US accused Russia of creating a space laser in orbit

Russia has created a space laser in orbit, which is currently ready for use, leads Daily Mail Statement by Assistant Secretary of State for Arms Control Ilim Polbet.

About this Polbet warned the relevant structures in the UN. According to her, the Russian military launched into orbit a “combat laser system that is capable of disabling American satellites offline. Whether the official presented any evidence, the publication does not inform.

She stressed that these actions of Moscow are nothing more than the militarization of space.

For the US, these events are another proof that Russian military actions are not consistent with their diplomatic rhetoric, the diplomat said.

Earlier, in August, Polbet stated that the United States was concerned about the “strange behavior of the Russian inspector satellite, which was approaching in orbit with other spacecraft. This behavior "does not correspond to anything that was noted earlier," she added.

While the United States would prefer that outer space remain free from conflicts, they are forced to prepare to overcome the problems that arise there, the State Department spokesman said, noting that the US command is currently actively working to create a national space force.

Recall last summer, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced the launch into space of a maneuvering satellite-inspector. As noted in the military, the device has the capability of maneuvering in orbit to observe and interact with other satellites.

Comments

[bessmertniy]

It seems that the Americans are starting such demarches to justify the placement of their nuclear weapons in space.

[bulvas]

Quote: bessmertniy

It seems that the Americans are starting such demarches to justify the placement of their nuclear weapons in space.

100%


although if you really have our laser - I like

[Runoway]

No "IF", we can't launch a rocket, what space lasers ?! From the category "you started first, that's why we are militarizing"

[vargo]

Now this rocket will now poke in all places? Today, a military satellite was launched from the Plesetsk cosmodrome, and nothing, are you silent here?
As I understand it, if the janitor does not sweep you, you say that "We can't sweep the yards, what space lasers ?!"
Arguments, this is not yours.

[Runoway]

Do not take literally, here you’ll get tired of listing:
-su-57 not finish
-armata there too
-Afar-the whole institute is still breaking their heads
-TU-160 like Humpty Dumpty
-all turntables in Syria without "President"
-Kuzmich does not swim
- Money no matter everything is expensive for us
- "Peresvet" ground-based dark horse is generally not clear what it might, but damn it in orbit we have a "death star"

[Mestny]

It remains to cry about pensions and the people oppressed by the oligarchs.

[Runoway]

Are you happy about that? Every year more and more "fun"

[Shurik70]

Quote: bulvas

if you really have our laser - I like

Satellite inspector is not bad either

[hrych]

Quote: Runoway

we will not finish the su-57

And who is sawing it, it’s not our main one, we have such Su-35 and Su-30, and also Su-34. Su-57 is following its normal course, people are working without you ... Armata is not the topic at all, they just decided to let it into the series, or do you have everything according to pike (rather crucian) orders?
According to AFAR, they do not rack their brains, but did the best PFAR, which in terms of performance characteristics surpass all competitors. And if PFAR is better than AFAR, why troll it here. For the fact that he called the best plane of mankind, of all times and nations, and so on. We are babbling, you old man is a completely undeveloped person. In short, America whines in a panic that our battle station with a blaster is driving in orbit, and some local (perhaps from an uncluttered hedgehog) comrade begins to whine here all the while. In this you are similar to America

[_Ugene_]

come on, call a spade a spade, the su-57 died safely without being born, you can say as much as you like that it wasn’t particularly necessary and what they wanted and put into the series, all this is an attempt to make a good face in a bad game

[hrych]

Why did he die if the pilot combat operation of the fighter began? Even in Khmeimim a couple visited. What are you carrying? What mine? What game? “Product 30” is tested. Already ten flight prototypes are flying. In short, go about your business, and do not bother to judge something that you don’t understand, discuss the pig production there, about the elite varieties of potatoes ...

[_Ugene_]

Even in Khmeimim a couple visited. What are you carrying?

I hope you have better pig and potato

[hrych]

Only in the store I buy.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: _Ugene_

come on, call a spade a spade, the su-57 died safely without being born, you can say as much as you like that it wasn’t particularly necessary and what they wanted and put into the series, all this is an attempt to make a good face in a bad game

Rumors of death are greatly exaggerated, especially in foreign media.

[Runoway]

Quote: hrych

Quote: Runoway

we will not finish the su-57

According to AFAR, they do not rack their brains, but did the best PFAR, which in terms of performance characteristics surpass all competitors. And if PFAR is better than AFAR, why troll it here. For the fact that he called the best plane of mankind, of all times and nations, and so forth. We are babbling, you old man is a completely undeveloped person.

What SU-35,30,34 invincible remember by the 30th years, when there will be around NATO with a modified F-35 and we with 12 SU-57, at least read to what extent the Hornet fleet has been modernized and what is ours
About PFAR where infa? From the Internet? Can you indicate how many units are installed? Or at least where is the sample? I know about the situation with production, and there, alas, as here it is customary to call "everything is lost", "liberalism"
TU-160 did not call, but meant "and all the royal cavalry and all the king's men, they cannot assemble a hunk-dumping"
Even here, freedom of speech, trying to persuade the minuses to the reference opinion "all the same, we are the best and we will defeat everyone," adults, but you believe in fairy tales about lasers, they have gone not far

[yehat]

soon we’re not going to do what the planes are, we will beg China to sell us a pair of resistors, because we don’t do anything. Oh yes, we will also ask for rice, if agricultural rates are supported at such a pace.
And we will ask Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan not to turn off the light and heat, because the workers from these countries remained in our housing and communal services.
And we will ask the Germans to buy gas at least for some reason, because this is the only source of income in the conditions of subsistence farming.

We are laughing at the spratostan, and who will we become soon? Will Great Karasestan?

[anykin]

Quote: yehat

soon we

...
Oh sorry for you. Do you want to move to Russia?

[Tersky]

Quote: yehat

soon we’re not going to do what the planes are, we will beg China to sell us a pair of resistors, because we don’t do anything.

Obviously problems with the "processor" due to burnt resistors, go here, https://www.radioelementy.ru/brands/, they will select the right

Quote: yehat

Oh yes, we will also ask for rice, if agricultural rates are supported at such a pace.

And garlic and onions ...

The Russian Federation is one of the key exporters of mid-grain rice. The Russian Federation has become the main supplier of grain to the countries of the Middle East and the CIS. There is also a fairly high demand for EU rice, Russian Far East and North Africa.
According to official IGC data, grain shipments for export from Russia in the first 8 months of 2017 reached about 109 thousand tons (the lowest annual rate) due to a decrease in shipments to the Middle East, namely to Turkey, due to the difficult political situation between two countries. In general, in 2017, export shipments from the Russian Federation may amount to 170 thousand tons compared to 192 thousand tons a year earlier, however, according to experts' forecasts, already in 2018 the indicated indicator may increase.

Quote: yehat

And Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan we will ask not to turn off the light and heat,

They forgot about water and sewage, and the Internet ...

Quote: yehat

And we will ask the Germans to buy gas at least for some reason, because this is the only source of income in the conditions of subsistence farming.

Under the conditions of subsistence farming, methane is produced, well, if the Germans do not have enough methane, they will turn to you, you produce it nemeryanno. And the Germans buy propane from us, in order to then resell it to other EU countries. So who will persuade whom?

[hrych]

Quote: Runoway

What SU-35,30,34 invincible remember by the 30th years, when there will be around NATO with a modified F-35 and we with 12 SU-57, at least read to what extent the Hornet fleet has been modernized and what is ours

Son, the F-35 in terms of performance characteristics is very frail and our falcons are out of place, there is only hope for imaginary invisibility, and Hornet has always been a machine too frail for as long as the base of the wing, and any deck is weak in battle. I will give you the data, and you yourself think with your head. The Su-35 has a maximum speed of Mach 2,25, a practical ceiling of 20 thousand meters, a combat radius of 1000 km, a controlled thrust vector, an unbeatable PFAR Irbis with a detection range of 400 km. A Hornet, respectively, Mach 1,8, 15 thousand meters, 722 km, there is no thrust vector. F-35 max speed of Mach 1,6, ceiling 18 thousand, combat radius 1000. And we also take into service the KS-172 air-to-air missile with a range of 400 km (maximum detection of Irbis), and the R missile has long been in service -37 with a range of more than 300 km, but the American AIM-120 AMRAAM in the best modification has a range of 180 km.

Quote: Runoway

About PFAR where infa? From the Internet? Can indicate on how many units are installed?

PFAR Barrier on all MiG-31, PFAR Irbis on all Su-35, PFAR Bars on all Su-30

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Runoway

Quote: hrych

Quote: Runoway

we will not finish the su-57

According to AFAR, they do not rack their brains, but did the best PFAR, which in terms of performance characteristics surpass all competitors. And if PFAR is better than AFAR, why troll it here. For the fact that he called the best plane of mankind, of all times and nations, and so forth. We are babbling, you old man is a completely undeveloped person.

What SU-35,30,34 invincible remember by the 30th years, when there will be around NATO with a modified F-35 and we with 12 SU-57, at least read to what extent the Hornet fleet has been modernized and what is ours
About PFAR where infa? From the Internet? Can you indicate how many units are installed? Or at least where is the sample? I know about the situation with production, and there, alas, as here it is customary to call "everything is lost", "liberalism"
TU-160 did not call, but meant "and all the royal cavalry and all the king's men, they cannot assemble a hunk-dumping"
Even here, freedom of speech, trying to persuade the minuses to the reference opinion "all the same, we are the best and we will defeat everyone," adults, but you believe in fairy tales about lasers, they have gone not far

Chef, it’s all gone, they are plucking, the client is leaving.

[Tarhan]

Su-57 goes its own way

Why puff up. Handing out excuses. 10-15 years, the propaganda screamed Su-57, Armata, Altair. And there is nothing, and not because it is expensive, and not pulled. There are no corresponding engines, electronics, stealth technologies
When they started to design, they hoped for Western components, like the Superjet. But after 2014, sanctions have nothing to fill gliders and hulls with, and they have refused mass production.
Vice Prime Minister Borisov clearly stated - the Su-57, Armata, Altair will not go into the series, but here some still continue to puff their cheeks.

[hrych]

Well, you are wise beyond your years

Quote: Tarkhan

there is nothing to fill gliders and hulls with, so they abandoned mass production

Filling with dung?

[Alstorm]

Not everything is as smooth as we would like. But this still does not mean that in all sectors of industry such difficulties.
In addition, any country working with such technologies will face similar difficulties. It is important whether we can overcome them.

And as an example, remember about the difficulties with the American F-35, Falcon rockets and much more. If this is the way to approach the issue, then America is a banana republic as a whole, unable to create anything. But this is not so. Difficulties in some issues do not interfere with their success in others.
So it is with us.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Runoway

Do not take literally, here you’ll get tired of listing:
-su-57 not finish
-armata there too
-Afar-the whole institute is still breaking their heads
-TU-160 like Humpty Dumpty
-all turntables in Syria without "President"
-Kuzmich does not swim
- Money no matter everything is expensive for us
- "Peresvet" ground-based dark horse is generally not clear what it might, but damn it in orbit we have a "death star"

Stop crying, whining and mumbling. This is for you, janitors, everything is simple: the broom broke, went and took a new one from the chief. And in matters of creating the best technology in the world, everything is much more complicated. But we can handle it. Do not worry.
I don’t understand one thing. Why do you always write here "we", "with us"? You Americans (British, Jews, Ukrainians, etc.) have nothing to do with the SU-57. We, Russians, will finish it ("finish"). And you Americans will watch with envy. It was we, the Russians, who launched a satellite with a combat laser into space. And you Americans will watch with envy.
PS There are currently no flags in the comments, so you have to determine the citizenship of the country by the nature of the comment. Your comment on the comment of the Russian person does not pull in any way. Therefore, such a conclusion.

[yehat]

you went too far with nationalism.
maybe you can even say that we are Russian su57s in every gateway and we make a real thump, and the Scots, Irish, French, Germans, Ukrainians watch Jews with envy only? What kind of nonsense? Russians have long been no longer nationality, but belonging to concepts of life in the Russian world, because there are several dozen Russian nationalities
the same Jews are those that are russier (rusher, rusher?) most of the "Russians".

[Tersky]

Quote: yehat

What kind of nonsense? Russians have long been no longer nationality, but belonging to concepts of life in the Russian world, because there are several dozen Russian nationalities

That's really nonsense ...

[Runoway]

Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

We, the Russians, will finish it ("finish").

"Only in our country, when they ask who first flew into space, it is not Gagarin who proudly answers, but WE" ©
-It was "YOU" that sent Oleg Peshkov's su-24 without fighter cover on a combat mission
-It was "YOU" who put the S-300 ATS, only after the Jews covered themselves with the plane
-It was "You" that sent the helicopters to the hot spot without "President C" and how many units and lives were lost
- Is it "YOU" who drove Kuznetsov across half the world to show off "we still can" and sank two planes, invaluable experience in testing the cable?
-Is it "YOU" who came to sort the militants into the SAR from the moderates, but you allow the Americans to save the rest, for this the guys died?
.........
You can continue indefinitely, but you don't need to talk about the laser, they didn't launch it, it's just a "test tube for entering Iraq"
They brought it up to the point that any mention of pension, gasoline on the lunar price tags and oligarchs is considered a nagging and strongly condemned, well, be strong, then you can tighten the nuts

[MKPU-115]

Delay, caring you are our foreigner. Russian drum

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Runoway

Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

We, the Russians, will finish it ("finish").

"Only in our country, when they ask who first flew into space, it is not Gagarin who proudly answers, but WE" ©
-It was "YOU" who sent Oleg Peshkov's su-24 without cover ...

Julia, pretending to be her own, but the Russophobian darling still gave out an American gut. And after this comment, all masks are reset. Enemy, outspoken convinced enemy. Why did you come to our unfriendly site? To fight informationally? Well, then a simple Russian joke about the information war with the Americans.

2025 year. USA. The smoking ruins of Washington. The end of the war. Dull columns of American prisoners wander the gloomy streets. Two tankers are sitting on the armor of a Russian tank, looking at the endless columns of prisoners and talking: "And yet, Kolyan, no matter what you say, we lost the information war ..."

[In100gram]

Quote: Runoway

but damn we have a "death star" in orbit

And who told you about this, Americans? They say a lot of things, but they do not show evidence, although they "have" it. And the fact that not everything is brought to mind, so we are still modernizing the AK and T-72. And now everything is bad? The combination of price and quality for solving specific problems is the cornerstone.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Runoway

-su-57 not finish

Since the 11th year as you spoke, "sawing" the Su-57. And now take a look at how many have been sawing the Raptor, and how many have already been sawing the F-35, which gives new surprises for a long time.

Quote: Runoway

armata there too

Seriously? Sorry, but who has a similar platform in the world? I’m talking about the platform, not the T-14. At the same time, the T-14 was shown in the 15 year, this year or at the beginning of the next batch for military tests, both the T-14 and the T-15 will leave for the troops. At the same time, this platform includes 26! varieties of different equipment. This is so that it dawns on you what kind of project it is.

Quote: Runoway

-Afar-the whole institute is still breaking their heads

AFAR Squirrel is ALREADY standing at SU-57, while ROFAR has been undergoing work for several years.

Quote: Runoway

TU-160 as Humpty Dumpty

Tu-160m1 is being completed, a new engine for TU-160М2 is already being tested.

Tu-160M2 was transferred to flight tests

Quote: Runoway

-all turntables in Syria without "President"

Since 2010, all Russian helicopters operating in "hot spots" have been mandatorily equipped with President-S complexes.

Quote: Runoway

"Peresvet" ground dark horse is generally unclear what it can, but damn it in orbit we have a "death star"

Provide you with all the secret documentation on new types of weapons, dear?

[Runoway]

Quote: NEXUS

AFAR Squirrel is ALREADY standing on SU-57, while for several years work has been ongoing on ROFAR

Alas, nothing concrete, as always one continuous expectation, it’s sad everything is in fact

Quote: NEXUS

Tu-160m1 finish, the new engine for TU-160M2 is already being tested

Glider with 0 still not done

What is the secret information where KREP when:

November 26, 2015 Mi-8 AMTSh-V Multi-purpose helicopter RF-95601/252 Destroyed by FSA militants in the province of Latakia during a search and rescue operation at the crash site of a Su-24M.

July 8, 2016 Mi-35M Multi-purpose helicopter Shot down by militants near Palmyra.
August 1, 2016 Mi-8 AMTSh Multi-purpose helicopter RF-95585/212 Yellow Shot down by militants in the province of Idlib.
November 3, 2016 Mi-35M Multi-purpose helicopter Destroyed by ATGM militants in Homs province.
December 31, 2017 Mi-24 Multi-purpose helicopter Destroyed by ATGM militants in Homs province.
You are right a lot of work with our defense industry, a lot of premature promising announcements, when the product is still far from mass production, and then once the laser is in orbit, and yet people believe

[Jacks]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfshWJUWv3U

[feokot1982]

Today the Union with Plesetsk flew away if ...

[yehat]

we cannot get involved in a space race. it doesn’t matter if we have rockets or not - we cannot even make puff and armature in sane quantities. All we can do is give the dough to the Rotenbergs and Gazprom on the bridge to Sakhalin and the power of Siberia, and drain the remainder to Chubais.

[lazy]

the power of siberia is bad and the north stream-2 is good?

[yehat]

the northern stream has completely different payback parameters, much more profitable.
the only plus power of Siberia is the diversification of consumers.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Runoway

No "IF", we can't launch a rocket, what space lasers ?! From the category "you started first, that's why we are militarizing"

Can't you launch a rocket?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Runoway

No "IF", we can't launch a rocket, what kind of space lasers ?!

If you do not drill holes and do not need to put any sensors on the lazar, then everything will go fine ...

[g1washntwn]

There is a high probability that the X-37 from Boeing just does not test at all

longevity of electronics in various temperature conditions in outer space

and the reliability of the mechanisms of nuclear devices under conditions of long space stay. To remove it from orbit with some kind of "garbage", but look into the compartment ...

[alexmach]

although if you really have our laser - I like

Really nice.

[Pasha]

would rather decide
then a gas station
then the laser is in orbit ...
or this is a leap in the development of the Russian Federation, from Obama to Trump. And what changes ...

[Mestny]

Yes, everything is fine.
In the discussion we were already excitedly explained that all this is not true. Even listing is tired.

[Machito]

The Americans have already announced their intention to place nuclear weapons in orbit. As VVP said: "The loudest shouts are:" Stop the thief! "Those who have a stigma in the gun themselves." I am sure that the United States and the Russian Federation, and possibly China, are developing laser weapons for space weapons. These are the realities of Cold War 2.0.

[g1washntwn]

"On the basis of new physical principles" it is difficult to pull by the ears to strike weapons and, moreover, nuclear weapons in space. For the militarization of space, the United States simply acts by the same patterns as on Earth. Attempts to jump out of the INF Treaty / START from the same opera, not a single changed note.

[Non liberoid Russian]

nobody canceled anti-satellite missiles

[Sergey Medvedev]

Space laser! Killer companion! The Death Star! Everything is Russian! It would be nice if that were true.

[Russian officer]

Since 1974 of the year. KB Nidelman.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Russian officer

Since 1974 of the year. KB Nidelman.

Nudelman. Alexander Emmanuilovich Nudelman.

[Ustant]

Again the great Russian scientist

Quote: sergo1914

Nudelman. Alexander Emmanuilovich Nudelman

[Dedrusav]

For the uneducated - a Soviet scientist.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Ustant

Again the great Russian scientist

Quote: sergo1914

Nudelman. Alexander Emmanuilovich Nudelman

Constructor The brilliant organizer.
PS I worked there after college for seven years
PPS You would try it in his face to say ...

[Non liberoid Russian]

that you carry a caliper with you, do you measure skulls for compliance with race?

[MKPU-115]

Well, certainly not Israeli, he lived and worked in the USSR.

[denart50]

"The United States Would Prefer Outer Space to Remain Conflict-Free"...

Hmm ... Well, put away your own shuttle snuffbox, flying for how long? 400 days? With incomprehensible features ...
Your X-37 Soviets is unnerving ... oh, the Russian people ...

[aszzz888]

Polbet said the United States is concerned about the "strange behavior of the Russian inspector satellite," which was approaching in orbit with other spacecraft.

... and the sun began to shine brighter ....

[vargo]

She needs to write our capacious word of 3 letters with a laser while sunbathing on the beach: D And below in small letters "You are lying! We have no lasers!"

[Russian officer]

Kapets we direct horror. But what about the country-gas station with a torn economy?

[Cycle boss]

Laser?! Glanass and I don’t launch satellites normally .. and here lasers .. although if we burn their gps satellites with lasers, then our glonass will be out of competition))

[mvg]

will be out of competition))

But what about Gallileo and the Chinese Beidou?

[Mestny]

Glonass doesn't work?
Or what? How to understand this - normal satellites do not launch?

[Observer2014]

US accused Russia of creating a space laser in orbit

Yeah. So be afraid. We have not yet used a super anti-space weapon. "Bolt-screw" is called. It will sweep away everything from orbit. It’s true that only once every 200 years it will work, because it will not be able to fly because of a bunch of these screws with bolts in orbit

[K-50]

Russia has created a space laser in orbit, which is currently ready for use

There is? Well and good !!!
And we also have Cheburashka.

[thinker]

Assistant Secretary of State for Arms Control, Verification, and Verification of Ilim Agreements Poblet (Yleem Poblete)

[Vard]

Now they will not be able to place anything in orbit ... Those who got up earlier have slippers ... They made a hole ... and understand that the satellite stopped working ...

[Simon]

Quote: Runoway

No "IF", we can't launch a rocket, what space lasers ?! From the category "you started first, that's why we are militarizing"

Ah what! Is the laser a weapon of militarization? It seems to me that this is a weapon of defense, that is, they can serve to destroy enemy warheads that can be aimed from outer space to our territories, but for now it can be used to eliminate space debris.

[HMR333]

no, this is the reason for the pseudo refutation of the fact that they are screaming that they will place nuclear missiles in space! Ukrainians advised this, say that the lasers into space from the Donbass threw each casmanaut a laser pointer)))

[501 Legion]

any placement of weapons in outer space should immediately mean the destruction of such an object. the problem is that you can’t distinguish a regular satellite from a combat satellite. but space should not be considered someone else's territory.

[Izotovp]

And we do not have a combat satellite, but a satellite inspector. Any satellite can peacefully inspect: where are you going, there are seeds?

[Simon]

Quote: denart50

"The United States Would Prefer Outer Space to Remain Conflict-Free"...

Hmm ... Well, put away your own shuttle snuffbox, flying for how long? 400 days? With incomprehensible features ...
Your X-37 Soviets is unnerving ... oh, the Russian people ...

So, our laser will help them with this! Just try.

[Ezekiel 25-17]

It's time to release the MiG 41 there.

[rocket757]

This is from what series of Bondiana ??? Why is it that someone’s assistant has been revised?
However, and if we really do, it will be cool! However, this is still fantastic, so everything with tip-top imagination in a public access is tip-top! They would go to the scriptwriters for Hollywood ... however, can he really be soaped there?

[Mestny]

There is nothing particularly fantastic here. On the contrary - ideal conditions for the use of a laser.

[rocket757]

Quote: Mestny

ideal conditions for the use of a laser.

No question, dust, fog, clouds are not there and the cooling is certainly good!
Just the laser power and the power of the power plant, the dependence is direct, direct!
And without a lot of power, this laser only let the sun bunnies. By the way, a powerful power plant is the size, weight and sophisticated automation system and others, other problems of any unattended equipment.
No, they didn’t show, they didn’t prove that at least someone has this! The boom of evidence, the boom to discuss, but for now it's just a fantasy or nonsense, at someone it seems!

[Cananecat]

The case when the SDI program was invented by some, but implemented by others ...

[askort154]

Sergey Medvedev ....Space laser! Killer companion! The Death Star! Everything is Russian! It would be nice if that were true.

Are you relative

[KCA]

Why block lasers, if the cannon-based Satellites Fighter-1 was successfully tested in space back in the 70s?

[true_rover]

Probably this laser was tested on ukrohokhlyatsk border guards, someone shines in his eyes all the time

[TAMBU]

hope it's true

[Jerk]

"Accused" And on what basis? Is this somehow forbidden?

[faterdom]

It's not cosmic. This is a simple conventional laser. The technician forgot, he lit up when the bolts in the satellite tightened ... Musk started Tesla, so the "space electric car" came out?

[naidas]

- ... and also Russia thwarted the grand opening of the Wedding Palace. Then, in the ruins of a chapel ...

[MKPU-115]

What is your evidence? Oh yes, the states and the Britons are gentlemen; the whole world believes in them.