Flash Roslyakov. What is on it?

The investigation into the terrible tragedy in Kerch. In this case, information from the investigation is published, for obvious reasons, metered, although some media rush to rush forward and announce “their versions” of what happened.

Investigators reported the discovery of Vladislav Roslyakov (namely, he is being held as the main suspect in the case), who committed suicide after a bloody massacre of his peers and teachers at the Kerch Polytechnic College, a flash drive with information shedding some light on this matter. So, it is stated that Roslyakov downloaded books on pyrotechnics and chemistry to a flash drive. Wherein RIA News, citing the statement of the investigating officer, reports that this is a book that can be found in the public domain.

From the material:

Roslyakov did not have materials on the detected flash drive that could be used to assemble an explosive device.
It is added that it is impossible to assemble an explosive device for those materials about pyrotechnics that are detected on a digital storage device.

Earlier in the press materials it was stated that Roslyakov allegedly kept “hundreds of materials on how to assemble an IED (improvised explosive device.” This information was officially refuted) on the flash drive.

Recall that Roslyakov placed in the college building two explosive devices, one of which was activated remotely. Another after the denouement of the bloody drama was neutralized by the police.

It was also previously reported that Roslyakov allegedly could fill the IED with the contents of ammunition from the times of the Second World War, which he found on the ground fighting for Kerch. The answer to this question could be the examination of the explosive used by the killer. This examination is carried out.

Comments

[Examenatornick]

logically, then the metal detector should have been with him, or he was blindly looking for ammunition.

[Kerensky]

Or was he blindly looking for ammunition.

As a practitioner I will say: near Rzhev we found glades (!!) of mortar mines.
The local copper belts are cut down with axes. The work is not finished yet.
Of course reported.

[PalBor]

Why, is present. On "Echo of Moscow", for example. But in general, fired without the right to wear a uniform and awards as an example ... Not comme il faut.

[Vita vko]

Quote: PalBor

dismissed without the right to wear a uniform and awards as an example ... Not comme il faut

If the current honored employees allowed such a tragedy, then there are much more questions for them than for the one who was fired. This is logical. Unfortunately, our officials of any rank fundamentally do not like alternative opinions, in every way oppressing the people who dare to them, as a result of which degradation and corruption are taking place.

[PalBor]

This is true, alas. But what does this have to do with the "political prostitute" Gudkov?

[Vita vko]

Quote: PalBor

But what does this have to do with the "political prostitute" Gudkov?

So, it’s not about the policy “it’s a problem if the shoemaker starts the pies and the pastry manages the boots”.
His publication contains quite professional questions, to which the investigation is in no hurry to answer. But "as if from a cornucopia" legislative initiatives are pouring in, not supported by either facts or serious research. Everything is done for emotion and for show. Like a tragedy happened, passed the law and a couple of amendments and calmed down. We are waiting for the next one, just as the traffic police accident happened put a sign, several accidents warning. And to foresee in advance when designing this already on the basis of whom God will send.

[PalBor]

So the investigation is not finished. That everything is not just, even I, stupid, guess. But there are no official conclusions yet. We'll see.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Vita VKO

Quote: PalBor

But what does this have to do with the "political prostitute" Gudkov?

So, it’s not about the policy “it’s a problem if the shoemaker starts the pies and the pastry manages the boots”.
In his publication, quite professional questions on which the investigation is in no hurry to answer.

For many years I watched with indignation how the bastard "worked" in the State Duma, and wondered why they would not drive him with a nasty broom of deputies. There, many are the same as he is, but this one has crossed all the boundaries of what is permitted. And finally, he became a former deputy, a former colonel. But he still continues to spew out only nasty things. With what fright should the investigation hurry up to answer his disgusting questions ?! The investigation should generally be silent and not inform anyone at this stage of the investigation.

Quote: Vita VKO

... In his publication, quite professional issues ...

At this stage of the investigation, bored onlookers do not and cannot have professional questions. Any question to the investigation now is amateurish. Too little information for the masses to be able to generalize, analyze, draw conclusions.

Quote: Vita VKO

But "as if from a cornucopia" legislative initiatives are pouring in, not supported by either facts or serious research. Everything is done for emotion and for show. Like a tragedy happened, passed the law and a couple of amendments and calmed down.

Here I agree with you. Amateurs who have climbed into power continue to be amateurs. Added to this is some stupidity, and this is how legislative initiatives appear like "to every school, college and university for the armed division of the Russian Guard".

[Maverick1812]

One hundred percent hit in the "official version" ..... 5.45 bullet blows off half of the head, a 12-gauge grape shot to the head ... no head if it is not the head of a large animal!

[Examenatornick]

in the school toilet, you can easily remain unnoticed, just close from the inside of one of the cubicles. Especially since everything is in the classroom.

[Comrade Beria]

Quote: Vita VKO

Ex-State Duma deputy, colonel of the reserve of the FSB of Russia Gennady Gudkov

Every family has its black sheep. Weather vane, in a word.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Comrade Beria

Quote: Vita VKO

Ex-State Duma deputy, colonel of the reserve of the FSB of Russia Gennady Gudkov

Every family has its black sheep. Weather vane, in a word.

For sure, who shouldn't go to England, otherwise another poisoned "Novichok" will be added. The British, go, all eyes have overlooked - is not the desired one going ...

[pv1005]

Quote: Vita VKO

Another oddity. This opinion was published on Kazakhstani resources, on Russian it is absent for unknown reasons ..

This is a conspiracy of special services.

[Oden280]

Gudkov bastard is over (admin does not miss his real name). In trouble, trying to do PR. All his arguments are sucked from the finger.

[Svetlana]

Here in Russian: http://www.online812.ru/2018/10/22/001/

[Romka47]

There were terrible battles in my native village, I didn’t dig myself, but Daddy “dug” metal detectors from them all my childhood, and they dug like this: they come to the place of battles (the main battles went a little south of the village), find the line of trenches ( they are visible) then they walk along the trench, they already see the dugout where it was or something else, and there first burrow vertically down, then I remove the layers from the walls. That's how they found everything. Even now, those trenches are visible and you can see where, say, the artillery was stationed. In short, I am alone without experience and equipment, I think that in one day I can dig up several art shells (I am silent about German grenades and mines) with only one shovel.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Romka47

... in short, I without experience and one equipment, I think that in one day I can dig a few artillery shells (I say nothing about German grenades and mines) with only one shovel.

That's why you think so, because without experience.
But I hope that although you are without experience, but with brains. Therefore, I propose to think: can a person without experience dig up ammunition lying in the ground for more than 70 years and safely extract explosives for further reliable use?

[Oden280]

In Crimea, children have been digging since childhood. So what experience do they have. And in extracting the same TNT from the ammunition, there is nothing tricky or complicated.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Oden280

In Crimea, children have been digging since childhood. So what experience do they have. And in extracting the same TNT from the ammunition, there is nothing tricky or complicated.

You write yourself, you don’t understand what ... I, too, as a child, dug up a lot of things left over from the war. But that’s why I lived to see gray hair, because the kid didn’t take apart the old shells. Those who disassembled, moved to live in a cemetery.

[Oden280]

Go to the flea markets in St. Petersburg, there you will see such diggers and pickers in droves. Maybe there are such markets in other cities, I just don’t know.

[Romka47]

"But I hope that although you are without experience, but with brains. Therefore, I propose to think: can a person without experience dig up ammunition that has been in the ground for more than 70 years and safely extract explosives for further reliable use?" Thank you, but that's why I haven't even dug even once. I'll dig out 100% of the question or not. I will tell you about how they extract it "safely" in our village: My classmate suffered an explosion in packages at school, he took potassium permanganate somewhere without any problems, and only changed the potassium permanganate for the same from another one turned on explosives. He says: he came to change potassium permanganate for TOL, that dude tells him, right now he hasn't melted it yet. To the question "how do you melt," he said, let's go show: oil painting: there is a large anti-tank mine on the gas stove, the burners are burning !!! (in home!!!!) . Well, he warmed up niche, changed. Both are still alive.

[Vol4ara]

Everything necessary to assemble IEDs is available for sale, to collect is not a problem, there are plenty of literature and video tests on the Internet and YouTube. I even thought as a child mb to collect, to blow some stump in the forest, but the fear of living with torn hands turned out to be stronger, too unstable initiating

[Confectioner]

It is very interesting where the thread of investigation regarding the explosive device will lead. For some reason, I can’t believe what he did it himself. Apparently judging by the damaging elements and the strength of the explosion, everything was done there correctly, with a calculation.

[igorbrsv]

But the detonator itself could do with remote detonation.

[Cetron]

Once, a whole box of detonators was taken from the boys, when a mess and a change of power, from the warehouses they drag everything that is possible and impossible.

[vladcub]

Kanevsky's cycle: "The investigation was conducted" is about "Krasnodar shorty": in 1972 he made a homemade explosive and left it in a trolleybus. And then it was more difficult to get the necessary literature. Now it is much easier with this. It is known that he went to Kharkov, and with whom did he communicate there, and at home with whom did he communicate?

[pv1005]

Quote: Confectioner

Apparently judging by the damaging elements and the strength of the explosion, everything was done there correctly, with a calculation.

Are you an expert bomb expert? Have you already been familiarized with the case file?

[Oden280]

If only everything was done correctly. with calculation. then the whole dining room would lie there. And so slag, something like that, at an amateurish level. I read books like "Anarchist's Cookbook".

[bessmertniy]

No flash drive can convey what was in the head of this bastard. Now it’s more important to make it similar to what happened in Kerch would be more simply impossible.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: bessmertniy

No flash drive can convey what was in the head of this bastard. Now it’s more important to make it similar to what happened in Kerch would be more simply impossible.

That is, you are against all that is bad and for all that is good. That is right. If everyone was for everything good, then there would simply be no bad thing!

[Graz]

the organization is standing there, not a kid 18 years old, let people not hang noodles on their ears

[NordUral]

But this version is constantly taking us away.

[New Year day]

it turns out to be somewhat strange - before the terrorist attack at home I burned all my personal photos, cleaned my laptop, and took a USB flash drive with me?
Be that as it may, I suppose the group worked. and Roslyaklv was like a zitz ​​chairman.

[Detective]

Exclusively for you, Sylvester, I would like to remind you that the zits - the chairman for Ilf and Petrov exclusively sat for others for a small fraction ... He was out of business, did not shoot from a gun and did not lay mines!

[New Year day]

Quote: Detective

Exclusively for you, Sylvester,

I remember - I remember reading.

Quote: Detective

He himself was out of business, did not shoot from a gun and did not lay mines!

what shot is indisputable. The questions are in his rate of fire and explosive knowledge.
Self-taught genius? Do you obviously believe yourself?

[Examenatornick]

We urgently need to hiccup and block the channel through which the explosives came, although we can also say about ammunition, but those who are not in the tank understand everything. It is not possible to completely destroy all traces. If there is a crime, there is always a trace.

[Ross_ulair]

Quote: Examenatornick

urgently need to hiccup and block the channel through which the explosives arrived

And you can do it yourself if you delve deeply in search of recipes.
I’m silent about gunpowder ...

[Kerensky]

examination of the explosive used by the killer. This examination is underway.

Oh, don't do innocence on your face!
A marker is introduced into each explosive of industrial production, which tells which plant and when this explosive was produced.
If this is a home-made explosive, then it scatters in pieces and is full of impurities. Found a piece, half bit off, weighed, titrated.
Do not believe in the professionalism of local guys from the ECC?

[New Year day]

Quote: Kerensky

titrated.

I’ll say a terrible thing, I think that everyone has already titrated and now they are breaking the head, what should I do?
If there is a connection arrow with Ukraine. and she is, then what to do next? Recognize Ukrainian banderlog partners in explosions? And then what to do with Ukriana as a state?

[lis-ik]

Quote: Silvestr

Quote: Kerensky

titrated.

I’ll say a terrible thing, I think that everyone has already titrated and now they are breaking the head, what should I do?
If there is a connection arrow with Ukraine. and she is, then what to do next? Recognize Ukrainian banderlog partners in explosions? And then what to do with Ukriana as a state?

All that you said is obvious. They will never be able to recognize this, because they will get a stalemate, they will have to give an answer, and the gut is thin!

[Altona]

Quote: Silvestr

If there is a connection arrow with Ukraine. and she is, then what to do next? Recognize Ukrainian banderlog partners in explosions? And then what to do with Ukriana as a state?

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There is such a nuance Sylvester that Kerch is supposed to be a super-duper protected city. The Crimean Bridge also comes there. And then such an event. Who is guilty? SBU? FSB? Rosgvardia? Unclear. It turns out that the terrible "Westerner" student Roslyakov is to blame - he played enough in GTA, the girl threw it off, a closed character, an introverted nature, addicted to guns. Everything.

[New Year day]

Quote: Altona

There is such a nuance of Sylvester that Kerch is supposed to be a super-duper protected city

I completely agree, but I would like to expand - not just Kerch, but CRIMEA!

Quote: Altona

It turns out that the terrible "Westerner" student Roslyakov is to blame - he played enough in GTA, the girl threw it off, a closed character, an introverted nature, addicted to guns.

exactly. It’s not for planting reposts, here you need to think with your head, digging the earth, but it does not work. Sea Sun. grapes!

Quote: Altona

Who's guilty? SBU? FSB? Rosguard?

one who should be working

[askort154]

Graz ....the organization is standing there, and not a kid of 18 years old, let people not hang noodles on their ears.

And who is hanging? MEDIA ! The investigation has not yet ended, but the conspiracy theorists are the sea.

[Detective]

Quote: askort154

And who is hanging? MEDIA ! The investigation has not yet ended, but the conspiracy theorists are the sea.

Yes, it's not that conspiracy theorists here seem to people already know everything and who is to blame and what to do! This topic is not discussed here for the first time, and the comments are to blame for everything about teachers before the Russian authorities! It is interesting how people do not even take the trouble to think that Roslyakov grew up under the Ukrainian government and that it was under this government that a sectarian gadyushnik was made from Crimea! But they hardly talk about it! Those who were in Crimea before 2014 can confirm that on the streets of Crimean cities sectarians stood with their literature on all a little bit through streets and were especially distinguished by harassing people, these same Jehovah's Witnesses banned in Russia! Naturally, now this sect is also prohibited in Crimea, but the "witnesses" have not disappeared anywhere! This is what our special services should pay close attention to. To prohibit this half of the matter, we must continue to control the situation in this environment. The sect is under the auspices of the US government and other globalist structures. The sect opposes itself to the state by prohibiting blood transfusions, if necessary, even to children, serving in the army and participating in elections ... And one more interesting point, in the sect there is a strict prohibition on communication even with close relatives and family members who are not members of the sect! Parents do not communicate with children, children do not communicate with grandparents ... So draw conclusions about this family. And yet, before committing this terrible crime, Roslyakov burned the Bible.

[vladcub]

Regarding the Jehovah's Witnesses, officially they are not there, but not officially they are here. We have 2 of their preachers living down the street, I know them very well, when the sect was banned and they disappeared somewhere, and now they walk here again and say something

[Duck]

"Earlier in the press materials it was stated that on the Roslyakov flash drive .." - this is again the omniscient reptilian hunters from Ren-TV said. How did they get it already.

[Wilderness]

Some kind of muddy presentation of this event (not official messages - but leaking through the media with a "yellow" reputation). And some "attraction" and illogical details. Focusing on some points (and completely ignoring others). Presence of certain "dogmas" from the very beginning. And in general, the mistrust of the official, which has developed recently. They suggest that Roslyakov's guilt has not yet been proven at all.

[Altona]

Quote: Wilderness

Presence of certain "dogmas" from the very beginning. And in general, the mistrust of the official, which has developed recently. They suggest that Roslyakov's guilt has not yet been proven at all.

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Yesterday they played me down cheerfully, today you scratch your turnips. Already the moderator ran to me in PM, imposed two comments for nothing, accused me of trolling. Do not scratch this topic, there are too many questions. The event is presented from such a crooked angle. No interviews with casualties, no other recordings. A very strange event. Much like the assassination of President Kennedy by Lee Harvey Oswald. Found a loner, that's it, forget it. As well as in the Saudi consulate, 15 "singles" came and tortured the journalist Hajogi. Everything. Today they found a flash drive, tomorrow they will find something else, a week has already passed. Every day a new piece of evidence is issued. This is hype, not news.

[Wilderness]

Minus those who do not fit the surrounding reality into fabulous scenery. They told them once - the boy is drunk, drank more than he weighs - you have to believe.

[Altona]

Quote: Olegater

Yes, anything !!!!!!

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Yes, let them find what they want. Winter will come, guess his down jacket to search. Bespontovy news.

[K-36]

It seems to me that this flash drive is only suitable for increasing the page weight of a criminal case. Associated ore, so to speak.
His phone should be interrogated "with passion"! He will tell everything. Who did I call when I called. And then to develop telephone contacts with might and main. However, I suppose a hundred detectives know all this without me and are already working in this direction. But whether they will say about it later is a big question. For a paradigm may open up " massacre organization"And this is not at all in the vein for the ruling" elite. "

[Altona]

Quote: K-36

It seems to me that this flash drive is only suitable for increasing the page weight of a criminal case. Associated ore, so to speak.

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Well, yes, a priori it is assumed that everything that could significantly affect the course of disclosure, Roslyakov burned.

[page]

Well or not Roslyakov ...

[K-36]

Quote: Altona

Quote: K-36

It seems to me that this flash drive is only suitable for increasing the page weight of a criminal case. Associated ore, so to speak.

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Well, yes, a priori it is assumed that everything that could significantly affect the course of disclosure, Roslyakov burned.

It's not like that at all. Here, for example, a flash drive has surfaced ...
And the telephone is a separate song. For some operator, he had to register when buying a SIM card. And all his calls rest peacefully there: when, what time, by what numbers. And then just roll up your sleeves and go ahead.

[Examenatornick]

now only silly terrorist attacks on the phone are planning. there are a bunch of whatsaps and stuff

[Blue fox]

An explosive device powered remotely is a very serious level of training and knowledge, which, to put it mildly, is strange to see in an 18-year-old civilian guy. If remotely, and even not with the help of electric wires (but it would be strange if so), then we are talking about an electric fuse initiated over the air. Um .. this must be collected very, very able. And talk about the availability of the manual on this topic on the Internet is ridiculous, yet who should be clearly monitored. Yes, and if there is ... for this you also need to have the skill. As a specialist, to some extent, on the topic, I express doubt. Let's wait for the final result.
PS Suppose a guy from a German electric fuse was picking up a mountain near Mithridates, yes, sometimes they are in good condition, but they can be activated by wire ... It smells like regular means, but it’s not a banal grenade, anyway even if you don’t get it even in the troops.

[New Year day]

Quote: Blue Fox

a serious level of training and knowledge, which, to put it mildly, is strange to see in an 18-year-old civilian guy.

Let's compare the shooting at the Columbine School and in Kerch.
Columbine: 2 hands, 2 rifled automatic weapons with a powerful pistol cartridge, pump and shotgun, 1 hour of attack = 13 corpses.
Kerch: 1 shooter, 1 pump, 7 minutes of attack = 19 corpses. Moreover, 15 on the spot!
According to the official version, Roslyakov set an incredible record for the effectiveness of fire among all terrorist attacks in history. The next record for efficiency, fired from several assault rifles with an intermediate cartridge for three hours, 50 corpses. That is, an order of magnitude higher with an order of magnitude worse armament!
Moreover, by recording, you can make sure that the loading time of one shot for this genius of fire training is more than five seconds.
Made 3 explosive devices that worked remotely.

Quote: Blue Fox

If remotely, and even not with the help of electric wires (but it would be strange if so), then we are talking about an electric fuse initiated over the air. Um .. this must be collected very, very able.

it's just a coincidence!

[page]

So far, the official version looks like "noodles".

[Comrade Beria]

Quote: Blue Fox

An explosive device powered remotely is a very serious level of training and knowledge, which, to put it mildly, is strange to see in an 18-year-old civilian guy. If remotely, and even not with the help of electric wires (but it would be strange if so), then we are talking about an electric fuse initiated over the air. Um .. this must be very, very able to be collected ..

I’ll tell you a secret that the ability in this matter is limited to the Ali Express request.
Everything can be found there, up to kits for assembling an impact drone. Alas.
I myself am sinful. I ordered myself a set of remote control gates. He arrived, pressed a button without leaving the car, the light turned on and the gate opened.

But instead of a gate, you can connect an electric detonator.

[Comrade Beria]

And the guy on the electrician, EMNIP, studied.

[Blue fox]

Quote: Comrade Beria

I ordered myself a set of remote control gates. He arrived, pressed a button without leaving the car, the light turned on and the gate opened.

But this can and should be silent in the comments. The specialist already understood me, but there’s nothing for the ignorant here.
I think so.
PS An important point of the I and R system and its individual parts, but you need to either know it from certain special sources or have a lot of time and options for experiments, and this, given the scarcity of the slopes of Mount Mithridates, is doubtful.

[Examenatornick]

In Sochi, an 18-year-old guy who tried to join ISIS, a group banned in Russia, will appear before the court.

According to investigators, the young man was developing a plan to leave for Syria and join the terrorists. Through the Internet, he subscribed to news channels, where he collected information about the route to Syria. He also learned about the necessary list of things, weather forecasts and possible obstacles that may arise.

“He bought food, medicine, personal hygiene products, clothing, cold steel and drove away from Moscow to the Krasnodar Territory,” Komsomolskaya Pravda - Kuban was informed in the press service of the Investigative Committee of the North Caucasus region. - On December 27, 2017, he arrived in the village of Vesyoloye in the Adler region and planned to cross the border between Russia and Abkhazia.

That's just to bring his criminal intent to the end he failed. The guy was detained by security officials.

“A criminal case was opened on the basis of materials provided by the FSB in the region,” add “Komsomolskaya Pravda” - Kuban ”to the Investigative Committee of the Investigative Committee for the region.

Now the fate of the 18-year-old guy will be decided by the court.

[vladcub]

Quote: PalBor

Why, is present. On "Echo of Moscow", for example. But in general, fired without the right to wear a uniform and awards as an example ... Not comme il faut.

Besides, "Echo" is still that bad. They: "they will see the litter in someone else's eye, but they will not see themselves as a log." Oh, how the Kerchinsk drama happened in time: in the Crimea and in Russia there is a lot of "agents of influence" + "cleverness" of EDRiks and whispering where necessary: ​​"There was no such thing under Kiev, but the Russians ... If Ksenia or Kasyan were president, they would this was not allowed "

[vladcub]

Does anyone really believe in objectivity: "Echo"? They are capable of saying Black White and vice versa. How many times on the site they said about this "Echo", that "Echo", that Navalny one nut watering can

[BISMARCK94]

Quote: Examenatornick

logically then the metal detector should have been with him

It is calmly leased.

[APASUS]

It was also previously reported that Roslyakov allegedly could fill the IED with the contents of the munitions of the Second World War, which he found on the battlefield for Kerch

More than 70 years have passed since the war. To extract explosives and use them, and to understand the suitability of a product, an even greater amount of knowledge is required than the manufacture of explosives from household chemicals. Where did a teenager get such specific knowledge?
This once again confirms that the boy was not just reading books, but there are those who directed his actions.

[Zomanus]

Making an IED with the simplest delay is not so difficult.
There you do not need a timer, a radio fuse, etc.
The main thing to understand is whether he himself went or pushed him from the side.