Military Review

Mr. Bastrykin, we refute and apologize!

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According to the decision of the Zavodskoy District Court of Grozny from 28 June 2016 of the year in case No.2 — 322 / 2016, which recognized the publication “Justified for Undue Crime” by false information defaming the honor, dignity and reputation of the plaintiff, we execute this court decision.




So, we apologize and refute.

What we deny and for which we apologize is a separate conversation, since we had no idea that we were appealed against by citizen Igor Alexandrovich Sobol against us.

In violation of all legal norms, court sessions were held without notifying the respondent, without providing the opportunity to get acquainted with the case materials, without the right to defense.

Therefore, being completely unaware of what was incriminated to the site, but by accepting the decision of the court, we are committing these actions.



1. Unfortunately, according to the requirements of the first paragraph, we cannot place the refutation in full of the information set forth in the publication “Justified for Undue Crime”, because this material is not available on the website, and we have not been provided with the certified screenshots confirming its placement. Not even the page address, just the title.

Accordingly, the we refute everythingwhat was written in the material, the fact of the publication of which causes us to doubt.

2. Regarding the requirement to remove this material. See above: there is no evidence that the material was published at all.

3. The “Military Review” website with great pleasure brings its apologies to Colonel-General of Justice B. M. Karnaukhov and Colonel of Justice Sobol I. A.

4. We publish the text of the court decision in accordance with the requirements and are hereby brought to the notice of the Chairman of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation, Colonel-General A. I. Bastrykin and the UK Main Department for the North Caucasus District on the execution of the court decision and its publication.

There are no articles on the site, and it’s not a fact that it was at all, but this is probably the case when there is no court.

But next time it would be nice to still comply with all the laws of the country, including the requirements of the judiciary. In any case, we have always stood and will stand on the side of the law.
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  1. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 12 October 2018 05: 40
    0
    Those. this publication was not?)))) for this calculation?)
    1. 210ox
      210ox 12 October 2018 06: 29
      +8
      Well, for the publication .. Which was not. belay
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 12 October 2018 07: 53
        +9
        Quote: 210ox
        Well, for the publication .. Which was not. belay

        Does it seem strange to you? It can be at the household level. Literally with every person. In our family --- it was similar. They sued.
        Just like in the proverb ----- No fault ----- guilty.
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 12 October 2018 08: 47
          +9
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Does this seem strange to you?

          There are many oddities:

          1. Article-subject of the court .... no belay recourse
          2. The court decision was made in 2016, it got to Moscow .... in 2018 Mr. request

          I can protest, I think
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 12 October 2018 09: 05
            +8
            Ah ha ha ... IN put on sight ... For no reason, but set ... wassat Although someone already sees the reason - administrators have to think about it, it’s not an hour and the administrators will have to go to court ... I won’t be surprised if a couple of comrades are brought to trial, and some have already done a lot ... bully
            In short, the clever will understand, but they will make the stupid understand ... laughing
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 12 October 2018 21: 24
              -1
              Yeah.
              Apologized, so apologized ... good
          2. NEOZ
            NEOZ 12 October 2018 09: 32
            +5
            Quote: Olgovich
            1. Article-subject of the court .... no

            and if there was?
            just deleted it now.
            1. Vend
              Vend 12 October 2018 09: 39
              +6
              Quote: NEOZ
              Quote: Olgovich
              1. Article-subject of the court .... no

              and if there was?
              just deleted it now.

              A digital footprint will always remain.
              1. jjj
                jjj 12 October 2018 15: 08
                +3
                In this process, the burden of proof lies with the defendant. The courts in the Russian Federation do not establish the truth, they evaluate the evidence of the parties and issue a verdict. Notices to the court, I believe, were sent by Russian Post. The mail sent a notice to the court that the addressee did not come to receive the notification. It is believed that the defendant was appropriately notified of the process. The court, by law, could make a decision
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 12 October 2018 21: 43
                  +8
                  Quote: jjj
                  The mail sent a notice to the court that the addressee did not come to receive the notification.

                  I would believe you if I had not encountered the fact that after a few years I accidentally found out that my car was seized - this was discovered when another person passed the inspection. It turned out without me, the court made a decision on my joint responsibility for the rent payment, which I could not do, since it arose after I had been discharged from the apartment a long time ago and lived in another place. In general, I had to run around, and it turned out that the Housing Office filed a lawsuit against defaulters, and on one side of the document presented by him I was listed in the defendants, and on the back of the sheet there was a note that I was written out two years before the debt was formed, when there was no debt It was, that is, the negligence of the judge is evident. In general, the judge himself canceled the court’s decision, but still I had to run a couple of months until I delivered the decision myself to the bailiffs, and then I returned their refusal to the traffic police. And all this was in Moscow, by the way.
                  So what happened with this court decision does not surprise me. It is surprising why the owners of VO surrendered so easily, if there really was no such article and there is an opportunity to appeal the court decision at the place of residence.
                  1. ver_
                    ver_ 13 October 2018 11: 45
                    +2
                    ... a soap judge ..
                    1. ccsr
                      ccsr 13 October 2018 16: 01
                      +4
                      Quote: ver_
                      ... a soap judge ..

                      Rather, her secretary, who stamped such court decisions, and the judge signed them without reading them. In general, if this happens in Moscow, what can we say about grammatical errors in documents from Grozny.
                    2. mole
                      mole 13 October 2018 16: 19
                      +1
                      Quote: ver_
                      ... a soap judge ..
                      or wink "... no soap"?
                      Most likely, someone was underworked somewhere.
                    3. Vdars
                      Vdars 17 October 2018 16: 15
                      0
                      Would anyone need THIS soap ?! And who will use THIS soap from the judge ?!
                2. naidas
                  naidas 13 October 2018 16: 44
                  +5
                  Article 28 Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation. Filing a lawsuit at the place of residence or location of the defendant
                  The lawsuit is brought to court at the place of residence of the defendant. A lawsuit against the organization is brought to court at the location of the organization.
                  And then admits being in Moscow, and the court in Grozny.
                  It is possible to make an advertisement by taking out the brain of the Grozny court, or it is possible to mock, as they did.
                3. kitt409
                  kitt409 14 October 2018 09: 52
                  +1
                  Notices were sent to the court by mail? They are, in fact, as if at first the defendant should have been sent. And only then to the court, and it is precisely here that the gap often occurs when the court sends almost the next day after the meeting, and the mail pretends to be a hedgehog and pretends that they sent it to the defendant ...
            2. Yura
              Yura 13 October 2018 09: 06
              +5
              Quote: NEOZ
              and if there was?
              just deleted it now.

              When submitting the article to the court, the plaintiff had to provide not a virtual article hanging in the air, but a document on paper, moreover, confirmed, with the date of printing, with the name of the author, with the address of the site and the mailbox of contacts, always with screenshots, screenshot with page scroll with the whole article, accompanied by comments, would serve as an excellent document, in this case if the article had been, it would not have been possible to get out.
          3. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 12 October 2018 09: 35
            0
            Quote: Olgovich

            1. Article-subject of the court .... no belay recourse
            2. The court decision was made in 2016, it got to Moscow .... in 2018 Mr. request
            I can protest, I think
            This is not entirely true. After 2 years, it’s somehow different ....
        2. neri73-r
          neri73-r 12 October 2018 10: 27
          +5
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Quote: 210ox
          Well, for the publication .. Which was not. belay

          Does it seem strange to you? It can be at the household level. Literally with every person. In our family --- it was similar. They sued.
          Just like in the proverb ----- No fault ----- guilty.

          And the Investigative Committee is always like that, there are few normal people! They work worse than the police and do not see people for statistics.
          1. jjj
            jjj 13 October 2018 12: 59
            +7
            Today I re-read the text of the documents in the photographs. I was confused by some points, but maybe, in old age, I lagged behind the course of life.
            1. The court decided to refute the entire publication. But, in theory, there should be specified specific information discrediting the honor of the plaintiffs, which are subject to refutation. Or do the names and surnames of the characters also need to be refuted?
            2. An incomprehensible sanction is to apologize. An apology is the goodwill of the defendant, which may affect the severity of the sanctions applied to the defendant.
            3. In the substantive part, there is no reference to any normative act or article of the law according to which they are applied.
            4. It is not clear on what basis the defendant should report on the execution of the decision to third parties.
            5. Material sanctions are not indicated, including the amount of reimbursement of legal costs.
            Actually, you might think that this is someone's joke of humor
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 13 October 2018 16: 02
              +2
              Quote: jjj
              Actually, you might think that this is someone's joke of humor

              Owner of the VO site?
          2. mole
            mole 13 October 2018 16: 27
            +2
            Quote: neri73-r
            And the Investigative Committee is always like that, there are few normal people! They work worse than the police and do not see people for statistics.

            Optimization + stick system. We optimized people, but left the stick system. Just like everywhere else. Additionally, "promising managers" were appointed.
  2. BNVSurgut
    BNVSurgut 12 October 2018 05: 42
    +3
    And the title of the article is such that you can find horseradish on the internet.
  3. A good one
    A good one 12 October 2018 05: 44
    +5
    "But next time it would be nice to comply with all the laws of the country, including the requirements of legal proceedings."

    So to be continued? recourse
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 October 2018 06: 15
      +3
      Quote: Not bad
      "But next time it would be nice to comply with all the laws of the country, including the requirements of legal proceedings."

      So to be continued? recourse

      maybe for "moral damage" they will still demand "lam" ... lol
      1. A good one
        A good one 12 October 2018 06: 19
        +10
        hi Yeah, it’s more difficult to fight with acting generals, it’s here with their one left. smile
        1. kitt409
          kitt409 14 October 2018 09: 57
          +1
          So to fight or sue? What ALREADY was listed here, out of inconsistencies and other things, is enough to appeal, but whether it is for us to decide.
      2. neri73-r
        neri73-r 12 October 2018 10: 33
        0
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: Not bad
        "But next time it would be nice to comply with all the laws of the country, including the requirements of legal proceedings."

        So to be continued? recourse

        maybe for "moral damage" they will still demand "lam" ... lol

        Yeah, they’ll award a penny and they will donate these pennies to the orphanage! It is interesting to look at these generals at home, to count, and then let them explain where the money came from, otherwise the deputies who went against the party to dispossess themselves famously!
  4. Vard
    Vard 12 October 2018 06: 08
    +11
    The usual practice of our legal proceedings ... The decision is made without a defendant ... And the most interesting thing is that it is practically impossible to protest ...
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 12 October 2018 09: 33
      +4
      Quote: Vard
      it is practically impossible to protest ...

      apply to the court of higher instance!
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 12 October 2018 10: 30
        +3
        Quote: NEOZ
        Quote: Vard
        it is practically impossible to protest ...

        apply to the court of higher instance!

        Unfortunately, the highest authority is often guided not by the Law, but by expediency! hi
      2. ver_
        ver_ 13 October 2018 11: 48
        +1
        ... so it is possible to reach the Lord God ..
  5. German Titov
    German Titov 12 October 2018 06: 09
    +4
    Strange "self-promotion" from the plaintiff. It looks like he did not get into history, but "got stuck".
  6. igorra
    igorra 12 October 2018 06: 17
    +3
    Humpbacks will only fix the helicopter ...
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  8. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 12 October 2018 06: 26
    -3
    Well, a trial without a defendant is possible if he did not appear at previous meetings. Or stupidly ignored in Russian. More important to me, was there an article or not?))) I remember something about a gang of pedophiles ... and when ...
    1. Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim 12 October 2018 06: 29
      +22
      I receive mail. And I do not remember the call to the court of Grozny (you will not forget this).
      We searched for the article in our database and search engines - we did not find anything.
      1. A good one
        A good one 12 October 2018 06: 41
        +3
        But the court decision is real, and you didn’t try to find where your legs are growing from?
        1. Smirnov Vadim
          Smirnov Vadim 12 October 2018 06: 44
          +8
          What to look for? Plaintiff Colonel of Justice Sobol AND. A.
          The court was still in 2016 year. The ruling we got in this ...
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 12 October 2018 08: 42
            +5
            Quote: Vadim Smirnov
            What to look for? Plaintiff Colonel of Justice Sobol AND. A.
            The court was still in 2016 year. The ruling we got in this ...


            For some reason, I did not find in the resolution the phrase "On your knees, slave, lick your master's boots for edification. And then flog." Did you read it carefully?
          2. ccsr
            ccsr 12 October 2018 21: 51
            +4
            Quote: Vadim Smirnov
            What to look for? Plaintiff Colonel of Justice Sobol AND. A.
            The court was still in 2016 year. The ruling we got in this ...

            This does not play a role - you can request the case file, the article itself must be there, and it must be indicated that the plaintiff has refuted, demanding that this be recognized as untrue. It is strange that you so easily agreed with a court decision if there really was no such article.
      2. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 12 October 2018 06: 41
        -5
        Usually registered letters. Look at the post office database. And the rest ... well, what's the point then to sue a non-existent article?) A person fetishes a public apology?))))
      3. Vasek Trubachek
        Vasek Trubachek 12 October 2018 06: 48
        +7
        But appeal against the decision is not fate? Or are there no lawyers for the site?
      4. Conductor
        Conductor 12 October 2018 09: 02
        +4
        Have you tried to get acquainted with the case materials? There may be a printed article.
      5. NEOZ
        NEOZ 12 October 2018 09: 36
        0
        Quote: Smirnov Vadim
        We searched for an article in our database

        maybe the site made a mistake?
      6. DMoroz
        DMoroz 12 October 2018 10: 20
        +6
        What is the problem. Write a statement to the court to familiarize yourself with the case, and then a trust for familiarization with any user of the site from Grozny, they will raise the case from the archive, he will familiarize himself with the reason for not receiving the notice. After that there will be an opportunity to look at the restoration of the appeal period, etc.
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 12 October 2018 06: 43
    +6
    The court in the city of Grozny ... The Internet is waiting for a sophisticated "aesopization".
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 October 2018 07: 05
      -4
      Quote: samarin1969
      The court in the city of Grozny ... The Internet is waiting for a sophisticated "aesopization".

      In which city you live, you are suing that court. Do not go to Moscow.
      1. Nick_R
        Nick_R 12 October 2018 09: 38
        +4
        The court must be filed at the location of the defendant, unless otherwise provided by contract or law. Maybe this is Kadyrov’s site? )
      2. Rostislav
        Rostislav 12 October 2018 09: 41
        +2
        No. The standard procedure is consideration at the place of the defendant.
        These criminal cases are considered according to the method of committing a crime.
        1. DMoroz
          DMoroz 12 October 2018 10: 24
          +1
          Wrong.
          Section 6.1, Art. 29 Code of Civil Procedure Jurisdiction for the choice of the plaintiff:
          6.1. Claims for the protection of the rights of the subject of personal data, including compensation for losses and (or) compensation for moral harm, may also be brought to court at the place of residence of the plaintiff.
      3. Conductor
        Conductor 12 October 2018 10: 35
        +2
        Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation Article 29. Jurisdiction for the choice of the plaintiff


        1. A lawsuit against a defendant whose place of residence is unknown or which does not have a place of residence in the Russian Federation may be brought to court at the location of his property or at his last known place of residence in the Russian Federation.

        2. A lawsuit against an organization arising from the activities of its branch or representative office may also be brought to court at the location of its branch or representative office. Does the organization have a branch in Grozny?
  10. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 12 October 2018 06: 56
    +12
    We tasted Russian justice.
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 12 October 2018 07: 34
      -18
      99 percent of people with him are fine.
      1. albert
        albert 12 October 2018 17: 48
        +4
        Well, if you consider only officials as people, it’s clear where you got such statistics from. lol
    2. ver_
      ver_ 13 October 2018 11: 51
      +2
      ... has long been known - the law is that drawbar ..
  11. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 12 October 2018 08: 14
    +6
    File an appeal, then cassation, then to the Supreme. If necessary. If there is no fault, then how can one endure, publish notices, etc.?
    1. Rostislav
      Rostislav 12 October 2018 09: 46
      +3
      For appeal, it is 10 days from the date of the decision, the deadlines have passed. Only cassation. You can apply for an extension of the appeal due to the fact that the defendant was not properly notified, but judging by how the proceedings were generally arranged, it makes no sense.
      1. ghby
        ghby 12 October 2018 12: 23
        +1
        Write nonsense. A month appeal on a citizen, the term can be tried to be restored and not extended if the notice was inappropriate.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 12 October 2018 16: 45
          +1
          Absolutely.
          Quote: ghby
          Write nonsense. A month appeal on a citizen, the term can be tried to be restored and not extended if the notice was inappropriate.
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 12 October 2018 21: 58
        +3
        Quote: Rostislav
        +2
        For appeal, it is 10 days from the date of the decision, the deadlines have passed. Only cassation.

        Failure to receive notice of the court may constitute grounds for canceling the decision of the judge on the fact of newly discovered circumstances. So, appeals may not be needed when the judge is presented with evidence of obvious forgery, and he will be completely uninterested in looking like a layman among his colleagues. I myself came across such a solution to the question - the judge herself corrected her mistake after a few years.
  12. Conductor
    Conductor 12 October 2018 08: 16
    +5
    In general, justice is peculiar to us, and even in the south, and in the Caucasus, it is generally unique.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 13 October 2018 10: 11
      0
      Quote: Conductor
      In general, justice is peculiar to us, and even in the south, and in the Caucasus, it is generally unique.

      Here, in my opinion, typical custom-made material, and the refutation of VO will be used for a completely different reason, in their internal dismantling, judging by the materials of the article itself. They will brandish this refutation in order to achieve any benefits, but they will not remember the essence of the refutation itself.
  13. greshnik80
    greshnik80 12 October 2018 08: 22
    +10
    But so many punctuation errors in an official document - is it now considered the norm?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 12 October 2018 08: 27
      +14
      Word doesn’t work, panimaesh? laughing
      1. Rostislav
        Rostislav 12 October 2018 09: 48
        +5
        Word then works, the user is illiterate, does not know how to use. Underline sees, and what to do about it ??? repeat
  14. Conductor
    Conductor 12 October 2018 08: 31
    +3
    Code of Civil Procedure of the Russian Federation Article 113. Judicial notices and challenges


    1. Persons participating in the case, as well as witnesses, experts, specialists and translators, shall be notified or summoned to the court by registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt, a subpoena with acknowledgment of receipt, telephone message or telegram, by fax or using other means of communication and deliveries that ensure the recording of a judicial notice or call and its delivery to the addressee.
    They tried to convince me, like in Krasnodar, that there was a call on my mobile and there was a notice of the need to appear for trial, a request to provide a printout when and from which phone they called me, a refusal, then I provided a printout about calls to my mobile for this period , this is an operator error.
    1. Nick_R
      Nick_R 12 October 2018 09: 40
      0
      And you did not pay attention to the word "telephone message" in the article?
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 12 October 2018 10: 38
        +3
        He paid, only you know, there are rules for its design, when adopted, the text of the telephone message, who accepted it, the time, acceptance, and here not the document on the acceptance of the telephone message, nor the call itself.
  15. Carib
    Carib 12 October 2018 08: 40
    +3
    Quote: 210ox
    Well, for the publication .. Which was not. belay

    Maybe all the same counterclaim? For false accusations!
    ps still fined the guilty, for an empty trial, it is a pity there is no such article ...
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 12 October 2018 08: 40
    +1
    Interestingly "grandmas are dancing"!
    Who and what was hooked there and hooked at all?
  17. BAI
    BAI 12 October 2018 09: 14
    +15
    1. This article is already hanging on several sites.
    2. “Justified by the lack of evidence of a crime” - most likely published on one of the sites, links to which are present on each page of VO.
    Mb this means: Justified by the understatement of the crime https://www.postsovet.ru/blog/russia/480998.html

    But in general, the situation resembles a joke:
    The court sentenced Rabinovich to apologize to Kaganovich and publicly declare: "Kaganovich is not a thief, sorry."
    Rabinovich: "Kaganovich is not a thief ?? !! Sorry!"
    1. Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim 12 October 2018 09: 22
      +5
      Have you read this article? Looking carefully? There is a link to kapress.ru and search engines show on this site. This site is closed for extremism, if I'm not mistaken. This is the first.
      Secondly. In the article mat. We do not publish articles with the mat.
      Thirdly. I fully admit that the article was posted on the site, but did not pass the moderation and was deleted before it hit the pages of the site. But the link could well be used for the weight of the article, since the link is available after being posted by the visitor. You can check it yourself.
      1. BAI
        BAI 12 October 2018 11: 07
        +1
        1.
        Have you read this article?

        Thanks to you, I read the article before writing the comment (I did not know about it before).
        2
        on kapress.ru and search engines show on this site
        .
        My search engine found this link (indicated in the comment). And in the article on this link the source indicates kavkazpress.ru/archives/35832
        3.
        In the article mat. We do not publish articles with obscenities.

        Mata did not see in the article, except for the only mention of the female dog.
        4.
        I fully admit that the article was posted on the site, but did not pass moderation

        I do not claim that it was published by "VO" and that the moderators read it. I say that the site could have links to it. For example like this:

        There is little hope for the F-35: Where did the Israeli fighters in Syria go?
        Russian girl explained how Russian husband is better than Finnish
        Why is Kudrin again inviting Russia to surrender?
        "Green men" in Libya: what is happening in northern Africa?
        Libya went with the "Russian card"

        And how you create these links on the site is up to you.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 12 October 2018 12: 14
        0
        Quote: Smirnov Vadim
        Thirdly. I fully admit that the article was posted on the site, but did not pass moderation and was deleted before it got to the pages of the site. But the link could well be used for the weight of the article, since the link is available after the visitor has posted it.

        This is perhaps similar to what happened, the "screen" was pulled off in a second, and a second later, the moderator deleted the source. that's all.
  18. Larum
    Larum 12 October 2018 09: 16
    0
    Urgently put a can of juice into the article (screen), say "Glory to Chechnya", and send the video to Kadyrov and on the social network, like they reacted ..
    Yesterday, a similar thing was advertised with a student
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 October 2018 12: 15
      -1
      Quote: Larum
      Urgently put a can of juice into the article (screen), say "Glory to Chechnya", and send the video to Kadyrov and on the social network, like they reacted ..
      Yesterday, a similar thing was advertised with a student

      janitors in Grozny will be added ...
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  20. steelmaker
    steelmaker 12 October 2018 09: 37
    +1
    Here is the result of Putin’s reign! So far, you haven’t encountered anything well, but as soon as, at least for the little things, you come across so awesome. Laws do not work and there is no punishment. Where is the landing?
  21. Blue fox
    Blue fox 12 October 2018 10: 31
    0
    It’s good that I apologized and it’s good that such serious people, high-ranking lawyers are engaged in our information security! That's right, serious tasks for serious people!
  22. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 12 October 2018 10: 37
    -1
    Judging by the information from the comments, the article, although not for a long time, could still be on the site. And therefore the claims are well-founded. And notifications could not come for the reason that the address indicated in the registration and your actual address are not the same.
    1. sib.ataman
      sib.ataman 12 October 2018 11: 10
      +3
      In fact, as far as we know, the site has an electronic archive where all the laid out material is located. You can check through a search engine, only the title of the article needs to know more or less accurately.
  23. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 12 October 2018 11: 04
    +1
    Oh yeah! In our collective farm called the Russian Federation laws are written for slaves and slaves! And the divinely chosen celestials: even from the UK, even from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Defense and some other devil, can score in general on everything that they themselves are guided by in their "production" activities, than others are reprimanded or put on a rack! They pick out a speck of 1000 years ago in someone else's eye, completely ignoring the logs sticking out in their eye sockets! And most importantly, their opinions and verdicts are completely outside the jurisdiction of anyone, although they can be made of 200% crap! Here they are the fruits of dermocracy! Although in the USSR it was the same!
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 12 October 2018 13: 22
      0
      Unfortunately, to one degree or another, this situation is everywhere.
  24. vargo
    vargo 12 October 2018 11: 12
    +1
    It would be nice to challenge this decision. Since this seems to be nothing of the kind, but in further cases they will also indicate this decision as a repeat of the offense. This may be the reason for blocking the resource in the future. Well, as I think. One must nevertheless be careful. I could find nothing but enforcement proceedings. In theory, the bailiffs should have data on the court decision. They need to be requested.
  25. Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 12 October 2018 12: 26
    +1
    "Justified for UNSPECIFIED crime." This is how to understand that, eh? belay What have we not said here? Let this Sable and Karnaukhin be told, maybe I can tell them. laughing
  26. BAI
    BAI 12 October 2018 14: 23
    +3
    "KP" today considered the problem of responsibility for words on the Internet. Final excerpt:
    WHAT YOU CAN PUNISH FOR ONLINE FOR (SAVE ON THE DESK)
    Bloggers are already planting these articles:
    1. Art. 280 of the Criminal Code, Public appeals for extremist activity, that is:
    a violent change in the system of the Russian Federation,
    the incitement of racial, national, religious hatred, the promotion of the superiority or inferiority of a person on social, racial, national, religious or linguistic affiliation,
    publicly knowingly false accusation of a person filling a public position of the Russian Federationin crime
    - shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of up to 5 years (public calls not via the Internet - for a term of up to four years). The appeal form does not matter.
    2. Art. 280.1, Public calls for violation of the integrity of the Russian Federation
    They are punished for up to 5 years (public calls not via the Internet - up to four years).
    3. Art. 282, The incitement of hatred and hatred on the grounds of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, religion, membership of a social group, the degradation of the dignity of a person or group of persons on these grounds, committed using the Internet (by publishing texts, documents, drawings, etc. .) are punished for a period of 2 to 5 years *.
    4. Art. 205.2, Public calls for terrorist activities, public justification of terrorism and propaganda of terrorism using the Internet are punishable by up to 7 years (without the Internet, up to 5 years).
    5. Art. 242, Illegal production, distribution, public demonstration or advertising of pornographic materials in the Russian Federation using the Internet - from 2 to 6 years (without the Internet - up to 2 years).
    Distribution, public demonstration or advertising of pornographic materials among minors or involving a minor in circulation - from 2 to 6 years (without the Internet - up to 5 years).
    6. Art. 242.1, Production, acquisition, storage, distribution, public demonstration and advertising of pornographic images of minors using the Internet - from 3 to 10 years (it was under this article that Eugenia Chudnovets was convicted, who reposted bullying a child, almost sat down on the same article KP reader, who sent a photo of a naked girl with the alleged pedophile to the newspaper: the investigators considered this act to be spread).
    7. Art. 354.1, The rehabilitation of Nazism, that is, the denial of the facts established by the sentence of the International Military Tribunal, the approval of the crimes established by this sentence, the dissemination of knowingly false information about the activities of the USSR during the Second World War, committed in public, are punishable by imprisonment for up to 3 years.
    The distribution of publicly disrespectful information about the days of military glory and memorable dates of Russia related to the defense of the Fatherland, as well as the desecration of symbols of Russian military glory committed in public, is punishable by corrections for up to 1 year.
    8. Art. 20.3 of the Code of Administrative Offenses, propaganda or a public demonstration of Nazi paraphernalia and symbols, as well as symbols of extremist organizations - entails an arrest of up to 15 days (from practice: they punish even the demonstration of symbols “similar to Nazi to the degree of indistinguishability”).
    These articles keep in reserve:
    1. Art. 128.1 of the Criminal Code, Defamation contained in public speaking, publicly displayed work and the media - a fine of up to one million rubles.
    2. Art. 298.1, Defamation of a judge, jury in connection with a case in court - two million rubles,
    - in relation to the prosecutor, investigator, interrogating officer, bailiff in connection with the investigation or execution of the sentence - a million rubles,
    - The accusation of any of them in a felony is five million rubles.
    3. Art. 137, Illegal dissemination in information and telecommunication networks of information indicating the identity of a minor victim in a criminal case, or a description of his suffering in connection with a crime, if this description resulted in harm to the health of the victim or mental illness - imprisonment of up to 5 years.
    4. Art. 354, Public calls for the outbreak of an aggressive war - up to 3 years.
    * This article was proposed to mitigate by the President.

    On Art. 280 we must pay attention to everyone who comments on the former Saratov Minister and 3500 a month today.
    1. jjj
      jjj 12 October 2018 15: 02
      +3
      If the letter of the law is firmly applied, then most of the participants in our television talk shows should have long been in places not so distant
      1. dauria
        dauria 13 October 2018 01: 27
        0
        If you firmly apply the letter of the law ...


        then the phrase "You haven't got drunk up there yet? So throw another five years to retirement age" pulls just 5 years. wink
    2. kitt409
      kitt409 14 October 2018 10: 08
      0
      Already does not take.
  27. Imobile
    Imobile 12 October 2018 15: 16
    0
    Yeah ... There was no court closer?
  28. NF68
    NF68 12 October 2018 16: 04
    0
    Original. They tried me without me.
  29. New Year day
    New Year day 12 October 2018 20: 29
    +3
    There is Basmanny justice. now there is Grozny. Progress is evident!
    1. Timtam
      Timtam 12 October 2018 22: 27
      -3
      Quote: Silvestr
      There is Basmanny justice. now there is Grozny. Progress is evident!
      The gene pool of Russia.
  30. The Siberian barber
    The Siberian barber 12 October 2018 22: 26
    +3
    Gee))
    I received a court order, a city where I have not lived for almost 20 years)) a car tax for the same 20 years. The main point is that it was sold 21 years ago laughing I already forgot that there was such a
    Trouble were still those! ...)))
  31. Radikal
    Radikal 13 October 2018 00: 46
    +1
    In general, the style and the actual content of the photo document, which are presented does not stand up to any criticism - where did these "lawyers" who "gave birth" to it studied? That is why in the country everything turns out like this, through the anus, a poorly educated, aggressive and wretched minority has come to the state bodies, which is trying to compensate for these gaps with such "filkin 'letters"! I would like to know what kind of publication it was (by the way, the document does not even have a publication date), and what has Grozny got to do with it? They themselves need to file a counterclaim! sad
  32. Radikal
    Radikal 13 October 2018 00: 51
    +1
    According to Article 354, it is high time for a whole battalion of political scientists, historians, and some cultural figures to be "ground" on bunks! lol
  33. Radikal
    Radikal 13 October 2018 00: 58
    +1
    Quote: ccsr
    Quote: Vadim Smirnov
    What to look for? Plaintiff Colonel of Justice Sobol AND. A.
    The court was still in 2016 year. The ruling we got in this ...

    This does not play a role - you can request the case file, the article itself must be there, and it must be indicated that the plaintiff has refuted, demanding that this be recognized as untrue. It is strange that you so easily agreed with a court decision if there really was no such article.

    yes yes yes hi
  34. Radikal
    Radikal 13 October 2018 01: 00
    +2
    Quote: Conductor
    Have you tried to get acquainted with the case materials? There may be a printed article.

    What do you mean "maybe" - he must be there!