Japan protested Russia. Again on someone else's coveted

The Japanese authorities expressed another protest to Russia because of the Russian Defense Ministry’s shooting in the Kuril Islands, RIA reports News with reference to the statement of the Secretary General of the Japanese Government Yoshihide Suga.

According to Yoshihide Suga, the training of firing by the Russian armed forces will lead to an increase in the military presence of the Russian army on the four northern islands, which does not coincide with the position of Japan. In order to no longer raise this issue, "it is necessary to resolve the issue of the northern territories themselves, that is, their affiliation," the secretary of the Japanese government added.

Earlier, Moscow warned Tokyo about conducting training in the area of ​​the Kuril Islands.

Recall that Japan sets a condition for concluding a peace treaty with Russia to transfer to it the so-called "northern territories", namely the Kuril Islands Kunashir, Shikotan, Iturup and Habomai, which allegedly belong to it according to the bilateral Tract on Trade and 1855 borders of the year. The position of Moscow remains unchanged: the islands became part of the USSR following the Second World War and Russian sovereignty over them is not subject to questioning and revision.

Comments

[Altona]

Painfully reminiscent of the 1930s, mutual territorial claims to each other ... History goes in a spiral.

[NG inform]

Just do not forget that Japan is an occupied country and cannot conduct an independent foreign policy.

[hrych]

And do not forget that the Kwantung Army was destroyed and that island Japan did not have a springboard to conduct ground battles with us, and a large-scale landing operation is a cool thing when there were no tactical nuclear weapons.

[solzh]

It is no longer a matter of occupation, although this condition has an effect on Japan’s foreign policy towards Russia. There is most likely a weakness in Russia's foreign policy. If Russia decides to break off economic and political relations with Japan and begins to build up a military group in the Japanese direction, in my opinion, the question of transferring the southern Kuril Islands to Japan will fall away from them in the next couple of years. Japan then recognizes the islands as Russian territory, the same states will require such a step from Japan, because The US is afraid of strengthening Russia in the Far Eastern region.

[Arh]

Japanese get lost, these are our islands!

[Shurik70]

Why on earth are we "asking" them to conclude a peace treaty?
They must be asked. They should need it, so let them ask.
And we will agree with the condition of Japan's rejection of territorial claims.
They do not want to - there will be no contract.

[Rurikovich]

Quote: Shurik70

Why on earth are we "asking" them to conclude a peace treaty?
They must be asked. They should need it, so let them ask.
And we will agree with the condition of Japan's rejection of territorial claims.
They do not want to - there will be no contract.

By the way, yes. I agree with you

[Govorun]

We don’t ask, we offer, and if the Japanese are pulling, then this puts them in an awkward situation ... all right, our people are doing that they are driving the Japanese into their own trap, where by agreeing to a peace treaty they close the topic of disputed islands, engage in joint peaceful projects, and ours agree not to deploy military bases (conditionally), where it is possible to mention these islands at least casually, and if they don’t agree, then the Kuril topic closes but with our deployment of military bases with all the consequences ... And we offered you ....

[GRF]

We have no claims to them ...
Although, if it is a spiral, can we claim Honshu as a winner?
It will be where to send their liberals (well, those who do not want to work) ...

[BAI]

islands became part of the USSR after the Second World War

As the Japanese themselves said, when, as a result of the RJV, they chopped off pieces of Russia, "the war revises any agreements." So there is nothing to raise the wave now.

[yehat]

it is worth recalling the birth of the indicated trade agreement - Russian trapper bases were knocked out of these islands with weapons and the Japanese secured the official agreement.
those. the Japanese have squeezed these islands from Russia already 2 times and are now trying for the third time.

[Altona]

Quote: yehat

the Japanese secured a formal agreement.

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Why don't the samurai want Okinawa back? From the official floors, so to speak, not from popular protests. Or is Okinawa a Kemska Volost for them?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Altona

Quote: yehat

the Japanese secured a formal agreement.

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Why don't the samurai want Okinawa back? From the official floors, so to speak, not from popular protests. Or is Okinawa a Kemska Volost for them?

as they remember Hiroshima, so Okinawa is not needed ... "master's good" ...

[yehat]

want to return, I assure you, and these moods are much stronger than about the northern territories (this topic is raised in part to blur the Okinawa issue)
but the psychology of society since the unification of Japan is such that the Japanese preach the behavior of conciliation and conformism within society (the appearance of consent)
and public opinion is called by the elite - now they are talking about Okinawa to be silent.
and in general, in Japan it is soft and not very noticeable, but rather rigidly imposed following the generally accepted paradigms.

Now in Okinawa, on average, 3 times a day, rape of Japanese women by American soldiers according to official statistics (which is, but is never voluntarily voiced by the authorities, is widely reported). For the entire existence of the base, less than 10 people have been convicted of this. And there is another crime. Pollution from the base has taken on already threatening economies of scale. Accidents with casualties and major damage are in the tens. Do you think this doesn’t infuriate the Japanese?

[Rurikovich]

Quote: yehat

Do you think this doesn’t infuriate the Japanese?

But the Japanese are proudly silent. A silence is a sign of consent So, this is the fate of those Japanese women, if the state is proudly silent ...
But barking at Russia and demanding something is a modern trend in the Western world. So it is better to "protest" that the owner of the islands is doing something there on them than to really tell the master that he would not touch his daughter
So they, the Japanese, whether Panimash

[GRF]

They are probably looking for where to escape ...
As I understand the northern territories for heat-loving, this is the edge of the earth ...

[ochakow703]

But I think that the Japanese would have long ago calmed down and signed all the treaties, had they been a sovereign state. When you have a bunch of weapons and the owner’s soldiers ... you will forget about the nuclear ashes of your relatives.

[GRF]

Well, then I must say that we are waiting for offers from their owner ...

[Smoked]

Here is the picture for the news about the Kuril Islands.

[sogdy]

Sorry, but this "postcard" is not confirmed by documents of that time.

[yehat]

this approach is lacking in our diplomacy - they often act clumsily, straightforwardly and this does not cause any respect from the Japanese side. All agreements are based only on fear, and this is an unreliable argument. It seems that there are enough specialists in Japan in the country, but as it comes to negotiations, it seems that our government and diplomats trained exclusively in the jungles of Africa and know nothing about Japan or British diplomacy.

[sleeve]

duck and you can not write a letter to them, such as: "recognize the results of the Second World War"?

[GRF]

This question can be written on Yars ...

[Lekov L]

In order not to raise this issue in the future, "it is necessary to resolve the issue of the northern territories themselves, that is, their ownership," added the secretary of the Japanese government.

So they said that we will not give it up, so you have a final decision - do not raise the question, otherwise you have already got it.

[Jerk]

The Russian Federation will never give these islands to US bases. And I recommend Japan to tackle the return of US-occupied territories of Japan

[NG inform]

Rude Nazis.

[sib.ataman]

Here's another Misty Albion spotted! Well, I mean, the brains are completely clouded!

[Conductor]

Hem a note in business and forget.

[Incvizitor]

Let Japan first be freed from the real invaders then blather.

[K-50]

These are not samurai, but some kind of moaning.

[Sands Careers General]

There are no samurai there. They were brought out. There are only animeshniki left)

[aleksandrs95]

I wonder if there is a reason for Japan to present territorial claims, well, or an extreme case to claim compensation from them is unrealistic based on the results of the war.

[MIG00001]

Well, when the American base disappears in Japan, then we’ll talk and now it’s babble

[NEXUS]

The Japanese authorities have protested Russia again because of the shooting of the Russian Defense Ministry in the Kuril Islands, RIA Novosti reported with reference to a statement by the Secretary General of the Japanese government, Yoshihide Suga.

And from what Russian vegetable, should Russia explain something to the Japanese about its actions in its territory? And the second ... what side of the Japs should they care about?
Claim? ... So nefig was with Hitler kissing the gums.

[Ros 56]

Narrow-eyed, your number is sixteenth, it’s the turn to occupy a place for protest in Antarctica. And do not forget to take permission from the stripes.

[kefan]

The country that lost the war makes some more territorial claims. Yes, it was necessary to send them to the forest and all. What can you agree on when the right of the strong acts?

[mavrus]

After the treatise of 1855 ...
But the Japs didn’t really stick to him when they seized half of Sakhalin and a bunch of other things.

[ODERVIT]

Please enlighten. And how did the question of territorial claims arise between the country that won the Second World War and the country of the aggressor.

[Dobroslav2015]

"Moscow's position remains unchanged: the islands became part of the USSR following World War II, and Russian sovereignty over them is not subject to doubt and is not subject to revision." - as well as changing the retirement age.

[martin-159]

I would use this comment as an epigraph.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: from article

Japanese authorities protest Russia again over Russian Defense Ministry firing in the Kuril Islands

And our Foreign Ministry should protest against the unfounded Japanese protest, and warn about the inadmissibility of such protests for our activities in our territory, and if they do not stop climbing with their protests, then cancel all previous agreements reached on the Kuril Islands. No joint economic activity on the islands! And no negotiations on the Kuril Islands!

Quote: from article

Earlier, Moscow warned Tokyo about conducting training in the area of ​​the Kuril Islands.

And why was there a warning? Well, it’s not a drill, but just training firing.

[Sands Careers General]

Oh, go nippons to the bathhouse. They just do what they whine. It would be better whined about the fact that their Yankees occupied.
But they cannot, because we are good, and the stars-stripes from the "land of the rising sun" will leave only the sun in case of disobedience.

[LeonidL]

Japan was offended - issued a manifesto. The paper is very soft for causal places.

[Evil 55]

If I were in the place of GDP, I would have found a literate person in the government by the name of Vasilevsky and appointed him to lead the normalization of relations with Japan ... His namesake coped well with this in the 40s ..

[Rostislav]

Call an ambassador and give a note for interfering in the internal affairs of Russia and an attempt to indicate what to do on its own territory.