The fall of Constantinople and the Byzantine Empire

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The fall of Constantinople and the Byzantine Empire

29 May 1453, the capital of the Byzantine Empire, fell under the blows of the Turks. Tuesday 29 May is one of the most important dates of the world stories. On this day, the Byzantine Empire, founded back in 395, ceased to exist due to the final division of the Roman Empire after the death of Emperor Theodosius I into the western and eastern parts. With her death ended a huge period of human history. In the lives of many peoples of Europe, Asia and North Africa came a radical change, due to the establishment of Turkish rule and the creation of the Ottoman Empire.

It is clear that the fall of Constantinople is not a clear distinction between two epochs. Turks even a century before the fall of the great capital established in Europe. And by the time of the fall, the Byzantine Empire was already a fragment of its former greatness - the power of the emperor extended only to Constantinople with its suburbs and part of the territory of Greece with islands. Byzantine 13-15 of centuries can be called an empire only conditionally. At the same time, Constantinople was a symbol of the ancient empire, considered to be the “Second Rome”.

Prehistory of the fall

In the XIII century, one of the Turkic tribes - Kayy - led by Ertogrul Bey, squeezed out from the nomads in the Turkmen steppes, migrated to the western direction and stopped in Asia Minor. The tribe assisted the sultan of the largest of the Turkish states (it was founded by the Seljuk Turks) - the Rumsky (Koni) sultanate - Alaeddin Kay-Kubad in his struggle with the Byzantine Empire. For this, the sultan gave Ertogrulu to the Lena land in the area of ​​Bithynia. The son of the leader Ertogrul - Osman I (1281 — 1326), despite constantly growing power, recognized his dependence on Konya. Only in 1299, he took the title of Sultan and soon subdued the entire western part of Asia Minor, winning a number of victories over the Byzantines. By the name of Sultan Osman, his subjects became known as Ottoman Turks, or Ottomans (Ottomans). In addition to the wars with the Byzantines, the Ottomans fought for the subordination of other Muslim possessions - by 1487, the Ottoman Turks had established their authority over all the Muslim possessions of the Asia Minor Peninsula.

A large role in strengthening the power of Osman and his successors was played by the Muslim clergy, including local orders of dervishes. The clergy not only played a significant role in the creation of a new great power, but justified the policy of expansion as a “struggle for faith”. In 1326, the Ottoman Turks seized the largest trade city of Bursa, the most important transit point for trade between the West and the East. Then Nikea and Nicomedia fell. Lands seized from the Byzantines, the sultans handed out to nobles and distinguished soldiers in the quality of the Timar - conditional possessions obtained for the performance of service (estates). Gradually, the Timar system became the basis of the socio-economic and military administrative structure of the Ottoman Power. Under Sultan Orhan I (reigned from 1326 to 1359 years) and his son Murad I (reigned from 1359 to 1389 years) important military reforms were carried out: the irregular cavalry was reorganized - the cavalry and infantry troops summoned from the Turkish farmers were created. The soldiers of the cavalry and infantry in peacetime were farmers, receiving benefits, during the war were required to come into the army. In addition, the army was supplemented by the militia of the peasants of the Christian faith and the corps of the Janissaries. The janissaries initially took captive Christian young men who were forced to convert to Islam, and from the first half of the 15 century, from the sons of Christian subjects of the Ottoman Sultan (as a special tax). Sipahs (a kind of noblemen of the Ottoman state, receiving income from the Timar) and the Janissaries became the core of the army of the Ottoman Sultans. In addition, divisions of gunners, gunsmiths, and other units were created in the army. As a result, a powerful power arose on the borders of Byzantium, which claimed dominance in the region.

It must be said that the Byzantine Empire and the Balkan states themselves accelerated their fall. During this period, there was a sharp struggle between Byzantium, Genoa, Venice and the Balkan states. Often the fighting parties sought to enlist the military support of the Ottomans. Naturally, this greatly facilitated the expansion of the Ottoman state. The Ottomans received information about the ways, possible crossings, fortifications, strengths and weaknesses of enemy troops, the internal situation, etc. The Christians themselves helped cross the straits to Europe.

The Ottoman Turks achieved great success under Sultan Murad II (reigned in 1421–1444 and 1446–1451). Under him, the Turks recovered from the heavy defeat inflicted by Tamerlan in the Battle of Angora in 1402. In many ways, this defeat delayed the death of Constantinople for half a century. The Sultan crushed all the revolts of Muslim rulers. In June 1422, Murad besieged Constantinople, but could not take it. Said no fleet and powerful artillery. In 1430, the large city of Thessaloniki in northern Greece was captured, it belonged to the Venetians. Murad II won a number of important victories on the Balkan Peninsula, significantly expanding the possession of his power. So in October 1448, a battle took place on the Kosovo field. In this battle, the Ottoman army confronted the combined forces of Hungary and Wallachia under the command of the Hungarian general Janos Hunyadi. A fierce three-day battle ended with the complete victory of the Ottomans, and decided the fate of the Balkan peoples - for several centuries they were under the rule of the Turks. After this battle, the crusaders suffered a final defeat and no longer made serious attempts to recapture the Balkan Peninsula from the Ottoman Empire. The fate of Constantinople was decided, the Turks were able to solve the problem of capturing the ancient city. Byzantium itself no longer posed a great threat to the Turks, but a coalition of Christian countries, relying on Constantinople, could cause significant harm. The city was located almost in the middle of the Ottoman possessions, between Europe and Asia. The task of capturing Constantinople was decided by Sultan Mehmed II.

Byzantium. Byzantine power to the 15 century, lost most of their possessions. The whole XIV century was a period of political failures. For several decades it seemed that Serbia would be able to seize Constantinople. Various internal divisions were a constant source of civil wars. So the Byzantine emperor John V Palaeologus (who ruled from 1341 - 1391 years) was overthrown from the throne three times: with his father-in-law, his son and then his grandson. In 1347, an epidemic of "black death" swept, which claimed the lives of at least one third of the population of Byzantium. The Turks crossed over to Europe, and taking advantage of the turmoil of Byzantium and the Balkan countries, by the end of the century reached the Danube. As a result, Constantinople was surrounded almost from all sides. In 1357, the Turks seize Gallipoli, in 1361, Adrianople, who became the center of the Turkish possessions on the Balkan Peninsula. In 1368, Sultan Murad I obeyed Nissa (the country residence of the Byzantine emperors), and the Ottomans were already under the walls of Constantinople.

In addition, there was the problem of the struggle of supporters and opponents of the union with the Catholic Church. For many Byzantine politicians, it was obvious that without the help of the West, the empire could not survive. Back in 1274, the Byzantine Emperor Michael VIII promised the Pope to seek reconciliation of the churches for political and economic reasons at the Lyon Cathedral. True, his son, the emperor Andronicus II, convened a council of the eastern church, which rejected the decisions of the Lyons cathedral. Then John Palaeologus traveled to Rome, where he solemnly accepted the faith according to the Latin rite, but received no help from the West. The supporters of the union with Rome were mostly politicians or belonged to the intellectual elite. The open enemies of the union were the lower clergy. John VIII Palaeologus (Byzantine emperor in 1425 — 1448) believed that Constantinople could be saved only with the help of the West, so he tried to conclude a union with the Roman church as quickly as possible. In the 1437 year, together with the patriarch and the delegation of Orthodox bishops, the Byzantine emperor went to Italy and spent there more than two years without a break, first in Ferrara, and then at the Ecumenical Council in Florence. At these meetings, both sides often came to a standstill and were ready to stop the negotiations. But John forbade his bishops to leave the council before making a compromise decision. In the end, the Orthodox delegation was forced to cede to Catholics on almost all major issues. 6 July 1439 was adopted by the Union of Florence, and the Eastern churches were reunited with Latin. True, the union turned out to be fragile; after a few years, many Orthodox hierarchs present at the Council began to openly deny their agreement with the union or to say that the decisions of the Council were caused by bribing and threats from Catholics. As a result, the union was rejected by most eastern churches. Most clergy and people did not accept this union. In 1444, the Pope was able to organize a crusade against the Turks (the Hungarians were the main force), but under Varna the crusaders suffered a crushing defeat.

Disputes about the union took place against the backdrop of the economic decline of the country. Constantinople of the end of 14 century was a sad city, a city of decay and destruction. The loss of Anatolia deprived the capital of the empire of almost all agricultural land. The population of Constantinople, which in the XII century numbered 1 million people (along with suburbs), fell to 100 thousand and continued to decline - by the time of the fall in the city was about 50 thousand people. The suburb on the Asian shore of the Bosporus was seized by the Turks. The outskirts of Per (Galata) on the other side of the Golden Horn, was a colony of Genoa. The city itself is surrounded by a wall in 14 miles, lost a number of quarters. In fact, the city turned into several separate settlements, separated by gardens, gardens, abandoned parks, ruins of buildings. Many had their walls, fences. The most populous villages were located on the banks of the Golden Horn. The richest quarter, adjacent to the Gulf, belonged to the Venetians. Nearby were the streets where people from the West lived - Florentines, Ankontses, Raguzians, Catalans and Jews. But, the piers and bazaars were still full of traders from Italian cities, Slavic and Muslim lands. Every year, pilgrims arrived in the city, mostly from Russia.



The last years before the fall of Constantinople, preparation for war

The last emperor of Byzantium was Constantine XI Palaeologus (who ruled in 1449 — 1453). Before becoming emperor he was a despot of Morea - the Greek province of Byzantium. Konstantin had a sound mind, was a good warrior and administrator. He had the gift of evoking the love and respect of his subjects, he was met in the capital with great joy. The short years of his rule, he was engaged in preparing Constantinople for a siege, seeking help and union in the West, and trying to calm the unrest caused by the union with the Roman Church. His first minister and commander-in-chief of the fleet he appointed Luca Notaras.

Sultan Mehmed II received the throne in 1451. He was a purposeful, energetic, intelligent man. Although initially it was thought to be a young man not glittering with talents, that was the impression from the first attempt at reigning in 1444 — 1446, when his father Murad II (he transferred the throne to his son to move away from public affairs) had to return to the throne to resolve the problems. This calmed the European rulers, all had enough problems. Already in winter 1451 — 1452. Sultan Mehmed ordered the construction of a fortress at the narrowest point of the Bosphorus to be launched, thereby cutting Constantinople from the Black Sea. The Byzantines were confused - this was the first step towards a siege. An embassy was sent with a reminder of the oath of the Sultan, who promised to preserve the territorial integrity of Byzantium. The embassy was left unanswered. Constantine sent messengers with gifts and asked not to touch the Greek villages located on the Bosphorus. Sultan ignored this mission. In June, a third embassy was sent — this time the Greeks were arrested and then beheaded. In fact, it was a declaration of war.

By the end of August 1452, the fortress of Bogaz-Kesen ("cutting the strait", or "cutting the throat") was built. Powerful guns were installed in the fortress and a ban was declared on passing the Bosphorus without inspection. Two Venetian ships were driven off and a third drowned. The crew was beheaded, and the captain was impaled - this dispelled all illusions about Mehmed's intentions. The actions of the Ottomans caused concern not only in Constantinople. Venetians in the Byzantine capital belonged to a whole quarter, they had significant privileges and benefits from trade. It was clear that after the fall of Constantinople, the Turks would not stop, under the blow were the possessions of Venice in Greece and the Aegean Sea. The problem was that the Venetians were stuck in the costly war in Lombardy. The union was impossible with Genoa, relations with Rome were strained. Yes, and with the Turks did not want to spoil relations - the Venetians conducted profitable trade in the Ottoman ports. Venice allowed Constantine to recruit soldiers and sailors in Crete. In general, Venice has maintained neutrality about the time of this war.

Genoa was in about the same situation. The fate of Pera and the Black Sea colonies caused concern. The Genoese, like the Venetians, showed flexibility. The government appealed to the Christian world to send help to Constantinople, but they themselves did not render such support. Private citizens have the right to act on their own. The administrations of Pera and the island of Chios were instructed to adhere to the Turkish policy as they deem most appropriate in this situation.

Raguzane - residents of the city of Raguz (Dubrovnik), as well as the Venetians, recently received confirmation from the Byzantine emperor of their privileges in Constantinople. But the Dubrovnik Republic did not want to put its trade in Ottoman ports at risk. In addition, the city-state fleet was small and did not want to risk it, if there is no broad coalition of Christian states.

Pope Nicholas V (head of the Catholic Church from 1447 to 1455 a year), receiving a letter from Constantine with the consent to accept the union, vainly sought the help of various sovereigns. There was no proper response to these calls. Only in October, 1452, the papal legate to the emperor Isidore brought with him 200 archers hired in Naples. The problem of the union with Rome again caused controversy and unrest in Constantinople. 12 December 1452 year in the temple of St. Sophia served a solemn liturgy in the presence of the emperor and the whole court. It mentioned the names of the Pope, the patriarch and officially proclaimed the provisions of the Union of Florence. Most citizens took this news with sullen passivity. Many hoped that if the city stood, it would be possible to reject the union. But by paying this price for help, the Byzantine elite miscalculated - ships with soldiers from Western states did not arrive to help the perishing empire.

At the end of January 1453, the issue of war was finally resolved. Turkish troops in Europe received orders to attack Byzantine cities in Thrace. Cities on the Black Sea surrendered without a fight and avoided pogrom. Some cities on the coast of the Sea of ​​Marmara tried to defend themselves, and were destroyed. Part of the army invaded the Peloponnese and attacked the brothers of Emperor Constantine, so that they could not come to the aid of the capital. Sultan took into account the fact that a number of previous attempts to take Constantinople (by his predecessors) failed due to the lack of a fleet. The Byzantines had the opportunity by sea to bring reinforcements and supplies. In March, in Gallipoli, all the ships at the disposal of the Turks. Some ships were new, built in the last few months. In the Turkish fleet there were 6 triremes (two-masted sailing-rowing ships, one paddle was held by three rowers), 10 birem (single-masted ship, where there were two rowers on one paddle), 15 galleys, near 75 fust (light, high-speed vessels), 20 parandarius (heavy transport barges) and the mass of small sailing boats, boats. At the head of the Turkish fleet was Suleiman Baltoglu. Rowers and sailors were prisoners, criminals, slaves and part of the volunteers. In late March, the Turkish fleet passed through the Dardanelles to the Sea of ​​Marmara, causing terror among the Greeks and Italians. This was another blow to the Byzantine elite, they did not expect that the Turks would prepare such a significant naval forces and be able to block the city from the sea.

At the same time in Thrace they were preparing an army. Throughout the winter, gunsmiths tirelessly made various kinds weapon, the engineers created the battering and stone-throwing machines. A powerful shock fist was assembled from about 100 thousand people. Of these, 80 thousand were regular troops - cavalry and infantry, janissaries (12 thousand). Approximately 20-25 thousand consisted of irregular troops - the militia, bashi-bazouks (irregular cavalry, "crazy" did not receive a salary and "awarded" looting), rear units. Sultan paid much attention to artillery - the Hungarian master Urban cast several powerful cannons capable of sinking ships (with the help of one of them sank the Venetian ship) and destroy powerful fortifications. The largest of them were carrying 60 bulls, and a team of several hundred people was assigned to it. The gun fired nuclei weighing about 1200 pounds (about 500 kg). During March, the huge army of the Sultan began to gradually move to the Bosphorus. On April 5, Mehmed II himself arrived under the walls of Constantinople. The morale of the army was high, everyone believed in success and hoped for rich booty.

People in Constantinople were suppressed. The huge Turkish fleet in the Sea of ​​Marmara and strong enemy artillery only increased anxiety. People recalled the predictions of the fall of the empire and the coming of the Antichrist. But one cannot say that the threat has deprived all people of the will to resist. Throughout the winter, men and women, encouraged by the emperor, worked to clear the moats and fortify the walls. A fund was created for unforeseen expenses - the emperor, churches, monasteries and private individuals made investments in it. It should be noted that the problem was not the availability of money, but the lack of the necessary number of people, weapons (special firearms), the problem of food. All weapons collected in one place, if necessary, distribute to the most threatened areas.

Hope for external assistance was not. Support Byzantium had only some individuals. Thus, the Venetian colony in Constantinople offered its help to the emperor. Two captains of Venetian ships returning from the Black Sea - Gabriele Trevisano and Alvizo Diedo, gave an oath to participate in the fight. In total, the fleet defending Constantinople consisted of 26 ships: 10 of which belonged to the Byzantines proper, 5 to the Venetians, 5 to the Genoese, 3 to the Cretans, 1 arrived from Catalonia, 1 from Ancona and 1 from Provence. Several noble Genoese arrived to fight for the Christian faith. For example, a volunteer from Genoa, Giovanni Giustiniani Longo brought 700 soldiers with him. Giustiniani was known as an experienced military, so he was appointed emperor commander of the defense of the land walls. In general, the Byzantine emperor, not including the Allies, had about 5-7 thousands of warriors. It should be noted that part of the population of the city left Constantinople before the siege began. Part of the Genoese - the colony of Per and the Venetians remained neutral. On the night of February 26, seven ships - 1 from Venice and 6 from Crete left the Golden Horn, taking 700 to the Italians.

To be continued ...
“The death of the empire. Byzantine Lesson " - a journalistic film of the viceroy of the Moscow Sretensky Monastery, Archimandrite Tikhon (Shevkunov). The premiere took place on the state channel "Russia" 30 January 2008. The presenter, Archimandrite Tikhon (Shevkunov), gives his first-person version of the collapse of the Byzantine Empire.

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  1. +12
    29 May 2012 08: 52
    Here it is - the endless hope of some fools in the West. Forgot about co-religionists.
    1. Goga
      +15
      29 May 2012 10: 30
      Ross - greetings, Eugene, it was the West, the Catholic "crusaders" that were the main reason for the decline of the Orthodox empire. It was they who treacherously attacked the allies and destroyed the thriving city. This made it a relatively easy prey for the Turks later on.
      Unfortunately, history teaches that it teaches nothing. Already not the first hundred years from the "West", apart from trouble, nothing has to be expected - but no, we are all trying to bend our backs, smile and look into their eyes - "we are Europeans too," - and they turn to us in a famous place .. ...
      In my opinion, it’s high time, in return for smiles, they should be given a kick-up to this place in order to realize who they are and who WE are. angry
      1. Yoshkin Kot
        +13
        29 May 2012 11: 01
        it was Goga, by and large, the Catholics sawed the tree, the Turks just dumped it, the West is Our Enemy!
      2. +9
        29 May 2012 11: 47
        Goga
        I agree to one hundred grams. To do this, you first need to look inward. Only by answering the question "who am I?" it will be possible to expand it to the boundaries of "who are we?" It probably seems simple and naive. But when I read empty windy phrases on the forum, accompanied by swelling of the chest and beating with fists in it, it becomes sad.
        We have lost a lot in traditions and culture, which is why the "Western values" so quickly filled this vacuum. We need to hit less on our pampered Persians and by our example teach love for our native land and the glorious history of our ancestors. First of all, to teach the younger generations.
        1. Goga
          +7
          29 May 2012 12: 36
          Navodlom - Colleague, - quote - "... to teach love for the native land and the glorious history of our ancestors. To teach, first of all, the younger generations." - that's right - what we do (without even leaving home) Yes
      3. +6
        29 May 2012 15: 16
        Goga,
        Greetings Igor! I agree with the West, but all the same, decomposition from the inside is an equally important reason. The rejection of the people's army and the replacement of the hired - a loss of incentive to defend themselves. And Caesars, by their behavior, added fuel to the fire.
      4. Marat
        +5
        29 May 2012 18: 43
        Again I support you Igor! The fate of Byzantium should be a lesson to us! Like the fate of tsarist Russia and the USSR, we should not be deceived and defeated by Western civilization for the fourth time
        1. Goga
          +3
          30 May 2012 04: 18
          Ross, Marat - I greet you, Eugene and Marat, (I was forced to leave urgently yesterday, so I can only answer today) - unconditionally the collapse of Byzantium was caused by a whole complex of external and internal problems - it was just painfully familiar to us! I'd like to believe that history has finally begun to teach us something - on someone else's, and unfortunately on its own experience.
  2. +5
    29 May 2012 09: 03
    I watched the film two years ago. Until the last "comma" - a story about modern Russia and about "our" rulers, who are equal to the ephemeral "world experience".
    Recommend.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      +6
      29 May 2012 11: 04
      Yeah, especially Putin, aren't you tired? Putin is doing everything possible to revive the country, but the bogies, the "gossky intelligentsia" and other religiously religious rabble (neo-pagans) and followers of the Jewish doctrine - Marxism, are precisely contained, both materially and spiritually, by the "West"! It is not for nothing that attacks on the Russian Church are constant!
  3. Shuhrat turani
    0
    29 May 2012 09: 19
    The change of eras is happening ... Everyone understands what needs to be done, but there is no more strength and desire ...
    the description does not resemble anything ???? there is much to do with the current state of affairs ...
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      +3
      29 May 2012 11: 11
      many knowledge, many sorrows
  4. Altergo
    +6
    29 May 2012 09: 33
    How much later, after a couple of centuries, we fought with the Turks, and now the Ottomans are again raising their heads.
    1. Shuhrat turani
      -7
      29 May 2012 11: 05
      Quote: Altergo
      and now the Ottomans are raising their heads again.

      They especially did not lower their heads. I.V. Stalin had a desire to fight the Turks, but the wise General Staff dissuaded ... The meat grinder was worse than the Finnish war ...
    2. Yoshkin Kot
      +5
      29 May 2012 11: 10
      they beat them mercilessly, but the arrogant Saxons over and over again, under the threat of war, stole our victory, Constantinople has already been 130 years old how could it be a Christian city
      1. Shuhrat turani
        -9
        29 May 2012 14: 32
        You didn’t keep Ukraine ... But they all wanted to go to Turkey ... One more crap would be more ... Everything that happens is for the better ...)))
  5. -3
    29 May 2012 09: 37
    To the fall of Byzantium, our ancestors very decently adhered .... Ant treasures are still found, and then there was a shield on the gates of Constantinople. In the period from 666 to 950, the city was subjected to repeated sieges by Arabs and Rus. 13 April 1204 years Constantinople is captured by the knights of the Fourth Crusade, who burn it and almost completely destroy it. The city becomes the capital of the Latin Empire of the Crusaders, in which economic domination passed to the Venetians. In July 1261, the Byzantines, supported by the Genoese, conquered the city, and power again passed to the Byzantine dynasty of Paleologists.
    Until the middle of the XIV century, Constantinople remained a major trading center, then gradually became desolate, the Venetians and Genoese seized key positions in the city. Since the end of the XIV century, Ottoman Turks tried to conquer Constantinople more than once. After the construction by the Sultan Mehmed the Conqueror in the 1452 year of the Rumel fortress, the fate of the city was decided and 29 on May 1453 after a long siege, the city fell.
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      0
      29 May 2012 11: 05
      ???? baby, do you generally know that more than five hundred years have passed since Igor?
      1. +4
        29 May 2012 12: 37
        ))) Thank you for your child ... in the course "The Russian-Byzantine war of 907 is the legendary victorious campaign of the ancient Russian prince Oleg to Constantinople. It is widely known in Russian society for the phrase:" Prophetic Oleg nailed his shield on the gates of Constantinople. " The Russians undertook a major campaign against Byzantium in the summer of 941, when a huge Russian army, led by Prince Igor by sea and land, moved to Constantinople. The Russians destroyed the suburbs and moved towards the capital. " "In 944, Igor gathered a new army and again set out on a campaign. At the same time, the allies of Russia, the Hungarians, raided the Byzantine territory and approached the walls of Constantinople. The Greeks did not tempt fate and sent an embassy to Igor's meeting with a request for peace. " "The son of Prince Igor, Svyatoslav, also fought against Byzantium. His first campaign against the Balkans, undertaken in 967, ended in the successful implementation of Svyatoslav's military-political plan - Bulgaria ceased resistance."
        "In 970, a battle took place near Adrianople, as a result of which the Greeks were defeated, brought gifts to Svyatoslav and promised peace. At this time, a small reinforcement arrived from Kiev to Svyatoslav." “Peaceful relations between the two powers were broken in 1043, when the inhabitants of Constantinople were again shocked by the already obliterated sight of the innumerable ships and boats of the“ Tavro-Scythians ”approaching the city walls, as if ready, according to Psellus,“ to take the city right away from all its inhabitants. ”However, the campaign against Constantinople under the leadership of Yaroslav’s son Vladimir ended in failure.“ so the water wears away the stone ... if the iron is constantly bending ...
    2. Shuhrat turani
      -10
      29 May 2012 11: 10
      What are your ancestors? There are no markers in the genotype of Ukrainians ... Eastern Ukrainians are essentially Christianized Slavic-speaking Turans with strong Finno-Finnish inclusions ... And as far as we know, the Varangians who ruled the Slavs of Novgorod, Pskov, Galicia, Chernigov and Finno-Finns hung up the shield. east of Russia, and the Turans (a population of the steppes south of Kiev.
      1. +7
        29 May 2012 11: 38
        Shuhrat Turani,
        Until now, they have not come to an unambiguous opinion about the origin of those same Varangians. Yes, and ponderously rattling "Finno-Finns of Chernigov" is also somehow frivolous ...
        1. Shuhrat turani
          -9
          29 May 2012 14: 25
          Chernihiv - Land Severskaya-Land Savirs. Savira-Finno-Ugric people ...
          1. +1
            29 May 2012 19: 33
            Savira-Finno-Ugric people ...


            Not a fact, far from a fact. Türkic hypothesis seems more plausible
            1. Shuhrat turani
              -2
              29 May 2012 19: 45
              Uugor theory is more pleasant for most Russians, therefore I write .... I myself am inclined to the Turkic theory
      2. +2
        29 May 2012 12: 45
        Do not say garbage http://www.gentis.ru/info/mtdna-tutorial/freq
        1. Shuhrat turani
          -7
          29 May 2012 14: 29
          Yes, yes, yes, it turns out the genotypes of the population of Tashkent do not differ much from the genotypes of the population of Vladimir ... as I said ...
          1. 0
            29 May 2012 15: 56
            Relax on the maternal side, but on the male http://www.demushkin.com/content/articles/291/2497.html Ukrainians have 54% R1a and can you tell me what the card means? http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:R1a1a_distribution.png and here is an explanation for you http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Kurgan hypothesis.
            1. Shuhrat turani
              0
              29 May 2012 16: 54
              Referring to Nazi sites? You would have adored Adolf Schickelgruber the dearest ... And as for the Kurgan culture, this is just a hypothesis ... Like any hypothesis of the linguistic and anthropological orientation of the Eurocentric school, it is tense and politicized, therefore it is necessary to consider it with great caution ... Expand the materials studied , there are other schools, take an interest ... A lot will become clear ...
              1. -1
                29 May 2012 18: 11
                They are official and confirmed, these are international data ... take a look at the wiki http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaplogroup_R1a_(Y-DNA)... and, by the way, the author of the American theory is barrowing and most scientists support this theory;) and card? how to explain?
                1. Shuhrat turani
                  0
                  29 May 2012 19: 44
                  most scholars are Eurocentric ... politics, nothing more
                  And Wikipedia in general is written by everyone
                  1. 0
                    29 May 2012 20: 38
                    Well, the facts are genetics, excavations ... and once again explain the map ...
  6. Goga
    +6
    29 May 2012 10: 19
    Our ancestors "went on a spree" to Constantinople, but this was before the period of the highest flourishing of the empire, so these "spree" have nothing to do with the "decline" of Byzantium. But why the article does not mention the ruin and plundering of Constantinople by the crusaders, after which the empire was never able to recover, which ultimately became the reason for the loss of the war with the Turks? It was the “holy” army of Catholics, instead of crossing the straits and fighting the Muslims, who treacherously engaged in plundering a friendly, Christian city. Something this page from the history in the presentation of the author dropped out - the article "-".
    What are the "Uniates" - it is well clear from their behavior in the Second World War - policemen and punishers, the first henchmen of the Nazis - as they were shit, so they remained ...
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      +5
      29 May 2012 11: 06
      namely, and the city was captured by the "crusaders" at a time when the Byzantine army fought with the Muslims, allies, aphids, just like the Entente in 1917
      besides, the Novgorod and Pskov Russians had already got acquainted with the morals of the heroes' crusaders by that time, and not one of the papal bulls, announcing "crusades" against Christians, was not canceled, because they formally continue, the enemy, and we must make sure that unrest breaks out in their ranks and destroy it as a phenomenon hostile to Russia.
  7. vostok
    +6
    29 May 2012 11: 56
    Using the fall of the Byzantine Empire as an example, it can be seen that when neighbors or brothers in blood sow, someone will surely wither them. Russia needs to learn from the mistakes of the past, and not to allow confusion among the peoples.
  8. +4
    29 May 2012 12: 55
    vostok,
    you don’t need to look at the neighbors when there are so many brothers ...
  9. +4
    29 May 2012 13: 00
    With the fall of Constantinople, all hope for the restoration of Christianity in the Middle East fell. Europe is to blame for this. Greedy crowds of crusaders instead of going to the East attacked their co-religionists. Of course, the Byzantines themselves are also to blame, but they managed to hold out on the thin line between the West and the East by cunning, money, diplomacy. I think this is a unique country. And now they are not even mentioned in the textbooks, although the Byzantines played a significant role in history for a very long time. It was they who kept the eastern borders of Europe from the Arabs, it was they who fought against the Turks until the last (although the last decades of their existence, they became vassals of the Turks). The last emperors begged Europe for help, but it only kept silent coldly and looked towards the end of the Byzantine Empire ...
  10. Svistoplyaskov
    +7
    29 May 2012 13: 40
    Yes, the story was cruel at all times! But the Hagia Sophia is still a pity. All the same, the oldest and largest Orthodox church!


  11. +7
    29 May 2012 14: 03
    Nothing else we will attend the Liturgy in Hagia Sophia !!! The prophecy is that we will return the Greeks to Constantinople, a large territory of Turkey will go to us, a third of the Turks will be baptized, a third will die in the war, and a third will leave where they originally came from.
    1. Shuhrat turani
      -7
      29 May 2012 14: 37
      From the beginning in the Caucasus, put things in order .... The Liturgy, you want to understand ... In the Church of the Savior, pop concerts are arranged, nothing sacred. They also want to desecrate the Istanbul mosque with concerts by pop whores.
      1. +8
        29 May 2012 15: 17
        Constantinople (I never call Istanbul) is Christian. Return it to the Christians.
        1. -2
          29 May 2012 17: 26
          Schaz ... we will return.
          We will consult with Christians.
          What denomination he wants.
          And then there is the grave complex of Jesus Christ, or, in Muslim terms, Isa the prophet.
          Christians - about (N.M.V.) 300 species, Muslims - no less. And to take - exclusive - Druze, Alawites, Karaites .. - a barrage, in short.
          So .... give it back, no?

          It is interesting to read opinions, I will save no.
          Surprisingly, no one remembered the New Chronology (Nosovsky-Fomenko theory).
          And then .... oooh.

          Goga, hello! Plusanul.
          1. +3
            29 May 2012 18: 56
            The new timeline is evil.
            1. +1
              29 May 2012 19: 26
              Deniska999 ... you will not believe ..
              in ten years ... those who will know .. the traditional history - will be ranked as "fossils".
              Remember my words.
              As they say ... I give a tooth. especially by that time there will be only crowns .. or roots.
              1. Geton
                0
                30 May 2012 06: 30
                Greetings Igarr wanted to write, but even there is no mood.
              2. 0
                30 May 2012 16: 38
                In ten not in ten, but by half a century - do not go to grandma. And even a witch hunt will be announced. And Nosovsky and Fomenko will become "prophets".
              3. 0
                31 May 2012 07: 35
                And as you write a new story, it will never be so colorful and interesting.
      2. +4
        29 May 2012 16: 37
        Like you to Central Asia.
      3. -1
        29 May 2012 19: 35
        As for the whores, I agree
  12. +7
    29 May 2012 14: 46
    And now they are already embarrassed))
  13. +2
    29 May 2012 16: 02
    Chimeras, chimeras, our strengths in Siberia and the Far East would be more useful, because the capture of the straits would not lead anywhere, because the control of the Mediterranean world among the Anglo-Saxons in the giberalt and Suez
  14. Insurgent
    0
    29 May 2012 19: 58
    In general, the crusaders brought Byzantium to such a state, the crusaders took Constantinople in 1240, which led the empire to decline and the inability to resist
  15. +1
    29 May 2012 21: 30
    The decline of Byzantium was a natural process. This state was atavism, the rudiment of antiquity, it is still worth wondering how it lasted a millennium (according to traditional history).
    Byzantium never had a state-forming people, the so-called cultural core, which could politically and culturally unite all the inhabitants of the empire. Byzantium could flourish when it owned trade routes in the Mediterranean. But as soon as her neighbors and competitors began to raise her head - Genoa, Venice, Arabs, and then Turks - by the way, developing as a mono-ethnic and culturally united nation, Byzantium steadily began to decline.
    Who came to the defense of Constantinople in 1453? The same Christians who lived in the former lands of Byzantium showed full conformism to the Turks, who to give them their due, showed enough wisdom to deserve the loyalty of their new subjects.
    Many blame the crusaders for the pogrom of Constantinople in 1204, which marked the beginning of the final decline of Byzantium. But let's avoid double standards and do not forget how cruel the same Byzantine emperors smashed their co-religionists of the Bulgarians, slaughtering the male population and blinding women and children.
    The fall of Constantinople is an example of political Darwinism - the strong
    eliminate the weak.
    1. Insurgent
      +1
      29 May 2012 22: 25
      What do the Byzantines talk about? The Greeks and their Greek language and antiquity have nothing to do with Byzantium originated in the 5th century and the Byzantine state of barbarians serves as an example of Russia. Stalin also led the dilemma why Byzantium fell so that we could not repeat its lesson.
      1. +4
        29 May 2012 22: 43
        Insurgent
        The builder of the Byzantine Empire was Emperor Constantine - 4th century AD
        Yes, and I don’t remember that we drank broodershaft to "poke". Go finish your school curriculum.
        1. Insurgent
          0
          30 May 2012 19: 37
          So you learn history in the 8th century, Byzantium survived the conquest of the Arabs, and they were no weaker than the Turks at the time. At the expense of cruelty, and who was not cruel in the Middle Ages?
          Those very Bulgarians are a newcomer and those lands were populated by a steam-bot of the Slavs
  16. Morani
    -10
    29 May 2012 21: 59
    The Byzantine Empire was ruined by corruption.

    And what did the gentlemen of the Muscovites do in that historical period? And then for Constantinople the Genoese and the Venetians lay their heads. Where is the struggle for the cradle of Christianity?
    1. +1
      30 May 2012 16: 49
      for Constantinople the Genoese and the Venetians lay their heads


      Yes. about 700 people. Were not interested in how much Giovanni Longo asked for the protection of the "cradle of Christianity"? The "small" island of Lemnos. Agree, it doesn't smell like altruism.
      Yes, and do not "lay down", but lay
  17. Town Guard
    +3
    30 May 2012 12: 31
    “Already in the winter of 1451-1452, Sultan Mehmed ordered to start building a fortress in the narrowest part of the Bosphorus, thereby cutting off Constantinople from the Black Sea. The Byzantines were in confusion - this was the first step towards a siege. who promised to preserve the territorial integrity of Byzantium. The embassy was left unanswered. Constantine sent envoys with gifts and asked not to touch the Greek villages located on the Bosphorus. The Sultan ignored this mission. In June, a third embassy was sent - this time the Greeks were arrested and then beheaded It was, in fact, a declaration of war. "
    Reminds of the encirclement of Russia by military bases and unfriendly regimes. And also the request of the Byzantines resembles Russia's protests on missile defense, but as in either case, "vaska" listens and eats. (((True, the analogies are not quite the same, since the Americans hardly resemble aggressive Turks - they rather resemble Venetians, Genoese and others - because there were earlier analogues of today's FRS, and the Byzantines were their rivals in trade, so it was profitable for them to fall down their competitors.
    And after the looting by the crusaders, apparently, they established exceptionally advantageous privileges for themselves, which is noted in the article. But despite the confirmation of privileges, they did not extend a helping hand. This is already becoming a tradition when the West gives nothing in exchange for concessions, but even more impudent.
    Conclusion - they are considered only with force. They do not understand a good respectful language. These are still barbarians - if they understand only power ... It seems that a civilized conversation with them is not possible.