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In Transbaikalia, a truck with ammunition exploded

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In Transbaikalia, a truck with ammunition exploded

During the transportation of ammunition to be disposed of in the area of ​​the "Tsugol" landfill in the Trans-Baikal Territory, a fire broke out in one of the column vehicles. The spokesman for the Eastern Military District, Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Gordeyev, confirmed the RIA "News"fact of state of emergency:" As a result of a fire, there was an explosion of the ammunition that was in the back of the car, there were no damages and no injuries. "

According to witnesses of the incident, the convoy was sent to the landfill for the planned destruction of the shells that had served. At some point, the locking car suddenly caught fire. The driver left the cab and managed to run a safe distance, followed by a series of explosions.

The scene of the incident quickly cordoned off by military forces. There is no danger for the civilian population, the nearest settlement is located in 20 km from the explosion site. "Currently, the fire is localized, an investigation is underway. The military KamAZ burned to the ground," Gordeev said.

The military prosecutor's office of the Eastern Military District and the military prosecutor's office of the Borzinsky garrison began checking on the fact of the explosion. Two preliminary versions of what happened are being put forward. According to the first, as a result of a fire while driving, a truck could detonate a fuel tank. According to the second, the fire started when the missiles were loaded into the truck.

Recently, in Russia there was a whole series of emergency at military sites. So, May 24 at the Ashuluksky testing ground in the Astrakhan region caught fire and exploded 145 crates in which there were 840 shots to grenade launchers. As a result, one soldier was injured and provided with necessary medical assistance.

A week before that, on May 18, a fire occurred at the Defense Ministry’s warehouse in Primorsky Krai, where hundred-millimeter shells are stored. Because of the threat of spontaneous launches from nearby settlements, civilians were evacuated. Two people were injured. According to the preliminary version, the fire broke out during the preparation of ammunition for disposal.

And on May 3, on the territory of the Mulino military test site in the Nizhny Novgorod region, one of them unexpectedly exploded during the planned destruction of the spent shells. Four soldiers-conscripts died on the spot, two more died in hospital. According to the Investigative Committee, the explosion thundered when laying ammunition from the car to the ground.
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  1. Aventurinka
    Aventurinka 28 May 2012 13: 17
    +7
    But haven’t there been a lot of recent explosions during disposal ... what
    Experts, explain what it smells like ..? otherwise it suggests all sorts of thoughts .... You don’t already know which way to think ...
    Or mundane (already) disorder, or ....
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 28 May 2012 13: 30
      +9
      Quote: Aventurinka
      Or mundane (already) disorder, or ....

      Julia, I also tend to think that "or". Fire usually destroys all traces reliably recourse
      1. patline
        patline 28 May 2012 13: 53
        +6
        It seems to me that they notice the theft. And how else can one explain the frequency of such incidents.
        It is likely that ours in the Caucasus died from these stolen ammunition. All this catastrophe must be thoroughly investigated. Yes, I think they are already investigating and there will be landings.
        And then, disposal by the method of undermining, in my opinion, is not a very practical way. Surely there is a technology for disassembling old ammunition and reusing materials. Yes, and you can officially sell inexpensively abroad - all at least some kind of profit will be, and so are some expenses and emergency.
    2. SIA
      SIA 28 May 2012 14: 30
      +4
      Indeed, recently Ashuluk thundered all over the country. Where next time gasps? When loading, it is necessary to take away everything flammable, matches, cigarettes, lighters from the soldiers. And the officers are tough to tear out for the incident, up to the commander of the district.
    3. viruskvartirus
      viruskvartirus 28 May 2012 16: 13
      +3
      I can not attribute myself to specialists, but I know that with prolonged improper storage of explosives (contact with water and air) pyraxides (peroxides) are formed. They are extremely unstable and outperform nitroglycerin .... They turn out two times ... for example, acetone peroxide ...
      1. 755962
        755962 28 May 2012 16: 34
        +4
        More and more such cases began to acquire a systemic character. One question, DOCLE?
      2. 77bor1973
        77bor1973 29 May 2012 11: 26
        0
        I think this is a way of recycling in Russia like this, but seriously, what the hell knows what is happening!
    4. Neighbor
      Neighbor 28 May 2012 16: 37
      +4
      Quote: Aventurinka
      explain what it smells like ..? and then suggests all sorts of thoughts ....

      It smells like - nobody has disposed of them 100 years since the times of the USSR - and right now - they have taken!
      And accordingly - the experience and specialists - in this area - on the fingers count. Therefore - we are learning - from our own mistakes - for now! sad
      Quote: patline
      It seems to me that they notice the theft.

      Completely !!! am
      About what it was - that it is better to have 7 repositories or 670. wassat
      There are half of the ammunition - no longer! On these 670. On METALLOM surrendered! yes
      There is no control as it was before. There was one confusion and there was a mess before. Try it - keep it in mind and check - you’ll visit them for 2 years - until you go around and check everything belay . In the meantime, you will recount - another 2 years will pass! belay
      Because - and stole. Color met. There - from a month ago Toko - one was caught - shells on a color.met. handed over almost tons. He stole - in his garage he took over and handed over!
      And so -7 storages - it will be ORDER !!! - at any time - a check may be. Moreover - modern conditions of storage and accounting, control.
      And there will be no - theft and explosions - "accidental". yes
      Ps - again you can return to the question - about the commanders! What's going on - in parts with their knowledge and tacit consent. This is about an article - about nat. composition in the army and lawlessness - which are created by all sorts of ethnic "collectives" in units.
  2. Russian sniper
    Russian sniper 28 May 2012 13: 25
    +2
    We generally understand what is safety engineering!?! angry
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 28 May 2012 13: 44
      +4
      Quote: Russian Sniper
      We generally understand what is safety engineering!?!

      In Transbaikalia in general, something incomprehensible is happening, the children were blown up at the training ground, they collected it, but in general the case of 2011 doesn’t climb into any gates
      An abandoned KamAZ truck with ammunition was found in the Trans-Baikal Territory, which was hijacked on September 5. Artillery shells that were in the car at the time of the theft, remained in place, reports RBC.

      The regional department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs reports that after a message about the abduction of a truck with ammunition was received from the military unit in the police department in the Mogoytuysky district, an investigation and operational group was immediately sent to the place. Police detained people from neighboring regions of the region to detain the car.

      As specified in the Mogoytuy police department, there were 40 artillery shells in the missing car. The truck was initially stolen, but later it turned out that on this car one of the servicemen left the military unit in which he was serving without permission. After KamAZ got stuck in the mud, the soldier returned to the unit on foot, and told his superiors the legend of the theft.

      An investigation is underway. If the soldier’s guilt is proved, punishment awaits.
  3. itr
    itr 28 May 2012 13: 27
    +1
    Soldiers do not smoke in the right places. I do not write for the first time. He rode a bullock threw it from the window onto the camouflage net and went ahead for orders
    Traitors and spies here does not smell
    1. Kars
      Kars 28 May 2012 13: 36
      +14
      It smells more like thieves. How long does it take to burn for a shot to explode into an RPG in a crate?
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 28 May 2012 13: 43
        +3
        Probably check this year. As they say no and no trial.
      2. Armata
        Armata 28 May 2012 13: 44
        +5
        Quote: Kars

        It smells more like thieves

        I agree that in most cases it is the tracks that are swept away, but sloppiness is also not the last fact in such cases.
      3. itr
        itr 28 May 2012 14: 06
        0
        in my opinion grenades with RPGs are stored in boxes and in the closures charges for shells well, for example 125mm for a tank
  4. Yoshkin Kot
    Yoshkin Kot 28 May 2012 13: 35
    -1
    Well, thank God! has carried!
  5. Alexred
    Alexred 28 May 2012 13: 37
    +6
    While I was serving (and I was serving in the engineer and combat engineer brigade), when transporting explosives, we very much torn for safety for a cigarette and you’ll get a hit on the head, and such frequent emergency situations with ammunition are perplexing
  6. tverskoi77
    tverskoi77 28 May 2012 13: 40
    +4
    They began to dispose of ammunition, but only everything before her had already been stolen. It is difficult to explain the mass explosions in another way.
  7. rinzhak
    rinzhak 28 May 2012 13: 47
    +1
    Serdyukov to resign! it would be time for not only the military, but also the civilians in the Armed Forces to start calling for an answer. (but you won’t leave after all)
  8. sergey69
    sergey69 28 May 2012 14: 03
    +3
    Maybe Serdyukov would have left, Putin will not give legs. It is necessary to bring the reforms to the end.
    1. rinzhak
      rinzhak 28 May 2012 14: 05
      -1
      Quote: sergey69
      Putin will not give legs. It is necessary to bring the reforms to the end.

      so it can last forever, what end?
  9. Nursultan
    Nursultan 28 May 2012 14: 08
    +2
    even it's sad. often such articles began to appear. recourse
  10. lcalex
    lcalex 28 May 2012 14: 16
    +4
    According to the first, as a result of a fire while driving by a truck, it could detonate a fuel tank.
    And why did the fire happen?

    According to the second, the fire started when loading rockets into the truck.
    What is it like!? The body is on fire, but we don’t care if it gets there somehow?

    What nonsense? Or didn’t I understand something?
  11. welder
    welder 28 May 2012 14: 26
    +3
    maybe someone is now sitting in his office and thinks - ,,, give a ride ... you can breathe '' '
  12. TekhnarMAF
    TekhnarMAF 28 May 2012 14: 47
    +2
    We loaded a couple of boxes with shells, the rest was empty containers. The car was parked at the end of the column. Drove fired and legs in hand. Bang! No things, no theft! Competently done, without victims. Well, the military prosecutor's office will come up with a version - like "a UFO was blowing, an alien blotted a cigarette butt, hit the back and ..."
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 28 May 2012 14: 52
      +4
      Quote: TehnarMAF
      Loaded a couple of boxes with shells, the rest is empty. The car was parked at the end of the column. Drove lit and legs in hand. Bah! No things, no theft! Properly done, without injuries.


      Zampotech for this business will write off and sell a new car. In short, all a bunch of "nishtyakov". Military business wink
  13. Deniska999
    Deniska999 28 May 2012 14: 55
    +2
    As I said before, all these explosions are part of one link ...
  14. shadow 555
    shadow 555 28 May 2012 15: 13
    +3
    As ammunition often began to explode, something is suspicious
  15. bremest
    bremest 28 May 2012 16: 12
    +2
    Savings on recruiting conscripts for disposal. This is stool management. How stupid it is to continue to act so criminally .... I think that GDP will personally reap the fruits of the unpopularity and stupidity of a stool ....
  16. kekse
    kekse 28 May 2012 16: 33
    +2
    What is the point of blowing along the road to the landfill? If you had to notice the traces, it was necessary before being exported from the warehouse. When loading, accounting is in progress.
  17. Sleptsoff
    Sleptsoff 28 May 2012 16: 37
    -3
    As long as boots and earflaps will be in use in our army, explosions are inevitable.
  18. bamboo
    bamboo 28 May 2012 17: 45
    +2
    That's what I came up with, if the ammunition depot explodes for a long time, it means it was stolen a little, if only a couple of days it means it was stolen there unintentionally)) laughing
  19. Starksa
    Starksa 28 May 2012 17: 50
    0
    As all this is already tired. when will they take their heads? No one knows...
  20. Igor
    Igor 28 May 2012 18: 24
    0
    Quote: StarkSA
    As all this is already tired. when will they take their heads? No one knows...


    The trouble is that there is no head, so there’s nothing to grab laughing
  21. Cadet787
    Cadet787 28 May 2012 18: 35
    0
    The casket opens simply to dispose of ammunition in this process you need to invest money, but the "stooltkin" solved this issue differently, stupidly blowing them up, risking the lives of our soldiers, there are special installations that melt an explosive, freeing a projectile made of high-alloy steel, many shell casings are made of brass, but now imagine how much it costs and how much money is thrown into the wind after an explosion. All these installations are in our industry, this issue should be dealt with by civil organizations, not by the troops, which is not typical for them, the ammunition is disposed of, those who produce it. But the MO must pay for that. This is such a sad outcome and this is not the end of this story.
  22. Mikhalych1
    Mikhalych1 28 May 2012 20: 03
    +2
    Well, it can’t be just army negligence. Even sweeping theft is simply hard to believe. Well, okay once, twice, well, three times ....., but not with the same periodicity. What's happening???
  23. okroshka79
    okroshka79 28 May 2012 20: 30
    0
    Who says, now we have in our country a military educational institution for the training of specialists exclusively in ammunition? In Soviet times, for sure, it was. And recycling was done primarily by these specialists. It seems to me that now highly skilled specialists have simply transferred, and simple artillery training in this matter is not enough. So they explode. Perhaps this is one of the reasons for these emergencies.
    1. Cadet787
      Cadet787 28 May 2012 23: 25
      0
      Until recently, ammunition specialists were trained by the Penza Higher Engineering Artillery School
  24. Idunavs
    Idunavs 28 May 2012 21: 13
    +1
    theft of clean water.
  25. aspirin02
    aspirin02 28 May 2012 23: 22
    -1
    What will the intervention of Ukraine in Transnistria lead to?

    The deterioration of trade relations between Kiev and Moscow (“cheese”, “gas” and “carriage” wars) led the Ukrainian government to once again decide to help Chisinau with the supply of alternative gas, thereby removing Transdniestria from Russia.

    For the second week, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine has been discussing the results of the meeting of the head of Transnistria, E. Shevchuk, with the Prime Minister of Moldova, V. Filat, which took place in Odessa without the participation of representatives of the Russian Federation. The Ukrainian ministry is credited with the fact that the dialogue between Moldova and Transnistria was established thanks to the Ukrainian side.

    Political analyst Vadim Kiselev is sure that Shevchuk’s consent to such a meeting, which the ex-president of the Transdniestrian Republic so stubbornly refused, I. Smirnov, directly indicates that Moscow made many mistakes during the presidential elections in Transnistria. The Russian government has relied on Anatoly Kaminsky, whose technologies were directed against both Smirnov and Shevchuk. The political scientist also noted that Ukraine took advantage of the situation to intensify its position in Tiraspol.




    After the investigation of the criminal case against Tymoshenko, the Ukrainian government turned out to be without the support of the IMF. But at the same time, it does not dare to raise tariffs for housing and communal services. Therefore, forced by any means to prove their loyalty to the West. The past week was marked by the fact that, at the request of the Americans, the Ukrainian authorities were forced to close the free Ukrainian file hosting service EX.UA. However, it is still unclear whether the government was forced to back down due to social unrest and the loss of official government sites, or deftly took advantage of the situation to save income from pirated products. But in terms of foreign policy, it has managed to annoy Russia, and at the same time like Brussels and Washington.

    To date, Ukraine has promised, if not fully resolving the Transnistrian issue, then to achieve its significant advancement to 2014, the time when Ukraine will be the OSCE chairman. According to expert Grigory Perepelitsa, the Russian authorities are now fully busy with the presidential elections, so there is no time for Transnistria. In addition, Russia will be forced, if necessary, to take appropriate measures on the Iranian and Syrian tracks. Such a situation may lead to the fact that Russia will lose time, and Ukraine will be able to adopt its policy of restoring potential in GUAM.

    G.Perepelitsa also reminded that at a time when relations between Ukraine and Russia were warmer, the presidents of the two countries signed a statement that the Ukrainian authorities would not conduct negotiations on the Transnistrian Republic without the participation of the Russian Federation. But after the negotiations on the gas issue were thwarted, Yanukovych decided to return to the policy pursued by his predecessor, V. Yushchenko, even though he himself criticized it.

    According to political analyst Taras Berezovets, the Ukrainian guarantor gave the command to assist in the process of drawing Tiraspol into the Moldovan orbit, as the republic comes closer to the EU. Shevchuk loyal to the West, moving away from Moscow. Therefore, for Ukraine, such a development is only at hand. Dealing with the process of separating the Transnistrian Moldavian Republic from Moscow, the Ukrainian government has an excellent opportunity to improve its position in the eyes of the West, as well as approach European integration with Chisinau.

    In order to achieve this goal, during the visit of Moldovan Prime Minister Vlad Filat (who, by the way, was accepted as the future President of Moldova after 2014), a decision was made to create a European region “Dniester”, the goal of which is undoubtedly the reorientation of the Transnistrian Republic to the West. Moreover, the Romanian side has already approved such a step.

    In addition, the signing of such an agreement is another good reason for “a little revenge” for Russia, which threatens to introduce quotas for Ukrainian imported products, and also refuses to reduce gas prices that are very heavy for the Ukrainian economy. Therefore, it is not surprising that during the Kiev meeting, the question was raised about the need to reduce the dependence of the two states on the issue of gas supplies from Russia, and they also promised reduced gas supplies from the LNG terminal, which will be located in Odessa.

    However, there is one more, no less important reason, which forces the Ukrainian government to play against Moscow - the desire to expand and strengthen its control over Transnistria’s industrial assets.

    According to political analyst Yury Romanchenko, the Rybnitsa and Kamensky districts of Transnistria will be part of the new Euro-region. It is not a secret to anyone that the Minsk Motor Plant is owned by Ukrainian oligarchs who want to secure the right of sole possession. In addition, in the case of Moldovan assistance in rapprochement of Transnistria with the West, the Ukrainian authorities will be able to resolve with benefit for themselves the issue of the border zone in the Dniester region, because of which Ukraine has been accusing Moldova for more than a year of interruptions in the operation of the Dniester hydroelectric station. It should also be noted that the entire flow of smuggling supplies that go through the territory of Transnistria is under the control of the Ukrainian oligarchs.

    The Ukrainian government would not have refused to establish control over the railway traffic passing through the Transdnistrian Moldavian Republic, since Ukraine has certain problems with the provision of railway communication with the Danube ports. Today it goes through the northern territories of Moldova, which affects the amount of transport costs. And if we take into account some development of relations between Tiraspol and the West, then we can hope for the support of Transnistria, which will take the side of Ukraine.

    For all the obvious positive points, Ukrainian political analysts are very skeptical about the prospects for long-term cooperation between Ukraine and Transdniestria, noting that the Ukrainian side does not have such a large amount of diplomatic resources to strengthen its status during the negotiations between Russia and the West on Transnistria. Despite the fact that so far the Ukrainian government has been able to make good moves, the fragility of the negotiation process between Moldova and Transdniestria, as well as Ukraine’s tarnished reputation in the EU, can play a trick on official Kiev. An open confrontation with Russia and an attempt to satisfy the needs of the oligarchs may cause Ukraine to once again remain without the support of the West, and also ask for a tough response from the Russian Federation ...
  26. Odinplys
    Odinplys 28 May 2012 23: 33
    +1
    "In Transbaikalia, a truck with ammunition was blown up" - I read the name and one thought ... it would carry the guys ... this time it did ... but as long as possible ...
    I also bow ... there is a concealment of theft ...
  27. Vanek
    Vanek 29 May 2012 07: 23
    0
    KamAZ burned to the ground smile Well, presumably with the explosion of shells.

    But did they even find a car there? laughing

    The troops are getting new equipment, right? What to do with the old?

    Here are the sappers and joking. Both the car and the ammunition are disposed of. Two hares .......
  28. runway
    runway 29 May 2012 08: 03
    0
    In order to reduce the accounting of ammunition to the required reporting, it is completely optional to undermine the truck... Therefore, this version of the participants in the discussion is erroneous. Are cases of unauthorized detonation of ammunition already so frequent that they are already causing jokes? At the same time, the topic is serious. Stakeholders continue to make "blood money". On the blood of our brothers and children. After all, those production structures that are supposed to dispose of ammunition (Oboronservis) are not loaded, and conscripts are carrying out dismantling by blasting!
  29. thatupac
    thatupac 29 May 2012 09: 28
    0
    Typical army negligence and sloppiness. Constantly write off an emergency for theft can only a narrow-minded person. Some are hacking - others are dying.