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President Putin is in the top three anti-rating leaders. Version of the Levada Center

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Recently, sociological monitoring services published the latest ratings data of Russian politicians and government officials. Publication specifically noted Levada Center (performs the functions of a foreign agent). If you believe the data of this center, the trust rating of the Russian president continues to fall. If in June of the current year it was 48%, then by the end of September it sank to the level of 39%.


President Putin is in the top three anti-rating leaders. Version of the Levada Center


Many heads of Western states could envy such a rating, but for Russian political reality these are not at all those values ​​that the government could write to itself as an asset. Especially, given the result of Vladimir Putin in the March presidential election.

How were the answers of the Russians interviewed by the Levada Center distributed to the question of which of the modern political figures they trust:

About trust Vladimir Putinas already noted, stated 39% respondents. Attention is drawn to the fact that in second place is the answer "No such" - 18%. On 15% surveyed trust Sergey Shoigu and Vladimir Zhirinovsky. Among the leaders of the rating - Sergey Lavrov and Dmitry Medvedev (they have 10%).

In the presented final list, Navalny with 3% bypassed, for example, the head of the fair Russia, Mironov.

In the same survey, respondents found out which of the political figures Russians least of all trust. It turned out that the leader of the anti-rating is Dmitry Medvedev, the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation. Untrusters - 31%. Vladimir Zhirinovsky does not trust 20% of respondents. And for the first time in a long time, the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin, was in the top three of anti-rating leaders. He was refused trust 13% of respondents "LC".

After the publication of this data in the general access mode, the political consultants of the authorities decided to take such a step as demonstrating the proximity of the authorities to the working people. On federal channels there were plots about a joint visit by the president and the chairman of the government to an agricultural enterprise in the Stavropol region - with a lunch of soup, potatoes, cutlets and compote.

When covering the trip of the first state officials to the Stavropol Territory, the federal channels decided not to extend the topical issue of pension reform, stating once again that "reform is a necessary measure, and people understand it." They decided not to focus on the fact that “according to statistics” no more than 15% of the population, and the remaining 85% were “understood to be refused”.
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  1. Svarog
    Svarog 10 October 2018 10: 23
    +21
    No wonder .. what is surprising is that after all that he has done, in general someone has supported him. 18 years .. and there is enough conscience among people ..
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 10 October 2018 10: 28
      +88
      Quote: Svarog
      No wonder .. what is surprising is that after all that he has done, in general someone has supported him. 18 years .. and there is enough conscience among people ..

      1. Olegater
        Olegater 10 October 2018 10: 30
        +13
        And this is not a complete list!
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 10 October 2018 10: 48
          -9
          I will add. Crimea? War in Chechnya? can be supplemented by "reaching" the marked and drunk. will return to those days?
          1. maxim947
            maxim947 10 October 2018 10: 50
            -3
            The contribution of V.V. It is difficult to overestimate Putin in the development of the country, something quickly forgotten in what ass many of us and the country as a whole were sitting. Many people have too short a memory, or they simply do not have enough brains to soberly compare facts and changes in the country. Yes, now it has become more difficult, for all known reasons, but according to the plans of the "partners" it should have been in "shreds", and so, we are coping with nothing. The country is pursuing an independent policy, Crimea has been returned, all enslaving debts have been paid off, the economy is slowly but progressively developing across all ranges. And all this is very expensive. But now the trend is to blame everything)), and above all the power. Of course, change is needed, but in a calm and peaceful way.
            1. Jerk
              Jerk 10 October 2018 10: 54
              -1
              That's it ... Five years have not passed, and everyone has already forgotten that the RF just looked so recently:

              Nice to see the role of Russia in the world?
              1. Snail N9
                Snail N9 10 October 2018 11: 05
                +41
                Well ..... or like this:
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                2. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 10 October 2018 11: 26
                  -21
                  Or like this:
                  1. bulvas
                    bulvas 10 October 2018 11: 55
                    -7
                    President Putin is in the top three anti-rating leaders. Version of the Levada Center



                    And to me V.V. Putin likes

                    most of his actions, I approve, I don’t understand something, but, as you know, they consider chickens in the fall

                    I believe that this god sent him to Russia in difficult times


                    Levada Center is a foreign agent, not an authority for me

                    Svarog and his associates are either provocateurs or interested

                    either foolish and blind people

                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 10 October 2018 13: 18
                      -23
                      That's it.
                      Lavada Center is FOREIGN AGENT OF INFLUENCE.
                      Putin returned Crimea to Russia, ended the war in Chechnya, defended the North Caucasus.
                      And under the name of Putin, Westerners grit their teeth.
                      Yes, not everything he managed to do. There are still oligarchs in Russia, and not everyone who escaped with scarfs in the bath self-choked. It was not possible to plant Chubais with the Sword.
                      Well, the last one is pension reform, I could not prevent it, which is what all Lavada centers use to pump up anti-rating.
                      EXCEPT PUTIN, NOW ON THE TOP OF THE BEST NO ONE!
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 10 October 2018 14: 30
                        -18
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        And under the name of Putin, Westerners grit their teeth.

                        Westerners, Bandera, the Miberaleans and the Communists, Putin's throat. They all feel sick at the mention of Putin .. Coincidence? I don’t think.
                      2. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 14: 39
                        -22
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        And under the name of Putin, Westerners grit their teeth.

                        Westerners, Bandera, the Miberaleans and the Communists, Putin's throat. They all feel sick at the mention of Putin .. Coincidence? I don’t think.



                        and not only Westerners
                        communists too

                        Still, under the Soviet regime, the entire USSR, with Kazakhstan, Ukraine did not give as many agricultural products as the Russian Federation now provides

                        For the harvest, which is now the norm, in the USSR they gave a Hero


                        Bandera will breathe for a while, make some noise, anyway then they will have to run across the ocean, whoever has time, the whole history around Russia has always developed, it cannot be otherwise


                        Now the Communists hope to seize power, as in 1917, on a muddy wave, then they will not have a chance.

                        The West hinders the development of Russia as much as it can, they understand that a successful life and growth of well-being in Russia will not give them a chance to win over their neighbors, especially their former "brothers"

                        In fact, only welfare swayed due to the fall of the ruble, but this is necessary to increase the competitiveness of our products.

                        All major projects continue to work, in science, industry, the army, etc.

                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 16: 11
                        +17
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Still, under the Soviet regime, the entire USSR, with Kazakhstan, Ukraine did not give as many agricultural products as the Russian Federation now provides

                        What kind of crop is this? Fifth grade wheat? It would be interesting to see the percentage of grain cultivation by variety. But then it’s somehow not visible, and the question arises, and why the hell banned the grain inspection?
                        Quote: bulvas
                        All major projects continue to work, in science, industry, the army, etc.

                        True? Has the whole government moved to New Moscow?
                        Maybe import substitution?
                        In science? What kind of projects are there, can you explain? And then I remember how the clouds were dispersed from the ground, shown on a box, only here it was bad luck, a dozhik dripped. Likely plus and minus beguiled. How is it brought to mind?
                      4. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 19: 21
                        -19
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Truth? The whole government moved to New Moscow? Maybe import substitution? In science? What kind of projects are there, can you explain? And then I remember how the clouds were dispersed from the ground, shown on a box, only here it was bad luck, a dozhik dribbled. Likely plus and minus beguiled. How is it brought to mind?


                        Why is it so sausage?

                        I see the illiterate revolutionary sailor in the workshop before the workers,
                        - a demagogue trying to chat not very educated people


                      5. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 19: 30
                        +14
                        Quote: bulvas
                        I see the illiterate revolutionary sailor in the workshop before the workers,

                        Well, yes, I have three classes of education with a trailer. The demagogue is me. Can you push the facts? Do you know how much revenue from production comes to the budget, and how much came, say, in the 85 year? There the figure is more than an order of magnitude different.
                      6. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 19: 33
                        -19
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: bulvas
                        I see the illiterate revolutionary sailor in the workshop before the workers,

                        Well, yes, I have three classes of education with a trailer. The demagogue is me. Can you push the facts? Do you know how much revenue from production comes to the budget, and how much came, say, in the 85 year? There the figure is more than an order of magnitude different.



                        I say the demagogue

                        And where does the state budget?

                        Build your own and live as you like
                      7. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 19: 43
                        +9
                        Quote: bulvas
                        And where does the state budget?

                        Build your own and live as you like

                        Good idea! But what a hitch, a man, in essence, cannot live alone. Whatever you imagine yourself, without an anthill, we are nobody. Including Agafya Lykova. By the way, you can attach a bunch of offenses to her, if you want.
                      8. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 19: 54
                        -10
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Good idea! But what a hitch


                        Listen, demagogue, try to explain an interesting coincidence:

                        - West hates Putin
                        - all sorts of Kasparov, Bozheny Brylsky, Gozman - they hate Putin
                        -Bandera and Svidomo-hate Putin

                        - Communists demagogues - hate Putin


                        Try to explain how the Bolsheviks got into such a company.



                      9. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 19: 55
                        +9
                        Quote: bulvas
                        West hates Putin

                        And where did you get this from?
                      10. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 19: 58
                        -6
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: bulvas
                        West hates Putin

                        And where did you get this from?


                        but without demagoguery you can’t talk?


                        ok, remove the West from the list if you do not agree and consider that

                        - May dancer loves and respects Putin,

                        - US senators and congressmen love and respect Putin,


                        - The leadership of the EU and NATO (or is it not the West for you?) love and respect Putin

                      11. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 20: 07
                        -9
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: bulvas
                        West hates Putin

                        And where did you get this from?



                        AU Mordvin No. 3demagogue!

                        Will the answer be?

                        I repeat the question:

                        - How did it happen that the Communists got into the same company with Bandera, Kasparov and Gozman?


                      12. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 20: 21
                        +9
                        Quote: bulvas
                        How did it happen that the Communists got into the same company with Bandera, Kasparov and Gozman?

                        What kind of communists do you mean? At our enterprise, one communist refused a two-room apartment, for example. And that was already in the 92 year. And whoever got into the same company with Bandera, I don’t understand at all.
                      13. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 11 October 2018 08: 15
                        +1
                        Do you Communists divided by grades? What is the gradation: 1,2,3-grades, or higher and lower and something average?
                      14. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 10: 21
                        +11
                        boulevard
                        "I repeat the question:

                        - How did it happen that the communists got into the same company with Bandera, Kasparov and Gozman?

                        So the list was YOU, you have to ask it. By what criteria did you include them in this list?
                      15. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 15: 46
                        -5
                        Quote: voffchik7691
                        So the list was YOU, you have to ask it. By what criteria did you include them in this list?


                        in a friendly family of demagogues arrived?

                        this is where you are propagated?

                        In general, does anyone see what people are doing?
                      16. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 20: 11
                        +15
                        Quote: bulvas
                        ok, remove the West from the list if you don't agree

                        I do not agree with you on anything. Neither about the West, nor about the East. And where am I and whom are I misleading? Are you suggesting that I understand how the Communists dislike Putin? I will answer. As a KGB officer, he betrayed his country.
                      17. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 20: 13
                        -12
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I do not agree with you on anything. Neither about the West, nor about the East. And where am I and whom are I misleading? Are you suggesting that I understand how the Communists dislike Putin? I will answer. As a KGB officer, he betrayed his country.


                        You think you got out?

                        It turned out pale

                        As a specialist in security services, Putin acted very professionally:

                        he managed to get out of Western control,
                        return oil revenues to the state budget
                        lime the oligarchs and remove them from the state
                        remove bandits from our lives
                        significantly reduce poverty in the country
                        calm the Caucasus
                        save the country from decay
                        restore power and respect to the army
                        restore the defense industry
                        return Crimea
                        fix the situation in Syria
                        etc. etc.

                        your move, demagogue


                      18. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 20: 29
                        +7
                        Quote: bulvas
                        It turned out pale

                        Let's red. Reading memoirs of Putin’s colleagues, I understood something about him. Despite my education, and the sailor slogans that you attributed to me.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        You think you got out?

                        No, I'm spinning like a squirrel, finding a trace of privatization in 90.
                      19. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 41
                        -6
                        Ah ha, memoirs of Putin’s colleagues, and I understood ... laughing ! That you my friend is now close to the KGB-FSB ... and also to the president! Well, listen .... "I served somehow with Putin" ... then you can think of it yourself, as you please, damn well, you made fun of reading the memoirs ... wassat
                      20. LSA57
                        LSA57 11 October 2018 13: 07
                        -5
                        Reading the memoirs of Putin’s colleagues

                        didn’t he write memoirs?
                      21. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 21: 06
                        +7
                        Quote: bulvas
                        he managed to get out of Western control,

                        No comment.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        return oil revenues to the state budget

                        Here I would like to like a little more detail.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        lime the oligarchs and remove them from the state

                        Well yes. "Return the pen."
                        Quote: bulvas
                        remove bandits from our lives

                        It was easier for me to talk with the bandits from 90's on their right fists than with today's ones from the authorities.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        significantly reduce poverty in the country

                        I, in 90, received about a million rubles in production. I had enough. In 80, being a student, he received a ticket to the Crimea. He refused.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        significantly reduce poverty in the country

                        If all the poor are poisoned, like cockroaches, then they will not be.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        calm the Caucasus

                        Well yes. First, "Let us soak in the toilet", and then amnesty for everyone who surrendered their weapons.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        save the country from decay

                        Is it Chechnya again chtol? I've already expressed my opinion, what for it is not needed.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        restore power and respect to the army

                        Power returned somehow, but respect - I doubt it. As a contract, we repaired a UAZ tablet. So for two months they could not do anything.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        restore the defense industry

                        Quote: bulvas
                        return Crimea

                        I will not argue here, especially in the Crimea.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        fix the situation in Syria

                        Yes, for what, excuse me, did Syria surrender to us? Just don’t tell me about DAISH approaches at close range.
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                      23. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 21: 16
                        +6
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Tell me why McCain, Gozman, Kasparov and the Communists have the same goals?

                        What are the goals? The same?
                        Explain, please.
                      24. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 21: 23
                        -7
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Tell me why McCain, Gozman, Kasparov and the Communists have the same goals?

                        What are the goals? The same?
                        Explain, please.


                        is memory bad?
                        or as a lady, you pretend that without glasses you can hardly see?

                        read above
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                      27. snake
                        snake 10 October 2018 23: 15
                        +12
                        Yes, the campaign is paid to you for your praises of the way. I really hope that you are just a paid Kremlin lover. Well, a person in his right mind cannot, after a whole cascade of "gifts" from edra and pu, have a dog's devotion to them.
                      28. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 01: 02
                        -10
                        Quote: serpent
                        Yes, the campaign is paid to you for your praises of the way. I really hope that you are just a paid Kremlin lover. Well, a person in his right mind cannot, after a whole cascade of "gifts" from edra and pu, have a dog's devotion to them.



                        and who told you about loyalty?
                        I don’t serve anyone, I work for myself, I don’t even go to the polls.

                        Your style of insulting through the distortion of a surname gives you a fan of Borovoy, Kasparov and Bozena.

                        Such as you are not capable of more, spit dirty snot, not a single sane thought from you.

                        But the fact that you are trying to help communist Mordvin No. 3 speaks volumes.
                      29. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 52
                        -5
                        Vasya, don’t spoil your nerves, whoever sees sees ... and whoever doesn’t want to, at least ssy in the eye ..!
                      30. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 09: 26
                        -4
                        Quote: igorka357
                        Vasya, don’t spoil your nerves, whoever sees sees ... and whoever doesn’t want to, at least ssy in the eye ..!



                        Igor hi
                        not very nervous, these old men are more amused

                        they all see, offended greatly by power, and here they emit bile.

                        stood in line with Kasparov and Bandera
                      31. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 09: 13
                        +5
                        Leave the communists alone. Putin was also a "communist". Like Sechin, Matvienko, Medvedev and others like them. Only here is a communist communist strife. There are communists who flew into space; science and industry were raised. And there are those who destroyed the USSR. There are also "communists" - shape-shifters. What are you talking about specifically?
                      32. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 09: 30
                        -6
                        Quote: serpent
                        Leave the communists alone. Putin is also a "communist"


                        now, the serpentine is already being corrected.

                        Stopped distorting the Russian language.
                        Only for this I put a plus.


                        But the Communists - do not care, their time has passed.
                        The next generation will not pay attention to them
                      33. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 09: 44
                        +4
                        The time of the communists has passed. The time has come for the jackals.
                      34. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 12: 07
                        -5
                        Quote: serpent
                        The time of the communists has passed. The time has come for the jackals.


                        yeah, for a small fee they write all sorts of nasty things about their country
                      35. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 51
                        -8
                        Dogs, okay, they are friends of people, but snakes .. they are still those ... the truth is, serpent .. wink Whose "love" are you, navalnok, al sterninian ..?
                      36. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 09: 14
                        +6
                        What, more than two options to offer, horizons and intelligence do not allow?
                      37. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 15: 49
                        -3
                        Quote: serpent
                        What, more than two options to offer, horizons and intelligence do not allow?


                        I will try: Khodorkovets?
                      38. free
                        free 11 October 2018 08: 15
                        +7
                        Yes, they don’t pay, but pay extra. They pay for work, but they pay extra for lackeys.
                      39. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 09: 31
                        -5
                        Quote: free
                        Yes, they don’t pay, but pay extra. They pay for work, but they pay extra for lackeys.



                        maybe you're right, you know better how it’s organized
                      40. LSA57
                        LSA57 11 October 2018 13: 25
                        -7
                        Quote: serpent
                        Yes, the campaign is paid to you for your praises of Puten.

                        take a look in the fridge. is empty ???? get outside. cars small around? I remind you that there used to be a couple of cars for the whole house, now in every family. and also remind you what the WAGES FUND ?????? and I lived in this. from pay to pay occupied
                      41. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 22: 25
                        -2
                        If it’s better than in the 90s, then it’s already good, right? If the laws of the government continue to be adopted in the same direction, soon there will again be an empty refrigerator and few cars (gas is not official).
                        PS I looked into the refrigerator. Well, you know ... I would like to see more interesting products in it.
                      42. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 21: 55
                        +12
                        And this ... How Putin returned oil revenues there, you never said.
                      43. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 53
                        -10
                        And you would ask the West, even they recognized ... lol
                      44. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 09: 39
                        -5
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        And this ... How Putin returned oil revenues there, you never said.


                        and ask Khodorkovsky
                      45. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 11: 09
                        +6
                        bulvas
                        "and you ask Khodorkovsky"

                        Hodor had to be put on a stake.
                        No, let's get better with Sechin. He has just a salary from the oil industry. How many lyamas are he on, day ah ?!
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                      47. Dull
                        Dull 11 October 2018 13: 15
                        +5
                        Quote: igorka357
                        How much bitterness in one comment, albeit bad, albeit a lot of trouble done, albeit poorly led the country, but ... a man does not die, he dies! Cattle dies in the barn ...

                        About "cyanotic" can you say that he died? After what he did to the country? Against the background of the extinction of the population from hunger when the "family" and the Bratva receive billions of states per night just by being in the circle of "family"? With universal corruption and the sale of the interests of the Motherland to "partners"? He gilded the Kremlin during the Chechen war, abandoning and betraying our sons, slavishly driven into "service to the Motherland" .... I can't dare say that he died, just as I won't turn to say the same about Hitler. hi
                      48. Dull
                        Dull 11 October 2018 13: 00
                        +3
                        Quote: bulvas
                        And this ... How Putin returned oil revenues there, you never said.


                        and you have Khodorkovsky’s demand

                        He was taken from him, but who got it? To the people? laughing
                        Composition of shareholders (holders of shares) of Rosneft PJSC as of October 1, 2018 *

                        Shareholders Number of shares Stake in authorized capital, %
                        JSC ROSNEFTEGAZ1 (shareholder) 5 299
                        BP Rashan Investments Limited /
                        BP Russian Investments Limited (shareholder) 2 092
                        QH Oil Investments LLK /
                        QH Oil Investments LLC (shareholder) 2 006
                        Non-banking credit institution Joint-Stock Company National Settlement Depository (nominal holder central depository) 1 101
                        Other legal entities 61 987
                        Russian Federation represented by the Federal Agency for State Property Management 1 less than 0,01
                        Individuals 36 818
                        Account of unidentified persons 135 less than 397
                        Total 10 598
                        hi
                      49. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 13: 19
                        -8
                        Quote: Dumb
                        He was taken from him, but who got it? To the people?


                        so, what is next?

                        regularly pays taxes, investments (both in money and technology, and lobbying for sales in the markets) are received

                        Khodorkovsky, if you remember, paid nothing
                      50. Dull
                        Dull 11 October 2018 17: 36
                        -1
                        Quote: bulvas
                        so, what is next?

                        regularly pays taxes, investments (both in money and technology, and lobbying for sales in the markets) are received

                        The gang overcame some "frost eaters" in favor of others. Actually, this is called raiding! laughing
                        Quote: bulvas
                        regularly pays taxes

                        And if you check? Is everything so wonderful in the "Cooperative Lake", as we are exposed? Who dares to check for real? Brothers can not be "tickled". Ulyukaev tried to apply the general rule to Bratva and went to study tree species from freshly sawn tree trunks! laughing

                        Quote: bulvas
                        investments (both in money and technology, and lobbying for sales in the markets) were received

                        Under the State Guarantee, if you notice! :))) i.e. under the tax deductions of the poor, including! For Brothers, it’s not worth putting at stake even future benefits for the disabled. Well, do not deprive yourself of the same! laughing
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Khodorkovsky, if you remember, paid nothing

                        As far as I remember, he paid regularly and regularly. Not a single check, with his closeness to the "family", did not reveal a single violation. Problems began when the St. Petersburg Bratva tried to "squeeze" the business out of him, when the checks were no longer fictitious. laughing hi
                      51. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 18: 39
                        -5
                        Quote: Dumb
                        And if you check? Is everything so wonderful in the "Cooperative Lake", as we are exposed? Who dares to really check?



                        I was wondering, where did so many critics come from?

                        They deny everything, and the most obvious thing is that you don’t tell them - everything is untrue, there are no facts and demagoguery has gone

                        Then I realized where they came from - these are Slav brothers from the Outskirts!

                        It’s their style - to talk about any question, to be safe, to ask everything a hundred times until you get tired

                        Their task is so that the truth about Russia does not reach the other brothers of the Slavs, so they clog their brain.


                        And we have those who gladly assent to them and plus / minus
                      52. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 22: 36
                        +2
                        Well, of course, Vasya! How did you solve them then! Ukrainians minus you and criticize it. Can a simple Russian be dissatisfied with reforms to raise prices and taxes? Yes, not a joke! These Ukrainians are jealous that in Russia you can plow for 5 years longer. They would also like, but who will give them?
                      53. maxim947
                        maxim947 11 October 2018 22: 42
                        0
                        Was it standing next to it? he remembers ... you don’t remember and don’t know anything, and you climb with your ignorance where you don’t need to.
                      54. LSA57
                        LSA57 11 October 2018 14: 28
                        -7
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        And this ... How Putin returned oil revenues there, you never said.

                        I will say. Putin should not return anything. if interested, see how much income tax has been paid. also ask how many jobs
                      55. Dull
                        Dull 11 October 2018 17: 42
                        -3
                        Quote: LSA57
                        And this ... How Putin returned oil revenues there, you never said.

                        I will say. Putin should not return anything. if interested, see how much income tax has been paid. also ask how many jobs

                        Income tax on what and by whom? Number of jobs where and for what period? "And now, let's listen to the Head of the Transport Department .." M. Zhvanetsky hi
                      56. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 18: 41
                        -1
                        Quote: Dumb
                        Quote: LSA57
                        And this ... How Putin returned oil revenues there, you never said.

                        I will say. Putin should not return anything. if interested, see how much income tax has been paid. also ask how many jobs

                        Income tax on what and by whom? Number of jobs where and for what period? "And now, let's listen to the Head of the Transport Department .." M. Zhvanetsky hi


                        Incomprehensible, go look for it yourself, you still won’t understand

                        And what do you care about our income taxes?

                        Find out in Ireland




                      57. Dull
                        Dull 13 October 2018 01: 32
                        0
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Incomprehensible, go look for it yourself, you still won’t understand

                        Znatsa, well, there is no way to prove your point of view. True "United Russia"! laughing
                        Quote: bulvas
                        And what do you care about our income taxes?

                        What does a citizen of the Russian Federation care about the amount of taxes in the country whose citizenship he has? You somehow have a logic problem! laughing
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Find out in Ireland

                        What for? I know what taxes I have to pay in Ireland. If I need any help in this matter, then for this there are free consultations with specialists, even online. lol hi
                      58. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 49
                        -8
                        Right now ask lol counterquestion...
                      59. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 48
                        -4
                        If you had ever talked with bandits from the 90s as fist as a simple citizen, you would have already rotted in a damp country somewhere in the forest, and if not, then you were an authoritative person in gang circles ... and then what are you talking about you say! In the 90s, real thieves in law were brought down, blew up in a day .. they were shot together with their wives and mistresses .. they were kidnapped, I don’t understand how you could talk to guys on black mercenaries, in leather jackets and with AKSs on an equal footing ... And if you didn’t talk to them, then why are you writing this? Or, under the guise of bandits, did you mean the ringy Kolka from the neighboring entrance?
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                      61. LSA57
                        LSA57 11 October 2018 13: 16
                        -5
                        Quote: igorka357
                        If you ever talked to bandits from the 90s

                        their memory seems to be short. they don’t even remember what army was. sit on the site and do not see point blank what happened to the army. HER REALLY AFRAID !!!!!
                      62. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 10 October 2018 21: 33
                        +14
                        state budget
                        no money but you hold on.
                        lime oligarchs
                        Are you talking about the Rottenbergs? Timchenko? Vekselberg? Michelson? What do not know such?
                        remove bandits from our lives
                        now the policemen are roofing
                        significantly reduce poverty in the country
                        maybe you don’t have to joke about sad things? ..
                      63. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 10: 53
                        +9
                        bulvas
                        "he managed to get out of the control of the West,
                        return oil revenues to the state budget
                        lime the oligarchs and remove them from the state
                        remove bandits from our lives
                        significantly reduce poverty in the country
                        calm the Caucasus
                        save the country from decay
                        restore power and respect to the army
                        restore the defense industry
                        return Crimea
                        fix the situation in Syria
                        etc. etc."

                        I forgot the most important achievements: 1 - taught the Siberian Cranes to fly, showed them to fly in that direction!
                        2 - found an amphora at the bottom of the sea!
                        3 - flew on Su - 27, Tu - 160!
                        He also sailed in a submarine, and more, and more, and more ...

                        Well, now seriously.
                        IMF said increase retirement age - DONE!
                        There are no fewer oligarchs (only there are more!), Bandits and murderers too (yesterday they announced the murder of an investigator for special cases in the Moscow region) and other "workers of deceived equity holders" are also not decreasing ...
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                      65. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 11 October 2018 09: 25
                        +1
                        What is his betrayal, how did Skripal escape?
                      66. LSA57
                        LSA57 11 October 2018 13: 05
                        -4
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I will answer. As a KGB officer, he betrayed his country.

                        Crimea returned. betrayed ??????? finished the war in the Caucasus, betrayed ?????? handed over debts, betrayed ????? betrayed tagged and drunk !!!!!!!
                      67. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 21: 51
                        +5
                        Quote: bulvas
                        May dancer loves and respects Putin,

                        - US senators and congressmen love and respect Putin,

                        They drum on Putin.
                        Quote: bulvas
                        the leadership of the EU and NATO (or is it not the West for you?) love and respect Putin

                        And that too.
                      68. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 55
                        -2
                        Well, if not on a drum, why then every day ... so the stories from them about Russia and what kind of Putin is terrible huh? Well, yes, now the answer to my question will be in the style of "what other talk from May about Putin" ... ... laughing
                      69. Dull
                        Dull 11 October 2018 17: 49
                        -2
                        Quote: igorka357
                        Well, if not on a drum, why then every day ... so the stories from them about Russia and what kind of Putin is terrible huh? Well, yes, now the answer to my question will be in the style of "what other talk from May about Putin" ... ... laughing

                        Quote: igorka357
                        Well, if not on a drum, why then every day ... so the stories from them about Russia and what kind of Putin is terrible huh? Well, yes, now the answer to my question will be in the style of "what other talk from May about Putin" ... ...

                        "The pans are fighting, the forelocks of the slaves are cracking." "To whom the war, and to whom the Mother Native." Thieves in power share future profits, fighting with the hands and lives of the peoples they enslaved. When the partition is agreed, Putin will become their best friend. Watch less "zombie box" in the morning and before bed. laughing hi
                      70. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 37
                        -4
                        One hundred percent demagogue! When a person can not answer the simplest question, he tries to ... ask someone else!
                      71. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 11 October 2018 06: 30
                        +5
                        Quote: igorka357
                        One hundred percent demagogue!

                        I see demagoguery from you. Not a single fact was brought.
                      72. Svarog
                        Svarog 10 October 2018 20: 47
                        +21
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Try to explain how the Bolsheviks got into such a company.

                        Very simple .. Putin does not differ from those listed by you, from the point of view of ideologists, he professes the same principles and their hatred is just a struggle for a feeding trough .. But Putin’s communists do not digest, because he consistently gets rid of all social obligations to citizens who, it should be noted, were obtained with the blood of their ancestors .. for the fact that it destroyed industry, for the fact that in 18 years the country did not produce competitive production, a product that would be in demand all over the world (weapons do not count this is the achievements of the USSR) well, in the end, I’ve grown so much that I raised the retirement age and simply declared genocide to the country's population ..
                      73. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 21: 04
                        -15
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Very simple .. Putin does not differ from those listed by you, from the point of view of ideologists, he professes the same principles and their hatred is just a struggle for a feeding trough .. But Putin’s communists do not digest, because he consistently gets rid of all social obligations to citizens who, it should be noted, were obtained with the blood of their ancestors ....,



                        something resembles ...., like in Britain, "it is very likely that Russia ...."


                        so, who is preparing the texts for you, nevertheless, communism came to us from there ....


                        as the communists sold themselves to the Anglo-Saxons in the 80s, they remained on their content



                      74. Svarog
                        Svarog 10 October 2018 21: 15
                        +7
                        Quote: bulvas
                        something resembles ...., like in Britain, "it is very likely that Russia ...."


                        so, who is preparing the texts for you, nevertheless, communism came to us from there ....


                        as the communists sold themselves to the Anglo-Saxons in the 80s, they remained on their content

                        You have frankly weak arguments .. that means you still have a conscience ..
                      75. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 21: 25
                        -9
                        Quote: Svarog
                        You have frankly weak arguments .. that means you still have a conscience ..


                        I don't need arguments

                        it’s you here who prove that everything is bad, the country is dying, the power is bad, it is urgent to change

                        I have a conscience, you are lying unscrupulously to those who saw everything with their own eyes and lived at that time


                      76. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 11: 26
                        +3
                        bulvas
                        "who saw everything with his own eyes and lived at that time"

                        Man, I lived at that time and remember very well how a simple worker (at that time) lived for me. And I also remember that our school education at that time was the best in the world. Even the Americans recognized this. Both physicists and mathematicians and nuclear scientists were the best in the world.
                      77. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 12: 04
                        -13
                        Quote: voffchik7691
                        Man, I lived at that time and remember very well how a simple worker (at that time) lived for me.


                        fool
                        to whom do you hang noodles, man

                        do not disgrace with your scribbles
                      78. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 7 November 2018 11: 08
                        0
                        bulvas
                        "to whom are you hanging noodles, man do not disgrace yourself with your scribbles"

                        I don’t hang noodles and shame anyone, I only write about what I personally experienced myself. And hanging noodles is your style of writing about what you don’t know, a victim of liberal propaganda.
                        If you don’t know, look for older people and ask them. Well, if you are for 30 pieces of silver and not for the truth, then God will judge you, these pieces of silver will not do you any good ...
                      79. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 57
                        -7
                        You don’t have them at all!
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                      81. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 57
                        -12
                        Ahhhh ... the USSR was a great power, and .... call me a competitive production with the West .. Africa and Papuan are not counted ... laughing
                      82. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 10: 14
                        +6
                        bulvas
                        "demagogues communists - they hate Putin"

                        Please remind me when, for example, Zyuganov, said that he hates Putin?
                      83. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 35
                        -8
                        Do not argue, Grudinin would have achieved more in half a year than Putin in almost 20 ... he would have raised everyone's pension and lowered taxes .. Only there would be no such country! But there would be independent states of Yakutia, the state of Irkutsk ... and so on and so on .. under the protectorate of someone known, but the princelings licking one place would be "navalnyatagrudinintsy"
                      84. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 09: 25
                        +5
                        Lord! Again, "If not Putin, then who?" "If Putin leaves, Russia will fall apart!" "A strong president is a strong country!
                        "
                      85. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 23
                        -6
                        And the republics are also an order of magnitude!
                      86. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 32
                        -9
                        Only you know about your education, but you can see that you’re the demagogue! You’re trying to ask a person a question in a general way, so that he would have to answer a very long and tedious .. write an entire article to your one question, which it’s natural for him not to do and don’t forget that Russia pays for the USSR’s debts! No matter how diminishing the role of the USSR in the world and in the lives of citizens! And one more very important thing, you should get to know the numbers that go to the budget only from Gazprom and Rosneft, and at least compare them, but not in translation .. otherwise you like to translate everything to the level of those years, but this is not the task .. now it’s 2018, not 1985!
                      87. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 11 October 2018 06: 16
                        +11
                        Quote: igorka357
                        And do not forget that Russia pays for the debts of the USSR!

                        Aw, what a nonsense! I also do not forget that at the same time Russia acquired the entire gold and foreign exchange reserves of the USSR, the Diamond Fund, which was given to the Urals for sale, In addition, Russia acquired all the assets of the USSR and the obligations of other countries to it.
                        Quote: igorka357
                        You should take a look at the numbers and only go to the budget from Gazprom and Rosneft, and at least compare them, but not translate .. otherwise you like to translate everything to the level of those years, but that's not the problem .. now 2018, not 1985!

                        I know what year is in the yard. And you, in your statement, only confirm that Russia has turned into a gas station.
                      88. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 11 October 2018 09: 59
                        +1
                        Darling, would you at least keep track of the information, in 2017, 20 billion US cut paper was sent for export (abroad), and only 15 billion of the same paper weapons. No need to repeat the stupidities expressed in the west.
                      89. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 11 October 2018 10: 41
                        +8
                        Quote: Ros 56
                        Dear, you should at least keep track of information; in 2017, food was sent for export (abroad) to 20 billion US cut paper

                        And spent the purchase of food 28 billions of the same paper.
                      90. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 11 October 2018 08: 12
                        -5
                        But why did the Union collapse and the counters were half empty, if the income was ..... ..... ny.
                      91. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 11 October 2018 09: 36
                        +9
                        Quote: Ros 56
                        But why did the Union collapse and the counters were half empty, if the income was ..... ..... ny.

                        That’s good to ask about it at the Yeltsin Center.
                      92. Ros 56
                        Ros 56 11 October 2018 09: 54
                        0
                        And who was he with us? Incidentally, it was not the first secretary of the CPSU regional committee, which later, like all commies, was repainted as a democrat, if only they would not be removed from the feeder. Well, tell me which of the former secretaries of the district committees, city committees, regional committees, etc. party and Komsomol, remained out of work. Everyone adapted, everyone sat in warm places, though many hard workers even lost their jobs. So there is no need to tell tales about honest party members, it was they who were the first to attack, and then they began to go to special shops, crushed, betrayed their idea. You can lose authority instantly, which happened to them, but as for the opportunity to earn it, I somehow do not see it for 20-30 years.
                      93. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 11: 46
                        +6
                        Ros56
                        "who then, like all commies, was repainted into a democrat, if only they would not be removed from the trough"

                        Who are you talking about? Matvienko, Medvedev, Putin, Sechin, Chubais? It will take a lot of time to list everyone!
                      94. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 11 October 2018 09: 23
                        -3
                        Dear, there is no wheat of the 5th grade, learn the materiel, and control now instead of bread inspection is carried out very, very strictly by three bodies .... and as a percentage, wheat of 5th grade in different regions is completely different, mainly in 3rd place
                      95. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 09: 35
                        +8
                        bulvas
                        "Still, under Soviet rule, the entire USSR, with Kazakhstan, Ukraine did not give as much agricultural products as the Russian Federation now gives."

                        Yes, and precisely because of this, it has been said more than once that flour will rise in price by 40%!

                        "In fact, only welfare swung due to the fall of the ruble, but this is necessary to increase the competitiveness of our goods."

                        This is whose wealth affected? Do members of the government, deputies, oligarchs? No ordinary citizens!
                        About competitiveness, please in more detail! What is it that we sell over the hill besides oil and gas ?!
                        FOR NINE MONTHS of the current year, the outflow of capital has doubled! This is probably the first after oil and gas that we export!
                      96. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 11 October 2018 13: 53
                        0
                        Real communists will have a throat cross over whoever is not against wage labor (exploitation). And to the Russian Communists ... There are now in power those who brought Gorbachev to power and joyfully welcomed the sale of state property and secrets.
                      97. Alf
                        Alf 10 October 2018 15: 21
                        +21
                        Quote: Shurik70
                        EXCEPT PUTIN, NOW ON THE TOP OF THE BEST NO ONE!

                        About the dead Yeltsin, they also said so. But ... suddenly there was a replacement.
                      98. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 00
                        -9
                        How much bitterness in one comment, albeit bad, albeit a lot of trouble done, albeit poorly led the country, but ... a man does not die, he dies! Cattle dies in the barn ...
                      99. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 09: 27
                        +4
                        Cattle in the barn and Yeltsin in a drunken stupor!
                      100. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 09: 52
                        +6
                        Quote: igorka357
                        albeit bad, albeit a lot of trouble done, albeit poorly led the country

                        Let millions die, let collapse and lawlessness all around. Let the war in Chechnya led by corrupt generals. May poverty and hunger. Let the factories and factories close. Let be! But Yeltsin is a MAN!
                        What we have at the moment: Let the VAT be increased. Let the prices of gas and utilities up! Let the work to the grave! Let the oligarchs grow rich and grow fat against the background of impoverishment of the common people. Well, let it, yes?
                      101. voffchik7691
                        voffchik7691 11 October 2018 11: 54
                        +6
                        igorka357
                        "even if he is bad, even if he has done a lot of misfortunes, even if he led the country poorly, but ... a person does not die, he dies!"

                        Even at a time when the current government was kissing the West, they recognized that on the conscience of EBN about 11 million lives of fellow citizens. Continue to love him further! Yes, and by the way, do not forget to put a candle for him in the Yeltsin center!
                      102. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 19
                        -7
                        Yes, and not just no, it’s not even foreseen! There are worthy people, but not the years ... We will wait and see, I think while he will be able to lead, he will, and there he will find a receiver!
                      103. victor50
                        victor50 11 October 2018 07: 38
                        +7
                        Quote: igorka357
                        I think while he will be able to lead, he will, and there he will find a receiver!

                        Yeah! You still say that it was you and found him! laughing He will find it, and you will applaud a new way and consider yourself involved! lol And do not flatter yourself - there are many like you, they will not notice you! laughing (OH, I’m afraid you won’t understand, it’s necessary to decipher the deflectors!)
                      104. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 09: 31
                        +2
                        No, we don’t need another successor. Yeltsin’s successor was enough.
                      105. Alf
                        Alf 11 October 2018 20: 03
                        0
                        Quote: igorka357
                        and there he will find a receiver!

                        Found already. Little by little, stuffing about Shoigu as a successor went.
                      106. sergei ivakih64
                        sergei ivakih64 11 October 2018 14: 34
                        0
                        all right.
                    2. Karabin
                      Karabin 10 October 2018 18: 56
                      +4
                      but as you know, chickens in the fall count

                      And when is autumn? wink
                      1. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 19: 24
                        -7
                        Quote: Karabin
                        but as you know, chickens in the fall count

                        And when is autumn? wink


                        - "Soon the tale will tell, but it won't be done soon"



                        communists led us by the nose, promised a bright future?

                        ask them where they brought the country, what does the current government have to do with it?


                        and in the 2000s, Russia over the past 10 years has changed radically

                        mind you, without the gulags and without party meetings

                        Autumn (harvest) will be when you yourself grow it.

                        Do you think Putin will provide a high standard of living?

                        Learn yourself, find a decent income, and you will be happy.
                      2. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 10 October 2018 19: 52
                        +15
                        promised a bright future
                        And I lived in a bright present. no homeless people, no drug addict, no rear-wheel drive. There was work, free education and medicine. Free movement around the country.
                        Will Putin provide a high standard of living?
                        Well, this is unlikely, you need to take care of the oligarchs, where can you really think of the people.
                        Learn yourself, find decent earnings
                        age is not the one to go to the tax or police.
                      3. bulvas
                        bulvas 10 October 2018 20: 27
                        -12
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        And I lived in a bright present. no homeless people, no drug addict, no rear-wheel drive.


                        really

                        why lie?

                        there are still many who lived at that time, we are not talking about the period of the Second World War

                        except that it was in the world of special distribution centers, special clinics, guards, and gated summer cottages


                      4. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 10 October 2018 21: 28
                        +8
                        special distribution centers, special clinics, guards and indoor cottages
                        AND! So you are talking about today's Russia
                      5. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 01: 22
                        -3
                        Quote: Gardamir
                        special distribution centers, special clinics, guards and indoor cottages
                        AND! So you are talking about today's Russia


                        So you do not know that in Russia there are now many supermarkets for everyone?


                        wake up
                      6. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 11 October 2018 08: 14
                        +7
                        supermarkets
                        say it! And in the USSR they were proud of institutes, hospitals, new free housing ...
                      7. victor50
                        victor50 11 October 2018 07: 43
                        +8
                        Quote: bulvas
                        except that it was in the world of special distribution centers, special clinics, guards, and gated summer cottages

                        Well, if a person has only one goal and meaning, roughly speaking, to devour the sweetest, then, of course, only in this world he will be happy. But the opportunity to get an education is free, of a very high level, CHOOSE !!! work to your liking, to be able to dream and fulfill your dream !? However, what am I talking about and to whom - the main thing is that the feeder be complete! laughing It is because of these that we have today's amazingly pleasant present for you! laughing
                      8. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 11
                        -11
                        And I lived, only time it was without freedom of speech and without the Internet, I don’t think that you have never seen a homeless person in the USSR, and there were almost no more street children than now .. and there were gangs and robberies and maniacs, and LTPs were always out of the question! Just an ordinary citizen going to shift at 6.30, and returning at 20.30 from work, came home, ate a plate of borsch, watched the TV program for a while, and if he had enough strength he did not do SEX (since he The USSR could not be) with my wife! And now I went online and bam ... they killed, they robbed, they stole it, Putin is bad, Navalny is good ... or vice versa, as you like ... and everywhere, Kiselev, echamaskwa, channel 1, and then immediately wait for TV ... that's all, who will lead someone to whose side ...! So don’t treat the youth here as it was divine in the USSR, those who lived there really remember, and the homeless for outside Moscow in the 80th, and Lyubertsy, and Solntsevsky and Kurgan, and Chikatil and pedafilov, and homosexuals .. By the way, the word is from the USSR yet, where did it come from?
                      9. Sergej1972
                        Sergej1972 12 October 2018 09: 54
                        0
                        About going to work at 6.30 and arriving home at 20.30 you are a little bent.)
                  2. igorka357
                    igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 17
                    -11
                    The minuses to your comments only show the essence of VO, and the site is Russian !!! It seems that they are either those who have a year before retirement and are embittered, or the purest provocateurs and enemies of the motherland, not Russia, not the Russian Federation ... namely Homeland ... precisely the enemies of the motherland ...!
                    1. snake
                      snake 11 October 2018 11: 04
                      +3
                      Ololo! "Patriot" got hot. Gosha! You are indignant, like you don't like anti-national laws, but they tell you: - You are against the Motherland !!! Against the Motherland! The Motherland gave you taxes - Pay taxes! Work until you're blue in the face! - No, I don’t want to, I want to live in a country friendly to my people. - And these are the Russians? Are they Russians? I don't understand
                      Quote: igorka357
                      those who were left a year before retirement and they are embittered

                      And what is asked embittered? No, to rejoice. Wow Enemies of the Homeland and Fatherland!
                      1. bulvas
                        bulvas 11 October 2018 11: 18
                        -7
                        Quote: serpent

                        serpent (Sergey)


                        you, many here, are trying to accuse Putin of being "oligarchs", "rich", "yachts", etc.

                        Putin uses large private capital to modernize the country of oligarchs, while not infringing on the freedom of ordinary people, at the same time he allowed people to live and managed to raise their defenses by the necessary time (a coup in Ukraine and the beginning of a new confrontation with the West)

                        For the same purposes, Stalin used the Gulag and the slave labor of prisoners, sharazhki and Yagoda with Yezhov.

                        You were tormented here with Mr. due to the fact that your pension was removed for a year (~ 150) a year, and you would say that if you were forced to buy government bonds for 000 years and sent to the camps, build Sabetta and to develop SMP for soldering and quilted jackets?
                      2. snake
                        snake 11 October 2018 23: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: bulvas
                        you have retired for a year


                        My pension was pushed back for 5 years, my friend, by 5. To be more exact, the pension was not "pushed aside", but in a brazen way it was stolen.
                        Well, thank Putin for not being in the Gulag, thanks! Progress is evident!
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Putin uses large private capital to modernize the country of oligarchs

                        Ahhahahahahahah !!!
                        Quote: bulvas
                        and what would you say if you were forced to buy government bonds for 20 years and sent to camps

                        Well, well, I persuaded. So be it. Since no one drives me to the camps, I will plow in the wild until I die. I just thought that in the West people live somehow better. Even without large reserves of minerals. Well, lang, I keep quiet. And then it will begin now: bulk, sternum, state department and other "enemies of the motherland" ...
                  3. victor50
                    victor50 11 October 2018 07: 30
                    +3
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    -11
                    Or like this:

                    Handsomely! But Mikhalkov was 55 years old to bend and lick better! And you seem to agree that "nobody" ?!
                    Others would be asked - maybe they do not all agree ?! wink
                  4. al.chernota64
                    al.chernota64 12 October 2018 00: 27
                    0
                    I see how they are now minus Putin, how all the dogs are hung on him and I want to ask you citizens with a pre-retirement age (for those who have not yet been born in 90 or sucked a pacifier, please do not enter into discussion) and where you were in 1991 in August, when we all swept our country !!! Our grandfathers and grandmothers defended her, our fathers and mothers restored her,
                    and we pissed it off !!! Something I did not see rallies in support of the Emergency Committee. Led like aborigines on beautiful pebbles. Wanted to live in capitalism? Receive and sign is the question of pensions. They wanted to live in capitalism and pensions, just like socialism doesn’t!
                    I am 54 years old and I want to appeal to you to the citizens of Russia, we have already lost the country once,
                    and don’t you see that now, in the wake of the pension reform, the US is using it for the second time to rock Russia. Who remembers 90 we are still not living badly! In
                    yards do not drive, all cars forced. Yes, it’s hard, we declared war
                    not a hot, but a war, and only a distant person does not see it. This is a fee for independence,
                    for the Crimea. So before blaming others, look carefully in the mirror and maybe you
                    You will see there who is also responsible for everything that is happening now. We already broke firewood once. Let's not repeat the mistakes! PS Who did not understand, Putin is not to blame,
                    and we are with you, and let us correct the situation with a creak.
                    1. reservist
                      reservist 12 October 2018 11: 47
                      0
                      Quote: al.chernota64
                      Yes, it’s hard, we were declared war, not hot, but war, and only a distant person does not see it. This is a payment for independence, for the Crimea.

                      So if we are already at war, then why would someone “endure all the hardships and hardships” in full, while someone sits on the sidelines?
                      the increase in the retirement age divided society into at least three groups: those who do not care about it ("masters of life", civil servants, security officials, the military), those who were hardly affected by this (working for a "gray / black" salary and "running away" from tax) and the largest group that pays taxes and at the expense of which the problems of the whole society are solved ...
                3. Faceless
                  Faceless 10 October 2018 11: 33
                  +8
                  Quote: Snail N9
                  Well ..... or like this:



                  Especially in Germany, with its refugees (with whom the Pope washed his feet in the Vatican), in England, which reached Brexit, in Italy, groaning from anti-Russian sanctions and timidly speaking for the third year about his losses in this regard, in Japan occupied by the Americans ... How cool it is to blurt out something "fundamental" and anti-state without specifics - they will immediately make likes, and after all, everyone will find their truth in these general words.
                  And the fact that these are nothing more than pro-Western anti-state common words against this background will not be noticed by anyone.
                4. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 10 October 2018 11: 37
                  +2
                  laughing Many people during this time managed to change five wives, four cars, change their residence three times, twice their citizenship and did not live poorly at the same time ... All this is not an example to follow! hi
                  1. smart ass
                    smart ass 10 October 2018 12: 01
                    +1
                    I only changed 2 wives
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 10 October 2018 13: 41
                      +8
                      made sense?
                    2. AUL
                      AUL 10 October 2018 14: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: Clever man
                      I only changed 2 wives

                      ..... - only time to lose! Unproductive!
                    3. LSA57
                      LSA57 10 October 2018 15: 05
                      -13
                      Change your homeland. Wife from God. change everything in a row. children have not changed yet :?
                5. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 10 October 2018 11: 40
                  0
                  Many people during this time managed to change five wives, four cars, change their residence three times, twice their citizenship and did not live poorly at the same time ... All this is not an example to follow! hi[/ Quote]
                6. igorbrsv
                  igorbrsv 10 October 2018 11: 45
                  -12
                  . And these countries did not live worse

                  Give me at least one country from your own list where they began to live better in these 18 years. They are all now striding towards the cliff ahead of us.
                  1. BAI
                    BAI 10 October 2018 12: 48
                    +16
                    Give me at least one country from your own list where they began to live better in these 18 years.
                    In any case, they live there better than we do (you can argue about China, but not for long, soon the result will be obvious).
                    1. Andrey VOV
                      Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 13: 15
                      0
                      Have you personally been to China? But not Beijing, Shahai ... but in another China ..?
                      1. reservist
                        reservist 10 October 2018 14: 15
                        +19
                        and will we compare the "other" China with Moscow and St. Petersburg, or with the "other" Russia?
                      2. Andrey VOV
                        Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 14: 59
                        0
                        St. Petersburg and Moscow are not all of Russia, and if we compare the "other" China, which I saw with my own eyes, then with the Urals, our non-black earth ... and, to be honest, I will not flatter China
                      3. reservist
                        reservist 10 October 2018 15: 39
                        0
                        and what do you think, urbanization in China will continue at the same pace as in the last quarter century?
                      4. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 18: 17
                        +1
                        Exactly what not
                      5. reservist
                        reservist 10 October 2018 18: 32
                        -1
                        and what will stop Chinese rural youth from moving to cities? I ask without "jokes", it's really interesting ...
                      6. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 18: 39
                        0
                        For someone to live well, for someone to live poorly
                      7. reservist
                        reservist 10 October 2018 18: 59
                        +1
                        here is the youth from the village and will move from where it’s bad, to where it’s good
                      8. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 21
                        -6
                        So then, the Chinese province will be bent ... you are something contradicting yourself!
                      9. reservist
                        reservist 11 October 2018 11: 37
                        -1
                        our urbanization has passed earlier, the Chinese seem to have not finished yet ...
                        what is the contradiction?
                      10. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 20
                        -2
                        IIIiiiiii attention, the most joke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When the youth fells from the village, the village dies! The wise man buried himself!
                      11. reservist
                        reservist 11 October 2018 11: 43
                        0
                        from the wise guy and hear fool
                        youth in cities brings down a lot in which countries, but not everywhere the village is dying ...
                        if there is normal work for 100 people, and 200 live in the village, then 100 will remain, the rest will be dumped for work ...
                      12. Sergej1972
                        Sergej1972 12 October 2018 10: 08
                        0
                        Many, even if they have a job, will leave for the city. People are attracted to urban lifestyle.
                      13. reservist
                        reservist 12 October 2018 11: 04
                        0
                        Of course, this also takes place
                        but if there is a choice between a city apartment and your house / cottage with a "city" infrastructure /, then with comparable salaries / incomes there will be a "counter" flow of people wishing to move from the city
                      14. Sergej1972
                        Sergej1972 12 October 2018 11: 59
                        0
                        I assure you, the flow will be small. And often, not the former villagers, but urban cranks will go. And comparable salaries are unlikely, with the exception of the suburban zone closest to the city, with a radius of 20-30 km. from the regional center and 10-15 km from a more or less large city of regional subordination.
                      15. reservist
                        reservist 12 October 2018 12: 41
                        0
                        Quote: Sergej1972
                        And comparable salaries are unlikely

                        in our realities, this is more of a fantastic phenomenon than the Stalinist state farm than a real perspective ...
                      16. Sergej1972
                        Sergej1972 12 October 2018 10: 02
                        0
                        As the CCP leadership decides. The party leadership considers accelerated urbanization a boon.
                      17. reservist
                        reservist 12 October 2018 11: 54
                        0
                        whereas as soon as the Chinese "catch up and overtake" us in terms of urbanization, you will have to agree with the thesis from the post at the beginning of the thread
                        Quote: BAI
                        one can argue about China, but not for long, soon the result will be obvious
                      18. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 17
                        -6
                        Come on, compare another China with Novosibirsk, Omsk, Krasnoyarsk, Irkutsk, Bratsk, Ust-Ilim! Or do you want to compare the Chinese city with the village of Gadyukovo in one street?
                      19. reservist
                        reservist 11 October 2018 11: 46
                        +1
                        do not explain, it is logical to compare Moscow with Beijing, the Chinese district center and our district center, etc.
                    2. igorka357
                      igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 19
                      -7
                      So bring it down, and live there better! Or what..there in the head is dumb how to leave? Just poke!
                  2. LSA57
                    LSA57 10 October 2018 14: 15
                    -13
                    Give me at least one country from your own list where they began to live better in these 18 years.

                    Is your refrigerator empty? nothing to eat? or a second car is not enough?
                    1. igorbrsv
                      igorbrsv 10 October 2018 16: 18
                      0
                      And I'm talking about. This is not me whining. I have all the rules.
                    2. Gardamir
                      Gardamir 10 October 2018 17: 48
                      +13
                      or a second car is not enough?
                      the most ineffective manager Ivan the Terrible. With him, finally, there were no cars in the yards. wink
                      1. igorka357
                        igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 23
                        -6
                        Yeah, only in some yards ... they planted on stakes .. laughing I wanted to be smart, I don’t think that you would have exchanged our time for that! There a word blundered about the king, and on the rack at best!
                      2. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 11 October 2018 08: 06
                        +4
                        be smart
                        Putin supporters are clever when comparing the 20th century to the 21st.
                    3. igorka357
                      igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 22
                      -9
                      They wanted to sneeze, Putin himself personally two hundred tyrov per month. not wearing .. so he is a bastard !!!
                  3. lis-ik
                    lis-ik 10 October 2018 20: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: igorbrsv
                    . And these countries did not live worse

                    Give me at least one country from your own list where they began to live better in these 18 years. They are all now striding towards the cliff ahead of us.

                    The Russian potion will not be impoverished ..........., however, as are the roads.
                7. Detective
                  Detective 10 October 2018 12: 03
                  -7
                  At the same time, Germany was finally mired in migrants and a sharp increase in crime. In large cities, there are entire areas where there are no Germans at all! Berlin is the second most Turkish-speaking city after Istanbul. Half of German citizens still have rental housing. Rent, utilities and related expenses more than 20% of total after-tax income. There are 40 tax fees in total. The average family pays about 2 euros per month for a communal apartment and a minimum set of services. The average salary is 000 euros. In general, if you are single, divorced, you will pay about 2% of the salary in the form of taxes and social payments! At the same time, in Germany, a progressive scale is what many here simply dream of! The vaunted German medicine has a level system. The first line is a family doctor, a dentist ... having received a coupon from them, you can actually go to a specialist in a clinic where you immediately remember the Soviet lines and envy them! An ambulance will come only with a clear threat to life. Moreover, there are also two levels of insurance - public and private. Private service is certainly much better at the expense of patients with state insurance! The bureaucracy is terrible - you will pass an examination for obtaining a certificate giving the right to fish ... I will add here the widespread savings since for example heating bills come fabulous. Many Germans are not from the poor who walk around the house in winter in warm clothes. Full payment for everything! Even if you do not have a TV or radio at home, you will pay for them. Toilets are paid even in restaurants. At prices if we compare in rubles, then in Germany meat is more expensive than in Russia by about 500-50 rubles, bread is twice as expensive, candies are 150–200 times, books are 2 times, clothes are 3 times, electronics are about the same. Tell me, what about salaries ?! That is yes. I will answer - and taxes ?! Everywhere good guys where we are not! And that’s all. The snail happened to Germany while Putin, Vladimir Vladimirovich, is in power in Russia! I will add to this the absolutely dependent foreign policy of the FRG and even in some aspects the domestic one!
                  I can also talk about China, I don’t know if I will please ...
                  1. Nasrat
                    Nasrat 10 October 2018 12: 31
                    +3
                    In Germany, there is a tax even for rainwater drainage ... yes, yes !! If you have a roof - be kind enough to pay a tax for the diversion of rainwater - maybe that's why everything is beautiful in Germany, that everything was paid a hundred times?
                  2. reservist
                    reservist 10 October 2018 12: 39
                    +10
                    Quote: Detective
                    Even if you do not have a TV or radio at home, you will pay for them.

                    Germans who disagree with this tax of 20 euros do not pay it in large quantities

                    Toilets are paid even in restaurants.

                    I have never seen a paid toilet in any of the German cafes and eateries ...
                    and yes, public toilets in Europe are usually for money ...
                    1. Detective
                      Detective 10 October 2018 13: 09
                      +3
                      Quote: reservist
                      I have never seen a paid toilet in any of the German cafes and eateries ...

                      Yes, what are you saying ?! Even in McDonald's, paid toilets!)))) Well, for sure (since recently))))))) I can tell you that a toilet at a train station in Munich costs 80 cents. Moreover, in many museums paid not only toilets but also wardrobes from 0,70 to 1 euro. Paid toilets in supermarkets and malls! You probably were still in the GDR ?!)))) In general, the usual rate in Germany for a toilet is 0.50 euros. Paid even in cafes at gas stations the fee will be meticulously calculated from you when paying for the order.
                      1. reservist
                        reservist 10 October 2018 14: 07
                        +8
                        McDonald's and the train station are public places, so no wonder ...
                        Neither in the Museum of the Nuremberg Trials, nor in the BMW Museum, nor in the Technical Museum in Munich, nor in the Museum of Communications in Frankfurt am Main (the rest of the museums, where the household members were then dragged to remember, I cannot remember) additional payments for wardrobe, etc. was not, but for the audio guide either a deposit, or an additional fee to "catch up" to the ticket was definitely ... it was less than four years ago, the GDR did not have time to catch ...
                      2. Maksus
                        Maksus 10 October 2018 21: 07
                        +3
                        You know that after payment you can take a ticket from the vending machine in the toilet and get a discount at the nearest supermarket for the amount of visiting the toilet? At our stations, toilets are also paid, but I didn’t see something there as clean as Germany or Spain. In the cafe, the toilet for visitors is free, as in Paris in the center and in London in Hyde Park.
                  3. Evgeniy667b
                    Evgeniy667b 10 October 2018 13: 09
                    0
                    Igor, and then who is Gabriel De Bella, if not the real chairman of the Russian government? And we think we are independent ???
                    1. igorbrsv
                      igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 14
                      +1
                      I know only the real chairmen. I do not know the unreal
                      1. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 10 October 2018 17: 50
                        0
                        real chairpersons. I do not know the unreal
                        The real chairman of Rosneft, Gerhard Schroeder!
                      2. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 18: 27
                        -2
                        He is not the chairman of the government, but he has a lobby that the president has not pressed yet. Perhaps the president can help and start with them. All the same, it spurred revolution
                  4. igorka357
                    igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 25
                    -4
                    In the hell to them .. Putin is still bad, but in Russia it sucks to live !!!!
                8. Andrey VOV
                  Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 12: 08
                  +1
                  Well, what’s the use of it? It doesn’t mean anything at all ...
                  1. Detective
                    Detective 10 October 2018 12: 47
                    -7
                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    Well, what’s the use of it? It doesn’t mean anything at all ...

                    This is to the fact that in Germany there have already been replaced 2 chancellors while we have one Putin, and in China, as many as three heads of state and the type you have to equal! By the way, ask the Chinese do they have an old-age pension? You will be answered that Chinese pensioners value their relatives more than financial assistance! There is a pension but mainly for officials and employees of state corporations. And in rural areas and small towns, people receive between 8 and 15 US dollars or are generally dependent on relatives. By the way, there is no minimum living wage and no single minimum pension in China! The snail, by the way, is still delighted that so far we have one Putin in America already the 4th president - this is democracy and prosperity! Well, according to official figures in the United States, there are far more than 3 homeless people! This is the result of the lack of affordable housing, the highest levels of poverty and unemployment! In fact, I will add another reason - the authorities stopped financing psychiatric hospitals and most of the patients were simply thrown into the streets! And the authorities just get rid of the dysfunctional areas - they simply demolish houses and that's it! And homeless people are single mothers with children. They flee from the husbands of drug addicts and alcoholics, and most simply face the choice of renting a house or feeding a child! Here it is such a one-story America in which 000 presidents have been replaced while we have one Putin! The snail says ...
                    1. Detective
                      Detective 10 October 2018 14: 03
                      0
                      This I already got 4 minuses for the American homeless ?! Honestly, I'm completely out of business here! Of course, thanks to those who were minuscule for such high confidence, but for all my talents, I can’t act on the American authorities at the moment. As well as the leaders of the Chinese Communist Party who do not want to think not only about their old people, but about the ecology in the country, turning it into a fetid swamp! I also hasten to inform you that I don’t have any dividends with universally paid toilets in Germany!
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 10 October 2018 14: 46
                        -12
                        Quote: Detective
                        +1
                        This I already 4 minus for the American homeless received ?!

                        It flew from the Bolsheviks, it turns them from similar comments
                      2. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 16: 22
                        -11
                        More likely couch revolutionaries
                9. arhPavel
                  arhPavel 10 October 2018 13: 14
                  +3
                  Is it good when temporary workers are in power? Is it good when a country's politics change every 5 years?
                  Why do we need this picture?
                10. region58
                  region58 10 October 2018 18: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: Snail N9
                  Well ..... or like this:

                  Well, right on the first line: how much is Merkel chancellor? From 2005 to this day? And did not change. And Helmut Kohl? From 1982 to 1998 without a break? The trouble is straight. The Germans have no democracy. request They urgently need Maidan ... wassat
                11. igorka357
                  igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 14
                  -9
                  And we began to live worse after 90-00h? Have you forgotten total unemployment, daily shooting on the streets, frowning at EBN's drunken eyes in front of Westerners? Is everything quickly forgotten? Well, forgive me, Putin does not personally bear two hundred thousand salaries to everyone ..!
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 10 October 2018 10: 56
              +17
              Quote: maxim947
              Contribution V.V. It’s hard to overestimate Putin’s development of the country, for something quickly everyone forgot how many of us and the country as a whole were sitting in the ass.

              They forgot it, because we’re sitting in the same ass .. and for 18 years nothing has changed .. more precisely it’s getting worse, but your idol has no conscience, Brezhnev has already surpassed his stay in power .. the oars at the galley can be smeared with honey ..
              1. Andrey Chistyakov
                Andrey Chistyakov 10 October 2018 10: 59
                +9
                Are you interested in everything about Angela? 16 years in power ?! Do not worry? Merkel who ....
                1. maxim947
                  maxim947 10 October 2018 11: 05
                  -7
                  and for 18 years nothing has changed .. more precisely, it’s getting worse

                  If nothing has personally changed for you, then this is purely your personal problems, which means that you were lazy and could not realize yourself. And we are talking about the whole country, and not about your mercantile interests. For example, you can compare the state defense orders of those and today's years, you can compare the monetary allowance of military personnel, the volume of infrastructure construction, agricultural development, etc. just stick your head out of your doghouse sometimes.
                  1. bulvas
                    bulvas 10 October 2018 11: 35
                    +4
                    Quote: Svarog
                    They forgot it, because we’re sitting in the same ass .. and for 18 years nothing has changed .. more precisely it’s getting worse, but your idol has no conscience, Brezhnev has already surpassed his stay in power .. the oars at the galley can be smeared with honey ..



                    Oooo, Svarog, how they launched themselves


                    I have a daughter and husband, they work in a state institution and in an enterprise, they are simple specialists, they have been living in a family for 5 years, they have already bought an apartment on a mortgage, there were always cars, all by ourselves, practically without outside help.
                    They live far from the Moscow Ring Road, in a million-plus city.

                    The son and wife already take the 2nd child from the orphanage and have their own

                    And there are a huge number of such people in the country

                    Can you imagine this in the early 2000s?

                    And under the Communists, can you recall something like that?


                    And the bandits? Remember, if there is still something that was going on then, you cannot take a step without bumping into "brothers"

                    And the roads, airports, the state of cities?

                    How did ordinary people communicate with officials?
                    MFC?

                    Think a bit before you mess something up.
                    1. sabotage
                      sabotage 10 October 2018 20: 04
                      +7
                      Quote: bulvas
                      I have a daughter and husband, they work in a state institution and in an enterprise, they are simple specialists, they have been living in a family for 5 years, they have already bought an apartment on a mortgage, there were always cars, all by ourselves, practically without outside help.
                      They live far from the Moscow Ring Road, in a million-plus city.

                      Winter has passed, summer has come
                      Thanks to Putin for this.

                      In the zero grew all the countries of the world, except Afghanistan, Somalia and other places where there were wars. Moreover, the same Ukraine or Kazakhstan had higher or comparable growth rates.

                      That is, Putin's merit in the growth of the well-being of citizens is not. We change Putin to Nazarbayev and get the best result. And as Tajikistan grew up, Emomali Rahmon is simply a genius of the economy. So?
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 10 October 2018 21: 19
                        +7
                        Quote: sabotage
                        That is, Putin's merit in the growth of the well-being of citizens is not. We change Putin to Nazarbayev and get the best result. And as Tajikistan grew up, Emomali Rahmon is simply a genius of the economy. So?

                        good You will not find the answer to your question with these comrades .. because it is difficult for them .. but Kiselev has not yet informed them how to answer such questions laughing
                  2. AntonP
                    AntonP 10 October 2018 15: 30
                    +16
                    Yeah, dohrena agriculture has developed. In our Krivosheinsky district, before the democrats arrived, there were 7 large state farms (3 left), there was a large timber industry farm, a brick factory, an oil factory and about a dozen more enterprises. And now this is nothing, people are moving away, some to the city, some to the north on duty. Who is better off?
                    1. bulvas
                      bulvas 10 October 2018 15: 43
                      -20
                      Quote: AntonP
                      Yeah, dohrena agriculture has developed. In our Krivosheinsky district, before the democrats arrived, there were 7 large state farms (3 left), there was a large timber industry farm, a brick factory, an oil factory and about a dozen more enterprises. And now this is nothing, people are moving away, some to the city, some to the north on duty. Who is better off?



                      and what was the use of state farms?
                      there were no products in stores, grain was bought from the USA and Canada


                      Now one RF gives more agricultural products than the whole USSR (with Kazakhstan, Ukraine and other republics) gave.

                      Loafers and incompetent workers spawned these state farms and collective farms
                      1. Oleg14774
                        Oleg14774 11 October 2018 08: 36
                        +2
                        The grain is GMO.
                      2. victor50
                        victor50 11 October 2018 12: 21
                        +4
                        Quote: bulvas
                        Now one RF gives more agricultural products than the whole USSR (with Kazakhstan, Ukraine and other republics) gave.

                        Another connoisseur! if it comes to that, then relative well-being, perhaps only in grain. And what do we buy dairy products in Belarus? You wouldn't be propaganda, but would you ask about the real picture? And about idlers ... Apparently, they produced cattle, I know the areas where the livestock of it compared to the times of "idlers and empty stalls" has decreased by 10-11 times. Cool development ?! lol
                  3. victor50
                    victor50 11 October 2018 12: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: maxim947
                    agricultural development, etc. just stick your head out of your doghouse sometimes.

                    To look into your museum? It's you in the kennel - because yapping! But essentially interested in the development of agriculture ... Very ... Chatterbox!
                    1. maxim947
                      maxim947 11 October 2018 22: 53
                      0
                      Okay, this doesn’t concern you, you can keep your head in your ass. All one, the contents are the same.
                      1. victor50
                        victor50 12 October 2018 13: 00
                        -1
                        Quote: maxim947
                        Okay, this doesn’t concern you, you can keep your head in your ass. All one, the contents are the same.

                        I don’t understand, did you yelp or fart now? However ... it stinks the same! As you would expect from a hamla and b-dla!
                      2. maxim947
                        maxim947 12 October 2018 21: 57
                        0
                        However ... it stinks the same!

                        Of course it stinks, you have the same head in the ass.
              2. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 10: 59
                -4
                And what exactly have you changed for the worse in 18 years?
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 10 October 2018 11: 07
                  0
                  Quote: Andrey VOV
                  And what exactly have you changed for the worse in 18 years?

                  Hehe .. the new Communists did not come to power in the elections ... and Svarog to the state. they didn’t let the trough - and it became worse for him to live ... wassat And so he cares for the people ... wassat

                  In the meantime:
                  Imports of cars in Russia over 8 months from the beginning of this year increased by 18,7% to 186,1 thousand cars.

                  In the reporting period, cars worth $ 4 billion 585,4 million were imported into the country. At the same time, in August 23,7 thousand cars were imported (minus 1,4% compared to July of this year) for $ 557,2 million, according to Avtostat with reference to the materials of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation.
                  In January-August, import of trucks decreased by 7,4% to 15,7 thousand vehicles with a total value of $ 1 billion 309,6 million. Of these, 2,6 thousand trucks (plus 0,3% by July) were $ 150 million. delivered to the country in August.
                  Passenger car exports from Russia over the 8 months of 2018 remained at last year's level and amounted to 57,2 thousand units (plus 0,2%) for a total of $ 791,8 million. In August, 6,9 thousand were sent to foreign markets cars (decrease of 2,6% compared to July) by $ 90,8 million.
                  In January-August, export of trucks increased by 3,6% and amounted to 8,4 thousand vehicles by $ 191,4 million. Last year, 1,3 thousand trucks were delivered abroad (an increase of 20,7% compared to July) $ 34,3 million
                  ---------------
                  Question: who bought in Russia 190 thousand imported passenger cars in 8 months ??? Probably the poor ... and this is without taking into account the domestic auto industry ... bully
                  1. sabotage
                    sabotage 10 October 2018 21: 21
                    +3
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Question: who bought in Russia 190 thousand imported passenger cars in 8 months ??? Probably the poor ... and this is without taking into account the domestic auto industry ...

                    190 thousand imported passenger cars))) every 800th resident bought it. This is a definite success. Is this a reason for pride?
                    1. Nasrat
                      Nasrat 11 October 2018 11: 13
                      -1
                      Quote: sabotage
                      Quote: Nasr
                      Question: who bought in Russia 190 thousand imported passenger cars in 8 months ??? Probably the poor ... and this is without taking into account the domestic auto industry ...

                      190 thousand imported passenger cars))) every 800th resident bought it. This is a definite success. Is this a reason for pride?

                      For eight months of this year alone, poor people don’t buy that much ...
                      Well, for beggars, this is a reason for envy! tongue

                      Hehe, and how many pan-legcoles believed in the picture, the one that was the second commentary on the topic !!! Well this is just lovely ... good The experiment was a success !!!
                      1. sabotage
                        sabotage 13 October 2018 10: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Nasr
                        For eight months of this year alone, poor people don’t buy that much ...
                        Well, for beggars, this is a reason for envy!

                        Well, let's take it in 5 years. There will be every hundredth.
                2. Comrade Beria
                  Comrade Beria 10 October 2018 12: 07
                  +6
                  I am 18 years older. sad
              3. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 11: 01
                -4
                Quote: Svarog
                in the same ass and sit

                Speak for yourself. It is correct to say this: "I, who call myself Svarog, sit in the ass" yes

                Quote: Svarog
                ... and for 18 years nothing has changed .. more precisely, it’s getting worse ...

                Under the lying (and even more so - sitting in the pool) Svarog water does not flow. Shevelimsta is necessary, but not to trawl in Internet wink

                Something like this ... "Svarog" laughing
              4. loki565
                loki565 10 October 2018 11: 08
                +3
                Yes, nothing has changed))) there used to be one car in the village and that of the chairman, now in almost every family, or even two. In 90 state employees, they didn’t pay salaries for half a year and you won’t quit work, you lose everything ... Fan blackouts for almost 6 hours every day ... Nothing has changed)))
              5. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 10 October 2018 14: 47
                -10
                Quote: Svarog
                Forgotten, because in the same ass and sit .. and for 18 years nothing has changed .. or rather it’s getting worse,

                Where he lies and does not blush. Regular Paid Troll
              6. Former Russian
                Former Russian 10 October 2018 16: 21
                -9
                Svarog you are just a whiner! You all have something all the time, and tearing the fifth point from the combat sofa and starting to work is not about YOU, you better get the same thing in every thread: retirement age, Putin, everything is gone and everything is bad! Why don’t you indulge in deputies, then before the president, and you will build Great Russia! So that everyone would have enough to retire at 35, but a pension of 5000 euros, etc. In principle, you don’t have to wait for anything, you are just a whiner and a freeloader !!!!
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 10 October 2018 17: 25
                  +9
                  Quote: Former Russian
                  Svarog you are just a whiner! All the time you have something to do, and tear the fifth point from the combat sofa and start working - it's not about YOU,

                  Former Russian .. that’s it all .. all of you here, who are in England, who are in France, Germany, sit and praise our authorities ... you know better over the hill ... your parents took the money out of Russia and continue to rotate there export method ..
                  1. Former Russian
                    Former Russian 11 October 2018 14: 34
                    -4
                    Hahahah you and Sherlock Holmes damn it! I earn money by myself and live for mine, and I don’t look at other people's wallets and pockets! And the toad strangles you that you are a LOSER and a whiner in life! Go sob like everything is bad, but I’ll go better to earn a living and enjoy life! Adios whiner and loser Svarog!
              7. igorka357
                igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 41
                -9
                Seriously, I don’t hear gunfire and explosions, and entrepreneurs don’t get wet a couple of pieces a day! I don’t see that they wouldn’t pay their salaries for half a year, I don’t see how our army is destroyed! hell knows what! I don’t see when a man in jeans levays is something not real! I don’t see the Volga alone driving along the road, and the rest are three pennies! I see the overweight Russians at Mercs and Lexuses, and this is gray, so maybakhs and geliki, Porsche and Maserati, demanding .. more, more .. money, money .. freebies, Putin give five hundred thousand salaries, bring it personally! Putin we worked all our life (as if not for the salary of a nerd) give us a pension of thirty years and retirement every month in a hundred thousand !!!!!!! I damn a tractor driver, and I have a gorgeous Mazda, bought for a salary, saved up, a personal apartment, children are dressed, shod, well fed .. they don’t need anything! Poke a car in the yard there’s nowhere .. there are two cars in the family, every second one! Maybe you smelly whiners will start working more, then you’ll start living well Xia, otherwise you are waiting for the larvae of lice that the government should bring to you !!!
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 11 October 2018 06: 46
                  -3
                  Quote: igorka357
                  igorka357

                  Test trolling, plus. I just didn’t understand one thing -

                  Quote: igorka357
                  ... waiting for lice larvae ...

                  Why "wait for lice larvae"? belay laughing
            3. reservist
              reservist 10 October 2018 11: 04
              +12
              Quote: maxim947
              something quickly everyone forgot what ass many of us and the country as a whole were sitting in

              so we don’t want to go back there ...
              just stupidly raise the retirement age - it’s just to turn the country towards that very ass ...
              1. Victor N
                Victor N 10 October 2018 14: 17
                0
                It is shortsighted to count only on retirement benefits.
                1. reservist
                  reservist 10 October 2018 15: 26
                  +9
                  not only and not so much in the "manual" is the matter ...
                  in the country there are about 70 million jobs, raising the retirement age, adding 5-10 million workers to the labor market, thereby reducing the average level of salaries and the amount of taxes collected from these same salaries, at the same time reducing purchasing power and, accordingly, domestic demand the market ... well, an increase in VAT will certainly improve the situation of industries with long technological chains ... fool
            4. milling machine
              milling machine 10 October 2018 11: 23
              +17
              Quote: maxim947
              The contribution of V.V. It is difficult to overestimate Putin in the development of the country, something quickly forgotten in what ass many of us and the country as a whole were sitting. Many people have too short a memory, or they simply do not have enough brains to soberly compare facts and changes in the country. Yes, now it has become more difficult, for all known reasons, but according to the plans of the "partners" it should have been in "shreds", and so, we are coping with nothing. The country is pursuing an independent policy, Crimea has been returned, all enslaving debts have been paid off, the economy is slowly but progressively developing across all ranges. And all this is very expensive. But now the trend is to blame everything)), and above all the power. Of course, change is needed, but in a calm and peaceful way.

              Under Yeltsin, oil was worth $ 7-10.
              And in Putin's Russia, when the oil price was 40 + - dollars, which was held for six months, the guard was shouted and the budget was cut. I would have looked at Putin's "great lifter from his knees." in. if the oil price is $ 20, three, four years. It would be worse than in the 90s.
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 11: 44
                +1
                And what happened at that price under Yeltsin?
                1. igorka357
                  igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 44
                  -7
                  So it’s not convenient for the milling cutter to recall this ... laughing
            5. yuliatreb
              yuliatreb 10 October 2018 12: 33
              -5
              That's why he occupies this position, so as not to sit idly by as his predecessor you live in which region of the country, and where it lives with you so wonderful, tell us. The merits of Putin as president are not invaluable in foreign policy, and he probably doesn’t have enough time for the domestic one, that his government is impotent because of his global problems, and this is what you listed, especially the last paragraph is just a masterpiece, in this forum you discuss the Levada Center in general not correct, why, no need to explain
              1. Victor N
                Victor N 10 October 2018 14: 24
                +3
                On television, advertising time is very expensive, only very successful companies are able to pay. Fast food advertisements (food for the lazy and ownerless) and feed for cats / dogs (beggars amuse themselves) are in the lead.
              2. Alf
                Alf 10 October 2018 15: 34
                +9
                Quote: yuliatreb
                his government is impotent is his global problems,

                And he did not try to solve them?
                Although, if every year he says, the work of the government is satisfied ...
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            7. Gardamir
              Gardamir 10 October 2018 13: 52
              +9
              what ass were you sitting in
              Now we will go even deeper. Obviously, you do not know about VAT growth and raising the retirement age. And the fact that purchasing demand is declining is not being told to you.
              Crimea returned
              But what is not all of Ukraine?
              Change is of course needed
              Yes, changes have been going on since 1985. It's like living in perpetual repair.
            8. AUL
              AUL 10 October 2018 14: 21
              +16
              Quote: maxim947
              Contribution V.V. It’s hard to overestimate Putin’s development of the country, for something quickly everyone forgot how many of us and the country as a whole were sitting in the ass.

              1945 - 1961
              2000 - 2018
              Feel the difference! (C)
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 15: 08
                -8
                and where is 1945-1999 ???????
              2. igorka357
                igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 48
                -4
                Ahaha ... and this is for you to the opponents of Stalin, they will smash you with the Gulag, executions ... and almost lose in the Second World War .. You just don’t ask them about that! Putin will have them an angel in the flesh compared to Joseph Vissarionovich ! And then when it’s convenient for you, then you stick a question!
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            10. milton
              milton 10 October 2018 18: 55
              +7
              And here is the trend! The authorities declare one thing, then they give up their words, then the renewal of power is again DAM at his post, and the rest have changed their seats, but still at the feeding trough negative
            11. tap
              tap 10 October 2018 21: 19
              +9
              memory short? oil for $ 100 and with that kind of money you still had to sit in your ass? if they were sensibly disposed of, Russia would have long been in the top five. Crimea was returned out of necessity, otherwise American ships would have been stationed in Sevastopol. An independent policy is good. But robbing your own people is not good at all. And it's better not to talk about "shreds" at all. So far, the country is moving in just this direction.
              1. sabotage
                sabotage 10 October 2018 21: 34
                -1
                Quote: zapfen
                Crimea was returned by necessity, otherwise American ships would have stood in Sevastopol.

                What nonsense ??? Why aren't American ships standing in Odessa now? They just made a good face on a bad game: they changed Ukraine in the EAEU to Crimea in the Russian Federation.
            12. basmach
              basmach 10 October 2018 22: 25
              +8
              Personally for MAXIM947. After the default of 1998, the prime minister was not "the great and mighty", but PRIMAKOV. Maslyukov and Gerashchenko (chairman of GOSbank) came to the "company" with him. It was this trio that raked the Augean stables of the "Kinder Surprise" and the EBN. After 9 months, when and only thanks to them, the complete collapse was stopped, came to everything ready, your "savior" of Russia. They laid the foundations for reviving the economy and paying off debts. And also the oil that began to rise in price - if at the end of 98 oil cost 11,43 dollars, then the average price of oil at 99 was already 14 kopecks, in the next 2000 the average annual price was already more than 23. This is - not the "wisdom" of GDP - allowed pay off debts. And also the measures taken by the government of Primakov-Maslyukov-Gerashchenko .. Including the foreign exchange earnings of companies. It is not worth forgetting the not so distant history.
            13. igorka357
              igorka357 11 October 2018 05: 10
              -9
              Yes, the "bulk-breasts" wanted to sneeze at it!
            14. Dull
              Dull 11 October 2018 12: 49
              +1
              Quote: maxim947
              Contribution V.V. It’s hard to overestimate Putin’s development of the country, for something quickly everyone forgot how many of us and the country as a whole were sitting in the ass. The memory is too short for many, or just the brains are not enough to soberly compare the facts and changes in the country.


              Subduing the rebellious oligarchs for yourself and concentrating all cash flows on yourself do you consider an achievement for the people? In this, the interests of the population and the Bratva converged, as well as strengthening the country's defense capability. For the rest, the robbery of the poor and the increase in the welfare of the "new masters" continued, with the adaptation of legislation to the interests of thieves in power and in power. That's all the "achievements", in short.
              Quote: maxim947
              The country is pursuing an independent policy, Crimea has been returned, all bonded debts have been paid off, a slow but progressive development of the economy is ongoing across all spectra

              Booming economies or rising oil prices? laughing
              Quote: maxim947
              Change is of course necessary, but in a calm and peaceful way

              After the old people, the unemployed, the disabled, and so on, the "drones on the necks of the Brotherhood," have died of starvation, and for the rest will Serfdom be introduced? laughing hi
          2. Shkiper
            Shkiper 10 October 2018 14: 31
            -1
            And these times are just around the corner.
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            1. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 23
              -1
              Another glass? laughing drinks
          4. kutuz
            kutuz 12 October 2018 06: 58
            0
            The annexation of Crimea and, as a result, the severance of relations with the whole world, the massacre of Chechens and the fact of a lost war (Russia still pays tribute), the war in the Donbass and, as a result, the final loss of Ukraine - and everything else is in order.
            1. reservist
              reservist 12 October 2018 12: 29
              +1
              Quote: kutuz
              Aneksia Crimea

              vossociation Crimea

              and as a result, a break in relations with the whole world,

              Something this summer during the World Cup on football in Red Square came in large numbers from all over the planet - not to push through ... probably because of the "break in relations" ...

              massacre of Chechens

              before starting about the Chechens, let's first talk about the massacres of Russians and not only under Dudaev ...

              and in fact a lost war (Russia still pays tribute),

              decide first, Chechnya finally withdrew from the Russian Federation or not?
              and yes, Russia pays tribute to many people ...


              war in the Donbass and as a result the final loss of Ukraine

              the war is already over and can we sum up?

              - and the rest is all right.

              Well, from abroad it’s more visible ...
      2. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 10 October 2018 10: 43
        +3
        How many oil did you have in the 90s? Do not be shy...
      3. Anchonsha
        Anchonsha 10 October 2018 11: 17
        -5
        It's you, dear, confusing something. Rummage through the statistics of the state of Alaska. From oil and gas revenues, distribution occurs throughout Russia. Do not forget that the collapse of the Soviet Union in 18 years, you can not recreate the country's economy, if you now have in mind a concern for three cars, then why not talk about it. Two is enough for you. Now you, if, of course, not from a 5-pillar, are dissatisfied with the GDP because it did not do enough for you and did not spread rot at the same time under the sanction pressure of the West on our country, then first think about who you will replace the country's leaders in order not to be in the 90s. Only the West no longer puts Russia at rest, but will try to break up like Ukraine.
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 10 October 2018 12: 15
          -3
          Quote: Anchonsha
          .Only the West is not about leaving Russia alone, but will try to ruin it like Ukraine.

          never. strong Germany is not needed besides Germany
      4. Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ratmir_Ryazan 10 October 2018 11: 22
        0
        Only Rosneft and Gazprom pay more than 3 trillion rubles to the federal budget (the entire budget is 15 trillion rubles in revenue) ...
        And it was thanks to Putin that oil and gas assets (and not only) were returned to state ownership again, as it was with Yukos, Bashneft, Gazprom and Sakhalin Energy projects ...
        And $ 1600 in the United States is not enough even to make a seal for ONE tooth, even with insurance. At the same time, in the United States income tax is 35%, a tax on a residential building is 150 square meters. about 5000 meters a year, not including a communal apartment of $ 400 a month, there are taxes on personal property and everything else ...
        Don `t cry...
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 10 October 2018 21: 22
          +6
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          only Rosneft and Gazprom pay more than 3 trillion rubles to the federal budget (the entire budget is 15 trillion rubles in revenue) ...

          And if you nationalize them, then 15 trillion .. only the state would have had them .. Or, what, the state will not be able to extract and sell oil? laughing
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 54
            -8
            Oooh, everything is clear with you .. you are somehow very far from the topic! You would be just .. "give-give-give", but maintain and serve ...?
      5. Nasrat
        Nasrat 10 October 2018 11: 29
        +19
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: Svarog
        No wonder .. what is surprising is that after all that he has done, in general someone has supported him. 18 years .. and there is enough conscience among people ..


        So, payments do take place and are made annually. True, everything is not so simple. The entire process is organized and implemented by the Alaska Permanent Fund, which was established in 1976 by Jay Hammond, the state governor. Every year, the fund allows up to 25 percent of profits from oil sales to social payments to the population.
        As usual, the devil is in the details.

        The first one. Money is not paid directly to residents of Alaska, but is credited to a savings account in a particular bank, about which the lucky person is notified by official letter. This money cannot be cashed, and you can spend it on strictly agreed goals. For example, they can partially pay for college, transfer to retirement bank savings, pay for gasoline at a gas station, or buy a ticket for a trip within the country. That's all.
        The second one. Not everyone can receive such a payment. Preference is given exclusively to permanent residents of the state who have lived there for at least a year, and have also stated in writing their intention to remain in permanent residence in the future. Payments are not allowed to convicted citizens, which in a state where alcoholism is officially recognized as a fundamental problem dramatically reduces the number of people who receive a bank letter.
        The third. Payments in terms of their volumes are extremely uneven and highly dependent on the situation of world financial markets and fluctuations in oil prices over the past five years. For example, according to the official website of the fund, payments in recent years amounted to:

        • 2011 - 1174 dollars;
        • 2012 - $ 878;
        • 2013 - $ 900;
        • 2014 - 1884 dollars;
        • 2015 - $ 2072.

        Let's try to figure out whether it is a lot or a little from the point of view of the Americans themselves and in relation to their standard of living and income.
        Alaska, according to the American Bureau of Statistics, has a solid fourth place in terms of income (Median Household Income), second only to Maryland, Hawaii and the District of Columbia. On average, one family in Alaska earned $ 2017 in 73, which means an average monthly income of about $ 335. Accordingly, a one-time payment of $ 6100 will give a monthly increase of $ 2072, that is, 172%. Not much.

        Let us analyze how much this will help the average Alaskan family, using the example of long-suffering gasoline, the prices for which do not go down from the press. At the time of this writing, the average cost of a gallon of gasoline (3,8 liters) in Alaska is $ 3,4, or 211 rubles 32 kopecks. So, the cost of a liter of gasoline is 55 rubles 61 kopecks. A family can use the money to buy 50,6 gallons, or 190 liters of gasoline, conditionally - about five full tanks of an average sedan. Nice little thing.
        . I must say that the fund never hid: payments are aimed solely at increasing the state’s population, which, however, doesn’t help much. With a total population of Alaska in 738 432 people ..... once again I will write 738 432 people .... in the Tyumen region. lives twice as much ...
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        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 10 October 2018 12: 07
          +4
          Unfortunately, such details are of little interest to fasting pictures about sweet life. They are not comfortable, because destroy the good picture of life abroad.
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 10 October 2018 12: 21
          -2
          and to whom to prove something? Well, hating such Russia. they take away yachts, cottages, everything and everything. and still it will not be enough. earn brains is not enough
        3. igorka357
          igorka357 11 October 2018 06: 56
          -8
          No one cares, Putin is bad, leave or give a salary of two hundred thousand, then you will be good! The whole point is "vseplohounasvseprosralputin" ..!
        4. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 12 October 2018 12: 28
          0
          In the Tyumen region 3 million 700 thousand. Twice more than in the Tyumen region (1 million 400 thousand) lives in the so-called southern regions of the Tyumen region, that is, in the Tyumen region without the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and YaNAO. Although it is not on the topic, but the "nesting" crap is time to finish. Or to single out the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug as subjects of the federation truly separate from the Tyumen Region, preferably not (pseudo) national. Maybe even uniting them in some Surgut region. Or, conversely, to split the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug into 7-8 parts and make their territories completely subordinate to the Tyumen Region. Only in the Russian Federation there is such an administrative anomaly as a subject of a federation within another subject of the federation.
      6. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 10 October 2018 11: 29
        +8
        what For the year 1600, $ 133 a month is somehow not so hot for the United States
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 10 October 2018 18: 45
          0
          Apparently therefore, whiners do not go there
      7. Faceless
        Faceless 10 October 2018 11: 29
        -8
        The Levada Center, given its frankly pro-Western orientation and the fulfillment of the functions of a foreign agent, is generally difficult to reproach for sympathy for anything good in the Russian Federation. At the same time, his studies still contain some semblance of objectivity, especially when comparing some other agencies with “analytics” in this area.

        In general, any ratings are essentially costly mischief, increasing their relevance in politics - before the election, in other areas - permanently in sales and services. It’s like a weather forecast: today it’s raining, tomorrow it’s sun. The rain has moved forward tomorrow from today - well what to do, then the sun will be the day after tomorrow or vice versa.

        It seems that any statesman, unlike a politician, should pay very little attention to any such ratings, unless this is devoid of practical meaning (elections), which Vladimir Putin, on the whole, does. Let me remind you that a politician plans his activities and lives from elections to elections, and a statesman thinks about the future in the long term.

        The reason for the low attention to ratings is simple: any decision will always have dissent. Plus there is a whole galaxy of decisions that will always be unpopular, which is obvious. Raising taxes, slowing down wage growth, abolishing benefits, raising the retirement age, increasing the length of military service in the army, etc. - always unpopular measures. This is an axiom. The child will always be unhappy when they give him a bitter pill, but he does not think that he will soon recover from it. This is, in short, about ratings. In addition, I am silent about the sampling methods that are used in compiling a rating. Conduct a survey on the issues of providing the population with preferential medicines among schoolchildren and among pensioners, and then compare the result and assess the importance of the nuances of the population sample for the survey, as well as the impact of sample quality on the outcome.

        Another thing is surprising in the article. About the burning topic of pension reform ... Do we have other issues in the country as a whole and in the Stavropol Territory in particular? Should our President discuss pension reform every day at each of his meetings, or is it, for example, not worth it with the Indians and Iranians? Of course, the extremely unsuccessful informational component of this reform played its role in the ranking. I will say even more: the reform itself is not so unsuccessful as its coverage in the media (and this, it is very sad, I must say). But how much can be set as the only duty of the President - the implementation of pension reform? Other events in the world do not occur?

        Sarcasm about dinner is not at all appropriate. Similar events have been taking place since 2000, and there is nothing wrong, outstanding, or propaganda in that simple Russian products were served for the president for lunch; there are no Russian-grown products. When B.N. Yeltsin a couple of times in his entire life rode a trolley bus and went to the general clinic once - yes, something unusual could be fished out of this. Here - everything is as always, I would say - as expected, and there is certainly no food for sarcasm. And this event has no influence on the rating at all.

        In conclusion, I will express the following thought: for general development, of course, it is possible to observe political ratings (bearing in mind the degree of their errors), but it is silly to take them seriously. Firstly, by and large they don’t influence in any country in the world, and secondly, Vladimir Putin has a whole galaxy of measures and decisions, some of which are very ripe in the near term, which last week and the previous positions will be returned to him, and the strategic development of the state will have a beneficial effect, as if the liberals did not want otherwise.

        PS Frankly tired of reading absolutely incompetent lay-outs of lights about how it was necessary to carry out pension reform. Hedgehog it is clear that they would have been satisfied with a pension unless immediately after school, and in a substantial amount. Some people just want to give practical advice: if you are so smart, go to the civil service, rise to an adequate position and offer your own ways to develop the state as a whole, and social security in particular. But why bother so, if you can always just criticize, without offering anything adequate in return? The same applies to connoisseurs who like to compare, having torn privileges and salaries abroad from our general regulation, and here ... ... forgetting about taxes, the total cost of living standards and many other irrelevant trifles. But the numbers are colorful.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 10 October 2018 19: 13
          +7
          The Levada Center, given its frankly pro-Western orientation and the fulfillment of the functions of a foreign agent, is generally difficult to reproach for sympathy for anything good in the Russian Federation.

          VTsIOM showed 36,8% of Putin. Does VTsIOM have an even more Western orientation?
      8. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 11: 36
        -6
        How many inhabitants in that Alaska? How developed is the infrastructure? If the inhabitants of our oil regions, where one and a half people per square. kilometer left all the income from the bowels of themselves would they live worse? And then you would have generally canceled a pension and not only
      9. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 10 October 2018 11: 51
        +4
        Let me doubt that each resident of Alaska in 2018 received $ 1600 on a card or in cash. Most likely this figure is obtained by dividing the amount of the state budget from oil production by the number of state residents. And if we make similar calculations for our country, we will receive an amount of $ 37700.

        There is no VAT in the USA. Yes, and Trump reduced the tax rate from 35% to 21%. But this is what is in large text in the headlines. But few people mentioned that together with the reduction of the tax rate, all privileges reducing this rate were canceled. And since thanks to these benefits almost no one paid the full rate. That in fact turned up.
        And the retirement age in the USA is 66 years for both sexes.
        1. Faceless
          Faceless 11 October 2018 09: 38
          -4
          I’ll add that not all countries of the world have pensions at all (universal) God with him, with Afghanistan and Thailand, but even in China there are no pensions for everyone. If you are a peasant or businessman, survive as you want. If you want a pension, go to the civil service. And our people, frankly, do not value good in their mass. The very fact of having free medicine, free education, pensions is no longer a small social achievement. And maternal capital is generally our invention.

          Here I read the cries of many constantly from the series "how bad everything is." In the USA, there is no free medicine. "If you have money - you live, there is no money - die and do not bother those who have money to live" - ​​the most accurate motto of the US existence. By the way, there is no free sports there either. None and not for anyone. You can't become an athlete without a sponsor. No way.
          Many people like to talk about mat capital (as an example): they don’t spend a lot, they don’t spend normally, there are a lot of restrictions) Only these many people forget that the whole world lives without it - and there’s nothing to discuss and complain about in this matter.

          More from the social sphere: unemployment benefits have been raised 2 (!) Times recently. The reaction is sheer discontent. "You can't live on this money." - And what did they want, sit on the neck of the state and have 100 a month at the expense of the workers? Or, as in Germany: the total benefit + benefits of the unemployed are higher than the postman's salary - taxes? About the German refugees, full support without obligations to work - generally keep quiet.

          The conclusion, alas, is simple. For the most part, all good things are taken for granted, with complaints that it’s not enough, and all bad things are perceived as separate, abstracted from the general picture, and even compared with the same isolated foreign paintings. And always so that the Russian Federation looked flawed.

          For many commentators and most journalists, this is precisely the logic. It is understandable: this is easier than understanding the problem and suggesting an alternative, constructive way. In this case, you will have to think and work. And in order to hysteria that everything is bad, a thinker is not needed - only emotions and an anti-state position.
      10. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 10 October 2018 12: 54
        +14
        Among my friends there are no multibillionaires, so no one trusts Putin or Medvedev!
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 26
          -3
          And here I am in the Forbes list lol
      11. IvanT
        IvanT 11 October 2018 09: 24
        0
        Bots plus)))
      12. trenkkvaz
        trenkkvaz 11 October 2018 12: 22
        -2
        And Alaska, that we already have a separate state?
        Tell me how much does every US citizen get from US oil production?
        Will not say.
        So do not compare horseradish with your finger for your political tricks.
      13. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 12 October 2018 09: 32
        0
        It is necessary to compare either what the residents of the USA and the Russian Federation received from oil revenues, or the inhabitants of Alaska and, say, the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug.
    2. Logall
      Logall 10 October 2018 10: 29
      +3
      Vladimir, people just don’t see an alternative ...

      By the end of this year (at the beginning of December) a bill on the death tax will be submitted to the Duma ... They cannot limit themselves to a "decent" old age, they want to bury them "with dignity".

      In the meantime, this:
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 10 October 2018 10: 47
        -1
        Quote: Logall
        Vladimir, people just don’t see an alternative ...

        By the end of this year (at the beginning of December) a bill on the death tax will be submitted to the Duma ... They cannot limit themselves to a "decent" old age, they want to bury them "with dignity".

        In the meantime, this:

        Strong movie! But where will the rally be, only in Moscow? And there will be no alternative .. the government does everything so that it doesn’t exist ..
        1. Logall
          Logall 10 October 2018 10: 52
          +2
          It is planned as an all-Russian, but far from everywhere they will be able to spend ..

          People, for some reason, do not want to go to them. In Elektrostal, in late August, a rally gathered a couple of hundred people. I asked friends: - why didn’t you go?
          The answer was: "-not once"
          Then there will be no time to sit with his grandchildren - at work and in the coffin.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 10 October 2018 11: 00
            +6
            Quote: Logall
            It is planned as an all-Russian, but far from everywhere they will be able to spend ..

            People, for some reason, do not want to go to them. In Elektrostal, in late August, a rally gathered a couple of hundred people. I asked friends: - why didn’t you go?
            The answer was: "-not once"
            Then there will be no time to sit with his grandchildren - at work and in the coffin.

            I also never went, but if we have, I’ll go .. Only here is little information, where, when ..
            1. Anchonsha
              Anchonsha 10 October 2018 11: 28
              -10
              I don’t want to insult, but do not sit on the couch, so that your bridges do not fall, so that there are hospitals that need to be demanded locally from the authorities. Indeed, Putin alone will not do it to you, if you look into his mouth, but do nothing yourself. Stalin needs you to plow for fear of a slice of bread out of fear. You yourself can only whine. Pension reform must be carried out so as not to be left with nothing. Do not understand why in the West all countries have been raised to 70 years? Yes, because there are a lot of old people and they cannot afford to be supported by those who work.
              1. Alexander Galaktionov
                Alexander Galaktionov 10 October 2018 11: 52
                +9
                What are we to the west? And if everyone in the west will jump from the roofs, what should we also jump laughing Here it is all about the economic bloc of the government, which, instead of improving the lives of citizens, does everything to worsen it!
              2. reservist
                reservist 10 October 2018 12: 54
                +5
                Quote: Anchonsha
                in the West, all countries raised to 70 years?

                so "everyone" ... in Germany, they once again raise from 65 to 67 ...
                will we compare life expectancy?
                1. Former Russian
                  Former Russian 10 October 2018 16: 37
                  -10
                  Quote: reservist
                  will we compare life expectancy?

                  And who shortens your life expectancy? Maybe you don’t need to drink, smoke, etc., what does the power have to do with life expectancy, if we smoke 75% of boys and% 50-55 girls from a young age, if you go to school during a break you will be surprised how schoolchildren drink alcohol, smoke nonsense (spice), etc.! What does power have to do with it? Maybe they themselves are still to blame for not surviving to 60-70? Maybe the government should monitor your health, send you to the hospital on time? You owe something to everyone, but you yourself don’t even want to take care of your health, the health of your children!
                  1. reservist
                    reservist 10 October 2018 16: 58
                    +7
                    Quote: Former Russian
                    what does the power ...

                    the power of medicine on our taxes contains ...


                    ... you yourself don’t even want to take care of your health, the health of your children!

                    I don’t understand how such a "fundamental" conclusion was made?
                    in absentia, even without meeting my children ...
                  2. reservist
                    reservist 10 October 2018 17: 48
                    +8
                    Quote: Former Russian
                    Maybe they themselves are still to blame for not surviving to 60-70?

                    and let's talk about those who do not drink, smoke and do not "etc." and still lives up to 60-70 ...
                    what is the ratio between the years when a person worked and paid taxes and the "life span" between us and the Germans? A German burgher will retire at 67, and live to 80 years, in our country - at 65, and if he does not drink or smoke, then he will live up to a little over 70 ... maybe it’s not only harmful habits, but also in the current norms for food and the level of medicine?
                    1. Former Russian
                      Former Russian 11 October 2018 14: 37
                      -4
                      So get yourself a garden and farm and not noah! I have 20 sheep, 3 bulls, rabbits, geese, ducks and pheasants, and I eat very well, normal products from my garden and garden! And if you can’t eat what they sell and don’t! And damn it all you all must!
                      1. reservist
                        reservist 11 October 2018 14: 44
                        +2
                        Quote: Former Russian
                        So get yourself a garden and farm and not noah!

                        do not tell others what to do and do not hear where you go ...

                        I have 20 rams,

                        badly counted, at least one more

                        ... And then damn it all all owe you!

                        finally guessed !!!
                        imho, for my taxes they really owe me ...
                      2. Sergej1972
                        Sergej1972 12 October 2018 12: 03
                        +1
                        "don't tell others what to do and you won't hear where you go." Favorite phrase of boors from social networks. Naturally, I do not include you in this category. But in real life there are a lot of situations when we tell others what to do, and we are told. This is life.
                      3. reservist
                        reservist 12 October 2018 12: 52
                        0
                        society has long gone from subsistence farming and uses the specialization of labor, therefore, advice to start a garden, sheep and pheasants and stop whining is tantamount to banal ...
                      4. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 12 October 2018 17: 09
                        0
                        Well then do not whine that the products are bad, valuable are high and stuff like that! To grow this for you trolling for you?)))) Well then, hello to the chemicals))), growth harmonics and all the rest of chemistry! So hello cancer and all sorts of other sores, and what does power have to do with your health? If you yourself are reluctant to provide yourself with normal food and you consider such proposals as trolling?
                      5. reservist
                        reservist 12 October 2018 18: 32
                        0
                        from wiki
                        trolling - placing provocative messages on virtual communication resources in order to escalate a conflict situation by violating the rules of the code of ethics for Internet interaction
                      6. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 13 October 2018 12: 23
                        0
                        What does trolling have to do with it? It was written to you that if you want to eat normally, start a small household, you started to hint that I’m a ram))), but you still didn’t understand that YOU'RE BAR !!! I provided myself with food for a minimum of a year, and you will eat what they sell to you and from what muck it is grown you will not even recognize))), so of the two of us you are rams and people like you!)))) Chew and not cry children asphalt!
                      7. reservist
                        reservist 15 October 2018 11: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Former Russian
                        What does trolling have to do with it?

                        everything is painted above ...
                      8. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 12 October 2018 17: 05
                        0
                        Of course, if you count it will be 21!)))
                      9. reservist
                        reservist 12 October 2018 18: 34
                        0
                        it was about you and your rams
                        see above about trolling ...
                      10. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 13 October 2018 12: 17
                        0
                        Well, how did you eat chemical meat and Egyptian potato? Lazy person!
                      11. reservist
                        reservist 15 October 2018 11: 13
                        0
                        Quote: Former Russian
                        Lazy person!

                        troll
        2. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 11: 01
          -8
          Is it really Putin who is to blame for the fact that hospitals are falling apart? The bridge fell — Putin, something burned down Putin — why don't they say in other countries if some garbage happens, oh, is it all Merkel or Lukashenko is to blame ..
          1. tomket
            tomket 10 October 2018 11: 49
            +18
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            The bridge fell-Putin, something burned-Putin? Why in other countries if some garbage happens they don’t say, oh, it's all Merkel or LUkashenko is to blame ..

            Well, probably because something positive is happening, Putin appears everywhere in the picture)
        3. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 10 October 2018 12: 58
          +1
          The video is certainly strong, only doctors have become morocco. No responsiveness at all
      2. Snail N9
        Snail N9 10 October 2018 10: 57
        +8
        By the end of this year (at the beginning of December) a bill on the death tax will be submitted to the Duma ... They cannot limit themselves to a "decent" old age, they want to bury them "with dignity".

        There is also "compulsory insurance" of movable and immovable property "on the way" .... As well as "insurance" of life, otherwise the state has to go broke for a house for the funeral of the lonely ... winked
      3. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 11: 06
        -6
        I recognize the familiar hand of the video)))) one question. Under the USSR, there was no oncological center in my city; there was no huge universal center. There was no center for vascular surgery .. And now there is ... But ordinary hospitals both worked and still work ... All this is somehow strange.
        1. AntonP
          AntonP 10 October 2018 15: 46
          +4
          If the USSR had not collapsed, there would have been both the first and second and third
      4. Alex DHG
        Alex DHG 10 October 2018 11: 14
        +7
        Svarog, this is a new hospital in my city
        1. Alexander Galaktionov
          Alexander Galaktionov 10 October 2018 11: 32
          +9
          If you look at the site Done with us! There is some optimism But they interrupt all prices, they grow and salaries are gone
          1. tomket
            tomket 10 October 2018 11: 52
            +10
            Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
            pymism is But they interrupt all prices, they grow and wages are not

            How are prices going up? We have practically no inflation! We have the entire Min. Finance breast beats with her! What are you thinking about prices? Are you a disgruntled Ukrainian? Or agent of the State Department?)
            1. Alexander Galaktionov
              Alexander Galaktionov 10 October 2018 11: 55
              +3
              State Department agents - the economic bloc of the government, along with Medvedev and his party
        2. tomket
          tomket 10 October 2018 11: 51
          +2
          Quote: Alex DHG
          This is a new hospital in my city

          By the way, recently the news was that the mortality rate in the new prenatal centers has increased due to something and it is necessary to pay close attention to this fact.
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 12: 16
            +2
            The explanation for this is given, in such centers the bulk of pregnant women and women in childbirth who have health problems, with childbearing, with other serious illnesses in utero enter .. in ordinary maternity hospitals they try not to take such women in labor .. and as a result, such indicators, medicine is not omnipotent alas ..
          2. Servisinzhener
            Servisinzhener 10 October 2018 12: 35
            +3
            The prenatal center is not an ordinary maternity hospital. Trouble-free is not sent there, hence such statistics.
            1. Alex DHG
              Alex DHG 10 October 2018 13: 32
              +1
              For reference: they closed the old hospital, now there is a city clinic at the Central Hospital. All give birth exclusively in the new Perinatal Center.
          3. Alex DHG
            Alex DHG 10 October 2018 13: 33
            +2
            If it’s not difficult for you, please share a link. It is interesting to take a look.
      5. DenZ
        DenZ 10 October 2018 11: 33
        +4
        Quote: Logall
        In the meantime, this
        This is now visible from my office window. The hospital has long been abandoned and no one will restore it. so what is there to fuss about. A deserted woman in the country of dofiga, and public health in Yekaterinburg (I am not afraid of this word) is perhaps the best in the Urals. So there are no reasons for oh-oh-ahs No! (at least from this video)
    3. kjhg
      kjhg 10 October 2018 10: 30
      +7
      Quote: Svarog
      and people have enough conscience ..

      Conscience is enough for those who are well attached to the feeding trough, and the vast majority of this amount lacks what people should think. When people who support Putin are asked why, they are repeating the words that they hear about the zombies. They cannot say a single word from themselves. You start to ask uncomfortable questions, so they immediately begin to crumble, like children.
      1. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 11: 52
        +1
        Why? They listed you just look above and the photo resulted.
      2. tatra
        tatra 10 October 2018 14: 10
        +5
        The enemies of the Communists in general, and Putinoids, in particular, are not capable of discussing anything honestly, adequately, objectively, as citizens of their country who want good to her and their people.
        Here are honest people and true patriots of the country and people on the territory of the USSR FOR Lenin and Stalin, because they CREATED THE BEST for the majority of the people, and a developed and social State.
        And for many years putinoids have only shamanic incantations for many years "yes, you remember what happened in the 90s," "yes, Putin is clearing up." None of them is able to prove and substantiate what is most important in the work of the head of the State - what kind of power he created or retained - officials, the System, the economy. And none of them is able to prove that this and these are under Putin, and with what and by whom he will leave the country and the people as a good for Russia and the people.
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 10 October 2018 15: 15
          -1
          Does this mean that Putin is even to blame for not trying to recreate the USSR, or that there is no trust in the communists?
        2. Former Russian
          Former Russian 10 October 2018 16: 49
          -6
          Well, of course, the Communists are the best!))) And who drove the country in the late 80s-90s? Not communists? Who is sitting in the Duma, etc., are not the former communists and their children? Who at the collapse of the USSR tore and steal, are not the Communists? I know that you will answer: These are all democrats, liberals, etc. .. But no - communist leaders did all this! There are examples from the personal life and life of the city where he lived most of his life. And if you recall the story from 1917, then I generally would have hung komunyak on every corner! How many people have you ruined as enemies of the people, kulaks, peasants (who did not want to be on the collective farm), intelligentsia, etc. You do not like to remember this, but it is a fact! You komunyaki are the first informers at each other, you can’t get used to getting on your heads and blood, people aren’t getting used to spread rot on you! In the entire history of the USSR, the best years were the 60s-80s, then darkness, you betrayed your ideals to the communes, betrayed the peoples of the whole USSR who believed in you and trusted! So now live under capitalism and breathe evenly. They will no longer let you go to power!
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 10 October 2018 17: 28
            +7
            Quote: Former Russian
            Well, of course, the Communists are the best!))) And who drove the country in the late 80s-90s?

            These are the former Russians who drove .. along with the traitors who are still in power ..
            1. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 10 October 2018 18: 50
              -1
              These were not former Russians, but traitors who drove
            2. Former Russian
              Former Russian 11 October 2018 14: 45
              -4
              Svarog you go someone else's money is better to consider and envy silently! But the union was destroyed just by party figures! And people like you, who wanted chewing gum, jeans and Coke, so don’t need to switch arrows to normal people who, after all the chaos that you did, could get on your feet and secure a decent life without whining! People like YOU always have someone to blame, but they did what, eh? Sit here and scribble all the dregs, your lamentations are already tired, everything is YOU wrong, all YOU are wrong, the pensions are wrong, the age is not the same - CREWNERS and ENVIES !!! Minus the loafers and all-crawlers, the Reds and the Leberales, I’m laughing at you, YOU just don't call anyone YOU, howl, groan, but the GDP does its job and it lays down on YOU whiners and heaps, and correctly does, such as YOU need to be driven there was no time for whining at work! You poor people, they themselves do not want to do anything and are waiting for what they will be presented with on a platter with a border!))) Big and thick, they will only present it for yelling! Cry on, have fun people))))!
          2. tatra
            tatra 10 October 2018 17: 50
            0
            That is EXACTLY, the enemies of the communists initially proved that you were not going to do anything useful for the country and the people, you were never going to take RESPONSIBILITY for the capture of the USSR by you, its dismemberment into your anti-Soviet-Russophobic "independence", for your imposed on them and their peoples. anti-Soviet power, the System that is beneficial to you, your economy, your anti-Soviet ideology / Russophobia, for everything that you have done with them and their peoples.
            The Russian enemies of the communists, starting with the Yeltsin and the liberals imposed by them on Russia and the Russian people, have 27 years of ideology "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all the communists are to blame," disentangling ".
            And for the Ukrainians in everything that they have done with their country and people, for 27 years the "damned Muscovites" are to blame
            1. Former Russian
              Former Russian 11 October 2018 14: 47
              -4
              Blah blah blah, you red how many people buried? Why are you keeping silent? Questions are not convenient? Your red power is red from the blood of the people!
    4. loki565
      loki565 10 October 2018 10: 33
      -5
      I support))) PUTIN FOREVER)))
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 October 2018 10: 36
        +10
        Quote: loki565
        I support))) PUTIN FOREVER)))

        ----------------------------
        Somewhere it was already, only in German.
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 10: 39
          -13
          Some kind of stupid koment, especially from you. If you look closely, then 31 percent still believe their leader, and make such a comparison ...
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 October 2018 10: 40
            +5
            Quote: Bull Terrier
            Some kind of stupid koment, especially from you. If you look closely, then 31 percent still believe their leader, and make such a comparison ...

            --------------------------
            Translate "Putin Forever" into German, what happens? 31% of the bourgeois swamp holding on to their loan Renault Duster and unfinished mortgage barn?
            1. Bull Terrier
              Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 10: 41
              -13
              What? Forever? I would not mind either, but you can’t deceive time.
            2. loki565
              loki565 10 October 2018 10: 45
              -9
              Well, some kind of pig will teach me how to live and for whom to vote ???)))
            3. Bull Terrier
              Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 10: 46
              -1
              And those who are on Camry and no longer with a barn supposedly against?)))))
              1. Andrey Chistyakov
                Andrey Chistyakov 10 October 2018 10: 49
                -2
                Sorry, of course. Do not argue with him. Do not explain anything to him.
                1. Bull Terrier
                  Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 10: 51
                  -9
                  Yes, this is an adequate person) we just have different tastes) and the argument is good. You learn a lot from life. Now I know a new brand of car)
            4. igorbrsv
              igorbrsv 10 October 2018 11: 54
              0
              In America and Renault is free and the barn is irrevocable. Everywhere is better than us
            5. Former Russian
              Former Russian 10 October 2018 16: 56
              -6
              And who are you? Why are you sitting here, not ruling the country? Become the president and start building a better future! But something tells me that with people like you, ALTONA will get even worse, because such as you are the first thieves and creamers! You don’t have anything and call you no matter how, and you write something there on a person who is ABOVE you in social status, education, your affairs! And who are you?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 17: 38
                +6
                Quote: Former Russian
                Become the president and start building a better future!

                In Kalashny row with our Ryazan muzzles do not break through.
                Quote: Former Russian
                But something tells me that with people like you, ALTONA will get even worse, because such as you are the first thieves and creamers!

                Intuition, or what?
                Quote: Former Russian
                There you are scribbling something on a person who is ABOVE you in social status, education, your affairs!

                You can climb the social status in different ways. As well as education. As I recall, the candidate of economic sciences - Putin, was accused of plagiarism. And what about his affairs, can we compare the pros and cons with the minuses? Personally, I'm ready, for example.
                1. igorbrsv
                  igorbrsv 10 October 2018 18: 52
                  -3
                  Let's compare
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 19: 11
                    +6
                    Quote: igorbrsv
                    Let's compare

                    Let's. Where do we start? With the second Chechen? How did it happen that the militants, who were promised to wet the toilet, ended up in power?
                2. Former Russian
                  Former Russian 11 October 2018 14: 49
                  -2
                  I do not need to compare, I see how it was and how it became! And there are always enough of those not satisfied, something is always wrong with you! Go to work and don’t bother!
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        2. loki565
          loki565 10 October 2018 10: 41
          -5
          And you know how to indulge in German ??? )))
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 October 2018 10: 43
            +12
            Quote: loki565
            And you know how to indulge in German ??? )))

            ---------------------------
            My grandfather knew how, who died near Minsk, trying to crush the horde of Aloizovich, whom the Germans praised about the same. The phrase is painfully commonplace and famous.
            1. loki565
              loki565 10 October 2018 10: 48
              -4
              Grandpa is understandable. then all the grandfathers fought, but why do you ascribe yourself to their merits?
              1. Altona
                Altona 10 October 2018 10: 49
                +9
                Quote: loki565
                Grandpa is understandable. then all the grandfathers fought, but why do you ascribe yourself to their merits?

                ---------------------------
                I do not ascribe myself to merit; you ascribe yourself to the lovers of leaders. I remind you simply.
                PS "Espionage, like prostitution, is one of the most important professions" - a Freudian clause? wink
                1. loki565
                  loki565 10 October 2018 10: 59
                  -3
                  To lovers of leaders ??? eco suffered you))) Freud cries for you, everyone thinks how to relate prostitution to the near)))
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 10 October 2018 11: 03
                    +4
                    Quote: loki565
                    To lovers of leaders ??? eco suffered you))) Freud cries for you, everyone thinks how to relate prostitution to the near)))

                    -------------------
                    I quote you and your leader, so excuse does not channel.
                    1. loki565
                      loki565 10 October 2018 11: 19
                      -8
                      Leaders in your head ... I have the PRESIDENT of the Russian Federation))) for which I voted))) I like some innovations, some do not, but if you look at all the activities in general, I’m more likely against it)))
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 11: 29
                        +6
                        Quote: loki565
                        I have the President of the Russian Federation

                        That the president, that the chairman, one hell, sits in front.
                        Quote: loki565
                        In 90 state employees for half a year did not pay salaries and you won’t quit work, you lose everything ... Fan blackouts almost every day for 6 hours ...

                        Stole from, sir. Power outages? No, I don’t remember.
                      2. loki565
                        loki565 10 October 2018 11: 54
                        -6
                        Well, something like this, although the video is about Ukraine, but in Russia, too, it was
                      3. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 12: 17
                        +1
                        We did not have. Unless, when the accident near Moscow was somewhere in the middle of the zero.
                      4. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 15: 18
                        -3
                        And do not remember about heating with hot water?
                      5. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 15: 42
                        +5
                        Quote: igorbrsv
                        And do not remember about heating with hot water?

                        No, I don’t remember. We had a boiler room from the enterprise, which successfully destroyed the Muscovites in our decade.
                      6. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 41
                        -4
                        Oh well, you are from Moscow. It sometimes seems to me that from satisfying places, most are dissatisfied. They know a lot about their rights, but do not remember about duties. Here the truth is not specific to you, this is from experience
                      7. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 17: 43
                        +7
                        Quote: igorbrsv
                        Oh well, you are from Moscow.

                        Gee-gee. I am not from Moscow, I am from the Tula region, where almost half of the population travel to Moscow to earn money. And here we have a salary of 15-20 thousand. considered quite normal.
                      8. igorbrsv
                        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 18: 56
                        -2
                        . Unless, when the accident near Moscow was somewhere in the middle of zero

                        Well, I don’t know request
                      9. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 19: 05
                        +3
                        Quote: igorbrsv
                        Well, I don’t know

                        Well, then, howling stood all over Russia. And we hooked. For a day or so they sat without light, or so, I already forgot. There was more queue for water to the spring than in the USSR for Cuban bananas.
                      10. Altona
                        Altona 10 October 2018 12: 14
                        +10
                        Quote: loki565
                        Leaders in your head ...

                        -----------------------
                        In my? In your. "Putin Forever" (actually "long live Putin") you write in caps, but you don't remember about the greeting to Aloizovich, I won't quote him, otherwise they will assign something. Your memory is weak, and the retirement age has not yet covered. Well, you are blinkered with propaganda like many here. Putin frightened us for so long with the United States and the State Department, and in the end he bombed Voronezh (as in a joke) with pension reform. And if you start to analyze it so critically, then the crying old man remains of the "iron Putin" with his "please treat with understanding" (he controls the whole world, but the IMF cannot send). That's all. I'm not inventing anything, I just say it as it really is. It seems to you that "Putin Forever" is a harmless phrase, and even in the language of the enemy. And if you look at it, it is quite consonant with German phrases with the words sieg and heil and Aloizovich. And you can connect these words if you don't understand from afar.
                        PS And about the "presidents". Hitler was also quite a Reich Chancellor. Napoleon was emperor, Caesar was Caesar.
                      11. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 10 October 2018 17: 09
                        -9
                        Well, then try to take and break abruptly with the IMF! I don’t understand what are you doing here Altona? Why are you still not in government? What do you always want power here? Gorbachev is bad, Yeltsin is bad, Putin is bad! Well, what kind of president do you want? Maybe it will be better for you if the Russian Federation is under external control? Maybe you feel better if the Russian Federation will bend under the pressure of the West? Or maybe you want both in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria? Or maybe you just want another revolution in order to catch your own in a muddy little water nishtyachkov! Personally, I’m living much better than in the 90s-00s and I don’t care about retirement age, VAT and everything else, cry on, but I’d better work, earn my old age and retirement from the word in general, I can give it to you if only you were satisfied! I’m generally for abolishing the pension, and letting the freed assets go back on track, but people like you, whiners and beggars will groan again! Go to work the old fart, and if you do not want to chew what they give, do not count on more, since you are to blame for the collapse of the USSR!
                      12. RitaNik
                        RitaNik 10 October 2018 20: 02
                        +5
                        In 1991, 76,4 percent voted for the preservation of the USSR, so do not blame the old guys. Thank you to your Gorbachev and Yeltsin. And about beggars and pensions: isn't it the head of the pension fund?
                      13. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 11 October 2018 14: 50
                        -4
                        No, not the head, I can give you my pension! I have enough earned money for a living! Stop whining, go to work!
                      14. RitaNik
                        RitaNik 11 October 2018 15: 04
                        +1
                        Ahahaha))) I thank you, but my conscience does not allow me to take something from you and your rams, By the way, your advice on what I should do is also not required.
                      15. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 12 October 2018 17: 11
                        0
                        Conscientious))), well, well!
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            3. Cottager452
              Cottager452 11 October 2018 15: 04
              0
              But my grandfather fought with the enemies of the people in Taishetlag and recalled that the Communists of the bosses are the most
              run to godfather. Hehe hell, in a word.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 10 October 2018 19: 58
        +3
        FOREVER
        And in Russian in any way?
    5. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 10 October 2018 10: 41
      -5
      You tell Merkel about "conscience".
    6. LSA57
      LSA57 10 October 2018 10: 42
      -4
      Quote: Svarog
      the amazing thing is that after all he did

      Return Crimea back? start the war in Chechnya again? why don't we remember?
      1. SlavaS
        SlavaS 10 October 2018 10: 52
        +15
        Is this your achievement Crimea? profukat USSR and return the Crimea? this is a topic of pride, Putin is the successor of those who destroyed the USSR, although you cannot blame him for everything, because in his decisions he is not independent.
        1. loki565
          loki565 10 October 2018 11: 01
          -2
          Well, you also scoured the USSR, why didn’t you go out to the rally AGAINST the collapse of the USSR ???)))
        2. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 11: 03
          -2
          USSR, too, Putin ???? damn it ... and the men do not even know!
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        4. Former Russian
          Former Russian 10 October 2018 17: 10
          -2
          Quote: SlavaS
          scum USSR

          Interesting: Putin profiled the USSR? Well, you give a pancake))), you need to school, sir, to update your knowledge, so to speak!
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 10 October 2018 10: 53
        +11
        Quote: LSA57
        Quote: Svarog
        the amazing thing is that after all he did

        Return Crimea back? start the war in Chechnya again? why don't we remember?

        When Crimea returned and his rating was appropriate, and on its first term I myself was an ardent supporter of it .. but everything changes both people and time .. It was necessary to leave on time .. And now why will it have ratings .. from that that the Russian people arranged genocide ..?
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 11: 04
          -2
          1. When do you think he should have left?
          2. Who should have been instead?
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 12: 01
            +14
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            1. When do you think he should have left?

            When he ceased to control his own typed government. Unless, of course, his true goals did not differ from those voiced.
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            2. Who should have been instead?

            Grudinin as an option. But he was "drowned" in lawlessness at the elections, and with the use of administrative resources.
            And there is no need to say that a stealing collective farmer is not an option - in the first place, nobody proved anything and did not put Grudinin (a person not a team!). Secondly, Putin is a man of Sobchak’s inner circle, and everyone knows how privatization took place under Sobchak. Over 18 lei of government, the gap between the rich and the poor has grown many times, and now it is at the level of Latin American countries.
            1. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 12: 05
              -10
              And I knew that you would say Grudinin ... and that he was close to the traitor Zyuganov nothing? And that he did very very dark things in 90 years in the Leninsky district ... and that around his company in those years the blood flowed? the abyss as it was in 90 .. and so it remained, only after 18 years ... and everywhere in the world there is a difference, both in China and the United States ... because the world was initially unfair
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 12: 12
                +12
                Quote: Andrey VOV
                But the fact that he is close to the traitor Zyuganov nothing?

                AND? Tell you how much it spilled across the country? Grudinin and Sue are to blame? I repeat - Putin is no better, even worse, because instead of the stated goals, we see the opposite. Grudinin in a single microdistrict made social paradise, and Putin made capitalism with a beastly face in a single country. And do not poke the Crimea - it was necessary to pick up along the Dnieper, most of us were waiting there.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 12: 26
                  -12
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Putin made animalistic capitalism in a single country

                  Uh OSA... you have not yet seen what is "with the beast".

                  Take a trip to Germany, at least for a couple of years - choke on ... me guarantee laughing

                  PS: did the loot fly? And then you will become whining again wink
                2. Andrey VOV
                  Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 12: 47
                  0
                  Have you personally been to this paradise ?? Do you know the basis of the so-called this paradise? There is no paradise there and cannot be .. absolutely
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 19: 35
                    +3
                    Quote: Andrey VOV
                    and it can’t be .. absolutely

                    I haven’t read it, but I condemn it, yes? wink
                3. igorbrsv
                  igorbrsv 10 October 2018 15: 26
                  -9
                  Grudinin is tsar in his microdistrict, and in big politics no more than a boy, and therefore he would also have been hated in a year already for inconsistency, and even for deflection
                  1. igorbrsv
                    igorbrsv 10 October 2018 15: 27
                    -3
                    And you will be the first to do it
                4. Former Russian
                  Former Russian 10 October 2018 17: 16
                  -12
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Grudinin in a single microdistrict made

                  The thief collective farmer is not capable of anything, but it is just like you to wash your eyes! It would have been shrimp delivered everywhere, but it doesn’t work with GDP. So do not cry for your GRU and Sue, two thieves, two traitors, and indeed commies have outlived themselves in the late 80s! Steal, people threw, and now cry! Do not cry Maroussia - the soldier will return!
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 19: 36
                    +6
                    Quote: Former Russian
                    but it doesn’t work with GDP.

                    And Medvedev rolls with GDP? Baumgertner, Usmanov, and the same Chubais rolls with GDP? !! fool
                    1. Former Russian
                      Former Russian 12 October 2018 17: 13
                      0
                      And how do you know how they have it and what works? Keep a candle in the evenings, al tell you? Maybe he them?
            2. tatra
              tatra 10 October 2018 14: 16
              +4
              The Russian anti-Soviet clique staged a rage before the last "Putin election" not specifically against Grudinin, but because it fiercely hates any alternative to their Yeltsin-Putin regime and the System, in which, as they boast for 27 years, they HAVE a lot of things.
              1. Andrey VOV
                Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 15: 00
                -7
                Enough slogans to write, have you specifically been to Grudinin's "paradise", personally?
                1. tatra
                  tatra 10 October 2018 15: 12
                  +8
                  Well, AGAIN, I clearly wrote that the point is not specifically in Grudinin. Your anti-Soviet clique would rage against a candidate from the united "left opposition" with the same malice, slander, hypocrisy, boorish insults, even if it were Jesus Christ
                  1. Former Russian
                    Former Russian 10 October 2018 17: 19
                    -7
                    And you people ask: Do they want a commune again in power? You justified ... oh, they blundered very seriously and there is no faith in you! All your power of advice was built on a lot of blood and there is no desire to get involved again! Grudinin and Sue on the bunk!
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 19: 42
                      +7
                      Quote: Former Russian
                      Do they want a commune in power again?

                      In China, communism, if that. wink GDP (not Putin wink ) higher, economic growth higher, pensions higher, s \ n higher. Own electronics, the pace of armaments is several times higher than ours. Yes by quality they are still lagging behind weapons, but at their pace of development, they will surpass us in five years. So what is there for the Communists at the helm? wink
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 11 October 2018 22: 35
                        -1
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        In China, communism, if anything

                        Yah? So, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"? belay

                        I do not believe (s).

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        pensions higher, s \ n higher

                        Lies. If you take China as a whole, then it’s a blatant lie.

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        at their pace of development, they will surpass us in five years

                        What to argue with you again? Only your "outdone" is correct to specify.

                        This time, blow the same, and not a bottle of tequila laughing

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        So what is there for the Communists at the helm?

                        There are no "communists" in China. There is a party that is called that (by tradition). However, we also have such a party, but before the CPC, it was like before Beijing in the knee-elbow yes
                      2. Former Russian
                        Former Russian 12 October 2018 17: 17
                        0
                        Yes, they all think that somewhere is good, but everything is bad with us !!!! Putin leaked everything, they lied to Grudinin, the reforms are not the same, the pension is small! But in the same China they would eat at retirement (but without a pension) at the expense of relatives and would not moan on the internet because everything is bad, otherwise it will be fast for bunks or under execution! So there’s no way to convince them, for them everything is always bad and not according to theirs!
                  2. igorbrsv
                    igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 45
                    -3
                    That clique has its own interests. Not our she. There is a battlefield and the president is not in a clique
        2. Anchonsha
          Anchonsha 10 October 2018 12: 04
          -4
          And Navalny would come instead of GDP and everything would fly into a ditch with you. That would be to see how you will be happy with the new. Navalny, under the leadership of the Phasington Regional Committee, no longer asked you what reforms are needed, whether hospitals are needed.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 10 October 2018 16: 51
            +7
            Bulk instead of GDP
            And what do you contrast the liberal Putin - the liberal Navalny? And why Putin, well, not Putin, well, the Seagull will not put Navalny for slander? Navalny spoke about Chaika, Medvedev, Shuvalov, Putin disagrees with the same Putin, but Navalny does not sit down. The duelist Zolotov, instead of exposing the vile provocations of Navalny, offered to arrange a scuffle, calling him a duel. So why are they all afraid of imprisoning Navalny?
          2. Former Russian
            Former Russian 10 October 2018 17: 20
            -2
            You will now be heaped with giblets and fickles! What are you saying, he’s a very honest man!))) From me to you +, and to all the bulkers a centner of cement in the throat!
        3. Former Russian
          Former Russian 10 October 2018 17: 12
          -6
          Quote: Svarog
          organized the genocide of the Russian people ..

          Intersely, and when did the Russian genocide begin then? Something I did not notice such a turn of events!))) Maybe enough to drink a drink, but any nastiness to smoke?
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 10 October 2018 20: 01
            +9
            Quote: Former Russian
            Quote: Svarog
            organized the genocide of the Russian people ..

            Intersely, and when did the Russian genocide begin then? Something I did not notice such a turn of events!))) Maybe enough to drink a drink, but any nastiness to smoke?

            What do you think raising the retirement age is not genocide? After 50 years you get a hell of a job, a question for you "Former Russian", how to live 15 years without a job? And the fact that there is practically no free medicine left is not genocide .. It’s useless to wait in line for a narrow specialist .. You need to go for money, but after 50, how will you go for money if you don’t have a job, but you have to pay for housing and communal services ..
            1. Former Russian
              Former Russian 12 October 2018 17: 19
              0
              Engage in folk medicine and cure 80-90% of sores without drugs from the pharmacy!
    7. Vladimirsky
      Vladimirsky 10 October 2018 11: 22
      +11
      Quote: Svarog
      what is surprising is that after all that he has done, in general someone supports him ..

      Adm. Resource in the first place and supports. Read how many bots are brainless and naively discussing, glorifying the appeal of GDP about the pension reform in YouTube videos. This is a whole army of organized keys.
      Disappointment and a sense of deception remained after all these tricks. I think that United Russia, as a party of power, is awaiting rebranding, and a "new" leader will be found by the end of the presidential term. (like Teddy Bear at one time).
    8. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 10 October 2018 11: 32
      0
      Merkel in Germany has already been in power for 4 terms and will go for 5 terms, and it is not the people who re-elect her, but only the parliament, where her party has the majority !!! Roosevelt was in power for 4 terms and nothing, if the US oligarchs hadn’t poisoned him, he would have gone for the fifth and no one would have been worse from this ...
      I explain to you - limiting the term of the president is stupid, the powers of the president should limit only the people in the elections, not the term ... This is the same as taking and driving a competent leader along with the chief accountant and taking others off the street, not for that that the previous leader is bad, but simply because of what must be changed. Well, how will such an enterprise work after that? No way ...
      Limiting the term of the president in the country is beneficial only to the OLIGARCHS, so when limiting the term, the president will always understand that his powers are limited by time and no matter how much people love him, he will not be able to rely on his support in the fight against financial clans and will not be able to carry out real reforms, so as Roosevel did in the United States and it was precisely for this that he was poisoned, and it was precisely after this that in 1947 the Constitution of the United States was amended to limit the term of the president, and it is these norms of the United States that are introduced into the constitutions of other countries, in particular in Russia ...
    9. volot-voin
      volot-voin 10 October 2018 11: 33
      +9
      Quote: Svarog
      No wonder .. what is surprising is that after all that he has done, in general someone has supported him. 18 years .. and there is enough conscience among people ..

      All this is sad that the people stopped trusting the Tsar, and the Tsar "threw" the people for the sake of his friends, the oligarchs. Failed ideas of revolution from above, that the Tsar wakes up to pinch the oligarchs. I would like to change the government to real patriots, to non-Western opposition, such as Kvachkov or other worthy people. I really do not want to hit the Russian statehood and clearly do not want to strife, since this will not add the welfare of the people. How to be?
    10. krops777
      krops777 10 October 2018 12: 45
      -5
      No wonder .. what is surprising is that after all that he has done, in general someone has supported him. 18 years .. and there is enough conscience among people ..

      And I have enough conscience, because I remember everything. I remember how in the 90s I handed over metal so that I would study since my parents were not paid a salary at the factory for years, I remember how there was nothing to eat when I served, and I was almost sent to a Chechen one, I remember gangster lawlessness and how the bandits killed people in full view and in broad daylight we could grab a man and put him in an unknown car, as a pensioner's grandmother did not receive her pension and we survived at the expense of her household, but there are a lot of things that are missing now and thanks to V.V. To Putin.
    11. mavrus
      mavrus 10 October 2018 13: 37
      +2
      I have never voted for Putin, and in the last elections I called on all my acquaintances, which is enough for him. But you ask: "What has he done in 18 years?" And those who are under 40 and above will immediately remember the 90s, and with a sigh they will run to vote again for Putin. Bad question.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 10 October 2018 13: 55
        0
        And those under 40 and above
        just remember the 70s-80s and they say only not Putin with his friends oligarchs and liberals
      2. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 15: 33
        -2
        All is correct. Unlike the youth who is behind Navalny
    12. Vladimir Teplov
      Vladimir Teplov 10 October 2018 19: 35
      +5
      All ratings are blown and fake. For 18 years they built a state of awesome taxes and fines. And also the country of kidalov on the salary of interest holders and anything else and on the pension of kidalov and all this is not visible only to the fanatic of Putin or the blind
    13. free
      free 11 October 2018 08: 13
      +2
      Quote: Svarog
      No wonder .. what is surprising is that after all that he has done, in general someone has supported him. 18 years .. and there is enough conscience among people ..

      It lacks stupidity and foresight among people, this is abundant in them.
    14. Shelest2000
      Shelest2000 11 October 2018 18: 34
      +1
      If in June of this year it was 48%, then by the end of September it dipped to the mark of 39%.

      The leader of the anti-rating is Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. Non-believers - 31%.

      Levada, as always, is lying. A couple of months ago, a survey was conducted on different sites on the credibility of these political characters. Their rating there did not rise above 10%. And the most epic vote was on YouTube - the degree of trust in Putin was 4% (more than 3000 who voted at that time), in Medvedev - 2% (more than 2500 who voted at that time). So here it is ...
    15. BastaKarapuzik And
      BastaKarapuzik And 11 October 2018 19: 52
      0
      What about the question of trusting this Levada Center? (To a foreign agent?)
  2. Olegater
    Olegater 10 October 2018 10: 23
    +6
    In general, it is not the meals that "raise" the confidence of the people.
    1. Altona
      Altona 10 October 2018 10: 44
      +12
      Quote: Olegater
      In general, it is not the meals that "raise" the confidence of the people.

      ----------------------------
      How did it happen? In the morning I smear a sandwich, just a thought, but how are the people? And the piece does not go into the mouth ... Well, then you know. laughing
      1. Olegater
        Olegater 10 October 2018 11: 06
        +4
        Classic is immortal good , and it is possible to quote L. Filatov every time to the actions of the authorities !!!
  3. Serge Gorely
    Serge Gorely 10 October 2018 10: 27
    +15
    The people are not the electorate ... Of course you can tolerate, but when the oligarchy is simultaneously pumped up with money, then a high rating is expected .. naive.
    1. reservist
      reservist 10 October 2018 11: 22
      +7
      The rating is growing, and respect is falling.
      (c) Mikhail Zadornov.
  4. kapitan92
    kapitan92 10 October 2018 10: 29
    +23

    Yesterday in the Stavropol Territory.
    Meetings of "friends" should be arranged in the Tambov region, against the backdrop of impassable roads and abandoned Russian villages.
    As already noted, 39% of respondents said they trust Vladimir Putin.

    "Down and Out trouble started". (running). hi
    1. loki565
      loki565 10 October 2018 10: 36
      -6
      This is where off-road ???
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 10 October 2018 10: 56
      -5
      Quote: kapitan92
      off-road

      Well, where is the impassability? governors are responsible for this. maybe the President should be responsible for the clogged toilets? let's cut plumbers)))))
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 10 October 2018 11: 07
        +12
        Quote: LSA57
        Well, where is the impassability?

        https://dorogi-onf.ru/city/12077/ Карта убитых дорог г. Тамбов и Тамбовской обл.
        Quote: LSA57
        governors are responsible for this.

        Of course. Who appoints them? From which party?
        Quote: LSA57
        Should the president answer?

        The president is responsible for the actions of the government, which he approves, and the government is responsible for financing.
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 11: 19
          -13
          About financing, just don’t need it well?))) If the thieves in the Tambov province do not know how to work stupidly, then these are questions for the prosecutor's office. Damn, where there are no frank devastation of roads I do not see. I’m silent about the federal ones. Not super, but pretty well. And then the Bermuda triangle is somehow visible ...
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 10 October 2018 11: 36
        +15
        Quote: LSA57
        Well, where is the impassability? governors are responsible for this. maybe clogged for toilets

        Here Maxim Shevchenko in his YouTube streams shows how people live in the Vladimir region, what roads, hospitals, etc. are. Specifically about the cities of Kovrov and Suzdal. Let me remind you that Orlov’s authoritative food department was running there, which Putin himself patronized and many edros came to support before the election, but which failed miserably in the end
        1. Vladimirsky
          Vladimirsky 10 October 2018 13: 23
          +8
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          Shevchenko in his streams on YouTube shows how people live in the Vladimir region, what roads, hospitals, etc. Specifically about the cities of Kovrov and Suzdal.

          Yes, this is a separate topic, as Shevchenko was "devoured" by Orlov's municipal filter and others like her. And they ate a representative of a parliamentary party - in theory, there shouldn't be a filter for parliamentary parties. But Shevchenko actually beat her in the first round ... As a result, the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia won.
          About the road: here Orlova recently joked in front of the GDP (he just smiled) that the roads in the Vladimir region are better than German autobahns. I recently drove along the M7 (Pokrov - Vladimir) - a nightmare: rut, bumps. It is because of such wanderings that the people neither believe in EP nor GDP.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 12: 01
        +11
        Quote: LSA57
        Well, where is the impassability? governors are responsible for this.

        And do governors report directly to whom? wink
    3. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 11: 05
      -4
      When was the last time you were in the Tambov region?
      1. Departure
        Departure 10 October 2018 16: 00
        -1
        I visit regularly because homeland and cottage. Before Makarov (the former mayor of Michigan), there was a devastation, under Makarov, the situation changed significantly, asphalted most of the city. Under betin (the governor of the region) the situation was catastrophic (in the region). after he left, the situation improved significantly. Total, now there is a major overhaul to the Tambov road, the isosimo-peephole section was paved, (finally!), I also did what I knew and went, I’ve also done other villages. overhauled bridges and interchanges, build a new bridge at the entrance to the mich.
        In the Tambov region with roads now everything is normal!
        1. region58
          region58 10 October 2018 21: 07
          +1
          Quote: departure
          Now there is a major overhaul on the entire highway to Tambov

          I confirm that a month ago I drove in those parts. Repair of roads throughout the Tambov region, at least where I went.
  5. Conductor
    Conductor 10 October 2018 10: 35
    -3
    He arrived in the Stavropol Territory and also ate the villans.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 10: 54
      +18
      Quote: Conductor
      He arrived in the Stavropol Territory and also ate the villans.

      He had not eaten anyone. The FSO carries a bullhorn everywhere. So if you see the old woman treating the president with pies, you should know that these pies were baked in the Kremlin.
      1. cost
        cost 10 October 2018 22: 21
        +2
        FSO carries a bug around him

        Wherever the president goes, his convoy necessarily includes a food refrigerator, a bread truck, a milk tank, a barrel of kvass and three bags of potatoes (on a motorcycle with a sidecar) laughing
        He arrived in the Stavropol Territory and also ate the villans.

        so that whoever came across a moot point yes
  6. Snail N9
    Snail N9 10 October 2018 10: 35
    +22
    Nope .... "If not Putin, then who?" "Do you want Navalny or Sobchachku"? .... so in my opinion, "put the question" zaputintsy .... How, here "Boris" pushed the speech (to the pension law, however) in honor of his idol: "Russia-Putin, Putin-Russia "....
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 10: 40
      -14
      Well, we are zaputintsy and who are you?)))
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 10: 55
        -16
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        and who are you?

        And these are local trolls yes
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 10 October 2018 11: 01
          +17
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          and who are you?

          And these are local trolls yes

          Said the main troll laughing
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 11: 05
            -16
            Quote: Svarog
            Said the main troll

            You About myself (that is - not "for all"), finally? Suddenly, fresh, new laughing

            Quote: Svarog
            ... in the ass and sitting ...

            So sit ... there yes
          2. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 51
            +1
            Stop offensive words throwing at each other. We are all at one. But the views do not coincide in places
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 10 October 2018 20: 10
              +11
              Quote: igorbrsv
              Stop offensive words throwing at each other. We are all at one. But the views do not coincide in places

              We are not for one thing, they are putinoids FOR:
              - for an increase in the retirement age, which will lead to mass extinction because after 50 you will not find work, and you need to live another 15 years
              - for paid medicine, we set up hospitals, but there’s no sense, you can’t get to a specialist for free, but how can I go to a paid specialist if there is no work after 50?
              - Putinoids for the collapse of science, education, children’s sports were stolen ... they were set up around ice palaces, but not everyone can afford it .. and all sports clubs for children are paid ..
              -Putinoids for the fact that nothing competitive is being produced in our country, which could be in demand in the world (except for weapons)
              - kremleboty for the fact that the birth rate would fall because it can not grow, with such beggarly salaries and such a mortgage rate
              In general, we are generally on different sides, since, I will never understand the person who is for the death of Russia and its citizens.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 20: 29
                -11
                Quote: Svarog
                ... they who putinoids are FOR ...

                ... (all bad, in short)

                Svarog, are you this, that ... healthy, in general? Show me at least one putinoid, how you painted it here right now. Who would not want to retire at 30, all-all-all, from the hospital to the grave - free and other, and more ...

                That's just interesting. And then, based on your answer, I will draw some conclusions wink
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 12: 07
          +10
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          And these are local trolls

          Funny kitty, funny. I’m wondering what is the percentage of semantic load of your comments - 0.01%? wink Or below? wassat Specifically, the state of the economy in the country has something to say?
          P.S. And yes, Kisa - how soon will you stop "pedaling" a betrooted argument and I will taste tequila? wink And then the pause indecently dragged on. You're an honest man, right? wink
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 12: 19
            -10
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And then the pause indecently dragged on

            Yes, I forgot about you completely ... OSA.

            Your tequila flew away, catch laughing

            I don’t comment on other nonsense - it's boring request
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 10 October 2018 12: 23
            +6
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And then the pause indecently dragged on. You're an honest man, right?

            In less than a minute. Well, what is Kisa Vyacheslavovich, I publicly confirm - You are an honest person. yes (Though not good. wassat) I hope not to choke on your tequila! wink
            PS
            Too bad to thump
            - and living is sometimes disgusting. laughing But some joys allow us to sweeten the pill. Naturally in moderation. wink
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 10 October 2018 13: 59
        +6
        Well, we are zaputintsy and who are you?
        And we are for Russia without Putin’s oligarchs and liberals.
    2. tatra
      tatra 10 October 2018 14: 19
      +6
      And with "violent indignation" they pester everyone who is against Putin "what do you want, Maidan?"
  7. sleeve
    sleeve 10 October 2018 10: 36
    0
    Blatant nonsense with understandable purposes. Not even ... The most honest ... That fits. But interesting. For example, a survey takes place, well, somewhere in Saratov. And a good question, "Do you trust the president?" And it is carried out by a little man with the inscription "Levada Center, acts as a foreign agent on the territory of Russia" on his chest. Well, I should have listened to the results. Well, this is so - the fiction is useless ...
  8. Altona
    Altona 10 October 2018 10: 38
    +18
    Today a colleague said that he didn’t want to hear about Putin at all. I told him that I am still shaking with anger in connection with the "pension reform".
    1. loki565
      loki565 10 October 2018 10: 54
      -15
      So it is necessary to change the pension reform, how much a person has earned in his whole life, then that too. and not as children must now provide their parents with a pension. and if the child is alone then how will he pay for his two parents ??? Now it’s not the USSR, and rarely in a family of 3 or 4 children
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 11: 21
        -12
        There will be even more whining, believe me. Those who have not moved the fillet part all their lives will lead the same to rallies against those who earned money all their lives. I have no doubt about that.
        1. loki565
          loki565 10 October 2018 11: 33
          -10
          but it’s fair, and now a person who didn’t work for a day did not pay taxes. receives a minimum pension, is asked for what merits ??? But the problem is that if you switch to such a system you will have to pay some time in the general pension, and this is not acceptable.
          1. reservist
            reservist 10 October 2018 12: 25
            +4
            Quote: loki565
            not a day worked tobish taxes not paid

            did not work a day and did not pay taxes - these are actually two different and not always interconnected concepts ...
            I googled the Moscow minimum pension - almost 12 thousand, a pensioner who has paid taxes all his adult life, with a pension of almost 20 thousand, i.e. that pay taxes, that for a "black" or "gray" salary, work, there will be no dramatic difference ... there are at least a couple of "moneybags" on the site who probably only pay about a million in taxes a year, but they are unlikely to receive a pension strongly more than 30 thousand
            imho, you need to abolish the regressive taxation system and make the pension directly dependent on the taxes paid, otherwise a third of the country will work in the "gray" ...
          2. Departure
            Departure 10 October 2018 16: 12
            +2
            In general, I agree with you, I don’t know why you were blamed.
            retirement money should be on an individual account and completely transparent: how much you earned, so much you get in the end. What now? as a result of this, working now, pay for those who used to; the pension fund is taken by everyone who is not lazy. the reform just thundered and the news immediately emerges Chubais took a billion from the pension fund. I wouldn’t give him a penny of a broken line, and not only he launches his hands there now and my money too, but they will give it, not a fact.
            1. reservist
              reservist 10 October 2018 16: 41
              +4
              Quote: departure
              retirement money must be on an individual account and completely transparent: how much you earned, so much you get in the end

              and have already figured out how to save money from inflation?
              I suddenly recall a couple of denominations, several collapses in the exchange rate and one default, not counting other "minor" shocks like the Pavlovian reform of 1991, and each time savings began to rapidly lose their purchasing power ...
              1. Departure
                Departure 10 October 2018 17: 32
                0
                it will be my concern already. and since you don’t know how to manage your money, then do not blame the reform and everything connected with it. with such success you can be cheated at any kiosk. you have your choice, but I have my own.
                1. reservist
                  reservist 10 October 2018 18: 28
                  +1
                  Well, tell us about your "choice", perhaps this is something more constructive than working in the "gray", tax evasion and currency speculation ...
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 10: 56
      -10
      Quote: Altona
      co-worker saidthat generally does not want to hear about Putin. I told himthat I am still shaking with anger in connection with the "pension reform"

      Here and talkedwhat is called ...

      I'm laughing with you, Altona laughing
  9. APASUS
    APASUS 10 October 2018 10: 50
    +17
    I honestly haven’t met any satisfied people in my team. Maybe, of course, there are admirers,
    but pension reform put everything in its place. The people are very unhappy
    1. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 10 October 2018 11: 09
      +9
      Pension reform shook Putin's rating well Advisers he has such as with this video
      1. loki565
        loki565 10 October 2018 11: 39
        -7
        Do you think he’s sitting and watching videos on YouTube ???))) The cant of an IT adviser and the one who selected these videos ... although they could issue real sorties, which are plentiful in Syria now.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 10 October 2018 12: 55
          +2
          Quote: loki565
          Do you think he’s sitting and watching videos on YouTube ???))) The cant of an IT adviser and the one who selected these videos ... although they could issue real sorties, which are plentiful in Syria now.

          This video is posted on YouTube by someone called Radio Lampshade 925 subscribers.
          On first impressions:
          1 This video is not from the official site
          2 In the upper left corner there are English inscriptions in English TADS and FLIR, the corner frame is indicated in English letters, the pilots conduct a conversation in English, judging by the video from Putin, they are making a fool who does not understand where the shooting is from
          And the last
          3 Presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov called the news "complete nonsense." The episode of the film, in which Putin is showing Stone a video, will be shown on Channel One on June 21.
    2. reservist
      reservist 10 October 2018 11: 28
      +7
      and in mine there is one satisfied working pensioner, but the truth is not an admirer of Putin, from the word at all ...
  10. Приговор
    Приговор 10 October 2018 10: 53
    -3
    I do not trust the Levada centers. They give about the same “true” information as the Jewish Air Force commander at a reception in Moscow. But, the fact that the rating has fallen is undoubtedly after such pension “reforms”. But, apparently, Vladimir Vladimirovich does not care about the ratings. Happiness is not in them.
    1. reservist
      reservist 10 October 2018 11: 31
      +6
      Quote: Sentence
      But, apparently, Vladimir Vladimirovich does not care about the ratings. Happiness is not in them.

      yes these ratings surrendered to him, not for the fifth term to be elected ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 10 October 2018 17: 35
        +4
        Quote: reservist
        Quote: Sentence
        But, apparently, Vladimir Vladimirovich does not care about the ratings. Happiness is not in them.

        yes these ratings surrendered to him, not for the fifth term to be elected ...

        Who knows laughing and then another mnogokhodovochka and opaa and went for 5 term .. wassat
        1. reservist
          reservist 10 October 2018 18: 13
          +1
          until the end of the current term - 5 years, then again 6 years in premieres
          by the 5th term already 77 will hit ... Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev only extended to 76 ...
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 10 October 2018 18: 37
            +5
            Quote: reservist
            until the end of the current term - 5 years, then again 6 years in premieres
            by the 5th term already 77 will hit ... Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev only extended to 76 ...

            So the athlete ... Komsomolets .. I would not rule out such an option ..
            1. reservist
              reservist 10 October 2018 19: 05
              +1
              actually yes, you don’t have to go far for an example, Nazarbayev is already 78 ...
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2018 11: 03
    +13
    There is no fundamental difference. who will be at the helm .... the rich, who, as it were ours, have appointed the robbery of the people by lawlessness! Why? And therefore sho they are and are in their deepest essence!
    These fairy tales about a kind, progressive and such a white fluffy capitalist haven’t crossed my throat. even!
    And how in the west ??? Yes, there EVERYTHING that at least somehow the working people have, it was wrested from the powers that be in the old days, when everyone had the example of the Country of Soviets in their faces !!!
    And now the times are very vague .... somewhere by inertia still rolls, but we simply do not have such inertia, there was a big turning point and the greedy redneck turned out to be domineering !!!
    PS We do not forget all the achievements of the GDP, but the current "feats" are leading the country to disaster and this is our possible prospect. How to deal with this ???
    1. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 10 October 2018 11: 20
      +18
      Instead of 25 million jobs, pension reform +5 years
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 October 2018 11: 32
        +11
        Work places??? Will the capitalist have a headache about this?
        He needed one thing: the Schaub thrown over the fence was easy to replace .... it’s dialectics, without it, nowhere!
  12. Olegater
    Olegater 10 October 2018 11: 13
    +19
    Strange things are happening on the site !!!
    How quickly pluses are put to pro-government approvals !!! Already captures the spirit !!!! What is the "correct" vote here !!! Probably "Russian hackers" broke the site. Why are you ashamed to put 100500 who are for Putin at once.
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 11: 23
      -7
      Nonsense. About three hours later we will be in deep minus, as usual)))
      1. Olegater
        Olegater 10 October 2018 11: 27
        +7
        And why then such provocations on this site if you do not want to listen to an alternative opinion? Well delete it. And there is nothing to excite people. Or is it so conceived as to bring to article 282?
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 10 October 2018 11: 30
        +4
        Quote: Olegater
        Strange things are happening on the site !!!

        Cool, of you two, only one plus sign managed to be suspended !!! Well, at least not a minus clung to, as has happened more than once.
        We state - my tongue, my enemy!
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        In about three hours we will be in a deep minus, as usual

        Yes, let it be so, everyone spoke out early .... maybe it’s easier.
        But seriously, this is just a talker, one of many .... nothing depends on such, in our "fair" society!
        1. BAI
          BAI 10 October 2018 12: 40
          +1
          Indeed, only one.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 October 2018 12: 45
            0
            The question is, why so?
            Why are minuses instead of pluses sculpted?
            And finally, why did you start such a bootleg, I do not like it, voted against .... as always, the dermocracy won!
        2. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 56
          +1
          But I am glad that there are like-minded people, even though they are talking
      3. AUL
        AUL 10 October 2018 16: 18
        0
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        Nonsense. About three hours later we will be in deep minus, as usual)))

        Do not worry - the marshals from the order will throw you from their bounty, support afloat!
        1. igorbrsv
          igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 58
          0
          I forgot to throw laughing
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 10 October 2018 11: 24
      +7
      Quote: Olegater
      Strange things are happening on the site !!!
      How quickly pluses are put to pro-government approvals !!! Already captures the spirit !!!! What is the "correct" vote here !!! Probably "Russian hackers" broke the site. Why are you ashamed to put 100500 who are for Putin at once.

      Here the gang was, the order was called, almost all of them, it’s Kremlin bots .. after the conspiracy was revealed, many of them were demoted .. but they didn’t go anywhere, everything is here .. laughing
      1. Alexander Galaktionov
        Alexander Galaktionov 10 October 2018 11: 26
        +7
        You have to be objective and that's it!
      2. Olegater
        Olegater 10 October 2018 11: 32
        +6
        I personally hate these provocateurs of type 5 and 11 columns. But if the opinion is worth something, then you probably need to argue, prove, learn from others and understand their side. And here, who is Putin, he won, it feels like quotes from the zombie’s guy are being played !!!
      3. rocket757
        rocket757 10 October 2018 11: 41
        +6
        Quote: Svarog
        almost all of them are kremleboty.

        But sho, just like the statement of payment from the Kremlin presented?
        People are different and opinions are different ....
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 10 October 2018 11: 52
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          Quote: Svarog
          almost all of them are kremleboty.

          But sho, just like the statement of payment from the Kremlin presented?
          People are different and opinions are different ....

          I’m not saying that all Kremlin bots ... but the majority .. paid to all or just the organizers I don’t know .. But they opposed those who were against the authorities.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 October 2018 12: 02
            +12
            Quote: Svarog
            those who are against the government, they unitedly minus

            I am fundamentally against capitalism, respectively, against this power!
            And how did the Kremlin pay me? In addition, they did not wet it in any way .... like YOURS? I have never hidden my position, I was Soviet and will remain so ....
            By the way, to the Kremlin, all the dermocratic showdown, elections / re-elections to the light !!! This is not a threat to modern power as a whole, it can only push some of the current talkers away from the "trough" .... so new ones will come!
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 10 October 2018 12: 52
              -1
              Quote: rocket757
              Quote: Svarog
              those who are against the government, they unitedly minus

              I am fundamentally against capitalism, respectively, against this power!
              And how did the Kremlin pay me? In addition, they did not wet it in any way .... like YOURS? I have never hidden my position, I was Soviet and will remain so ....
              By the way, to the Kremlin, all the dermocratic showdown, elections / re-elections to the light !!! This is not a threat to modern power as a whole, it can only push some of the current talkers away from the "trough" .... so new ones will come!

              So you remained at the rank, which confirms that you did not participate in conspiracies against expressing alternative thoughts .. That speaks of you as an honest person hi But why do you need this order, it’s still not clear .. And I'm not saying that the Kremlin pays you .. I said that perhaps the organizer of this order was somehow interested .. maybe I'm wrong .. then why are they minuscule only those who cheered Putin did not shout?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 12: 58
                +2
                Quote: Svarog
                So you remained at the rank, which confirms that you did not participate in conspiracies against expressing alternative thoughts ..

                Svarog, stop laughing already !! It's so bad for me to laugh stop

                1. "Ranks" here - cardboard, and "nothing at all."
                2. Minuses, not minuses - the "skulls" were canceled back in the 14th year, the "democracy" on the site ended request

                And to complain - "oh, they offended me, minus me" - this is in kindergarten, to the teacher. Express the "alternative thought" better, you are our gifted ... alternative laughing
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 10 October 2018 13: 36
                  +4
                  An oral dispute is normal .... it is better to exhort with a kind word. Censer is certainly a powerful argument, but let it serve as it is intended.
                  Quote: Svarog
                  why do you need this order, it’s still not clear

                  any association carries a semantic load. There is also a charter, but all this is not an army, not a sect "you can't do that, don't go here, but here you bow and kiss!" .... a normal idea in principle.
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Express already "alternative thought"

                  So what is an alternative thought on the agenda?
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 10 October 2018 13: 58
                    -2
                    Quote: rocket757
                    what alternative idea is on the agenda?

                    This is not for me, this is for Svarog-y. It is he who expresses "alternative thoughts" here, in his opinion ... but as for me, he whines so simply, mostly request
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 10 October 2018 14: 14
                      +1
                      Well, if there are no thoughts, sales are alternative. then not here.
              2. novel66
                novel66 10 October 2018 13: 59
                +3
                minus not those who did not shout "hurray" to Putin. and the whiners who are all trying to close their eyes so that it becomes dark for others. and in general - you yourself are a bot, I don't know whose!
          2. igorbrsv
            igorbrsv 10 October 2018 19: 08
            -3
            Because there was a conspiracy. And so when you consider yourself right and a lot of minuses. I can also say - navalnitsa minus
      4. plotnikov561956
        plotnikov561956 10 October 2018 11: 53
        +6
        I hate the dwarf .. and his flock .. although he himself was Putin’s ram 3 years ago .. I’ve been waiting for HSP to work .. I lied for 18 years .. continues to lie and now .. the last lie about the rapid increase in wages by 8.9% ... this this week was ... among my acquaintances I practically do not meet Zaputinians ... a herd of sheep is thinning It seems that the rating from L. Ts is even overestimated ...
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 12: 08
          -10
          Well, they don’t grow in you, they grow in others), and the fact that you thought yourself cloven-hoofed so we should know why?)
        2. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 10 October 2018 12: 51
          -1
          The key phrase was waiting .... not doing something .. but waiting ....
      5. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 10 October 2018 12: 12
        -12
        I do not participate in this circus and did not even discuss this game about the order. He laughed and that’s it. And so I am for and not against the government always, if it suits me. Usually in the red for their opinion) it’s true that they do not care, but nonetheless) well, the mustard plaster molds for offending the Communists) it’s insulting, but you can live)
      6. Revival
        Revival 10 October 2018 14: 40
        +1
        Do not tell me who they are? And then there are suspicions, I want to check ...
      7. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 10 October 2018 17: 59