Israel will still destroy C-300 in Syria. NI explained when

Western journalists are haunted by the delivery of C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems by Russia to Syria. So the well-known American magazine The National Interest with its “expert” Dave Majumdar decided to explain why the Russian C-300 "will not make the weather in Syria."

As Majumdar writes, Israel will still destroy the Russian complexes, and this will happen after the Russian military transfers full control over them to the Syrian calculations. At the same time, F-300 will be necessarily involved in the destruction of the C-35 air defense systems, which "can deal with Russian anti-aircraft systems relatively easily." According to the American "expert", F-35 was originally created to suppress and destroy air defense systems, such as C-300, and with the receipt of a new software update Block 3F and Block 4, fifth-generation airplanes will be even more formidable in the destruction of Russian ZRS. Israeli F-35 will be upgraded to Block 3F + until December 2021.

The only reason that the Israeli F-35 has not yet destroyed the C-300, is that they are still under the control of the Russian military, the author writes. Even without waiting for a new software update for their aircraft, Israelis can already strike at the C-300 ground-to-ground missile system, but most likely they will wait another three months, during which the Russians will teach Syrian calculations, and after handing over the Syrian control to Syrian control, they will strike.

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[Gray brother]

The stakes are high. There are huge contracts at stake.

[Bykov.]

Quote: Gray Brother

The stakes are high. There are huge contracts at stake.

Well yes. For promotional purposes only and not enough downed F-35.

[volot-voin]

Quote: Bulls.

Well yes. For promotional purposes only and not enough downed F-35.

Israeli pilots probably destroyed the S-300 long ago, only they are afraid to be shot down by this system))))

Such anti-advertising of any of the potential buyers of the F-35 will make you think

I do not want to underestimate the aviation industry of a potential enemy in the form of F-35, but for every tricky one ....... they will always invent the S-300, S-400, and S-500.

[Kent0001]

It’s necessary to arrange this. Without fail.

[Dyusha90]

Support!

[krot]

Any S-300 will be under the guise of shells! I think it will be difficult for the Israelis ..

[Shahno]

Well, then, what is complicated .... AGM missiles and GBU bombs. It's about finance, that's all.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Shahno

Well, then, what is complicated .... AGM missiles and GBU bombs. It's about finance, that's all.

Well, Israel has no problems in finances, 38 US laurels tossed into the war. They themselves are afraid of directly contacting Russia, and they are looking for fools around the world.

[krot]

Plus EW, what are we in front of the whole planet .. Israel has no chance! And the Armor all AGM and GBU see and easily destroy!

[Shahno]

Once again I will explain, the matter is in finances and the quantity of these ammunition. And the second, well, in reb, we can, too, and not purchased, but ours (if about accessories).

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Shahno

Once again I will explain, the matter is in finances and the quantity of these ammunition.

Pavel, and it seems to me personally that the matter is not even in finances and ammunition, but in how far Russia and Israel will be ready to go in the Syrian conflict. And what will be the price of achieving goals, whatever they may be.

[Shahno]

Unfortunately, the generals and colonels cannot solve this. And therefore, the only way (to the military-political council in hand) is through negotiations .. Well, Norkin cannot agree, it is not his song.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Shahno

Once again I will explain, the matter is in finances and the quantity of these ammunition. And the second, well, in reb, we can, too, and not purchased, but ours (if about accessories).

Come on, don’t whistle, we’d sorted your drone, rank ...

[Rusfaner]

There is always a chance! Technology is controlled by people. Well, and the price of the "question", of course.

[kingi_sepp]

see and easily destroy

Did they "destroy" a lot? And bombed targets in Syria proliferate by themselves, from dampness. It's all about the number of hats - is it enough to throw it.

[Tersky]

Quote: kingi_sepp

It's all about the number of hats - is it enough to throw.

There will be enough hats, but there may be problems with bales ....

[Shahno]

Well, let’s look. Netanyahu, I think there are other plans for what to spend money on. Another infrastructure for OTR and BR needs to be developed.
Soon negotiations, there will be clearer.

[Dyusha90]

Found already....

[Tusv]

Quote: Shahno

Well, then, what is complicated .... AGM missiles and GBU bombs. It's about finance, that's all.

Do not forget that together with the S-300 Ours promised electronic warfare and 2 command centers. All this "joy" for the Jews will be managed by Russian officers. Well, Tartus and Khmeimim already exist. Because it is not safe to attack GBU with bombs, you need to climb to a height of 10 km.
But! For once, Majumdar is right! While at least one Russian will be sitting on the S-300, the attack on the S-300 is fatal for Israel

[aws4]

the first sane koment and that from a friend from Israel

[Brother]

What does it mean ... hmm I don’t think who will bring it down, say S-300 or S-400 it will be equally beneficial!
Well, the "reverse" side ... also DOES!

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Breard

What does it mean ... hmm I don’t think who will bring it down, say S-300 or S-400 it will be equally beneficial!

It will be beneficial p-s first. And they will add oil to the fire from their whole wide American soul.

[credo]

Quote: Gray Brother

The stakes are high. There are huge contracts at stake.

Stupid excuses for their aircraft couch expert from NO could not come up.
Such anti-advertising of any of the potential buyers of the F-35 will make you think.

[Barzha]

Stupid excuses for their aircraft couch expert from NO could not come up.
Such anti-advertising of any of the potential buyers of the F-35 will make you think.

.
The F-35 is the most modern aircraft and its ability to "get", frankly, the outdated S-300 is presented as some kind of super-achievement ... Plus, it seems that the author is sure that the S-300 themselves will not hide behind other systems. Like, put them in an open field (or desert) ...
But my question is: It is not clear how many installations will be delivered? 4 things. it is practically nothing!

[credo]

Quote: Barzha

The F-35 is the most modern aircraft and its ability to "get", frankly, the outdated S-300 is presented as some kind of super-achievement ... Plus, it seems that the author is sure that the S-300 themselves will not hide behind other systems. Like, put them in an open field (or desert) ...
But my question is: It is not clear how many installations will be delivered? 4 things. it is practically nothing!

I understand that you not only know this plane thoroughly, t.s. "to the screw", but also exploited it for a long time. Then you, as well as the "expert", have nothing to fear and the number of complexes delivered to Syria does not matter.

[Barzha]

I understand that you not only know this plane thoroughly, t.s. "to the screw", but also exploited it for a long time. Then you, as well as the "expert", have nothing to fear and the number of complexes delivered to Syria does not matter.

I don't understand your sarcasm. F-35, an aircraft developed in the early 2000s, taking into account the capabilities of enemy air defense systems in service. Including the S-300, developed in the first half of the 70s (!!!). This aircraft must a priori "be able" to overcome such systems. The capabilities of the S-300 are also not unlimited, as I understand it. Let's say the maximum target destruction range is 300 km. But this is under ideal conditions! Those. at an altitude of 10-11 km, at a speed of 850-1000 km / h. But this is when the enemy offers to shoot himself down. The effective range (the probability of hitting 0,9) is 30-60 km ... But the F-35 does not even need to enter the 300-km zone. It is enough for him to release the AGM-158 KR from a distance of 350-400 km. But the S-300 or, in extreme cases, "Pantsir" should already work on them. So the S-300 was unlikely to have been put in order to "land" the F-35. Their task is to "wet" the missiles. Well, and with a lucky coincidence, pilots are suckers who do not value their lives.
And as for the number of installations ... An effective unit of the S-300 air defense system is the Division, which includes 12 launchers. To cover, for example, Damascus, such divisions need at least 2. So count ... Although in Russia they are now being removed from duty, switching to the S-400. And in Russia in 2016 there were 125 divisions. Why not throw a dozen from the bottom to the "brotherly Syrian people" ?.

[credo]

Quote: Barzha

F-35, an aircraft developed in the early 2000s, taking into account the capabilities of enemy air defense systems in service. Including the S-300, developed in the first half of the 70s (!!!). This aircraft must a priori "be able" to overcome such systems. The capabilities of the S-300 are also not unlimited, as I understand it.

But what a beginning that was encouraging for NI - "... the F-35 is the most modern aircraft and its ability to" get ", frankly, the outdated S-300 to be presented as some kind of super achievement ...", and now you are slipped to "... This aircraft a priori must" be able "to overcome such systems. The capabilities of the S-300 are also not unlimited, as I understand it ..."
That is, your unshakable confidence in the F-35 vanished somewhere and there were notes of doubt "... should be able to ..." and "... as I understand it ...".
I don’t want to anticipate the events and sing the praises of the S-300, but as I understand it, if the product has proved itself to be good in the Russian army and in the US army, it is usually not scrapped and upgraded, so I assume that the system developed in the USSR has undergone modernization more than once, and only its specialists and the results of its use on the battlefield can speak of its current abilities, and not sofa experts and specialists in fortune telling on coffee grounds.

[Barzha]

but as I understand it, if the product has proved itself to be good in the Russian army and in the US army, then it’s usually not written off for scrap and upgraded

The T-34 was also a great tank for its time. But is it possible to modernize it so that it would be relevant today? The question is rhetorical. Although the Soviet air defenses were always ahead of their time and the Syrians from the S-75 knocked out the Israeli F-16, they also have the ability to become obsolete. Therefore, we are replacing the S-300 with the S-400. And later, the S-500 ... The work of the air defense system on an aircraft is always a duel, and with a great deal of luck (or bad luck). During the War, people from the "three-line" planes shot down ... But this does not mean that the "three-line" is an effective means of air defense.

But what a beginning that was encouraging for NI - "... the F-35 is the most modern aircraft and its ability to" get ", frankly, the outdated S-300 to be presented as some kind of super achievement ...", and now you are slipped to "... This aircraft a priori must" be able "to overcome such systems. The capabilities of the S-300 are also not unlimited, as I understand it ..."
That is, your unshakable confidence in the F-35 vanished somewhere and there were notes of doubt "... should be able to ..." and "... as I understand it ...".

And where is the contradiction? For you, the F-35 is not a "state-of-the-art" aircraft? Or do you think that its designers, when designing, did not take into account the parameters of the "operation" of the S-300 and did not try to neutralize them? if so, then ... You shouldn't consider a potential adversary so stupid. And the "ability" to destroy the S-300 does not mean that always, in any case, the F-35 will do it 100% and nothing can stop it. Here a lot, or almost everything, depends on the combat skill of both the pilot and the operator of the S-300. That is why I am writing that it is impossible to present as a "super achievement" the ability of the F-35 to bypass air defense systems created 30 years earlier.
But I'm pretty sure that not a single F-35 will be shot down by an S-300. And not because some are not capable of shooting down such aircraft, but the latter can overcome them with 100% probability. And because these aircraft will not even enter the S-300 operation area. Read what I wrote above and study the material so as not to be such a "couch expert".

[credo]

Quote: Barzha

And where is the contradiction? For you, the F-35 is not a "state-of-the-art" aircraft? Or do you think that its designers, when designing, did not take into account the parameters of the "operation" of the S-300 and did not try to neutralize them? if so, then ... You shouldn't consider a potential adversary so stupid. And the "ability" to destroy the S-300 does not mean that always, in any case, the F-35 will do it 100% and nothing can stop it. Here a lot, or almost everything, depends on the combat skill of both the pilot and the operator of the S-300. That is why I am writing that it is impossible to present as a "super achievement" the ability of the F-35 to bypass air defense systems created 30 years earlier.

Thank you for the educational program and your confidence interspersed with doubts. I can do that too, but I will not, because I don’t think the enemy is stupid, but I will not talk about the "most modern" aircraft. What for. Life and practice will judge, and let the lovers of theorize suck magazine performance characteristics.

[Fan-fan]

Guys, here I am inserting a fragment of text from the analysis of a similar situation, only about the S-400, I think it will look like for the S-300:
"The funniest thing is that it's not about whether the S-400 can shoot down an F-22, but about whether the S-400 can survive if it is attacked by several F-22s. So, if you organize the attack correctly, the S-400 has the chances to survive. practically equal to zero.
The full-fledged S-400 air defense system consists of 8 units under general control. Therefore, the entire system can fire at the same time 80 targets.
The Americans have a planning guided aerial bomb GBU-39, with a range of 110 km, on the F-22 8 of these bombs. Moreover, the price of this bomb is several times lower than the price of the S-400 anti-aircraft missile. Further, the S-400 radar can detect the F-22 only at a distance of 28 km (this is the data of our experts, their experts claim 16 km), so our anti-aircraft gunners will not see the American F-22, which can safely drop bombs. Even if we estimate that our S-400 will work 100% - it will hit all 80 bombs, then to guarantee the suppression of such our air defense system, you will need 11 F-22. The Americans now have 187 of these aircraft.
It would be possible to cover the S-400 system with several Pantsir air defense systems (one Pantsir can simultaneously fire on 4 targets, which means that 88 bombs require 22 air defense systems), but this is impossible, since it is very expensive, our industry cannot produce a sufficient amount of such weapons ... "

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Hmm, you can link, the source. Next, the S-400 radar can detect the F-22 only at a distance of 28 km (this is the data of our experts, their experts claim 16 km)

[Alexander Galaktionov]

This is not the S-300 and not the S-400, but the Buk M-3 Low-altitude 9S36 radar systems are capable of detecting and "capturing" an air target of the AGM-158A "JASSM" type (flight height 20 m, EPR within 0,1 m2) at a distance of 17 - 18 km, which was previously not available for any modification of the Buk air defense system.

[SETTGF]

Fan-fan! You are so illiterate! First, learn the materiel than write nonsense, hiding behind stupid arguments - supposedly our experts said, take it and count it ... you will end up in a puddle with your own delirium and no more, couch strategist and no more!

[SETTGF]

Fan-fan! At a distance of 304 km within the line of sight, the F-35 will be easily visible and then, when it enters the 48N6 missile range, it will be destroyed ...

[Vanek]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Further, the S-400 radar can detect the F-22 only at a distance 28 km (this is the data of our experts, their experts claim 16 km),

And you do not confuse anything?

28 km it's around the corner. Well, in the sense of not so far.

[Yura]

Quote: Barzha

S-300, developed in the first half of the 70s (!!!) years.

So what, the S 300 was constantly being modernized, the latest missile modifications are those that were being prepared for the S 400. Then I read that two regiments would be delivered, one S 300 PM2, the second S 300 VM (Antey, developed after the appearance of F 35). What's the bottom line? As a result, 48 launchers, 192 missiles, and another reload, plus an unknown amount. The carapace is also in the system. Further, the C 300 will receive target designations from a single center, that is, the Russian one, but the Syrians will press the buttons, Russia will be out of business here "as it were." And do not forget that the Russian Center is not only located in Syria, it is also stationary installations in Russia, this is everything that can be in the sea and in space. Israel will have a very big chance of being left without F 35.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

KR AGM-158 If only such and that is not a fact! Americans fired with them, here

[Dyusha90]

In Serbia, the Americans thought that they had the most modern inconspicuous aircraft and they were shot down with a S-125koy

[Andrey Chistyakov]

When they knock you know how much.

[Barzha]

When they knock you know how much.

Andrey, if you are talking about the F-35, then I am almost sure that not one will be shot down. Unless he is sitting at the helm, who decides to check "how this thing works" for himself.

[Locksmith]

Quote: Barzha

The F-35 is the most modern aircraft and its ability to "get", frankly, outdated S-300s to be presented as some kind of super achievement ...

C300 is primarily easy to control from ... C400. If the Elder sees-to direct a missile — like sending two bytes, this is exactly what the system is dangerous for — it is fully inscribed in the country's air defense.

[STORM 12]

s30. have long been controlled in flight from our fighter

[kingi_sepp]

4 things. it is practically nothing!

If only they would read something, before writing .. 4 pieces of what ???
4 S-300 PMU divisions, these are 12-15 launchers of 4 TPK (48-60 TPK), 3 backlight and guidance radars and control cabins.
// https://topwar.ru/29485-zenitnaya-raketnaya-sistema-s-300p.html //
Plan up to 6 divisions. This is a total of 90 TPK ideally. Only this will not save the Araps.

[tlauicol]

Quote: kingi_sepp

4 things. it is practically nothing!

If only they would read something, before writing .. 4 pieces of what ???

4 launchers (16 missiles) - Shoigu

[papas-57]

There is nothing eternal in the world, there are no weapons that are not killed, planes that are not shot down, ships that are not sunk. If you really want to, then you can destroy everything. The question is, what price will you have to pay for it. Will the price be too high?

[Barzha]

If you really want to, then you can destroy everything. The question is, what price will you have to pay for it. Will the price be too high?

Gold words! Many "warriors" here view one and the other as abnormal. Some (Israel), because they believe that they will openly climb under the fire of others' missiles. And others (Syria), because they believe that their main goal is not missiles, but their carriers, which will try to shoot down even outside their airspace. At the risk of running into a full-scale response from Israel. I think that everyone understands perfectly well - Israel is that their planes will now detect from the moment of take-off and they will not be on the rampage, entering the zone where the Syrians can reach them, and the Syrians will "land" Israeli missiles without trying get the planes. For Israel, in this case, a huge disadvantage is that the effectiveness of their air force will drop by an order of magnitude. And this is very critical for them. They are not the United States, which can afford to shoot 60 Tomahawks "into the world, like a pretty penny" and not worry too much about it. But neither Israel nor Syria needs a full-scale war at all.

[Aaron Zawi]

I am scared to imagine what will begin now.

[Svarog]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

I am scared to imagine what will begin now.

Nothing will start, I think, you simply won’t fly over the territory of Syria .. for half a year .. or maybe in general ... But if you decide to destroy the C300 .. then ... I think everything will begin ..

[hrych]

With that kind of name like Dave Majumdar, it's not like the S-300 and the Leaky (oh iron) Dome can be scared By the way in Israel there will be an earthquake soon

[hrych]

The point is not the Israelis, but the stupid neighbors who lack a soul, neither discipline, nor the competent use of available weapons. So you have to protect this nonsense.

[Troll]

Hey, on the farm, do me a favor, turn on the Cyrillic, respect us. In Windows, Linux, Android and Mac, it turns on once or twice. And if you write from work, then you do it in vain. They work at work, not surf the Internet.

[Major Yurik]

Quote: Troll

Hey, on the farm, do me a favor, turn on the Cyrillic, respect us. In Windows, Linux, Android and Mac, it turns on once or twice. And if you write from work, then you do it in vain. They work at work, not surf the Internet.

He is still a young trolley, until they turned on the Cyrillic, he did not work!
And as for the Jewish scarecrows, they say let's break the 300th, so the macgregor also shouted and twisted his hands in front of Habib, and then he worked in full. So with the Jews, let them yell, they are not so scared!

[Vanek]

Quote: Troll

They work at work, not surf the Internet.

Or maybe it's such a job.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Svarog

But if you decide to destroy the C300 .. then ... I think everything will start ..

But Assad will sit and wait until the Jews trample down to crush Syria’s air defense ... in addition to the S-300, the TORs and Armor and Buki are delivered there, and every month there the air defense is more and more layered. At the same time, there remain two of our bases and some jump airfields. In the meantime, they will not train the Syrians as they should, the Russian missiles will not leave them alone with the complexes. And now, after all this, we ask mercy, gentlemen of Israel. There we will see whose gut is thicker.
And you can declare anything.
And given the fact that after the war, the restoration of infrastructure, gas pipelines, development of oil fields, etc., will be handed over to the Russian Federation, I do not think that the Kremlin will like Israel’s missile attacks, and therefore, the Russian military will not leave the posts on the S-300 even after the war.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Svarog

But if you decide to destroy the C300 ..

Jews began to greet and bully Russia with such statements. But they started so softly ...., Hezbola, terrorists from Iran, rocket factories, and the small box just opened, to do everything to undermine Russia's position in Syria and the Middle East there wouldn’t be any other reasons found. They didn’t understand what they were playing with. They won’t understand when it will be too late. The main thing is to integrate Syria’s S-300 into the common system with the Russian air forces, so that the air defense would work as a common organism throughout Syria. was the main problem. I think our specialists can handle it.

[Vanek]

Quote: Svarog

But if you decide to destroy the C300 .. then ... I think everything and will begin..

... Will end

[kapitan92]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

I am scared to imagine what will begin now.

Nothing starts. Israel aims to destroy the C 300 systems. This is understandable. How this will be accomplished: aviation, DRG, using anti-tank systems does not matter.
Let me remind you that when in 2007 a blow was struck at a nuclear reactor under construction in Syria - an attack for which Israel officially never claimed responsibility - the Syrian air defense completely did not understand where the planes came from and where they went: there was only an explosion, and the target was eliminated. Although at that time, Syria was armed with radars of the previous generation - from the S-200.
It is impossible to train the Arabs in the tactically competent use of such weapons in 3 months. And is it possible at all? Sometimes, I wonder. Zonal air defense includes not only the S 300 complexes, but also the Pantsiri and Buki complexes, well-organized security, and not only the locations of the complexes.
A huge role is played by the locations of the complexes, given the difficult terrain.
With a tactically competent location and use, of course, destruction will be minimized.

[Vita vko]

Quote: kapitan92

With tactically competent location and use

They said that Russian officers would be at the head of the calculations. Therefore, we should expect a full-scale confrontation between the Russian and American-Israeli strategies for conducting air and air operations. In intensity not less than in Vietnam. The only restriction would be the non-use of nuclear weapons. The rest of the spectrum of the most modern technologies will be applied 100%. The Israeli lobby in the United States pushed through a law on the allocation of 38 billion. $ For military needs. Such a huge amount of money the government of Natanyahu is now simply forced to work out, even at the cost of the blood of its own people.
Moreover, the S-300 systems operate on the principle of a mobile air defense system. It is very difficult to calculate their location, and when it turns on it will be too late. Even the F-35 will not be able to leave the zone of guaranteed destruction of the S-300 in a few minutes. Therefore, the IDF will launch its first attacks not on air defense systems, but on air defense infrastructure, these are radio intelligence stations and electronic warfare systems, communication centers.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Vita VKO

They said that Russian officers would be at the head of the calculations.

In the early stages it is possible, but the goal is to train and test the Syrians. (IMHO)

Quote: Vita VKO

Moreover, the S-300 systems operate on the principle of a mobile air defense system. It is very difficult to calculate their location, and when it turns on it will be too late.

This is disputable with the existing methods of space and intelligence reconnaissance.

Quote: Vita VKO

Even the F-35 will not be able to leave the zone of guaranteed destruction of the S-300 in a few minutes.

They may not go there, given the topography and performance characteristics of the damaging means.

[Vita vko]

Quote: kapitan92

They may not go there,

for this you need to know where exactly "you need not to go", after all, the S-300 is not a semi-stationary S-125 and S-75. But even the Vietnamese managed to carry them out in their hands and hide them in the jungle from retaliatory strikes by American aviation in minutes.
Israeli intelligence in a poor country is certainly a powerful force. But counterintelligence also needs somewhere to train and gain experience, not all of them sit in their offices and collect gossip.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Vita VKO

But even their Vietnamese managed to carry and hide in the jungle from the retaliatory strikes of American aircraft in minutes on their hands.

That is the point. Arabs are far from Vietnamese. It’s easier for them to drop everything; there are enough examples.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: kapitan92

That is the point. Arabs are far from Vietnamese. It’s easier for them to drop everything; there are enough examples.

but enlighten me, and Arabs and Jews are not the same 90%? it’s like Russian and Belarusian .... why weapons in the hands of Jews (practically Arabs) are a dangerous weapon, and in the hands of Arabs an expensive impregnable toy ???.

[Shahno]

The terrain in Syria is not the same, unlike Vietnam. Attacked at a glance, and the attackers have somewhere to hide. Everything will be decided by accurate and timely reconnaissance (including radio engineering).
And the Vietnamese were one, unlike the Syrians ...

[Locksmith]

Quote: Vita VKO

Therefore, the IDF will launch its first attacks not on air defense systems, but on air defense infrastructure, these are radio intelligence stations and electronic warfare systems, communication centers.

They won’t inflict anything anywhere, as it was before, so they will continue to shoot at the Iranians, if they get a command to shoot down, they will be beaten, and it doesn’t matter what kind of space the plane is in, but the Israelis’s nerves will burn themselves unmeasured, they perfectly understand that the C300 is C400 subordinate system and missiles compatible. If, after receiving a missile from C400, a rocket even 600 km away from the control unit can go inertia to guidance on a distant target, that is, roughly speaking, the main thing is that you have someone to press the start button on the C300, and if you launch a missile from the c400, the C300 will provide only illumination goals.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

I’m scared to imagine what will begin

By the end of the debate, about 30 Israeli aircraft will be shot down. The fighters of the stroybat, like no one knows the possibilities better With 300 and the Israeli Air Force.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

By the end of the debate, about 30 Israeli aircraft will be shot down

you forgot 0 to attribute ..... already a dozen and a half destroyed ..... without losses from the Arab side, and the attack has not yet begun !!!

[Barzha]

I am scared to imagine what will begin now.

Aron, answer me one question, to which I still NO ONE the Israeli could not answer clearly. Not here, not my friends in Israel ... Can you answer? "Why is Israel bombing units of the Syrian army, and on the territory of the Syrian state, far from the border of Israel? Do you think that if ISIS approached your borders in due time, it would be easier for you?"

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Barzha

I am scared to imagine what will begin now.

Aron, answer me one question, to which I still NO ONE the Israeli could not answer clearly. Not here, not my friends in Israel ... Can you answer? "Why is Israel bombing units of the Syrian army, and on the territory of the Syrian state, far from the border of Israel? Do you think that if ISIS approached your borders in due time, it would be easier for you?"

I will answer as a former Israeli - they beat the Syrians when they cover the Iranians and Hezbollah. From the point of view of the Israelis, the question is not whether there will be a clash with the Persians and Nasrallah, but when it will be. IG Jews do not take seriously. Thus, everything is being done so that Hezbollah does not receive weapons in the first place, so that the IRGC does not settle in Syria in the second.

[Barzha]

IG Jews do not take seriously.

Now you can. And in 2010, no one took them seriously. And in 2014, they already took half of Iraq and almost all of Syria. And then they would go further, since their goal was not even these countries, but the capture of Muslim shrines in Mecca and Medina. And you think that they would pass Israel? And how many Israelites would die then? But they would just be cut! All in a row. Despite the gender and age. Yes, the Israeli army, with the support of the United States, would most likely fight back, but the Arabs from the Gaza Strip would seem to be kindergarten in sandals, compared to these fanatics. Second ... Whom to accept on its territory, any state decides for itself, on the simple basis that this is its SOVEREIGN right. The exception, of course, is terrorist organizations, which are recognized as such by the UN. How to ensure the security of the territory of Israel, you need to talk about this with countries that can provide this.

[Krasnodar]

How do you imagine the IDF clash with hundreds of tanks, a couple of thousand pickups with the support of the incomprehensible ISIS artillery and aviation in the form of quadrocopters with grenades in the Golan Heights? IS is dangerous in a place where centralized power is weak and there is support for the local Sunni population. Against the fourth in the world in the number of military aircraft, thousands of tanks, tens of thousands of fairly skilled, the bulk of the infantrymen sniffing gunpowder, they will not be able to concentrate a little more or less serious shock fist. Demolished from the air and the RZSO before they climb the Golan.

[Barzha]

How do you imagine the IDF collision with a hundred tanks, a couple of thousand pickups with the support of the incomprehensible ISIS artillery and aviation in the form of quadrocopters

History does not like the subjunctive mood, but why do you think that IS would attack the IDF head-on, like cavalry, with sabers naked, a tank corps? The basis of the IS command was the generals of Saddam's army, who taught "strategy and tactics" in Soviet military universities. So, how they would act is an open question and God forbid we will never know.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Barzha

How do you imagine the IDF collision with a hundred tanks, a couple of thousand pickups with the support of the incomprehensible ISIS artillery and aviation in the form of quadrocopters

History does not like the subjunctive mood, but why do you think that IS would attack the IDF head-on, like cavalry, with sabers naked, a tank corps? The basis of the IS command was the generals of Saddam's army, who taught "strategy and tactics" in Soviet military universities. So, how they would act is an open question and God forbid we will never know.

The question is really open, including because IG is breathing incense.

[Fan-fan]

Comrade, a former Jew, do not shield actual Jews and do not lie. The Syrian army never covered Hezbollah and the Iranians. And Israel itself claims that it strikes at those Syrian warehouses where weapons are located that can be transferred to Hezbollah, that is, simply on suspicion that they may or may not transfer.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Comrade, a former Jew, do not shield actual Jews and do not lie. The Syrian army never covered Hezbollah and the Iranians. And Israel itself claims that it strikes at those Syrian warehouses where weapons are located that can be transferred to Hezbollah, that is, simply on suspicion that they may or may not transfer.

Firstly, I am a real Jew, secondly, the Syrians always open fire when Israel bombes the Iranians in the Assad territory, thirdly there are IRGC bases in Syria - read, learn the materiel and come again.

[Barzha]

Syrians always open fire when Israel bombs Iranians in Assad territory

Well, it would be very strange if, during the Second World War, the Nazis would iron "Fokers", say, a unit of the Polish Army, and the anti-aircraft guns of the Red Army would be silent. "Why? Not us they are hammering, but our allies!" It's the same here. The IRGC officially (unlike the USA, France, Turkey, etc.) are located on ATS territory. These are two key points - officially and in the territory of the ATS! To help this same ATS in the war with the IG and other irreconcilable fanatics. And why should the Syrians be silent when they hammer their allies, and even less so themselves! Those. Israel can respond to missile launches from the territory of the SG, and Syria, when you can not hammer its territory? What's the difference?

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Barzha

Syrians always open fire when Israel bombs Iranians in Assad territory

Well, it would be very strange if, during the Second World War, the Nazis would iron "Fokers", say, a unit of the Polish Army, and the anti-aircraft guns of the Red Army would be silent. "Why? Not us they are hammering, but our allies!" It's the same here. The IRGC officially (unlike the USA, France, Turkey, etc.) are located on ATS territory. These are two key points - officially and in the territory of the ATS! To help this same ATS in the war with the IG and other irreconcilable fanatics. And why should the Syrians be silent when they hammer their allies, and even less so themselves! Those. Israel can respond to missile launches from the territory of the SG, and Syria, when you can not hammer its territory? What's the difference?

And who said you can’t? )))
This is war.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Krasnodar

I will answer as a former Israeli

oh ..... whether the Israeli passport you like the promised citizenship at the moment does not have any relation to you ???? ..... I do not believe !!!

[poquello]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

I am scared to imagine what will begin now.

can you imagine? Yes? well, we'll see too

[Reserve buildbat]

If you believe this tabloid fortune-teller, in 3 months you should expect a "penguin fall"
Admins, make a column "Delirium from NI" in the section "humor"

[Andrey VOV]

Everything is gone !!!! Gypsum is removed, the client leaves !! Grab the station, the suitcase leaves !!!

[Lawyer]

Updated firmware for the C-300 has already been downloaded.

[Bykov.]

Something the Ameghikos so diligently push the Jews into the embrasure, that it becomes funny. And weak yourself ?!

[Svarog]

Quote: Bulls.

Something the Ameghikos so diligently push the Jews into the embrasure, that it becomes funny. And weak yourself ?!

So this is their corporate identity .. They crave war with us .. but they prefer to fight through allies ....

[Moskovit]

The world is heading for a nuclear war because of a handful of inadequate politicians and possessed billionaires. Do people in Syria, Israel, Russia and the United States want to die for these glands

[credo]

Quote: Moskovit

The world is heading for a nuclear war because of a handful of inadequate politicians and possessed billionaires. Do people in Syria, Israel, Russia and the United States want to die for these glands

The fight is not for the glands and everyone knows about it very well

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Moskovit

Do people in Syria, Israel, Russia and the United States want to die for these glands

Now comes the warrior for the truth. And first of all, this warrior, everyone leads with himself. Judging by the comments, the lie wins for now.

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Moskovit

Do people in Syria, Israel, Russia and the United States want to die for these glands

Now comes the warrior for the truth. And first of all, this warrior, everyone leads with himself. Judging by the comments, the lie wins for now.

for the truth ...
The war goes for resources.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Moskovit

The world is heading for a nuclear war because of a handful of inadequate politicians and possessed billionaires. Do people in Syria, Israel, Russia and the United States want to die for these glands

Nobody wants to die, just talk about something. Remember childhood - and who is stronger, Jackie Chan or Van Dam?

[ultra]

Quote: Krasnodar

Remember childhood - and who is stronger, Jackie Chan or Van Dam?

In my childhood, they weren’t heard of!

[Krasnodar]

Quote: ultra

Quote: Krasnodar

Remember childhood - and who is stronger, Jackie Chan or Van Dam?

In my childhood, they weren’t heard of!

I'm 41, so I remember the heyday of video salons, Rambo and CCCatch badges, Sabrina and Sandra, the Greek Fig tree, Emmanuelle and more

[ultra]

Well then, it is clear!

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Krasnodar

Remember childhood - and who is stronger, Jackie Chan or Van Dam?

Budulai !! rolls both

Quote: ultra

In my childhood, they weren’t heard of!

for sure!

[tlauicol]

Who else does not have a bride ... that is, who else did not write about Israel and the S-300?

[MKPU-115]

Quote: Tlauicol

Who else does not have a bride ... that is, who else did not write about Israel and the S-300?

and who are you ? the groom?
you still have time ...

[shark]

On how the Western world loves all kinds of fabulous child prodigies))) Now here is the F-35. Not a plane, but the future today. And all so invisible, and all such copes with air defense. Only to us, normal people, it is clear that this is a PR and a banal commercial raskrutka. But in reality it will be like in Yugoslavia. When old Soviet rockets shot down the vaunted American stealth. Something has not been heard about them since then. Well, I’m directly waiting for the Semites, who are overgrown with new firmware, to fly to destroy the S-300. This will end the whole promotion))))

[Ra-ra]

Tired of procrastinating this topic. This is not a confrontation. This gain (sooner or later they would have put the S-300) and the answer to arrogance, no more. Do not consider our MO idiots. They will not understand the hint and provoke it again, the answer will already be different. Russia in general has not really taken up BV yet. Running-in equipment is on. It’s ridiculous to talk about the confrontation of an ant (albeit the most fashionable in the courtyard of the military base) with the boot of a Russian soldier.

[rocket757]

They can kill ... if there is no command to destroy the media.

[Roman070280]

I doubt that it will come to a real collision ..
Although, of course, destroying the S-300 is much easier than not allowing it to be destroyed ..

[Rusj]

Why are you straightforward !? You try to fly up to her! Therefore, there is so much howling that this is not sooooo easy, and combined with all systems. And the Russians will leave from there oh how not soon! You comrade know how many decades there have been leased base! And how the war will end there, the fly won’t even fly because the God-chosen people have been howling for almost a month now ..

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Rusj

What are you really simpler !? You try to fly up to her!

Who served in air defense?

[Rusj]

I served in the tank troops mech. water ST sergeant MBT.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Who served in air defense?

the operator of cabin A, escort and speed guidance .... old man s-75 !!

[Roman070280]

I’m not an expert, but I’m doing fine with mathematics .. Therefore, I’ll still consider that 5 attacking missiles, a system of 4 protective launchers will not hit ..
And for the money, too, the alignment is not in favor of the S-300 ..

[MIG00001]

The question is whether Israel will risk substituting the Americans using the F35, if they were knocked down to fail the entire company of Americans with the most expensive aircraft

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: MIG00001

The question is whether Israel will risk substituting the Americans using the F35, if they were knocked down by the entire company of Americans with the most different aircraft.

They will prepare the raid very carefully, and they can do it, though what happens next ... although their puppeteer doesn’t really care ...

[saturn.mmm]

[/ quote] If he gets knocked down [quote]

Over night, the Israelites will collect the wreckage and say that there was nothing.

[Polite Moose]

According to Majumdar, Israel will destroy the Russian complexes anyway, and this will happen after the Russian military transfers complete control over them to the Syrian forces.

It is expected to spend 3 months on the preparation of calculations from the local ones (According to Shoigu). I suppose that by that time they plan to finish the mess in Syria. But, this is just my guess. How it goes there further - we'll see. If the turmoil does not subside in 3 months, and the S-300s come under the control of the Syrian crews, then any provocation on the border will be enough to provoke a retaliatory strike from Israel, which will be followed by the combat work of the 300s, to which Israel cannot but respond. And how it will end - HZ. But the escalation of the conflict will be unambiguous. I don't think we need this kind of hockey. And if they do not meet the 3 months, then, I think, it will be correct to keep the intrigue and not tell whose calculations are sitting in the operator's rooms. This will help contain Israel's impulse to strike at Syrian territory. But from our side, we will have to move all divisions of the IRGC and Hezbollahs from the borders. Whatever the harsh couch warriors say, the war with Israel is not included in the plans of our leadership, tk. the number of launchers brought to Syria is clearly not for large-scale hostilities. This is such a "red line".

[basal]

I’ll insert my 5 cents. And who said that the Syrians have no prepared S-300 calculations? The supply contract was concluded a long time ago, but was suspended. I dare to suggest that there are trained personnel. 3 months - retraining time for a specific modification.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: basal

And who said that the Syrians have no prepared S-300 calculations?

Most likely it is. But, if right now Syrians are planted at the consoles, it will be just like an official invitation to Israel to test the S-300 for strength, without risking increasing the confrontation with us.

[XXXIII]

Israel will still destroy C-300 in Syria. NI explained when

The property of the Russian Federation will be broken, but on the hands? Or what will civilian boenges hide behind so that we cannot answer? In general, let them try, so far only words, and the S-300 is already in place ....

[Krasnodar]

Still not tired of chewing this chaff? S-300, F-35 ... and who is stronger, Bruce Lee or Schwarzenegger? Childhood.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Krasnodar

Still not tired of chewing this chaff? S-300, F-35 ... and who is stronger, Bruce Lee or Schwarzenegger? Childhood.

I also, with regret for myself, note that there are a lot of comments from the category "But my older brother will come and beat your older brother."

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Aaron Zawi

I am scared to imagine what will begin now.

Nothing will start, I think, you simply won’t fly over the territory of Syria .. for half a year .. or maybe in general ... But if you decide to destroy the C300 .. then ... I think everything will begin ..

Yes, I mean the comments.

[Sandor Clegane]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Yes, I mean the comments.

those who think before you write comments - you are well understood))

[Alexey-74]

Yes, indeed, the stakes are very high .... but the essence is always in one thing - there is no invulnerable weapon, there are inept use of it / use, and many other factors

[Samara_63]

If the S-300s are controlled by the Syrians, they will destroy ...

[BAI]

after the transfer of air defense systems under Syrian control, they will strike.

This is the problem. The Arab in general and the Syrian "warriors" in particular are capable of defeating even the S-1000.

[Rusj]

The Syrians, by the way, are fighting worthily in this war! The Syrians, even without the Russian Air Force, have been holding on well for several years against US international terrorists and their coalition, along with God's chosen ones. And now, even in fact, one of the strongest and most efficient armies has become under the guidance of our instructors! The Syrian army has been continuously fighting for 7 years.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Rusj

The Syrians, by the way, are fighting worthily in this war! The Syrians, even without the Russian Air Force, have been holding on well for several years against US international terrorists and their coalition, along with God's chosen ones. And now, even in fact, one of the strongest and most efficient armies has become under the guidance of our instructors! The Syrian army has been continuously fighting for 7 years.

During the Civil War, the Syrian army quickly divided into Druze, Alawites, Christians and Circassians on the one hand and Sunnis on the other. If it weren’t for the Russians with Hezbollah, Assad, at his best, would fend off in the West of Syria (Alavite) all sorts of Nusr, Daishi and other Hamas.

[Detective]

I’m reading these tales about good and noble Jews. I’m reading ... And these rhymes come to my mind - if cockroaches march on the table in the kitchen and arrange a mouse fight on the floor, then it’s time for you to stop fighting for peace. and throw all your strength into the struggle for purity ...
Well, to the Jews simply in a nutshell - he who swims shallowly croaks loudly!

[alexsipin]

Quote: Detective

Well, to the Jews simply in a nutshell - he who swims shallowly croaks loudly!

Who flies high, that long ....

[Tank hard]

Quote: Detective

I am reading these tales about good and noble Jews.

And I read, chuckle, even comment on laziness sometimes, well let while have fun before the deadline.

[dgonni]

I alone did not understand with whom Russia is fighting in Syria? Barmaleev seems to have won, why? have a snack with the IDF?

[Don Quixote]

Quote: dgonni

I alone did not understand with whom Russia is fighting in Syria?

Already in Ukraine you should know all this .. Everyone gathered in Kiev for you!
In plain text, no one will be blamed immediately ..

[Krasnodar]

Quote: dgonni

I alone did not understand with whom Russia is fighting in Syria? Barmaleev seems to have won, why? have a snack with the IDF?

Have not won yet. Struggling for maximum control over the territory of the former Syria for Assad.

[Don Quixote]

At the same time, the destruction of the S-300 air defense system will necessarily involve the F-35, which "can relatively easily deal with Russian anti-aircraft systems."

Such an operation has been developed for a long time .. If ours "screw up" or rather scarecrows, it will be a severe blow to the prestige of Russia and our Army in general.
I still hope that the General Staff is waiting for a real goal ... But hope each time melts away and in my head the words "They will betray, sell, betray, sell .." (from the Soviet era wartime ..)

[alexsipin]

Quote: Don Quixote

.But hope melts away every time and in my head the words "They will betray, sell, betray, sell.

Maybe just normal generals to send to Syria, and not those who look like Basharov and Petrov. Then we would have agreed with Israel and it would not have been necessary to wait for rockets from the sky on our own head.

[Fan-fan]

What would they agree on, so that the Jews would further destroy Syria?

[Don Quixote]

Quote: alexsipin

Then we would have agreed with Israel and it would not have been necessary to wait for rockets from the sky on our own.

It is useless to negotiate with Israel .. What happened in the BV massacre and ISIS is their work, definitely ..
They need a "Jewish Caliphate" and if not for Russia, they would have succeeded. Your Netanyahu is already going to Moscow as if to work, but only after his visits, blood starts pouring again and the bombing of Syria ...
Why

[Sands Careers General]

The only reason that the Israeli F-35s have not yet destroyed the S-300 is that they are still under the control of the Russian military, the author writes.

Sure sure))

the Israelis can now strike at the S-300 air defense system, but most likely they will wait

Blah blah))

after the transfer of air defense systems under Syrian control, strike

Three times ha ha))

Ordinary hexagons turned brown to utter unconsciousness, but for some reason Netanyahu is eager to bow to our President, almost every month. Think Jews))

[alexsipin]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

Ordinary hexagons turned brown to utter unconsciousness, but for some reason Netanyahu is eager to bow to our President, almost every month. Think Jews))

Because the confrontation with Russia does not meet the interests of Israel. But it greatly strengthens the position of Iran. Naturally, Natanyahu absolutely does not want to follow this path, since this will require new resources from Israel, which he could use in the confrontation with Iran. For this, he is not too lazy to fly to Moscow. And from a military point of view, Israel will be able to fight the S-300 and this will be demonstrated when the Syrian forces replace the Russian military.

[Sands Careers General]

as this will require new resources from Israel

For the first time I hear that Israel had resources))
Without the Yankees, you are nobody, a poor colony, but in the right place for their geopolitical interests. So, a country cottage.

[alexsipin]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

For the first time I hear that Israel had resources))
Without the Yankees, you are nobody, a poor colony, but in the right place for their geopolitical interests. So, a country cottage.

Your prayers. Only in this impoverished colony is the standard of living such that you have to stomp it for another half a century.

[Fan-fan]

Your standard of living depends on the United States, which is the guarantor of Israel’s economic stability and military security.
Without the grace of the United States, Israel would never have survived against its enemies. For example, part of the US arms and military equipment is donated to Israel at no cost as part of the Excess Defense Articles Transfer Program. The program allows the United States, after the end of the Cold War, to dispose of used equipment, the disposal and further use of which in the USA is associated with high costs. For 10 years - from 2001 to 2011 - Israel received over 330 million dollars worth of arms and military equipment.
Many Israeli leaders still retain the illusion that someone is obligated to help them - out of guilt, like the Germans or by tradition.
Here are the Germans:
Israel received from Germany for the Holocaust from 90 billion marks (60 billion dollars) to 25 billion euros (according to 2007), and these payments continue.
In 1977-1991, Israel received from Germany ammunition in the amount of 1,3 billion marks.
And later, Israel forced Germany to provide warships to Israel virtually free of charge.
Germany "almost free" supplies Israel with Dolphin submarines.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Your standard of living depends on the United States, which is the guarantor of Israel’s economic stability and military security.
Without the grace of the United States, Israel would never have survived against its enemies. For example, part of the US arms and military equipment is donated to Israel at no cost as part of the Excess Defense Articles Transfer Program. The program allows the United States, after the end of the Cold War, to dispose of used equipment, the disposal and further use of which in the USA is associated with high costs. For 10 years - from 2001 to 2011 - Israel received over 330 million dollars worth of arms and military equipment.
Many Israeli leaders still retain the illusion that someone is obligated to help them - out of guilt, like the Germans or by tradition.
Here are the Germans:
Israel received from Germany for the Holocaust from 90 billion marks (60 billion dollars) to 25 billion euros (according to 2007), and these payments continue.
In 1977-1991, Israel received from Germany ammunition in the amount of 1,3 billion marks.
And later, Israel forced Germany to provide warships to Israel virtually free of charge.
Germany "almost free" supplies Israel with Dolphin submarines.

That's right, only Israel made the main territorial conquests in 1967 - being under US sanctions, and with a modern head, the country's budget exceeds $ 100 billion.

[alexsipin]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

hexagons

By the way, are you in the same spirit to call two-headed?

[Sands Careers General]

By the way, you can call us Orthodox))
If I didn’t know.

[alexsipin]

By the way, you can call us Jews if you didn’t know.

[Sands Careers General]

I have offended you?))

[StudentVK]

Oh! Remember the first application in the Lebanon war C200)))

[Reader 2013]

I look so special nobody C200 even tried to destroy, they simply ignored why everyone decided that the C 300 would attack

[Zoigen47]

Due to the fact that Israeli aircraft strike in Syria it is much easier not to wait for their attacks, but to destroy Jewish aircraft at Israeli airfields. Waiting for their attacks and losing initiative is stupid.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Zoigen47

Due to the fact that Israeli aircraft strike in Syria it is much easier not to wait for their attacks, but to destroy Jewish aircraft at Israeli airfields. Waiting for their attacks and losing initiative is stupid.

Syrians will not do this. Otherwise, the port of Tartus, AB Hmeimim and a couple of American and Turkish bases will remain from their territory. Everything else will be Kurdistan))

[alexsipin]

Quote: Ischenko Gennady Vladimirovich

Read the short story "Unauthorized Flight" about our pilots in Syria. This can be achieved by "partnership" relations with Israel and the United States. To do this, type in Yandex or Google PROSA AUTOMATIC DEPARTURE and read the first prompt.

Great story, it will be so. Just don’t take into account that if a Russian plane flies up in Syria without permission, they will first try to bring down its own, because they decide that it will fly its plane to Israel.

[seregatara1969]

strike or attack? call it by your names

[Zoigen47]

Israeli planes attack in Syria, so it’s easier not to wait for their attack, but to destroy them at Israeli airfields. So the Jews will understand the danger of violating the borders of neighboring states.

[Sands Careers General]

Quote: alexsipin

Your prayers. Only in this impoverished colony is the standard of living such that you have to stomp it for another half a century.

With our prayers, and indeed with the American ones, you are. Unless, of course, history was taught, who saved you at one time from the possessed, who broke the project on creating you, and so on and so forth. And who is dancing you now.

[alexsipin]

Quote: Sands Career General

Quote: alexsipin

Your prayers. Only in this impoverished colony is the standard of living such that you have to stomp it for another half a century.

With our prayers, and indeed with the American ones, you are. Unless, of course, history was taught, who saved you at one time from the possessed, who broke the project on creating you, and so on and so forth. And who is dancing you now.

And who tried to destroy us in the 50-80s, supplying our enemies with weapons worth hundreds of billions of rubles for free.

[jack]

Quote: alexsipin

And who tried to destroy us in the 50-80s, supplying our enemies with weapons worth hundreds of billions of rubles for free.

By the way, even now Russia delivered the S-300 for free.

[Sailor]

Thank you for your concern, but we will somehow count our money ourselves and "make ends meet";) In matters of the security of Russia in general and our contingent in Syria in particular, we, as always, will find an opportunity to solve everything with minimal means. Teach friends from behind a puddle to save on shock weapons near our borders

[Cannonball]

By the way, even now Russia delivered the S-300 for free.

Admit it, enviously, that not to you?

[jack]

Well, under torture, I can admit it.
Israel has developed its own fairly efficient systems.

[Cannonball]

Already tested? Hope not on cats?

[Compasure]

Quote: alexsipin

And who tried to destroy us in the 50-80s, supplying our enemies with weapons worth hundreds of billions of rubles for free.

If you wanted to - then destroyed!

[jack]

Wanted is not the right word. Dreamed. That's just the gut was thin.

[Compasure]

you, the six-pointed ones, have always been distinguished by hypertrophied conceit, for which they cannot put up with you everywhere!

[Cannonball]

We then delivered free of charge, and you paid fabulous money for our enemies for the same weapons.

[jack]

Well, that’s how it works: someone prefers to live on a freebie, while someone prefers to live on his own.

[Cannonball]

Thu earned ... by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers ...

[Compasure]

As far as I remember, it was stated that the S-300 calculations will be commanded by ours (for the slow-witted Russian officers), i.e., following the logic of The National Interest, these systems will NEVER be destroyed.
Unless, of course, again there will be betrayal among our liberal leadership

[flicker]

Yeah, but the opinion of the retired Israeli officers is somewhat at odds with the position of the current leaders of Israel:

Retired Israeli officers claim Netanyahu's politics lead to disaster.

High-ranking officers and adviser to Shimon Peres went on a tour of the United States to tell American Jews about the mistakes of the Benjamin Netanyahu administration.

The group of Israelis is led by Major General Amnon Reshef, doomsday war hero ...

In their view, the current Israeli government is stubbornly pursuing annexation of territories in the West Bank, which means war, economic collapse and international isolation for Israel.

Last week, they also met with members of the US Congress.

A group of 30 Israeli and security officers previously published a special study that reveals the problems of Israel’s current policies regarding Palestinians. Four people have now set out to promote their findings among the Jewish establishment of the United States.

General Reshef wrote in a study that annexation would lead to the end of a Zionist state with a solid Jewish majority for future generations.

[alexsipin]

Quote: flicker

Yeah, but the opinion of the retired Israeli officers is somewhat at odds with the position of the current leaders of Israel:

This is a tour of representatives of the opposition party. To make an opinion according to them about Natanyahu is the same as for Hilary Clinton to try to hear an adequate opinion about Trump.

[Sailor]

Greetings gentlemen! For several years I have been reading articles here "without registration" with interest, but now I am "in the pack" too - now only "my own" can read comments, it seems.
On the subject: obviously, our calculations of the possibilities (in terms of materiel) of the parties are good, especially when you read people "in the subject", but of course, politicians will decide everything here. Indeed, to strike by a variety of means, and where they do not wait, we and they can. A little "invigorates" at least the fact that with that overwhelming numerical (and to be honest, by many means and qualitative) advantage, the "partners" have the sense to stop. We live in interesting times

[LeonidL]

Cossack stuck together - poobachno, showing deaf - pochuy ... Hopes nourish young men, and spurs give courage!

[zulusuluz]

How simple it is: "I replaced the firmware - I became more invisible" ... Goodbye physics!

[kartalovkolya]

All this "foam" was raised by the Israeli media due to the fact that they have not yet forgotten how in 1983, then the Soviet air defense, so "kicked" the back seat of not only the Israeli Air Force, but also pinched the US carrier-based aircraft! It’s scary, what if the Russians will repeat their actions now, but the current S-300 and S-400 will be "cooler" than what was used then! It is scary, however, but the owner from Washington demands and it looks like someone will have to burn in the Syrian sky! So the whole "progressive Jewish world" "howled"!

[Monetniy]

Do not be surprised if they spread like a shell on the march or while the crew smokes aside

[oracul]

Whatever the child entertained, he did not cry anyway. How dare Israel, when the United States looms behind. But popular wisdom says - and there is a rip on the old woman. Wait and see.

[Larum]

Throw in hats. And then we'll see. And once again we will shower.
How much does the C300 cost? Will it not be unprofitable for them to shoot down planning bombs and will they be able at all?
Like in a memorable attack.

[Thrombus]

The S-300 is closed in a single circuit with the S-400, the S-400 will illuminate with its radars which are an order of magnitude higher than that of the S-300 all targets and give the S-300 missiles to aim at the same F-35s and most likely at F-22 . There is a question of the quantity of ammunition, and we have it limited, Israel can also attack with ballistic missiles that will fall vertically from almost 65 km in height into a blind funnel, S-300 range in height of 35 km, well, S-400 and this will be seen and will have to working for her herself, shells, tori, it's all good, but if the adversaries set a goal to stupidly knock out all the ammunition with a massive attack and maybe not just one but wave from different directions and the Americans with F-22 will help ....... not so simple gentlemen ... it would be necessary to import and import regimental divisions, this is not much we have there, and if the attack starts, we must already beat the Iskander on the airfields and the entire infrastructure, from where there will be a strike on the ground, only then it will reach them that something is apparently wrong they did when the aircraft did not remain at all.

[Volga073]

Syria needs Iskander-M '
F-35 must be destroyed right at the airfields,
there they are just scrap.

[Every]

Quote: Volga073

Syria needs Iskander-M '
F-35 must be destroyed right at the airfields,
there they are just scrap.

Those. Do you propose declaring war on Israel?
After all, a strike at airfields is a strike on the territory of another state.
And the Syrians shouldn't hand over such weapons as Iskanders, they don't need to be taken out of the Russian Federation at all, they themselves need them.
Is that "Tochka-U" to put.

[Volga073]

But Israel does not bombard the airfields of another state?

[macgyver]

I support the Jews in this matter. How to destroy the S-300, we will sell the S-400 to the Syrians. I would even offer Tsahal a percentage of sales ...

[Cannonball]

Every Jew should understand that destroying the S-300 is not kosher.

[Alexex]

Quote: krot

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Plus EW, what are we in front of the whole planet .. Israel has no chance! And the Armor all AGM and GBU see and easily destroy!

Nobody is safe from krivorukost ... even give a super weapon to Krivorukov, the result will still be deplorable .... or they will be covered with a civilian plane

[Bypassed]

Without even waiting for a new software update for their aircraft, Israelis they can already strike at the S-300 air defense system, but most likely they will wait another three months, during which the Russians will learn Syrian calculations, and after transferring the air defense system under Syrian control, strike
Extracting the excess we get in the dry residue the Israelis will strike.
Is Assad ally or what? If an ally, then a strike can be prevented easily and simply - if you arm yourself with the ideology of the Israelis. all that is needed is to bomb Israeli airdromes - and this is not a jammer to suppress the United States and the threat will cease to exist.

[Mikhail Ivanov_4]

They will not inflict any blow, either now or later. Butting Russia, it’s not to drive Palestinians through the desert.