Military Review

Lukashenko, “zmgars” and the Union State

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Considering the numerous political conflicts between the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, studying the aggressive rhetoric of the Belarusian “ideologues”, sooner or later you have the feeling that in order for the picture to come into focus, you need to twist the knob a little. Just missing something without it. Without this, the picture is completely delusional. An independent state with its own flag, emblem, anthem, president and state. the boundaries of something there requires from Moscow.




In fact, “planning-loss-making” Belarus had to be part of the Russian Federation, but not by regions and districts, but, so to speak, entirely, en masse. While preserving, of course, certain authorities and on very specially prescribed conditions. But enter into the composition. No other way. No illusions: everyone pulls a blanket over himself, and Belarusian elites are no exception. But “to defend the interests of the Belarusian people” was necessary in the image and likeness of the Chechen people, that is, as part of Russia. Could Russia at the beginning of zero refuse it? With all the desire - no.

Well, what's the difference, you ask? And the difference, oddly enough, is fundamental! Imagine all the grievances and all the rhetoric that Belarusian politicians and journalists love so much to show us, but within the framework of Russia. The picture changes, right? Is striking? After all, if Belarus is a part of Russia, then all the political, economic and ideological “claims” acquire a completely different sound?

They, so to speak, acquire a super-power, armor-piercing character, and immediately. If Belarus is part of the Russian Federation, then all those conversations about oligarchs and social justice would have sounded very different. You just need to be able to "figure out" parallel options. And the picture of events looks quite different.

About the former "Kremlin prospects" of the main potato breeder of the planet has been written enough, we will not dwell on this. But I must say that Lukashenko (at least Lukashenko-1994) was not a fool. Far from it. As Lukashenko sample 2000-th year. The obvious goal of rapprochement with Russia and the creation of the Union State is to get the very same subsidies from the Russian budget and access to the Russian market.

And how else could this be done? Without the loss of sovereignty? Tell that! RB model 2018, the planned-unprofitable - this is not propaganda, it is a sad and obvious fact. Exactly the same situation occurred in the 1994 year. That is, this “country of Limonium” was unprofitable at the time Mr. Lukashenko came to power, and so it remained. But an unprofitable Russian region means big subsidies, and an unprofitable small independent country means “Bangladesh” for its citizens.

Mr. Lukashenko signed a document on the creation of a Union State not for some abstract reasons why love for Russia or timid hope for the Kremlin throne, everything is much simpler: he needed money, a lot of money. And to arrange such a transfer outside the framework of a single state was extremely difficult. Hence the "Union State", created mainly under Russian subsidies.

In principle, a reasonable and thoughtful move. Politics, it is this: many strange things make you do voluntarily. Here we must understand one more thing: Belarusian propaganda never does not even speak a piece of truth. Solid virtual reality. All these years, the existence of the Belarusian “state” was very closely tied to Russian resources, but this was most actively ignored, denied, and bogged down. Only problems related to obtaining those resources were voiced. Therefore, a hostile-ironic attitude towards Russia has been largely formed in the mass Belarusian consciousness.

That is, the importance of the Russian market (including the labor market) and the Russian subsidies for the “independent Polesia power” is understandable to most of the Russians, but it is absolutely not clear to the Belarusians. And because they have to talk about it is simply not accepted. As a result, a kind of psychological barrier is formed: people fundamentally do not understand and do not want to understand things that are very important for their existence.

Like it or not Belarusians, but to this day their country is completely economically dependent on Russia. From the economic point of view, this is a very backward and very subsidized Russian region. But in the mass Belarusian consciousness many years of propaganda created a shining image of an independent, "sovereign" power, which is knee-deep in the sea. Belarusians behave so confidently in the political field (and so suicidal!) For this very reason: there’s no real picture of events and correlation of forces in my head, but an enticing propaganda picture. In fact, in our modern day Belarus, we actively compete with propaganda pictures. No more and no less.

You must admit that it is absolutely useless to argue with people actively consuming Russian resources (and whose existence without this consumption is fundamentally impossible) and at the same time living in virtual euro-reality. No, of course, the Belarusians themselves consider this situation temporary and sometime (years through 500) plan to have a modern “independent” from Russia Euro-economy. Someday, tomorrow. Or the day after tomorrow, or for Christmas.

It is clear that the Belarusian leadership owns the situation much better, this explains today the nervous behavior of this very Belarusian leadership. So, once again: in theory, for the creation of the very Union State, Russia would sacrifice resources (necessary for its own citizens!), Belarus would have to sacrifice part of its sovereignty (theoretically!). RB simply had nothing to sacrifice. And the so-called Union State did not take place for one simple reason: Lukashenko did not want to invest anything in it, absolutely nothing.

That is, with the mind, he understood that such magical transfers of billions of dollars just do not happen, but de facto ... did not want to sacrifice even a small part of sovereignty. And that means that Russia had to pay billions in exchange for what? In exchange for a fake in the form of the Union State? Existing solely in the inflamed virtual reality? And the Belarusians are absolutely sure that the Union State is only a form of relations with Russia (kisses in exchange for billions). Belarus itself exists completely from it separately and independently. And this “Union State” doesn’t affect the relations between Belarus and the West in any way.

When you try to open the cards and find out what kind of nonsense this is, a cry immediately sounds that Russia is obliged to pay this money, otherwise Belarusians will immediately go to the West. There is an ambush in what: so someone, and the modern Belarusian "elitist" in the West just do not wait. Well, except in the Hague ... That is, the problem is not just in Lukashenko, the problem in general ... in general. A big problem. This turn to the West is certainly possible, and it is a good one. news... the bad news is that this will occur largely according to the Ukrainian scenario, which includes a massive "fight against corruption", "the revolutionary withdrawal of improperly registered property" and ... the flights of yesterday's managers from the upper floors of high-rise buildings.

What do you want? I understand that the current "elite" of Belarus expects to "agree." Well, the former "regionals" have already "agreed" ... and even the unsinkable Kolomoisky. As practice has shown, in the West, even Abramovich was not expected. And even Berezovsky ... But the guys "with heavy epaulets" from Belarus will be accepted there as relatives. Strictly speaking, who will be the “guarantor” of compliance with the agreements? Russia? And why does she need it? That is, let us imagine that the agreements were “reached”, and the authorities in the Republic of Belarus changed, and the “vector” changed finally ... and then, and then very unpleasant surprises will begin for virtually all the "defendants", about something that "agreed" with shining West.

No, not the CIA, in no way, the radicals who came to power will start pressing them. And for all the accusations and cries for help, their Western "friends" will only smile and shrug. Once upon a time, very long ago, Mr. Gorbachev agreed on the non-expansion of NATO to the east ...

That is, “go under the West” - it is, of course, theoretically possible. At the same time, the leaders of the Republic of Belarus expect to become part of the western elite, while ordinary Belarusians are very much counting on the European standard of living. "Break off" to be the one and the other (Ukrainian example here to help). Someone will go to a happy flight to high stars, and someone will go to draw up a mortgage on the rent ...

Well, then, you ask, why does the negative example of Ukraine not affect them? And everything is very simple: biased consciousness as a result of decades of hysterical Russophobic propaganda. Propaganda is actually a terrible thing, it is capable of distorting consciousness, and splitting it, or even roll it into asphalt. That is, people in Minsk and Kiev, year after year, like a nail in the board, were hammered into the head that Russia was bad.

According to the method of Professor Pavlov grind. As a matter of fact, yes, even among Ukrainians and Belarusians younger than a certain age, this very reflex is completely worked out for itself (well, propaganda has already entered the consciousness of even those who spread it). Moreover, even that factthat Ukrainian / Belarusian enterprises lived at the expense of Russian orders, and Belarusian / Ukrainian apartments were heated with cheap Russian gas, did not affect the situation in any way. Overall история and culture too. Russia is bad, very bad.

Here I’ll say one politically incorrect thing, frankly speaking, anti-people and anti-democratic. In fact, it is always the elites that rule, and this happens for one simple reason: most people do not like and do not know how to think, they only reproduce what they have been thrust into their heads time after time. Therefore, if anti-Russian propaganda has been rampant in the country for decades, do not wait for a special friendship with it, this is normal. And why did you violinist poisoned, fiends?

Therefore, real life and the “right ideological picture” both in Belarus and in Ukraine diverge very seriously. A joke in Russia appeared like this: “Aggressor, give me money”. Or so: “Neighbor, give me some food, otherwise there is nothing for me to spoil under your door.”

That is, with Ukraine it was somewhat simpler: they did not consider the option of a certain common state in principle and stupidly demanded pennies for beautiful, arrogant eyes. But the Belarusians sincerely believe that within the framework of a certain mythical Union State they are obliged to pay all bills and close all problems. That is, the approach is “pragmatic”: yes, we know that Russia is the source of all misfortunes, but let it pay.

Anyway, it could have worked. On one condition: the Republic of Belarus was supposed to actually be part of Russia. Then the gap would be fundamentally impossible, and blackmail is very successful. Even no one would have allowed the GDP to “scatter government lands”. But the Belarusian elites chose the strangest option: having full political sovereignty and pursuing an obviously anti-Russian policy, constantly express discontent and threaten with "withdrawal." It was with such attitudes from Moscow that, sooner or later, should be heard in response: well, leave ... a tailwind. The motor ship "Union State" was painted strictly on one side: Russia financed Minsk and provided the market. As already mentioned, the official Minsk has not invested anything in this project, absolutely nothing.

But no, why: Belarusians are the most active (sometimes even too much) exploiting all the capabilities of the Union State, explaining to themselves and others that it’s “very beneficial” for Russia itself to drag such a group of pro-Western citizens on the hump with a very good appetite ...

Any blackmail on the part of Belarus today completely ineffective just for the simple reason that Russia has practically nothing to lose here - and formally, and in fact we have two independent states. Any threats that “terrible zmagars” come to power instead of “pro-Russian” Lukashenko rest on the simple fact that during the Syrian-Ukrainian conflict the difference between “pro-Russian” Lukashenko and NATO Grybauskaite was not so fundamental. In general, today, according to the degree of political "usefulness" for the Kremlin, Mr. Lukashenko can be compared with Mr. Yushchenko (remember this?).

True, for all his Russophobia, Yushchenko was openly open to Putin and did not insult Russia (unlike Lukashenko). But the non-recognition of South Ossetia / Abkhazia, the open support of the Kiev junta and the supply of weapons to both the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the “Syrian opposition”, the massive Russophobic propaganda inside the country ... the non-recognition of Crimea as part of Russia. And yes, numerous contemptuous and insulting remarks about the Russian Federation. The trial of the "pro-Russian bloggers" and the extradition of a Russian citizen to Azerbaijan ...

And here there is a very inconvenient question: what is principled is the difference between “pro-Russian Lukashenko” and possible “anti-Russian-Zmagarov” rulers of sovereign Belarus? What is the difference for Russia? Lukashenko defiantly was friends with the junta at the time of the active phase of the conflict in the Donbas and immediately ran to hug Erdogan after he had shot down the Russian “drying”.

So what could be the point for Russia to spend billions on maintaining its regime and on the warm apartments of Minsk dwellers in winter? Zmagars would be friends with the junta in the same way ... although they could have digged! Before 2008, and even before 2014, the illusion was preserved that, at least, Lukashenka was "better than this pro-Western opposition." Today it is by no means obvious. Of principle there is no difference. "Pink snot" under the order about the "trenches and twinning" in the billions of dollars is clearly not pulled.

Gentlemen of Belarusians, we were so frightened by Smagars for so long that we have already ceased to fear them. In the end, the devil is not so terrible as he is painted: such a choice (for example, Mr. Drakakhrust at the head of Belarus) will certainly be accepted both in the West and in a significant part of the population of the Republic of Belarus, and Russia will finally be able to go into great pragmatism in relations with Minsk. That is to relieve yourself of these very billions of expenses. In the end, Mr. Drakokhrust (what a surname!), Like the overwhelming number of "oppov", a person is much more cultural and intelligent than the former. chairman of the state farm from Shklovsky district. That is, he will not become a “friend of Russia”, but even so frankly he will not be able to be rude (by nature, a gentle person).

And for the money he will go ... to the city, famous for its cabbages. Which is certainly not bad. Here, wondering when RB during the conflict 2011-2018. it’s not the man with the surname Lukashenko who heads, but the man with the surname Drakokhrust, I think that we wouldn’t have seen such blatant turns on bends (he is a gentle and cautious man, like most Belarusian "oppov").

Why do we need in a neighboring country support one russophobe in the fight against others? Meaning? The trouble with Lukashenka’s regime is that for Russia there isn’t much difference today about how exactly the name of the head of Belarus will sound. No longer. And Mr. Drakokhrust is interesting to the author because he was going to buy oil in Lithuania, and to replace the ruble by ... thaler. I would very much like to see all this (how a man by the name of Drakokhrust buys oil on the Lithuanian border in exchange for the newly printed Belarusian thalers).

And the problem with Lukashenka is that, over the course of a quarter of a century, our Belarusians began to perceive his presidencies as scandalous, quarrelsome and aggressive. So the trouble is that Mr. Lukashenko does not have a Belarusian national character. Because no aggression / scandal in this character is not present initially. Belarusians are peaceful people. In other words, Lukashenka got Belarusians most of all with his endless political circus.

In general, the aforesaid politician of the rules is so “great” that today even the option of a complete and final “divorce” and the coming to power in Minsk of a pro-Western oppositionist begins to seem quite a good way out. After Lukashenko any The scenario is starting to seem interesting.
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 29 October 2018 06: 17
    +11
    In principle, everything is written in the case .. As you do not feed the wolf, he all looks to the West alone ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 29 October 2018 06: 54
      +13
      Like a wolf, do not feed him, he all looks one at the West ...


      Yes, not to the West, but to the pocket of Russia and the EU ... what he chooses who will give more ... recently the old man kissed Peter with an alcoholic ... expressed himself in the eternal friendship of three fraternal peoples ... in general, you look at his suit and think of a circus and nothing more.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 29 October 2018 07: 42
        +6
        Thank you for the amendment, then like this: Like a wolf, do not feed him anyway, he goes into his pocket for money ...
    2. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 29 October 2018 21: 56
      -1
      Sorry, I’ll correct: how many wolves do not feed, but the elephant still has more.
      And this one, who scribbled an article well, completely unexplored, and what is characteristic, how does the full moon sprinkle something?
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 29 October 2018 06: 51
    +8
    Oleg, nothing new, everything is the same as some time ago wink yes
    So there’s nothing special to comment on, because after three weeks (you can’t cope with one) the exact same article will be again fellow Absolutely the same ....
    In the past, even a cracked bridge was attributed as evidence of the inferiority of Belarus smile
    By the way, Oleg, they are opening it this Friday. Let's go against Lukashenka - they managed not by November 7, but a week earlier wink
    So the dog barks - the caravan goes hi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7jxEEvOsQ4
    Ps. But still a plus for the effort in writing smile
    1. Vittt
      Vittt 2 November 2018 13: 01
      -1
      Somewhere to this Egorov in Belarus I was attacked ... (in the sense of personal ego) laughing
      But in fact, in fact - one and the same, one and the same. I would change the disc, at least diversify it, otherwise, as the work of the ancient Roman orator - "Carthage must be destroyed." I'm tired.
  3. Conductor
    Conductor 29 October 2018 07: 00
    +5
    And there’s nothing to comment on! On business.
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 29 October 2018 07: 21
    +8
    In Belarus, an immediate referendum should be held on two points - Lukashenka's resignation and joining Russia. Only the `` polite green people '' from Russia should watch the referendum.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 October 2018 11: 01
      +1
      Quote: ANCIENT
      in Belarus, a referendum should immediately be held on two points: Lukashenko’s resignation and joining Russia.

      result:
      1. leave the bow
      2. be sovereign
      here is the result now ....
      1. Victor N
        Victor N 29 October 2018 14: 57
        +1
        Oh, you do not like ordinary Belarusians! I hope most sanity is enough. But is there enough courage .....
        1. meGrail
          meGrail 3 November 2018 17: 56
          0
          Enough to leave the mind as it is, believe me!
    2. Vittt
      Vittt 2 November 2018 13: 08
      -2
      Listen, ANCIENT (probably together with the "Sumerians" dug the Black Sea), you'd better hold a referendum on your pensions. Is it weak to annex Alaska (so to speak, return to its native harbor)? Referendum there too!
  5. Retired lieutenant colonel
    Retired lieutenant colonel 29 October 2018 07: 59
    0
    As I understand it, this fundamental opus is from those who care for Raseya, denounces enemies and backbites, cuts the truth-womb ... And it is repeated regularly, once every 3-4 weeks. And the garbage, that "iksperd" doesn’t sleep in the subject, the bad thing is that partly because of such broadcasters, almost all the post-Soviet republics in the queue of all sorts of people have firmly stood ...
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 29 October 2018 08: 26
      +11
      Yes, yes, if Moscow no longer wants to feed, then you have to run to NATO, they will feed you there. I hope they all will run away to this nature of yours, in which case we will slam everyone, and so the Germans had a characteristic for such: "an ally of the ballast type."
    2. populist
      populist 29 October 2018 09: 07
      +4
      Retired lieutenant colonel
      And the garbage that "iksperd" is not a dream, nor a snout in the subject,

      Oleg Egorov's articles always contain enough "arguments and facts" good
      If someone does not bother with the topic, it is you. hi
    3. Alexey Novikov
      Alexey Novikov 29 October 2018 14: 24
      0
      > because of such broadcasters, almost all post-Soviet republics in the queue of all sorts of people have firmly stood

      I would never have thought that articles by publicists exerted such an influence on the elites of post-Soviet states. I always thought that they just wanted to crank up the trick with feeding like in the USSR, and here it’s that, Mikhalych.
    4. Victor N
      Victor N 29 October 2018 14: 59
      0
      It is repeated because it comes tight. Obviously not for everyone. It’s free to fool yourself.
    5. Student in retirement
      Student in retirement 18 August 2020 11: 06
      0
      So the situation does not change over time, and unfortunately for a long time, and today it is still the same. And how relevant in our revolutionary days!
  6. EvilLion
    EvilLion 29 October 2018 08: 24
    +2
    Oh, Egorov with utrechka. Love. And then read the comments, as defenders of socialist feudalism, led by Rygorych, rage.
  7. prior
    prior 29 October 2018 09: 43
    -8
    While the Belarusians are working, "Russian Yegorovs" in the morning scribble provocative articles and sing glory to Vladimir Vladimirovich Bender.
    The successful collective farm chairman did much more for his people and his country than hundreds of useless Duma dePutans along with the government.
    In fact, the article is nothing more than inciting ethnic hatred.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 29 October 2018 11: 05
      0
      Quote: prior
      Essentially, the article is nothing else.

      fend off !!!
      For each item, give the facts!
      1. naidas
        naidas 29 October 2018 11: 53
        +2
        -Because of the fact that “unprofitable” Belarus had to be part of the Russian Federation, but not by regions and districts, but, so to speak, as a whole, en masse.
        -I suppose until 2014 it was delusional for Belarus to enter the Russian Federation, which was still creeping and puffing up friends with the West. Belarus is closer to the West and could be friends with the West no worse.
    2. Walking
      Walking 29 October 2018 11: 10
      +6
      Quote: prior

      The successful collective farm chairman did much more for his people and his country than hundreds of useless Duma dePutans along with the government.
      .

      I did a lot, yes, but for some reason for Russian money.
      1. Alexey Novikov
        Alexey Novikov 29 October 2018 14: 30
        +6
        In figures: Belarus is annually subsidized for 300-600 billion rubles. For comparison, transfers to all 85 Russian regions from the federal budget amount to about 600 billion rubles a year. Therefore, when the Lukashists start pushing the carts for what "Rygorych did!" I find it funny.
        1. Olezhek
          29 October 2018 16: 04
          0
          In figures: Belarus annually subsidizes 300-600 billion rubles. For comparison


          Why not redirect this money to Crimea / LDNR?
      2. Vittt
        Vittt 1 February 2019 16: 17
        0
        Who cares? This is called effective management.
    3. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 29 October 2018 11: 39
      +6
      And what has he done for all the years of Bask’s rule? The standard of living of Bedarus citizens has risen sharply? Hundreds of new industries? Explosive development of agriculture? Are you open and you can ask a lot of questions, but essentially?
      1. Vittt
        Vittt 1 February 2019 16: 21
        0
        I would like you to redirect this question, but 76% of your questions are answered "yes".
        PS With agriculture here, on the contrary, is too good.
    4. Vittt
      Vittt 2 November 2018 13: 51
      0
      He constantly scribbles this blizzard. That’s his task.
      Regarding the "collective farm chairman" from EvilLion (so to speak, "evil lion", oh, what a terrible one):
      1) since I live in the country of the "collective farm chairman", I get a 3-room apartment in a new house in a good area and pay only 5% of its cost (95% is subsidized by the state), having stood in line for 3 years (I have three minor children).
      2) since I live in the country of the "collective farm chairman", I am happy to see white faces on the streets of my city, and not monkey faces like yours. I am not a racist, I just want THESE to live in their homeland.
      3) since I live in the country of the "collective farm chairman", the police try to behave according to the law, and not according to the concepts of yours (there are shoals, including in relation to me, but there were cases of fair treatment of me without drawing up a protocol) ... It is very difficult to imagine the Baghdasarian here - a flogging would be indicative.
      4) since I live in the country of the "collective farm chairman", it's hard for me to imagine some kind of AUE, they would be immediately seized and brutally otkh (you know further). The gathering of "thieves in law" in Belarus is like a gathering on Mars.
      5) since I live in the country of a "collective farm chairman" I can let my children go out into the street calmly, I have never heard any wars in schools and outside their walls. Any teenage conflicts are resolved by parents, school, psychologists. Everyone knows perfectly well that bullishness is inevitably punishable.
      6) since I live in the country of the "collective farm chairman", then I want to say that my opinion about him has undergone a transformation - initially absolutely indifferent for quite a long time (youth), then rejection (unfree elections, removal of competitive candidates, lack of freedom for entrepreneurship), and then a lot what.BUT, there are nuances. Previously, I saw in Russia some kind of native guiding star, but now I watch with fear what your rulers are doing to you.
      7) better "collective farmer" than chaos and total injustice. And yes, oil and gas, of course, yours. After all, you raised the deposits from scratch, and only the Russians did it (sarcasm - for those "who are in the house").
      Live as you want, but you are already fed up with your whining about the fact that everyone is stealing and slurping in big spoons. Understand yourself first, set an example, and people will reach for you! In fact, stop these attacks, even Pamyarkounny Belarusians you will be able to get.
      1. Olezhek
        2 November 2018 17: 32
        0
        Understand yourself first, be an example, and people will reach out to you


        About the support of the Nazis in Ukraine and the terrorists in Syria, sho say?
        Which chesnyy and pryntsypialny?
        So short on the merits ...
        1. meGrail
          meGrail 3 November 2018 18: 00
          0
          What is the support of the Nazis? You yourself DNR and LC recognized? Has your relationship with Ukraine been broken or are you still trading? So why do you think that others should do what they themselves have not done?
  8. nikvic46
    nikvic46 29 October 2018 09: 54
    +1
    Solving such issues is necessary not for the expert, but for the Belarusian people.
    1. Olezhek
      29 October 2018 10: 20
      +9
      Solving such issues is necessary not for the expert, but for the Belarusian people.


      In the sense of? The question of Russian-Belarusian relations?
      why only Belarusian? belay
      1. Alexey Novikov
        Alexey Novikov 29 October 2018 14: 33
        0
        Belarusian chauvinism - he is like that. They also push such carts inside the country, they say, Belarusians should decide the fate of Belarus. Not citizens of Belarus, namely Belarusians.
        1. meGrail
          meGrail 3 November 2018 18: 02
          +1
          Don't talk nonsense, we have no divisions into "Russians" and "Russians". And the citizens of Belarus have nothing to do with it, the citizens of the Republic of Belarus should decide, since this is so
        2. Mentor
          Mentor 3 November 2018 19: 32
          0
          Read less Zmagarovsky sites. For thirty-odd years no one reproached me with non-Belarusian origin.
  9. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 29 October 2018 09: 55
    +5
    How tired of all this! Whoever zaritsya on Russian capital and Russian natural wealthfool Do we have national heritage around? Does a person pass like a master? "Don't tell my horseshoes ..."

    Mr. Lukashenko did not sign the document on the creation of the Union State for some abstract reasons of love for Russia or timid hope for the Kremlin throne, everything is much simpler: he needed money, a lot of money.


    Mr. Yeltsin did not sign the document on the collapse of the Union State (CIS) for some abstract reasons of love for Russia or the timid hope of a lifelong Kremlin throne, everything is much simpler: he and those who put him on the post needed money, a lot of money ... yes

    So it happened in Russia. Some were left with money, while others with promises and bare ass ...
    1. Olezhek
      29 October 2018 12: 14
      +1
      Mr Yeltsin signed a document on the collapse of the Union State (CIS)


      What are you talking about?
  10. lot
    lot 29 October 2018 10: 24
    +2
    Quote: nikvic46
    Solving such issues is necessary not for the expert, but for the Belarusian people.

    how do you imagine that? even in Belarus or the United States or elsewhere. that’s how in Switzerland I can imagine SMS voting and so on. but in the rest of the world everything is fake (farce). Ukraine itself is an example of merrymaking for anyone, but not of the people. The people - in the truck and on the loopholes :-(. Alas.
  11. Gardamir
    Gardamir 29 October 2018 11: 10
    +2
    I read about the grievances and then "niasilil". I don't understand everything patriotism is a good thing. Especially if you are an oligarch and tell the slaves how in an independent country they do not allow to rob for free. Now, if Belarus were to join, then yes. You can row into your pocket and report to anyone. And there But Father sometimes gives such heat.
  12. Vitaxl
    Vitaxl 29 October 2018 11: 22
    +2
    A referendum must be held in Russia and annexed to Belarus. Maybe it will bring a little order and put your oligarchs and other evil spirits. It will teach you how to sow and harvest fields, how to keep your streets and forests clean, how to work and not sit at the computer and whine what the fucking Belarus is and how much it will bankrupt Russia. The problem of Russia is not Belarus, but the general sloppiness and nonsense of Russians. However, the author does not show what is behind his window; it is easier to write dregs after reading the yellow press.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 29 October 2018 11: 41
      +4
      Regarding the fields and cleanliness, you’ve bent my friend ... yes, it’s not always licked like in Minsk, but as for the fields .. then this year many many thousands of tons of grain were bought in Russia already ... so .. better silently
      1. Vitaxl
        Vitaxl 29 October 2018 12: 01
        +3
        I know that in Russia there is an agrarian upsurge and I am sincerely glad of this. Latvians almost bought all the rye, cool. Besides, I wrote that there is no mass character in the desire to work for the country, for a long time everyone would be put in the belt.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 29 October 2018 11: 57
      +4
      It's fun to listen to those who have no economy, no army, no pants. Just like the local Tatars, who sincerely believe that they "put on pants" on the Russians, although in fact, if they do something better than the Russians, they steal and make money. Like any small people with a clan mentality.
      1. Vitaxl
        Vitaxl 29 October 2018 12: 09
        0
        You monitor your trousers and mentality, and we will cope with yours. Not friends to you Belarus and well, survive. About nepotism and theft is a point, not only in Belarus, but in Russia.
        1. EvilLion
          EvilLion 29 October 2018 12: 18
          +4
          You do not even understand the essence of this phenomenon, although you are almost a serf in Lukashenka. If we have oligarchs, then you just have a landowner.
          And yes, as there about the army, rich countries always have a good army, while you have neither space, nor the Caucasus with the Chechens, nor Siberia, on which to build roads, so it’s cheaper to develop teleportation, you have a compact homogeneous state without waste . Have something to brag about, or only Russia can beg for a dozen planes?
        2. Olezhek
          29 October 2018 12: 36
          +3
          Belarus is not friends. Well, okay, let's survive.


          Yes, how to say ...


          "Vedomosti": the Russian Ministry of Defense will place the latest complexes "Samarkand", including in Belarus
          790 comments

          Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/613394.html


          Russia that the territories are not enough that she climbs to us? Belarus will only become independent when it becomes a member of NATO and the EU ....


          Means of EW, one of the first will be targets for strikes. Sasha substitutes our territory. For what? For restrictions on the supply of goods in the Russian Federation? Where is free trade? Where is the money from this? Many questions


          We need to join economic alliances, preferably the EU, not the military.


          but they say that the meetings passed without result, but "I think this is just the beginning" Putin will not throw money down the drain "there is always some move"


          According to part 2, Art. 18 of the Constitution, the Republic of Belarus aims to make its territory a nuclear-free zone, and the state neutral.
          I understand that we will take charge soon?


          And why should we? Does the Kremlin want to make us targets?


          First you need to get rid of the Russian patronage / occupation. And it is not easy. Recall the experience of Ukraine.



          Is the deployment of missiles of another state on our territory a violation of the principle of neutrality enshrined in the Constitution of Belarus ???
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 29 October 2018 12: 42
            +3
            Yes, Belarus EEC is unnecessary in any form, the last production is grunting, the agricultural industry will finally bend and that’s all .. nothing valuable, in Ukraine, among other things, chernozem at least, but there ... all the same, brainwashing is going on and it affects very much
        3. JD1979
          JD1979 29 October 2018 14: 55
          +6
          About nepotism and theft is a point, not only in Belarus, but in Russia.


          Come on! Living in Minsk and working in the state office, I observe how each new director, who is replaced every year by the fact of disastrous activity, recruits his friends to leading posts, and they pull their relatives to smaller posts. Tell tales. My mother has a similar situation at the institute. RB Small and density relatives in square. Km There is much higher.
  13. Radikal
    Radikal 29 October 2018 12: 28
    +1
    Quote: Retired Colonel
    As I understand it, this fundamental opus is from those who care for Raseya, denounces enemies and backbites, cuts the truth-womb ... And it is repeated regularly, once every 3-4 weeks. And the garbage, that "iksperd" doesn’t sleep in the subject, the bad thing is that partly because of such broadcasters, almost all the post-Soviet republics in the queue of all sorts of people have firmly stood ...

    yes good hi
  14. Radikal
    Radikal 29 October 2018 12: 30
    -1
    good
    Quote: Vitaxxl
    A referendum must be held in Russia and annexed to Belarus. Maybe it will bring a little order and put your oligarchs and other evil spirits. It will teach you how to sow and harvest fields, how to keep your streets and forests clean, how to work and not sit at the computer and whine what the fucking Belarus is and how much it will bankrupt Russia. The problem of Russia is not Belarus, but the general sloppiness and nonsense of Russians. However, the author does not show what is behind his window; it is easier to write dregs after reading the yellow press.

    Respect, straight from the "language" was removed, I join! hi
    1. EvilLion
      EvilLion 29 October 2018 14: 38
      -1
      Do not disgrace Vissarionich, you are not worthy avatars with him.
  15. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 29 October 2018 12: 39
    +1
    By and large, do we need Belarus to become part of the Russian Federation? Well, we won’t pull at least you kill ... here we just need to build relations that benefit both Belarus and us. But with whom to talk about this? In my opinion, the ruling mentality the class of Belarus has remained at that level of the specific princes and secretaries of the Republics and regional committees ... even if you clearly place the points that no one will encroach on your sovereignty, we work openly and honestly, we guarantee protection against hostile actions, but you too with us, we take into account your interests, and you ours, perhaps naively, but ... you can’t sit on two chairs for a long time, Ukraine is an example ... but they’ll eat and don’t choke on their own
  16. Alex66
    Alex66 29 October 2018 12: 47
    +7
    Recall Ukraine: Russia invested 200 billion in its economy, the United States 5 billion to specific individuals, it may be time to understand the futility of investing in the economy of Belarus, it is necessary to pay specific people for specific contracts, decisions are cheaper. Or someone thinks that Ukrainians will change their minds about remembering our generosity and overthrowing American lackeys. Distributing aid in the form of oil and gas, debt forgiveness is a dead end.
    1. Vittt
      Vittt 1 February 2019 16: 30
      0
      Perhaps you are right, but as always with you, this is a question after a fight
  17. MoJloT
    MoJloT 29 October 2018 12: 52
    +1
    It turns out that Belarus has two options, and both bad to say the least.
    1. Follow in the footsteps of a ruin
    2. To be torn and robbed by the Russian oligarchy
  18. Old Boy
    Old Boy 29 October 2018 13: 40
    +5
    Here's what I can't understand: articles like this and similar in rhetoric have been published for twenty years. Listen, Lukashenka has been in power for 25 years, but Putin is 18. And all this time, one sells "kisses for billions", and the other buys them. Why are “kisses” of Belarus so special that they cost so much money? laughing
    Maybe it's not as straightforward as the "experts" think?
    1. Olezhek
      30 October 2018 07: 38
      +1
      And all this time one sells "kisses for billions", and the second buys them. What is so special about the "kisses" of Belarus that cost so much money? laughing
      Maybe it's not so straightforward


      Today in Ukraine, turn off the hot water and heating.
      This is a fact.
      If everything is "completely straightforward" then Minsk would have been frozen out long ago ...
      Something like this ... request
      1. Old Boy
        Old Boy 30 October 2018 22: 00
        +1
        It is unlikely. Once, back in the late USSR, it was believed that Poland without the USSR would bend and freeze. Well, you go ...
        But I'm not talking about that. And that reasoning similar to what we see in the article is valid only for the philistine level of awareness. Accordingly, both the value of the author’s conclusions and the picture he draws are far from accurate.
        1. Olezhek
          31 October 2018 08: 41
          0
          It is unlikely. Once, back in the late USSR, it was believed that Poland without the USSR would bend and freeze. Well here you go.


          Well, what are you going to do?

          1 Poland admitted to the EU. Belarus does not shine from the word at all.
          2 Poland has become the de facto privileged partner of the United States (unlike ALL other ex-sovripribly. Belarus in this role? That's just funny.
          3 In Poland, the Westerners actually built something and "invested" something. Belarus? 28 years after the USSR? Well, what are you waiting for? What are your "Western friends" waiting for
          4 Millions of Poles in good times left for Germany and England (within the EU!)
          This does not shine for Belarusians from the word at all - neither the EU, nor the right to work in it (Europeans of the 7 grade)
          5 Ukrainians also 15 years crucified as they follow the example of Poland will go to the West.
          And where are they? why do they turn off everything nafigg, nafigg?
          6 Turks are already joining the EU for several generations ... Why?

          Come on, what are you? Where are you going?
          Why is a poor, small and isolated from the sea RB fartanet where Ukraine and Turkey screwed up (large, interesting powers)?

          Give another Adynian example of relatively successful European integration (from Tallinn to Sofia)
          At least one
    2. Olezhek
      31 October 2018 08: 56
      0
      Here's what I can’t understand: such and rhetorically similar articles have been appearing for about twenty years. Listen, Lukashenko has been in power for 25 years


      And recently, Belarusians were specifically pointed to the door
      Enough to pull money from Russia and engage in demagogy. That was the message.
      1. Old Boy
        Old Boy 31 October 2018 12: 29
        +1
        These songs, as I said, last almost two decades. What do you mean "stop pulling money"? Is this a question for Belarus? Why does the Russian elite support the Belarusian. Long and expensive. There is a reason. Altruism? Do not make me laugh. Or you have to admit that the former chairman of the collective farm bred the former KGB colonel like a sucker. Long and successful. Do you believe it? Me not. There are no naive fools at this level. From any side. This is my point.
        And to discuss successful or unsuccessful integration processes in the EU and the types of people is completely ungrateful. Moreover, the article is not about that.
        1. Olezhek
          1 November 2018 14: 11
          0
          Why then the Russian elite supports the Belarusian. Long and expensive. There is some reason. Altruism? Do not make me laugh.


          You see, if you don't understand anything, you won't understand it anymore.
          You know, if people do not understand the human language, they start talking to them differently.
          Mr Peskov stated relatively recently that he "hopes" the Militia will have ample ammunition

          So yes, you are right - absolutely - "altruism" in relation to Ukraine ended abruptly - education began by the method of "physical influence"
          Slogan of the week: "To every ukropatriot on the HE shell" with delivery. "

          There is little funny here.
          By the way, the evil uncle Putin still regularly recalls about nuclear weapons.
          So everything can be not very funny.
          And somehow even tragic ...
  19. Nait
    Nait 29 October 2018 14: 51
    +2
    After Lukashenko, any development option
    The event begins to seem interesting.
    ************************************************** **

    I remember during the Chechen brawl there was a mass of appeals
    fence off from them a fence, send away and forget.
    And such a call seemed right - they said they got it ...
    But in strategic terms this is not true.
    So it is with White Russia ....

    In addition, it would be nice for local leaders to learn how to preserve production from the Old Man.
    Yes, even if somewhere at the expense of Russia, but it didn’t ruin it, it’s not the “Abramovichs” who left it, didn’t carry out a complete de-industrialization.
    And this is felt in everything from the quality of the products (without plasticine (palm oil), without E **, without ...) to the quality of the goods themselves.
    In Russia, it’s easier to list what hasn’t collapsed, for everything else, except for the rocking chair, has been worked out - from machine tool construction to the aircraft industry.
    My dad is on the go ... - I only respect him for that.
    1. Olezhek
      29 October 2018 16: 26
      +1
      I remember during the Chechen brawl there was a mass of appeals
      fence off from them a fence, send away and forget.
      And such a call seemed right - they said they got it ...
      But in strategic terms this is not true.


      Belarus (unlike Chechnya) is an internationally recognized sovereign state.
      And between the two sovereign states usually put a fence.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 29 October 2018 16: 26
      -4
      Jump above about ruined. We handed everything over to the dad in his private property right down to the state and still blather. Although "ruining" is sometimes useful, especially when it really works at a loss, and we never had third-party money to subsidize everyone indefinitely, we had to solve our own problems and subsidize you.

      And yes, palm oil is normal vegetable fat. But you continue to be afraid of any andron colliders and radiations. Cacti still go at the monitor you put.
  20. Victor N
    Victor N 29 October 2018 14: 53
    0
    Braavo! Everything is absolutely correct (finally, thank God!). Will he take anyone ?!
  21. Nait
    Nait 29 October 2018 17: 28
    +1
    Quote: Olezhek
    usually put up a fence.

    Well, for now, behind this fence, there is a "country" sitting on allowance from a neighbor, general air defense, ....
  22. Nait
    Nait 29 October 2018 17: 33
    +5
    Quote: EvilLion
    And yes, palm oil is a common vegetable fat.

    Fuck the ma'am !!!
    Oh, yes, vegetable, but there is also technical and what did you "layered" there you don't know ... and how did you live without this shit before?

    I could not find cookies in the supermarket without this rubbish, from which the weak liver (in the whole digestive tract)
    immediately makes itself felt.
    Soap for children - you’ll buy horseradish for the present - at least two carcinogens (DEA, ....) .... - and here, too, they somehow lived without this kuini earlier.
    This is childish ... - the rest is generally a song.
  23. wooja
    wooja 29 October 2018 17: 50
    +2
    the author as a whole is right ..., the Soviet model supported in Belarus or its local variety has a critical miscalculation, nullifying all the advantages ..., the USSR fell for this reason, constant riots in the former socialist camp ..., there was no theory of socialism communism, as it does not exist even now, but there was and is a mossy dull story of Messrs. Marx and Engels about the early stage of capitalism, and here, as in the east ... that I am reading and building ...., well, they’ve been completed ...., of course that all liberal theories go with a bang ..., sorry for the dad ..., to become a Belarusian Gorbachev ... is not the best end to a political career.
  24. midshipman
    midshipman 29 October 2018 18: 31
    +5
    In Belarus, I had 9 enterprises of the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry in submission. Just like in Ukraine they are closed. And there were excellent research institutes and software.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 30 October 2018 09: 01
      0
      Closed due to lack of demand for their products. So what was there out of the beautiful ?! You were not able to adapt them to a new reality? Although, rather, a certain uncle: the military-industrial complex specialists still do not allow thoughts of their own incompetence in economic matters.
  25. Mr Urri
    Mr Urri 29 October 2018 22: 29
    0
    And you gentlemen, neighbors without PIPE generally live ???
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 30 October 2018 00: 20
    0
    Quote: EvilLion
    Do not disgrace Vissarionich, you are not worthy avatars with him.

    Not for you to judge! sad
    1. Olezhek
      30 October 2018 07: 36
      +1
      In connection with the special status, I propose an avatar I.V. Stalin issue only especially deserved people ... am
  27. Radikal
    Radikal 30 October 2018 00: 21
    +2
    Quote: midshipman
    In Belarus, I had 9 enterprises of the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry in submission. Just like in Ukraine they are closed. And there were excellent research institutes and software.

    In Russia, count how many of them were closed - look in your "eye"! sad
  28. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 30 October 2018 04: 33
    +1
    The relations between our two states are really very strange. But I would not address all the reproaches only to Lukashenko. He then behaves in a natural way: he accepts money and sends it to FIG. Why not take it - when they give it and why not give a damn - when they wipe off.
    By the way, most admirers of current relations use the practice of ukronatsiks: as soon as their selfish interests are affected, a howl rises immediately, that this is a stench on the basis of interethnic relations. They don’t like the Russian Belarusian nation ... quilted jackets, you know, Tambov!
    Calm down - if the people of Belarus feel good from all this camarilla, then I am only glad. At least some people in this world are good. Hallelujah!
    But I doubt very much that the Russian authorities will at least somehow rejoice for their own people. And he will gladly send the money saved in Belarus to help ... at least to his poor pensioners. I do not believe, said Stanislavsky and I agree with him.
    In fact, the author speaks from the position of an unhappy Russian bureaucracy - this is really a disgrace: instead of shoving budget money into their pockets, they are forced to give some kind of fake Fatherland. And what kind of money ... is breathtaking.
    So, neither the Russian people, nor the oligarchs loyal to his friends are neither warm nor cold ... from this article. Native oligarchs are not in Belarus, so the last pennies will shake from their own citizens. Well, the people ... and who and when the people were interested in?
    The only thing ... what the Russian people are judging among themselves, gentlemen-comrades Belarusians, that somehow assurances of eternal friendship with Russia and simultaneous fraternization with those who really kill Russians (while on their territory) and dream of Ukrainian tanks on the streets of Moscow and Rostov.
    Or maybe this is your secret dream? Ugh ... ugh ...
    1. Olezhek
      30 October 2018 10: 03
      0
      But I doubt very much that the Russian authorities will at least somehow rejoice for their own people. And he will gladly send the money saved in Belarus to help ... at least to his poor pensioners. I do not believe, said Stanislavsky and I agree with him.



      This is already a problem for the Russians themselves.
  29. Rollet
    Rollet 30 October 2018 04: 33
    +5
    Every time you read such "analytics" I would like to ask: "And for whom, do you work" panochka "?"
    You might think that all these billions are called not "loans" but "gratuitous aid"? And besides, it is interest-free.
    Somehow I can't believe in the altruism of the Russian aligarhat. I have been living and working in Russia for several years. I did not see the blessed ones there. But custom-made "writers" are found in any quantity.
    1. Olezhek
      30 October 2018 10: 05
      +1
      Every time you read such "analytics" I would like to ask: "And for whom, do you work" panochka "?"


      And every time I am asked a similar question, I want to ask in response: In whose interests does Mr. Lukashenko pursue the foreign policy of the Republic of Belarus?
  30. g_ae
    g_ae 30 October 2018 07: 20
    +4
    Quote: Mr urri
    And you gentlemen, neighbors without PIPE generally live ???

    In fact, the pipeline through Belarus belongs to Gazprom. But here's a counter question. And you yourself, gentlemen, will live without a PIPE? It is the Sly One who made the country an "energy superpower". And so. Why do you need Belarus as part of the Russian Federation. Donbass wanted to join the Russian Federation. And the result? The most passionate ones were disposed of, they decided not without the tacit approval of the Kremlin. Picked out sweets, stuff the leftovers back into Nenka. Yes, and the Chinese in the Far East and Siberia have probably already given several Crimea (it's my fault, they rented it for 50 years). I doubt that in 50 years you will get these territories back. You can’t dispose of yours, except how to sell it on the cheap and dump it. What can we say about us. Well, let's unite. "Effective managers" and "socially responsible businessmen" will come. They will sell it, then they will buy it for a cheap price and sell it again at an exorbitant price (guilty, optimizing).
    1. Mr Urri
      Mr Urri 31 October 2018 00: 07
      0
      We live !!!
  31. baltiksi
    baltiksi 30 October 2018 13: 31
    +3
    The author is largely right about the fact that the Republic of Belarus receives subsidies from the Russian Federation. But at the same time, Lukashenko and the population of the Republic of Belarus living within the borders of the republic are completely different things. The vast majority of the population (namely the population, not the people) in the Republic of Belarus are inclined positively towards Russia and no Russophobic chatter can change this mood. You just have to admit that under Lukashenko, any entry into Russia cannot be expected. Most likely, under another leader too. Well, imagine who Lukashenko is in Russia? The head of the federal district, as a maximum. And in the Republic of Bashkortostan, the President of an independent country ... Residences, airplanes, presentations, honor and respect ... one word "Father". And the "elite" of Russia, this situation with the Republic of Belarus is more familiar. Outskirts, until 2014. Take a closer look at yourself ... who benefits from it. Ma and Lukashenko are two big differences. We are for joining Russia, do you need it ...
    1. Olezhek
      1 November 2018 07: 08
      0
      The vast majority of the population (namely the population, not the people) in Belarus are positive about Russia and no Russophobic chatter about this mood can change



      No matter how fairytales are no longer needed: all opposition activity there is under euroflags.
      Nobody goes with the Russians to the square.

      . But at the same time, Lukashenko and the population of Belarus living within the borders of the republic are completely different things.


      That is, Lukashenko stupidly dangles in the air, not relying on anyone?
      And what happens?
    2. Olezhek
      1 November 2018 07: 11
      0
      Well, just imagine, who is Lukashenko in the Russian Federation? The head of the federal district, as a maximum. And in the Republic of Belarus, the President of an independent country ... Residences, planes, presentations, honor and respect ... one word "Old Man".


      And you try to imagine Minsk where they turn off hot water, heating (in winter!) And stop paying pensions and salaries to state employees ...
      And then he will have everything and "honor and respect."
  32. ship
    ship 30 October 2018 17: 36
    0
    Quote: Olezhek
    Every time you read such "analytics" I would like to ask: "And for whom, do you work" panochka "?"


    And every time I am asked a similar question, I want to ask in response: In whose interests does Mr. Lukashenko pursue the foreign policy of the Republic of Belarus?

    There is an opinion that in personal.
  33. DesToeR
    DesToeR 30 October 2018 20: 31
    0
    The author, do you seriously think that giving up its claims to the former imperial territories, modern Russia will find itself in some "super position"? You are making a banter about Lukashenka, but you yourself do not notice that you are operating with a similar parochial logic of a "strong business executive". It is impossible to express everything in the world only by commodity-money relations. Moreover, most of the decisions are made in spite of the profit, because money in the world for those in power is nothing. Power is the most valuable thing. Believe that if you leave the former republics of the USSR, then immediately there will be a force that will replace you there. And you can joke about Lukashenko, Poroshenko and Pashinyan, but this force is there and it is interested in power over these countries. If there is power, there will be money. The reason for the collapse of the British Empire was only one demand from the United States for assistance in the supply of weapons during WWII - equal rights in trade in the British colonies. As a result, less than a quarter of a century has passed since the Empire, over which the Sun had never set, ceased to exist.
    1. Olezhek
      1 November 2018 07: 18
      +2
      You make banter about Lukashenko, but you don’t notice it yourself,


      Lukashenko spoke about the enthusiasm of the West from the position of Belarus in the Crimea


      He himself is no worse than anyone ...
  34. Yuri_
    Yuri_ 31 October 2018 10: 38
    +1
    It becomes even interesting, but what does this article offer?
    Suppose Belarus has become part of the Russian Federation. What exactly does this fact give Russians except moral satisfaction?
    It will not be possible to influence the decisions of the heads of state that determine the nature and amount of RF assistance to Belarus. And even to put pressure on the "conscientiousness" of the Belarusians will not work, since they will not be able to influence their president. But you can warm up mutual grievances. Is the article written for this?

    And by the way, one more thing. Analysis of the state is not visible. budget of the Republic of Belarus and substantiation of the need for subsidies from the Russian Federation, there are no statistics, according to which Belarusians are perceived as "quarrelsome", there are only thoughts aloud. Everyone can dream up.
  35. Note 2
    Note 2 1 November 2018 16: 42
    -1
    Well, for all the nishtyaks, father returned to Russia by selling ammunition to Syrian terrorists.
    1. meGrail
      meGrail 3 November 2018 18: 06
      0
      Did the Syrian terrorists call you and personally tell you? Or did Lukashenko send the documents?
      1. Note 2
        Note 2 4 November 2018 09: 58
        0
        Personally, E. Ya. Satanovsky told me about this in one of Solovyov’s programs, you are not far from ours.
    2. Mentor
      Mentor 4 November 2018 11: 56
      -1
      And Russia also supplies terrorists with weapons (judging by your logic, because every Arab has a Kalashnikov in his hands) ... "Minus" for lying to you.
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  36. Oleg2003
    Oleg2003 3 November 2018 18: 25
    +1
    Everything is written correctly. I will add: Belarusian goods, with the exception of products, and even not all of them, are not needed even by the Belarusians themselves. And in the Grodno and Brest regions, and products are not needed. That is, the production was preserved for the sake of production, but not all. In many district centers, union enterprises are shopping and entertainment centers. I will add that recently (since 2014), the Natsik’s sentiments and the Republic of Belarus have grown significantly, all of them poor Russia are deprived. And the country subsidizes ALL enterprises and agricultural at the expense of Russian oil and gas. For some reason, no one wants to recall that when Father in 2010 began to actively flirt with the West, Kudrin and Co. blocked his shop with oil and gas. And in 2011, the standard of living fell 3 times.
    1. Note 2
      Note 2 5 November 2018 12: 46
      -1
      Your truth, and even Belarusians go to the Far East with various goods, the quality is so-so and the price is sky-high.
  37. kaschey
    kaschey 5 November 2018 15: 31
    +1
    “In fact,“ planned-unprofitable ”Belarus had to become a part of the Russian Federation, but not regions and districts, but, so to speak, entirely, en masse. . No other way."
    You will not wait !!! What would people like you say that we drink you, feed you, etc. and so on, and why do you need "planned unprofitable" as well. It is necessary to develop interstate relations on a mutually beneficial basis, isn't it ....
    It is easier and more profitable for everyone to build relations with the regions of Russia, where "appetites" are more modest in comparison with the center and the common people get more dividends ...
  38. Serge_023
    Serge_023 16 January 2019 18: 02
    0
    Almost everything is true, only there is one big BUT: the absolute majority of Belarusians have never looked and will not look at the "shitty geyrope", while there is no anti-Russian propaganda and it never existed, it is not worth talking about the sweet life in Russia, and even more so about The way of integration that the author advocates, a certain arrogance of our leadership has developed immunity, and as for the presence of "hot heads" in our ranks, this is a completely normal process under its reasonable control, as an example you can watch and evaluate the statements of your "hot heads" ! And remember gentlemen, we still very well understand the union, the Second World War and the price we paid TOGETHER, and leave the attempt to divide US into Russians and Belarusians to the west, and do not forget Milosevic's speech about Russia, Belarus, Ukraine!