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Report: China has destroyed over 3 million jobs in the US

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About 3,4 million jobs in the US were lost after China joined the World Trade Organization 17 years ago, writes Asia Times with reference to the report of the American Institute of Economic Policy.




According to analysts, the reason for the loss of jobs was the increase in the trade deficit with China in the period from 2001 to 2017 year. More than 74% of the total losses fell on the American industry, the “tragedy” affected the 50 states.

The impact was on the electronics industry and the computer industry, as the largest companies moved their production to China. This gave rise to a crisis in the sphere of production in the USA itself and provoked the growth of anti-Chinese sentiment, which under Donald Trump had grown into an “economic cold war”.

According to researchers, most of the trade deficit is in the electronic and computer industries, which have lost more than 1,2 million jobs. The reduction in the number of jobs was also influenced by the growth in imports of aluminum, steel and other capital-intensive products.

It was these consequences that caused the trade war between Washington and Beijing. Nevertheless, experts say, in China, Trump's actions are perceived as hostile, aimed at curbing the country's economic growth and military power.

According to experts, the excess of Chinese imports over US exports was due to the economic policy of Beijing, which subsidizes some industries. This led to a multiple increase in the import flow of subsidized goods, which in turn led to a reduction in wages in the United States.

Naturally, Beijing has repeatedly denied these allegations, insisting that he believes in free trade, open markets and does not violate WTO rules, the material says.

At the same time, the Communist Party of China does not hide the fact that the main goal of the Chinese leadership is to transform "a big country into a strong power." And the key value for this course is production based on innovation.

Meanwhile, the United States decided to take on China thoroughly. The end of the trade war is not visible yet. However, many analysts fear that the conflict could go beyond the scope of trade and bring more heavy losses. So on the eve of the ex-commander of US forces in Europe, Ben Hodges said that after years of 15, a war might break out between the US and China. In this regard, he called on the Allies to become “European support” for America. According to him, Washington does not have the ability to "do everything that is needed" at the same time in the Pacific region and in Europe to cope with the Chinese threat.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 25 October 2018 14: 10
    +19
    Report: China has destroyed over 3 million jobs in the US
    And how much is Uzbekistan. Armenia and so on. Destroyed jobs in Russia ???? repeat
    About 3,4 million US jobs were lost after China joined the World Trade Organization 17 years ago, Asia Times writes.
    And when they write how many jobs Russia has lost in a single economic space ???? belay
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 25 October 2018 14: 14
      +7
      The population is being prepared, soon all production will be exported from China ... Trump still speaks and does .. but ours is silent and does .. though it is silent before the elections, and after ... the retirees will receive pension reform for those of you VAT, gasoline, housing and communal services .. something else I’ve probably come up with ..
      1. krot
        krot 25 October 2018 14: 16
        +20
        The USA itself brought production to China, and China turned out to be extreme) Striped in its repertoire.
        1. Logall
          Logall 25 October 2018 14: 29
          +7
          This is just an excuse for manipulating the WTO. This is their organization ... Leverage on the markets. So they are setting the stage ... And at the same time all those who are objectionable ...
          Example: sanctions contradict the WTO charter, but the whole world is silent. It's so "democratic" ...
          1. For example
            For example 25 October 2018 15: 04
            +5
            Quote: Observer2014
            And how much is Uzbekistan. Armenia and so on. Destroyed jobs in Russia ???? feel

            Zero. Not at all. Nothing is lost.
            Russia placed production in these countries? What are you speaking about?
            You probably about the wipers. Yes, a blow below the belt on the Russian economy lol

            Apparently, due to the arrival of migrant workers, we have lost high-tech industries, as well as metallurgy and machine-tool construction. wassat

            We just got additional working hands; the lack of which in Russia is undeniable.

            Wake up. wink
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 25 October 2018 15: 17
              +9
              Quote: For example
              Zero. Not at all. Nothing is lost.
              Russia placed production in these countries? What are you speaking about?
              You probably about the wipers. Yes, a blow below the belt on the Russian economy

              Janitors, builders, there are even medical workers, teachers .. Construction, as you know, grew from 2006 to 2015 at a frantic pace, and those 6 ml. Migrant workers, mastered a small share of the money, in addition, they took 6 ml from Russian citizens. work places! This is 10% of the working population of the country. Also, they seriously affected the growth of the RFP for their own population .. And of course, they do not pay taxes. That is, the builder could receive 100 tons, and the guest worker 20 tons .. So the guest workers ate a serious piece ..


              Quote: For example
              Apparently, due to the arrival of migrant workers, we have lost high-tech production,

              Do we have high-tech production? Do not tell me which?
              1. For example
                For example 25 October 2018 15: 24
                +4
                Quote: Svarog
                Do we have high-tech production? Do not tell me which?

                The military-industrial complex will suit you or not feed the horse?

                Demagogy about migrant workers does not deserve attention.
                You still remember the Armenians in public catering in southern Russia and Azerbaijanis in the markets. All this is Russia and all these people are our compatriots, all of them were born on the territory of the Russian Empire. But this is a digression.
                And they pay taxes.

                Heaped obeyed?

                We, unlike the United States, are building new production facilities on our territory, and are not transferring them to the CIS countries.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 25 October 2018 15: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: For example
                  The military-industrial complex will suit you or not feed the horse?

                  On the military-industrial complex, Gaster will not be allowed .. anything else can you remember?
                  Quote: For example
                  We, unlike the United States, are building new production facilities on our territory, and are not transferring them to the CIS countries.

                  Well, call these high-tech industries .. that we are building everything ..
                  Quote: For example
                  Heaped obeyed?

                  It seems that we are not discussing corruption now, where does Navalny have to do with it?
                2. Observer2014
                  Observer2014 25 October 2018 15: 35
                  +1
                  For example
                  You still remember the Armenians in public catering in the south of Russia and Azerbaijanis in the markets. All this is Russia and all these people are our compatriots, all of them were born on the territory of the Russian Empire. But this is a digression.
                  And they pay taxes.
                  Have you been to Russia for a long time? Understand. yes
                  And they pay taxes.
                  Who? belay
                  Demagogy about migrant workers does not deserve attention.
                  ABOUT! Yes. You need to drive you not just to the Canadian border .. And so that your spirit does not remain on Russian soil.
              2. major147
                major147 25 October 2018 21: 17
                0
                [quote = For example] We apparently lost high-tech production due to the arrival of migrant workers, [/ quote]
                Do we have high-tech production? Do not tell me which? [/ Quote]
                There are palaces, there are stations
                Both factory buildings and factory buildings -
                I can tell you the addresses.
            2. Observer2014
              Observer2014 25 October 2018 15: 18
              -1
              For example Today
              Zero. Not at all. Nothing is lost.
              Russia placed production in these countries? What are you speaking about?
              You probably about the wipers. Yes, a blow below the belt on the Russian economy
              laughing Hello to the sleepwalkers! love laughingDo you generally love the citizens of your country? Respect? Yes, what are you talking about, me. Are you all by nationality? Please answer this question. And a lot will be clarified.
              Wake up
              It's generally beyond laughing wassat
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 25 October 2018 15: 35
            +2
            Quote: Logall
            Example: sanctions are contrary to the WTO charter, but the whole world is silent.

            Sometimes it is necessary to remember that kings change, empires collapse, states break up, and a baker, just as he bakes bread, bakes, which he feeds and feeds others. I mean, do not rush to put someone else’s collar on your neck ...
          3. Mih1974
            Mih1974 26 October 2018 07: 55
            +2
            Excuse me, but is it really possible now to "withdraw production from China", sort of like China's key trend is "make a copy in China." That is, the Chinese (according to rumors) build copies of foreign factories, with exactly the same equipment and rivet 100% of the copies, and from these copies they are already starting to make "Chinese shit". negative
            That is, (conditionally) Yepl "dismantles the iPhone assembly plant and takes it to the USA", well, what next (?) - where will they get trained workers (America has been switching from blue collars to "lawyers" and manicurists for decades), and what will be the prime cost of such an "iPhone" taking into account the delivery of components from China across the ocean, and what will be the impact of the "increase in salaries" when hiring Americans instead of Chinese, and, last but not least, how are we going to fulfill US environmental requirements? Here, by the way, is the main ambush for the "carriers" - the fact that they will "transfer" NOW do not meet environmental requirements (which was one of the reasons for the transfer to China), that is, at least the costs of designing treatment plants and their payment !! negative And at the same time in China itself there will be copies of factories in which the Chinese will rivet ohrilyiliard copies of iPhones, albeit with a different label.
            Well, and the last most "sore point" - and WHERE will they sell goods from these "transported" enterprises? Yes, yes, the Chinese market is already competing with the American one and this is a real market, without the Fed's inflated 40 trillion dollar buyers !! fool
            The Chinese have already hit the Americans on the sick person, on LNG, and then they can "break in" the supply of the same Boingwos and begin to make "unlicensed copies", and the worst thing is that China may impose an embargo on the supply of rare earths to the USA belay all the remnants of the high-tech industry in the usa will become a stake here.
        2. Machito
          Machito 25 October 2018 14: 59
          +14
          It is not China that has decided Americans jobs, but the greed of American corporations.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 21
        +4
        Quote: Svarog
        soon all production will be exported from China.

        Most production withdrawn from China, but this economic titanium does not know this laughing
        But he does not forget in each article to tell how badly he feels in Russia.
      3. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 25 October 2018 16: 54
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        The population is being prepared, soon all production will be exported from China ...

        As soon as he does this, so will kirdyk ... not America, but the Russian consumer market.
        Then we will see a capitalist shortage of goods and lines for everything from cowards to electronics. lol There's not a damn thing left of our own, and the "uevro" is expensive to roll around there, and, again, sanctions ... fellow
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 26 October 2018 08: 01
          +1
          When have you bought at least something Chinese made at legal American factories? How did you decide that your "panties", iron, kettle, ballpoint pen and computer are not made in China, which are only "copies" of American enterprises or generally exclusively Chinese.
          1. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 26 October 2018 08: 18
            0
            Quote: Mih1974
            When did you buy at least something Chinese made at legal American factories?

            Bought this spring. lol Spare parts. lol Firm "Crown", front upper arm. The left one came: "Made in the USA", the right one "Made in China". The one in China turned out to be somewhat longer than its counterpart from the USA lol , which led to the inability to carry out the collapse. request Do you know what this threatens? Such parts are not trademark discrediting? So "Crown" is a Chinese plant in China or an American one? lol
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 26 October 2018 08: 21
              +2
              Wih laugh - but I suspect that BOTH your units are made in China repeat , only "American" was made at a legal factory, but the second one was "made in the third shift")). This tendency is generally in everything, and in geldings, but in Audi, Forads, Mazda sad China has already crushed everyone and everything.
              PySy: I’ll tell you more ((, such two brands as (like) Ford and Mazda are completely incompatible, but as it turned out, they (of a certain model) have the same engines belay At the same time, the difference for the same parts can reach several thousand, and it happens that in the packaging (foolishly or something) they put "the other way around" brands - for Fords Mazda !! I repeat that they have the same engine, with completely different brands, concerns, different prices, but in fact, they are brought from the same Chinese plant.
              1. Sotskiy
                Sotskiy 26 October 2018 08: 28
                -1
                Quote: Mih1974
                Wih laugh - but I suspect that BOTH your units are made in China

                I will disappoint you in your assumptions lol The spare parts are marked with the barcode of the country of the manufacturer, for the fake of which they wear out very painfully, unlike "here". laughing lol Therefore, I don’t have any questions regarding the goods.
              2. goose
                goose 26 October 2018 10: 58
                0
                Quote: Mih1974
                I repeat they have the same engine, with completely different brands, concerns, different prices, but in fact they are being taken from the same Chinese factory.

                What? Mazda belongs to Ford and switched to its platform for about 7 years now. cooperation began even earlier. Therefore, they are compatible.
                1. Mih1974
                  Mih1974 26 October 2018 13: 06
                  0
                  Sorry, I could have made a mistake in the brands and not the "owner" at all,)) I was told this by the owner of a spare parts store (drunk), when it rolled to tell how the ego got all this shit. It was he who pedaled this idea "everything from China", I am only a "reader" here. repeat
      4. major147
        major147 25 October 2018 21: 14
        +2
        Quote: Svarog
        The population is being prepared, soon all production will be exported from China ... Trump still speaks and does .. but ours is silent and does .. though it is silent before the elections, and after ... the retirees will receive pension reform for those of you VAT, gasoline, housing and communal services .. something else I’ve probably come up with ..

        Well, then you yourself for whom? Or is it purely against Putin?
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    3. Jolly oldster sailor
      Jolly oldster sailor 25 October 2018 14: 24
      +7
      They won’t write, don’t wait. 17 years ago, I have 2 large factories in the city, well-known throughout the country, and several factories, smaller ones, worked. Now everything’s worth it, we just live on the fact that we extract oil. Depleted deposits, we drill new wells constantly in order to find mother oil.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 33
        -1
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        Now, everything’s worth it,

        What kind of city is that?
        1. Jolly oldster sailor
          Jolly oldster sailor 25 October 2018 14: 40
          +5
          Buzuluk. Orenburg province. Satisfied?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 48
            -2
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            Are you satisfied?

            Very, and dug around on various sites and that's what I found in general. I won’t spread everything, but maybe you won’t whine, but I’ll get a job
            The level of development of engineering in Buzuluk is quite high. Buzuluk enterprises supply rolling and agricultural equipment, equipment for metallurgy to other cities.

            Light industry ranks third in terms of share of GDP: clothing and furniture, leather goods.

            In the last decade, the city is actively developing, the population is growing. In 2005, for the high economic development indicators, he was awarded the title "Best Municipal Formation of the Orenburg Region".
            1. Jolly oldster sailor
              Jolly oldster sailor 25 October 2018 14: 55
              +7
              It-IT WAS.San, well, it’s better for me to know, agree, I’m not speaking here for Primorye here, it’s better for you to know, so you don’t speak for my city, okay?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 15: 09
                0
                Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
                It was. San.

                I can have fresh nahiti, but I’m not the majority of Sait who is not interested in anything at all. I dig, I am looking for slowly
                Your tyazhmash covered itself with a copper basin a couple of years ago. And what else?
                1. Jolly oldster sailor
                  Jolly oldster sailor 25 October 2018 15: 20
                  +3
                  Shveika is barely breathing, orders from the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs are interrupted, leather haberdashery is covered, BZM stopped collecting radiators for a long time, at one time the "Belarusians" tried to assemble tractors that, but this business did not go ... Yes, Sash-Tyazhmash was covered for a couple of years, much earlier, if anything .. hi
              2. Aingof
                Aingof 26 October 2018 04: 56
                0
                In Orsk YuUMZ got up. sad 3k workers on the street. Ural steel is reduced from 1,5k to 3k workers, the Gaisky mining and processing enterprise is also reduced. In the entire eastern Orenburg region, where the population barely reaches 500k, they cut about 5k jobs. The industry is finished off with shock tempati.
                We are swimming. Where are we going? request
            2. Guru
              Guru 25 October 2018 15: 24
              +5
              Alexander Romanov (Sanya)

              Your source is the same as that of the Minister of Labor and Social Protection Maxim Topilin. lol Who just announced that salaries in the Russian Federation are growing at an "incredible pace"
            3. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 25 October 2018 15: 47
              +6
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Very, and dug around on various sites and that's what I found in general. I won’t spread everything, but maybe you won’t whine, but I’ll get a job

              Listen, here's what I found:
              What car do you drive?
              N. Vorontsova: “Lada Kalina”.
              Vladimir Putin: Good car!
              N. Vorontsova: Great car, great car, I am very pleased.
              Vladimir Putin: And I am very pleased. No wonder I tried.
              *********
              A. Kulachenko: The average salary will be higher, because the third level of assistance assumes that the salary will be higher than in other medical institutions. We are already talking about this, we already know about this, therefore, I think there will be a decent salary.
              Vladimir Putin: With us, you know, In 2018, doctors should have a salary level of 200 percent of the average for the economy in the corresponding region, and junior and middle staff - 100 percent. Therefore, I proceed from the fact that we will be able to achieve these indicators. Today, for doctors, it is already 180 percent.
              N. Kukeeva: We do not complain, do not offend. Not yet, let's see what happens next.
              Vladimir Putin: How nice to talk with you! (Laughter.)

              http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/transcripts/54012
              I didn’t even dig, it’s quite enough for you not to shout too loudly: fellow fellow fellow
              In light of the above, as a bicycle driver, I hasten to inquire about the brand of your car. Also, I suppose, the yellow Lada-Kalina? belay Sometimes ... Sometimes, you should know that people who are over 60 years old are going on the site. Their work experience is 42 years and above. Are you, by any chance, not the author of pension reform? Do you care about our longevity? repeat
          2. polar fox
            polar fox 25 October 2018 17: 41
            +2
            Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
            +2
            Buzuluk. Orenburg province.

            your trouble is complete there ... worse than in Togliatti.
      2. major147
        major147 25 October 2018 21: 23
        +3
        Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
        They won’t write, don’t wait. 17 years ago, I have 2 large factories in the city, well-known throughout the country, and several factories, smaller ones, worked. Now everything’s worth it, we just live on the fact that we extract oil. Depleted deposits, we drill new wells constantly in order to find mother oil.

        About Rostov. Rostselmash works in 2 shifts. Rostvertol - orders for several years. Several large metallurgical plants were built in the area in recent years. Yes you google ...
    4. Ustant
      Ustant 25 October 2018 17: 22
      -1
      Quote: Observer2014
      And when will they write how many jobs Russia has lost in a single economic space?
      When it will be more interesting to you than to smooth the Assad.
  2. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 25 October 2018 14: 13
    +1
    Money, money, money, crap, crap! There is no such crime ..and further down the classics ...
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 25 October 2018 15: 56
      +2
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Money, money, money, crap, crap! There is no such crime ..and further down the classics ...

      You know, I pulled quotes from different people - a reaction to the events of the last week:
      The narrow-mindedness of the Russian authorities ...
      Successful thieves teach life ....
      The country is “imprisoned” exclusively for money ...
      Morality and upbringing are left to their own devices ...
      Power is afraid to live outside power, it is afraid of retirement ...
      The authorities want to be recognized as gods ...
      There are many of them, but do people need so many gods?
      Crush pride ... dip your face in the mud ...
      EP loses confidence after Putin’s rating drop ...
      Accountants seized power over the minds ...
      EP political and economic clan ... Positions itself not as a party, but as a corporation ...
      A celestial, descending from above, agreed to answer the questions of those to whom he will give the right to ask them ...
      People are offered to raise their retirement age, raise VAT, raise excise taxes, raise tariffs for services, introduce per capita standardized (only for the people) consumption of electricity and water, eat foods with an incomprehensible composition, tighten a financial banking stranglehold, tighten their belts and wait for changes will happen ...
      The authorities do not propose any changes to improve our lives - the lives of most citizens ...

      But money has nothing to do with it. As you know, we don’t have them ... crying But their money is not accepted. They don’t consider someone else’s money ... request
  3. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 15
    +10
    It’s a normal move to transfer your factories to China from greed, and then blame China for being unemployed.
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 25 October 2018 14: 26
      0
      Alexander Romanov (Sanya) Alexander hi Here I fully support you!
      It’s a normal move to transfer your factories to China from greed, and then blame China for being unemployed.
      We have almost the same .. Well, except for production. winked So to speak, they settled on the human factor. Workers in the sense. The rod is more talkative to us and to pay less. And since everything is like they are from greed. Well, and stupidity is still probably. Well, so is their capitalism. And here is ours. As they say what kind of capitalism. Such and greed laughing hi
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        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 25 October 2018 14: 36
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Salary at a janitor in Moscow in the 100 000 area

          Really, what? A friend of mine goes to Moscow, for their minimal work there (something about 20 thousand), lives in the basement, I need to tell her.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 36
            -8
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            A friend of mine travels to Moscow, for theirs minimal work there (something about 20 thousand),

            For 20 000 in Moscow wassat wassat wassat Yes i beg you
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 25 October 2018 14: 40
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              For 20 000 in Moscow Yes, I beg you

              I don’t care if you believe me or not. I have a lot of friends go there. Recently, a friend spent three months on watch for 40 thousand per month, on guard. Without experience, on bird rights.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 59
                -4
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                I don’t care if you believe me or not.

                I also do not care that you hang noodles on ravines here
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Recently, a friend spent three months on watch for 40 thousand per month, on guard

                Tell a friend?
                Territory cleaner (shift)
                Vacantum Personnel Holding
                to 60 000 rub.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 25 October 2018 15: 15
                  +2
                  Till 60 thou. With the same success it is possible to write before 200, only nobody will believe in it already. Besides:
                  [quote] Preparing boxes for export [quote]
                  And this is not only cleaning. And why should he? Sits in the warehouse, and sits. At home, he received more than half the income for such work. In offices like "MTS". I am from the Tula region.
        2. Observer2014
          Observer2014 25 October 2018 14: 38
          +4
          Alexander Romanov Alexander
          The salary of a janitor in Moscow in the district of 100, the question is, what the hell do the Russian janitors do not want to work? Zapadlo or hollow?
          Yes, erase you already Sanya. Do not decent yourself like that. Alexander you. You. hi There’s no 100 to work as a janitor in Russia for happiness. In Moscow, of course, they have Russian Elysium there. bully And the storm will strike laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 40
            -4
            Quote: Observer2014
            In Moscow, then of course they have Russian Elysium there. To begin to deprive that enclave of a Muscovite card And a storm will break out

            And what happens belay really people in line janitors lined up?
            Yes, and we have a lot of Gaster cars, they also cover the roofs, also zp in the weaving area
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 25 October 2018 14: 55
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And what really happens then people in line janitors lined up?

              Line up. We get 12,5 wipers. Russians.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 15: 03
                -9
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                We get 12,5 wipers. Russians.

                And we have wipers get about 30 000. Then what? What do you want to tell me? Satisfied with working for 12 thousand, yes ahead. Do not like look for another job, vacancies rampant.
                And if you have enough education, only to work as a janitor is your problem and your friends. I had to listen to mom and study well
            2. Logall
              Logall 25 October 2018 15: 06
              +7
              Namesake, I have been living in the suburbs for two years, working for 60 thousand (thousand). He worked in Moscow for a hundred, so I am a specialist.
              I don’t argue, there are janitors and work for 150000, but in separate golden quarters, there’s no way to get through without a blat. But mostly wipers in Moscow receive 20-30 thousand.
        3. Svarog
          Svarog 25 October 2018 14: 40
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Observer2014
          So to speak, they settled on the human factor. Workers in the sense.

          The salary of a janitor in Moscow in the district of 100, the question is, what the hell do the Russian janitors do not want to work? Zapadlo or hollow?

          Romanov, I gave you advice in the last topic .. tie it with alcohol .. Why 100 tons .. In Moscow, janitors go to work for Ferrari .. do you think you can buy 100 tons of Ferrari?
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 14: 43
            -4
            Quote: Svarog
            . In Moscow, janitors go to work for Ferrari

            What country are you from, that janitors go to ferrari?
            How old are you, dear, that you write such dregs.
            Quote: Svarog
            Romanov, I gave you advice in the last topic .. tie alcohol.

            Tie up with drugs so that you don’t write a snowstorm about Ferrari
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 25 October 2018 14: 50
              +10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov

              What country are you from, that janitors go to ferrari?
              How old are you, dear, that you write such dregs.

              You write nonsense .. about the fact that janitors in Moscow get 100 tons .. and I have sarcasm .. and with a sense of humor you don’t really .. And yes, alcohol, drugs .. kill .. Romanov.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 October 2018 15: 03
                -5
                Quote: Svarog
                And yes, alcohol, drugs .. kill

                You're already dead apparently
        4. Vard
          Vard 25 October 2018 14: 57
          +3
          Maybe they pay this money .. only those who work get twenty thousand dollars ... The rest is taken away by crooks in management companies ...
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 25 October 2018 15: 04
            0
            Yes, even on paper, hardly a hundred thousand. they will draw. This is already complete. How to stick pictures here, who is in the know, something does not work out.
        5. Guru
          Guru 25 October 2018 15: 29
          +5
          Alexander Romanov (Sanya)

          Salary at the janitor in Moscow in the area of ​​100 000- Oh really. Ahahah well made fun. They don’t have such salaries — the maximum is 50, and besides, I’ll eat a room in the region of 30 ty, and I need to eat something else. And the guests from the former do not spend on the room — they live in the basements and eat on bread and water.
        6. major147
          major147 25 October 2018 21: 27
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Observer2014
          So to speak, they settled on the human factor. Workers in the sense.

          The salary of a janitor in Moscow in the district of 100, the question is, what the hell do the Russian janitors do not want to work? Zapadlo or hollow?

          Right !! ?? I’m urgently leaving !!!! ........... But no, I’m not leaving.
          Work as a janitor is almost always of interest only to immigrants from the CIS countries. According to the tariff grid, the payment for cleaning the normative territory for metropolitan wipers is 800 square meters. m., is 13 rubles. In the Central Administrative District, the work of janitors is estimated to be slightly higher, about 500. According to other sources, the work of a janitor in Moscow is estimated even higher, at 15.
          Source: https://visasam.ru/russia/rabotavrf/zarplata-dvornika.html
  4. Skay
    Skay 25 October 2018 14: 17
    +2
    Thirst for profit and competition forced Western businessmen to transfer their production to China. In short, they themselves are to blame.
  5. Imobile
    Imobile 25 October 2018 14: 18
    -2
    And how much did you create? Why work. when can I oversee?
  6. spec.78
    spec.78 25 October 2018 14: 18
    +5
    China destroyed? The Americans themselves moved production there, since labor is cheaper, so you can make more profit. Capitalism is ordinary. As far as I know, the stub and samsung are made in the same factory, in neighboring workshops. For some reason, their cost is slightly different
  7. Bykov.
    Bykov. 25 October 2018 14: 23
    +4
    They themselves dragged all their production to China. They freaked out on a free labor force, and now they are chasing the Chinese.
    1. Jerk
      Jerk 25 October 2018 14: 48
      +4
      Worse, much worse))) If in China - it is still bearable. There is an object of the application of force, China as a state - you can press, at least in theory. But all the sadder - the economic enemies of the United States - their own transnational companies. From which in the USA there are only headquarters and a small market share - you can’t squeeze them in principle! Create unbearable conditions for them in China - they will move to India, or to Africa, for example - the labor there is cheaper than in the USA, anyway, production is more profitable. To squeeze their assets in the US, so what? Will a Boeing sob over the loss of headquarters in Chicago? Yes, he’s just starting to deliver planes to Iran with a light soul, without fear of sanctions and moving Airbus - but the US government will lose taxes from Boeing smile That whole building goes less than one liner. Husband, how much has the USA pumped money into Ukraine since 2014? Lard 20? The Chinese billionaire, the owner of Alibaba, has only a PERSONAL state of about 50 lard; he can not even allocate funds from the office’s budget for the purchase of all of Ukraine, together with all the skakuas in bulk. And press it there until you lose weight)))
      1. Altona
        Altona 25 October 2018 15: 14
        +1
        Quote: Jerk
        But all the sadder - the economic enemies of the United States - their own transnational companies.

        --------------------
        Fursov, by the way, is interesting about all this tells. And about the elites, and about transnational corporations, about Jewish capital (not about Jews, do not confuse). These supranational superstructures were created for the capitalists to legally violate the laws of their own countries. It probably sounds creepy. Now we recall our Constitution and the fad "on the priority of international laws over domestic" (IMF, WTO, etc.). Bingo! Robbery is legalized by the Constitution itself!
  8. Jerk
    Jerk 25 October 2018 14: 33
    +1
    Well, in general, a number of analysts believe that the logical result of the confrontation between the United States and China will be the transformation of North America into a closed structure. For example:
    http://www.iarex.ru/articles/60574.html
    However, this not only leads to the disappearance of Pax Americana, it leads directly and naturally to the disappearance of the capitalist country of the United States - Marx also quite logically explained what the crisis of overproduction is and how it naturally destroys any capitalist state that does not constantly capture new markets .. .
    In other words, the USA, headlong rushing to the cliff ...
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 25 October 2018 16: 40
      +1
      Quote: Jerk
      Well, in general, a number of analysts believe that the logical result of the confrontation between the United States and China will be the transformation of North America into a closed structure.

      Not one China has cheap slave power, India, Vietnam, Bangladesh for example.
      Quote: Jerk
      this leads in a direct and natural way to the disappearance of the capitalist country of the United States

      The old wet dream of the Bolsheviks outlived them and will outlive you.
      1. Jerk
        Jerk 25 October 2018 16: 53
        +1
        First, tell us who the British Empire survived, what kind of Bolsheviks, along with their dreams? Or vice versa - the Bolsheviks survived this empire, collapsed in full accordance with Marxism?
        1. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher 25 October 2018 19: 04
          -2
          Quote: Jerk
          First, tell us who the British Empire survived, what kind of Bolsheviks, along with their dreams?

          Great Britain lives and thrives as before, unlike the USSR, the fact that it does not have colonies did not affect the state system.
          Quote: Jerk
          The Bolsheviks survived this empire, collapsed in full accordance with Marxism?

          In 1991, the Bolsheviks fled, throwing their party cards cursing their leaders, causing a lot of surprise in Elizabeth the 2nd clearly did not expect such a finale.
          1. Jerk
            Jerk 25 October 2018 20: 09
            +1
            The empire collapsed 50 years earlier - immediately after WWII and even Petty Breach now - the US colony itself, not independent in decision-making, as proved by Blair, who was a slave to the US president laughing
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 25 October 2018 14: 46
    +3
    Everything always comes down to money!
    We, too, have losses from the influx of everything and the Chinese, a lot has been \ is destroyed !!!
    The question is - Where is the money, Zin ??? -
    Now nothing serious can be restored without government intervention !!!
    Let someone think that real business can do it, so Schaub-oo-oo-oo and the plant is big, significant appeared, restored !!!
    And on that top side, what do we hear? There is no money, but are you holding on ??? This really is some kind of di-o-tism.
    I have a very stable feeling, but in the elections, most of the very strong volume .... burned!
    1. Altona
      Altona 25 October 2018 15: 10
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      I have a very stable feeling, but in the elections, most of the very strong volume .... burned!

      ------------------------------
      Most were apparently in love and saw no flaws in their chosen one. Moreover, the chosen one so modestly promoted himself: "Do you really want me to run?" They answered him: "yes", at the very memorable locomotive plant, where almost the entire crowd was from the FSOs. And just 2 weeks later, the "self-nominated candidate" Putin more than collected all the necessary signatures, of course, through the headquarters of United Russia.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 25 October 2018 15: 57
        +2
        Quote: Altona
        do you really want me to run?

        Beautiful! What and how people love, choose, is no longer clear !!! It and in the past terms there were so many questions !!! So now they crawled behind, and even a bunch of new ones subsided from above!
        And by the way, it's all on OUR Humps piled up! Where else?
        What the people thought, and how this process is going on among our people, is a great mystery!
  10. Jolly oldster sailor
    Jolly oldster sailor 25 October 2018 14: 57
    +2
    Quote: Jolly oldster sailor
    It-IT WAS.San, well, it’s better for me to know, agree, I’m not speaking here for Primorye here, it’s better for you to know, so you don’t speak for my city, okay?
    I work at Orenburgneft Oil and Gas Production Department.
  11. Altona
    Altona 25 October 2018 15: 06
    +2
    It was not China that destroyed it, but the American and other capitalists who placed their production in China. How nevertheless a shadow is cleverly cast on the purely capitalist wattle fence.
  12. Snail N9
    Snail N9 25 October 2018 15: 16
    +3
    "China destroyed" ..... the striped ones themselves and "destroyed" -that the Chinese "broke their hands" by dragging their production to China .....
  13. Conductor
    Conductor 25 October 2018 16: 04
    +1
    So let Tramp bite Clintonsha and Obama, for such feints that they brought him to China productively, will again create a commission on anti-American economy.
  14. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 25 October 2018 16: 35
    +1
    China destroys over 3 million jobs in the US

    Too exaggerated. Technological progress is the main reason for job cuts. Well, the unions tried of course, it is easier for the company to close the factory and transfer production to China than to fight with the union for job cuts due to modernization of production.
  15. Special department
    Special department 25 October 2018 16: 56
    +2
    Meanwhile, the United States decided to take up China thoroughly.

    Keep it up Trump! The USA is directly pushing China steadily into our boat ... And we are not opposed.
    With our technology, resources and Chinese hard work, great heights can be achieved in the economy and politics in the world.
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 25 October 2018 19: 09
      -1
      Quote: Special Department
      The USA is directly pushing China steadily into our boat ... And we are not opposed.

      Once the Uighurs got into the boat to the Chinese, now their fate is degradation and extinction. Such a fate will not please you.
  16. faterdom
    faterdom 25 October 2018 17: 18
    +1
    Quote: Jerk
    But sadder - the economic enemies of the United States - their own transnational companies

    Still worse. TNCs and monopolies - this is all the last century. Now the contradictions are already passing through a different trench: financial capital has occupied the throne of mankind, shoving industrial capital from there. And if in the logic of industrial capital, at least production-logistics-sales-utilization, then financial capital is evil in its purest form, its ideal, which everyone aspires to: zero money at all, and all money in the hands of one. Even the destruction of all humanity with one survivor is quite a solution to such a problem.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 25 October 2018 17: 35
      +1
      You are absolutely right: financial capital has learned and created "tools" to make money out of "thin air" - it has no need for production.
  17. Stalker84
    Stalker84 25 October 2018 20: 05
    0
    Hey, who writes about 200 thousand at janitors there ?! What oak tree did it collapse from ?! There are no such sn, except perhaps on the ruble. For those who don’t know how they are paid, we’ll put the official salary of 40, but he will get 20 in his hands, the bureaucrat will put the rest in the feed. Since it is officially listed as a janitor some kind of friend or relative. By the way, the Russians completely squeezed out of this sphere, and there were materials about this in AiF, and more than once. About construction sites, yes, Mordovian compatriots began with construction sites, but they threw this thing away because the pay is low, they pay poorly and often throw. And dumping from the Gaster side played a significant role here. At one time I saw a report about the builders of the Crimean bridge, and there they said that sn on average 35, damn it, if it's true then this is a megapolis. For a penny at current prices. I myself work in Moscow on a shift I can say that for Moscow, if there is no 40 thousand housing, this is pah, nothing at all. It’s something if you live in a province. In Mordovia, salaries and robots are generally a disaster, it seems that the whole of Mordovia in Moscow is shaking. In my area there is no production at all, no, only agricultural companies that need seasonal workers.
  18. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 25 October 2018 20: 51
    +1
    Russia is also in the WTO. I wonder how many jobs we destroyed for the mattresses?
  19. mac789
    mac789 26 October 2018 07: 04
    0
    Another lie about the US trade deficit ... Some very gifted figure blurted out, and the rest behind him like parrots. CONVENTIONAL COUNTRIES EXPORT TO THE USA VARIOUS GOODS, VARIOUS DEGREES OF TECHNOLOGY. USA SAME EXPORTS SUPERMEGA HIGH-TECH TECHNOLOGY SPECIAL VALUABLE GOODS - COLORED CUT TO PAPER. In short, like beads for the natives.
  20. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 26 October 2018 13: 36
    +1
    Oh how ... Apparently, the evil China attacked the mattress without declaring war and stole production. And the leadership of the "largest companies" is the victim here. As I understand it, now the mattress government urgently needs to provide yards of assistance to the owners of these companies. They help us laughing
  21. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 26 October 2018 17: 17
    0
    When global capitalism transferred production to China, the US leadership did not count job losses! And suddenly ... here you are. Woke up!