not signed, but "in the process."


On the signed contract for the supply of two frigates of the 11356 project for the total amount of 950 to the Indian Navy, the Indian newspaper The Economic Times reported earlier, but the FSMTC press service denied this information, saying that at present the parties are still leading work on a package of contractual documents. According to previously published information, India intends to purchase from Russia the 4 frigate of the 11356 project, which will be built according to the "2 + 2" scheme, i.e. two frigates will be built by the Russian Yantar SSZ, and two more by the Indian side. It was stated that for the construction of ships on the "Yantar" will be used unfinished corps laid frigates "admiral" series, the construction of which stopped due to the lack of power plants. Two buildings will go to the completion of India, the fate of the third has not yet been determined.

Today, as part of the Russian Navy, three frigates of the 11356 project are in service. The frigate is armed with X-NUMX-mm A-100 artillery, missile and anti-aircraft missile systems, including Caliber and Stiel, and torpedo armament. A Ka-190 type helicopter and its modifications can be based on a ship with a tonnage of 3620 tons and a length of 124,8 meter. The full speed of the frigate - 27 knots, cruising range - 30 miles, autonomy 4850 day.
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 October 2018 11: 20
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    but the FSVTS press service denied this information, saying that at the moment the parties still are working on a package of contract documents.

    ... I selected the keywords ... and along the way they will "work on the package" for a very long time ... bully
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 29 October 2018 12: 33
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      24.10.2018 the governor of the region where the shipyard on which the frigates are built, after a meeting chaired by the prime minister, wrote - Yantar Shipyard received a new export contract with India.

      Corps of unfinished frigates
  2. Machito
    Machito 29 October 2018 11: 23
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    Hindus are good merchants, they will not miss their own. Again they will require discounts, technologies, etc. etc. We will have to sell in order to leave India in the sphere of the Russian arms school to confront the main adversary.
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 29 October 2018 11: 35
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      Which one is it?
    2. BVS
      BVS 29 October 2018 11: 58
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      And who is the main adversary for India - Pakistan, China or the USA?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 29 October 2018 12: 00
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        Packs (they bought 4 new 054A by the way according to the 2 + 2 scheme) and China.
        According to the Pakistan Navy, the 1 of June 2018 of the year in Rawalpindi, the Ministry of Defense of Pakistan signed with China Shipbuilding Trading Company Ltd. (CSTC; part of China State Shipbuilding Corporation - CSSC) a contract to build two more frigates of the Chinese project 054A for the Pakistani fleet. The cost of the contract is not reported. Thus, in total, the Pakistan Navy ordered four frigates of the 054A project to date, which should be put into operation by the end of the 2021 year.
        1. BVS
          BVS 29 October 2018 12: 04
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          That is, against China, India and the United States are natural allies; against Pakistan, a contentious issue. And now the natural question is - is there any country against which India and Russia are natural allies? The answer is no. The grimaces of geography however.
  3. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 29 October 2018 11: 24
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    Engines, engines ... It’s a pity the admiral’s series, maybe they’ll finish the fourth for themselves ... A good ship, although it may not be a super, but a well-developed project. If not for the engines, then riveting and riveting with modernization.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 29 October 2018 11: 58
      +6
      This is still a ship of the far sea zone - in which there is now a special shortage (Varyag / Ustinov + 4 BOD in the 2 fleets + Wise + 3 of the Tsarist Admiral + 1 Soviet = that's all, the rest are sick or already in the hospital / morgue).

      Yes, this is a fairly primitive (normal at the end of 90's beginning of 00's) ship. With old solutions. With a rather controversial air defense (even in terms of capacity for such a ship = only 2x12 - for example, the Chinese have the same complex 4x8 = 32). With normal impact capabilities, but not shine (for example, the new x2 on impact capabilities).

      The gas and gas duct is a fairly expensive circuit to maintain. Yet again. The classic version is now CODAG - and with all kinds of bells and whistles, such as high electrification, the operation of diesel engines is not on the gear and shaft in fact, but on the generation of energy in the most optimal modes, and the driving characteristics are provided by electric motors = for example FREMM = in fact it is already separate energy class CODLAG). But only Europeans, Americans and Chinese go to this hi-tech.

      However, because of the turbines - there is no chance. Well, objectively, there won't be regular turbines, never (well, only the option with tanks in Nikolaev). No one will do a separate project and remodel the project for another energy for the sake of 1-2 buildings.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 29 October 2018 12: 18
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        Quote: donavi49

        This is still a ship of the far sea zone -

        That's why it’s a pity ..
        Quote: donavi49
        Yes it's pretty primitive

        But for that worked
        Quote: donavi49
        However, because of the turbines - there is no chance.

        Yes, that's just it, but maybe the fourth one will decide for themselves to complete a single installation order
        Quote: donavi49
        With old solutions.

        The project is quite modernistically suitable, but a new one would be ...
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 29 October 2018 12: 40
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          Quote: KVU-NSVD
          Yes, that's just it, but maybe the fourth one will decide for themselves to complete a single installation order

          Either the Admiral Kornilov's corps will be taken to India, or it will rot next to the Fog and Novik. There is only one question - the Indians will use our 3rd corps to build one of their frigates, or both of their frigates will build from 0. The buyer inspects the goods:
          1. KVU-NSVD
            KVU-NSVD 29 October 2018 12: 42
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            Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            Quote: KVU-NSVD
            Yes, that's just it, but maybe the fourth one will decide for themselves to complete a single installation order

            Either the Admiral Kornilov's corps will be taken to India, or it will rot next to the Fog and Novik.

            Unfortunately now this option seems the most real, but let's hope ..
    2. Borik
      Borik 29 October 2018 14: 05
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      If the Indians drag on for so long with the signing of the contract, it is possible that our engines will arrive in time and it will not be necessary to transfer the unfinished hulls. And although there was an article on the forum that Indians want ships to be built from scratch.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 29 October 2018 14: 09
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        From scratch, of course, they are more interested, since they may have their own requirements for armaments and equipment other than ours, for which the finished hulls are ground. But on the other hand, ready-made ones are cheaper, even taking into account alterations. So they are being pulled ...
    3. URAL72
      URAL72 29 October 2018 14: 38
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      If we summarize all the information available in the public domain, then the first ship gas-turbine engines will be delivered specifically for these ships. There was information about two, perhaps this is related to the Indian contract, the third can be used to accelerate and reduce the cost of the latter. But this does not say that Istomin will not be reloaded later. So far, the MO has never stuttered about abandoning the series. We are waiting for the engines from Saturn next year. As for efficiency, the ship is capable of fulfilling all the tasks assigned to it, and the war with the NATO fleets is still fantastic. As long as our nuclear potential has the potential to cause unacceptable damage in a retaliatory strike.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 29 October 2018 15: 37
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        The first set goes to Golovko - actually there is already simple (as soon as the units are shoved, they are lowered).
        The second to Isakov - there, too, will be simple.

        At 11356 - you need another set of gas-gas-turbine units, the only manufacturer of Zorya. If the afterburner can still be shoved, redoing the relatively sane% of live. That marching turbine in the required size and power is simply not there. The result or make a gas-gas move from 4 afterburner turbines - which will entail problems with the resource. Or remake all the energy on CODAG with a set identical to 22350. But this is already an insane% alteration of living things, because the power plant architecture itself will change and pull everything along.
  4. Vlad 63
    Vlad 63 29 October 2018 13: 01
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    3 frigates at the Russian Navy. 4 plan to build the Indians. Yeah. Do the Hindus have a fleet that’s more powerful than ours? Who knows?
  5. Larum
    Larum 31 October 2018 08: 55
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    Tpki, by Star, India we give 4 frigates. Hurried to announce?