What did the Americans retouch in the pictures of the Tonopah test site?

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In the microblog @o_gilvi Twitter photos of Google Maps appeared, showing signs of using a graphical editor. The pictures show the airfield of the US Army Tonopan test site. This is part of the secret test site in the state of Nevada.

What did the Americans retouch in the pictures of the Tonopah test site?





There were suggestions that in this way the Pentagon decided to retouch images of stealthdrone RQ-170 Sentinel, made according to the "flying wing" scheme. However, if you are guided by the scale in the photo, then the object that was captured from the satellite is significantly larger. In particular, this object has a larger wingspan. And if we were talking specifically about the RQ-170 Sentinel, then retouching would hardly have been applied in the USA, since this unmanned aerial vehicle has been in operation for more than 10 years. Although this UAV is still positioned as a secret one, there is practically no data on its characteristics in the public domain, except for the dimensions of the "product".

It is worth noting that the very fact of "secrecy" in relation specifically to the RQ-170 Sentinel remains in question, if only for the simple reason that in 2011 the Iranian media published reports (and photos) about the interception of this drone. Then Iran reported that an American drone had a GPS vulnerability - in particular, a vulnerability in determining the flight altitude. The Iranians said that they had replaced the original drone signal, and that (UAV) allegedly "identified" the territory of Iran as the territory of Afghanistan, where it was sent to carry out the mission. The result was a hard landing. The Iranians collected the "gift" and subjected it to scrutiny.



Then it was a complete failure of the American operation, taking into account the fact that Tehran gained access to a whole range of US technologies.

After that, fragmentary information about the beginning of work on a program to improve the on-board systems of this drone began to come from the United States. In addition, data was voiced and some changes in its aerodynamic parameters. Therefore, it can be assumed that at the airfield Tonop are being tested a new generation of these UAVs - taking into account their "bitter" experience associated with the abnormal landing in Iran.
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  1. +14
    29 October 2018 08: 34
    Sly these Persians .. It would not hurt and we would put something like that ..
    1. +15
      29 October 2018 08: 38
      Explanatory nation. Engineers are good, mathematicians.
      1. -2
        29 October 2018 08: 46
        They have gone far, if they monitor American bases of interest to everyone.
        1. +9
          29 October 2018 09: 37
          Quote: bessmertniy
          They have gone far, if they monitor American bases of interest to everyone.

          Who is monitoring Google Maps?
          1. Arh
            0
            29 October 2018 13: 21
            I don’t understand one thing: if this drone saw why it should be washed, or maybe it was something that no one saw !!!
            1. +4
              29 October 2018 17: 32
              Tuff information all so amicably believed in it just takes a laugh. There is no retouching, it's all fake. District in English. Tonopah Nye-Kaunti, Nevada, United States of America. Geographic coordinates 37 ° 47'22.8 "N 116 ° 46'13.3" W. Anyone can find and check.
              1. +2
                29 October 2018 17: 52
                There is only one hangar but it looks like a smoky trail. 37 ° 47'53.9 "N 116 ° 46'29.6" W
                1. +1
                  29 October 2018 20: 18
                  Quote: renics

                  There is only one hangar but it looks like a smoky trail. 37 ° 47'53.9 "N 116 ° 46'29.6" W

                  Photos from your link:
              2. +1
                29 October 2018 19: 23
                Quote: renics
                Tuff information all so amicably believed in it just takes a laugh. There is no retouching, it's all fake. District in English. Tonopah Nye-Kaunti, Nevada, United States of America. Geographic coordinates 37 ° 47'22.8 "N 116 ° 46'13.3" W. Anyone can find and check.

                Nothing that your photo is different from that provided to the material?
                1. 0
                  30 October 2018 02: 58
                  What’s nothing, I gave the coordinates of the hangar where is the smoke, is that also nothing? Yes, and this object looks like an abandoned not a single flight unit, there is no plane or helicopter. Unlike other aerodrome facilities in the Nevada desert, in which there are a lot of flying equipment.
                  1. 0
                    30 October 2018 18: 05
                    Quote: renics

                    What nothing

                    The fact that the object in your photo is very different from the one presented to the material. It cannot be in one place at the same time two objects different in terms of GDP configuration, number of buildings and sizes.
                    Some of you are clearly whistling!
      2. +1
        29 October 2018 12: 42
        Sensible .., but early they opened their cards
      3. +1
        29 October 2018 18: 50
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Explanatory nation. Engineers are good, mathematicians.

        And they also do not hesitate to call things by their proper names - enemies are enemies, for example, and not "partners".
        1. 0
          29 October 2018 19: 06
          Quote: Polymer
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Explanatory nation. Engineers are good, mathematicians.

          And they also do not hesitate to call things by their proper names - enemies are enemies, for example, and not "partners".

          In my opinion, their current power is the trouble of the Persians, not dignity. The Shah was in excellent relations with the USSR, USA, Saudis and Israel. The standard of living was high, the Iranians wore miniskirts, and Saddam Hussein, who attacked them immediately after the overthrow of Pahlavi, was afraid to look askance towards the Persians, because the country's military power was at its peak.
          1. 0
            29 October 2018 19: 11
            Yes, I'm not a fan of the current Iranian government. But directness in relationships impresses me - that is, that is.
    2. -1
      29 October 2018 09: 54
      Tyk Russian-Iranian cooperation still has not been canceled ... feel
    3. -4
      29 October 2018 10: 08
      The Persians are cunning, but we are getting dumber more and more.
      1. +6
        29 October 2018 10: 35
        Quote: NordUral
        The Persians are cunning, but we are getting dumber more and more.

        Speak for yourself, not for everyone.
        1. -1
          29 October 2018 10: 37
          Not! I was stupid at the end of the 80's, but then I recovered. And not about everyone, I said that.
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          2. +1
            29 October 2018 16: 50
            Quote: NordUral
            Yes, and not about everyone, I said it

            Then just write - "I'm getting stupid."
            1. 0
              29 October 2018 22: 00
              I have already answered similar attacks.
      2. -1
        29 October 2018 11: 05
        Quote: NordUral
        The Persians are cunning, but we are getting dumber more and more.

        And what are you talking about yourself? And about yourself to YOU?
        1. -3
          29 October 2018 11: 13
          147! I think that you, nevertheless, will understand where I am sending you.
          1. -1
            29 October 2018 11: 42
            I see that they understood.
          2. +3
            29 October 2018 13: 49
            I also see that here the associates of 147 go through and minus. Put the minuses on health, since you can’t build a phrase from letters.
    4. +2
      29 October 2018 10: 34
      Quote: 210ox
      Sly these Persians .. It would not hurt and we would put something like that ..

      rumor has it that it wasn’t without ours there.
    5. 0
      29 October 2018 10: 40
      Another proof of Google’s espionage activities.
      1. -1
        30 October 2018 13: 18
        Google itself does not photograph the Earth. He purchases pictures from other companies.
    6. 0
      29 October 2018 19: 19
      Quote: 210ox
      Sly these Persians .. It would not hurt and we would put something like that ..

      East is a delicate matter .............. are you sure that our people have already familiarized themselves with this "find"?
  2. +11
    29 October 2018 08: 38
    magicians ... still those! not surprised at all ...
  3. +3
    29 October 2018 08: 57
    I don’t understand the meaning of graphic editing - ours, I think, have photos without shading. Anyway, if you look closely at the shadows - no agreement is obtained - the bottom of the sidewall (left, bottom) of the semicircular structure does not have a shadow. Google Maps did not just expose this picture. This is not a photo.
  4. +2
    29 October 2018 09: 01
    I doubt that Iran has a technology for replacing the GPS signal. I think the failure occurred in the drone system itself, or the operators loused.
    But the fact itself pleases fellow
    1. +4
      29 October 2018 09: 19
      Iran does not, we have.
      1. +4
        29 October 2018 09: 40
        Quote: Oden280
        Iran does not, we have.

        But the Iranians have a captured RQ-170, but we don’t, despite all the electronic warfare equipment we have.
        1. +3
          29 October 2018 10: 03
          And who said that he did not visit us? Or do you think that the funds for electronic warfare for Iran got beautiful eyes.
          1. 0
            29 October 2018 16: 43
            Quote: Oden280
            And who said that he did not visit us?

            I’m not talking about where he went, but about who landed him. Along our borders, these devices constantly fly, near the Crimea and Kaliningrad almost every day, but they have not yet forced us to come to our landing (unlike Iran)
            1. 0
              2 November 2018 17: 09
              He flew there not near the border, but in the airspace of Iran, and if you do not cross the borders, you can fly as much as you like. Everyone is doing this, and ours is the same. And if you force someone else’s vehicle to land on your territory (it doesn’t matter with the crew or the UAV), then it’s simple deep. notes do not get off.
              1. 0
                2 November 2018 21: 30
                Quote: Oden280
                He flew there not near the border, but in the airspace of Iran, and if you do not cross the borders, you can fly as much as you like. Everyone is doing this, and ours is the same. And if you force someone else’s vehicle to land on your territory (it doesn’t matter with the crew or the UAV), then it’s simple deep. notes do not get off.

                There’s a muddy story. Either it was first affected by EW and he fornered the Iranian territory, where he was imprisoned, or vice versa - he first climbed into Iran, and only then they started to put pressure on him. request
  5. +5
    29 October 2018 09: 04
    Whatever the Americans there, in the end it will be used against those who do not want to build on the signal of the American pipe, and especially Russia. Regarding the image - do not retouch, but the satellites fly over the planet from different countries.
  6. +6
    29 October 2018 09: 11
    If my memory serves me right, then the Persians asked Russia to help in catching the UFO that flew over their territory, after which the Persians planted that UFO that turned out to be an American drone.
  7. +1
    29 October 2018 09: 12
    It looks like it's just a shadow from a flat stand at the entrance to the hangar with the words "Don't talk!"
  8. 0
    29 October 2018 09: 13
    Shot a trash can attached to the building. Smeared in Photoshop. They made a sensation out of it. A simple and effective recipe for the yellow press!
    Ah, well, you definitely need more pepper, in the form of the words “super secret”, “51 zone”, etc.
    1. +2
      29 October 2018 09: 24
      Quote: Rokossovsky
      Ah, well, you definitely need more pepper, in the form of the words “super secret”, “51 zone”, etc.

      So this test site is "Thanopa Test Range" and, which is typical, is intended for testing secret equipment samples.
      1. +1
        29 October 2018 10: 18
        Quote: Gray Brother
        So this test site is "Thanopa Test Range" and, which is typical, is intended for testing secret equipment samples.

        Dear Gray Brother! So you see the UAV in the photo? I suppose I don’t see, even if my imagination is very intense! This is the whole point of my previous statement. wink
        1. +3
          29 October 2018 10: 24
          Quote: Rokossovsky
          So you see the UAV in the photo? I suppose I don’t see, even if you really strain your imagination!

          I see the open gates of the hangar clearly. I see that some device is sticking out of it, what kind of machine it is impossible to understand.
          Perhaps this is an airship in the form of a member.
  9. 0
    29 October 2018 09: 17
    Ha. Poorly wiped, but how much noise.
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  11. +1
    29 October 2018 10: 45
    Then it was a complete failure of the American operation, taking into account the fact that Tehran gained access to a whole series of of technologies USA.

    Who is author? I demand the author.
    Did the Persians get technology? How? Was there a process documentation? Description of operating procedures? Tooling drawings and list of required equipment? Of course, none of this happened, and therefore there can be no talk of any technologies. The maximum the Persians could study the design. True, it did not help them much. They could not copy the drone, and they could not "plant" others either. Americans continue to use them en masse.
    1. 0
      29 October 2018 12: 04
      The word "technology" is now more often used by people who are far from technology. But, I assure you, having disassembled and analyzed the device, you can understand the principles of operation of the entire device and its individual parts, as well as the methods of manufacturing and assembly. And this is what is now called technology.
      1. 0
        30 October 2018 13: 19
        Disassemble the microprocessor and reproduce its manufacturing and assembly method. And then in Russia there is still no 20nm technology
  12. 0
    29 October 2018 11: 27
    There is no "drone". a complexes: "Elrus" and "Pantsir-S" .... Yes
    https://warfiles.ru/190535-na-amerikanskoy-baze-razglyadeli-kompleksy-pancir-s.html
  13. 0
    29 October 2018 14: 37
    What did the Americans retouch in the pictures of the Tonopah test site?

    TR-3B Astra
    https://topwar.ru/115585-amerikanskoe-superoruzhie-tr-3b-astra-ne-dlya-slabyh-duhom.html