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New Chinese spacecraft will fly next year

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China continues the systematic development of its own space program. 2018 October, the Celestial is a leader in the number of starts. 27 25 against its nearest competitor in the face of the United States. In the Russian Federation, for example, 10 launches, of which one was unsuccessful (Soyuz-FG with the Soyuz MS-10).


Already next year (2019), it is planned to launch into orbit a full-size model of a manned transport ship of a new generation of heavy-duty carrier SZ-5B (Changzheng-5, Great Velocity-5). This missile has a lifting capacity in tons 25 the low reference orbit. SZ-5B first flew in 2016 year. Of the two starts, one ended in failure.

In 2015, for the first time, information appeared about the beginning of work on replacing clones of the Soyuz, Shenzhou ships, which by that time 16 had already served years (since the first flight in 1999) for the Taikonauts. In 2016, a scaled model of the descent vehicle was launched on the SZ-7 rocket into orbit to test the operation of the landing system, separation systems, parachutes and the reliability of the heat shield.




Orion and Federation


In the original appearance sketches, the outlines of the Orion spacecraft being developed by NASA were guessed. In the latest published pictures, the new workhorse of the Chinese space industry has much more in common with the Russian “Federation” (at least, judging by the concepts of Roskosmos).

Match and declared by the China National Space Administration (CNSA) goals. Like the American, and Russian ship, the nameless spacecraft must be reusable and fly to asteroids and the moon. To carry out deep space research, it is planned to develop a larger service module. This will bring up a launch weight with 14 to 20 tons. Capacity - from 2 to 6 people.

From 2020, with the help of SZ-5B, China plans to start building a new national orbital station. In the future, for flights of a prospective ship to the Moon, the development of an extra-heavy SZ-9 rocket is planned.

New Chinese spacecraft will fly next year



The constantly shifting schedule of work on the Federation and a new super heavyweight carrier rocket capable of delivering people to our satellite orbit, as well as the ongoing flow of problems in the Russian space industry, coupled with the difficulties in implementing the Orion program from NASA, can create conditions under which China can get ahead of all other countries in space exploration.
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  1. Snail N9
    Snail N9 22 October 2018 06: 16
    +22
    Yah? No no no. Now the "patriots of the site" have done with us "for the whole day" it will be "bad", but they must go to work. Chinese reliability leaves much to be desired, this is all Chinese propaganda "..... and add" about "Americans": "Americans, astronautics, in fact, do not have, Americans do not fly into space themselves, we have RD-180, and Musk - "pasta monster" .... - then the "patriot" will be in good shape all day, which will have a positive effect on colleagues at work.
    1. pru-pavel
      pru-pavel 22 October 2018 06: 21
      +3
      For so it has been instituted in Russia from time immemorial.
      For your truth is in your mouth.
      May your firs not run dry on the heads of the faithful patriots of the native Fatherland.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 22 October 2018 07: 32
        +22
        So imperceptibly, suddenly we lose the primacy in the last great reserve that we got from the USSR. Somehow everyone got used to it, that Cosmos (the pinnacle of scientific and technological progress) is our everything, and that since the time of the Union we have been a cut above Americans (not to mention the Chinese!). And the most unpleasant thing is that the prospects for the future are vague.
        With that level of funding is no longer catch up. Moreover, the lag will only increase.
        This failure is another detail that vividly characterizes the outcome of the infinitely long reign of an unchanging Putin. Soon there will be nothing left to be proud of ... well, except for the notorious getting up from your knees.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 22 October 2018 08: 33
          +11
          There is a clear picture for 13 years of how much countries spend on space. Although five years have passed, the spending ratio is not getting better for Russia. If in the year 13 Russia spent 4,5 billion, then in the year 16 it was 3,18 billion dollars. On the face, a cut in the space budget by 1/3. Miracles do not happen, if spending on the industry is much less than what today's leaders do, then an even greater lag is ensured.
          1. Snail N9
            Snail N9 22 October 2018 09: 07
            +3
            On the face, a cut in the space budget by 1/3. Miracles do not happen, if spending on the industry is much less than what today's leaders do, then an even greater lag is ensured.

            You "misplaced" the emphasis in your comment below the above graph. It should be like this: "Russia, despite the sanctions and the impending global crisis, in 2016 spent as much as $ 3,18 billion on the space industry. This allowed it to take the honorable fourth place in the top five in spending on the space program. But look at Ukraine. - what a miserable situation this country is in, with its ridiculous space budget ... Ukraine has lost ... it will never have ... "- well, further - according to Kiselev and Solovyov ... ... wink laughing
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 22 October 2018 15: 57
              +8
              Quote: Snail N9
              You "misplaced" the emphasis in your comment below the graph below. It should be like this: “Despite the sanctions and the impending global crisis, Russia spent as much as $ 2016 billion on the space industry in 3,18. This allowed it to take the honorable fourth place in the top five in spending on the space program.
              Is it such sarcasm? The fourth grade is not a marriage?
              The first three countries are engaged in research, and we are eating the legacy of the USSR: there are no intelligible programs, no new developments. Or do not you see that China is catching up, the US is moving to a different level, ESA is formed from a handful of countries?
              Quote: Snail N9
              But look at Ukraine
              Is there anyone to follow?
        2. Normal ok
          Normal ok 22 October 2018 09: 12
          +5
          Quote: Stas157
          So imperceptibly, suddenly we lose the primacy in the last great reserve,

          The problem is that we do not "lose imperceptibly", but we have already lost and this is very noticeable.
        3. Setrac
          Setrac 22 October 2018 21: 11
          +2
          Quote: Stas157
          So imperceptibly, suddenly we lose the primacy in the last great reserve that we got from the USSR.

          This is inevitable, while astronautics was a "race of minds" we were winning, but now that rocket technologies have been sufficiently developed, this is already a "race of economies" and the economies of China and the United States are many times larger than ours. Our leadership can only be saved by a fundamental breakthrough, such as nuclear engines.
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 22 October 2018 06: 30
      +4
      Now the "patriots of the site" have done "badly" for the whole day, and they have to go to work.


      smile I’m a patriot of the site ... I’m going to work.
      But I’ll say about the Chinese ... these guys will go far ... for they don’t suffer from assault and sloppiness in their cosmonautics and they have big plans ... if this goes on soon and our country will have to purchase equipment for our cosmonautics from the Chinese .. .maybe even our cosmonauts will be launched on their ships ... the trend is obvious.
      1. For example
        For example 22 October 2018 07: 30
        -4
        Quote: Snail N9
        then the "patriot" will be in good shape all day,

        Yes, you have a complex, my friend. laughing
        After all, it is you who rushing somewhere to the side of this news.
        Recharged? No wonder. love

        Hatred and envy do not lead to good. wink
      2. astepanov
        astepanov 22 October 2018 10: 59
        +15
        There are points of no return, after which it is impossible to catch up with competitors, how not to push. Russia may have already passed this point. For thirty years, from 57 to 87 years, a lot was done: the first satellite, and the first cosmonaut, and the first automata to the Moon, Venus, Mars, and the super-heavy "Energy" ... Over the next 30 years, NOTHING was done. Maybe someone will explain where the wasted billions went? Well, we don't have astronautics. It is not we who fly to the Churryumov-Gerasimenko comet, not our Hubble, Webb and others telescopes that look at the stars, not our rovers crawling on the red planet for years and get amazing results, we did not land on Titan, we did not fly to Jupiter, Saturn, Mercury, Pluto, asteroids ... We are in the big cosmonautics - a corpse, past which the USA, China, Japan and Europe have already passed. Our destiny is to drive, deliver the Americans and other Chinese to the ISS. So maybe it was worth using this money for retirement, or building a bridge to Sakhalin, or treating children, and not begging for money for operations for them through zombie boxes? And isn't it time, finally, to ask someone with passion: "Where is the money, Zin?"
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        2. Setrac
          Setrac 22 October 2018 21: 15
          0
          Quote: astepanov
          There are points of no return, after which competitors can no longer catch up, how not to push.

          This is all nonsense. Someone will come up with new engines on which rockets can fly into space without any stages and repeatedly, and all these "rocket technologies, which have been worked out for decades," will suddenly become useless to anyone.
          1. astepanov
            astepanov 22 October 2018 21: 40
            +1
            Quote: Setrac
            Someone will come up with new engines on which rockets can fly into space without any steps and repeatedly

            New engines will certainly be. Only the education system in modern Russia leaves no hope that these will be our engines. The USSR was almost chewed up, and since the time of Glushko, Korolev, Chelomei nothing new has been invented. If you think otherwise - give examples.
            By the way, the start from Earth for a long time - if not always - will be carried out on chemical engines.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 22 October 2018 22: 10
              0
              Quote: astepanov
              The USSR was almost chewed up, and since the time of Glushko, Korolev, Chelomei nothing new has been invented.

              If they said A, speak and B. Since the time of Zander and Tsiolkovsky nothing new has been invented by all these Korolevs and Browns. Mask also did not come up with anything new - and liberals applaud him as messiahs.
              Quote: astepanov
              By the way, the start from Earth for a long time - if not always - will be carried out on chemical engines.

              Until this happens, we will not fly beyond the orbit.
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 22 October 2018 22: 20
                0
                Quote: Setrac
                Since the time of Zander and Tsiolkovsky, nothing new has been invented by all of these Korolevs and Browns.
                Fundamentally new is not really invented. But a great number of technical incarnations were made, and it was in Soviet times. In the post-Soviet time, they were only getting rid of money - but where are the results? Do not try to remember: there, as gynecologists say, they are not there either.
                Quote: Setrac
                Until this happens, we will not fly beyond the orbit.
                Uh, drop it. Have you heard about the electric transport system? It is impossible to take off from the Earth on it, but deep space is the very thing.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 22 October 2018 22: 23
                  -1
                  Quote: astepanov
                  Fundamentally new is not really invented.

                  For example, nuclear engines.
                  Quote: astepanov
                  Do not try to remember: there, as gynecologists say, they are not there either.

                  Your gynecologists are mistaken
                  1. astepanov
                    astepanov 22 October 2018 22: 31
                    +1
                    Do you not understand that it is impossible to start from Earth on nuclear engines? And can you imagine the consequences of a reactor accident with tons of enriched uranium and fission products? Fukushima seems like a childish prank.
                    By the way, missiles with nuclear engines have been engaged in the USSR since the mid-50s: this is about the backlog of the USSR and the "novelty" of such developments. However, google yourself: YARD.
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 22 October 2018 22: 35
                      -1
                      Quote: astepanov
                      Do you not understand that it is impossible to start from Earth on nuclear engines?

                      You can build a spaceport in Australia or in Antarctica.
                      Quote: astepanov
                      And can you imagine the consequences of a reactor accident with tons of enriched uranium and fission products?

                      Where do the tons come from? You need to be more modest.
                      Quote: astepanov
                      By the way, missiles with nuclear engines have been engaged in the USSR since the mid-50s: this is about the backlog of the USSR and the "novelty" of such developments. However, google yourself: YARD.

                      The first missiles were invented by the Chinese thousands of years ago, what does this have to do with it?
    3. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 22 October 2018 06: 35
      +2
      Quote: Snail N9
      Yah? No no no. Now ......
      Essentially nothing to say?
      Lucky the Chinese. Higher teachers helped them to start aviation in a backward country, participated in the defense of China ----- fought in the same ranks. Soviet people, USSR.
    4. shamil
      shamil 22 October 2018 06: 39
      -2
      It should be philosophical. So far no one can fly to the moon because of the ionosphere and cosmos. radiation. The Chinese apparatus becomes similar to Orion, and Orion gradually took on a form close to the descent module of the Allies. Without Russia, not a single step towards the moon.
      Well, Musk is nothing new, except for different toys for PR.
      1. Tsoy
        22 October 2018 07: 51
        0
        The Chinese apparatus becomes similar to Orion, and Orion gradually took the form close to the descent module of the Union. Without Russia, not a single step towards the moon.
        Well, Musk is nothing new, except for different toys for PR.


        The Chinese apparatus is indistinguishable from the Federation, as described in the article and written. Orion is close to the descent module of Apollo. Well, Musk creates toys for public relations, which do what no one in the world does, but is going to. The same Bezos will follow the path of the steps being returned, as will the Russian Federation with the project a continuation of the ideas of Baikal.
        1. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher 22 October 2018 08: 35
          +6
          Quote: Choi
          Well, Musk creates toys for PR

          Tricky question.
          Three companies are developing the spacecraft, L, B and S.
          Company L has been developing KK for 12 years, having spent about 15 billion budget dollars and will spend 2023 billion dollars on KK until 20,4.
          Company B has been developing the QC for 8 years, having received 4,8 billion dollars from the treasury.
          Company S has been developing QC for 6 years, having received $ 3,06 billion from the budget.
          Please answer the question of whose spacecraft will make the first manned flight and which company is headed by I. Musk.
          1. shamil
            shamil 22 October 2018 18: 18
            -2
            I have not heard a rebuttal from Putin's words from anyone - there is no place in space for a protein cage. This is diplomatic, but simply no one will be the first on the moon in the next decade. Here is a robot Fedor a good candidate!
        2. shamil
          shamil 22 October 2018 18: 19
          -2
          This they began with a copy of Apollo. And then the circuit becomes similar to the Union.
          1. Topgun
            Topgun 22 October 2018 23: 24
            +2
            which circuit? what form of alliances? sorry but you write such nonsense now ...
            all this is exactly what accuse modern firms that make airplanes that they copy the shape of the plane of the Wright brothers ... the shape of the ships is dictated by aerodynamics and it is "similar"
    5. KLV2018
      KLV2018 22 October 2018 08: 56
      +5
      the Chinese have an apparatus, and the Roskosmos has a concept.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 22 October 2018 22: 03
        -1
        Quote: KLV2018
        the Chinese have an apparatus, and the Roskosmos has a concept.

        First was the word ...
  2. Snail N9
    Snail N9 22 October 2018 07: 05
    +3
    And here, about the Chinese program of lighting their cities from space. http://asn.in.ua/ru/news/news/181569-kitajjcy-zapustjat-iskusstvennuju-lunu-v-2020-go.html
    https://pronedra.ru/v-kitae-k-2022-godu-zapustyat-iskusstvennuyu-lunu-302488.html
    Immediately I say, "patriots" are better off not reading. And if you read, you constantly repeat the prayer to yourself: "Chur the accursed me. Save me and save rd-180. Do not leave me from your plans" Federation "..." Federation "," Federation "," Federation "... . "
  3. Hole puncher
    Hole puncher 22 October 2018 08: 15
    +1
    In the initial appearance sketches, the outlines of the NASA Orion spacecraft developed by NASA were guessed.

    In the latest published pictures, the new workhorse of the Chinese cosmonautics has much more in common with the Russian "Federation"

    And what did they see in common? More on the CST-100 Starliner is similar.
    1. Tsoy
      22 October 2018 09: 24
      +1
      And what did they see in common? More on the CST-100 Starliner is similar.


      Yes, they are almost the same. Differences only in dimension. And so all the cones.
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher 22 October 2018 09: 40
        0
        Quote: Choi
        And so all the cones.

        China is still far from being implemented, the Federation has more chances than the Chinese apparatus, so the drawings are only a tentative concept, as no one knows in kind.
  4. akudr48
    akudr48 22 October 2018 08: 59
    +1
    The constantly shifting schedule of work on the Federation and a new super heavyweight carrier rocket capable of delivering people to our satellite orbit, as well as the ongoing flow of problems in the Russian space industry, coupled with the difficulties in implementing the Orion program from NASA, can create conditions under which China can get ahead of all other countries in space exploration.

    How gracefully the author portrayed the state of our cosmic affairs!
    a) work in Russia is going on, but it’s shifting, but most importantly, it’s going on, and if it’s going on, then it will come, someday, because we have someone to lead space
    b) and the adversary with "Orion" has difficulties (although there is not only Orion), we are not alone behind, but together with the Americans, which is honorable
    c) but these are just the conditions under which China can get ahead (or maybe not get ahead) of all other countries (us and the USA) in space

    Smoothly so, with Russia and Russia, it looks worthy against the background of the Chinese and Americans, after all the deafening failures, thanks to the author, I cheered ...
    1. Tsoy
      22 October 2018 09: 28
      0
      and the adversary with "Orion" has difficulties (although there is not only Orion), we are not alone behind, but together with the Americans, which is honorable


      With the ability to fly to the moon only Orion. Lunar Dregon seems to have, but it seems not. All other Boeings and Dream Chasers will graze only at orbit.
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher 22 October 2018 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Choi
        With the ability to fly to the moon only Orion.

        The fate of Orion is directly dependent on the SLS, but not everything is obvious there.
      2. shamil
        shamil 22 October 2018 18: 21
        0
        And what is the opportunity? Is there radiation protection?
  5. Gray brother
    Gray brother 22 October 2018 09: 18
    0
    Well done Chinese. Glad for them.
  6. prior
    prior 22 October 2018 09: 41
    +7
    Practice confirms that space is not needed for a gas station.
    1. aristok
      aristok 22 October 2018 16: 43
      +2
      Quote: prior
      Practice confirms that space is not needed for a gas station.

      Why slander?
      Where have you seen a gas station selling crude oil?
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 22 October 2018 22: 04
      -2
      Quote: prior
      Practice confirms that space is not needed for a gas station.

      How does this relate to the topic of the article?
      Minus for flood
  7. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 22 October 2018 11: 43
    +1
    How many China launched the astronauts and how much on average do they work at the station?
    1. konstantin68
      konstantin68 22 October 2018 18: 59
      0
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      How many China launched the astronauts and how much on average do they work at the station?

      But nobody cares! They wrote that China is ahead, then ahead! In Russia, everything is bad!
  8. 1536
    1536 22 October 2018 12: 00
    0
    Good luck to the Chinese taekwonauts! We are glad that our oil and gas fell on fertile Chinese soil and made progress, and did not disappear in Britain.