USA: With the help of our submarine drones, NATO will cope with the submarines of the Russian Navy

The American media recalled that during a meeting of representatives of NATO countries at a recent summit, one of the issues raised concerned the confrontation with the Russian submarine the fleet. The United States invited NATO allies to come together to counter Russian submarines, which are presented as one of the main threats to the security of the alliance.

The October release states that the agreement was signed by the 13 of NATO members, and provides for cooperation in the creation of marine unmanned systems.

From the release:

When working together with traditional naval weapons, unmanned vehicles will increase our situational awareness, as well as control over the seas from our side. Thanks to this initiative, the Allies will also be able to use the savings at the expense of the scale of production to reduce costs, which will increase the defense budget.

Based on these statements, we can conclude that the program is aimed not so much at real counteraction to the underwater component of the Russian Navy, but at serving Trump's desire to increase investments in the NATO budget from the members of the alliance. Earlier, the US President criticized a number of NATO countries (primarily Germany) for the fact that their contributions to the NATO budget are less than 2 percent required by the charter of the organization. And the United States will also receive additional profit, since today it is in the United States that a program is being implemented to create drones naval class.

Representatives of the states that put their signatures under the agreement: Belgium, Britain, Greece, Holland, Denmark, Spain, Italy, Norway, Poland, Portugal, USA, Turkey and Germany.

From a statement by the senior scientist at the Atlantic Council, Jorge Benitez:

NATO members are concerned about the growing threat from Russian submarines and are investing more resources to cope with this.

Details about the squadron of underwater UAVs USA - link.

Comments

[Mountain shooter]

Wow! We’ve come from this side, then ... Well, so far it’s just Wishlist. True, expensive. A way to get Europeans to pay the United States for research and experimentation. Pay a lot ...

[maxim947]

In the future, it’s a very effective thing against submarines, and therefore today we need to start thinking - how to deal with them and put our weapons into service faster.

[krot]

Will they handle Poseidon too? Or there will be a strait imini USA and a sea named after England

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: krot

Will they handle Poseidon too?

Which Poseidon? Who to deal with? You will take off your virtual reality glasses and headphones. Return to the real world. If you don't want to, then you are free to stay there, in the virtual world with virtual straits and seas.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: maxim947

so today you need to start thinking

You could start thinking about it 18 years ago. It is possible today, but it is unlikely to happen. The people who were supposed to do this by job, for these 18 years, if they have changed, it is only for the worse.

[Fungus]

In short, Poseidons will fight with NATO drones under water.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Fungus

In short, Poseidons will fight with NATO drones under water.

no, they won’t .... do you know the tasks of Poseidon? ..... they are at war with continents, not drones))

[NG inform]

Poseidon can’t cope with a small iceberg, far from the continents.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Fungus

In short, Poseidons will fight with NATO drones under water.

Rather, something like Harpsichord 2P-PM, Juno and Vityaz.

In addition to vehicles using classical propellers, Russian specialists were the first in the world to create a completely unique underwater glider that looked not even like a classic torpedo, but a cruise missile. He is able to move in the body of water according to a given program with a minimum expenditure of energy, like a glider soaring in the sky. It really has wings that allow this fantastic machine to plan underwater over vast distances. Moreover, the energy of its batteries is spent only on changing buoyancy, to ensure the operation of on-board equipment and periodic communication with the base.

Such a robot glider is capable of being in autonomous scuba diving for up to 30 days. Plying, for example, along guarded borders, a group of such devices is able to provide constant monitoring of vast water areas with minimal energy costs. The gliders themselves move silently, and it is practically impossible to determine that a particular region of the ocean is under their protection.

[konstantin68]

But are there no weapons? Or a ram? Antenna is also in doubt. Before the thermocline, there may be enough communication. Or maybe not. But the message is good, in the end, the future lies with such devices.

[san4es]

Quote: konstantin68

... ultimately, the future lies with such devices.

... Only not in the Arctic. To transmit data echo location and recharge the battery through the ice will not break ... Yes, and a good storm, they will tear off all the antennas.

The modular cargo bay of the Echo Voyager allows you to equip the submarine with various equipment, which makes it universal for use in military purposes or scientific research. This summer, Boeing plans to conduct the final tests of the new submarine, after which it will enter the domestic and international markets.
https://warspot.ru/5576-boeing-menyaet-pravila-igry-pod-vodoy

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: san4es

Not in the Arctic. To transmit data of echo-location and recharging the batteries, they will not break through the ice ... Yes, and a good storm, they will tear off all antennas.

To solve a problem, you should begin to solve it. The road will be overpowered by a walker. And there, along the way, there are solutions.
Only here they demolished a monument to a similar traveler known as "He who walks will master the road," and a cross was erected in its place.

[san4es]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

... should begin to solve it. The road will be overpowered by a walker. And there, along the way, there will be solutions ...

...Well yes. if only they paid $$ ...

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: san4es

...Well yes. if only they paid $$ ...

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[san4es]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

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.... This summer, Boeing plans to conduct the final tests of the new submarine, after which it will enter the domestic and international markets.

[rocket757]

Now they also want to saturate underwater spaces with killer .... automation!
The desire of mankind, especially advanced, to universal extermination, is unshakable!
I wonder how much we will stretch at this pace?

[Slinqshot]

Boeing has already dived under water

[Guillon]

We did not start it, but we will end!

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Gillaton

We did not start it, but we will end!

and who can see it?

[gunnerminer]

It’s high time for Davan to start making his reliable underwater drones.

[KOCMOC]

The United States invited NATO allies to come together to counter Russian submarines, which are presented as one of the main threats to the security of the alliance.

They practically openly declare against whom, this cannot be regarded otherwise than as war, confrontation. And here are some claims that there is no confrontation between the us / west and russia. There are only internal problems, with Putin, officials, oligarchs, pensioners, in short, everything is bad and Putin is to blame for everything, but there are no Americans and the land is flat ...
Z.Y. Americans, like home-grown idiots, don't like Putin either here it is interesting what is common in them?

[Larum]

What did you want?
Our announced nuclear-drones, these in response - these.
As an enai, neither of them really exist yet,
but unmanned boats in the United States are already actually serving.

[stalki]

Where does the infa about what is not? Did the center tell you, or did the granny whisper in her ear?

[gunnerminer]

There are no grounds for availability. Regardless of the grandmothers from the center.

[Voyager]

What do you mean there are no grounds for availability? Argument your statements specifically, or don’t do them at all

[gunnerminer]

Arguments are the most common, and have long been known. Dmitry Olegovich Rogozin constantly mentions them in his outstanding speeches. A shortage of qualified engineers and workers aged 30-50 years, the absence of modern electronic components. If previously the Kibalchysh Boys from rear structures and greedy producers managed to get noticeable parts of components, now the law enforcement and intelligence agencies of NATO partners have strengthened their counterproductive legal and illegal operational activities in this direction. The situation with lithium-ion batteries and acoustics for such drones is especially bad.

[Voyager]

"No engineers", "bad with acoustics, batteries and electronics", "Rogozin" - and these are all arguments? Maybe there are specific facts, figures and evidence that we do not have and cannot have working copies?

Because it looks funny: I, a gunnerminer, responsibly declare that all references and statements about status-6 are just empty talk, and the reason for this is that they "fucked up all the polymers."

[gunnerminer]

-Maybe there are concrete facts, figures and evidence that we do not and cannot have working copies? -

Understand the working instance is very extensible. It does not represent combat value, since it is not accepted for service, and its parameters do not tire the customer. Such drones are needed for mass saturation of PLO fleets. Another factor is the horse price of the prototype of the working sample. Such a model appeared, and could become even the smallest threat to the NATO submariners, they would have heard about it five times already, including in social networks. Or in personal conversations of military personnel.

[Voyager]

And here are the NATO submariners in general, if we are talking about the defeat of the coastal zone? Who said that the parameters do not suit the customer, and where did you manage to see the requirements of the Moscow Region for these same parameters?

Answer specifically the previous questions, then translate the topic in a different direction, as you do now.

[gunnerminer]

In the coastal zone, the deployment of NATO submarines begins to carry out the main event and while increasing the level of combat readiness of the fleets.

-Who said that the parameters do not suit the customer -

Navy life screams about it. If it was convenient for the customer, we would send a series of drones. We would start their mass development at the KTOF and KSF in order to plug a hole in the submarine incomplete set. Changes would be made to the Russian Navy TRPL, combat training course (KPL and KPL).

- did you manage to see the requirements of the Moscow Region for these very parameters? -
Nobody dares to forbid you to read open sources, and confidentially talk with developers, contractors, naval officers involved.

[Dr.KonradMorgen]

There are no grounds for availability. Regardless of the grandmothers from the center.

We look:

In March 2018, the Pentagon officially included “Status-6” in the Russian nuclear triad through a report on strategic threats to the United States Nuclear Posture Review

What do you think?

[Larum]

Our military / scientists several times made it clear in an interview that there was no ready-made system.
Only tests of different systems. (Star, here, etc.)
It's like a nuclear rocket, about which the spyen leaked information about a number of unsuccessful trials.
And a number of scientists / designers said that it is not yet ready-made.

[Dr.KonradMorgen]

It's like a nuclear rocket, about which the spyen leaked information about a number of unsuccessful trials.

Well ... If we are to look at things realistically, disinformation can be both the statement of the GDP about the successful creation of a strategic missile defense system with nuclear power-guided missile system, and the statements of Western representatives about the failure of its tests with reference to the "super agent".

[gunnerminer]

-Representatives of the states that have put their signatures under the agreement: Belgium, Britain, Greece, Holland, Denmark, Spain, Italy, Norway, Poland, Portugal, USA, Turkey and Germany .-

It is easier to beat with an osprey and an old man. Given the presence, albeit rather poor, of submarines in Turkey, Greece, Portugal, Spain, Poland, the Netherlands, and Norway, they will be able to increase the likelihood of finding Russian submarines in the threatened period, and the high probability of their successful attacks in the operational period.An insignificant number of linear Russian submarines is at hand for the negotiators.Norwegian and Dutch submarine crews are less prepared.Navy and British submarines have no submarines in the UK and the United States hopes for poor progress with the introduction of the submarine drones system.

[dvina71]

Quote from rudolf

+1
It is a logical and expected step.

Well, the answer to this step is the production and use of rattles drones .. which will wander around the sea and ocean and create loud noises .. imitating schools of fish, sound anomalies .. or just "white noise" .. I would add to the armament such devices ..

[dvina71]

Quote from rudolf

can use the active GAS tract.

Well, here it is only up to the filters .. and frequency matching .. EWs do not interfere with their work .. In addition, rattles for example can mimic the sound profile of a pl .. here it will be fun with PLOShnikov ..

[gunnerminer]

-that will be fun with PLOShnikov ..-

So far, the Navy ploshniki is not up to the fun.

[gunnerminer]

Stationary detection tools have a problem in fishing vessels hovering in the areas where they are located. The crews of these fishermen, in the pursuit of profit, go to all sorts of violations. They are not even stopped by warning artillery fires. Rotating antennas of stationary systems are particularly affected, for example, KTOF, near Kamchatka the antenna of one of the complexes was blocked by networks. The crew of the AU Prize, sent to correct the situation, got into the network, lost power, and only the British sailors who came to the rescue helped save the crew. This happened some time after the events of 01.08.2000/XNUMX/XNUMX at the KSF.

[Kokarev Mikhail]

Again vparili some x * p * ny European. Profit is profit, and it doesn’t matter what, if only the fairy tale was beautiful!

[gunnerminer]

Because they have a powerful administrative resource. Their law enforcement and intelligence bodies have been working hard for years, accumulating materials, including compromising materials regarding their top and regional officials, heads of departments and other responsible persons. Now they are sitting in their offices, and pulling the laces, achieving the desired results.

[Sadko88]

Especially the tsunami of our drones will cope, yeah

[bratchanin3]

Nothing else can be expected from the Anglo-Saxons. They found themselves in a stupor - the "defeated" Russia with its destroyed economy and Western attempts to isolate does not want to die. They already announced the victory and handed out the medals to the “winners”, but here again there is a threat, but they are not ready and relaxed, and here again they have to take the gun in their hands. It's like in kindergarten .....

[gunnerminer]

You should not expect. We must act. But without the Anglo-Saxons anywhere. Their loans are especially needed. Which differ in reasonable interest and terms.

[An60]

And I wonder why Canada did not sign. Are you pozmotichali or not afraid of Russian submarines?

[gunnerminer]

The Canadian authorities can safely enjoy their syrup and watch hockey. Pay attention to the number of linear submarines KSF and KTOF. Especially KTOF.

[Sands Careers General]

The United States behaves like a racketeer, it is trying to extract money from vassals for dubious projects, convincing Europe that we, they say, are protecting you from "evil and totalitarian Russia."

[gunnerminer]

There is no one to tackle the racketeer. And he has many vassals.

[Alexey-74]

All this is in the long term, and NATO should already pay for all US developments .... besides, the effectiveness of drones is still far from the desired result, and our designers are on the alert ...

[GUKTU76]

Quote: gunnerminer

Osprey and dad to beat easier.

We know the results of the activities of the anti-ISIS coalition in Syria before Russia appeared there. And the results of "lonely" Russia.
The "castrated" brethren are capable of little.

[ashnajder]

the first motorists also shouted, buy a horse)))))) and where are the horses now))?