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Pay other people's debts, or another initiative of Alexei Kudrin

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Admit, first seeing the headlines of this newsI could not believe my eyes. She looked not only absurd, but also terribly harmful to the current government. But “razvidet” did not work - news portals continued to insist that someone offers to oblige the citizens of the Russian Federation to pay debts for utilities accumulated by their neighbors.


The very first acquaintance with the topic clarified the situation a bit: it turns out that a similar initiative was made by the Center for Strategic Research, headed by Alexei Kudrin. And these, of course, are capable of anything ... However, as it turned out with a deeper acquaintance with the initiative, the reality of its implementation comes to zero, which means that it makes sense only as an information torpedo, designed to hit Putin and the government once again.



First, we will calm everyone who thought that bona fide taxpayers will be obliged to pay literally all the debts of defaulters - no, this is not quite so. The initiative of Kudrinsky experts concerns only the payment of the so-called common property: its maintenance, care and so on. That is, we can talk about the maintenance of the entrance, its current repair, contributions for major repairs of the house, the queue for which will come in about thirty years, the cost of electricity (and in the entrance hall and basements of the house there is electricity), water (and you have to pay the difference between readings of a general-purpose meter and the amount of water actually consumed by tenants) and the like.

This approach gives this initiative some legitimacy: really, should someone pay for it? But on this, perhaps, it ends ...

As security for the debts of defaulters, it is supposed to impose arrest on the debtor's apartment. After the rest of the residents of the porch or house have paid his debt, they have the right to sue the defaulter, to sell his apartment and get the money spent back. That is, formally we are not talking about some kind of robbery.

But the fact is that Russian legislation is not very friendly towards those who want to take away the last from a person. In particular, it is impossible to evict a person from a single apartment. Especially in the case if it contains minors or people with disabilities, or some other categories of beneficiaries. The implementation of such an initiative will require making very serious changes to the country's legislation, to which the “party of power” will hardly agree, which has already received a powerful reputational blow as a result of dragging through the pension reform (also proposed by the Kudrinsky CSR).

There are other features of the legislation that call for such reform. For example, the Constitution of the Russian Federation unequivocally prohibits coercion to membership in any organization. This also applies to HOAs, which are a kind of “focus-group” of the proposed reform. You can not force the homeowner to join the HOA, especially if it is an old, still Soviet privatized apartment, of which the absolute majority in the country is now. Consequently, attempts to impose joint and several liability on it for someone’s debt, even if it is spelled out in the statutes of the Homeowners' Association, are doomed to failure.

In addition, a reasonable question arises: what if someone is already paying at the limit of their modest opportunities and new payments are simply not able to manage? How to deal with these people? Give them the right not to pay? But then the meaning of the whole reform is immediately lost - no one will pay, because no profit is foreseen from this, and in the future only going to the courts or paying lawyers' services. This means that bona fide taxpayers will have to be obliged to pay other people's debts. And if they are not able to do this, then they also become debtors?

The amazing feature of this proposal lies precisely in the fact that it will be a great irritant for everyone: the poor and the rich. If the pension reform had at least some supporters, then here you can probably expect complete national unity. And it will be directed against the government in all its forms. So, a reasonable question arises: is this the main goal of such an initiative?

Recently, there have been many such blows to the reputation of the Kremlin. This is a pension reform, the need for which has never been proven, and a recent initiative with the introduction of the social norm of electricity consumption, and an increase in VAT, and various small but unpleasant inlays in the media like the imminent disappearance of salt from the sale. And for anyone who closely observes what is happening in the country, a reasonable question arises: is it all part of a coordinated company preparing Russian “Maidan”?

In the 2014 year, when events began in Ukraine, I assumed that the West would most likely start not a quick but consistent game of discrediting the Russian authorities and Vladimir Putin personally. Then I called this strategy "A Thousand Easy Slaps to a Tyrant."

Four years have passed, and during this time we have had hundreds of opportunities to make sure that some similar tactic has been adopted by our opponents. Realizing that Putin’s Russia wasn’t fooling around, Washington focused on delivering hundreds of small but unpleasant blows to the Kremlin’s reputation. The base here is the sanctions that slow down the economic development of the country and beat the standard of living of millions of Russians, but the “superstructure” is just that, from not very painful, but degrading slaps.

Probably, we cannot even list them all. There are scandals with our intelligence, exposing our country as a loser, and judicial "tacks" of Ukraine, appearing in all international courts, and endless provocations in the Donbas, and the most powerful "hitting" of our athletes, and the possible autocephaly of Ukrainian schismatics, and so on. The most important thing in all these "slaps in the face" is that we cannot adequately answer them, we have to put up with the role of such a worldly "terpily", which, of course, does not add any credibility to either Vladimir Putin or his policy.

But, probably, even more painfully, we are experiencing slaps from our internal enemies - the intelligentsia, the self-styled "elite" and the economic "geniuses", who for a quarter of a century of the officially recognized liberal course could not provide Russia with any meaningful and steady progress. And in recent months, these "slaps in the face" have somehow become very much, they just pour on the Kremlin, which, for some strange reason, continues to endure all this.

Probably, we have no doubt that Mr. Kudrin’s new initiative has little chance of being accepted. Negatively already expressed in the State Duma - the relevant committee of the State Duma called this initiative contrary to the Civil Code. But still we will not rush to conclusions. Mr. Kudrin seems to have an undeservedly high trust in the Kremlin, and therefore no one would be surprised if the initiative starts to be seriously considered and discussed.

By the way, 10 of October, speaking at a meeting of the Board of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, Alexey Kudrin said that in order to reduce tensions with the West, Russia must make any concessions. The position of the West is known - this is, first of all, the return of the Crimea to Ukraine. That is, de facto, Mr. Kudrin called for a violation of Russia's territorial integrity.

And someone else doubts that detailed initiatives are deliberate, thoughtful and well coordinated? Alas, there is no doubt even about who coordinates them.

And one thing is not entirely clear: why is this gentleman still heading the Accounts Chamber, and not sitting in Lefortovo?
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  1. Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 October 2018 14: 11
    +38
    I have another offer, Kudrin himself and his state-owned company will pay the debts, and then through the court they will seek a return from the debtors. Everything is according to the law. good lol
    1. KLV2018
      KLV2018 16 October 2018 14: 15
      +19
      Quote: Ros 56
      I have another offer, Kudrin himself and his state-owned company will pay the debts, and then through the court they will seek a return from the debtors. Everything is according to the law. good lol

      Putin seems to have been completely retired. that is not an offer, then a "holiday" for people.
      A lame duck, she is also a lame duck in Africa.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 16 October 2018 14: 17
        +30
        Kudrin (and all his "curls") should be in jail! If, of course, Russia really is - i.e. for the truth - it is not a pro-American colony and does not have external control over itself!
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 October 2018 14: 38
          +7
          However, as it turned out during a deeper acquaintance with the initiative, the reality of its implementation is equal to zero, which means that it only makes sense as an information torpedo, designed once again to hit the reputation of Putin and the government.

          If our government had a REPUTATION, then we could doubt, at least somehow!
          And with the fact that they HAVE, we are ready to immediately stand on its hind legs, not understanding at all. and what is really there!
          The question is who is to blame!
        2. Glory1974
          Glory1974 16 October 2018 15: 58
          +7
          Unless, of course, Russia really - i.e. in truth, it is not a pro-American colony and has no external control over itself!

          So it seems that we have already discussed it and everyone understands that Russia is under external control.
        3. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 16 October 2018 17: 40
          +6
          Rest assured, Russian rule is pro-Western. If only because he keeps his money in the West and the West, at any moment, can take this money away. And for "honestly earned", our officials will bury anyone. True, then they themselves will be stripped by the keepers of their money, but they hardly believe in this. And besides, personally to someone, they can promise the inviolability of money. But the Anglo-Saxons are like - "To promise does not mean to marry."
        4. milling machine
          milling machine 17 October 2018 06: 14
          +8
          Quote: Tatiana
          Kudrin (and all his "curls") should be in jail!

          And Putin is included in this "curl"? And it turns out again, "the king is good and the boyars are bad." He appoints them, they push through anti-people laws and still Vova is good.
          As a people, I have not yet included logical thinking about cause and effect relationships.
    2. venik
      venik 16 October 2018 18: 21
      +6
      Quote: Ros 56
      I have another offer, Kudrin himself and his state-owned company will pay the debts, and then through the court they will seek a return from the debtors. Everything is according to the law. good

      ===========
      Lord Well, why are these U..ODYs so alike?
      He worked for a "firm" ... So we have an "owner" (chairman of the "supervisory board") - "one to one" !!! Like "twin brothers"! I would have seen on the street - I would have confused .... And the same bastard !!! am
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 October 2018 22: 53
      +2
      Kudrin had to be sent to the timeless one, instead of Yareska.
    4. cradle
      cradle 18 October 2018 11: 42
      0
      Bravo!!! Bis!!! As you know: the initiative has initiators
  2. alexsipin
    alexsipin 16 October 2018 14: 15
    +6
    Some garbage. Utility payments are debts to the CITY, and not to neighbors, the district or HOA. If the debt is not paid, then the city sues, the debt is paid at the expense of the debtor’s apartment, and minors, old people, etc., move to a social apartment. They have a roof over their heads.
    1. Sotskiy
      Sotskiy 16 October 2018 18: 23
      0
      Quote: alexsipin
      Some garbage. Utility payments are debts to the CITY, and not to neighbors, the district or HOA. If the debt is not paid, then the city sues, the debt is paid at the expense of the debtor’s apartment, and minors, old people, etc., move to a social apartment.

      No bullshit! laughing
      Here we were talking about common house boards, and this is the prerogative of HOA. HOA will sue the owner for unpaid general household expenses and it does not matter if the owner is a member of the HOA or not! fellow But if the HOA does not pay utility bills for negligent owners, then the whole house will suffer, since all arrears + penalties + legal expenses from the general account of the HOA will be exacted in court, where the whole house is dumped on current expenses. I’m telling you as the chairman of the HOA. For this, the HOA (that is, everything) will pay for any communal services, and then deal with the debtors yourselflol Something like this.
      1. vatov
        vatov 18 October 2018 12: 48
        +3
        Homeowners' associations are already paying for non-payers, where common household metering devices are installed, they are scattered for general household expenses, otherwise it will be bad for everyone except non-payers .....
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 18 October 2018 13: 22
          0
          Quote: vatov
          Homeowners' associations are already paying for non-payers, where common household metering devices are installed, they are scattered for general household expenses, otherwise it will be bad for everyone except non-payers .....

          I'm writing about it smile hi
        2. vatov
          vatov 18 October 2018 17: 19
          0
          Put a bold plus.
    2. venik
      venik 16 October 2018 18: 34
      0
      Quote: alexsipin
      Some kind of garbage.

      =========
      Alex! I recommend that you read Arthur Haley's novel "Short Circuit" (in some editions it is called "Reboot")
      He is also the author of the "industrial novels" "Airport", "Wheels", etc.) ...
      It is very interestingly written there ........
  3. credo
    credo 16 October 2018 14: 19
    +4
    As for the non-payers in any apartment building, I can only say one thing - with the current restrictions on eviction and collection of debts from such a non-payer, there are practically no effective measures to actually force the non-payer to pay bills. So far, of the effective methods of collecting such debts, there is only one way, but it is essentially illegal, criminal, and simply livestock - this is how you understand the collection method.
    Regarding the various "initiatives" that our deputies, ministers, liberals from the trough and other "pros" have been giving out in recent years, then we must admit that they do not shine with special elegance and are aimed only at closing the gaps in their "work" with money from the pockets of taxpayers. Not original, but effective, for now.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 16 October 2018 15: 41
      +2
      They are already paying for their neighbors, for example, they were in Novorossiysk, where a woman who rented an apartment on Lenin Avenue complained that the debts of non-payers for water, electricity, etc. are spread over the rest of the tenants, designating them as "common house expenses." Moreover, the main non-paying nationals, like they have children, cannot be driven out into the street, but someone has to pay for their consumption. By the way, there seems to be even some local law on this matter. Maybe someone from this city will be able to confirm or deny this information?
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 16 October 2018 20: 16
        +3
        Quote: Snail N9
        They are already paying for their neighbors, for example, they were in Novorossiysk, where a woman who rented an apartment on Lenin Avenue complained that the debts of non-payers for water, electricity, etc. are being spread over the rest of the tenants, labeling them as "common house expenses." Maybe someone from this city will be able to confirm or deny this information?

        This is not only in Novorossiysk, it is everywhere. In our country, for example, for electricity for general household consumption, the local energy supply distributes and charges these costs to those who submitted meter readings on time (up to the number-th date) and the owners pay these costs taking into account the consumption of the personal metering device, and those who are "late" for them these costs are not charged until the readings are given, but the monthly consumption has already been billed. lol Therefore, "latecomers" pay next month (if they deign to testify), since the recalculation is made not in the current month, but in the next month. Such a delay at the expense of neighbors is obtained for "latecomers" lol ... And if a "malicious" does not give evidence at all, then everyone pays for him until effective measures of influence are applied to this "comrade".
        By the way, the bulk of the debt are those who change cars at least a million in value every year. So we live at the expense of honest and poor request
    2. Sandor Clegane
      Sandor Clegane 16 October 2018 15: 47
      +3
      Quote: credo
      then I can only say one thing - under the current restrictions on eviction and debt collection from such a non-payer, there are practically no effective measures to actually force the non-payer to pay bills.

      I am the chairman of the council of an apartment building - and I confirm your words !!
      1. Imobile
        Imobile 17 October 2018 11: 18
        +1
        And what do we condemn? Stuffing? The purpose of this article was to say that Putin is white and fluffy, and there are enemies around who are trying to pour mud on him. Do not be distracted by citizens! Anyway, the author overdid it, it turned out that Putin was stupid, ready to deceive himself over and over again. To the author a question, why do we need this Putin then?
  4. 210ox
    210ox 16 October 2018 14: 21
    +20
    After the Kremlin’s support for pension reform, the image of the authorities is no longer in danger ... No.
    1. mavrus
      mavrus 16 October 2018 14: 56
      +9
      Why, only the pension reform affects the image? We are in power, from the "triad of the State Department" Kudrin, I would not be surprised that Navalny will soon be attached, and there they will forgive Khodor and ask for power.
      Along with the State Department agents, we still have "beautiful girls" annealed ... (I am already silent about ministers who regularly grab material help, and advise them to live on 3,5 thousand).
      Skvortsova, who ruined all insurance medicine, and for some reason believes that the letters on cigarette packs are her only concern in the post of Minister of Health, and all her other "zeal for the people" are simply pumping money out of patients and doctors.
      Panfilova, according to her, she worked so well ... that the ballots were thrown almost openly. But the main thing is that who "shouldn't" did not pass.
      Well, Khabibulin already has no censorship words. To fail completely after the Crimean four-year period, it is necessary to have outstanding talent.
      We also have in reserve ... And the greed of the oil and gas oligarchs, and the powerlessness of their authorities to somehow restrain them ... And many, many more ...
    2. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 16 October 2018 17: 45
      +3
      Power merely reflects the interests of the ruling class. Which class is ruling? That's right - capitalists! Any questions? Under capitalism, there is NO LIFE improvement if capitalism is not in danger. Nothing and no one threatens him now. The USSR no longer exists. When will you see? I understand that the propaganda on TV is powerful, one "direct" communication with the president is worth a lot, but nobody bothers you to think.
  5. AA17
    AA17 16 October 2018 14: 22
    +6
    "... and not sitting in Lefortovo? ..." (c) The answer to this question is simple. Either Kudrin has a "security certificate" or he has levers (strict collar) on himself.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 16 October 2018 14: 40
      +1
      But who will send him and many others? He is a monument!
  6. Gardamir
    Gardamir 16 October 2018 14: 28
    +11
    Who wanted to see this "net" in power? Who invited him to top positions? So please express your indignation at the address. The pistol does not fire itself, someone pulls the trigger.
  7. Koshel2901
    Koshel2901 16 October 2018 14: 43
    +3
    But is it time, at least, to prepare Poklonskaya for the presidency, the only one with character.
  8. shubin
    shubin 16 October 2018 14: 44
    +19

    Something like that.
  9. Barmal
    Barmal 16 October 2018 14: 47
    +10
    And one thing is not entirely clear: why is this gentleman still heading the Accounts Chamber, and not sitting in Lefortovo?
    why?" You don't even have to ask, the answer is that our own elite, which rose in the 90s, hates us, because it was due to population that it rose. I.e. the elite longs for the destruction of those to whom it owes.
  10. Galleon
    Galleon 16 October 2018 14: 49
    +7
    Realizing that Putin could not be blamed for Putin, Russia focused on delivering hundreds of small but unpleasant blows to the Kremlin’s reputation.

    That’s what the author cannot deny, that’s courage. Feel free to tell us that they took away the pension - it is Washington's fault. Fuel prices will be boosted next year - America is raising prices for us.
    The government is discussing the issue of completing new buildings with an aluminum cable instead of a copper one (although it is fire hazardous, but we will support RUSAL) - well, it’s clear to everyone that sanctions are harmful.
    I would like to advise the author to safely start taking any medications for the head. No matter which - the main thing - feel free to accept. I am sure that both the Kremlin and the author’s articles will sparkle with new colors.
  11. Paul Bayan
    Paul Bayan 16 October 2018 14: 57
    +3
    Lesion. Why millions of curses and the recipient do not reach. For good luck ... glassy gloom for you both in rat skin and garbage. Burn, burn. Clear.
  12. pepel
    pepel 16 October 2018 15: 20
    +3
    Kudrin and his associates are a gopota that they will hang ten times, and only for the eleventh they will hang on the present so that they feel all the delights of the nonsense they offer. GOD will give such a moment. Putin leaves at 24. negative
    1. AUL
      AUL 16 October 2018 19: 42
      0
      Quote: pepel
      Putin leaves at 24.

      Are you sure?
      1. Alf
        Alf 16 October 2018 22: 10
        0
        Quote: AUL
        Quote: pepel
        Putin leaves at 24.

        Are you sure?

        Not for nothing about the constitutional reform, the conversation went.
  13. Moore
    Moore 16 October 2018 15: 26
    +2
    And someone else doubts that detailed initiatives are deliberate, thoughtful and well coordinated? Alas, there is no doubt even about who coordinates them.

    It seems to me that if comrade the First really wanted to, they would invite this beacon of liberalism in all areas to the appropriate institution and read to him an operational report on Moscow time: who was shot down by a madly running tower crane, who swallowed the plug, who drowned in his own toilet. And he would shut up as cute.
    Why is his mouth not shut up and allowed to flourish to this day?
    In my opinion, it's all about crappy PR people, no better than those that Zolotov and his Gelik have. Someone who enjoys the absolute trust of the Darkest One (and maybe he himself) convinced him of the usefulness of such coprophages for the general picture of democracy and glasnost. And the fact that the people associate Kudrin with his speeches directly with the authorities is simply ignored by these "geniuses".
  14. Machito
    Machito 16 October 2018 15: 45
    +5
    Only deaf and dumb deaf people do not know about theft in housing and communal services. Now Moscow is doing overhaul of houses, which will be demolished in two years according to the renovation program.
  15. vanavatny
    vanavatny 16 October 2018 15: 56
    +14
    and again, the president’s inner circle, without hiding, is preparing a sudden blow to his reputation ... oooh, treacherous boyars, but nothing, soon a TV show, I’ll get through, I’ll open my eyelids to the priest ...
    1. Alf
      Alf 16 October 2018 22: 09
      +1
      Quote: vanavate
      I’ll get through, I’ll open my eyelids to my father ...

      All, all express, do not hide anything, let him know how the people live beyond the MKAD. hi
  16. Hypatius
    Hypatius 16 October 2018 16: 26
    +6
    ... but is not all this part of a coordinated company preparing the Russian Maidan?
    In 2014, when events began in Ukraine, I suggested that the West is likely to start a not quick, but consistent game to discredit the Russian authorities and personally Vladimir Putin.
    IMHO since 2008 the Russian authorities have been playing a consistent game of preparing the "Russian Maidan". Maybe earlier, but in 2008 I personally had this feeling, which is only getting stronger.
  17. Fitter65
    Fitter65 16 October 2018 17: 10
    0
    Honestly, he was late with his initiative. In the distant, God forbid memory, it seems like in 2002, the military town of Khurba, the meeting of the head of the Komsomolsky region to the question ... and why do we have such high prices for heating? Answer -You the military regularly receive money that you pay at the expense of our taxes, and I still have several villages without heating. I don’t remember which year to kill, but at our airport the stoker was transferred from fuel oil to gas. we were told in a military town, candidates for rulers, what cheap heating we would have as soon as the boiler room switched to gas. Launched, such a cheers, a holiday !!! A month later, a receipt arrived. Heating on gas cost us 2,5 times more than on fuel oil. To the question of the elected ruler, how so? The answer was such, because someone had to compensate for the costs of the district. So the most interesting thing is that apart from the military town, both the stoker and Khurba and Molodezhka were heated ... So this boy was late with his offer.
  18. Digital error
    Digital error 16 October 2018 17: 28
    +10
    I will support the author - the number of anti-people initiatives and sayings lately simply goes off scale and this cannot be an accident. Today, for example, Gref said that the country does not need physical schools as a relic of the Soviet past. And I guess why - not only does propaganda do not work on people with an analytical mindset, they are also able to keep the capitalists on their toes, asking them uncomfortable questions ...
  19. Mwg
    Mwg 16 October 2018 18: 47
    0
    Government decree No. 354 and so bends the consumer under the supplier of utilities at the very least, rumors about changes in the Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation are persistent in part to allow foreclosure on the only housing, and then there is this news. I am far from being "all-out", but somehow everything is one to one ...
  20. Conductor
    Conductor 16 October 2018 19: 33
    +1
    Does he offer joint responsibility for the property of others? Let, then, be jointly and severally liable for Ulyukaev, Vasiliev, and where is his family, Kudrina.
  21. faiver
    faiver 16 October 2018 19: 58
    +3
    I’m tired of these geniuses, everyone has been working on Kolyma for a couple of years, even if they’re not working with them, they’ll live without the Internet, without official cars, pasta with soya stew and toilets on the street, you see, the brains will start working in the right direction .. .
  22. AB
    AB 16 October 2018 20: 45
    +1
    Author wake up! Already a long time ago at the entrance of the plumbing and electricity in the house are common house counters. And the whole house pays the difference of cubic meters and kilowatts between the one who came into the house and those who were paid by the tenants, sharing this difference for all.
    1. Bigbraza
      16 October 2018 22: 32
      +2
      Quote: AB
      Author wake up! Already a long time ago at the entrance of the plumbing and electricity in the house are common house counters. And the whole house pays the difference of cubic meters and kilowatts between the one who came into the house and those who were paid by the tenants, sharing this difference for all.

      Maybe you better read to learn? The point is not that the tenants pay the general expenses of the house - this has really been realized a long time ago and the article says so. But now these costs are equally allocated to all. And if the Kudrin initiative is implemented, the debt accumulated by Vasya’s neighbor can hang on you.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 17 October 2018 06: 57
        +1
        In fact, it is supposed, just, to legislate payment by ALL tenants of the house of Vasya's debt. Now, this practice, as I understand it, is already applied everywhere, both by housing and communal services and by companies providing "services", but according to their "podzabornye" or "local" acts, and therefore, it is already proposed, officially, to legalize this practice by adopting a law.
  23. Alf
    Alf 16 October 2018 22: 06
    +1
    designed once again to hit the reputation of Putin and the government.

    Recently, there have been many such blows to the Kremlin’s reputation.

    Realizing that Putin’s Russia cannot be blamed,

    The song is the same, Putin has nothing to do with it, it's all bad boyars.
    by no means adds credibility to either Vladimir Putin or his politics.

    What is Putin's policy, where did he get it from?
    And one thing is not entirely clear: why is this gentleman still heading the Accounts Chamber, and not sitting in Lefortovo?

    Because "we don't give up ours."
    Recently, there have been many such blows to the Kremlin’s reputation. This is pension reform,
    And who gave this reform a start in life? No, no, that you, this is not a good Putin, this is a bad Medvedev ...
  24. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 16 October 2018 22: 15
    +2
    Dear Russians .... did you think that eta game is going on only with you? No, it’s everywhere in the world, only with different nuances. And in a day I want to hang my government on the streetlights, but no use. Neoliberalism is the same with us and with you.
  25. swyatoslav
    swyatoslav 16 October 2018 22: 50
    +3
    How zadolbal they are, these liberoids .... pragmatic economists, damn it!
    Before appointing an official, one must introduce a compulsory internship at a living wage of 6 months.
    With accommodation on the ground floor in an apartment building in a residential area.
    Across the city from work.
    And without personal transport!
  26. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 17 October 2018 07: 35
    +3
    And one thing is not entirely clear: why is this gentleman still heading the Accounts Chamber, and not sitting in Lefortovo?
    It's very simple. In the middle of the "holy 90s" one deputy. Mr. Sobchak was left without work. And then another former deputy, who fled to Moscow in time, gave him the position of deputy manager of the Administrative Office of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation. Do you need to name the surnames, or guess yourself?
  27. nikvic46
    nikvic46 17 October 2018 09: 52
    0
    I am a dreamer. In our country, only one person should be exempt from taxes on various types of property
    in the country. This is the head of state. He alone must be exempted from customs inspection. For other officials of different ranks, a tax on moving and real estate property. When traveling abroad, even a minister, even a simple citizen must present paid taxes for a house, an apartment and other taxes.
    Taxes must be paid not only by high-ranking officials, but also by ministries, institutions, and administrations. We will come to this someday.
  28. Radikal
    Radikal 17 October 2018 22: 27
    +1

    And one thing is not entirely clear: why is this gentleman still heading the Accounts Chamber, and not sitting in Lefortovo?
    Because he, as well as Chubais, and a couple of other people "created" the President of the Russian Federation. sad
  29. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 18 October 2018 01: 15
    +2
    Quote: Tatiana
    Kudrin (and all his "curls") should be in jail! If, of course, Russia really is - i.e. for the truth - it is not a pro-American colony and does not have external control over itself!

    One day:
    Deputies retained higher pensions, rest Kudrin guarantees poverty


  30. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 18 October 2018 06: 20
    +1
    Somehow in our country, as with that elk that slurps out of the stream from a hangover (probably after the fly agarics that the moose devour after all) ... And the hunter forces the elk from the carbine ... "Strange, - the elk thinks, - the more I drink, the worse and worse ... ".
  31. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 18 October 2018 06: 25
    +1
    But do you know that criticizing the authorities is a state criminal offense, but smuggling is an administrative offense.
    But they give a fine for a bribe, for which there is enough money from past bribes?
  32. stalki
    stalki 18 October 2018 07: 44
    -2
    I think the article is another cry and accumulation of all the fans. The Kremlin themselves will understand what anyone can, or need. And we do not own the information in full.
  33. Zolotse
    Zolotse 18 October 2018 10: 34
    0
    Yesterday I was told by our Homeowners Association why I had such charges on my receipts. For example, we have a two-story apartment of 200 sq. M. m, there are already 800 thousand debt. 000 times the HOA tried to recover through the court. And there is the only housing and 4 minors. And now pay for them with the whole house.
    1. Goto
      Goto 19 October 2018 13: 28
      0
      So the HOA let them turn off the electricity and push the pear into the canal.
  34. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 18 October 2018 14: 03
    0
    Kudrin is a deputy of the State Department, working according to the Western model of development, he was put in opposition to the authorities, and it seems that the Kremlin is not able to influence this, and if so, then after the departure of the GDP there will be something very bad, unexpected and mean for the country that can lead the country to civil war (which the State Department dreams of) ... the silence and patronage of Putin such as Kudrin and his company is simply unacceptable!
  35. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 18 October 2018 18: 13
    0
    It’s time for Kudrin to stand up, it’s time and for a long time. Let the gauntlets sew ... laughing tongue wassat
  36. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 18 October 2018 18: 17
    -1
    Quote: Koshel2901
    But is it time, at least, to prepare Poklonskaya for the presidency, the only one with character.

    Well, you are naive1 But who will let it go then? Pu is a protege of the oligarchs and that’s it.
  37. iouris
    iouris 18 October 2018 20: 27
    0
    Yes, he is a Latvian from Dobele.
  38. AleBors
    AleBors 19 October 2018 09: 47
    0
    Kudrin says what he is told. The country's leadership tacitly agrees with or does not comment on all its proposals. This implies a salary conclusion, and they both receive at the same box office.
  39. Wizzzard
    Wizzzard 19 October 2018 21: 40
    0
    Well, so they rush oparafin GlavSterha, and they want to substitute the bandwagon. And with the pension reform, about which he didn’t even dream of spirit (though he was surprised to learn that the result on the attendants would be negative - not a thing, the electorate would pay extra). Yes, and Lesha Kudrin Sam-Samych is not a stranger (who at one time brought the GDP from St. Petersburg to Moscow, and also added a solid one). Generally...
  40. serge siberian
    serge siberian 21 October 2018 18: 26
    0
    And one thing is not entirely clear: why is this gentleman still heading the Accounts Chamber, and not sitting in Lefortovo?
    When this citizen was removed from the ministers, I remember this in his biography, I thought it was "they will be imprisoned," but no, they did not. And today it will be like the last time. When the education system from the past, the USSR, is returned to schools and universities, Then the country will be freed from external control. And the official who was caught by the hand of serving a real term with confiscation of property, then we will begin to raise our heads and the economy, and first of all, the well-being of the common people. soldier
  41. earloop
    earloop 22 October 2018 13: 14
    0
    I don’t want to think so badly about Kudrin, but all his actions in the past and present are perceived as actions of a petty nature, supposedly caring for the interests of the country, but it is not known: whose country? Maybe. - Russia, or maybe some other country? Why Kudrin says: "Russia must make any concessions." but as a member of the Government, he should give well-grounded suggestions, based on which an appropriate conclusion could be made. And so he presented himself as a member, but not in the Government!
  42. Sergei75
    Sergei75 22 October 2018 21: 28
    -1
    Businessmen they are bad! They know exactly where to get the money from the people, there isn’t much mind! Industry and production are not going to be developed, although China has already surpassed us in terms of income and therefore the labor force in Russia is cheaper than in China!