F-35 Lightning II flights suspended indefinitely

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The US military has decided to suspend the flights of fifth-generation F-35 Lightning II fighters for an indefinite period. In this case, the ban applies to all modifications of the aircraft, reports BBC News.

F-35 Lightning II flights suspended indefinitely




According to BBC News, the command of the United States Air Force made this decision after the crash of the F-35B US Marine Corps, which crashed on September 28 near Beaufort Air Base in South Carolina. Moreover, the catastrophe happened the next day after the "baptism of the aircraft" in Afghanistan. As previously reported, the fighter pilot managed to eject; the fighter’s crash was recognized as an A-class accident, i.e. the incident that led to the complete destruction of the aircraft.

According to preliminary data published by the US Air Force Command, the cause of the crash was a malfunction in the fuel system of the aircraft, and therefore the entire fleet of available F-35 aircraft of all modifications will be checked. Until the end of the full test, all flights of the F-35 Lightning II are prohibited, and the ban on the operation of fighter aircraft also extends to other countries that are armed with these aircraft.
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  1. +26
    11 October 2018 18: 23
    Does Israel also have this ban? laughing
    1. +6
      11 October 2018 18: 25
      Spreads..
      1. +25
        11 October 2018 18: 32
        Oh, what a bummer to Waltzman ... And he was waiting for them at the "exercises"))) And he hoped that at least one decommissioned one would be presented .. wassat
        I watch "comrades from Israel" all at once all react instantly to such articles (do you have a siren there? Urgent collection, they beat our people ..)))
        1. +17
          11 October 2018 19: 04
          Quote: Svarog
          Does Israel also have this ban? laughing


          Quote: Shahno
          Spreads..


          oh how on time

          Probably the Ukrainian S-300s react "incorrectly" to invisibility?
          1. +9
            11 October 2018 19: 33
            Quote: bulvas
            oh how on time
            Probably the Ukrainian S-300s react "incorrectly" to invisibility?

            Most likely, from the action of Ukrainian S-300 locators, invisibility appears to be incontinence (urine) of fuel. And what will happen when they are met by our S-300? Probably they will break all the pipes. Yes
            1. +2
              11 October 2018 19: 46
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              And what will happen when they are met by our S-300? Probably they will break all the pipes.



              It is also interesting that the "Syrian" S-300 and S-400 from our bases are likely to work in the same network.

              Therefore ... it is better to let them stand on the ground, treat fuel incontinence
              1. -19
                11 October 2018 20: 10
                It is also interesting that the "Syrian" S-300 and S-400 from our bases are likely to work in the same network.
                After the incident with the Il-20, it is not interesting at all. In two words, the S-2 showed all its "power", having blinded the air situation around itself and letting a similar situation actually happen under its nose, next to the base. Well, or the second option .. The stars light up ...
                1. +2
                  11 October 2018 20: 54
                  It was not the S-400 that was sent, but the command. It failed to establish reconnaissance and flight control, coordinating with the subordinate, and controlling their actions.
                2. +5
                  11 October 2018 22: 04
                  they saw everything, but did not expect such meanness from respected partners.
            2. -4
              12 October 2018 05: 34
              no Israeli f35 will launch a rocket that will confidently hit our c300 and calmly return to base.
              1. 0
                12 October 2018 20: 29
                Are you SURE that a piece of metal is not soooooooo visible on locators? Congratulations, you live in NARNIA !!!
          2. +4
            11 October 2018 19: 45
            Probably the Ukrainian S-300s react "incorrectly" to invisibility?
            Very likely.
          3. +2
            11 October 2018 20: 25
            Quote: bulvas
            oh how on time

            And then. This is the best way to not face dirt for them. To do this, they did not even regret their plane))
        2. -1
          12 October 2018 05: 31
          And I look at our compatriots in our first coma immediately about Israel .. we have here that in Russia all the anti-Semites?
      2. +10
        11 October 2018 18: 32
        hi
        Why does Israel not want to create its own fighters? You have such minds, because you have an excellent defense industry. That only is "Iron Dome" and armored vehicles. Acquiring an almost flightable model is very unlike you.
        1. +14
          11 October 2018 18: 37
          Big brother does not allow.
          Once they created a plane, and their brother stopped supplying spare parts to the already existing ones from Amertkan. I had to refuse to let in a series
          https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi
          1. +5
            11 October 2018 18: 40
            And nafik needs such a brother, one asks? Which counts money only in his pocket.
            1. +8
              11 October 2018 19: 09
              uh ... everything is much more complicated .... between brothers
            2. +7
              11 October 2018 19: 33
              Quote: Zubr
              And nafik needs such a brother

              A brother may not be needed. But the owner will be least interested in the opinion of his Jewish slaves, whom he has long identified as cannon fodder.
              1. +2
                12 October 2018 05: 40
                Well, if you consider that the US Democratic Party is completely controlled by the Jews, then you have written complete nonsense ... and if you look at the relations between the USA and Israel, you can sometimes suspect that the former pay tribute to the latter ...
                1. +6
                  12 October 2018 06: 26
                  Quote: aws4
                  US Democratic Party is fully controlled by Jews

                  You are wrong. My childhood friends, for example, succumbed to the persuasion of distant relatives and moved to Israel. And the first thing that these "relatives" did was robbed them like a sticky one and put them on the street in spite of a small child. And there are thousands of such examples. Cunning and cheating in Jewish culture is considered a virtue and a sign of intelligence. There is no question of any national solidarity there, this propaganda is aimed only at luring stupid Jews from other countries where they have assimilated into the local culture.
                  As for the United States, everyone knows that oligarchs and moneybags rule there. In American culture, it is officially promoted as "smart and lucky people who were able to rise from the bottom." And these "smart-lucky" successfully control the government and the population through the media using psychological and social methods of managing the society, which it has turned into a dumb dumb cattle. At the same time, national identity, including among Jews, Masulman, blacks, whites, people of color, is remembered only when it is beneficial to the authorities. In all other cases, the concepts of discrimination and equality are used.
                  1. +2
                    12 October 2018 06: 37
                    Bravo gave a great example !! .. the relations between the two states and the alignment of forces and influence in the two party system of the USA were compared with the way your Jewish acquaintances were robbed in Israel ... your logic is ironic !!!
            3. 0
              12 October 2018 20: 30
              Quote: Zubr
              And nafik needs such a brother, one asks? Which counts money only in his pocket.

              "monkey" brother laughing
          2. 0
            11 October 2018 18: 49
            Quote: Zubr
            Why does Israel itself not want to create its own fighters? Your minds are concentrated, because you have a great defense.

            Quote: Roman777
            Once created a saoy plane

            Israel has a fairly large range of UAVs, they are able to create an airplane, yes "sins" do not allow.
            1. +3
              11 October 2018 18: 58
              Quote: saturn.mmm
              Israel has a fairly large range of UAVs, they are able to create an airplane, yes "sins" do not allow.

              Seriously? Are they also capable of creating dvigun? They don’t need it ... just like with Merkava, with a string of peace, Israel is a tank. This is the only way they can create a fighter. And from scratch, the belly button will untie.
              1. 0
                11 October 2018 19: 11
                Will not get loose. Name at least one plane in the USSR in which the Jews did not play a significant role?
                That's it! And that means they have a school!
                1. +7
                  11 October 2018 19: 12
                  Quote: Carpenter 2329
                  Will not get loose. Name at least one plane in the USSR in which the Jews did not play a significant role?
                  That's it! And that means they have a school!

                  Che, seriously? Name at least one world-class fighter that Israel created ...
                  1. -1
                    11 October 2018 19: 35
                    And I will not name. A simple answer is known in advance for this tricky question. There is no such airplane.
                    We are talking about the failure of Israel, with which I completely disagree. They have that ability. Partially arising from the Soviet design school and traditions.
                    Another question - do they need it? And without that, the latest NATO aircraft of every generation is the first thing Israel has.
                    1. +4
                      11 October 2018 19: 59
                      Quote: Carpenter 2329
                      We are talking about the failure of Israel, with which I completely disagree.

                      Avionics, maybe the arsenal and the glider, the Jews will be able to plan ... but there is no dvigun, from the word at all. A simple example of China, which will have more industrial capacities and what? And as one of our designer aircraft used to say, it is built around the engine.
                      1. -4
                        12 October 2018 05: 49
                        they can and you know it, just lying intentionally ... it’s just not practical for little Israel to create engines and capacities they don’t have and it’s expensive they don’t buy their planes with the best engines but for the money of those who sell them to them and need to be full idiots to refuse this .. we are talking about brains about frames about designers and you're trying to just chat the truth
                      2. +1
                        12 October 2018 08: 44
                        Quote: aws4
                        It is not advisable for small Israel to create engines and capacities they don’t have and it’s expensive and they buy their planes with the best engines not for their money but for the money of those who sell them to them and you have to be complete idiots to refuse it.

                        Yes Yes))))
                        With the same logic, the Saudis are able to create their "best airplane in the world", simply
                        1. They don’t need it
                        2. They are lazy
                        3. It’s easier for them to buy.
                        Blah blah blah.
                        But in fact, Russia has planes, the USA has, China has inferior ones, but it does, Israel does not, and will not (see the first three points)
                      3. 0
                        12 October 2018 20: 30
                        "but no dvigun, from the word at all." /////
                        ------
                        This is not true. In Israel, a very long time ago there was a factory for the repair of jet engines for F-16 and F-15 fighters. Full overhaul.
                        We can develop an engine, but the full production of a military aircraft will be unprofitable. Sweden proved this with its very good Gripen.
                        No sales.
                      4. -1
                        12 October 2018 20: 48
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        In Israel, a very long time ago there was a factory for the repair of jet engines for F-16 and F-15 fighters. Full overhaul.

                        We also have Len Rovers and Cadillacs being repaired, but world-class cars have not been able to create.
                        Repair, even overhaul and creating an engine from scratch, are completely different things.
                  2. +7
                    11 October 2018 19: 38
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Name at least one world-class fighter that Israel created ...

                    Lavi was a pretty decent car, by the way
                    1. +2
                      11 October 2018 19: 50
                      Lavi, emnip, was somehow (Wiggen? Too lazy to climb ...))) a Swedish remix.
                      And the speech went on the topic "from scratch".
                      1. +1
                        11 October 2018 20: 04
                        Well, I still looked about Lavi. He, yes, is not original. Wiggen and F-16 in one bottle. Well, this is normal for aviation, and more.
                        Roman Three Sevens correctly wrote - "brothers" there a little strangled them with this new. Well, yes - in the end, the F-16 turned out to be more profitable.
                      2. +4
                        11 October 2018 21: 21
                        Quote: Carpenter 2329
                        And the speech went on the topic "from scratch".

                        And who is from scratch?
                    2. +1
                      11 October 2018 19: 52
                      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Name at least one world-class fighter that Israel created ...

                      Lavi was a pretty decent car, by the way

                      Not really. 75 cars were planned to be released - at a cost it turned out, like a purchase of 100 F-16. And taking into account the fact that planes are bought with American aid money, the whole story became stupidly unprofitable, and we did not foresee superiority in quality.
                  3. AUL
                    0
                    11 October 2018 20: 09
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Quote: Carpenter 2329
                    Will not get loose. Name at least one plane in the USSR in which the Jews did not play a significant role?
                    That's it! And that means they have a school!

                    Che, seriously? Name at least one world-class fighter that Israel created ...

                    Kfir (if I'm not mistaken with the name)
                    1. +1
                      11 October 2018 20: 12
                      Quote from AUL
                      Kfir (if I'm not mistaken with the name)

                      Kfir (Hebrew כפיר, “lion cub”) is an all-weather multi-role fighter created by Israel Aerospace Industries based on the Dassault Mirage III with Israeli avionics and manufactured in Israel version of the American engine General Electric J79

                      Dvigun whose?
                    2. +2
                      11 October 2018 20: 13
                      A little bit wrong ... Kfir they sculpted from Mirage
                      wink
                    3. 0
                      11 October 2018 20: 28
                      Quote from AUL
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Quote: Carpenter 2329
                      Will not get loose. Name at least one plane in the USSR in which the Jews did not play a significant role?
                      That's it! And that means they have a school!

                      Che, seriously? Name at least one world-class fighter that Israel created ...

                      Kfir (if I'm not mistaken with the name)

                      There was Nesher
                      1. -1
                        13 October 2018 09: 08
                        Nesher was a licensed "Mirage III Balalayka" smile
                  4. 0
                    12 October 2018 02: 14
                    Name at least one world-class fighter that Israel created ...
                    It seems they had such - Kfir. But what is he in comparison with others, not aware
              2. 0
                11 October 2018 20: 45
                Quote: NEXUS
                Seriously? Are they also capable of creating dvigun?

                I'm talking about the plane. On Merkava, too, an American engine but an Israeli tank, on Zumwalt a British engine but an American destroyer
                1. +1
                  11 October 2018 21: 28
                  Quote: saturn.mmm
                  I'm talking about the plane.

                  No dvigun, no plane. They create an engine, and around it they already make glider, avionics, etc.
                  1. +1
                    11 October 2018 22: 35
                    Not always. And not always. You can read the story of the M-4. Not to mention the earlier ones - Messers, I-185, Spitfire, etc.
                  2. -1
                    12 October 2018 02: 59
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    They create an engine, and around it they already make glider, avionics, etc.
                    There is almost no engine for the Su-57. First glider - then finish the engine.
                    1. 0
                      12 October 2018 04: 37
                      Quote: Simargl
                      almost no engine. First glider - then finish the engine.

                      or are there options?
                    2. 0
                      12 October 2018 10: 56
                      Quote: Simargl
                      There is almost no engine for the Su-57. First glider - then finish the engine.

                      And the "product 117" AL-41F1 is what?
                      1. 0
                        12 October 2018 14: 56
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        And the "product 117" AL-41F1 is what?
                        Let's think about the text "For the Su-57 almost no engine. First the glider - then the engine will be finished. "
                        Quote: tvzvezda.ru
                        The Su-57 creation program involves the use of the AL-41F1 engine, which is also used on the Su-35, in the first stage of testing, and the new engine, known as the "Type-30", in the second. The aircraft made its first flight with this engine in December last year.
                        those. all the salt in the word almost... not this way?
              3. +2
                11 October 2018 22: 18
                yes, American engines were taken for Lavi, so Uncle Sam just explained there - why would you buy engines separately? Buy f-16 as a whole with your dvigunami.
          3. +3
            11 October 2018 18: 50
            novel 777, from this conclusion that the United States considers you not to be a brother, but a very distant cousin, at best ...
            1. +4
              11 October 2018 19: 01
              Everything in the USA is partners, not relatives. Who is the partner from below, who is the partner from behind, and so on from the pictures from the Kama Sutra.
          4. +2
            11 October 2018 19: 07
            Quote: Roman777
            Once they created a plane, and their brother stopped supplying spare parts to the already existing ones from Amertkan. I had to refuse to let in a series

            then it's not brother
          5. +5
            11 October 2018 19: 26
            Quote: Roman777
            Big brother does not allow.
            Once they created a plane, and their brother stopped supplying spare parts to the already existing ones from Amertkan. I had to refuse to let in a series

            Do not dissemble, you have too little territory there .. Take off and immediately land))))
            Buy (take it for debts ..))) from the United States an aircraft carrier, there is room, you can bomb around the world .. anti-Semites .. wassat (joke)))
            I have a map of the world, and so Syria is visible, but Israel in general is one point in Tel Aviv, but the bold point over the entire territory and even other countries captures ..))) Funny !!!!
          6. +4
            11 October 2018 19: 28
            So you have not a brother, but a master. He will forbid, and you will not do anything.
          7. +1
            11 October 2018 20: 06
            What about democracy? Independence? Ahh .. I understand this is a fairy tale for third countries laughing
          8. +2
            11 October 2018 20: 14
            Quote: Roman777
            Big brother does not allow.
            Once they created a plane, and their brother stopped supplying spare parts to the already existing ones from Amertkan. I had to refuse to let in a series
            https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Lavi

            You have good brothers good only business, nothing personal.
        2. +3
          11 October 2018 19: 54
          Quote: Zubr
          hi
          Why does Israel not want to create its own fighters? You have such minds, because you have an excellent defense industry. That only is "Iron Dome" and armored vehicles. Acquiring an almost flightable model is very unlike you.

          This is the sweet word "freebie" laughing
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      3. +2
        11 October 2018 18: 38
        Shahno-yes, you spit on these prohibitions-all f35 in the air, and on the C300 to attack lol , planes you need us - for your money, of course, then it will stick, instead of shot down, or close the project lol
      4. +9
        11 October 2018 18: 45

        and saliva was from Israeli colleagues laughing and the best and finally all of you kirdyk now (not a quote, but the meaning is this)
        the exceptional ones will still recall everything delivered for revision .... for the money of customers
        the conclusion is simple - you can’t fight with it yet
        and when it will be possible - is unknown
        1. -3
          11 October 2018 20: 01
          approx 2 g ago, I wrote-- while they wash the loot. the time will come bring f35.
          the owners of the United States leadership will not allow the loss of dominance over the world - they will, and ut, will dry all those who did not give the result to the mountain.
          for that and the Masters.
          NOW ONLY AND THE ARMS RACE BEGINS AND !! CONFRONTATION !!!! IN THE AIR (we returned to the ring after the "approval" of a desert storm, etc.)
          SBIvanov at the revival of the Army approx in 2005 said - "on the wings ..., high-precision ..., air defense and tracking" "network-centric ..."
          Sanctions from 400 - a sign of seriousness of the situation for the master of the world == will not regret “partners”
          GLONAS started and Che with us?
          this race will MUST break out into space.
          and this is subsidies for kindergartens and roads + with medicines and minimum wage

          still ahead --- life and victory in TrMV
          1. +2
            11 October 2018 20: 28
            Quote: antivirus
            and this is subsidies for kindergartens and roads + with medicines and minimum wage

            Give everything to pensioners! I SAID!
      5. 0
        11 October 2018 18: 53
        Quote: Shahno
        Spreads..

        This is what haste and stupidity lead to ... to rivet "raw" vehicles, distribute to the allies, while talking about military trials ... and then stop it all. At the same time, imagine that the war has begun and what? Lightinigs will break before reaching the enemy.
        1. +4
          11 October 2018 19: 05
          Quote: NEXUS
          This is what haste and stupidity lead to ... to rivet "raw" vehicles, distribute to the allies, while talking about military trials ... and then stop it all. At the same time, imagine that the war has begun and what? Lightinigs will break before reaching the enemy.

          Hey. No one is safe from mistakes, and they will have enough planes even without this series, not counting the allies. For example, I am interested in how quickly they will solve this problem, then it will already be possible to draw some conclusions.
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          2. 0
            12 October 2018 04: 51
            Quote: Pirogov
            and they have enough planes even without this series, not counting the allies

            Please list. And then the coast guard has nothing to fly on.
            You forgot that in the USA there are three (three !!) independent governments, not counting state governments. And the complete absence of the state arms sector. They killed themselves.
            In such conditions, it is not profitable to produce something cheap and technological. There are still outbursts of patriotism, but lobbyists are still successfully choking. Will these "flashes" continue? - if the only one who was declared “for” a Russian spy and a negative person?
            1. 0
              12 October 2018 17: 33
              Quote: sogdy
              Please list. And then the coast guard has nothing to fly on.

              Yes, enough aircraft carriers alone to calculate how many fighters are on each, and of these, let 70% of the equipment ready to fight, and that’s impressive.
              Quote: sogdy
              You forgot that in the USA there are three (three !!) independent governments, not counting state governments. And the complete absence of the state arms sector. They killed themselves.
              In such conditions, it is not profitable to produce something cheap and technological. There are still outbursts of patriotism, but lobbyists are still successfully choking. Will these "flashes" continue? - if the only one who was declared “for” a Russian spy and a negative person?

              These problems do not prevent them, as it were for us, and it was not sad to dominate the world. They have a manual UN, NATO and many other smaller organizations and most importantly, the main printing press, so that we would have their problems, something like that ...........
              1. 0
                16 October 2018 14: 55
                Quote: Pirogov
                Yes, enough aircraft carriers alone to calculate how many fighters are on each, and of these, let 70% of the equipment ready to fight, and that’s impressive.

                Wildly sorry, did you read the question?
                The aircraft carriers are subordinate to the deployment forces - and will never be used near the United States, unless the government collapses and there is a commander who, by shooting, puts this entire gopu under arms.
                Alas, these half-citizens are not subject to the forces of self-defense.
                Quote: Pirogov
                These problems do not prevent them, as it were for us, and it was not sad to dominate the world.

                Strange, but we, China, India are not interfered with either. To individual "businessmen" - yes, but not to states.
        2. +5
          11 October 2018 20: 33
          Quote: NEXUS


          and what is the dampness? In the fact that after the fall they decided for 24-48 hours to check the fuel line of the cars?
          Breakdown / marriage of which led to the fall?
          so F-35s now fly on the ocean for 5-10 hours without landing, and there’s nothing to fly.
          1. -1
            12 October 2018 04: 52
            Quote: iwind
            and there’s nothing to fly.

            But how will it be in Russian? I do not ask for facts; you do not have them.
            1. +1
              12 October 2018 12: 47
              Quote: sogdy
              But how will it be in Russian? I don’t ask for facts, you don’t have them

              Flight from USA to Australia 15000 km

              On August 3, 2018, the second batch of five Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II multi-role fighters arrived at the British air force base Markham (Norfolk County), making a non-stop 6600-km flight from the US Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort in South Carolina)

              The first of three AM-11, AM-12 and AM-13 aircraft (serial numbers 5205, 5206 and 5207) took off from the Lockheed Martin factory airfield in Fort Worth (Texas) at 04.26 local time (13.26 Moscow time), the last - at 04.30 (13.30 Moscow time).

              Aircraft landed on AvB Erland at 20.50 Norwegian time (22.50 Moscow time). Thus, in total, a flight across the Atlantic with either six or seven refueling took 9 hours 24 minutes
              1. 0
                12 October 2018 13: 31
                You still amaze me. And what did "climatic zones, gusty wind" rub for so long?
                I do not know about flights. Only about delivery with a long delay.
                1. 0
                  12 October 2018 14: 39
                  Quote: sogdy
                  You still amaze me. And what did "climatic zones, gusty wind" rub for so long?

                  I don’t know what and who was talking about.
                  .
                  Quote: sogdy
                  I do not know about flights. Delayed Delivery Only

                  These flights already.
                  For a day?
                  1. 0
                    12 October 2018 14: 56
                    So I understand:
                    Minister picks up the phone
                    Air Marshal, already smoking, commands, even indecent pretexts
                    The okrug (okrug !!) TAKES OFF (logistics! - stocks, supplies, replacements, refueling, home, children, belongings, cattle) and, with one refueling across the country with freaks, is accepted (all with all property and contentment) diagonally.
                    And so three times. (And apparently still back?)
                    Exaggerate, of course.

                    What are you talking about? About "flights" existing in very unreliable publications? Moreover, and "purely isolated"?

                    The topic is missing.
                    1. 0
                      12 October 2018 15: 23
                      Quote: sogdy
                      So I understand:
                      Minister picks up the phone
                      Air Marshal, already smoking, commands, even indecent pretexts
                      The okrug (okrug !!) TAKES OFF (logistics! - stocks, supplies, replacements, refueling, home, children, belongings, cattle) and, with one refueling across the country with freaks, is accepted (all with all property and contentment) diagonally.
                      And so three times. (And apparently still back?)
                      Exaggerate, of course.

                      ?????
                      Quote: sogdy
                      What are you talking about? About "flights" existing in very unreliable publications? Moreover, and "purely isolated"?

                      Not single. This is what immediately

                      In Australia

                      In South Korea

                      In Holland

                      In Belgium


                      In Japan

                      In England

                      In Bulgaria


                      Israel
                      https://youtu.be/fCeyXgirnw4
          2. -1
            12 October 2018 06: 10
            so am I about the same! and we have machines that have already been worked out and built oh how long before fu35 they closed flights much longer after some crashes .. according to NEXUS it turns out if they have haste and stupidity then we just collected idiots from all over the country who have been sitting for decades in their crazy hospitals under the names of KB Mikayan and Sukhov and then how they will give out a portion of idiocy laughing
        3. 0
          12 October 2018 05: 56
          yes, yes, I remember we fell for the moment 31 created and built in the USSR, but flights also stopped in Russia and Kazakhstan ... you also then uttered this exhaust of yours - This is what haste and stupidity lead to ... rivet "raw" cars,
      6. +2
        11 October 2018 20: 12
        Quote: Shahno
        Spreads..

        But what about the strike on the S-300 ??? Delayed?
        Or maybe this military trick wink
        1. -3
          12 October 2018 06: 13
          don’t croak, then watch then you’ll bite your elbows when you see the c300
      7. 0
        11 October 2018 20: 27
        Quote: Shahno
        Spreads..

        Are you subordinate to the American command? Although ... whom I ask ... lol
    2. +2
      11 October 2018 19: 12
      With the advent of 300 in Syria, they have already begun laughing
    3. +2
      11 October 2018 21: 06
      This is the most interesting. They threatened to destroy the S-300 using them. And then a ban.
    4. +6
      12 October 2018 01: 24
      Comrades, more news: Hurricane Chepiga destroyed the US Air Force base in Florida, https://youtu.be/plUGQqJROJI) youtu.be/plUGQqJROJI


  2. +11
    11 October 2018 18: 24
    It remains only to add a quote from the source:
    "The inspections are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours."

    "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi
    1. +3
      11 October 2018 18: 35
      Quote: A. Privalov
      It remains only to add a quote from the source:
      "The inspections are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours."

      "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi
      I would add:
      If known good fuel tubes are already installed, then those aircraft will be returned to flight status.
      If the correct fuel pipes are already installed, then these aircraft will be returned to flying status.
      hi
      1. 0
        11 October 2018 21: 32
        Quote: Timtam
        If the correct fuel pipes are already installed,

        They are already unable to produce normal fuel pipes? I'm shocked.
        1. -4
          12 October 2018 06: 28
          Yes, imagine the fifth generation aircraft have already riveted hundreds of three for their air force and are already selling them and they can’t make the right pipes .. The question naturally arises: can’t we make the right one if the Su57 is essentially not yet? and yes engines, missiles, decent radar and even the visibility of the su57 does not reach the fifth generation .. but this is all nonsense for that to patriots like you know for sure that we have the right pipes .. you were told about this by KiselTV and REN.TV
    2. +6
      11 October 2018 18: 38
      Quote: A. Privalov
      "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi

      You do not confuse with dates dear?
      which crashed 28 this September
      1. +5
        11 October 2018 18: 44
        Quote: Don Quixote
        0
        Quote: A. Privalov
        "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi

        You do not confuse with dates dear?
        which crashed 28 this September

        There is no contradiction, the plane crashed on September 28 and the checks will end in a day, two, that is, October 12-13.
        1. +2
          11 October 2018 19: 31
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Quote: Don Quixote
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi

          You do not confuse with dates dear?
          which crashed 28 this September

          There is no contradiction, the plane crashed on September 28 and the checks will end in a day, two, that is, October 12-13.

          Something I did not understand .. Day 24 hours-1 day ... This is 10-15 days! You are there in Israel, from our C-300 in general have gone crazy in reality and in time .. ??? fool
          1. +2
            11 October 2018 20: 54
            Quote: Don Quixote
            Are you in Israel that, from our S-300s, you are completely crazy in reality and timing .. ???

            Where in Luxenburg S-300? When did Israel change flag?
    3. +3
      11 October 2018 18: 39
      Halt - and then another 48 watch will extend the check ...
    4. +4
      11 October 2018 18: 59
      Quote: A. Privalov
      "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours."

      24-48 hours, apparently, to check one aircraft, because two weeks have passed since the accident, and the checks are not completed.
      1. 0
        11 October 2018 20: 32
        from the moment of identifying the cause of the accident?
        1. +2
          11 October 2018 21: 20
          Quote: antivirus
          from the moment of identifying the cause of the accident?

          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: A. Privalov
          "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours."

          24-48 hours, apparently, to check one aircraft, because two weeks have passed since the accident, and the checks are not completed.

          Quote: ANCIENT
          Halt - and then another 48 watch will extend the check ...

          Quote: Don Quixote
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Quote: Don Quixote
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi

          You do not confuse with dates dear?
          which crashed 28 this September

          There is no contradiction, the plane crashed on September 28 and the checks will end in a day, two, that is, October 12-13.

          Something I did not understand .. Day 24 hours-1 day ... This is 10-15 days! You are there in Israel, from our C-300 in general have gone crazy in reality and in time .. ??? fool

          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Quote: Don Quixote
          0
          Quote: A. Privalov
          "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi

          You do not confuse with dates dear?
          which crashed 28 this September

          There is no contradiction, the plane crashed on September 28 and the checks will end in a day, two, that is, October 12-13.

          Quote: Don Quixote
          Quote: A. Privalov
          "The checks are expected to be completed within the next 24 to 48 hours." hi

          You do not confuse with dates dear?
          which crashed 28 this September

          For everyone to not get up twice.
          There is no contradiction, the plane crashed on September 28, and checks will begin only now. They will continue, as already mentioned, for about two days.
          It only remains to add that however, the nearest delivery - the 91 unit (to the already released 320) will be completed by Lockheed Martin on time. hi
          1. 0
            12 October 2018 05: 07
            Quote: A. Privalov
            There is no contradiction, the plane crashed on September 28, and checks will begin only now. They will continue, as already mentioned, for about two days.

            Mdaaa. According to the order, stop for one or two (September 28.09 from the moment of the accident) and wait for the inspectors. Inspectors for _every_ aircraft will need - in total! - 24-48 hours. And there are few inspectors ... however, this is not specified, it is a fact.

            Well, something to wave your saber ?!
  3. -3
    11 October 2018 18: 25
    The destruction of the Syrian S-300 is being debugged. Hezbollah needs to seize the moment.
    1. +5
      11 October 2018 18: 39
      The destruction of the Israeli F-35 is also postponed.
      1. +2
        11 October 2018 18: 52
        Quote: Sergey39
        The destruction of the Israeli F-35 is also postponed.

        So everyone will be alive.
  4. +2
    11 October 2018 18: 27
    But wasn’t this at the request of Jewish comrades such a ban, and Netanyahu and Liberman talked about the destruction of the S-300, but there were no kamikaze?
  5. BVS
    +7
    11 October 2018 18: 29
    Standard procedure for the air forces of all countries.
    1. +13
      11 October 2018 18: 50
      A little bit wrong ... After the loss of the plane, all flights on this type were immediately suspended until the reasons were clarified (or until the next telegram). And here they waited two weeks (I guess during this time, I found out that the reason was fuel automation, and not an error in piloting technique ...), but the strange behavior of the Americans ... If this is a constructive flaw, then so many pilots in two weeks could run into the same repetition ....
      Or this malfunction "climbs" with a certain raid on the engine ...
      1. +2
        11 October 2018 19: 05
        And you are curious ... It's just that the procedures are different. We have our own "teken", which defines "thum", such as an area of ​​responsibility, and this is not two days.
      2. +2
        11 October 2018 19: 20
        NN52, I waited, but did not see your opinion in the topics about the IL-20.
        The thoughts of a specialist are simply interesting.
        1. -6
          11 October 2018 21: 58
          Quote: Carpenter 2329
          NN52, I waited, but did not see your opinion in the topics about the IL-20.
          The thoughts of a specialist are simply interesting.

          laughing he is an expert in only one thing - a secret conspiracy of sectarians .....
          1. +11
            11 October 2018 22: 07
            Sandor Kligan (Danila Dmitrievich)

            The order does not give rest? Danila?
            Yes, I'm in the Order.
            Where are you?
            1. +5
              11 October 2018 22: 35
              oh, I would rhyme ...
              1. +5
                12 October 2018 04: 57
                oh, I would rhyme ...
                Hussars, silently-ah-ah!
            2. +8
              12 October 2018 03: 38
              Quote: NN52
              Sandor Kligan (Danila Dmitrievich)

              The order does not give rest? Danila?
              Yes, I'm in the Order.
              Where are you?

              And he is in a medal or badge, as they say a small bug. laughing He’s kind of restless, even I can see from the outside, decided not to pass by hi
            3. -3
              12 October 2018 08: 46
              Quote: NN52
              Where are you?

              and I'm in my place - and this is definitely not a crazy sect
              Quote: NN52
              The order does not give rest?

              rest does not give all the abomination, stupidity and the vile lies of underground workers in relation to members of the forum
              1. +3
                12 October 2018 11: 28
                Quote: Sandor Clegane
                Quote: NN52
                Where are you?

                and I'm in my place - and this is definitely not a crazy sect
                Quote: NN52
                The order does not give rest?

                rest does not give all the abomination, stupidity and the vile lies of underground workers in relation to members of the forum

                Well, you don’t particularly cock here, they betrayed their homeland, it seems to me that if they press you in the forefront it will be difficult to find. hi
                1. -1
                  12 October 2018 15: 34
                  Quote: Not bad
                  Well, you don’t particularly cock here, they betrayed their homeland, it seems to me that if they press you in the forefront it will be difficult to find.

                  judging by the comments, you judge people by yourself and do not be rude - do not
                  1. +1
                    12 October 2018 16: 40
                    Quote: Sandor Clegane
                    Quote: Not bad
                    Well, you don’t particularly cock here, they betrayed their homeland, it seems to me that if they press you in the forefront it will be difficult to find.

                    judging by the comments, you judge people by yourself and do not be rude - do not

                    Your type is painfully familiar to me, I have nothing to add, be healthy. hi
          2. +8
            11 October 2018 22: 42
            Kligan, I somehow parallel, who is where - in this case.
            Not "who are you", but "what are you".
            1. +9
              11 October 2018 22: 47
              Basil hi "get to know them by business ..."
              1. +6
                11 October 2018 22: 51
                Roman, I mean the same thing.
                hi
                1. +8
                  11 October 2018 22: 54
                  if that - I'm also in the order ....
                  1. +8
                    12 October 2018 00: 21
                    Do not forget me.
                  2. 0
                    12 October 2018 17: 57
                    And what, sorry, for the order?
                    what
            2. -4
              12 October 2018 08: 50
              Quote: Carpenter 2329
              +6
              Kligan, I somehow parallel, who is where - in this case.
              Not "who are you", but "what are you".

              that is, the person who insulted you and set this goal, but at the same time the master of golden hands - will be your authority ???
              1. 0
                12 October 2018 17: 56
                I asked my question to a person. I respect his opinion in matters of modern aviation. I did not see any insults against him.
                So what is the essence of your question?
          3. +6
            12 October 2018 00: 20
            So the topic seems to be for aviation. No? Or are the Masons around?
          4. +5
            12 October 2018 01: 27
            Did you sleep? Yeah don't worry so
            Quote: Sandor Clegane
            he is an expert in only one ...

            What they taught, that and the specialist, well by the way taught. They didn’t take everyone there by the way, it was necessary not only to get up from the couch ..
            1. +7
              12 October 2018 03: 44
              Speaking of birds, without you, the order, it was somehow quiet here, as in the farthest quarter. smile
              1. -1
                13 October 2018 08: 58
                Quote: Not bad
                Speaking of birds, without you, order

                But what have you forgotten yourself? Registered May 2, 2018 19:30 is how to bend to hang a star? ... the order shook you, and you seem to be an adherent of the order .... they pressed the top, so the last ones continue their vile business
  6. +2
    11 October 2018 18: 32
    The driver will restart and fly :) The cockpit's Windows fell into the trash and the cart flew like an iron ...
    1. 0
      12 October 2018 05: 16
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      The cockpit's Windows fell into the trash and the cart flew like an iron ...

      Cho-something "Hey-Ai" Vartanov comes to mind ... about self-updating Windows on a helicopter.
  7. 0
    11 October 2018 18: 35
    song dedicated to f35 wassat - `` you are unreliable as ice in spring '' .. wassat
    1. -1
      11 October 2018 20: 34
      "ice of our hope"
  8. +3
    11 October 2018 19: 05
    It looks like "more gold is needed"
  9. +2
    11 October 2018 19: 18
    It is not true! You are all lying! Here Jews told us that the F-35 is the best and that it will soon bomb all S-300 in Syria, as well as all of Hezbollah, Iran and all these vile Arabs! laughing
    1. -2
      11 October 2018 19: 27
      Do you really doubt what you can bomb? "The detachment did not notice the loss of a soldier," after all, more than 350 of them have already been riveted.
      Russian su27 and mig29 also fall periodically, are they also trash?
      And as before, aviation fought, it's just fire ... and nothing, they are in no hurry to call the old equipment bad.
  10. +4
    11 October 2018 19: 21
    2 f35 have already burned down, and back in 2016 they complained about Chinese clamps on the fuel line, which are frayed ... another 2 years passed, the problem was still not fixed, it crashed due to one plane.
    I wonder who will be punished for negligence?
    1. -1
      11 October 2018 20: 35
      I wonder who will be punished for negligence?

      -batogist Rogozin
  11. 0
    11 October 2018 19: 23
    Well, the countries that will later acquire the F-35 are lucky, since there will be more exploitation in different countries and climatic conditions.
  12. +3
    11 October 2018 19: 36
    Are flights suspended again? It seems that this stuff flies once a week, and all the rest of the time "flights are suspended", since it cannot take off, a piece of penguin
  13. +4
    11 October 2018 19: 37
    What do we really know? A catastrophe occurred, if the failure is correctly determined, eliminated .... this or the like will happen again and again! The technique is new, is it okay to say that this is basically a flaw? Sales if they don’t say, we’ll understand, anyway, with time.
    That sho praise him without measure .... so the frog praises his swamp, too, but it be-eee!
    1. +1
      11 October 2018 21: 21
      That's always the case, as soon as Russia got angry and delivered the S-300 systems to Syria (with the automation of a single control) The USA and Israel immediately had problems with the Fu-35 and supposedly, again, wait for the Russians, etc. )))
      Give us someone to bring down the Padla !!!!! Russians in Syria are terribly evil and will bring down all for our dead ..
      Faster repair and take off what you want devil-hit. negative Zhdems!
      1. +5
        11 October 2018 22: 38
        Life is not a computer shooter, by mouse movement. nothing clicks on click!
        There will be nothing superfluous, strong "players" will agree, and no one will ask others.
        This is how politics is done, and the military there do not steer, follow orders!
    2. +6
      11 October 2018 22: 37
      the kindest! hi surrenders, in a hurry a little, under-tested, will happen again ...
      1. +3
        11 October 2018 23: 33
        Good evening soldier in a hurry on time and cost squeezed for an early result.
        The plane is a clear imperfection and what will happen to it next ... we'll see.
        The idea itself is cool and fits into their concept of a swift, crushing attack, but !!!
        But this BUT may well be insurmountable stat!
        And so it happens!
  14. -2
    11 October 2018 20: 07
    Quickly worked!
  15. 0
    11 October 2018 21: 09
    Quote: GibSoN
    It is also interesting that the "Syrian" S-300 and S-400 from our bases are likely to work in the same network.
    After the incident with the Il-20, it is not interesting at all. In two words, the S-2 showed all its "power", having blinded the air situation around itself and letting a similar situation actually happen under its nose, next to the base. Well, or the second option .. The stars light up ...


    I didn’t slap it - C - 400. Slap the people who control it.
  16. +1
    11 October 2018 21: 29

    Yeah, let's sell them more to Israel.
  17. +3
    11 October 2018 22: 47
    Quote: stock buildbat
    Are flights suspended again? It seems that this stuff flies once a week, and all the rest of the time "flights are suspended", since it cannot take off, a piece of penguin

    That is how it is. Sane people, in my opinion, should have understood for a long time that the F-35, although it flies, is so-so-shitty. The Israelis understand this, but never admit it. And how much more money and time will be spent on tuning the penguin to mind - from the history of mysteries.
    1. 0
      11 October 2018 23: 37
      It used to be that complex equipment was never brought to mind!
      True, in such cases, the sale to the side, in general the case is unique!
      1. 0
        12 October 2018 03: 59
        Bullshit, many eminent car-making companies, due to malfunctions, grow thousands of cars for corrections ...
        1. +1
          12 October 2018 08: 33
          An airplane is not a car, it just cannot be delivered from heaven to investigate a breakdown, but the fact that the Americans at one time did not produce aircraft of generation 4 and 3 now affects these breakdowns. And in general, the path that they decided to choose for the development of aviation is error. If they try to "hide their planes in the sky, then the flight range of a rocket launched from this plane cannot be infinite," but in order to do this, you also need to reduce this distance, but you saw where these planes have A refueling element? Behind the cockpit. Now the question arises: "From what date of the month they steal the Russian-made refueling technology from the patent office", they cannot develop it themselves, but for the safety of their country, they will stop at nothing ...
          1. 0
            12 October 2018 09: 54
            Quote: alta
            due to malfunctions, thousands of cars are returned for corrections

            It is clear that they are finalizing, correcting ... but it is not for nothing that such a long chain of tests and certification is provided for aviation technology! If it is not so, then there is nothing left to consider, analyze .... that’s what it is.
            Quote: Former gas worker
            A plane is not a car; it’s just not possible to deliver it from heaven for a breakdown

            Quote: Former gas worker
            Anyway, the path that they decided to choose for the development of aviation is an error

            To say that the whole experiment with F 35 will be a dummy is premature.
            Even if not weight, but only some systems, design solutions will be in demand, effective, this is also a significant result! Many new, interesting things are applied in it.
            Let's wait, see .... time will tell what for what!
  18. +2
    11 October 2018 23: 43
    laughing out loud))) laughing how can I buy something that dosihpor does not work normally forever malfunctions bans it has not even passed the test and has already sucked in many)))
  19. -3
    12 October 2018 00: 28
    how much gloating and unfounded conclusions, they say trash, won the Union crashed, there will be gloating?
    1. 0
      12 October 2018 08: 17
      You don’t have any unions, but you don’t have any ambitions, and they won’t bring anything to good. You’ll be a crest to a Polish pan, a popecie lick, because the West will not give you more.
  20. +2
    12 October 2018 02: 38
    They inhaled an expensive contraption to the Allies, and now they are forbidden to use it. Scam combo level laughing
  21. -3
    12 October 2018 03: 55
    Quote: Sentence
    Here Jews told us that the F-35 is the best and that it will soon bomb all S-300 in Syria, as well as all of Hezbollah, Iran and all these vile Arabs! laughing

    By the way, the S-300 was developed twice by Hero of Socialist Labor, laureate of the Lenin, Stalin and State Prizes of the USSR L.V. Lyulev, a Jew from Kiev.
    The development of the S-300V was carried out by the Novator Design Bureau, headed by Lyulyev, in cooperation with the Antei research and production association.
    1. +2
      12 October 2018 05: 30
      Quote: alta
      Jew from Kiev.

      Well, yes, kaneshna-kaneshna. And Sverdlovsk has nothing to do with it, and Antey is superfluous there. But Magadan is so completely side.
      Most importantly, do not cry. Start jumping - put on a pan so as not to knock.
  22. +2
    12 October 2018 04: 37
    Spread out, breathed in half the world. and it turns out he can’t fly — all in Amerovsky. money and nothing personal.
  23. +2
    12 October 2018 05: 02
    Fuel system ? Probably KE JETRONIC (dispenser) was clogged with low-quality fuel)))) let them carry F35 in our Almaty to serve 15 tenge repair of the dispenser.
  24. 0
    12 October 2018 08: 10
    but ... after all, they pushed him everywhere, saying that he is now "the best" ...
  25. 0
    12 October 2018 08: 13
    A question to American aircraft designers: “Why did you release an airplane without having carried out a full range of tests? Moreover, you are selling the model to foreign countries?” And if, recently, many innovations concerning modern products are being tested on us for garlic.
  26. 0
    12 October 2018 10: 33
    No luck with this plane.
    Andrei Nikolaevich Tupolev was right - an ugly plane cannot fly normally.
    And the F-35 is ugly in many respects, starting with its appearance and ending with incomprehensible ones for classifying it as the 5th generation of TTX, when it is not quite as good as 4 +.
  27. 0
    12 October 2018 14: 16
    The ban was to excuse himself. It is infa that a link of Israeli F-35s has already been escorted to three hundred units delivered to Syria, realizing that they were found, they turned around. But the ban on flights means everyone will argue that the S-300 was not seen "stealth" at all.
    1. 0
      13 October 2018 04: 59
      And from what news agency "OBS-News" "comes" this epic-"infa" ?? bully bully
  28. 0
    13 October 2018 04: 57
    Eka is unseen. Common "childhood illnesses". Correct - no big deal.
    PS There are so many kaments, as if at least a full squadron of these "Lightning-2" was "overwhelmed" in battle ... bully bully

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