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Who shot Roslyakov on the way to the landfill in Kerch? Videofact

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The deputy head of the Kerch city administration, Dilyaver Melgaziyev, says that a decision has not yet been made about where the student V.Roslyakov will be buried, who has arranged a real massacre in the college building where he himself studied. According to the official, neither the mother, nor the father of the murderer, nor his other relatives, applied for the extradition of the body.


The authorities of Kerch earlier reported that the killer would be buried at the site of the cemetery for the rootless. This information is currently not confirmed. The authorities and law enforcement officials have concerns that as a kind of revenge, people can simply turn around the burial place of this scumbag.

Meanwhile, the investigation continues. A record appeared at the disposal of the investigative teams, which shows how Roslyakov carries a bundle and a small safe. He hides it in dense vegetation, according to other data - he buries. The video is published by REN TV. At the same time, judging by the presented frames, it can be concluded that the shooting could have been carried out by someone consciously watching Roslyakov. If we are talking about the captured video from the monitor, then the location of the surveillance camera raises the question.



Earlier, Vladislav Roslyakova’s grandmother reported that her grandson came to her a few days before the tragedy in college and asked her to give him his children's photos. He explained this way: I am going to digitize everything.

In the place where Roslyakov went with the rollout, burnt personal belongings, religious books, photographs, as well as information carriers (flash drives, SIM cards) were found.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 22 October 2018 06: 53
    +32
    This scumbag got me ... looked at his brains flew out ... a piece of stupid meat and he couldn’t imagine anything more ... we’ll wait for the results of a full investigation of this case.
    For their versions now here on NVO with tarpaulin boots some too vigilant comrades are beating in the face.
    It becomes dangerous to express your opinion.
    1. 2329 Carpenter
      2329 Carpenter 22 October 2018 07: 17
      +11
      Weighty such boots!
      But do not be afraid. We're not looking for easy ways. For all sorts of faces there are all sorts of other boots!
      am good
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 22 October 2018 08: 08
        +20
        I watched the video carefully several times.
        It must be assumed that the guy was not only psychologically directed (more than indulged in his intentions) to his future crime, knowing about his personal morally unsatisfied qualities, but they were even accountable to someone. Video was needed just for this - for video control over his willingness to fulfill his crime.

        It would be necessary to find out which of his comrades (in the same college, for example, a student or an assistant from the outside) also visited a mother’s banned sect in the Russian Federation or was associated with a punk bandit youth group, or with sites for organizing suicides among young people.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 22 October 2018 08: 56
          +4
          Quote: Tatiana
          It must be assumed that the guy was not only psychologically directed (more than indulged in his intentions) to his future crime, knowing about his personal morally unsatisfied qualities, but they were even accountable to someone.

          You are in your repertoire. For several fragmentary videos, draw a thoughtful conclusion. However, here some went even further - without any video and without a single fact they immediately declared that they knew who arranged everything. Of course, the world behind the scenes is to blame for all Russian problems. But to admit that these problems are inherent in the Russian society itself - the gut is thin.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 October 2018 11: 02
            +10
            Quote: Normal ok
            You are in your repertoire. For several fragmentary videos, draw a thoughtful conclusion.

            Ha! And you, Peter, as always, in your groundless repertoire. Like, an exceptional case does not give a reason to think about social problems in society.

            You, Peter, have a political "repertoire", as in the song of Leonid Utesov:
            "It's all right, lovely marquise!
            Things are going and life is easy!
            None, sad surprise
            Except for the "trifle" ...!
          2. ZKB
            ZKB 22 October 2018 14: 17
            +3
            it is not a CCTV camera, it is clear that it is not stationary (goes from side to side) and zooms in on this type.
        2. Katyusha
          Katyusha 22 October 2018 09: 15
          +9
          Quote: Tatiana
          the guy was not only just psychologically guided

          If he did all this himself, then he had strong-willed strong-willed and org qualities. I just can’t grasp one thing - well, yes, life has thrown you into not the best of beginnings: your father is disabled, your mother with an unfortunate fate, life in a slum kennel. But why didn’t all this charge of his will rush to learn better than anyone else, to earn more than anyone else. No matter how economically difficult it is in the country, these are not the days of serfdom, well, at least some elevators still exist.
          He just sent nafik to my mother's "forbidden sect" - there is the path of humble slavish consent and inaction. The Witnesses are an American pro-Christian sect with a couple of specific deviations. In fact, it would be correct to ban all Americanized sects. They are direct agents of Anglo-Saxon submission. For the rest ... the survival of children in our time is the responsibility of the parents themselves, no one else will help.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 22 October 2018 09: 54
            +8
            If he did all this himself, then he had strong-willed strong-willed and org qualities.


            Well, I'm sorry to bungle IEDs and get weapons without special strong-willed and organizational qualities ... you don’t need outstanding brains ... rather, on the contrary ... we need base desires to bring death and suffering to innocent people ... only this is Roslyakov different from normal people.
            I know a lot of people whose life has been pressed worse than this non-human ... but none of them rushed to kill children.
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 22 October 2018 11: 09
              +6
              you can get weapons without any strong-willed and organizational qualities ... outstanding brains for this is not necessary

              You judge by yourself - educated held personality. For modern adolescents with a fragile psyche, increased excitability, lack of concentration in most cases, these are really outstanding indicators. Most, having such problems as he, will turn sour at home. A small proportion of individuals will overpower themselves and build their lives by going through obstacles, and few (let there be fewer) choose the path of Roslyakov. And this is WITHOUT accounting for mental illness. Let the one who reads my comment does not misunderstand me, I do not justify the offender and, moreover, do not defend. Just trying to objectively look at things in order to understand his motives. For this guy, killing children is not primarily children, but peers. This is for you, for me they are children. For him - peers. In addition, your friends, whom life pressed, were unlikely to carry mental illness. Understand that without proper supervision and treatment there is no escape from this - if the manic desire to kill is ripening, it will not dissipate by itself, and mentally ill people, attention, are rarely to blame for the fact that they are sick.
          2. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 October 2018 10: 22
            +12
            Quote: Katiusha
            But why did not all this charge of his will rush to learn better than anyone else, to earn more than anyone else. No matter how economically difficult it is in the country, these are not the days of serfdom, well, at least some elevators still exist.

            Social elevators are determined by a person’s abilities and his social connections. Not for nothing they say that social connections "at the top" are human social capital, after money.
            The guy had neither one nor the other. Namely.

            On the one handIt is useful to know and study personality psychology. This is a whole science, which should be applied in practice by psychologists to help educate and protect society from undesirable excesses ..
            And on the other hand, now it is not the 1990s for the intensive gangster privatization of the initial capital accumulation in our country. For the "lower classes", this "shop" has historically already been covered by the emerging super-rich oligarchs in the Russian government.
            TOTAL In the 1990's, he would have definitely found himself in criminality, as many former athletes with a flexible conscience had found themselves then, or would have folded his exuberant head in gang warfare. But now he has such an open opportunity in his country - with his passion for arms and neglect of others - no longer. He simply could not reach the contractor by age, study and connections.
            And the college does not give distributions by profession to work, as it was in Soviet times, to its graduates.

            For all that я not so much I say about himself - about the killer - how much about social negativity in our country under the current social system, which forms such killers of young people with socially depressive mental disorders. And the West, one way or another, unequivocally uses it to destroy popular social bonds in Russian society.
          3. MCMLX
            MCMLX 22 October 2018 10: 30
            +7
            He just sent nafik to my mother's "forbidden sect" - there is the path of humble slavish consent and inaction. The Witnesses are an American pro-Christian sect with a couple of specific deviations. In fact, it would be correct to ban all Americanized sects. They are direct agents of Anglo-Saxon subordination.


            You are mistaken. This is a Jewish sect. Judaism for the gentiles.
            The fact that Roslyakov burned together with children's photographs and "religious literature" only says that he was still a sectarian, like his mother. The act of burning one and the other before this action (in fact, a ritual suicide) speaks of the equivalence for him of his personality and beliefs

            Sects! Sects !! Look who made maidan in Ukraine. Look at the sectarians in Russia and their actions, while careful. Well, not really not understandable.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 22 October 2018 10: 48
              +5
              Quote: MCMLX
              The fact that Roslyakov burned together with children's photographs and "religious literature" only says that he was still a sectarian, like his mother. The act of burning one and the other before this action (in fact, a ritual suicide) speaks of the equivalence for him of his personality and beliefs
              This is your absolutely internally consistent logical judgment. I agree with you.
              Quote: MCMLX
              Sects! Sects !! Look who made maidan in Ukraine. Look at the sectarians in Russia and their actions, while careful. Well, not really not understandable.
              And this observation is also correct.
              I will say even more. That under their cover of foreign sects, foreign intelligence agencies always work in them against the country of arrival.
              Even the new US ambassador to Russia, John Huntsman, is the bearer of the interests of Mormons, Rothschilds, Israel and McCain’s methods. The mission with which he arrives in Moscow, according to Russian experts, is likely to be aimed at undermining the Russian state from within.

              Source: https://fishki.net/anti/2340587-vam-rasskazaty-kto-takoj-novyj-posol-ssha-v-rossii.html © Fishki.net
            2. Sandor Clegane
              Sandor Clegane 22 October 2018 11: 27
              +4
              Quote: MCMLX
              Sects! Sects !! Look who made maidan in Ukraine. Look at the sectarians in Russia and their actions

              even on our site there is (was) a sect of torquemada ... its followers and senior staff are still participating in discussions of topics and are preparing their own answer ....
          4. Voyager
            Voyager 22 October 2018 11: 00
            -1
            You just look at it another way. How many people just went the way you are talking about (I'm talking about striving to become better), but this one.
          5. tomket
            tomket 22 October 2018 12: 36
            0
            Quote: Katiusha
            to earn the most.

            It turns out that not for everyone "to earn the most" is the main measure of this life. Opening, right?
          6. Tahtvjd2868
            Tahtvjd2868 23 October 2018 15: 06
            0
            As an example, you can give Romka Abramovich .. An orphan guy ..
        3. New Year day
          New Year day 22 October 2018 09: 17
          +13
          Quote: Tatiana
          The video was needed just for this - for video control over his willingness to fulfill the crime he had conceived.

          many are already sure that he is not a loner. The main thing is that SK believes in it
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    2. SSR
      SSR 22 October 2018 07: 41
      +9
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      For their versions now here on NVO with tarpaulin boots some too vigilant comrades are beating in the face.

      + but people just yesterday correctly noticed that we don't know much and information will emerge, so it will "pop up".
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      It becomes dangerous to express your opinion

      Especially if it goes against the opinion of the crackers.)))
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      This scumbag got me ...

      + My personal opinion is that the media should not get carried away with "fried" articles and catchy headlines and promote such trash.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 22 October 2018 07: 50
      +6
      This killer will not have a grave. The people will not tolerate this. Most likely, she will be nameless or cremated, but this is already at the request of the parents.
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 22 October 2018 08: 20
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        but this is at the request of the parents.

        The reaction of the parents is already known -
        Parents of Vladislav Roslyakov, who staged a massacre at Kerch College, did not begin to seek his body, said the deputy head of the administration Dilyaver Melgaziev. For this reason the time and place of his funeral is not known


        Quote: Vanek
        FOR THE FENCE !!!
        DO NOT FUN !!!

        According to Christian dogmas, suicides cannot be buried in a church, buried on consecrated ground (which is what a cemetery is), or ordered for them memorial services in churches. And according to OUR Laws, the special status of the burial of suicides is not stipulated in any way. Although I am a staunch atheist, except for the phrase "Burn him in hell"nothing else comes to mind.
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    5. KLV2018
      KLV2018 22 October 2018 08: 51
      0
      maybe he left his business card?
    6. Vend
      Vend 22 October 2018 09: 48
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      This scumbag got me ... looked at his brains flew out ... a piece of stupid meat and he couldn’t imagine anything more ... we’ll wait for the results of a full investigation of this case.
      For their versions now here on NVO with tarpaulin boots some too vigilant comrades are beating in the face.
      It becomes dangerous to express your opinion.

      Are you sure that no one else is behind him?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 22 October 2018 10: 14
        +3
        Are you sure that no one else is behind him?

        No, not sure.
        Here I am most confused by the presence of explosives in him and quite powerful ... in what way it got to him and in what quantity ... we need to trace all his movements ... this should be done by the investigation ... so we can only observe the course of the investigation and make your assumptions based on your level of knowledge and life experience.
    7. Ekaterina Shtepa
      Ekaterina Shtepa 23 October 2018 12: 27
      -2
      Yes, I can soak up a woman’s shoe with you ... that a hairpin through your eyes will enter your brain, brother!
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 22 October 2018 06: 55
    +5
    until a decision has been made on where they will bury

    FOR THE FENCE !!!

    DO NOT FUN !!!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 22 October 2018 07: 03
      +3
      FOR THE FENCE !!!

      DO NOT FUN !!!

      I wouldn’t bury him either ... he is not worthy of it .. to throw his dogs in a landfill.
      1. annodomene
        annodomene 22 October 2018 08: 20
        +3
        I fully support.
      2. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 22 October 2018 08: 21
        +3
        No need to poison dogs with all sorts of nasty things. A dog is a noble animal .. It's just that people are often not grateful to a friend of a person walking for a millennium next to the two-legged. Saving a person in the most difficult conditions ... Throw this frame into some kind of serpentarium-crocodile, to crocodiles or anacondas .. Let cold-blooded reptiles eat ...
        1. Retvizan 8
          Retvizan 8 22 October 2018 08: 45
          +1
          Into the cesspool!
          Here is a decent ending.
          1. Galleon
            Galleon 22 October 2018 09: 04
            +16
            And what only in a hole? Do you want to cut off his ears as revenge? Eyes gouged out? hammer testicles in the throat? He is already without weapons, there will be no answers?
            He is already gone. Why do you want to mock the corpse? Will your grief become easier? What kind of grief is this? ... I understand, if he were alive - court, execution to a bastard!
            Now what?
            1. MCMLX
              MCMLX 22 October 2018 12: 40
              +2
              The most important thing here is not to leave a trace of him on the ground, so as not to turn his grave into a place of remembrance or worship for all "sympathizers". Earlier this problem was solved by the method of burning. What's better now?
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 22 October 2018 09: 21
          +5
          Quote: 30 vis
          Dog noble animal


          and burn this evil spirits in the crematorium and what remains to be buried deeper in the steppe
      3. Ekaterina Shtepa
        Ekaterina Shtepa 23 October 2018 12: 28
        0
        Gold words ! This place is not even worthy near the cemetery ...
  3. Olegater
    Olegater 22 October 2018 06: 56
    +8
    At the same time, judging by the presented frames, it can be concluded that the shooting is not carried out by an outdoor video surveillance camera, but by someone who is consciously observing Roslyakov.

    Possible accomplice?
    I understand that investigative and operational measures are ongoing. But!!
    As a result, the investigation could tell the truth what it was possible to establish, and the whole mechanism of the resonant crime !!
    But, again, they will not. And if they say so, it is fragmentary and not concrete.
    The truth is needed to prevent further such tragedies.
    Explain why it happened, what signs, etc. and how to deal with it !!!
    1. igorbrsv
      igorbrsv 22 October 2018 07: 16
      +25
      Yes, what are the signs. I can’t cope with my own daughter. And the law is not on my side. Strap on your ass and then it's illegal
    2. KLV2018
      KLV2018 22 October 2018 08: 59
      +4
      Quote: Olegater
      At the same time, judging by the presented frames, it can be concluded that the shooting is not carried out by an outdoor video surveillance camera, but by someone who is consciously observing Roslyakov.

      Possible accomplice?
      I understand that investigative and operational measures are ongoing. But!!
      As a result, the investigation could tell the truth what it was possible to establish, and the whole mechanism of the resonant crime !!
      But, again, they will not. And if they say so, it is fragmentary and not concrete.
      The truth is needed to prevent further such tragedies.
      Explain why it happened, what signs, etc. and how to deal with it !!!

      ordinary people will be explained as they should. not the fact that it was so in reality.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 22 October 2018 09: 23
      +1
      Quote: Olegater
      As a result, investigations could tell the truth.

      But are there any results? investigation is ongoing.
  4. dragy52rus
    dragy52rus 22 October 2018 07: 03
    +13
    The video is taken from the phone monitor. the plot is uncovered.
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  6. parusnik
    parusnik 22 October 2018 07: 06
    +2
    Video, very interesting ...
  7. burigaz2010
    burigaz2010 22 October 2018 07: 10
    +7
    Cremate a freak and dust in the wind !!! From such even a trace on the earth should not remain !!! And as for the accomplice, I do not believe, it seems to be myself!
    1. Voyager
      Voyager 22 October 2018 11: 16
      0
      Unfortunately, a trace from him has already remained - the buried bodies of his convicts, destroyed destinies and grief for the rest of his life with relatives. His plan was a success. You do not spend your strength and emotions there. It is necessary to strengthen supervision of the young by all methods, to increase the staff of psychologists assigned to educational institutions specifically in order to identify such problems in advance. It is impossible to reach everyone, but it will reduce the risks.
  8. Bacha
    Bacha 22 October 2018 07: 14
    +1
    Quote: dragy52rus
    The video is taken from the phone monitor. the plot is uncovered.

    To remove something on the phone from the monitor, you need to show it on the monitor. The question is, who filmed this "something"?
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 22 October 2018 07: 35
      +1
      Quote: Bacha
      The question is, who filmed this "something"?

      Surveillance camera near the entrance or at the corner of the building.
      1. Retvizan 8
        Retvizan 8 22 October 2018 08: 19
        +6
        This is not a stationary camera from an entrance or, for example, a gas station, this is shooting "from hand".
        The picture moves and accompanies the object first to the bushes, then back.
        A strange video, the question is who and why was filming and how now did the operatives find themselves?
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 22 October 2018 08: 29
          +4
          Quote: Retvizan 8
          This is not a stationary camera from an entrance or, for example, a gas station, this is shooting "from hand".

          You should read the comments. We already wrote above - they removed the monitor from the hand. I’ll hint at once - the monitor frame gets into the frame, look at the recording carefully.
          1. Retvizan 8
            Retvizan 8 22 October 2018 08: 59
            0
            Dear, thanks, indeed, I watched the video, you are probably right.
            This moves the camera shooting the monitor. When the picture is enlarged, even a pixel on the screen is visible.
        2. Gray brother
          Gray brother 22 October 2018 08: 35
          +2
          Quote: Retvizan 8
          A strange video, the question is who and why was filming and how now did the operatives find themselves?

          5 days (in our area so, at least) the recording cycle on the screws, one of the staff got to the server and shot this video to sell.
          At the operatives, it is in normal form, and not taken on the phone. They are looking through the recordings anyway.
        3. LSA57
          LSA57 22 October 2018 09: 28
          +1
          Quote: Retvizan 8
          A strange video, the question is who and why was filming and how now did the operatives find themselves?

          and how she ended up in the hands of television people
          1. Examenatornick
            Examenatornick 23 October 2018 07: 56
            +1
            business, for exclusive pay good money and to get TV people also give good money.
      2. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 22 October 2018 12: 27
        +1
        Quote: Gray Brother
        Surveillance camera near the entrance or at the corner of the building.

        Definitely not a camera on the porch! Such people stand motionless, and the camera that shot Roslyakova followed him.
    2. dragy52rus
      dragy52rus 22 October 2018 07: 40
      +3
      walk around the city and look at the pillars and walls. the number of cameras may surprise you. Previously, even the installation program was for residential buildings.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 22 October 2018 08: 16
        +3
        Quote: dragy52rus
        . the number of cameras may surprise you.

        On my 6-door house, there are two street doors to the entrance, plus four turning points at the corners, plus one on the roof and a couple more private ones - the residents themselves hung near their windows to watch the cars. And this is an old Soviet-built house, without any HOA.
      2. Dikson
        Dikson 22 October 2018 08: 36
        +7
        Street surveillance cameras capture a static picture. And here the operator accompanies the subject. This time. The camera which they shoot is located very low. Surveillance cameras are mounted on poles or corners of buildings, increasing the area of ​​the captured image. Optics on such cameras are wide-angle as a rule. - (Fish eye). Here, it was shot with an ordinary lens and judging by the angle of shooting relative to the surface of the earth - either from a car window, or from a height of human growth. maximum window of the first floor.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 22 October 2018 08: 43
          0
          Quote: Dikson
          0
          Street surveillance cameras capture a static picture. And here the operator accompanies the subject.

          Another non-reader. Take off the monitor. The camera moves relative to the screen and the zoom changes.
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 22 October 2018 08: 54
            +6
            Well, yes .. It's hard not to notice the movement of a column across the screen. And that the monitor is removed - it is also clear to the reader without your comment. And not about the location of the person with the phone who was shooting the monitor, but the one who was filming the alleged killer, do you have a comment? I do not agree with your opinion about the surveillance camera. Such cameras are directed to specific areas - entrances, driveways, pavilions, intersections .. What is important, in addition to the crooked support, is fixed in your opinion by this supposedly surveillance camera ..?
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 22 October 2018 09: 09
              0
              Quote: Dikson
              Do you have a comment on someone who allegedly shot the killer?

              I do not consider soulless technology to be a man.
              1. Sergey Medvedev
                Sergey Medvedev 22 October 2018 12: 36
                +1
                Quote: Gray Brother
                I do not consider soulless technology to be a man.

                Of course, there is a soulless technique that can accompany moving objects. But it’s expensive, so I didn’t even encounter such cool systems on ordinary residential buildings. Are you sure this is an artificial intelligence system?
                Definitely not a person filming? What are the signs?
  9. Wilderness
    Wilderness 22 October 2018 07: 30
    +14
    Very informative video! Someone, somewhere, carries something. Then he throws it away. Then he goes back. Perhaps this is your neighbor. Or Obama. Or a Himalayan man. It is not clear: who was filming, why filmed. And most importantly - why on all videos (from surveillance cameras too) the timing is cut off and for what purpose these videos are laid out. And this is not done off. representatives of the investigation, and through the yellow "garbage" bins, such as RENTV or Komsomol members?
    1. l7yzo
      l7yzo 22 October 2018 08: 23
      +3
      You well noticed - that THESE media are not official and always show "fantasy". Apparently foreseeing that the video, like the Kemerovo one, would leak into the network by itself, they decided to post it themselves, and even made the effect "like they took it out." And by technology - posted on such channels. To create a "correct" perception of these records and material. Just as always - everyone is silent about everything.
  10. konstantin68
    konstantin68 22 October 2018 08: 14
    +6
    Is this recording authentic? And surely this one on it ...? And then our media are now filming, for the sake of ratings.
  11. Snail N9
    Snail N9 22 October 2018 08: 17
    +7
    I do not agree with the words of one gentleman that "globalization" is to blame for what happened. Despite the tragedy of the situation, there is nothing new and unusual in it. A similar thing is described by Dostoevsky in his "Crime and Punishment". What happened has an identical component to that of Dostoevsky, he just has an "ax", and here is a "pump-action shotgun", there is an "old woman", and here is "young people" ... but the reason is the same - the answer to the eternal question: "am I trembling or .... have the right?" ....
    1. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 22 October 2018 15: 15
      +2
      I also remembered Raskolnikov.
  12. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 22 October 2018 08: 35
    -1
    An interesting fact was noted by Potapenko the other day - if Roslyakov were shot in the head with his shotgun loaded with buckshot, then, at best, only part of the lower jaw would remain from the head, and the photo shows that the head is intact. So think for yourself ... and then there’s this video, with obvious surveillance
  13. faiver
    faiver 22 October 2018 08: 40
    +3
    not a record but some crap ... hi
  14. And
    And 22 October 2018 08: 52
    +2
    As far as I think, the original video broadcast on the monitor was shot with a wide-angle camera recording part of the surrounding area, possibly installed on a private house (the road, and some rubbish, possibly building, in front of the camera is clearly not the center of the city). The camera does not move, the phone moves along the monitor on which this recording was already taken.
    1. faiver
      faiver 22 October 2018 10: 25
      +1
      and there is...
      1. And
        And 22 October 2018 10: 42
        +2
        Good afternoon. And to the content of the video itself, i.e. "news" ren-tv, many questions - some young man, it is not clear when, it is not clear where, he brought something into some bushes and immediately left. And journalists claim that "Roslyakov buried a safe in a vacant lot" and burned his personal belongings. But who discovered this and when, is it known to the investigating authorities - of course they do not say. In general, the main thing for a journalist is to make more money on the tragedy.
  15. Pavil144
    Pavil144 22 October 2018 10: 28
    -1
    Soplyakov and a weakling, unable to solve their problems, took up the barrel and decided that others were to blame for his problems. I don’t think that he had accomplices, he himself prepared everything and watched the video about Columbine.
  16. Kerensky
    Kerensky 22 October 2018 11: 08
    +3
    Assume that everything is correct:
    a record appeared on which Roslyakov was carrying a bundle and small safe. He hides it in dense vegetation, according to other sources - bury.


    At the place where Roslyakov went with a bundle, charred personal items found religious books, photographs, as well as information carriers (flash drives, SIM cards).

    Then pay attention to these points.
    It is not said that he burned something. And he hid it - he buried it. That is going to pick up. Then who burned and why?
    To burn things, it is not necessary to drag the safe if there is a key to it.
  17. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 22 October 2018 11: 35
    +4
    his mother, Jehovah’s witness, forbade her to communicate with her peers since childhood, forbade a lot of other things, as a result, a sociopath who had no friends or woman was born, a natural result of such upbringing, a common situation in the USA, when a scumbag grows up in a family of believers
  18. Peter Ivanov
    Peter Ivanov 22 October 2018 11: 38
    +4
    How many more roslyakovs, raised by this society, walk while they are alive? Only this system, capitalist relations, when man is a beast to man, brings up such "qualities" in man from childhood! Kozma Prutkov taught: "Behold at the root!" And this root is in capitalism in the Russian Federation! There was nothing of the kind in Our Union and could not be!
  19. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 22 October 2018 11: 42
    +6
    Wherever you look, something very competently worked ghoul. It doesn’t at all look like a schizophrinoid who has gone mad and stoned by some dope. Burned things, photos, sim carats, flash drives means self-cleaned up from the investigation. The video is absolutely calm and consistent, he dealt with explosives without difficulty, worked out the program and turned himself off. Or is it the only self-training or dude someone was cooking.
    1. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 22 October 2018 15: 28
      +1
      I think the dude is specifically notorious, was clearly obsessed with this idea. Long prepared for this.
      His allowance was scumbags from Columbia, and I think a lot of similar stories.
      I think in college he really was alone, but everything turned out so badly because he was prepared for this, clearly trained, the effect of surprise and coincidence (a matter of chance).
      He was cold-blooded, because it was the idea of ​​his life, he was obsessed with it.
      And remember what one of Columbai says? "When this happens, I cannot wait for this moment" ...
  20. Ramzaj99
    Ramzaj99 22 October 2018 12: 43
    +3
    It was immediately clear that one person is not capable of this. He was clearly helped, he was clearly trained to be automatic (to charge the pump with shaking hands, he also had hemorrhoids), he was psychologically trained, he shoots very well, judging by the result, he has excellent command of mine explosive training. Rambo is direct and not a student. And now it turns out that he was led. There clearly could not have been without the creatures of a neighboring country ......
  21. Fenix 2.0
    Fenix 2.0 22 October 2018 13: 24
    +4
    Quote: Pavil144
    Soplyakov and a weakling, unable to solve their problems, took up the barrel and decided that others were to blame for his problems. I don’t think that he had accomplices, he himself prepared everything and watched the video about Columbine.

    73 victims, a jerk and a wimp are good, but in general it’s all muddy, starting with the re-qualification of the case, to the pop-up new details ....
  22. aristok
    aristok 22 October 2018 16: 09
    +3
    showed a cut from how someone walks the stairs
    and in front of the buildings. She does not prove anything and may be
    taken from any days and hours

    Next, we were shown shots at 2 or 3 people.
    The first victim in the video is shown lying after the cut piece.
    Those. it again proves nothing - a leap can be a montage
    There remains 1 obvious victim (2 shots) and one hidden from the camera

    After that, we were shown the shooting of 2 backpacks on the tables

    This video does NOT prove in any way:
    - the number of executed,
    - the connection of the roaming hero with the explosion of the dining room
    - his suicide

    IE to us again - showing proven
    (true only if the video is reasonably true,
    not fake) killing one or two people -
    vparivayut something much, much more
    1. Altona
      Altona 23 October 2018 17: 59
      0
      Quote: aristok
      IE to us again - showing proven
      (true only if the video is reasonably true,
      not fake) killing one or two people -
      vparivayut something much, much more

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      Pavel, read my comments today, October 23rd. What do you think?
  23. Examenatornick
    Examenatornick 22 October 2018 17: 07
    +1
    what we want about a society where things like "last call" from Oxymoron are popular.
    such things are in the public domain and attract large audiences.


    it’s necessary to ban it. I’m even for censorship. You can’t show it to teenagers.
  24. Enky
    Enky 23 October 2018 09: 51
    +3
    Quote: Silvestr
    Quote: Tatiana
    The video was needed just for this - for video control over his willingness to fulfill the crime he had conceived.

    many are already sure that he is not a loner. The main thing is that SK believes in it

    Honestly, after watching all the photos and videos, it is even surprising that there are people who still believe in such a single-minded goal ...
  25. Enky
    Enky 23 October 2018 10: 04
    +2
    Quote: Stirbjorn
    An interesting fact was noted by Potapenko the other day - if Roslyakov were shot in the head with his shotgun loaded with buckshot, then, at best, only part of the lower jaw would remain from the head, and the photo shows that the head is intact. So think for yourself ... and then there’s this video, with obvious surveillance

    Pay attention, as soon as a person pays attention to inconsistencies and asks the right questions, how they immediately begin to neglect him and take away the topic of ah-sighs about modern youth ... Well, and the most interesting - to 2 branches about Kerch, not a single question-suggestion to whom it was beneficial.
  26. Enky
    Enky 23 October 2018 10: 25
    +2
    Quote: Pavil144
    Soplyakov and a weakling, unable to solve their problems, took up the barrel and decided that others were to blame for his problems. I don’t think that he had accomplices, he himself prepared everything and watched the video about Columbine.

    Snot and weaklings are sitting on the couch and throwing mud at opponents via the Internet, here you can clearly note: determination, composure, prudence - cleared all contacts to hide traces, there is obvious psychological and tactical special training, and not shooting at banks in wasteland .
  27. Enky
    Enky 23 October 2018 10: 29
    +2
    Quote: Ramzaj99
    It was immediately clear that one person is not capable of this. He was clearly helped, he was clearly trained to be automatic (to charge the pump with shaking hands, he also had hemorrhoids), he was psychologically trained, he shoots very well, judging by the result, he has excellent command of mine explosive training. Rambo is direct and not a student. And now it turns out that he was led. There clearly could not have been without the creatures of a neighboring country ......

    Why think about creatures from a neighboring country? If you wonder who benefits from this, then a neighboring country automatically pops up as a scapegoat, however, there were few obvious blunders in the action and they preferred the story of a maniac alone.
    1. Altona
      Altona 23 October 2018 18: 01
      +1
      Quote: Enky
      however, apparently there were few noticeable mistakes in the action and they preferred the story of a maniac alone.

      ------------------------
      Alexei, Roslyakov is our version of Lee Harvey Oswald apparently. Cui prodest?
  28. kakvastam
    kakvastam 23 October 2018 10: 50
    +2
    The authorities and law enforcement have concerns

    Are they completely fucked up?
    To bury such kovs only in nameless graves, so that not a trace of them remains!
    God forbid there are still "admirers", they will begin to arrange pilgrimages ...
  29. Mihail28
    Mihail28 23 October 2018 12: 37
    0
    It is not necessary to mention the name of this person, but NON-people. His name should be deleted from the memory of mankind. Thug, nonhumans - whatever you like, but after it should not be saved either a name or a surname.
  30. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 23 October 2018 12: 52
    0
    There are some inconsistencies, in particular, after a self-shoot, the shooter's head floor should be absent, especially after using such a weapon
  31. tank64rus
    tank64rus 23 October 2018 17: 12
    +3
    Do it all i.e. about 100 people were injured; 21 of them were killed in a while; let it be 8 minutes, this is not real without the actions of accomplices. Even Rimbaud did not reach this.
    1. Altona
      Altona 23 October 2018 18: 06
      +2
      Quote: tank64rus
      Do it all i.e. about 100 people were injured; 21 of them were killed in a while; let it be 8 minutes, this is not real without the actions of accomplices. Even Rimbaud did not reach this.

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      Many of us write that if you live at a shooting range, you can barely distort the hot barrel like a bench shooting champion, at any age. And by the way, many people think that 12 gauge is less than 16, and not vice versa.
  32. wax
    wax 23 October 2018 18: 39
    0
    He was under tight control.
  33. Qwertyarion
    Qwertyarion 24 October 2018 11: 03
    0
    If we assume that the ghoul fulfilled the task set by someone, then really, to whom can it be beneficial? Who is the potential beneficiary of what happened?