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In Kiev "outraged" by the statement of the deputy head of the OSCE mission Hug

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And the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine smashed "to shreds and dust" the statement of the OSCE Deputy Head Alexander Hug about the fact that the organization’s observers did not find evidence of the Russian presence in Donbass. The First Vice-Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, Irina Gerashchenko, generally called the Hugue statement “flawed and unsuccessful”, stating that in the Donbas every day “this Russian equipment is being watched.”


In Kiev "outraged" by the statement of the deputy head of the OSCE mission Hug


Earlier, OSCE Mission Deputy Head Alexander Hug, in an interview with Foreign Policy, stated that the OSCE mission did not see direct evidence of the presence of the Russian army in Donbas, although mission members saw people in jackets with the Russian army designation on the territory of Donbass, but such jackets are sold in all stores on the territory Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics. The magazine later deleted this interview, stating that "it did not convey the point of view that Hug wanted to designate."

In response to this interview, First Deputy Speaker of the Rada, Irina Gerashchenko, called Hug's statement "flawed and unsuccessful," expressing the hope that "this is an unfortunate phrase, not a position." She claims that the OSCE mission almost every week fixes in the Donbass “Russian equipment that you cannot buy at the bazaar,” but, as always, could not bring evidence.

Earlier in Moscow, they said that all of Kiev’s statements about the almost daily supplies of equipment and ammunition to the territory of Donbass are “absolute nonsense.”
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  1. Zhelezyakin
    Zhelezyakin 26 October 2018 14: 57
    +8
    but could not bring evidence as always
    Somehow predictable ...
    1. figwam
      figwam 26 October 2018 15: 03
      +22
      For five years, the Russian armies were grinding, but it turned out that they fought with themselves.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 26 October 2018 20: 26
        +1
        But the OSCE also annealed ... After 4 years of observation, they suddenly found out that those whom they were observing were absent ... And they admitted it.
    2. Finches
      Finches 26 October 2018 15: 07
      +23
      As correctly noted - Hug, hugni will not say ...! laughing
      1. Evil543
        Evil543 26 October 2018 19: 02
        0
        “For four and a half years, I have clearly stated that the SMM does not speculate, does not draw conclusions based on established facts,” he stressed. “The facts that we list in the reports that we publish and that I have voiced in an interview speak for themselves. <...> We work in Ukraine and will support Ukraine, ”added Hug.

        He explained that the mission recorded data according to which there are various types of weapons of Russian origin in the territory not controlled by the Ukrainian authorities. Also, according to Hug, the mission spoke with prisoners who are being held by servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. These prisoners “claim that they are representatives of the regular troops of Russia and are in Ukraine on a rotational basis,” the representative of the mission added.

        Something like this happens and our prisoners were even found
        1. Finches
          Finches 26 October 2018 19: 11
          +1
          Life is a tricky thing! hi
          1. Evil543
            Evil543 26 October 2018 19: 12
            0
            I wonder who will be instead recourse he seems to have a week left
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 26 October 2018 15: 40
      +4
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      Somehow predictable ..

      and already filled their teeth with a blab
    4. venik
      venik 26 October 2018 17: 45
      +2
      Quote: Zhelezyakin
      but could not bring evidence as always
      Somehow predictable ...

      ==========
      Also HOW "predictable" !!!:

      As the saying goes: "Comments - EXCESSIVE !!! (The diagnosis is" written "on the" face ") ...... laughing
  2. AshiSolo
    AshiSolo 26 October 2018 15: 02
    +16
    So the Khokhlov themselves have "Russian equipment that cannot be bought at the bazaar." xD It turns out that the Ukrainians themselves are the Russian army and are at war with themselves? My brain is defeated :)
    1. Vard
      Vard 26 October 2018 15: 04
      +11
      Soviet ... Soviet equipment there ... From old stocks ...
      1. AshiSolo
        AshiSolo 26 October 2018 16: 36
        +2
        Russian equipment there. And as similar to the one that is in service with the Russian Federation and like the one that should have remained in the Russian Federation after the collapse of the union. And do not get African monkeys through the country of idiots.
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 26 October 2018 17: 04
          0
          What kind of technique?
      2. Borsht
        Borsht 26 October 2018 23: 38
        0
        Quote: Vard
        Soviet ... Soviet equipment there ... From old stocks ...

        If the equipment was produced in the RSFSR, then first it is Russian, and then Soviet.
  3. morpogr
    morpogr 26 October 2018 15: 08
    +4
    And again, Russia is at war with us; the crazy Ukrainian politician shouts, but Russia did not know about it and did not come to war. And so in a circle while in power in Ukraine such scum.
    1. A good one
      A good one 26 October 2018 15: 41
      +4
      Now they’ll shoot him for sure, rotation of shots.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 26 October 2018 19: 09
        +1
        Quote: Not bad
        Now they’ll shoot him for sure, rotation of shots.

        Something the mission led by Hug began to somehow suspiciously see. Either three weeks ago they spotted the Ukaini BUKs where they shouldn't be, then here they didn’t make out the Russian armad. It’s strange. Hug probably wants to be removed from the leadership of the mission, since he’s already sick of lying himself, or does he know something that so far few know? winked
      2. The comment was deleted.
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 26 October 2018 15: 10
    +8
    It turns out that Hug is not such a despicable kid, but even an almost correct chatlanin ... But the publication was deleted when people smarter than the journalists read it more closely - that’s all the freedom of speech
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 17: 40
      +2
      Yes, everyone understands everything, including in Ukraine. The policy of the "party" of the United States demands to keep our mouths shut. Five percent of Banderites in Ukraine are in charge of the opinion of the rest. Fifty percent got angry with Russia as a result of aggressive media propaganda. The rest are either bewildered, or keep their mouths shut, living in constant fear of the Banderaites. See what we have. We already hate not only Ukrainians. If you don’t want to help fraternal peoples, you don’t need to, but to hate because of your nationality is the impact of propaganda. Well I got excited about something drinks This I do not complain to you - to the readers of the site
    2. Evil543
      Evil543 26 October 2018 18: 58
      0
      Read his interview "... we support Ukraine ..."
  5. major071
    major071 26 October 2018 15: 10
    +25
    Shaking fists, generously spraying saliva
    She told everyone from the rostrum that Hug was completely blind
    What a loser in life, nonsense is impotent
    Kohl cannot see the whole Russian contingent there
    And she threatened him with punishment, shouting - throw away the mandate!
    Representative of the government and MP
    If there were fewer of them in the Rada - for the whole head of the sick
    Like Gerashchenko Irina - maybe there wouldn’t be a war
    But while all the demoniac in the parliament do not curb
    Peace days without a whistle bullets in the Donbass can not see
    wink drinks
    1. Special department
      Special department 26 October 2018 15: 36
      +5
      As always, the major to the point and with black humor ..! good
      In general, they waited in Donbass for "polite" ones, but they never got there .. The volunteers were "tourists", volunteers. Many militias stood to their death with the confidence that help would come soon ..
      After all, "Russians do not abandon their own," but alas .. Eternal memory to the fallen heroes for the Russian world, for you and me .. 9 who continue to die under the blows of the bloody junta of Waltzman and K "
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 26 October 2018 17: 47
        +1
        I am often ashamed that I did not join LDNR in 2014. Even if you and I did not communicate now. Circumstances. Eternal memory to the defenders of LDNR. I express my sincere hope that the Russian army will still support you
    2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 26 October 2018 17: 09
      +1
      If you publish a poetry collection, I’m the first copy with a signature
  6. Yuri T.
    Yuri T. 26 October 2018 15: 13
    +1
    After the start of open and massive deliveries of weapons and ammunition from the United States, Irina Gerashchenko will have a chance to compare the effectiveness of the use of Soviet and Russian weapons in the Armed Forces and spiteful enemies.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 22: 38
      0
      And she also has more chances to fight the real Russian military
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 26 October 2018 15: 13
    +1
    Well, I couldn’t!
    Feed-feed should be better, and so they tried their best! Yes, still need to bother less! Sales mother mom can vzbryknut if a bite and even think of a bite!
  8. IvanT
    IvanT 26 October 2018 15: 15
    +1
    What a twist
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 17: 51
      0
      For Hug it is a "wrong turn". I wonder if he will be fired tomorrow or retroactively?
  9. Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 26 October 2018 15: 23
    +2
    Irina Gerashchenko called Hug's statement "flawed and unsuccessful"
    I would still apologize to Hug. Excessively lively woman ....
  10. Mamuka Petrovich
    Mamuka Petrovich 26 October 2018 15: 24
    +1
    Again zrada, on the "Peacemaker" his wassat
  11. Conductor
    Conductor 26 October 2018 15: 29
    +1
    So they themselves observe.
  12. andrei2911
    andrei2911 26 October 2018 15: 34
    +1
    Without even touching on the Western "freedom of speech" and the fabrications of the ukrochinovniki about the Russian technology in the Donbas. Suppose we supplied S-400 systems to China, and Su-30MKI aircraft to India. God forbid, a conflict will break out between them. So what? This will be a war between Russia and Russia, because both of them have military equipment in service. Another question is that the Americans are supplying Ukraine with military equipment and weapons. Does this mean that the US army is fighting in the Donbas?
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 22: 43
      0
      In the Donbas, Ukrainians are fighting at the behest of the United States
  13. Machito
    Machito 26 October 2018 15: 38
    +1
    C (X) UGS! Didn't give a ride. Ukraine has all the equipment of Russian (Soviet) production and're coming out-wunderwafli. The LDNR has everything the same. I wonder if it takes a long time for miners to lay the metro from Donetsk to Rostov? And what if an embargo on all types of goods was imposed on Ukraine, and money, food, goods and weapons were to be thrown at the Donetsk people through the tunnel, and the "North Wind" was turned on? If the standard of living in Donetsk and Lugansk is two to three times higher than in Kiev? The only thing that saves Ukraine from Russia's tough decisions is gas transit to Europe, which ends in 2020.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 17: 58
      0
      Even digging a tunnel is not necessary. Just help them to live better than in Ukraine. And wait until Ukraine in LDN is asked
  14. LSA57
    LSA57 26 October 2018 15: 44
    +5
    She claims that the OSCE mission almost every week records in Donbass "Russian equipment that cannot be bought at the bazaar," but as always, she could not provide evidence.

    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 18: 00
      +1
      They look not there belay
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 26 October 2018 18: 18
        +3
        Quote: igorbrsv
        They look not there

        likely. but find something
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 26 October 2018 22: 50
          0
          Well, this is definitely not a work from the city of Volsk. They release juice in three-liter jars. Own gardens. And fruit wine is not bad
  15. Jerk
    Jerk 26 October 2018 15: 45
    +2
    Yes, everyone says it right, since the jacket with the tricolor is definitely Russian! I've seen fans from Europe in earflaps with a red star in every Champions League match - it’s clear scoops, how else?
    And Hug - yes, he’s lying ... I’m saying for sure ... Maybe because the lackeys of the region have completely lost - and they have been shooting the OSCE for a long time already?
    As already mentioned, the trouble with the post-maid Durkain is that nobody needs it. Neither Russia nor Europe ... For example, the OSCE is not needed at all - and they just do not care about your grievances. They didn’t even want to offend or provoke you, and on your barking from the bushes - Hug won’t even answer you - the dog barks, the wind wears
  16. NF68
    NF68 26 October 2018 15: 59
    +2
    If every day to observe in this way:



    You can also see something cooler.
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 22: 58
      0
      Is beer right? drinks
  17. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 26 October 2018 16: 01
    0
    Another mrii neighbors.
  18. Horon
    Horon 26 October 2018 16: 01
    +2
    Earlier, the deputy head of the OSCE mission, Alexander Hug, in an interview with Foreign Policy stated that the OSCE mission did not see direct evidence of the presence of the Russian army in the Donbas

    Next:
    The magazine later deleted the interview, stating that "it did not convey the point of view that Hug wanted to indicate."

    That is, Hug reversed and abandoned his words. And further:
    First Vice-Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine Irina Gerashchenko generally called Hug's statement "flawed and unsuccessful"

    Irina Giraffe? Or is it abusing brake fluid? We drove already, Irina! Hug your man - do not resent!
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 26 October 2018 23: 02
      0
      It’s just that it was time to put up the go-ahead with Russia, but he has already stated. We are waiting for the round. Trump - Putin
  19. AlexHens
    AlexHens 26 October 2018 16: 05
    +3
    And in my opinion, this is Sergei Netievsky from the "Ural dumplings". Therefore, he cannot see anything bad there.
    1. Vorchun
      Vorchun 26 October 2018 16: 50
      +1
      The same thing occurred to me


      1. akunin
        akunin 26 October 2018 17: 27
        +1
        hug in Russian scratches, almost without an accent, I know "dumpling" laughing
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 26 October 2018 23: 04
          0
          Like de bashirov and chepiga wassat
  20. Etienne
    Etienne 26 October 2018 16: 50
    +1
    When exactly what this chicken told us happens, she and the beak will not have time to open ...
  21. Curious
    Curious 26 October 2018 17: 00
    +1
    There is nothing to argue about. Everyone has long known that weapons for LDNR in the deep dungeons are forged by the Svartalvas, who also forged weapons to the ancient gods, for example, the Torah. Therefore, forging a tank or cannon, not to mention cartridges and shells for them is a mere trifle.
  22. APASUS
    APASUS 26 October 2018 17: 05
    +1
    Here she is "freedom of speech" in the West, in full glory:
    the deputy head of the OSCE mission, Alexander Hug, in an interview with Foreign Policy stated that the OSCE mission did not see direct evidence of the presence of the Russian army in the Donbas. Later, the journal deleted this interview

    These are just those who criticize us and teach freedom in the media!
  23. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 26 October 2018 17: 43
    0
    ... Ah, the deputies of BP have horns and hooves! I know for sure! True, no one saw, but they are)))
  24. Antares
    Antares 26 October 2018 23: 23
    -1
    for a week she has been recording in Donbass "Russian equipment that cannot be bought at the bazaar", but as always, she could not provide evidence.

    and the meaning of proving the official position is "ichtamnet" or Yevgeny Erofeev and Alexander Alexandrov, captured in battle and killed a Ukrainian serviceman, were also "ichtamnet" with all the support.
    However, the official position is known
    certain groups of military personnel could get lost on the border and end up on the territory of a neighboring state.

    Vadim Pugachev will not resurrect ...
    and equipment that you can’t buy, yes you can buy any ...
    for me personally, all this "we are not there" lie ended with Shots

    and shells

    although the logic of the war is such that equipment and ammunition, fuel do not appear out of nowhere, and "winds" do not come by themselves, and neither does cross-border shelling.
    What is the difference between the USA and the Russian Federation, the first ones do not be shy. They say it is ours. We will officially deliver weapons and other assistance. And this is not set.
    The position of the Russian Federation is the opposite. "Nastamnet", but we will put (secretly) everything that is needed for the necessary status quo (our understanding)
    and we will threaten everyone than we are able to change the status quo.
    That is, everyone knows that ORDiLO is supplied by the Russian Federation and controlled by the Russian Federation. But officially "will come" and "Ikhtamnet"
    1. Consultant
      Consultant 26 October 2018 23: 38
      0
      Quote: Antares
      for me personally, all this "we are not there" lie ended in Shots and Shells

      Beautiful pictures. But do not tell me what they have to do with LDNR?

      Quote: Antares
      ORDILO

      Oh yes here Svidomo walk o_O
      1. Dr.KonradMorgen
        Dr.KonradMorgen 27 October 2018 00: 10
        -2
        Quote: Antares
        ORDILO

        Oh yes here Svidomo walk o_O

        In fact - ORDLO or ORDiLO (which stands for "separate areas of Donetsk and Luhansk regions") is the officially accepted designation in Ukraine for territories controlled by the DPR and LPR. It doesn't surprise you that the Argentines and the British call the Malvinas / Falkland Islands, shall we say, a little differently? smile
        1. Consultant
          Consultant 27 October 2018 00: 15
          -1
          Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
          the designation of territories officially adopted in Ukraine

          Enough. The preposition "in" quite clearly indicates your position.

          Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
          You are not surprised, after all, that the Argentines and the British call the Malvinas / Falkland Islands, let's say, a little differently?

          Almost nothing surprises me.

          I wrote that the previous speaker refers to the "Svidomo" (in translation - conscious) residents of the territory of Ukraine. You have not refuted my words, as it seems to me.
          1. Dr.KonradMorgen
            Dr.KonradMorgen 27 October 2018 00: 27
            -2
            I know how the word "svidomiy" is translated into Russian - because I speak Ukrainian fluently. wink smile The trick is that in Russian the transcribed Ukrainianism "Svidomo" is the same word - "political marker" as in Ukraine the use of the preposition "in" or "on" in relation to the name of the country.
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 27 October 2018 00: 32
              -1
              Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
              transcribed Ukrainianism is ... a "political marker"

              belay Scribed ... well, you have to wink
              1. Dr.KonradMorgen
                Dr.KonradMorgen 27 October 2018 00: 33
                -2
                Don't you know what "transcription" is? smile
                1. Consultant
                  Consultant 27 October 2018 00: 34
                  -2
                  Quote: Dr.KonradMorgen
                  what is "transcription"

                  I guess wink

                  Ottranskreb already, if there is nothing to say stop
                  1. Dr.KonradMorgen
                    Dr.KonradMorgen 27 October 2018 00: 36
                    -2
                    So I already kind of all I wanted, I told you ... laughing
      2. Mimoprohodil
        Mimoprohodil 27 October 2018 09: 51
        0
        Quote: Consultant
        Beautiful pictures. But do not tell me what they have to do with LDNR?

        Military exercises in the LPR do not know how to relate to the LPR? Or do you have any complaints about the news-front?
  25. Dr.KonradMorgen
    Dr.KonradMorgen 27 October 2018 00: 05
    0
    Actually - main message Alexandra Hug was literally the following:
    "The facts are obvious - the sides did not withdraw their weapons. We, together with civilians in eastern Ukraine, see these weapons every day. The sides did not carry out demining work. We see mines every day. Of the over 400 civilian casualties this year, more than a quarter were victims of mine explosions. and ammunition, which had not previously worked. The sides did not separate forces and means. We see them in close proximity along the entire contact line, "said Mr. Hug. According to him, this "inevitably indicates an increase in the number of violations" of the ceasefire regime in the future. Hug noted that last week the OSCE SMM recorded 3286 violations. "As experience shows and as our warnings testify in every case, ESCALATION IS INEVITABLE", - said Mr. Hug.
  26. iouris
    iouris 27 October 2018 13: 43
    0
    The statement and the translation of the statement do not coincide precisely on the main thesis. Or does someone suspect Huga of impartiality? I wonder how the Russian Foreign Ministry participates in the selection of "independent observers"?