Russia and India again did not agree. Rent another submarine will not be?

India was unable to reach an agreement with Russia on the acquisition of the second nuclear multi-purpose submarine of the 971 project, the negotiations were deadlocked. The reason for this is not a coincidence of the views of the parties on the issue of the rental price of the submarine, reports bmpd blog, citing the Indian edition of "India Today".

According to the publication, it was the question of the price of renting a submarine became the main obstacle to the signing of the relevant agreement. The last round of talks, which took place on 24-28 in September in New Delhi, also did not bring positive news for the Indian side. According to available information, the Russian side demanded more than 2,5 billion dollars for the repair and modernization of the submarine within five years.

It should be recalled that at present in the Indian Navy is serving the Russian nuclear submarine K-152 "Nerpa", leased by India and having the Indian name S72 Chakra. The lease term of the submarine, transferred to the Indian side in 2011, ends at 2022 and therefore India decided to negotiate the lease of the second Russian submarine of the 971 project, having already given it the code name Chakra-3, but Russia, which received about 1 billion for the modernization and lease of the first submarines, for the second requested twice.

In the Indian Navy, Russian nuclear submarines are used to prepare the crews of Indian submariners for service on domestic nuclear submarines, the commissioning of which began in the 2016 year.

Comments

[Corsair0304]

Russia, which received about $ 1 billion for the modernization and rental of the first submarine, requested twice as much for the second.

And what, in fact, has changed so significantly in the boat that the rental price has increased two and a half times? What is the argument? I would also be slightly surprised at this turn of events. And certainly some preliminary negotiations were conducted. Not immediately, out of nowhere, such a price appeared.

[Law abiding citizen]

Inflation, I dare to suppose. Not someone’s greed ..

[jjj]

Well, the Nerpa was a new boat. And now there are no new 971 projects. Only through the "Star". And this is completely different money

[Borik]

During this time, the dollar has risen in price to the ruble two times and the rent has risen in price. That's just the Indians can not understand this.

[tlauicol]

Quote: Borik

During this time, the dollar has risen in price to the ruble two times and the rent has risen in price. That's just the Indians can not understand this.

So the price in dollars should fall by half, and not grow

[Vadmir]

So the price in dollars should fall by half, and not grow

And the "great and perfect" dollar is not subject to inflation, in your opinion?
And we have too few boats to give out to the right and left for pennies. And ship repair facilities with the repair of their own boats do not fit the deadlines to distract them for the sake of India.

[tlauicol]

Quote: Vadmir

So the price in dollars should fall by half, and not grow

And the "great and perfect" dollar is not subject to inflation, in your opinion?
And we have too few boats to give out to the right and left for pennies. And ship repair facilities with the repair of their own boats do not fit the deadlines to distract them for the sake of India.

What, the dollar has fallen by half in 6 years? wriggle like a snake in a pan! And, most importantly, everyone is to blame, except for ourselves

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Corsair0304

And what, in fact, has changed so significantly in the boat that the rental price has increased two and a half times? What is the argument?

Yes, everything is simple - you need money, period! Here in the Russian Federation so often "go around the market, you can find cheaper"

[kjhg]

Quote: Corsair0304

And what, in fact, has changed so significantly in the boat that the rental price has increased two and a half times? What is the argument?

It's just that our country has stability if you are not in the know. Over these ten years of stability, prices for everything from gasoline to steel have grown so that the price increase for a boat is 2 times - this is the minimum, in my opinion.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Corsair0304

And what, in fact, has changed so significantly in the boat that the rental price has increased two and a half times? What is the argument?

As an option, the technical condition of the boat - it can be different, respectively, and repair work is more expensive

[g1v2]

Those boats that our Indians want to rent out are in much worse condition. It will be either Sperm Whale or Magadan. Both are not young. What they need kapitalka with modernization. Work at times more than the Nerpa. I’m not even sure that they will keep within 5 years if they nevertheless agree.
In general, it’s a pity that we did not agree. Now, probably, they’ll write off the scrap, and they would also be like money to the country and the factory workers.

[Evgeniy667b]

It remains for the Russian fleet to switch to inflatable water. Have the ships themselves - the cat wept, and also give part of them for rent? Absurd stupidity!

[tlauicol]

Quote: Svarog

Hindus in their repertoire .. traded ..

You read at least one paragraph, the penultimate

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Tlauicol

You should read at least one paragraph,

Svarog is the master of the title, why should he read the text.

[Conductor]

1. The Russian Federation so wanted because it is the owner, the crisis in the yard, so on and so on, the price has risen. 2. Hindus could simply try to bend ours at a disproportionately low price or conditions, they are lovers. Ours answered so.

[pru-pavel]

Why be surprised. The dollar jumped. All prices jumped, not just submarines. For gas and a communal apartment too

[aleks26]

Russia, which received about $ 1 billion for the modernization and rental of the first submarine, requested twice as much for the second.

Well, maybe with the first submarine we ran into, and the real costs were higher than planned. It happens, the invisible hand of the market.

[Tusv]

but Russia, which received about $ 1 billion for the modernization and rental of the first submarine, requested twice as much for the second.

And what they wanted. Age compared to the first +10 years. Yes, no one canceled inflation of the buck. Take it while the good. Repair and modernization will only grow

[tlauicol]

And what, rupees are no longer friends? Settlements in national currency turned out to be blah blah blah? They broke the horse price simply, and even in bucks. Found a new feeding trough

[aleks26]

Quote: Tlauicol

And what, rupees are no longer friends? Settlements in national currency turned out to be blah blah blah?

And now tell you the amount of the contract in rupees, you immediately realize how much it is, or not enough?

[aleks26]

Here is a Russian-language site, and do not bother with exotic currencies and metric systems other than international SI. All sorts of pounds, feet, gallons, pints, yards on the fix! The authors are saddled if you write articles - translate everything into meters, seconds, kilograms!

[aleks26]

Quote: Tlauicol

And what, rupees are no longer friends? Settlements in national currency turned out to be blah blah blah?

And if you tell the amount of the contract in rupees, you immediately realize how much it is, or not enough? Get on the Internet for courses, a calculator? Do you need this?

[tlauicol]

what for ? even in tugriks, even in kilometers - two and a half times more expensive - this is firstly! fuck the nat. nobody needs a currency - this is secondly

[Jerk]

Those partners are worse than Ukrainians

[Alexey-74]

Maybe ours remembered the Indians, as those American marine engineers were invited on board? And then. that did not agree on the price - just an excuse ....

[fif21]

The Indians allowed American specialists on a leased submarine of the Russian Federation. And now we have received a diplomatic refusal Betrayed once, betrayed and the second And let this be bought out or extended.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: fif21

Betrayed once, betrayed and the second

A foreign customer has the right to put foreign equipment at his discretion. But imported iron has risen in price seriously ... Therefore, prices have so risen. But they have nowhere to go - they will continue to bargain .. until blue in the face .. until the second coming of Krishna! Gypsies, damn it!

[globus]

Modernization has risen in price. Systems, complexes updated

[utyutkin]

I wonder how much will it cost to buy a similar ship from scratch? I just do not quite understand the term cap repair in relation to submarine, while there even hulls have terms of underwater operation.

[Sailor]

All right, antiques are always more expensive!