The Independent: Authorities expose GRU as a bunch of losers, was there poisoning?

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Mary Dejevski, a columnist for the British edition of The Independent, gives material that contains many questions for the investigation into the case of the so-called Skripale poisoning. The article noted that the hype about this has been going on since March, but so far British society has not been informed about what really happened in Salisbury.

В article Dejevski noted that all the arguments of Scotland Yard seem to be of little substance and unlikely.



The Independent: Authorities expose GRU as a bunch of losers, was there poisoning?


A British journalist wonders whether a nerve-paralytic combat substance was actually applied to the Violinists. The question was asked in connection with the accusations from London against the Russian special services. In the British press, which is difficult to suspect of sympathy for Moscow, they note that the discrepancies are obvious: if it was the CID, which, according to Scotland Yard, was used by professionals from the Russian military intelligence, then why did Skrypali remain alive?

Did this question interest anyone in Britain ...

Mary Dejevski:
The only irrefutable fact in this matter is the scene of the action - Salisbury. Everything else is speculative.

Dejevski notes that she was initially discouraged by the fact of the accusation against Russia almost a few hours after what happened in Salisbury. If the special services were aware of the interference of specific individuals from Russia, then why wasn’t the crime prevented? If nothing was known, then questions arise to the British counterintelligence and to the fact, on what basis were the accusations against Russia immediately poured?

Mary Dejevski:
Surprisingly, today everyone refers to Bellingcat. What is this structure that works faster than British detectives? She, it turns out, put them all in her belt. Although some time ago, Bellingcat was associated in the UK with amateurishness. The oddities are visible, because suddenly this structure dramatically increased the budget and gained access to communications with overseas services.

The British journalist in his article expresses bewilderment about the logic of official London:
They are doing everything to expose this Russian GRU to a bunch of losers and a lack of money, but immediately declare the widespread involvement of this department. Even accused of attacks on WADA and the OPCW.


Mary Dejevski:
All this looks like the fact that Russia is trying to withdraw outside the zone of access to information of the same Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons. But tell me, if the accusations fell on you, wouldn't you be interested in how the investigation is progressing? Russia does not say anything, just continuing to pour charges. But the only person who died from the use of CID, as our police say, is Don Sturgess (a drug addict from Salisbury - note “IN”). Where are all the other members of this drama? Where, after all, is the surviving policeman who discovered Skrippal and his daughter? Is it even possible to agree with the police’s argument that the headquarters of the Russian intelligence service will send its best cadres to carry out such an incompetent operation? I live in Britain, I am a British journalist, and I, as a person, are agitated by these questions and oddities.
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  1. +13
    13 October 2018 10: 00
    The GRU has not existed since 1992.
    1. +4
      13 October 2018 10: 04
      Quote: Gray Brother
      The GRU has not existed since 1992.

      There are no former GRU officers. smile
      We are all now Je suis GRU ...
      1. +27
        13 October 2018 10: 17
        Quote: Thrall
        We are all now Je suis GRU.

        Exactly !

        laughing
        How do we defend ourselves ..
        1. +16
          13 October 2018 11: 27
          Or so for example:
          1. +1
            14 October 2018 20: 06
            Quote: Jerk
            Or so for example:

            English blogger Rob Slane published an interesting theory linking all the facts in the Skripals case, which explains the background, the course, and the conclusions from the events.

            As for any independent blogger writing on the subject of the Skripals investigation, and I read several of them, this theory has no place for either Petrov or Boshirov, because they could not influence the course of events either in time or place. I am sure that the stuffing about Petrov and Boshirov serve the sole purpose of diverting attention from the details of what was happening.

            Rob recalls the Conan-Doyle method of investigation formulated by Sherlock Holmes - "It is dangerous to theorize without data. Unbeknownst to oneself, a person begins to manipulate facts to fit them into his theory, instead of substantiating the theory with facts .."

            What was stated by the UK government?
            - Skripal and his daughter Julia, as well as Sergeant Nick Bailey, were poisoned by the nerve agent A-234 ("Novice")
            - A – 234 was developed in the USSR, which means it was to be produced only in Russia.
            The second of these statements is incorrect - since the poisoning it was reported that the Czech Republic (A – 230), Iran, Germany, and the United States owned some amount of agent.
            The first statement also does not correspond to the facts - if "Novice" had been used, the Skripals would have died a few minutes after contact with him. The woman who later died from contact with some similar poison smeared her wrists for 8 minutes from indisposition. Scientist Andrei Zheleznyakov, the only survivor of the Novichok application, did not live long, suffered from a failure of the nervous system, cirrhosis, hepatitis, and epilepsy.

            Naturally, the effect of the poison is not monotonous, but the Skripals walked for 4 hours after allegedly being poisoned by the doorknob of their house in Salisbury, ate and drank, and fed the swans in the park. On April 4, Viktoria Skripal received a call from Yulia, who said “nothing irreparable has happened”.
            You can confidently come to only one conclusion - neither Skripali, nor the policeman received poisoning with A-234 poison.

            A few details, Slane adds, also reveal the hidden role of nearby MI6 agent Pablo Miller, Skripal's "host", mentioned by CNN in a report that has been banned in the UK from mentioning his role in British press. Miller is associated with his employee Steele, who penned the Trump Dossier.

            Interesting and important to Slain also two people seem to be captured by security cameras at 15:47 on March 4, shortly before the moment when Skripaley was found on a park bench at 16:03.

            The newspapers passed them off as Skripals. However, these are NOT Skripals - among them there is no one resembling Yulia Skripal. They were not identified in any way, they were completely "forgotten" about them. However, they are very important - one (one) of them has a large red bag.

            One of the witnesses to the incident in the park said - "the girl leaned on the shoulder of an elderly man. There was a large red bag at her feet." In other photos, we see the police putting a red bag in their container immediately after the incident. The red bag is important as evidence. The police took her away and since then no one has seen or mentioned her.

            Another witness to the incident in the park, Sergeant Nick Bailey, also disappeared. He was released from the hospital on March 22, and issued the following appeal to the press - "I understand your attention to the incident, but please give me time to understand what happened." Whether they were poisoned or not is unclear. Initially, the press mentioned about his poisoning near a park bench. However, on March 9th, former police chief Sir Blair said in an interview that Bailey had been poisoned at the Skripals' house. Subsequently, the location of Bailey's poisoning changed several times from the bench to the house and back.

            It is strange that he, the investigator, was generally summoned to a bench or a house - for the first 24 hours the Skripals poisoning was qualified as an overdose of fentanyl (a drug), a phenomenon frequent in Salisbury.

            The third main moment was recorded in the Zizzy restaurant, where the Skripals were until 15:35 hours. A witness at the restaurant stated the following - “they ordered bread and wine, then a risotto with seafood in sauces, a rather fatty meal of 600 calories. A few minutes after the order, Skripal began to get nervous, shout, rush the waiters. They were dressed in black ( went to the grave of his wife.) The food was brought in 20 minutes, they paid, ate it and began to hurry to leave. They stayed in the restaurant for a total of 45 minutes. Skripal ate everything, did not look sick, but screamed a lot. Yulia was silent all this time and nothing did not calm her down. They ate all the food. There was no way they could get poisoned in Zizzy. "

            Why is it important? They were in good health for several hours after the "announced" poisoning. No symptoms of poisoning at all. Skripal's nervousness must be explained by something else. Perhaps someone (Miller?) Had made an appointment for him in the park, which he had to not miss.

            Slane's theory is that "the people who were filmed on a security camera did not creak." The red bag that they brought to the meeting with the Skripals at exactly 16:00 pm contained a poisoning device that went off after the bag was opened. The people on the security camera immediately after handing over the bag mixed with the crowd.

            15:35 - The creaks left Zizzy. Two minutes later they pass the bench further;
            15:37 - 50 meters from the bench, feed the ducks in the pond;
            15:47 - a couple on the security camera passes towards the bench;
            16:03 - the first witness notices Skripale in a semi-conscious state on the bench; a red bag near the legs of Julia Skripal;
            16:15 - an ambulance takes them to the hospital; Julia by helicopter and Sergey by car;
            The hospital diagnoses "fentanyl poisoning";
            A little later, the police - (possibly MI-6 proxy) Sergeant Nick Bailey - takes away a red bag that no one else mentions; Bailey receives a small dose of poison.

            Why did Skripal go to this meeting? The answer is to get paid for silence about participating in the Trump Dossier. Why did you take your daughter and meet in a public place? Reduced the risk of public assassination on his life in connection with the meeting.

            What kind of poison was he poisoned with? Slane gives descriptions of symptoms from five different witnesses — 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 — and concludes that it was “Carfentanil” or “3-Quinuclidinyl-Benzilate” (BZ).

            How did "Novice" get on the Skripals' door handle? After the incident, the house was cordoned off, army specialists in hazmat suits ("chickens") brought in small quantities of A-234, smeared it on the door handle, then experts were invited to take a sample from the handle. It was impossible to smear A-234 on the handle in advance - the neighbors might have noticed people in hazmat suits. Otherwise, as in such a suit, it is impossible to work with such poisons.

            What happened to the Skripals later? They were "treated" in the hospital, not giving access to the press, recovering from fentanyl poisoning - mind you, the same diagnosis as the initial one was released and taken away in an unknown direction. Yulia said on April 5 to Viktoria Skripal the following: "Nothing irreparable has happened. Father is resting." She herself also showed no signs of the consequences of the poisoning of A-234 in the video. Bailey disappeared. A-234 poison in a diluted form was planted on a couple of drug addicts from Amesbury to create a media picture, and a woman died from it.

            The conclusions are as follows - 1) the version of the poisoning presented by the British government has no reason; 2) Skripal knows his poisoners well; 3) Skripal will never be able to tell the truth, because the scandal will be huge and will affect at least two governments - the United States and Great Britain, and two or more NATO intelligence.
            1. 0
              14 October 2018 23: 45
              In the version of the English blogger: "the poisoning of the Skripals by agents of the British special services" -
              many weak points. It turns out that dozens of people participated in the conspiracy of special services. Which acted publicly and simultaneously on the streets of the city. It is impossible to maintain secrecy, involving so many people in the operation. Someone is sure to talk to the press.
              For example: a red bag. According to the Englishman, the poison was in it. But why attract such attention? : "poison in a conspicuous red bag". Especially for the blogger to notice? It is illogical.
              1. 0
                15 October 2018 00: 02
                Quote: voyaka uh
                For example: a red bag.

                Gee-gee. No, damn it, you're definitely kidding me.
        2. 0
          15 October 2018 09: 15
          Correctly ! The main thing is to blur this topic up, turn it into a joke, obscure the players, we must save our Solberetskys ... failed, it happens, but they are ours.!
      2. +20
        13 October 2018 10: 25
        The point is not whether there are former GRU officers or not, but the fact is that they (England) accuse the GRU of involvement in this matter. Moreover, the GRU has not existed since 1992, while it was officially stated that the BATTLE substance was used, while the amount of the poisonous substance was named! And this amount is in REALITY! the whole city would mow down !!! The substance acts very quickly - which is why it is also combat. I read about him, this substance interrupts the intercellular metabolism, and also destroys the DNA chain. This is how then not only Skripal survived, but also at least the whole quarter where they lived? These are actually the right questions))))) hi soldier bully
        1. +20
          13 October 2018 11: 16
          Quote: ALLxANDr
          The point is not whether there are former GRU officers or not, but the fact is that they (England) accuse the GRU of involvement in this matter. Moreover, the GRU has not existed since 1992, while it was officially stated that the BATTLE substance was used, while the amount of the poisonous substance was named! And this amount is in REALITY! the whole city would mow down !!! The substance acts very quickly - which is why it is also combat. I read about him, this substance interrupts the intercellular metabolism, and also destroys the DNA chain. This is how then not only Skripal survived, but also at least the whole quarter where they lived? These are actually the right questions))))) hi soldier bully

          Who in Britain is interested in these facts. It has been said that the Russians are poisoning, so it is. If it were different, then all this "verbal diarrhea" on the part of the august persons would not have happened. It is high time to understand that they are making nonhumans out of us, preparations are underway for war and the Russians must be "dehumanized", tk. you cannot kill people, but non-people ... We can bring a million facts against, but who will pay attention to this. Even if we strongly refute, and the accusations "crumble to dust", "the sediment will settle down" (c). And then there will be a new wave of accusations, the same idiotic, and the same unsubstantiated. A simple scheme is being worked out "Throw more dirt, something will stick" (c)
          1. +3
            13 October 2018 11: 32
            I completely agree, put a plus
          2. jjj
            +10
            13 October 2018 12: 18
            Western public opinion is preparing not just for a war against Russia, but for the fact that the Russians are not sorry to destroy everyone with weapons of mass destruction, even if it’s forbidden
          3. +2
            14 October 2018 04: 54
            Quote EwgenyZ
            Who in Britain is interested in these facts. It is said that the Russians are poisoning, so it is.

            The Salisbury poisoning was not planned as a long-term action. This carelessly prepared provocation was supposed to become a trigger for a whole project to take control over chemical weapons outside the Russian competence. As you know, only our geopolitical opponents have left chemical weapons and they are actively developing it)).
        2. +3
          13 October 2018 12: 33
          Quote: ALLxANDr
          The point is not whether there are former GRU officers or not, but the fact is that they (England) accuse the GRU of involvement in this matter. Moreover, the GRU has not existed since 1992, while it was officially stated that the BATTLE substance was used, while the amount of the poisonous substance was named! And this amount is in REALITY! the whole city would mow down !!! The substance acts very quickly - which is why it is also combat. I read about him, this substance interrupts the intercellular metabolism, and also destroys the DNA chain. This is how then not only Skripal survived, but also at least the whole quarter where they lived? These are actually the right questions)))))

          That's right, but who cares! The main thing is to pour mud on Russia, and their people hawala, hawala and not that.
    2. +7
      13 October 2018 10: 10
      Since 1992, the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the USSR has disappeared, and the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation has appeared. In 2010, the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was reorganized.
      1. +4
        13 October 2018 10: 15
        Quote: Timeout
        In 2010, the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was reorganized.

        I say - as a separate structure ceased to exist.
        1. +1
          13 October 2018 10: 16
          So what year?
          1. 0
            13 October 2018 10: 22
            Quote: Timeout
            So what year?

            .
            1. +2
              13 October 2018 10: 24
              You did not understand. As an independent division of the GRU ceased to exist in 2010, but not like in 1992.
              1. +9
                13 October 2018 10: 26
                Quote: Timeout
                0
                You did not understand. As an independent division of the GRU ceased to exist in 2010, but not like in 1992.

                Yes, I understood everything. In 1992, in our country, from the independent organizations only the CIA was.
        2. BVS
          +1
          13 October 2018 12: 23
          You assert that if the word "reconnaissance" is removed from the name of the structure of the GRU General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, then the previously independent structure will not become independent - GU General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. RIGHT?
    3. +4
      13 October 2018 10: 48
      See the gopher? Me neither. But he is. Hiley Likely, that GRU employees are moving in time in the future to crack a vada.
    4. -2
      13 October 2018 19: 09
      The GRU has not existed since 1992.
      AND? What's the connection with the bat and the heart of the matter? There is simply nothing to discuss here! In the sense of the word at all. These characters had the opportunity to "dispel all doubts"! But what they did only proved that "the matter is clear, that the matter is dark." There will be some real "facts", or at least stuffing in Facebook, we will think. And so, this is all food for plankton.
    5. 0
      14 October 2018 05: 28
      British politicians do not read VO! Nobody bothered to tell them - that’s why they crap one's pants from the very first words. Well, listing all of their nonsense is already tired. It would have been better said - Shoigu and Putin flew in and poisoned ... believe, believe highly like!
  2. +21
    13 October 2018 10: 00
    I recognized them. This is Kokorin and Mamaev.
    There was a video with a poisoned chair in a cafe smile
    1. +4
      13 October 2018 10: 23
      Quote: Thrall
      I recognized them. This is Kokorin and Mamaev.
      There was a video with a poisoned chair in a cafe smile

      very similar ...)))

      The result is known, they will imprison them for a long time .. Did they scoff at Russian football bastards?
    2. +1
      13 October 2018 10: 45
      Mark Wahlberg, actually, on the right smile
      1. +6
        13 October 2018 12: 15
        Quote: Bass Navigator
        Mark Wahlberg, actually, on the right smile

        Yes, do not care, one company ... negative
  3. +3
    13 October 2018 10: 08
    The little shavers are stupid and they will believe in FSE.
  4. +4
    13 October 2018 10: 18
    And in Britain there were still sober heads
  5. +1
    13 October 2018 10: 52
    Grass is not grass, and Europe will have to pay money for leaving the EU request
  6. +6
    13 October 2018 11: 00
    Since 2010, the whole world knows what GRU looks like. There is nothing for people to fool their heads ...
  7. +8
    13 October 2018 11: 03
    Even in the distant goal of 1857 (a couple of years after the Crimean floodplain), the sepoy uprising occurred as a protest against the brutal colonial policy of Britain. Britain immediately blamed Russia for this. Allegedly inciting the rebels. Nothing has changed since then.
  8. +2
    13 October 2018 11: 03
    The journalist badly considers the dead as a result of the use of weapons of mass destruction. The Skripale cat and the guinea pigs died of thirst. Apparently this is an irreparable loss and caused a political storm.
  9. +2
    13 October 2018 11: 03
    And the fact that there was a lot of rape in Salisbury? And Theresa May was covering them. In the UK, the scandal was concrete, but she "closed" it. Dumb assigned creature. am
    1. +2
      13 October 2018 12: 21
      Quote: Fedorov
      But was there a bunch of rapes in Salisbury?

      Yeshkin the cat and it still will show us?

      laughing bully I would react like that too ... ha ha ha
      1. 0
        14 October 2018 05: 30
        Be sure to show photos from surveillance cameras ... naughty, damn it!
  10. -2
    13 October 2018 11: 12
    ] The Independent: The authorities portray the GRU as a bunch of losers, but was there any poisoning? but someone in the Kremlin skillfully played along, made their agents homosexual. Who has done more damage to the image of the Russian special services MI 6 or RT big-big [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = 2pbNKvm_vtY question. [Media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = 2pbNKvm_vtY]
  11. +1
    13 October 2018 11: 21
    Quote: Irek
    The little shavers are stupid and they will believe in FSE.

    Here is the most interesting - how many of these turned out to be in the geyrop ??? I mean the expulsion of diplomats - Grandma divorced everyone !!!
    1. 0
      14 October 2018 05: 31
      He’s still dancing before new accusations - probably a belly dance this time!
  12. -2
    13 October 2018 11: 37
    Well, knowing how our officials work, then the level may well drop ... I know how they demand ... checks for a taxi, I’ll be afraid of what I’ll spend on myself! ... Save a penny then millions lose ... There are officials in the GRU too among financiers ... How is the GRU Accountant different from the ChOP accountant? Nothing! Same ! And before the bookkeeping all the Generals are dancing ... even the most militant and advanced!
    1. 0
      13 October 2018 12: 28
      Quote: Samara_63
      Well, knowing how our officials work, the level may well fall.

      What do you know about ordinary officials in the provinces of Russia? They plow quietly, all over Russia for 15 thousand. They sit and work for millions .... Understanding perfectly where this money they collect will go .. hi
      1. -2
        13 October 2018 12: 43
        This is not work ... this is serving the room
    2. +7
      13 October 2018 13: 54
      Mot is bad luck.
      1. +2
        14 October 2018 05: 34
        Declassified recipe for using "Novice" in the field conditions of an English city. You need to get a mouthful of BOV and blow hard with the resulting saliva-poisonous mixture on the door handle of a potential enemy !!!! Rinse your mouth before and after using "Novichok" with a mixture of chlorine and nitric acid and everything will be in order!
  13. 0
    13 October 2018 12: 35
    In the actions of the British side, clumsy media work is visible. In the actions of the Russian side, unnecessary zeal, haste and clumsy work. Movement in the tail of events.
    1. 0
      14 October 2018 05: 36
      All as always, sir!
  14. +3
    13 October 2018 13: 20
    -If not poisoned, then why are you making excuses?
    -If you were poisoned, then why are you making excuses?
    I can’t say anything more to our Foreign Ministry.
  15. -1
    13 October 2018 13: 27
    Petrov and Boshirov for 3 days came to England to have fun (according to them).
    Of these, 2 days were spent on 2 trips to the town of Salisbury to admire the cathedral (according to them).
    But they forgot to take pictures near the cathedral (they were so impressed by its grandeur smile ).
    On the day of their second visit, a former intelligence officer, the traitor Skripal, was found unconscious on a park bench.
    Question: what does Petrov and Boshirov have to do with it? belay
    1. -2
      13 October 2018 13: 47
      Not at all. Let prove who poisoned the Skripals. In the meantime, not a very version.
      1. 0
        14 October 2018 14: 05
        To begin with, England still has not proved that Skripale finally someone poisoned.
        After all, all this is accepted on faith (or not accepted) from unfounded allegations of English gentlemen and ice. The facts, proven facts, the English side has not yet provided.
    2. 0
      14 October 2018 05: 38
      And how many different lobotracers and rotozei came to Sosberry that day to look at the spire and show themselves to the spire? Everyone needs to be caught and imprisoned !!! Milestone, sir, not applicable to all!
    3. +1
      14 October 2018 14: 23
      Are you sure that Petrov and Boshirov were not photographed near / against the background of the cathedral?
      If you have not been shown something, this does not mean that it was not. Just as it does not mean that it was. Is the absence of photographs on the background of the cathedral a crime? Imagine how many billions of people can be blamed on this basis.
      Further, England provided a photo / video of Petrov and Boshirov in Salisbury. England did not show them on the background of the cathedral, does this prove that England does not have video / photo on the background of the cathedral’s spire? But England did not show them against the background of the doorknob of the desired door at the time of allegedly applying the alleged perfume from the bottle, but this is already interesting why such photos were not shown. There is already one of two things: either England really does not have photos / videos of these people against such a background, or England is forced to hide something.
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  17. 0
    13 October 2018 14: 47
    Wow, did someone in Britain begin to think and ask questions in the media?
  18. +1
    13 October 2018 15: 12
    Quote: rotfuks
    The Skripal cat was dead ...


    Kota sorry crying and the rest is all husk. In the seventies, wherever the "hand of Moscow" could not reach, they blamed everything. The truth is mostly Office. Then they, perhaps, did not even know such an abbreviation - GRU. Soon Skripali even there will make everyone sore, so they will come up with a new thread again. Otherwise, nothing, the image of the enemy must be maintained. But there is still one problem here - a strange couple from Russia. Well, they do not look like such crazy fans of British architecture. The Britons are clearly in a puddle with this story, but we have not all "thank God" here. I did not believe in the involvement of our structures in the poisoning, and I do not believe, but there are some misunderstandings such as these "architecture lovers". Guys, what is their opinion on this? Share. hi
    1. 0
      14 October 2018 05: 41
      There is an opinion !!! how without menin? The purpose of the operation was a cat of violins !!!! He was poisoned, reptile. And so the owners fell under the doorknob. This is a joke. But the fact that Russia has nothing to do with it all normal people understand. The arguments, facts and arguments of the sea and all of them repeat finger pain every time.
    2. 0
      15 October 2018 09: 10
      I did not believe in the involvement of our structures in the poisoning, and I do not believe, but there are some misunderstandings such as these "architecture lovers". - and misunderstandings do not add up to a picture? )) that HERE to lie to each other ?! well, they trawled a traitor and that ... you have to lie to the UN, not in the kitchen
    3. +1
      15 October 2018 11: 54
      And why no one is considering the version that they had a meeting on their business (not quite legal, it seems)? In this case, everything immediately falls into place. At first we had fun, because we arrived ahead of time or something did not work out on the first day, and then we left home, completing the task. Only now they are not agents and, therefore, therefore, all these mistakes. It’s impossible to talk about business, because even if they don’t travel, they still have contacts and other participants. How do you like this version?
  19. 0
    14 October 2018 05: 25
    It came to British brains!
  20. 0
    14 October 2018 14: 01
    We start from the beginning: - England provided evidence of its assumptions?
    And the question is not in the GRU / NKVD / KGB and other letters of the alphabet, the question is different. Thus, the very expression "about the spoons found and the remaining sediment" is realized.
    This is not the first case of unfounded accusations. And this circuit really works.
    What to do? Further work and the GRU, and the KGB, and the NKVD. And then deny everything.
    Only work more accurately, Schaub does not fall so mediocre.
    1. 0
      14 October 2018 14: 27
      Shaw, it never happened, and here it is again? Again?
      Again unsubstantiated, fearful administrator horror from my comment?
      So you are also involved in the events in England - this is the only explanation, a logical explanation for such a reaction to my comment.
    2. +1
      15 October 2018 11: 59
      So where did we get that someone from the special services was fired? Perhaps the simplest explanation is the most correct. Petrov and Boshirov have nothing to do with the special services and behaved like ordinary businessmen in a semi-underground business. This fully explains everything.
  21. +1
    14 October 2018 23: 07
    There is great doubt about the professionalism of our special services. Recently, they have been mainly engaged in roofing and the provision of other similar services. We don’t have any enemies behind the cards, but all the more so, since people who stole billions and are wanted go to London.
    1. +1
      15 October 2018 12: 26
      Firstly, all these tasks are carried out by different departments. Secondly, it is unclear what the interaction is now. Thirdly, we wanted freedom so much that now it’s not so simple to check everything so as not to run into highly paid lawyers. So there are enough difficulties without the described services ((
  22. +1
    15 October 2018 09: 08
    they didn’t poison, but these Beavis and Badhet have already lied a dozen times ... so even kindergartens already understand who they are ... and what kind of spire they looked at
  23. 0
    15 October 2018 22: 50
    Quote: Karislav
    they didn’t poison, but these Beavis and Badhet have already lied a dozen times ... so even kindergartens already understand who they are ... and what kind of spire they looked at


    Well, Artyom, you hit the spot right with Beavis and Butt-head! good Well, these little men don't look like operatives. Whether the GRU or the "Offices", they have secondary education on their foreheads. And be that as it may, how not to refer to these departments, people are seriously trained there for work abroad.
    I am more inclined to the version of our esteemed colleague Igor Tsimbal, he was the first to suggest that there is some kind of elementary "prohindiada" and that the secret service does not smell at all. Plus for the idea. drinks