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US fighters are already over the Arctic: aircraft carrier "Harry Truman" tried

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The statements of Sergei Shoigu about the fact that the Arctic is becoming a region of increasing military capabilities are reflected in the events that have manifested themselves in the macro-region for the first time since the collapse of the Soviet Union. American aircraft carrier Harry Truman as part of AUG entered the Arctic waters, heading to the northern maritime borders of Norway to participate in the large-scale NATO military exercises "Trident Juncture 2018". In total, more than 45 thousand troops will take part in NATO maneuvers.


US fighters are already over the Arctic: aircraft carrier "Harry Truman" tried


It should be noted that the previous approach of the American carrier-based strike group to the Arctic took place in the already distant 1991 year. It is also worth noting that Norway is a NATO country, which in the north borders with the Russian Federation.

As the appearance of an aircraft carrier in fact at the sea borders of Russia is explained in the USAF:
We intend to demonstrate the power and flexibility of our naval forces. Almost 30 years our deck aviation did not act in weather conditions inherent in the Arctic. Now crew members show that an aircraft carrier, with an impressive wing, is capable of realizing its capabilities anywhere in the world.


At the same time, the United States traditionally declares that the NATO exercises “Trident Juncture 2018” are not directed against Russia. These statements are used at NATO constantly, continuing to aggressively advance their military infrastructure to the Russian borders. In the same Norway, bordering on the Russian Federation, Washington decided to deploy its servicemen, who would not be able to send them back to official Oslo even with a strong desire. The Japanese are well acquainted with this scheme, although they are not part of NATO due to geography.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 20 October 2018 06: 27
    +24
    C'mon ... A weak new year visit to repeat ?!
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 20 October 2018 06: 32
      +18
      Quote: Vard
      C'mon ... A weak new year visit to repeat ?!

      When is the minus in the yard, yes with a steam catapult?
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 20 October 2018 07: 00
        -19
        A nuclear installation will supply enough energy.
        1. Orkraider
          Orkraider 20 October 2018 07: 04
          +24
          Quote: gunnerminer
          A nuclear installation will supply enough energy.

          Wow! And then Gunka appeared laughing omnipresent and omniscient.
          1. hrych
            hrych 20 October 2018 10: 30
            +4
            This is not even a demonstration of power, but a demonstration to their voters, less to the Norwegians and other Swedes, which supposedly gives a worthy answer to these Russians on building up forces in the Arctic. The previous one, due to the frozen submarines, to put it mildly, failed. Plus, there is a heresy about global warming that the Arctic will soon lose ice. In fact, we look at the map and see that the exercises may take place at the very edge of the Arctic, or maybe not, most of the Norwegian Sea (where the exercises), as well as the mainland Norway, are stupidly not included in the Arctic.
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 20 October 2018 12: 10
              -10
              Their voters are strict, they can ask. This demand and control is an unnecessary and burdensome problem.
              1. Bykov.
                Bykov. 20 October 2018 15: 57
                0
                Quote: gunnerminer
                Their voters are strict, they can ask. This demand and control is an unnecessary and burdensome problem.

                Ha ha ha !!! Their voters are lahs. Our hackers, they completely broke their brains and forced Trump to elect ... Kilary Hlinton will not let lie.
            2. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 20 October 2018 12: 12
              +7
              "due to frozen nuclear submarines" /////
              ----
              It was a fake. Their boats can float in the Arctic just like the Russian ones.
              1. TOR2
                TOR2 20 October 2018 12: 57
                +2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Their boats can float in the Arctic just like the Russian

                A curious anecdotal incident occurred during an exercise in the Arctic with an American submarine. Trying to emerge at the location of continuous ice, the submarine got stuck in the ice mass and immediately froze to the surface. The Russians had to help the frozen American "specialists", rescuers sawing it out of the "arms of the North" with saws.
                Source: https://fishki.net/2296563-amerikanskaja-submarina-primyorzla-k-arkticheskim-lydam.html © Fishki.net
                1. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 22 October 2018 10: 55
                  0
                  Well, there is no source of Chips - this is powerful ..
                  You could still refer to Yaplakal ..))
              2. igorbrsv
                igorbrsv 20 October 2018 14: 20
                +3
                I mean fake belay piece of apl in evidence to bring or polar bears to witness
              3. milton
                milton 21 October 2018 10: 32
                +2
                Quote: voyaka uh
                "due to frozen nuclear submarines" /////
                ----
                It was a fake. Their boats can float in the Arctic just like the Russian ones.

                You warrior in the comments for each article flash! And you are a specialist in all branches of the armed forces and you know the current state of affairs in the ministries of defense of a bunch of countries! What do you spend your precious time and talent on this site and do not work sweat on the Mossad or where else? fool
          2. DarkMatter
            DarkMatter 20 October 2018 10: 46
            +7
            Wow! And then Gunka appeared laughing omnipresent and all-knowing.

            I am a little amused by the fact that many people apparently do not know who it is and even enter into a dialogue. And the other day someone for a minus apologized to him wassat wassat Nothing, enlightenment will come soon))
            1. Sandor Clegane
              Sandor Clegane 20 October 2018 12: 24
              +7
              Quote: DarkMatter
              And the other day someone for a minus apologized to him

              what nonsense? .... apologize for the minus? - yes, no when ....... minus is a personal assessment of the comment, the same as +
              1. igorbrsv
                igorbrsv 20 October 2018 14: 22
                +2
                A reasoned assessment. Then yes
            2. Phoenix_L'vov
              Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 23: 52
              +1
              Please tell who it is.
              1. DarkMatter
                DarkMatter 21 October 2018 15: 07
                +1
                Sandor Clegane
                As far as I understood, the minus was not originally thought and was put by mistake. It is written below why this was surprising. lol

                Phoenix_L'vov
                The comrade's name is usually Gunya and derivatives from this word, sometimes obscenely "a man who loves a donkey" because of his avatar with some Taliban or something like that. I wonder why he didn't put it here)
                The character is an unreal expert and expert in all... Including (if memory serves) is the author of such common noun phrases as "thin hatches" (he was the one who told that Armata is shit and the hatches are thin), about latrines and something there, I don't really follow his work))
                He loves the F-35 and everything American, which for obvious reasons is always obviously better than Russian.

                Usually walking in the comments on the BMPD page in the livejournal (from where 80% of the news comes from our site). People from there report (I didn’t deal with the investigation myself, then I write what people say) that this nickname hides an unknown number of operators who, when they go to work, usually do not know what and where their avatar argued about (due to the huge number of comments left during the working hours of the previous operator). From here, the character often does not remember what he talked to people about when they remind him. This version is also confirmed by the character's writing style, which is often radically different from the previous one. Some regulars even miss the "old" Guns, who were several years ago and have already been fired / transferred to other fronts.
          3. faradien
            faradien 21 October 2018 17: 57
            0
            Quote: Orkraider
            Quote: gunnerminer
            A nuclear installation will supply enough energy.

            Wow! And then Gunka appeared laughing omnipresent and omniscient.

            They do not favor him in other places, and they no longer pay attention to him. And the CIA soldering must be worked out. So he migrates.
        2. Nemo
          Nemo 20 October 2018 08: 24
          +8
          I wonder who will get them out of the ice
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 10
            -17
            They still have to get there. For this maneuver, it will be necessary to deprive the brain of the AUG commander and his headquarters. A wide field of activity for workers of special propaganda of the freshly created Political Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Topic for the dissertation. Plus help of innovators from Skolkovo.
        3. PSih2097
          PSih2097 20 October 2018 09: 46
          +10
          Quote: gunnerminer
          A nuclear installation will supply enough energy.

          yes, yes, yes ... provided that instead of water vapor, C2-H5-OH pairs or some other glass mine are used ... laughing
          1. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 52
            -17
            Pairs of this formula and glass washing are more suitable for the personnel of the 200 motorized rifle brigade. For the crews of the American Navy it is like death, they ruined their stomachs with all sorts of culinary excesses and dairy products.
            1. Bykov.
              Bykov. 20 October 2018 16: 00
              0
              Quote: gunnerminer
              Pairs of this formula and glass washing are more suitable for the personnel of the 200 motorized rifle brigade. For the crews of the American Navy it is like death, they ruined their stomachs with all sorts of culinary excesses and dairy products.

              Teach materiel, shkolota.
        4. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 October 2018 12: 33
          +7
          Quote: gunnerminer
          A nuclear installation will supply enough energy.

          In the Arctic, temperatures reach -50, -60 or even higher. What are you going to supply with a nuclear installation? Steam catapult at such temperatures will work if it will, then very long. At the same time, for self-education, the combat system of the AUG would look and what is included in it. In addition to the aircraft carrier, there are destroyers, cruisers and support ships. So all this magal, stupidly wiped with the ice of the Arctic.
          1. sir_obs
            sir_obs 20 October 2018 12: 53
            +6
            At one time, the AUG in the Greenland Sea was a common thing, as was tracking our ships and submarines, including diesel 4 squadrons (Polyarny) and Kolchka flotilla (42 Liinakhamari SSBN)
          2. gunnerminer
            gunnerminer 20 October 2018 13: 06
            +3
            Submariners Doenitz and KSF, as well as the British, did not ice the whole war. Read the Norwegian and Barents Sea passages. Read the sixth-grade physics textbook. Which side measures the water temperature, which is higher and lower than zero. The AUG went to the Greenland Sea even under Brezhnev.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 20 October 2018 13: 50
              +3
              Quote: gunnerminer
              Submariners Doenitz and the CSF, as well as the British did not ice the whole war

              Did you have submarines during the war on aircraft carriers?
              Quote: gunnerminer
              AUG went to the Greenland Sea even under Brezhnev

              You don’t get crap ... if only you would bother to look at the climate and temperatures of Greenland, and not write here about physics for the 6th grade. fool
              Average July temperatures range from + 3 ° C in the north to + 9 ° C in the south, and in January from -8 ° C to -17 ° C, respectively. In summer, the daytime temperature sometimes rises to + 21 ° C, but often even during this period in the central regions of the island it barely exceeds 0 ° C (on the coasts, especially on the west, the air warms up much better). The lowest temperatures in winter are observed on the east coast - up to -46 ° С, and due to constant winds, subjectively, it seems much colder.

              That is, at such temperatures, an aircraft carrier is capable of performing a combat mission ...
              And I'm telling you about arctic temperatures!
              Minimum temperatures in these areas sometimes drop to −57,7 ° C on Wrangel Island, −62 ° C on Taimyr (Gremyaka, Imangda), to −67 ° C on Yamal (Aksarka)

              Now show me the aircraft carrier, with a steam catapult that is capable of completing a combat mission at -60.
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 October 2018 17: 03
                -7
                Read the educational program about aircraft carriers, and the Arctic. There are enough materials on VO. Back georgafiya school textbook.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 20 October 2018 17: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: gunnerminer
                  Read the educational program about aircraft carriers, and the Arctic.

                  You are impassable ... forgive me not for my part. You tell me about Greenland and the Norwegian Sea, and I tell you about the waters of Wrangel Island ... or do you not know how to read?
                  1. gunnerminer
                    gunnerminer 20 October 2018 23: 29
                    -6
                    The Severomors also go to Wrangel Island once a year. Not for long. There is nothing for the American ships to do there. Everything is visible from above.
              2. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 October 2018 17: 06
                -8
                There is no need to go to the AUG to Wrangel Island. Airplanes and cruise missiles will be sent there. In the late 60s and early 60s, American planes constantly plowed the expanses of the Soviet Arctic, until the USSR air defense learned to attack them competently.
              3. VALERIK_097
                VALERIK_097 21 October 2018 15: 49
                +2
                Andrey do not boil, arguing with the near, several steamboats are already fulfilling tasks on AUG.
            2. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 20 October 2018 14: 35
              +4
              Actually, not all (roughly speaking laughing ) aircraft are generally capable of flying in the Arctic. The aircraft carrier will not come close enough and imperceptibly, especially since no carrier-based aircraft will take off. Even we do not have such. At the same time, the Russian Federation already has an "umbrella" there, and regular troops, and icebreakers with calibers on the way. Who will be against whom is still far from a fact. But considering the experience of the previous war, the protection of the northern sea route will not hurt us
              1. gunnerminer
                gunnerminer 20 October 2018 17: 04
                -6
                -at the Russian Federation there is already an "umbrella" and there are regular troops, and icebreakers with calibers for -

                Sounds if you don’t get into the details.
          3. Anatoly R
            Anatoly R 20 October 2018 13: 37
            +1
            I think that the Amer aeroplan will not take off. The tail by that time will turn into a block of ice.
            1. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 20 October 2018 14: 48
              +6
              There are pilots on the site. Maybe they will clarify. As far as I know in the world there are only a few types of aircraft capable of flying in arctic conditions and those are not decks. Sail to Norway to capture Norway can and ride if the snot does not freeze. Father rocketer told me, if you spat and heard a crack, it means frost in half an hour. Ask by the way when in Tiksi at what frost from the first to the fourth grade studies are canceled wassat They live like that with a little guy on the street. US aircraft carrier in the arctic wassat Oh well. We will see
              1. Dedrusav
                Dedrusav 21 October 2018 19: 27
                0
                At altitudes of more than 10 km the temperature is up to minus 55 Celsius. Airplanes fly.
        5. faradien
          faradien 21 October 2018 17: 52
          0
          Quote: gunnerminer
          A nuclear installation will supply enough energy.

          Yeah, and the deck warms up the sides, so that the ice floes do not restrict movement. Or will they melt themselves, with joy for the democratizers? wassat How's that ice class cow? wink lol
      2. sir_obs
        sir_obs 20 October 2018 12: 22
        +6
        A quote from Clancy's book "The Hunt for Red October", by the way, the works of this figure, far from the fleet, as the closest star system, are studied in Anapolis, as the main expert of our fleet, in full earnest

        "The captain of the first rank of the Soviet Navy, Mark Ramius, was dressed in accordance with the Arctic conditions, usual for a submarine base of the Northern Fleet in Polyarny: five woolen sweaters, and a waterproof overalls over the top."

        That's how they imagine it. Either cry, or laugh.
        1. Anatoly R
          Anatoly R 20 October 2018 13: 42
          0
          And finally, there was a ukrov captain in an embroidered shirt. Stir up the water.
    2. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 07: 09
      -8
      But they will repeat ...... Under our new year will come .......
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 20 October 2018 07: 33
        +15
        And what about an aircraft carrier, and even with blacks on board in the Arctic? belay
        1. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 07: 36
          -4
          Negroes live here in America ... They serve, they go in uniform, and they came to the Arctic, supposedly to the Arctic ...
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 20 October 2018 09: 52
          +10
          Orders are not discussed. There will be special blacks, polar.
          1. zhekazs
            zhekazs 20 October 2018 12: 13
            +3
            Quote: Aviator_
            There will be special blacks, polar.

            Wow. laughing A new breed of blacks was bred, polar, genetically modified laughing
            1. sir_obs
              sir_obs 20 October 2018 12: 37
              +8
              Logically, the polar Negro should be white and with a black nose, which should be covered with a paw during the hunt so that it does not shine against the background of snow.
      2. Every
        Every 20 October 2018 07: 45
        +8
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        But they will repeat ...... Under our new year will come .......

        Maybe they will come. But to leave - in doubt. In winter, there is nothing to do there without a good icebreaker. May get stuck in ice. Until spring. All the same, the aircraft carrier is a healthy vessel. And only the Russian Federation has good icebreakers.
        1. mvg
          mvg 20 October 2018 09: 46
          -3
          only icebreakers have good icebreakers

          Therefore, not so long ago, our Chinese icebreaker got ...
          1. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 20 October 2018 11: 54
            0
            Did he happen to become Chinese recently? Googling reluctance. And what did the Chinese do in the Arctic, by the way? The Silk Road aside seems to be
            1. zhekazs
              zhekazs 20 October 2018 12: 10
              +7
              Quote: igorbrsv
              Did he happen to become Chinese recently? Googling reluctance. And what did the Chinese do in the Arctic, by the way?

              It was not so. Our scientific ship, the icebreaker, and the truth was a Chinese. But! It was all in the anti-Arctic, on the other side of the ball, i.e. in the Antarctic.
              1. mvg
                mvg 20 October 2018 15: 37
                +3
                an icebreaker and the truth was a Chinese

                Our ship, the Chinese icebreaker, was the closest of the 3 ice class ships nearby ... and it rescued. All right. But a Chinese man of his own construction and still on the slipways, to varying degrees of readiness, pieces 3 stand. And the yellow ones have their own program for exploring the Arctic, no less ambitious than Russia. And they don’t build ships for 14 years, like 11711 or 855 or 22350. But it takes 052-3 years to build a ship of the destroyer class (4D).
        2. Vanek
          Vanek 22 October 2018 06: 25
          0
          Quote: Every
          Until spring


          Once upon a time in the cold winter time. Cow pi .. (uh, udder) stuck to the fence ...
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 October 2018 12: 36
        +6
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        But they will repeat ...... Under our new year will come .......

        Yeah ... have you heard about the Titanic? With -50 on this aircraft carrier, it would be possible to dazzle a snow woman, rather than perform takeoffs and landings of airplanes. The catapult steam at such temperatures does not rattle!
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 October 2018 13: 07
          -10
          Read a physics textbook for sixth grade.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 20 October 2018 13: 35
            +6
            Quote: gunnerminer
            Read a physics textbook for sixth grade.

            Read about the operation of steam catapults at low temperatures, and then write heresy here. fool
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 20 October 2018 23: 31
              -7
              American catapults work without comment. There are no Russian steam catapults. Due to the lack of aircraft carriers.
        2. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 14: 03
          -4
          The fact is, the trouble is straight, you only heard about the Titanic ....... did not see it yourself ......... steam catapults .... not fury ..... It's been a long time since "Truman" ? Or so, with the tongue ......... We will throw the enemy's caps .......
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 20 October 2018 14: 05
            +3
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            did not see yourself ......... steam catapults .... not furychiyh ..... Long ago with "

            What for a long time? No steam catapults? The United States only has a Ford with an electromagnetic catapult ... and it is in trials. What's next?
            1. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 14: 18
              -5
              There, I believe, Americans have steam catapults ...... What Ford is doing there, I don’t know ...... They’re not worse than Americans! you-in the Arctic with steam .... windlass spiers do not poke .....
        3. Bykov.
          Bykov. 21 October 2018 13: 43
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          But they will repeat ...... Under our new year will come .......

          Yeah ... have you heard about the Titanic? With -50 on this aircraft carrier, it would be possible to dazzle a snow woman, rather than perform takeoffs and landings of airplanes. The catapult steam at such temperatures does not rattle!

          Yes, his head is not furry, at room temperature.
      4. Anatoly R
        Anatoly R 20 October 2018 13: 46
        +6
        Forgot about the joke!
        There are two warships at sea - Russian and American. In Russian -
        commotion, everyone is running, screaming.
        - Who threw the felt boots on the remote? I repeat once again - who threw the boots?
        Americans see it all:
        - Yes, in America we don’t have such a mess ...
        - Yes, there is no more of your America! Who threw the boots on the remote !?
  2. Turuk
    Turuk 20 October 2018 06: 36
    +5
    Quote: Bulls.
    Quote: Vard
    C'mon ... A weak new year visit to repeat ?!

    When is the minus in the yard, yes with a steam catapult?

    And the sea in the ice
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 07: 01
      -3
      There is no ice where ACG maneuvers.
      1. ltc35
        ltc35 20 October 2018 07: 08
        +4
        Maneuver a bit. They will realize their hopelessness and will get out of there for another twenty years to wait for the global warming of the ice to melt.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 October 2018 07: 56
          -2
          Their constant presence there is not required. The composition of the constant readiness forces of the KSF is declining rapidly, without the direct influence of the AUG. So, they came, knocked on the fence with the butt. Their submarines and submarines of their vassals are quite frequent guests in these areas.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 20 October 2018 09: 21
        +4
        Quote: gunnerminer
        There is no ice where ACG maneuvers.

        ETOGES what should be early in the morning to maneuver? belay
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 22
          -2
          You are right. Maneuver.
      3. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 20 October 2018 11: 56
        +1
        Rather maneuvers where there is no ice
      4. Tersky
        Tersky 20 October 2018 12: 43
        +1
        Quote: gunnerminer
        Am where there is no ice maneuvering.

        We will organize it, as in due time for Napoleon and Hitler. yes
      5. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 October 2018 13: 56
        +3
        Quote: gunnerminer
        There is no ice where ACG maneuvers.

        There are no prohibitively low temperatures where AUGs go. Don't give me Greenland as an example, but take the trouble to look at the temperatures there.
        If the AUG approaches the Wrangel Island in winter, the aircraft carrier’s catapult will be covered with a copper basin.
      6. FIFA from Cardiff
        FIFA from Cardiff 21 October 2018 01: 29
        0
        In Alaska, the crabbuckers also catch the crab where there is no ice, but for a couple of ships a year there those crabbolders lose most often because of icing, because the ships themselves are essentially like floats — you won’t drown them with a keel
      7. Bykov.
        Bykov. 21 October 2018 13: 45
        0
        Quote: gunnerminer
        There is no ice where ACG maneuvers.

        .... and coconut palms are growing.
    2. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 07: 12
      -5
      For steam, forget about ..... And they don’t move on oars ..... We don’t throw our hats over the enemy, since there are no hats .....
      1. 2329 Carpenter
        2329 Carpenter 20 October 2018 11: 09
        +8
        At VO drop who you want ... Lehko!
        wassat
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 20 October 2018 11: 58
          +1
          I have already thrown. I am not afraid of their aug
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 20 October 2018 14: 07
        +2
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        About STEAM forget ....

        Seriously? At least go to Wikipedia and take a look at how many aircraft carriers the United States has and how many of them have a steam catapult.
        1. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 14: 23
          -5
          Advise Wikipedia ..... Do not tell me ..... Wikipedia .....
      3. Bykov.
        Bykov. 21 October 2018 13: 46
        +1
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        For steam, forget about ..... And they don’t move on oars ..... We don’t throw our hats over the enemy, since there are no hats .....

        Right And forget about all LAWS of physics too. What for common sense !!!!
  3. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 20 October 2018 06: 49
    +13
    there, and now the ice situation is not honey. So that it is jammed in the ice, and ice breaks at least the sides of it, that the Yankees forgot their way there on their carts.
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 07: 03
      -5
      Even if the AUG disappears, they still have a couple of combat-ready ones. But the TARKR Peter the Great is waiting for a decision on his repair. The cruiser Nakhimov is in no hurry to hand over to the customer.
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      2. mvd ru
        mvd ru 20 October 2018 07: 52
        +7
        Well, what are you spreading propaganda here ??? Yes, at least let all the US AUG fit ...., the Guarantor said, "if something happens" we will die like martyrs, and YOU just DIE, that's all
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 October 2018 07: 58
          -1
          -JUST DYE, that's all-

          Quite an extravagant summing up of the 18-year reign. More than Brezhnev's in time.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 20 October 2018 09: 23
            +5
            Quote: gunnerminer
            Quite the same extravagant summing up of 18 years of rule.

            Is it too early to sum up? How is the donkey's health?
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 58
              +1
              18 years is quite a normal period for summing up the process of transformation and reform. Tiny beggars of South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, for example, have more or less lost their knees for such an operational period. Or at least one knee. Not to mention the beggars of Japan or Italy after the Second World War I. Moreover, Russia is the richest country in the world, with unlimited mineral reserves, a loyal and law-abiding population, millions of migrant workers from Central Asia, hundreds of thousands of qualified patriotic officials, large and very large owners, business executives, financiers who donate billions of rubles to construction programs, development of remote areas, education and sports. For example, a large owner and talented business executive Roman Abramovich and Oleg Deripaska are known for their tremendous donations for the development of sports.
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 20 October 2018 10: 27
                +10
                Quote: gunnerminer
                South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore

                Their working day is not normalized - an example is taken from the Yapov. Use the rabsil until it is bent, and then it is relocated to cardboard boxes.
                You first work with 8.00 to 23.00, and then try to get up from your knees.
                The topic of pensions is also not disclosed by you, there it is a sore point. Italy is still a beggar.
                And there are oligarchs there and corruption at the government level.

                So how is the ass?
                1. Tsoy
                  Tsoy 20 October 2018 10: 56
                  +3
                  Their working day is not normalized - an example is taken from the Yapov. Use the rabsil until it is bent, and then it is relocated to cardboard boxes.
                  You first work with 8.00 to 23.00, and then try to get up from your knees.


                  Oh ... Isn't that why everyone from the Far East rushed to Korea to work? Moreover, the majority plow illegally in the country. For your information, people from the Russian Federation and the CIS are employed in most of the "black" jobs in Korea. So it's not about time, but about payment. If they paid the same amount here as there, the people would plow no worse than the Stakhanovites. In addition to accommodation, food, 5-day working week, 13 salaries and permanent allowances, they can also count on a separate overtime payment. With such conditions, I would not mind lifting the country from its knees.
                  1. Gray brother
                    Gray brother 20 October 2018 11: 00
                    +4
                    Quote: Choi
                    . Is that why everyone from the Far East to Korea rushed to work?

                    Well, nobody left at all?
                    Quote: Choi
                    For your information, people from the Russian Federation and the CIS are employed in most of the "black" jobs in Korea.

                    For your information, most Thais work in most of the black works in Korea and Japan.
                    Quote: Choi
                    If here they paid as much as there, the people would plow no worse than the Stakhanovites.

                    Stakhanovite lost his health and everything - free as the wind. A wonderful approach.
                    1. Tsoy
                      Tsoy 20 October 2018 11: 02
                      +5
                      For your information, most Thais work in most of the black works in Korea and Japan.


                      Have you ever been to Korea so confidently to speak about the majority? Already I foresee the answer - no.
                      1. Gray brother
                        Gray brother 20 October 2018 11: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: Choi
                        Have you ever been to Korea so confidently to talk about the majority?

                        I worked with the Japanese, with the Japanese theater. The Japanese said that Thais are the cheapest rabsila in the region - they are there where you need to dig and carry. They even drove them to Moscow as movers.
                      2. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 20 October 2018 12: 03
                        0
                        Have you ever been to Russia?
                  2. igorbrsv
                    igorbrsv 20 October 2018 12: 06
                    +3
                    . all from the Far East to Korea rushed to work

                    The "extinct" Vdadivostok is right before your eyes wassat
                2. Е2 - Е4
                  Е2 - Е4 20 October 2018 16: 58
                  +3
                  It’s not necessary to lie !!!
                  The legal working hours in Japan should not exceed 40 hours a week or eight
                  If the working day is six hours, the employer must give the employee a break of at least 45 minutes. If a person works eight hours, then the break should be at least an hour.
                  It should also be noted that in some cases (wedding, death of close relatives, birth of a child, etc.), most Japanese companies provide their employees with several additional days of paid leave
              2. igorbrsv
                igorbrsv 20 October 2018 12: 01
                +3
                You correctly noticed - tiny. This is them two weeks on the train do not shake
          2. 2329 Carpenter
            2329 Carpenter 20 October 2018 11: 13
            +2
            If Brezhnev had raked so much shit, would he have stretched 18 years?
        2. Anatoly R
          Anatoly R 20 October 2018 13: 54
          +1
          He flattered the amers. Only America will die.
        3. Anatoly R
          Anatoly R 20 October 2018 14: 07
          +1
          Quote: mvd ru
          Well, what are you spreading propaganda here ??? Yes, at least let all the US AUG fit ...., the Guarantor said, "if something happens" we will die like martyrs, and YOU just DIE, that's all

          He flattered the amers. Only America will die.
      3. 2329 Carpenter
        2329 Carpenter 20 October 2018 11: 11
        +3
        Well, we have nothing but submarines. So what? They came closer - and so what?
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 13: 10
      -2
      Read the geography textbook of the sixth-class continents. Or the Norwegian and Barents seas. AUG carried out combat services in the Greenland Sea even under Brezhnev. Doenitz, CSF, and British submarines operated in the winter, and not just in the fall or summer in the areas under discussion. Like the crews of pocket battleships Kriegsmarine .Read the educational program of the book Kovalev Swastika over Taimyr. At the same time get acquainted with the geography of your country.
  4. Graz
    Graz 20 October 2018 06: 54
    +2
    for that there are the Arctic Shell
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 07: 15
      -21
      There are Armor, a stake are standing ..... Frozen, mechanics-AUTOMATICS froze .....
      1. Every
        Every 20 October 2018 07: 48
        +7
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        There are Armor, a stake are standing ..... Frozen, mechanics-AUTOMATICS froze .....

        Where did the information that froze come from? Or is it so, gag?
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 20 October 2018 09: 16
        +3
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        They froze, mechanics-AUTOMATICS froze .....

        You confused it with a chicken in your freezer. Looking at her and made such conclusions .. Have you ever seen "Shell"?
        1. GTYCBJYTH2021
          GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 17: 15
          -3
          You, apparently, saw and saw everything ....... In the movie, apparently ...... Tell me, tell us why the batteries do not hold a charge at low temperatures ..... why coolants become viscous in cold weather ..... and why there are no pneumatic drives in the technology for NORDS ......
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 20 October 2018 18: 13
            +3
            Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
            You, apparently, saw and saw everything ....... In the movie, apparently ...... Tell me, tell us why the batteries do not hold a charge at low temperatures ..... why coolants become viscous in cold weather ..... and why there are no pneumatic drives in the technology for NORDS ......

            Have you ever heard about heated battery containers, about AMG-10 hydraulic oil (quite old) with a temperature range from +50 to -50 ° C, about lubricating oils with the same range ...?
            But about the "standing stake" "Shells" you have not even seen in the movies, perhaps delirious.
            1. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 22 October 2018 22: 51
              -2
              Tell us about the warm toilets in the NORTH .... If I heard about heated containers of batteries ... about oil with a working range of 100 degrees, I could have heard that ..... When the chicken from the freezer was raw ... I ate ... ...........
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 23 October 2018 00: 39
                +1
                Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                Tell us about the warm toilets in the NORTH .... If I heard about heated containers of batteries ... about oil with a working range of 100 degrees, I could have heard that ..... When the chicken from the freezer was raw ... I ate ... ...........

                Did you understand what you’ve done?
                1. GTYCBJYTH2021
                  GTYCBJYTH2021 23 October 2018 11: 49
                  -1
                  About the heated battery containers ......... tell me ...... not stupid you are .......
                  1. Piramidon
                    Piramidon 23 October 2018 11: 57
                    0
                    On airplanes, these containers have been used for more than 50 years.
                    In the photo in the lower right corner.
                    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
                      GTYCBJYTH2021 23 October 2018 12: 18
                      -1
                      So after all, in airplanes .... in tractors .... In "Pantsir" there is no such thing ....... little space ......
                    2. GTYCBJYTH2021
                      GTYCBJYTH2021 23 October 2018 12: 21
                      0
                      What, is it so warm on the plane? ......
                      1. Piramidon
                        Piramidon 23 October 2018 12: 42
                        0
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        What, is it so warm on the plane? ......

                        In an airplane, the batteries are not in the pressurized cabin, but in the unheated and leaky compartment. And it has the same temperature as outside.
                      2. GTYCBJYTH2021
                        GTYCBJYTH2021 23 October 2018 12: 57
                        -1
                        What kind of battery is there in the tractor? —A airplane helicopter ..... not pig-alkaline ......... It's about the Shells, the tractors, in fact and in fact ...... They hung guns and missiles. ..... But the tractor in Kuyumba (This is Evenkia). There it will freeze ...... It needs to be driven by DAY ...... to burn the solarium ..... otherwise ... PIPE ...... .
                      3. Piramidon
                        Piramidon 23 October 2018 14: 04
                        0
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        0
                        What kind of battery is in the tractor? A plane-helicopter helicopter ..... not pig-alkaline ......... It's about the Shells, the tractor

                        Everything is clear with you. And how I was led to the fact that you, or stupid-stubborn, or just a troll, to explain something? "Lead-alkaline" is generally a masterpiece! fool Stay out of those areas of technology where you don't understand anything AT ALL, plumber-san. I do not argue with you about your "sortings". Doing stupid trolling here. Ask to change your training manuals. Pokedova, a great connoisseur of "Shells" and toilets! hi
                      4. GTYCBJYTH2021
                        GTYCBJYTH2021 23 October 2018 16: 58
                        -1
                        Do not expose yourself smart ....... to your wife only ...... But still tell us how to keep a tractor with guns and rockets ALIVE in the NORTH-if you do not burn fuel in it ....... .
                      5. Piramidon
                        Piramidon 23 October 2018 19: 09
                        0
                        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                        Do not expose yourself smart ....... to your wife only ...... But still tell us how to keep a tractor with guns and rockets ALIVE in the NORTH-if you do not burn fuel in it ....... .

                        And you do not make yourself appear stupid, claiming that in the NORTHERN except for deer and polar bears, there has never been any other equipment, and there it has never worked before the appearance of "Shell". fool Ask about it those who served there and served all kinds of equipment. You can also ask the drivers of thousands of dump trucks and excavator drivers who work year-round in quarries throughout the North.
            2. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 23 October 2018 11: 57
              -1
              The toilet is the place where they defecate ...... they poop and shit if they weren't there ..... Tell about the AMG-10 oil, if it's not a secret ..... I haven't seen "Shell" .. .and didn’t see ...... There aren’t them here ..... and there will not be so many solariums ......... Even the Northern Sea Route .........
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 23 October 2018 12: 26
                0
                Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
                Tell about AMG-10 oil, if not a secret .....

                No need to be so stubborn. If you do not know about him, then this does not mean that he does not exist. Take a look here:
                http://www.vesnatehno.com/lubricants/avia-oil/maslo-gidravlicheskoe-amg-10.html
                It says black in Russian:
                Scope of AMG-10 oil
                Designed for hydraulic systems of aircraft and ground equipment operating in the range of ambient temperatures from -60 to + 55 ° C.

                I even narrowed this temperature range a little. Memory fails. A long time ago I did not deal with this oil.
                And why did you stick the toilet here? fool
                The toilet is the place to defecate ...... poop and hoot

                Plumber, or what? Only do you understand them?
                1. GTYCBJYTH2021
                  GTYCBJYTH2021 23 October 2018 12: 46
                  0
                  Apparently, the memory fails .... I say about TOM oil ..... What kind of oil is it that it is not used for in gold mining technology?
                2. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 23 October 2018 12: 57
                  0
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  What kind of oil is this

                  Normal red oil. In the autumn you pour it into the garage lock and all winter it easily opens in any frost. He also poured it into the cables of a motorcycle (I had to ride in winter).
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 23 October 2018 20: 36
        0
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        There are Armor, a stake are standing ..... Frozen, mechanics-AUTOMATICS froze .....

        Who wrote this crap in your training manual? Tear off your seat from the warm sofa, go to Yakutia and see how all the equipment is "stuck" there in the 50-degree frost, and all the workers abandon it and fly away to the south for half a year. fool
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 24
      -3
      They were put a little to protect the Arctic.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 20 October 2018 12: 11
        +1
        So we are there alone with such force. Flying fighting polar bears to shoot down or something.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 23 October 2018 14: 18
        0
        Quote: gunnerminer
        They were put a little to protect the Arctic.

        How did you get it with your "not enough". Immediately, the man from the cartoon comes to mind.

        After all, the workers in the factories make them, and not the old man Hottabych, who pulled out a hair - and the whole country is in "Shells. Over time, they will build more.
  5. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 07: 05
    -8
    They passed through the Atlantic, not through the Berenga Strait ..... But Murmansk, Arkhangelsk and this and that Arctic ....... Skip the aircraft carrier further .....
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 07: 59
      -6
      There is no need to follow them further.
  6. Granddad
    Granddad 20 October 2018 07: 16
    +2
    Shtatniks can smell where you can profit in the future .. In vain you dream, Russia has long staked this rich territory for a long time.
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 07: 41
      -8
      Let's be honest, yes, Russia "staked out" those rich lands, but will the Russians begin to live richer and sweeter from those lands? ..... Think and scratch your head ....... No offense ......
      1. 11 black
        11 black 20 October 2018 07: 48
        +4
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        Let's be honest, yes, Russia "staked out" those rich lands, but will the Russians begin to live richer and sweeter from those lands? ..... Think and scratch your head ....... No offense ......

        You are absolutely right - there is only one way out, to give everything to the Americans together with Siberia. Only then will life in Russia improve ...
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 20 October 2018 08: 45
          +8
          Quote: 11 black
          give everything to Americans along with Siberia.

          And you asked the Siberians if they would like to "donate" or dig up a machine gun tongue
          1. Granddad
            Granddad 20 October 2018 09: 30
            +6
            Quote: Chertt
            Quote: 11 black
            give everything to Americans along with Siberia.

            And you asked the Siberians if they would like to "donate" or dig up a machine gun tongue

            Yes, Siberia, the Urals is the foundation of Russia! But the most offensive of our opinion is somehow not required in Moscow and others ..
            But when the German motorized armada approached Moscow (there was a real panic there was "political workers and others" in Tashkent fought ..))))
            Only the Siberian-Ural divisions that approached in time stopped the Germans on the approaches to .. and then drove the Germans away ..
            It was like that soldier
            Now it will be more difficult, Siberia and the Urals are depleted .. All the bastards pumped and plundered during the privatization of the 90s, etc.
      2. Granddad
        Granddad 20 October 2018 07: 50
        +3
        Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
        but richer and sweeter from the lands of those Russians will begin to live? ..... Think and scratch the head of a man ....... No offense ......

        Life in Russia was always difficult for the bulk of the population and each generation lived and worked tirelessly for the future, hoping that they would then heal happily and peacefully ..
        They do not allow us to live quietly and peacefully, we are constantly at war .. Russia has such a fate to see!
        And the Arctic is for the future and it is necessary to protect it to the last .. Development still began in the early USSR.
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 07: 59
      -11
      The Baltic states and Central Asia also once staked.
      1. Granddad
        Granddad 20 October 2018 08: 38
        +4
        Quote: gunnerminer
        The Baltic states and Central Asia also once staked.

        But in fact, the way it is .. As if their pro-American rulers did not wander, they are still under Russia .. There were and will be! The imperial spirit cannot be squeezed out of the Russians; this is already at the genetic level with us. We unite and build, the Anglo-Saxons disunite and rob.
        And so we live hehe heh We only dream of peace.
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 12
          -2
          They are now under Russia! Russia is the richest country in the world. And the American rulers, in addition to green papers, have nothing for their souls.
          1. Granddad
            Granddad 20 October 2018 10: 34
            +1
            Quote: gunnerminer
            They are now under Russia! Russia is the richest country in the world. And the American rulers, in addition to green papers, have nothing for their souls.

            Well, I wouldn’t say so .. Not so stupid))))
            But they hold the world by the throat "with their green papers" ... And everyone understands this! hi Smiling with white-toothed smiles, and in his eyes the fire of the devil of the "golden calf" ..
            God forbid Russia to adopt this from them .. Then all (Motherland, Fatherland, principles and the Russian Soul to hell with the tail.) soldier
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 20 October 2018 12: 12
              -6
              Russia does not borrow from them, especially their green dollars. Neither jeans, nor the Internet, nor viscari.
      2. Phoenix_L'vov
        Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 09: 45
        +1
        ... and Crimea, gunya)
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 October 2018 10: 02
          -3
          Yes. Crimea is developing thanks to skillfully and competently placed large qualified officials, managers. The activities of Asenov, Menyailo, their assistants and deputies for road and housing construction are especially noticeable. A stream of valuable plans and ideas.
          1. Phoenix_L'vov
            Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 10: 09
            +6
            In Crimea, Gunya is ALREADY better than in Ukraine. However, even if it would have become much worse, you, the Nazis, Crimeans would not have returned.

            By the way, SIX MILLION people of tourists visited Crimea this year - it became a record in the number of tourists who visited this wonderful land)

            And if in Crimea they do at least something, repair something, build it, but you don’t have nichrome at all - but the gas price for the population has increased by 23%, thanks to pots like you - are you glad, guna? )
            1. gunnerminer
              gunnerminer 20 October 2018 10: 23
              -2
              - SIX MILLION people of tourists visited Crimea -

              And they’ll visit even more. Wonderful Land. Much more wonderful than Turkey and Cyprus.

              - at least they do something, they repair something -

              They do a lot of things.
              1. Phoenix_L'vov
                Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 10: 33
                +3
                Of course they will visit more - because if in the present, deplorable state after you, Crimea was visited by so many delegations from various countries of Europe, so many tourists and vacationers from Western Ukraine, then how much more will the flow of tourists increase after the restoration of the republic is completed?
                "Much more wonderful than Turkey, Cyprus" - there is no debate about tastes, you know. Icelandic harsh landscapes have their own charm, and in the ridicule and mockery of the Turks, especially over Slavic women, and in the high Crimean prices) Some people like the resorts of Russia more, others like the West, each his own.


                "They do a lot of things." - everyone is doing something, only the result is somehow different. They do it in Crimea, they do it, they build it, but whatever they do, for some reason they just destroy it ... Have you already screwed it up, goon? )
                1. gunnerminer
                  gunnerminer 20 October 2018 12: 14
                  -3
                  The Crimean leadership, thanks to skillfully selected disinterested decisive officials, leads the peninsula to further prosperity, to the envy of the Kiev junta, and to the envy of the Turkish neighbors, with their beaches and plastic tomatoes.
                  1. Phoenix_L'vov
                    Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 14: 02
                    +2
                    Do you try elfing? Have I really touched you so much by mentioning the fact that in Crimea it is better than yours? )))
                    Wonderful, I will know how to get you in the future! )
                    And, this is - you still screw it. Indeed, a 23,5% increase in gas prices is no joke!
                    1. gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 17: 09
                      -1
                      It’s better in Crimea. Mr. Peskov took his family out of Italy to rest in Crimea.
                      1. Phoenix_L'vov
                        Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 17: 45
                        +3
                        Do you, guna, deny the fact that 6 million people visited Crimea? What is there some kind of pussy? We are talking about the masses, even ten clerks will not leave as much money in Crimea as these 6 million have left - that's why you are sausage)
                    2. gunnerminer
                      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 17: 09
                      -1
                      But in the Russian Federation gas was made free, especially for pensioners and conscript families.
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                      2. Phoenix_L'vov
                        Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 23: 45
                        0
                        But in Ukraine, gas rose by 23,5%, gunny. This is despite the fact that Russia is under sanctions, but you are not)
            2. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 20 October 2018 17: 23
              +3
              Gas in Russia has risen in price ..... The other day, a cylinder of 50 liters for a home was 1260 rubles ..... and in January it was over 965 .......
            3. GTYCBJYTH2021
              GTYCBJYTH2021 22 October 2018 22: 59
              0
              6 million people visited Crimea ..... They ate, drank and, excuse me, defecated ...... But somewhere in the sea .... There were no treatment facilities, there are none .... But they are silent about this ....
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 20 October 2018 10: 04
      +2
      IPhone Norgam gave an area of ​​one hundred thousand km., Now they swim there. And these one hundred thousand automatically attract another two hundred Arctic regions.
  7. nafanal
    nafanal 20 October 2018 07: 17
    +4
    Let them swim .. We’ll get into a storm and see ..
    1. Granddad
      Granddad 20 October 2018 07: 53
      +1
      Quote: Nathanael
      Let them swim .. We’ll get into a storm and see ..

      Let them feel the harsh climate .. And then, Help, Russ Ivan auuuuu)))))
    2. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 08: 00
      -4
      If only the RTOs of the Karakurt project (large boats) did not fall into the storm.
      1. Granddad
        Granddad 20 October 2018 08: 46
        +2
        Quote: gunnerminer
        If only the RTOs of the Karakurt project (large boats) did not fall into the storm.

        I understood your madness ..))) Do not worry, these will survive in any conditions .. soldier
        1. gunnerminer
          gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 13
          0
          The Karakurt crews are required not to survive, to cause unacceptable damage to the enemy, or to create a real threat of such damage.
  8. Olegater
    Olegater 20 October 2018 08: 10
    +2
    I have a question. Doesn't it consider the connection between the flights of scouts near Kaliningrad and the arrival of ships? And harsh statements from the president? And if something "accidentally" drowns at their exercises there, they will blame Russia and one more reason to blame us!
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 15
      -6
      If a ship with a crew sank every week, the process of drowning their fleet will take more than one year. Once the Severodvinsk shipbuilders begin repairing the TARKR Peter the Great.
    2. keeper03
      keeper03 20 October 2018 12: 00
      +1
      So can we provide a smooth forway and coast guard for the AUG ?! So that our "gentlemen" do not drown !? wassat angry soldier
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 20 October 2018 12: 03
        -5
        As you wish. You are the owners of the Arctic, and you decide.
        1. Phoenix_L'vov
          Phoenix_L'vov 20 October 2018 23: 49
          +1
          Yes, guna, we are the masters, and you are the sixes of America. Not even six - but her cannon fodder, consumables. Did you teach history? ALWAYS, when Ukraine opposed Russia, it ended up in a huge loss - ALWAYS. And always, when she was in Union with Russia, she lived quite well.
          Simple arithmetic - Ukraine as part of the USSR - 52 million people.
          Ukraine without Russia, but in alliance with the West (more precisely, not in alliance, but in slavery) - 30 million people remain in the country, and the population continues to decline.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 October 2018 08: 19
    +4
    At the same time, the USA traditionally declares that the NATO exercises “Trident Juncture 2018” not directed against Russia.

    ... Ah, and everyone nodded amicably ... laughing
    1. Granddad
      Granddad 20 October 2018 09: 19
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      At the same time, the USA traditionally declares that the NATO exercises “Trident Juncture 2018” not directed against Russia.

      ... Ah, and everyone nodded amicably ... laughing

      Already the neck hurts to nod)))) We'll get to someday .. soldier
  10. Bare
    Bare 20 October 2018 08: 33
    +2
    I can imagine how their carrier-based aircraft will ride overboard laughing lol wassat crying
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 09: 17
      -2
      They came up with a remedy after September 1950. Then they encountered icing on the deck of an aircraft carrier because of the early winter on the Korean Peninsula. They would use hot water for the main deck irrigation system. There is no aircraft carrier on the KSF, so the CSF Commander has one less problem.
      1. nafanal
        nafanal 20 October 2018 15: 01
        +1
        Freezing the deck of an aircraft carrier is a sign .. I witnessed how a minesweeper who got near the Novaya Zemlya in an ice storm in just a couple of hours became so icy that it turned over and sank .. And if such a colossus grows on ice. The bullet will be grandiose ..
  11. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 20 October 2018 09: 55
    +4
    A beautiful take-off image with visualization of the vortex structure of the flow around the wing. Fog condenses at low pressure. The end vortices and vortices from the inflows of the wing are clearly visible.
  12. toxa-xa
    toxa-xa 20 October 2018 09: 57
    +1
    freeze in the ice, then they will ask us to rescue
  13. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 20 October 2018 10: 10
    +1
    And how many "daggers" are needed for this trough?
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 10: 26
      -2
      Approximately 30, it will sink for a long time. From the mere mention of the Dagger, the crews will run to write reports on early termination of contracts. As after the use of the Khibiny station, the Su-24 crew. D. Cook's crew is still undergoing rehabilitation measures.
    2. another RUSICH
      another RUSICH 20 October 2018 11: 44
      +1
      To incapacitate an aircraft carrier, only one Dagger in the runway is enough
      1. gunnerminer
        gunnerminer 20 October 2018 12: 06
        -2
        Это повреждение отремонтируют.Располагают ремонтными бригадами,и достаочным количеством инструмента и материалов.При крене от пяти градусов, подьем авиации невозможен.Самое эффективное воздействие это прямое попадание примерно 20 торпед с боевой частью от 300 кило морской смеси.
        1. another RUSICH
          another RUSICH 3 November 2018 11: 22
          0
          C'mon?))) and we won one fallen tower crane on Kuzya was enough!))
  14. VECHESLAVIAN
    VECHESLAVIAN 20 October 2018 10: 27
    +1
    Yes, we are the army, Abramovich with our dough and offshore is already in Israel and nothing, everyone is happy with everything, but then some kind of rusty trough with mosquitoes on board entered the Arctic waters. Eka is unseen! We will throw his hats, balalaikas and bottles with alcohol, and then we will also poison the bears, and we will plant naked # support on a red-hot nuclear reactor, so that it would be disastrous.
  15. Bully
    Bully 20 October 2018 10: 40
    0
    The Norwegian Sea is not the Arctic yet, there the Gulf Stream is a little water and the air warms up
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 12: 07
      -1
      Not everyone is familiar with the geography of the school course. For them, the Norwegian Sea, the Kara Sea, are all one.
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 20 October 2018 18: 12
      0
      Quote: Bully
      The Norwegian Sea is not the Arctic yet, there the Gulf Stream is a little water and the air warms up

      Navigation in Murmansk - open data.
  16. krops777
    krops777 20 October 2018 10: 58
    +2
    We intend to demonstrate the power and flexibility of our naval forces. For almost 30 years our carrier-based aircraft did not operate in the weather conditions inherent in the Arctic. Now the crew members show that the aircraft carrier, with the presence of an impressive wing, is capable of realizing its capabilities anywhere in the world.


    Well, the icebreaker fleet is no longer needed, don’t carry the blizzard. bully
  17. 2329 Carpenter
    2329 Carpenter 20 October 2018 11: 18
    +4
    Quote: gunnerminer
    .Tiny beggars South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, for example, during such an operational period more or less rose from their knees.

    Murad, damn it ... They themselves rose from their knees, without outside help? Or were they submarines and ballistic missiles, coupled with missiles, were forced to develop and produce? As always: the 100500th critic appears, not cutting into how much our independence and foreign policy cost.
  18. 2329 Carpenter
    2329 Carpenter 20 October 2018 11: 20
    +1
    Quote: Grandpa
    Quote: aszzz888
    At the same time, the USA traditionally declares that the NATO exercises “Trident Juncture 2018” not directed against Russia.

    ... Ah, and everyone nodded amicably ... laughing

    Already the neck hurts to nod)))) We'll get to someday .. soldier

    Do not turn up, Meehan! Nod calmly.
  19. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 20 October 2018 11: 42
    +1
    Well, let them train themselves, especially since this pleasure costs a lot of money. And who is stopping Russia from demonstrating exercises to destroy American AUGs using the Dagger? I think it would be very instructive and effective for the Anglo-Saxons.
    1. keeper03
      keeper03 20 October 2018 12: 02
      -1
      Yes, especially considering the loss of the Kursk! drinks soldier
  20. keeper03
    keeper03 20 October 2018 11: 53
    +1
    I wish G. Truman to stumble over the tremendous iceberg ! fellow yes soldier
    1. gunnerminer
      gunnerminer 20 October 2018 12: 08
      -2
      In order to destroy at least half of the combat-ready AUGs, dozens of icebergs must be driven off and the whole numerous staff of the watch on the GKP and on the bridge should be given vodka. A good topic for a dissertation.
      1. Foxnova
        Foxnova 20 October 2018 21: 33
        0
        IMHO the role of the AUG in bringing democracy is exaggerated. Iraq was bombed from 3 aircraft carriers with 3 Karl in proving grounds. And then the bulk of the flights was from bases on the territory of the Allies. Ie it is necessary to drive at least 3 augas out of 11 and God forbid these Russians can sink 1 and if 2 what to do then So we’ll be demolished by the nuclear submarines and the AUG is so rattled
  21. Cycle boss
    Cycle boss 20 October 2018 12: 27
    +1
    Or maybe the Americans are cunning .. and they don’t specially build icebreakers, and wait for the glaciers to break up ?! :)
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 20 October 2018 14: 11
      0
      The current ones will not survive. stop negative
  22. ruha
    ruha 20 October 2018 12: 36
    0
    Does Russia have climate weapons for working in the Arctic?
  23. Anatoly R
    Anatoly R 20 October 2018 13: 34
    +1
    Well, let the kids frolic until there is no war. It’s unlikely to frolic there. Maybe they won’t even have time.
  24. Anatoly R
    Anatoly R 20 October 2018 14: 03
    0
    Quote: Anatoly R
    He flattered the amers. Only America will die.

    mvd ru (Ivan) Today, 07:52 AM NEW
    +5
    Well, what are you spreading propaganda here ??? Yes, at least let all the US AUG fit ...., the Guarantor said, "if something happens" we will die like martyrs, and YOU just DIE, that's all
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 October 2018 14: 09
    +2
    I would like to look at their deck crew in the winter, and even in the wind and snow with spray, pleasure is something else.
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 20 October 2018 14: 37
      +5
      something like this laughing laughing laughing
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 20 October 2018 14: 43
        +3
        It will be approximately the same. good what hi
        1. Mih1974
          Mih1974 20 October 2018 14: 46
          +1
          Actually, therefore, the avik ha in the polar circle is the height of idiocy and "comes to complete unpreparedness." If only stupid people revered as the Nazis got in a mess with fuel to -10 in 1941 near St. Petersburg !! fool
          And given the "erotic weather" I have no idea how they are going to launch something there. No.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 20 October 2018 14: 48
            +1
            Yes, let them try, while a man has not yet planted bruises and cones, he will not calm down.
            1. Mih1974
              Mih1974 20 October 2018 14: 51
              +1
              I would be glad to share your fun, only each of their "try" results in tens of thousands of corpses, and often not theirs - Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Angola, Somalia, Panama. And in Cuba, just a little before a nuclear war they didn’t bring it - they thought that we had no nuclear weapons there and "they will have nothing." fool
              1. Ros 56
                Ros 56 20 October 2018 15: 34
                0
                Alas, oh, as Yakubovich says. Tens of thousands of corpses are nothing compared to the deaths of the ancestors of today's African Americans, when they were carried in the holds of ships and plantations on the American continent, as well as millions of destroyed Indians. Just striped so far no one has billed for the death of people around the ball and they have it sitting in the subcortex, so they are trying to be a hegemon. But how much the rope does not curl, and the end will be and history will put everything in its place. It’s just a very long process. You did not expect that after more than three hundred years of history of joint coexistence, Ukrainians will soothe this.
        2. san4es
          san4es 20 October 2018 15: 15
          +1
          Quote: Ros 56
          It will be approximately the same. good what hi

          ... In addition, in those latitudes (at this time) often the weather is not flying.
          1. Mih1974
            Mih1974 20 October 2018 19: 14
            0
            In, well, American shit will take off, but HOW they will get into IT belay negative
  26. Mih1974
    Mih1974 20 October 2018 14: 36
    +1
    Forgive me this, I am "stupid" or the Americans who stuck the Avik in mm "not very extensive waters" and "if anything" then finding and drowning him there will be a trifling matter !! belay , moreover - is there the most underwater movement and how are they going to "protect" it? request
  27. Mentat
    Mentat 20 October 2018 15: 10
    +1
    Quote: Choi
    Their working day is not normalized - an example is taken from the Yapov. Use the rabsil until it is bent, and then it is relocated to cardboard boxes.
    You first work with 8.00 to 23.00, and then try to get up from your knees.


    Oh ... Isn't that why everyone from the Far East rushed to Korea to work? Moreover, the majority plow illegally in the country. For your information, people from the Russian Federation and the CIS are employed in most of the "black" jobs in Korea. So it's not about time, but about payment. If they paid the same amount here as there, the people would plow no worse than the Stakhanovites. In addition to accommodation, food, 5-day working week, 13 salaries and permanent allowances, they can also count on a separate overtime payment. With such conditions, I would not mind lifting the country from its knees.

    Well done. Only here the cash flows, which provide a visible standard of living in the manufacturing countries, at the current top management in the West, will not enter Russia on such a scale.
    And these countries are now financially dependent on those who brought this money there. Where these funds came from is another question. We have to decide everything on our own, and somehow hold on. At the same time, one should not lose sight of either foreign policy issues, or the internal situation, or social security.
  28. Е2 - Е4
    Е2 - Е4 20 October 2018 16: 50
    0
    One SQUALL torpedo fired from a black hole will send this U.S. aircraft carrier to the bottom
  29. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 20 October 2018 17: 53
    0
    Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
    Let's be honest, yes, Russia "staked out" those rich lands, but will the Russians begin to live richer and sweeter from those lands? ..... Think and scratch your head ....... No offense ......

    1% will definitely start, but it will not be us ...
  30. megadeth
    megadeth 20 October 2018 17: 59
    0
    And most importantly, like Russia, the NATO countries and the USA invited our observers to the exercises .... and then wild laughter ...
  31. tech3030
    tech3030 20 October 2018 18: 39
    0
    A large iceberg to board him!
  32. Foxnova
    Foxnova 20 October 2018 21: 30
    0
    IMHO the role of the AUG in bringing democracy is exaggerated. Iraq was bombed from 3 aircraft carriers with 3 Karl in proving grounds. And then the bulk of the flights was from bases on the territory of the Allies. Ie it is necessary to drive at least 3 augas out of 11 and God forbid these Russians can sink 1 and if 2 what to do then So we’ll be demolished by the nuclear submarines and the AUG is so rattled
  33. AshiSolo
    AshiSolo 21 October 2018 03: 04
    0
    Quote: gunnerminer
    There is no need to go to the AUG to Wrangel Island. Airplanes and cruise missiles will be sent there. In the late 60s and early 60s, American planes constantly plowed the expanses of the Soviet Arctic, until the USSR air defense learned to attack them competently.

    Today some awesome Gunya was put in prison. Normal, the one that is older and more weighted, would never write "attack". Hike again sits the one that quickly broke off on "be-be-be" :)
  34. kventinasd
    kventinasd 21 October 2018 15: 42
    0
    What a cool target for SF and VKS.
  35. Polkovnik parker
    Polkovnik parker 21 October 2018 16: 46
    0
    Now there are severe storms in that area, oh and the poor fellow will chat with them there.
  36. Immelman
    Immelman 21 October 2018 18: 01
    0
    Russia is being surrounded like a bear in a den.
  37. Topol M
    Topol M 21 October 2018 19: 12
    0
    What is the bazaar !! If something happens, all this will be sunk from one side and the other. There will be no winners in the 3rd world, I say this as KDS of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Strategic Missile Forces until 1988.