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The United States will establish the production of Russian weapons. And the "cliffs" too

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The command of special operations of the US Army intends to establish in the country the production of Russian weapons with improved performance, writes The National Interest.




The military has already offered preliminary contracts to companies, in which potential manufacturers are invited to unlock the inner potential of Russian small arms, such as the modernized Kalashnikov machine gun and the “Rock” large-caliber machine gun, in order to then produce their improved copies.

At the same time, the command requires potential manufacturers to find the necessary drawings and materials themselves - there will be no help from the military department in this matter.

The second main condition for obtaining funding is the establishment of all stages of production strictly in the United States using only US-made components. In addition, only citizens of the United States should be allowed to enter the production process.

As production develops, the range of weapons produced will expand. The military will choose which models they need.

I wonder if there could be a problem with the copyright on the release of Russian weapons in America without a license? Although Russian and Chinese spies did not hold back in helping American technology, the author writes.

So why spetsnaz Russian machine guns?

Just watch any video from any hot spot such as Iraq or Syria, and the answer will become clear. Many of the combatants use Russian or Soviet weapons or their local counterparts - from rifles to rocket launchers and large-caliber machine guns. And when Americans need to provide some of these groups of weapons, they must go to the world market to buy Russian equipment, as well as spare parts. It is very troublesome. Therefore, the Special Operations Command had the idea to produce foreign weapons inside the country,
explains the publication.
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  1. Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 10 October 2018 08: 39
    +4
    And the cost of weapons, too, how should Russia succeed?
    1. den3080
      den3080 10 October 2018 08: 48
      +8
      as usual, the cost should be 3-6 times more.
      1. krot
        krot 10 October 2018 09: 41
        +7
        So I understand that we have all the cards in hand for the production of any weapons of the USA you like! What weapons, in general, any goods! And why now the license)
        1. Mar.Tirah
          Mar.Tirah 10 October 2018 09: 57
          +6
          Quote: krot
          hand us all the cards

          Yeah! Only unlike us, the United States protects its arms and technology markets from whoever it is, whether it’s a private trader or a state. Not a year goes by without a Russian being captured and condemned. Our toothlessness gives rise to such orders. There are weapons, and the United States as a state, nothing to do with it. The ordinary citizens of America have stolen or outbid.
          1. krot
            krot 10 October 2018 10: 06
            0
            I agree that we are too soft-bodied .. But barbarians also do not need to be likened. The golden mean must be found! And we protect technology as well as the states. But over time, due to the mass production, something becomes known from technologies, both ours and any others. Therefore, we can use it.
            1. figwam
              figwam 10 October 2018 10: 14
              +7
              US Army Special Operations Command Intends to Set Up Production of Russian Weapons in the Country

              So the argument ended that the M-16 or AK is better.
              1. Arh
                Arh 10 October 2018 16: 21
                0
                I wouldn’t want them to produce our weapons, let them be proud of their trash !!!
      2. Bykov.
        Bykov. 10 October 2018 10: 06
        +2
        . improved features.

        They will wind up where they can Picatinny rail, that's all the improvements.
      3. Bykov.
        Bykov. 10 October 2018 10: 09
        +1
        Quote: den3080
        as usual, the cost should be 3-6 times more.

        The American copy of the Soviet RPG-7 cost as a full-fledged ATGM.
      4. The comment was deleted.
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 08: 50
      +2
      Quote: Hagalaz
      And the cost of weapons, too, how should Russia succeed?

      No, their hard workers have a bigger salary than ours.
      1. dSK
        dSK 10 October 2018 08: 58
        0
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        salary is more than ours.

        "Kalashnikov" made a modification for the NATO cartridge, for the use of captured ammunition ...
        1. venik
          venik 10 October 2018 09: 20
          +7
          Quote: dsk
          "Kalashnikov" made a modification for the NATO cartridge, for the use of captured ammunition ...

          =========
          "Kalashnikov" made a modification under the NATO cartridge, for export deliveries to countries using NATO ammunition !! And not at all in order to use the trophy !!!
      2. Hagalaz
        Hagalaz 10 October 2018 09: 00
        +3
        Quote: den3080
        as usual, the cost should be 3-6 times more.

        Quote: mordvin xnumx
        Quote: Hagalaz
        And the cost of weapons, too, how should Russia succeed?

        No, their hard workers have a bigger salary than ours.

        This is the joke of the situation laughing
      3. BAI
        BAI 10 October 2018 09: 05
        0
        The robot doesn't care where to work.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 10 October 2018 09: 19
          +2
          But I didn’t know that robots with hammers were assembling machine guns there. recourse
          1. san4es
            san4es 10 October 2018 16: 19
            +2
            hi Hi, Vova.
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            .... they have robots with hammers there. recourse

            ... So we met, antiquity and modernity wink
            A poetic journey through sterile robotic rooms mixes with five centuries of history ...

            ... Off topic - Sorry hi
        2. NEOZ
          NEOZ 10 October 2018 09: 52
          -1
          Quote: BAI
          no matter where to work

          all true!
    3. Yrec
      Yrec 10 October 2018 09: 17
      +4
      The US is peddling. The dollar rests solely on international agreements. And the WTO and patent law among them. Such impudent trampling will ultimately lead to the collapse of the United States. We are already observing this. As soon as the dollar falls, the purchasing power of the US population will fall after him. And given the huge amount of weapons in the hands of the population, the threat of civil war is almost inevitable.
      1. Cycle boss
        Cycle boss 10 October 2018 09: 29
        +2
        Waiting for the US Civil War. It certainly sounds cruel, but it’s better to let them than ours.
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 October 2018 09: 54
        0
        Quote: Yrec
        The dollar rests solely on international agreements.

        no! The dollar rests on US military power.
        1. Yrec
          Yrec 10 October 2018 10: 01
          +2
          So who have they defeated with this "power" lately? Maybe Iraq, where they just bought the entire military elite? Their 800 overseas bases are police stations that show a presence. In the event of a serious mess, they are of little use, and they pull half the budget. The United States, in a military sense, relies on the resources of its "vassals", and they are already demonstrating their defiance.
      3. gromoboj
        gromoboj 10 October 2018 23: 32
        +1
        Dreaming is not bad =)
        As far as I can remember, the dollar does not fall, only the dog grows
        1. Sergey Goncharov
          Sergey Goncharov 11 October 2018 00: 13
          0
          Well, in fact, the USD, of course, both inflates and "sinks" in terms of PPP - as, in fact, all currencies.
          Here: https://www.statbureau.org/en/united-states/inflation-calculators - inflation in the States can be calculated for any period from 01.01.1913/XNUMX/XNUMX
    4. Labrador
      Labrador 10 October 2018 09: 53
      +1
      And will they also impose sanctions on themselves?
  2. hohol95
    hohol95 10 October 2018 08: 45
    +5
    Bulgaria and Romania raised prices for their products?
    Or have the CIA and others like them never purchased goods on the "black arms market"?
    Probably Trump demanded to report with the provision of PRODUCT CHECKS!
    1. Vard
      Vard 10 October 2018 08: 57
      +1
      The resource of non-original weapons is much less ... At times ... And not the fact that the Americans will be able to solve this problem ...
      1. venik
        venik 10 October 2018 09: 34
        -1
        Quote: Vard
        The resource of non-original weapons is much less ... At times ... And not the fact that the Americans will be able to solve this problem ...

        ========
        Is not a fact! Firstly, the Americans have already produced AK-47 and AKM ..... Yes, and the Union dabbled in this .... I learned about this quite by accident, from my friend who in the late 70s - early 80s served in the "special assignments "2 small small batches of M-16 were delivered to their unit (in boxes with two different markings. They had to conduct" comparative tests "in" conditions as close as possible to combat ".... As you might guess, the first batch had rifles American production, and in the second - OURS !!! There was not much difference, by the way ...
        How they managed to reproduce - I can’t imagine! After all, our machines are graduated and calibrated in the metric system, and they have them in inches !!! request
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 04
          0
          Quote: venik
          completely by accident from my friend

          OBS. It’s not funny for yourself?
        2. Igor V
          Igor V 10 October 2018 11: 46
          0
          Quote: venik
          After all, our machines are graduated and calibrated in the metric system, and they have them in inches !!!

          This has never been a problem.
        3. Sergey Goncharov
          Sergey Goncharov 11 October 2018 00: 18
          0
          Part of the machine park of the artillery-shooting and aviation industry of the USSR was quite an “inch” dimension. ”Calibers 7,62, 12,7, 76,2, 119,4, 122,4, 152,4- - they say nothing ?? wink
      2. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 October 2018 09: 55
        0
        Quote: Vard
        The resource of non-original weapons is much less ...

        why? justify.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 14
          -1
          Quote: NEOZ
          Quote: Vard
          The resource of non-original weapons is much less ...

          why? justify.

          To take reference books faith or lack of knowledge does not allow?
      3. Sergey Goncharov
        Sergey Goncharov 11 October 2018 02: 21
        -1
        The Americans may not succeed. But in the GDR, the campaign, they did not know about this "problem," they did not suspect. bully
  3. NEXUS
    NEXUS 10 October 2018 08: 48
    +2
    They did not bother with the creation of their weapons, but stupidly and brazenly declared that they would steal our ideas and achievements. Clever. Only a) the issue of final price and b) quality in comparison with Russian models.
  4. sgr291158
    sgr291158 10 October 2018 08: 48
    +2
    And that their brains are not enough to invent.
    1. spirit
      spirit 10 October 2018 08: 55
      +4
      They need Kalashs and PCs not for themselves, but for dushmans of all stripes, stupid fanatics in spanking and pickup trucks who don't have weapons for professional armies by intellect hi
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 24
        0
        Quote: spirit
        spirit (spirit) Today, 08:55
        +6

        Your followers are very funny.
        Quote: spirit
        weapons for professional armies

        does not work hard "in the field". Not to mention their problems with Internet and satellite communications, which are an order of magnitude slower and an order of magnitude more expensive.
        If cho, "by an order of magnitude" - this is 10 or more (up to 99) times.
        1. spirit
          spirit 10 October 2018 12: 01
          -1
          In the hands of an uneducated Arab-mujahid, nothing works except for AKM) Everything that gives an advantage is integrated into professional troops, with technologies that are not working in the "field" so many wars are not waged. and no one knows what will happen in serious high-tech confrontations, because there is nothing to compare with. There will be a conflict, perhaps then we will see the same Arab with a nano-pack hi
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 10 October 2018 12: 24
            0
            Quote: spirit
            uneducated Arab Mujahideen

            Are your mistakes in every word intentional? or is it faith like that?
            Where did you see the "not educated" (probably together) soldier? Especially for those receiving training from the age of 5 (usually from conception)?
            When did the Mohammedans become Arabs? These are Afghans, Indians. And the Arabs come from North Africa. Their home is Sahara and Kilimanjaro.
            Quote: spirit
            and what will happen in serious high-tech confrontations, no one knows for there is nothing to compare

            And it won't. Any kind of fighting is practical. Their "locality" and huge rears that support "professionalism" in your understanding are seeming. Reitar war, as Europeans perceive it, will no longer exist. Again, rude "Siberian brigades" (even if from Arabs) or wild "Bashkir cavalry" (even if the Chinese are in tanks) will come - and the confrontation between the chansonniers and the invaders in the narrow streets of Paris (where did they find them?) Will not take place.
    2. Cycle boss
      Cycle boss 10 October 2018 09: 32
      +2
      Here it is, the time may come when the influx of brains in the USA will stop, and then it will be difficult to imagine what they will be capable of at all.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 October 2018 09: 56
        0
        Quote: Cycle Boss
        what will they be capable of at all.

        strong and dumb - this is very dangerous !!!!
    3. Vanek
      Vanek 10 October 2018 10: 45
      +1
      Quote: sgr291158
      And that their brains are not enough to invent.


      And they never had their own. Starting from the radio receiver and ending with the rockets that people carry into space.

      It’s another matter to improve, modernize, etc. But as such ...

      The only thing that amers did well was the V8 HEMI. Everything else, for the most part, is one way or another stolen, copied, redone, etc.

      hi
    4. milton
      milton 11 October 2018 00: 58
      0
      We tried, but things are still there laughing
  5. Jerk
    Jerk 10 October 2018 08: 51
    +6
    Everything is much simpler - krivoruky American baboons are a hundred years old, just like they can’t make machine guns. None. Gatling-like miniguns - not a machine gun, but a watering gun, do they have sighting on it at all? If this is a machine gun, then the gun is a sniper! laughing
    Well, about the fact that the counterfeit filed - it’s also not surprising, they are children, they can.
    By the way, this all goes along with the program for developing a promising machine gun for the army.
    Cutting into two hands is already boring - now in four, and in three shifts!
    1. Altona
      Altona 10 October 2018 09: 07
      +5
      Quote: Jerk
      Everything is much simpler - krivoruky American baboons are a hundred years old, just like they can’t make machine guns. None.

      ---------------------------------
      There is one. M60 is generally a clone of the German captured machine gun from the Second World War. My deceased friend in the USA had such a personal use, but he was skeptical about him. In addition to the awesome look on board the car, it is unremarkable and the sense of it is like a broom, he said. Very interested in the SVD and the Kalashnikov machine gun. I told him that there is a more perfect model of Pecheneg. In general, he wanted to change part of his arsenal (and there were 211 barrels, up to Barrett rifles) for Soviet weapons, but did not have time, he died.
      1. milton
        milton 11 October 2018 01: 07
        0
        The Bundeswehr has been in service since 1960 with the MG3, a direct descendant of the MG 42 with minor modifications.
        1. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 11 October 2018 15: 31
          0
          Not anymore. Discontinued.
    2. Sergey Goncharov
      Sergey Goncharov 11 October 2018 02: 29
      -2
      Gatingling miniguns - not a machine gun, but a watering machine

      Which, first in the Russian Empire (in the first "watering" edition), and then - in the USSR (in the second edition) - they considered it good to copy. bully
  6. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 10 October 2018 08: 55
    +12
    The US will establish the production of Russian weapons

    In response, I propose to establish unlicensed production of Windows operating systems in Russia. We will save so much money on deductions to Microsoft that the amount of pensions can be doubled.
    PS My office will deduct about 22 million rubles a year. When I found out the amount, my eyes almost fell out. And, the most unpleasant thing is that our Russian cops sniffed this chip with licensing, and regularly go with inspections.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 10 October 2018 09: 02
      -1
      Quote: Polite Elk
      In response, I propose to establish unlicensed production of Windows operating systems in Russia

      so we have "Linux" ... and the "most powerful" Elbrus .... and awesome computers.
      crying
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 10 October 2018 09: 17
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        the most powerful "Elbrus .... and awesome computers.

        But import substitution.
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 10 October 2018 10: 47
          +1
          Quote: Polite Elk
          But import substitution.


          But his.

          hi
      2. Cycle boss
        Cycle boss 10 October 2018 09: 37
        0
        Laughter, laughter, but where you have to start. If it were not for our corrupt officials (sawmills), I think it would have turned out much better than it turned out.
      3. NEOZ
        NEOZ 10 October 2018 10: 08
        0
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        the most powerful "Elbrus ...

        I suggest you get acquainted with the GETAC X500 laptop! with features and price!
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 43
          0
          Quote: NEOZ
          Getac X500

          https://www.kns.ru/noutbuki/getac/x500/catalog.html
          http://www.versiya.com/getac/x500.html
          Can you tell me what kind of station such a station is? And how to destroy it?
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 10 October 2018 09: 58
      0
      Quote: Polite Elk
      unlicensed production of operating systems

      Do you know the term "pirate"?
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 48
        0
        Quote: NEOZ
        Quote: Polite Elk
        unlicensed production of operating systems

        Do you know the term "pirate"?

        Do you know such a concept as "Gorskiy"?
        1. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 10 October 2018 13: 04
          0
          Quote: sogdy
          Do you know such a concept as "Gorskiy"?

          I live only for them. But at home. For legal entities, unfortunately, only a license.
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 10 October 2018 13: 03
        0
        Quote: NEOZ
        Do you know the term "pirate"?

        Are you familiar with such a concept as Article 146 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation? "Infringement of copyright and related rights (current edition)"
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 10 October 2018 08: 57
    +2
    In principle, do not reinvent the wheel !!!! The thought is sound and not new .....
  8. Smoked
    Smoked 10 October 2018 09: 02
    -2
    They probably want their vassals to supply high-quality familiar native weapons. Is logical.
  9. Larum
    Larum 10 October 2018 09: 02
    +2
    We believe The National Interest as Medvedev.
    But they wrote, the USA produces in small series for an amateur weapons of different countries, including the USSR, Belgium, Germany
    So it is theoretically possible
  10. BAI
    BAI 10 October 2018 09: 04
    -2
    They will make Russian weapons, deliver them to terrorists and blame Russia for this - an extra reason for the next sanctions.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 10 October 2018 10: 14
      0
      Quote: BAI
      Russia will be blamed for this - another reason for the next sanctions.

      very difficult...
      it’s easier to stir up the violinists or interfere in the elections.
    2. sogdy
      sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 50
      0
      Quote: BAI
      Will make Russian weapons

      Do not tell me what materials?
  11. kebeskin
    kebeskin 10 October 2018 09: 08
    +1
    Well, everything urgently needs to impose sanctions on themselves against the production of Russian weapons.
  12. Kerensky
    Kerensky 10 October 2018 09: 10
    -1
    Saw - drank .. that's understandable. But this must be justified in order to get the "material" for cutting. What is the need to create production? If you need a couple of thousand barrels, it's easier to buy.
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 10 October 2018 09: 13
    0
    Yes, the reserves of the Soviet heritage are not endless, they were enough only for a couple of decades of the war.
  14. Romanenko
    Romanenko 10 October 2018 09: 16
    +4
    There will be no sense, they will not be pulled.
    Of course they make Kalashi and RPG-7 without licenses, etc.
    A massive cliffs, etc. the gut is thin.
    They push around and go to the former "brothers" for rifle bikes and machine guns.
    My acquaintance in East Germany had a wife, under socialism, who worked at the factory where they made the GDRovsky AK.
    After 1990, the plant was closed, but not liquidated, and several years ago found out that he was working to the fullest and his friend’s wife was again busy.
    1. traper
      traper 10 October 2018 10: 13
      +1
      Well, they are already releasing RPDs for themselves. Most likely, American clones will be significantly more expensive, but for them this is not a problem
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 53
        0
        Quote: traper
        American clones will be significantly more expensive, but for them it is not a problem

        Drug dollars? It was "not a problem".
      2. Romanenko
        Romanenko 10 October 2018 14: 27
        +2
        RPG probably RPD - Degtyarev machine gun under 7,62x39 they do not, but now is not about that.
        Here the question is complicated. Of course, dollars are not a problem in the states, but they (the US government) work as a bank, if they don’t get 500% profit in some business, they will never get in touch.
        This is their main misfortune!
        They will not pull our weapons as a competitive project.
        The states have never had the concept of a "planned unprofitable enterprise", but we have, are and will be, because there is a concept of MUST!
        Therefore, in terms of price / quality ratio, they can’t catch us, only people can work for us for days under the promise of paying their meager salaries by the new year.
        Only here we could build Ruslan for money, for which even a quarter of Ruslan would not have been raised in the states, one of his titanium platforms on American price tags would have caused a scandal worse than the F-35.
        So the production of Russian weapons in competitive price tags in the states is nonsense !!!
  15. Conductor
    Conductor 10 October 2018 09: 36
    +1
    Have you decided to go along the Chinese path? To produce without a license?
  16. Skay
    Skay 10 October 2018 09: 37
    0
    And licenses and patents, naturally, will not be bought.
    International law, they are already on the axis of the spit. Now the turn of the patent.
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 10 October 2018 10: 17
      0
      Quote: Skay
      International law

      there is only the right of the strong ... everything else is from the evil one ...
  17. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 October 2018 10: 22
    +1
    "Could there be a problem with copyright for the release of Russian weapons in America without a license?" ////
    ---
    Validity of patents and rights in military equipment is 25 years. Everything that was produced more than 25 years ago can be copied.
    1. Dart
      Dart 10 October 2018 22: 26
      0
      merino, probably, at a low start were all this time ... here ur ..... mm ... crippled)) laughing
  18. Conductor
    Conductor 10 October 2018 10: 29
    -2
    It brings big money to the patent law, so it’s mono to take Faberge firmly .. Although China spits on all these patent troubles.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 10 October 2018 11: 06
    -3
    Ours are silent again, although they could safely say that such a practice automatically zeros out all US patents in Russia. It is enough to issue the first batch of weapons and forget about patent law
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 10 October 2018 11: 56
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Our silent again

      TASS already has a statement from Kalashnikov. Does it not suit you?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 10 October 2018 12: 43
        -1
        Quote: sogdy
        TASS already has a statement from Kalashnikov.

        I want to read it, and not hear from your lips
        Quote: sogdy
        Does it not suit you?

        No, it doesn’t work. Americans do not hesitate to defend Hollywood products at the highest level. They file lawsuits in various organizations as right holders, and only Kalashnikov made a statement with us, although they didn’t rush to apologize to the Americans.
  20. Waldemar
    Waldemar 10 October 2018 11: 32
    +2
    Then Russia needs to launch an improved version of windows. Put the team on reverse engineering and pick out all the source code, remove the garbage and rebuild. Rostelecom Veranda. And do not care about the license.
    1. sogdy
      sogdy 10 October 2018 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: Valdemar
      Then Russia needs to launch an improved version of windows.

      What for?! Domestic systems (BESM, M, DVK and a dozen more living ones) are Unix-like, their OS is closer to System V than to OS \ 380, to which current Windows belongs.
  21. Nitarius
    Nitarius 10 October 2018 12: 13
    0
    but this is bad .... they take our tactics into service .. the dogs began to grow wiser!
  22. TOR2
    TOR2 10 October 2018 15: 51
    +1
    Hike behind the "genre crisis" puddle. To be precise, no one particularly followed the licensing legislation in the field of weapons during the Cold War, and scandals did not arise if the stolen technology was used exclusively for domestic consumption. Establishment of production will be profitable only for certain volumes. It is too expensive to produce exclusively for the supply of various kinds of barmaley. For sale in foreign markets? So you can easily create anti-advertising for them. Such a company has sunk to a banal theft. In addition, the highlight of any small arms is the metal alloy from which it is made. The network somehow came across a comparative analysis of the original TT pistol and its Chinese counterfeit.
  23. Dart
    Dart 10 October 2018 22: 21
    0
    how interesting and clumsy it is possible to explain one’s squint, stupidity of old riflemen’s designers and lack of, as they say, touched the future, however. wassat
  24. Dart
    Dart 10 October 2018 22: 23
    0
    Quote: sogdy
    TASS already has a statement from Kalashnikov.

    give a link, if not difficult, tedious spaces honestly, laziness.
  25. razved
    razved 10 October 2018 22: 56
    0
    And what about the fight against pirated products, for which so scandalous advocates?
  26. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 11 October 2018 08: 17
    0
    So Kalash they already rivet. And copyright will be spit on, like the Bulgarians ...