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Preparing for war? US Navy Report on Sea Transport

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In the USA, the report of the Navy, sent to the members of the US Congress, is fragmentary published. The report states that “if the US is ready to fight and improve its security,” then it is necessary to pay attention to problems with transport ships that (ships) can be used including for transporting troops and equipment. The text of the report indicates that through the 10 years, the US Navy will face a significant "modernization crisis", as today there is a rapid decline in the equipment of large-capacity transport reserve ships.


Preparing for war? US Navy Report on Sea Transport


From the report, which was published in the American media:
We are already facing the need for large expenses for the repair and maintenance of this segment fleetlack of staff. The bulk of such ships in 2028 will exchange the sixth decade.


It is also noted that together with a decrease in the number of transport ships, the decrease in the number of escort submarines will inevitably be recorded. Nothing will accompany ...

To date, the state-owned ships of the segment under consideration: 26 of the Sealift Command ships (MSC, KMP, US Shipping Command), including repositioning ships, 46 of the Reserve Force (RRF) ships and also 15 of MSC ships of a separate loading-unloading class.



It is added that many RRF ships today operate on obsolete engines. And by the middle of 2030-ies, as stated in the report, the situation without modernization will be reduced to the fact that the power plants finally cease to meet the requirements, and the total tonnage of sea transport workers will be about half of the real need.

All these statements could be perceived as an internal affair of the United States with the regular desire of servicemen to knock out additional funding. But in fact, everything is much more alarming. The other day, 46% of the polled American military said that they did not rule out that the United States would get involved in a major war in the coming years. Almost every second! A year ago, this figure was almost an order of magnitude less.

For reference: MSC (KMP) ships - combat support ships, ships for maritime transport, support ships, ships for performing special tasks, as well as the mentioned repositioning ships - support for a group of ships-warehouses with constant presence on board of weapons and equipment.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 21 October 2018 08: 59
    +7
    that they do not exclude the possibility that the United States will engage in a major war in the coming years. Almost every second! A year ago, this figure was almost an order of magnitude less.
    Well, now it is clear why Putin has recently begun to shower with warnings in the spirit of Kim Jong-un. Reasonable buzzwords don't reach partners. It’s too late to warn you. And at the expense of the Americans With the adoption of the Poseidon in our arsenal, from which ports are you going to carry bulk cargo? And in which ones to unload? bully repeat
    1. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 21 October 2018 09: 06
      -4
      Quote: Observer2014
      that they do not exclude the possibility that the United States will engage in a major war in the coming years. Almost every second! A year ago, this figure was almost an order of magnitude less.
      Well, now it is clear why Putin has recently begun to shower with warnings in the spirit of Kim Jong-un. Reasonable buzzwords don't reach partners. It’s too late to warn you. And at the expense of the Americans With the adoption of the Poseidon in our arsenal, from which ports are you going to carry bulk cargo? And in which ones to unload? bully repeat

      Do not carry nonsense, where is he your this poiseidon?
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 21 October 2018 09: 09
        -4
        Vol4ara (Alexander
        Do not carry nonsense, where is he your this poiseidon?
        You are like that joke. “Daddy where is the sea?” Here it is, son! Where? Dad face in the sea son fool Yes, here it is !!! Here !!! Sonny Diving Where? laughing
        1. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 21 October 2018 09: 24
          -9
          Quote: Observer2014
          Vol4ara (Alexander
          Do not carry nonsense, where is he your this poiseidon?
          You are like that joke. “Daddy where is the sea?” Here it is, son! Where? Dad face in the sea son fool Yes, here it is !!! Here !!! Sonny Diving Where? laughing

          Cartoons decided to show me? I know another joke when in 41 hat-takers wanted to fight with little blood on a foreign land, and lost 11,5 million people
          1. 210ox
            210ox 21 October 2018 09: 38
            +8
            Yes, of course. For you all cartoons. And this "Poseidon", even if it is personally you will not be shown. And they will do the right thing.
          2. Fedorov
            Fedorov 21 October 2018 09: 44
            +10
            And they occupied half of Europe, besides, they changed the whole world politics. Well, the cartoon was right.
            And honor the memory of the dead. hi
            1. NordUral
              NordUral 21 October 2018 12: 15
              +4
              It is necessary to honor the memory of the dead without bragging, or even simply empty talk, of new ones.
          3. igorka357
            igorka357 21 October 2018 10: 45
            +1
            And they ended up in the capital of the enemy, with the latest and best weapons of those times! Do you know such a story, or did the Americans take Berlin in your brain, and did they defeat fascism?
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 21 October 2018 11: 55
              -6
              Quote: igorka357
              And they ended up in the capital of the enemy, with the latest and best weapons of those times! Do you know such a story, or did the Americans take Berlin in your brain, and did they defeat fascism?

              Because of the idiocy, the leadership was taken, if it were not for the idiotic pre-war policy, then either it did not have to be taken, due to the lack of aggression, or the war would really have ended quickly and with little blood. But because of the idiots who think the Germans are fools, we have what we have - mountains of corpses. And now I see the same thing, mountains of idiots, whose Americans are "well, stupid", which in the future can turn into mountains of corpses
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 21 October 2018 13: 04
                +3
                Quote: Vol4ara
                But because of the idiots who imagined the Germans were fools, we have what we have - mountains of corpses.

                We have a "mountain of corpses" thanks to the United States - they restored the military industry of the Third Reich, brought the Nazis to power and sent them to the east.
            2. Rzzz
              Rzzz 22 October 2018 12: 55
              0
              The Americans took Berlin. Only not in the 45th year, but in 1990.
          4. Setrac
            Setrac 21 October 2018 13: 01
            0
            Quote: Vol4ara
            I know another joke when in 41 hat-takers wanted to fight with little blood on a foreign land, and lost 11,5 million people

            It is sad that this is a joke for you, rejoice at the death of 11 million Russians!
          5. cradle
            cradle 22 October 2018 07: 46
            -1
            combat losses of about 8 million ... comparable to the east axis countries. front
        2. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 21 October 2018 10: 51
          -2
          Cartoons do not equip the Navy.
      2. SeregaBoss
        SeregaBoss 21 October 2018 09: 16
        0
        Poiseidon drags you to the bottom.
        And "Poseidon" is in good hands where it is necessary and from whom it is necessary, and they will definitely not ask your advice.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 21 October 2018 10: 52
          -2
          Poseidon is present only in cartoons.
      3. sabakina
        sabakina 21 October 2018 09: 16
        +6
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Do not carry nonsense, where is he your this poiseidon?
        Why are you interested in?
      4. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 21 October 2018 09: 28
        +16

        Do not carry nonsense, where is he your this poiseidon
        Well, there is no "Poseidon" ... Calm down. And the Russian NSW has long been rusty in the mines, and there is no "Dagger", and our army drinks soundly and plunders the remains from the warehouses ... Is that normal? And why are the Yankees fussing about then?
        1. Fedorov
          Fedorov 21 October 2018 09: 57
          +2
          They also have fun not childishly. smile
        2. denart50
          denart50 21 October 2018 11: 58
          0
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          And why then are the Yankees fussing?


          Well Duc ... They are afraid of the negative influence from the sanctioned "partners" ... What if the American fighters will be spoiled and decomposed?
          PS Following the example of fraternities during the First World War ... lol
        3. Vol4ara
          Vol4ara 21 October 2018 12: 17
          -6
          Quote: Mountain Shooter

          Do not carry nonsense, where is he your this poiseidon
          Well, there is no "Poseidon" ... Calm down. And the Russian NSW has long been rusty in the mines, and there is no "Dagger", and our army drinks soundly and plunders the remains from the warehouses ... Is that normal? And why are the Yankees fussing about then?

          There is no poiseidon, they just don’t show it, they show a dagger, they even sell it with 400, they show 57, and the poiseidon is just very secret, very good! And in our army there is neither alcoholism nor theft, Dagi and Russians in the army are best friends, and the commissioning of the surface fleet is simply amazing! Yes, we’ll chop these Americans with checkers, they’re stupid, but we don’t need any armata, we won’t build them, we don’t need them to fight fools! That's better?
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 21 October 2018 12: 41
            -2
            Poseidon, Dagger, Avant-garde empty empty bragging, and horror stories designed for simpletons who did not learn physics for a high school course.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 21 October 2018 13: 07
              +2
              Quote: gunnerminer
              Poseidon, Dagger, Vanguard empty empty bragging

              The Americans over in the cartoons flew to the Moon, were about to fly to Mars ... in cartoons, why do you not like our cartoons?
              1. Vol4ara
                Vol4ara 21 October 2018 13: 34
                -4
                Quote: Setrac
                Quote: gunnerminer
                Poseidon, Dagger, Vanguard empty empty bragging

                The Americans over in the cartoons flew to the Moon, were about to fly to Mars ... in cartoons, why do you not like our cartoons?

                Their cartoons are confirmed by data from the satellites of the moon, but ours are not
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 21 October 2018 21: 31
                  -1
                  Quote: Vol4ara
                  Their cartoons are confirmed by data from the satellites of the moon, but ours are not

                  You to another branch, there, witnesses of the flight of the Americans to the moon pray to their overseas deity.
                  True, this old branch dates back to the month of January.
              2. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 21 October 2018 13: 53
                -3
                Their data was confirmed by technical means. Cartoons from March 1, and cartoons remained.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 21 October 2018 21: 32
                  -1
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  Their data was confirmed by technical means. Cartoons from March 1, and cartoons remained.

                  You to another branch, there, witnesses of the flight of the Americans to the moon pray to their overseas deity.
                  True, this old branch dates back to the month of January.
          2. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 21 October 2018 14: 02
            +3
            Quote: Vol4ara
            That's better?

            Better is better. And more fun. laughing How many funny freshman appeared. fellow And everything would be fine, they just work stereotypedly - old schemes, classic congresses. This time, however, the puncture came out - they forgot about pensions. yes
            1. Vol4ara
              Vol4ara 21 October 2018 16: 17
              -4
              Quote: Paranoid50
              Quote: Vol4ara
              That's better?

              Better is better. And more fun. laughing How many funny freshman appeared. fellow And everything would be fine, they just work stereotypedly - old schemes, classic congresses. This time, however, the puncture came out - they forgot about pensions. yes

              Yeah, and I also forgot about "you hold on there", it's all the inventions of terrorists and ukrohunty. And about the fact that 20 yachts of top managers and officials of the Russian Federation are more expensive than the adopted fleet for 10 years. Everything, like in the manual, there is nothing more, tomorrow I will receive a salary and instructions in the State Department, and I will write something else.
        4. cradle
          cradle 22 October 2018 07: 46
          0
          yes purely under the fuss.
      5. Svarog
        Svarog 21 October 2018 09: 33
        +5
        Quote: Vol4ara
        Quote: Observer2014
        that they do not exclude the possibility that the United States will engage in a major war in the coming years. Almost every second! A year ago, this figure was almost an order of magnitude less.
        Well, now it is clear why Putin has recently begun to shower with warnings in the spirit of Kim Jong-un. Reasonable buzzwords don't reach partners. It’s too late to warn you. And at the expense of the Americans With the adoption of the Poseidon in our arsenal, from which ports are you going to carry bulk cargo? And in which ones to unload? bully repeat

        Do not carry nonsense, where is he your this poiseidon?

        About a rocket with a nuclear engine is a fairy tale .. And Poseidon, I’m sure that there is ...
        1. Fedorov
          Fedorov 21 October 2018 10: 19
          +2
          It was created in the 70s in the United States with a nuclear engine, but very expensive. The project was closed. In the Internet there is a lot of information with photos, etc. And at a new technological level (and no one disputes the championship of Russia in nuclear energy) - easily. SHE IS !
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 21 October 2018 11: 01
          +8
          Quote: Svarog
          About a rocket with a nuclear engine is a fairy tale ..

          Putin is not at that age for a long time, and his position is not such that he can tell "fairy tales" from the big screen to the whole world. In addition to 238U and 239 Pl, there is a large group of transuranic elements, the use of which most citizens do not even suspect.
          So, to talk in vain, at the risk of his reputation, the GDP would not. That's for sure.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 21 October 2018 11: 13
            +8
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Putin is not at that age for a long time, and his position is not such that he can tell "fairy tales" from the big screen to the whole world.

            Well, here I would argue with you ... Putin told a lot of tales ..

            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            So, in vain to chat, risking his reputation, the GDP would not. That's for sure

            Reputation? Of course, the concept is subjective, but in my opinion, Putin’s reputation is significantly undermined ..
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 21 October 2018 12: 17
            +4
            Reputation? ...
          3. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 21 October 2018 12: 39
            -1
            -So, I wouldn’t begin to chat in vain, risking my reputation with GDP. That's for sure.-

            25 million jobs with a technological breakthrough. Complete victory over ISIS at the Syrian bridgehead. The program he announced at the beginning of the first term, and the progress of its implementation.
          4. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 21 October 2018 12: 40
            -4
            - In addition to 238U and 239 Pl there is a large group -

            A significant ambush with reconnaissance, target designation and the number of combat-ready carriers. As well as the dubious degree of technical readiness of warheads.
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 21 October 2018 13: 09
              +2
              Quote: gunnerminer
              Significant ambush with reconnaissance, target designation

              Yeah, Washington will leave the line of fire moving sharply in space.
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 21 October 2018 13: 56
                -3
                It has maneuvering capabilities provided by a single information space, provided with a mass of heavy UAVs, a mass of ships, its own and vassals. As well as intelligence agencies around the world, and their vassals. With the intelligence agencies, including. RF, and Navy.
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 21 October 2018 21: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Washington will leave the line of fire moving sharply in space

                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  He has the ability to maneuver

                  Brilliant, comments are unnecessary.
          5. Brylevsky
            Brylevsky 22 October 2018 07: 04
            -1
            What's the minus, buddy? Didn't he say that there will be no increase in the retirement age? And he said a lot of other things, I don't want to remember ... Putin's current reputation now rests on the bayonets of his National Guard and the most stubborn "patriots". And I once voted for this man .... how naive I was! He is leading our country to catastrophe, it's only a matter of time. It seems that you have not yet realized the full horror of our situation ...
            1. cradle
              cradle 22 October 2018 07: 49
              +1
              I’ll pay you for the cut! belay
      6. stalki
        stalki 21 October 2018 10: 48
        -2
        So they told you where
      7. Rostislav
        Rostislav 21 October 2018 11: 00
        0
        And who instructed you to find out?
      8. Ros 56
        Ros 56 21 October 2018 11: 29
        +1
        This mystery is great, and you do not know the bourgeoisie forever, until he comes to visit you.
    2. Maclay
      Maclay 21 October 2018 09: 10
      +3
      Quote: Observer2014
      Well, now it’s clear why Putin has recently started pouring warnings in the spirit of Kim Jong-un

      Eun is far from Putin ... Volodya just spoke about the eternal and that's it! In the West, this is perfectly understood ..
    3. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 21 October 2018 10: 51
      -4
      Before the adoption of Poseidon’s armament, it’s like the moon on the donkey. It will take several years to develop its combat use. Yes, and with the means to ensure it is ambushed.
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 21 October 2018 09: 02
    +5
    Yes, the Yankees have enough supply vessels. Another thing is that the part is put into reserve. When a serious war is declared, not only obsolete ships can be put back into operation, but also a lot of civilian ships of the required class are called up to the fleet according to mobplanes. With relatively small and quick finishing touches, they may well be involved in providing the fleet.
    Therefore, the current nagging is rather calculated on the next cut of the budget.
    Compared to our USO, the US is still ultramodern request
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 October 2018 09: 23
    +5
    This is not even the transportation of troops to Europe. This is the navy support fleet. Supply vessels mostly. And the nuclear submarines were going to cover them? Clancy's been reading for the night? Red Storm? And I kept wondering where our "diesels" are doing in such quantities. And they will block the Atlantic! In the best traditions of Dönitz? Do Americans DO NOT BELIEVE in Russia's use of strategic nuclear weapons? Are they counting on a long war?
  4. askort154
    askort154 21 October 2018 09: 39
    0
    "..... in 10 years, the US Navy will face a significant "modernization crisis", since today there is a rapid decline in the equipment of large-tonnage transport reserve ships ... "

    You will soon understand another problem for the United States - the "problem of the Arctic", where they have lagged behind Russia for decades, in building an icebreaker fleet. yes
  5. olgen
    olgen 21 October 2018 09: 42
    +1
    it they began to worry about what if it is otsedova row it will be
  6. smart ass
    smart ass 21 October 2018 09: 43
    0
    Russian Navy would have such problems
    1. Berkut24
      Berkut24 21 October 2018 10: 37
      +4
      Everyone has their own problems. We have a defense fleet, the USA has an expeditionary fleet. This means that the naval battle in its modern concept will occur far from the United States, but for us it is close to our shore. Instead of missile cruisers, we will have coastal missile systems and aviation, and instead of aircraft carriers, more comfortable coastal airfields. Instead of sea transporters, the railway and transport aircraft. Plus a system of warehouses and arsenals on land.
      1. Vladivostok1969
        Vladivostok1969 21 October 2018 13: 57
        +3
        Twenty-seven years ago, cable layers Tavda, Ingul, Katun regularly came to Vladivostok. Egorlyk Tankers, Boris Butoma, Tagil. There were always 27-2 SS (rescue vessel). The mass of numbered tugs and self-propelled barges. This all and not only this was the auxiliary fleet of the Pacific Fleet There was a special school No. 3 of the WASH, which trained specialists for this fleet. She died with the fleet. And you mean "Poseidon." Americans are thinking about the fate of the auxiliary services of the fleet. And we just have NO fleet.
  7. Dieter
    Dieter 21 October 2018 10: 19
    +1
    Big ships - big torpedoes!
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 21 October 2018 10: 58
      -4
      Torpedoes themselves do not jump into torpedo tubes. Need for combat-ready submarine formations, long-range missile-carrying strike aircraft. For example, plans for mass production of Tu-160M2 and Tu-22M3M have just begun to discuss. Submarines of the Kalina project are still being discussed by the expert community, and also about MAPL Husky project.
  8. Berkut24
    Berkut24 21 October 2018 10: 31
    +1
    The United States is not pulling not only an arms race, but even ongoing defense spending. Not, not for defense, but for an attack, for there has not yet been a single case in which the United States had to defend itself against someone. The US state budget is 2 trillion. Of these, the Pentagon receives an average of 760 billion. The budget deficit for today is 880 billion. dollars. Taking into account the costs of the Pentagon, the CIA and the so-called non-governmental agencies and organizations, this amount just comes out. Those. The US is terrorizing the world for its money. And therefore, the issue of military power or infirmity is determined solely by the number of idiots who buy unsecured treasuries.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 21 October 2018 10: 55
      -2
      Niche Japan, Italy, and Norway lead the team of such idiots. China.
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 21 October 2018 11: 14
      0
      Quote: Berkut24
      for there has not been a single case when the United States had to defend itself against someone.

      learn history, it was more than once, though they themselves provoked this action, especially in the 19th century ...
    3. Antares
      Antares 21 October 2018 15: 04
      +1
      Quote: Berkut24
      The US state budget is 2 trillion. Of these, the Pentagon receives an average of 760 billion. The budget deficit for today is 880 billion. Doll.

      Revenues 3
      ($ million) Costs 3
      ($ million) Deficit / Surplus −655
      (million $) Year of the USA 2017
  9. gunnerminer
    gunnerminer 21 October 2018 10: 54
    -2
    The U.S. Navy command has unlimited mobilization capabilities at the expense of the fleet of its vassals.The largest tanker fleet is from the Greek henchmen, container ships from Taiwan, bulk carriers are from Greece, France, Germany, and others. Not to mention the merchant fleet of South Korea and Singapore, Poland.
  10. kplayer
    kplayer 21 October 2018 11: 26
    +1
    Well, Amers do not like and do not want to defend themselves on their territory! Pearl Harbor was remembered for a long time ...

    We learn from them, fighting in Syria.
  11. san4es
    san4es 21 October 2018 12: 00
    +2
    ... 26 Sealift Command ships (MSC, KPM, US Shipping Command), including prepositioning ships, 46 Reserve Forces (RRF) ships and another 15 MSC ships of a separate loading and unloading class.

    US Defense System ............... Jul 13. 2018 year
    The USNS Spearhead (T-EPF-1) (formerly JHSV-1) is the first Spearhead-class expeditionary fast transport to be operated by the Military Maritime Command.
  12. san4es
    san4es 21 October 2018 12: 13
    +1
    Military Sealift Command (MSC) USNS Arctic (T-AOE 8) military support ship during replenishment in the Atlantic Ocean.
  13. Brylevsky
    Brylevsky 21 October 2018 13: 05
    +1
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    chatting in vain, at the risk of his reputation, the GDP would not. That's for sure.

    Yes exactly. More precisely nowhere. Pension reform is a confirmation of this ...
  14. Strategia
    Strategia 21 October 2018 15: 03
    0
    Ships are warships, and ships to support them.
  15. kplayer
    kplayer 21 October 2018 15: 38
    +1
    US Naval Shipping Command (ILC) ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Military_Sealift_Command_ships

    KMP vessels are designed specifically for the transport of heavy equipment and weapons, ammunition and fuel and lubricants in the interests of the ground forces, marines and aviation to maintain their database on overseas theater, i.e. for deployment (while l / s NE and MP are airborne) and their subsequent provision.
    The ships of the naval fleet rolling stock have their own ship composition.
  16. Old26
    Old26 21 October 2018 16: 40
    +1
    Quote: Clever man
    Russian Navy would have such problems

    You're right. We need at least 10% of their auxiliary fleet potential ...
    However, to conclude that they are about to start a war because of a report on the prospects for the development of their auxiliary fleet is still utter stupidity. They are too tied to the fleet to lose sight of such a segment. And they already take care in advance to begin pressure on Congress in order to receive subsidies for the modernization of the auxiliary fleet

    Quote: Berkut24
    Everyone has their own problems. We have a defense fleet, the USA has an expeditionary fleet. This means that the naval battle in its modern concept will occur far from the United States, but for us it is close to our shore. Instead of missile cruisers, we will have coastal missile systems and aviation.

    If we again run into a mosquito fleet and coastal complexes, then we can say in advance that such a defense will lead to defeat. For it will be passive. What can the same coastal complexes be able to do now, let’s say on the islands of the Kuril ridge. The length of the ridge is about 1200 km. You can’t put a division on each island, we just don’t have that much, and missile ships of the class of at least a destroyer, not to mention a cruiser, will be able to solve the problem with fewer and more efficient ...

    Quote: Berkut24
    and instead of aircraft carriers - more comfortable coastal airfields ..

    And how many airfields have you counted, for example, on the same Kuril ridge? Two airfields in Iturup, one in Kunashir. A couple of kilometer-long dirt strips on Urup and Matua. That's all the "comfortable airfields" in the Kuril Islands. A couple of airfields in Kamchatka and one in Anadyr. Yes, flexible air defense is obtained. And sometimes between the airfields and one and a half thousand kilometers there ...

    Quote: Berkut24
    Instead of sea transporters, the railway and transport aircraft. Plus a system of warehouses and arsenals on land.

    And how often do trains run from the mainland to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky? And in Anadyr or Pevek? And transport aircraft probably we have not measured ...
    The system of warehouses and arsenals on land is good. especially when enemy planes do not get to them. For example, somewhere in the center of Russia. And when you have only a squadron of interceptor fighters from your cover, the warehouses will be demolished "for a sweet soul"
  17. kventinasd
    kventinasd 21 October 2018 16: 43
    -1
    But why impudently-sekas will need transporters in the case of a large shecher, when there will be nothing and nowhere to send?
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 21 October 2018 17: 29
    +2
    It would be better to pay attention to our military transport fleet. The operation in Syria has shown a lot of weaknesses, but so far there is not even a rumor that ours decided to correct the gaps. And we are all worried about the United States and its fleet
  19. Waldemar
    Waldemar 21 October 2018 22: 30
    0
    The United States always solved all its problems by arranging a world war. One must keep this in mind.