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Netanyahu announced 1 meeting with Putin after the tragedy of IL-20

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The head of the Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu, said that he had agreed on a new meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.




The leaders of the states will meet for the first time in person after the Russian intelligence officer Il-20 "was shot down over Syria by Syrian forces that bombarded Israeli aircraft last month," the newspaper writes Haaretz.

The date and place of the meeting are not yet called.

According to Netanyahu, the goal of the talks will be to agree on further actions of the two countries in the field of security.

At the same time, Israel will continue to conduct its activities aimed at preventing Iran from gaining a foothold in Syria, as well as to curb the supply of deadly weapons Hezbollah, the prime minister said.

A week ago, the newspaper reported that the Kremlin had rejected the attempts of the Israeli authorities to transfer the dialogue on resolving the crisis around the downed IL-20 to a politico-diplomatic level. In particular, Israel’s proposal to visit Moscow as Minister of Defense Lieberman and Prime Minister Netanyahu was rejected. The Russian leadership, according to the newspaper, demanded to leave the negotiations in the sphere of representatives of the military departments. However, presidential press secretary Dmitry Peskov has already denied this information.

The new meeting of the leaders of the two countries will be the tenth since the start of Russia (September 2015) military operation in the SAR. Two previous meetings were held in Moscow on May 9 and July 12.

Recall that the IL-20 was shot down over the Mediterranean Sea on September 17 by a Syrian anti-aircraft missile C-200. The Russian defense ministry laid the blame for the plane crash on the Israeli Air Force, which effectively set the Russian car under attack by the Syrian army.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 7 October 2018 13: 51
    +4
    And where else to run to the poor Jew?
    Won Erdogan first ran to the Americans.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 October 2018 13: 56
      +11
      0
      And where else to run to the poor Jew?


      This poor Jew in front of himself a golden donkey will drive to the Kremlin ...
      I wonder what he wants to buy Putin? what ... maybe the threats will go first and then the offer to the world ... such scoundrels always have a single carrot and a whip tool.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 7 October 2018 14: 01
        +10
        Yes, it’s clear why he’ll go.
        "Yes, spit on the memory of those killed on the plane. You, most importantly, do not bother us to kill whoever we want, and we will not regret the shekels."
        1. Law abiding citizen
          Law abiding citizen 7 October 2018 14: 20
          +9
          Quote: Shurik70
          and we will not regret the shekels. "

          I don’t think about money for those who are going, and there’s nowhere to go. I think there will be tedious conversations on the topic — let everyone remain in their own interests and with the least loss for themselves for their image.
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 7 October 2018 15: 09
            -2
            Quote: Law Abiding Citizen
            I don’t think, money for those who are going, and nowhere to go.

            There is never a lot of money ... Otherwise, why are they still robbing ordinary citizens and puffing on retirees ...?
          2. Ryzhik
            Ryzhik 7 October 2018 16: 14
            -3
            I don’t think, money for those who are going, and nowhere to go.
            This does not happen. Even fleas suck out more blood than they can digest, to say nothing of the mentally ill people who set themselves the goal of raising wealth for their families for generations to come.
        2. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 7 October 2018 15: 07
          -2
          Quote: Shurik70
          Yes, it’s clear why he’ll go.
          "Yes, spit on the memory of those killed on the plane. You, most importantly, do not bother us to kill whoever we want, and we will not regret the shekels."

          It will probably be so ... recourse
      2. Zina389
        Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 21
        -16
        vodka Beluga
        1. Dyusha90
          Dyusha90 7 October 2018 16: 05
          +1
          Yeah, the Jews did business ...
          1. kapitan281271
            kapitan281271 8 October 2018 10: 48
            +1
            And I wonder why, why did you kill our people, why did you create hemorrhoids, well, they flew the bomb, there was a contract, everything was fine, take it on yourself and us, and even so mean
      3. Alexey Novikov
        Alexey Novikov 7 October 2018 15: 13
        +10
        > This poor Jew in front of him will drive a golden donkey to the Kremlin
        Well, you bent it. Before driving a donkey, at least part of the guilt must be admitted, and admission of guilt will entail certain concessions. Actually, that is why Israel does not admit any guilt. But in this case, after the death of 15, having accepted the donkey, it turns out that Russia will make concessions to Israel, which, you see, is simply the height of the absurd.
        1. Nikolai Petrov
          Nikolai Petrov 7 October 2018 16: 27
          +4
          Aleksey about "affairs" with kosher jokes: Peasant Ivan sits and thinks how to sow a field, there is no money for wheat. AND! Here I go to a Jewish neighbor.
          Ivan: Take the ruble, buy grain, in the fall I will harvest, I will give it to you.
          E: I’ll borrow, but in the fall you will give back 2 rubles.
          And: I agree.
          E: Well, bring me something as a guarantee.
          Ivan thought about what he had, but only an ax. Offered an ax.
          Jew agreed. He gave the ruble a loan, and says: Ivan, why do you need to give 2? Give me the one I gave you, and in the fall you will only have 1 ruble owed.
          Ivan gave the ruble that he took. He goes home and thinks: Here it went to borrow money. And I’m going home without money and left without an ax and I still have a ruble.
          That's the whole science about banks and anti-Semitism. I repeat, where kosher did not take place, nobody knows the letters about anti-Semitism.
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 7 October 2018 19: 29
          0
          Quote: Alexey Novikov
          Israel does not admit any guilt. But in this case, after the death of 15, having accepted the donkey, it turns out that Russia will make concessions to Israel, which, you see, is simply the height of the absurd

          Do you really think that our trepachi and rvachi will not make concessions? As always, there will be business and nothing personal.
    2. kjhg
      kjhg 7 October 2018 13: 58
      +8
      If the result of such frequent meetings with Netanyahu is the next death of our soldiers, then such meetings are worthless. And all the same, they will knock out the next concessions from the Kremlin, it is amazing how punchy the people are, without soap, they will get into ... they’ll climb, as we say.
    3. cost
      cost 7 October 2018 14: 01
      +2
      The head of the Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu, said that he had agreed on a new meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

      by analogy with the nineties - they scored an arrow. Everyone will voice their interests
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 7 October 2018 15: 13
        +2
        Quote: Rich
        scored an arrow.

        Here it is different, because NetanYahoo is now not in a position to "score and present" something there. And the meeting (if it takes place) will look something like this:
        1. mvd ru
          mvd ru 7 October 2018 15: 24
          +4
          Or maybe so wink
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 7 October 2018 20: 40
            0
            Quote: mvd ru
            Or maybe so

            Duc, anything can be. Bibi now has specific pitchforks. In Israel, a lawsuit has begun against his wife. However, that is still a family. laughing
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 7 October 2018 13: 54
    +9
    It seems that Netanyahu will again clean up to run to the Kremlin as if to work ...
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 7 October 2018 14: 01
      +3
      And who else to go?
      He combines the Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 7 October 2018 14: 03
        +14
        Quote: Victor_B
        And who else to go?
        He combines the Prime Minister and the Foreign Minister.

        As soon as some unhealthy gimp begins with Israel regarding the Russian Federation, he will not come out of the Kremlin. Like that blue thief ... he’ll do it first, and then he’s ashamed.
        1. Zina389
          Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 24
          0
          not ashamed of those who have neither shame nor conscience
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 7 October 2018 15: 13
            +2
            Quote: Zina389
            not ashamed of those who have neither shame nor conscience

            "Any good politician" has no shame or conscience. So they're all one big bunch of g ...
    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko 7 October 2018 14: 01
      +9
      Quote: NEXUS
      Netanyahu again clean run to the Kremlin, as a job

      Judging by the Israeli media, the government and Netanyahu personally are not at all afraid of the supply of the S-300 to Syria. I think that inspired by $ 38 billion of military assistance and new supplies of F-35, Netanyahu wants to become an intermediary in negotiations between the US and Russia. Although he understands that the threats against Russia do not pass, but such amounts simply do not give, he will have to work out. Netanyahu and his government will certainly not stop the blood and sacrifices of their own people. Intuition suggests that these 38 yards are already divided between interested Jewish lobbies living in security in the USA.
      1. Zina389
        Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 26
        -17
        and how much give Assad?
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 7 October 2018 14: 28
          +16
          Quote: Zina389
          how much Assad give?

          Life to him and his people. Let’s look at the Jewish reaction when the rates are balanced.
          1. jjj
            jjj 7 October 2018 14: 50
            +3
            Well, if we assume that the Israeli justice machine can grind the prime minister in its millstones, then private trips can also be understood as showcases of housing in Rostov in case of exile
          2. Zina389
            Zina389 7 October 2018 15: 18
            -13
            Is life 2 years of bombing Syrian cities? Israel will do without such help
            1. brr1
              brr1 7 October 2018 23: 43
              +3
              And from your bombing, their life is getting better?
        2. Dyusha90
          Dyusha90 7 October 2018 16: 12
          -2
          How much can you give?
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 October 2018 14: 45
        -5
        "Intuition suggests that these 38 yards are already divided between" ////
        ----
        Your intuition is based on Russian realities and brings you for this reason. 38 billion are divided into 10 annual servings of 3.8 billion each. Servings are not cashed and do not go to Israel. They purchased American weapons and ammunition. Everything signs up to 1 dollar. Impossible to steal a dime.
        1. demo
          demo 7 October 2018 15: 11
          +10
          What are you saying?
          It’s painted, it’s painted.
          But, one very long time ago, I read a translation of an article from the New York Times that on US submarines there were toilet covers for 1000 dollars.
          Although exactly the same in the nearest supermarket on 15.
          Catch it?
          When orders are scheduled "for their" firms, then ..... "I beg you."
          So it’s not we who are teaching you, but you have taught us.
          1. Vita vko
            Vita vko 7 October 2018 15: 24
            +9
            Quote: demo
            It’s painted, it’s painted.

            He also somehow faced the principles of budget spending in the United States. There really is everything written down to the cent. But the most interesting thing is that in the course of acquiring some kind of "piece of iron", up to 80% of expenses are in the column "services", starting with legal and ending with advisory high-ranking officials. In fact, the United States "defeated corruption" by legalizing it. For example, lobbying the interests of corporations for money by government officials is considered corruption, and in the United States and probably in Israel, even taxes are collected for this.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 7 October 2018 15: 39
              -5
              Lobbying is an official advertisement of a product. If a congressman praises Boeing’s products, being the official lobbyist of Boeing, then the whole Congress and the press understand that it is biased. And they make allowances for this in their decisions. The system is reasonable.
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 7 October 2018 15: 24
          +7
          Quote: voyaka uh
          "Intuition suggests that these 38 yards are already divided between" ////
          ----
          Your intuition is based on Russian realities and brings you for this reason. 38 billion are divided into 10 annual servings of 3.8 billion each. Servings are not cashed and do not go to Israel. They purchased American weapons and ammunition. Everything signs up to 1 dollar. Impossible to steal a dime.

          When it comes to such money, I would not be so categorical laughing Especially considering that there are a lot of people in Israel who are our compatriots, these people are very experienced in assimilating such amounts ... and in the American elite there are enough of those who know how to "saw" .. In general, they will probably master part of the amount .. laughing
          1. Vita vko
            Vita vko 7 October 2018 15: 29
            +8
            Quote: Svarog
            who are our compatriots

            Do not forget about the mentality of these "compatriots", some of them are present on the site. You can clearly see that they express their opinion far from in the interests of their former homeland and not even in the interests of Israel. No wonder they say who betrayed once will betray the second.
          2. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 7 October 2018 15: 34
            -4
            Processes about corruption sometimes go on, but the scale (in sums) is completely insignificant. The Russians will cause only a bewildered smile - because of what fuss?
            1. Russia
              Russia 7 October 2018 17: 12
              +4
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Processes about corruption sometimes go on, but the scale (in sums) is completely insignificant. The Russians will cause only a bewildered smile - because of what fuss?

              A hen on a grain, they so not to lose qualification. smile
        3. figwam
          figwam 7 October 2018 15: 44
          +3
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Everything signs up to 1 dollar. Impossible to steal a dime.

          Cruel Yankees ...
        4. brr1
          brr1 7 October 2018 23: 44
          0
          Lies and lies. Just different ways will be
      3. Alexey Novikov
        Alexey Novikov 7 October 2018 15: 17
        +2
        When something doesn’t scare you at all, they don’t shout about it every day in all shouts.
    3. Nikolai Petrov
      Nikolai Petrov 7 October 2018 14: 27
      +7
      Andrey, you are ahead of me. And let him not spoil the Natanyah from his neighbor, and there will be no need to run to Moscow. By the way, I am for ALL, namely all Jews (especially from Russia) to return to Israel. And let them live there as they want, if only they would move away from us. But you can’t get them out of here with a tractor. In Russia, there is no end to the field for their parasitism. And most importantly, with impunity.
      1. Black sniper
        Black sniper 7 October 2018 14: 45
        +1
        All military Russians Jews to Syria to the patrol police. hi
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 October 2018 15: 01
        -5
        "But you can't get them out of here with a tractor" ////
        ----
        They come all the time for permanent residence. So - ok! fellow
        1. The comment was deleted.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 7 October 2018 15: 30
            -4
            Historically, this has not been confirmed. During the Israeli wars, men of military age urgently returned from vacations and from permanent residence from the USA and Europe. As a rule, the number of volunteers far exceeded the number that they could mobilize.
            1. Weight
              Weight 7 October 2018 15: 44
              +1
              Read carefully what I wrote again ... I did not write about the story .... and about Israel did not write in the negative ....
            2. brr1
              brr1 7 October 2018 23: 45
              +1
              Voyaker alone for all of Israel puffs
        2. figwam
          figwam 7 October 2018 15: 50
          +5
          Quote: voyaka uh
          They come all the time for permanent residence. So - ok!

          Your leadership was outraged by the return flow to Russia, compared with the 90s, so they go there, here as in a joke.

          Two ships meet in the Black Sea, one goes from Odessa to Haifa,
          the other is from Haifa to Odessa.
          Passengers of the ships look at each other and twist a finger at the temple.
        3. Nikolai Petrov
          Nikolai Petrov 7 October 2018 17: 47
          +2
          So you to us (not we to you on your promised one) rush like a bulldozer to us in Altai "Altai-Sion". Do we need you? Well then, do not be offended. Taiga - Law. The bear is a prosecutor. Do not blame me.
  3. kriten
    kriten 7 October 2018 14: 00
    +1
    Rides for the next permission to bomb Syria with impunity. What is surprising - because it will receive ....
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 7 October 2018 14: 03
      -15
      Well, how did you want? In Syria, militants from Iran stockpile weapons, which then fall into Israel. And should they sit and watch? But Russia does not want to quarrel with Iran and closes its eyes.
      1. kriten
        kriten 7 October 2018 14: 06
        +15
        Israel is not only an ally of ISIS and all other terrorists, but also a sponsor, along with the Saudis and the OAU.
        1. Zina389
          Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 27
          -21
          the main sponsor of terrorism is Iran and its friends
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 7 October 2018 14: 48
            +10
            Quote: Zina389
            -4
            the main sponsor of terrorism is Iran and its friends

            Everything is exactly the opposite ...
            The main sponsor of terrorism is Israel and its friends.
          2. Nikolai Petrov
            Nikolai Petrov 7 October 2018 15: 13
            +5
            Zinovy, who was blown up by Iran on the territory of Srail? Iran will not be trifling with trifles, if it needs it, your "nonexistent" 270 nuclear charges will not save you either. But your tribe is quietly famous for nasty things. Well, again, you will howl about l ..., the Holocaust and other notions. And then you wonder about where anti-Semitism comes from. Where you have never been, no one knows about anti-Semitism.
          3. Tank hard
            Tank hard 7 October 2018 16: 57
            +2
            Quote: Zina389
            the main sponsor of terrorism is Iran and its friends

            Yeahapparently his friends - USA, Saudis, Qatar and others like them ...
          4. brr1
            brr1 7 October 2018 23: 48
            0
            the main sponsor of terrorism is Iran and its friends

            Everything is relative as history shows. For some, terrorists, for some saboteurs, for others, rebels and revolutionaries, may also be peace fighters. In Chechnya, the whole world has taught us this.
          5. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 8 October 2018 11: 25
            0
            Quote: Zina389
            the main sponsor of terrorism is Iran and its friends

            Or maybe the United States?
      2. Same lech
        Same lech 7 October 2018 14: 07
        +10
        In Syria, militants from Iran stockpile weapons, which then fall into Israel.

        In Israel, bearded bastards from ISIS and the White Helmets receive medication. weapons, special training, followed by casting into Syria and Iran and in Israel consider this normal and turn a blind eye to it.
        1. Zina389
          Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 31
          -15
          medicines and not 100 missiles that got bastards from hezbollah.
          1. Same lech
            Same lech 7 October 2018 14: 40
            +11
            100 000 missiles


            belay belay belay
            Stop smoking marijuana in such quantities ... heh heh 100 rockets ... why not a billiard right away with crocodiles ... you are Jewish storytellers. smile
            1. Russia
              Russia 7 October 2018 17: 18
              +5
              Quote: The same Lech
              100 000 missiles


              belay belay belay
              Stop smoking marijuana in such quantities ... heh heh 100 rockets ... why not a billiard right away with crocodiles ... you are Jewish storytellers. smile

              hi Yes, let them smoke, health gain. smile
          2. Black sniper
            Black sniper 7 October 2018 14: 57
            +5
            Quote: Zina389
            medicines and not 100 missiles that got bastards from hezbollah.

            So you admitted that you are treating bandits, and hezbola helps Syria in the fight against ISIS and is fighting with Israel for its land that you Jews have brazenly occupied !!! am
          3. demo
            demo 7 October 2018 15: 29
            +7
            Reshet Bet: there were militants among the Syrians treated in Israel
            publication time: 20 July 2015 g., 20: 36 | last updated: July 20 2015, 21: 00 blog printable photo
            Reshet Bet: Jabat al-Nusra militants were among the Syrians treated in Israel
            The IDF admitted that among the Syrian citizens who received medical care in Israeli hospitals were militants of the terrorist group Jabat al-Nusra, which is the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda.

            A source in the army, commenting on this information to the radio station "Reshet Bet", did not begin to tell whether the military knew before making the decision to send the wounded to the hospital that they were talking about militants and not about civilians.

            At the same time, the interlocutor of the radio station noted that the instructions were revised. The IDF will strictly monitor that Jabat al-Nusra militants do not end up in Israeli hospitals.

            Note that earlier Israeli Druze people living in the Golan Heights accused the IDF of providing medical assistance to members of the Syrian armed groups.

            Normalnenko?
            And here, our, dear, Russian TVs podsulilis.
            In the discussions on the aftershock, very often, individual citizens, as a reason that Israel allegedly supports ISIS, cited the treatment of Syrians in Israeli hospitals as an example.
            The first channel of Russian TV prepared a report on how things really are.
            On the video link. I publish the text of the report



            "Because of the actions of militants in Syria, most of the medical infrastructure was destroyed

            As a result, there are not enough places for the wounded in hospitals. Under these conditions, Israeli doctors took an unprecedented step: they agreed to treat Syrians who needed help for free, including the smallest patients.

            Dr. Lerner begins his working day with a tour of patients who have recently increased significantly. In this chamber are the Syrians wounded during the fighting. Journalists were forbidden to show their faces and give their names. Syria has no diplomatic relations with Israel and formally these people are on the territory of the enemy state. But they have no other choice: in Syria itself, according to the UN, 70 percent of the medical infrastructure has already been destroyed, there is simply nowhere for treatment for the Syrians in their homeland.

            2 years ago, on the border, at the gate, an Israeli patrol discovered seven wounded Syrians. They were taken to an Israeli hospital, cured. They returned home. And since then, more and more wounded have been brought to the Israeli checkpoint from Syria.

            The Israelis are altruists.
            Let them save someone.
            And the Syrian kids will thank them.
            If they survive.

            I was thinking everything.
            Why is Israel supporting the barmalei?
            After all, God forbid ISIS will triumph what will happen to Israel?
            They will cut it out like sheep!
            So to support is to give the executioner an ax in his hands and put his neck on the block.
            And if ISIS is a US project?
            That Israel has 100% guarantee that ISIS is a managed office.
            And if ISIS slaughter Syrians, Iraqis, etc., the land will be freed to further expand the state of Israel.
            Everything is quite prosaic.
          4. MKPU-115
            MKPU-115 8 October 2018 11: 27
            0
            Quote: Zina389
            medicines and not 100 missiles that got bastards from hezbollah.

            Yes, we have seen what kind of "medicines" from Israel, derivatives to create a chemical. weapons, and then all the arrows to Russia and Syria
      3. Nikolai Petrov
        Nikolai Petrov 7 October 2018 14: 48
        +4
        Vladimir, in your place you should not be so observant (with optimism) of Syria and the destruction of fleas there. Judging by your flag, you are not doing well. And sooner or later you will have your maidan, your Sumerians, and, accordingly, your own New Russia. Israel? ... what did he do to you or to someone good in the history of mankind? And about Iran. So that is the only Islamic country that supported Russia in the 1st and 2nd Chechen operations. And not a single Persian was there, and could not be. By the way, please your neighbors if they will come to cut you in the near future.
      4. Alexey Novikov
        Alexey Novikov 7 October 2018 15: 18
        +3
        Israeli weapons, Israeli medicines and Israeli medical equipment are also found in ISIL-controlled territory. Do you propose a gasp on Tel Aviv?
  4. Zubr
    Zubr 7 October 2018 14: 01
    +9
    At the same time, Israel will continue to carry out its activities aimed at preventing Iran from gaining a foothold in Syria, as well as curbing the supply of deadly weapons to Hezbollah, the prime minister said.

    Leave Syria and Iran alone. They will help to end your bearded overshots and go quietly home.
    Do not try to pull the tiger by the mustache.
    1. Zina389
      Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 33
      -11
      already declared victory 3 times. it's time for Shiite barmels to go home for 2000 km.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 7 October 2018 14: 42
        +1
        already declared victory 3 times. it's time for Shiite barmels to go home for 2000 km.


        In your Netanyahu to the GDP and it jumps as if to persuade him to influence the Persians ... the gut is thin with the Shiites to fight.
      2. Nikolai Petrov
        Nikolai Petrov 7 October 2018 14: 58
        +3
        Do not worry about Shiites, as they were in Syria and will be so. But the finding of your tribe in the Holy Land will sooner or later be called into question. Well, you don’t get used to it, you will again explode on an immense planet, nobody canceled Agasfera. And whoever shelters you - woe to them, not immediately, through a generation.
        1. Russia
          Russia 7 October 2018 17: 22
          +4
          So their anchors are thrown everywhere, Germany has been milked for a long time, they are well settled, and the other affected peoples have not come out with their faces in the face.
  5. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 7 October 2018 14: 06
    +4
    probably wants to buy C400 from us, recourse to put Putin in confidence lol
    1. Zina389
      Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 36
      -10
      Erdogan has already rubbed himself in. Now woe to him with grief for a long time
    2. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 October 2018 16: 59
      -1
      Quote: ANCIENT
      probably wants to buy C400 from us, recourse to put Putin in confidence lol

      Erdogan sent troops to Idlib just before the planned advance of the SAA in this province, which actually thwarted him.
  6. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 7 October 2018 14: 08
    +2
    he will fly to Russia at f35, and fly to Po2 wassat
  7. flicker
    flicker 7 October 2018 14: 10
    +4
    Putin is an EXTREMELY humane person. But this "humanism", which is dictated by the desire to avoid a nuclear conflict, paradoxically, brings it even closer.
    The insolent west can and must be stopped with some kind of sharp, biting blow. Otherwise, a global nuclear war is inevitable. The object for such a strike could be Israel (he set himself up). You can stop the West with the example of Israel. Recently, Israel has been perceived as the "sacred cow" of the Anglo-Saxons, which should not be touched.
    Those. we need to ensure that Israel ceases its aggressive policies in BV. As a second question. If it can be done through negotiations, that's great. If not, then we should support the Arab world, both politically and by arms.
    Insolent Anglo-Saxons should be stopped through the reassurance of Israel. In this way, a global nuclear conflict can be avoided ... maybe through a regional nuclear conflict.
    But one cannot go further to meet the insolent Anglo-Saxons - because this will lead to a global nuclear conflict.
    1. Zina389
      Zina389 7 October 2018 14: 38
      -9
      better to stop hotheads in large caps on the example of Syria
    2. saigon
      saigon 7 October 2018 15: 32
      +6
      Essentially respected Jews, the Arabs will be closer than the Saxons and Angles, and the Anglo-Saxons actually do not give a damn about Israel.
      To confirm that they are whipping Israel and Jews, a simple example before WWII in Germany, the Germans were hardworking (Germans all the same) to exterminate the Jews, and here a group of not less Jews from Europe sailed to America on a steamer, and the ship of democracy and the hope of all oppressed peoples wrapped up.
      Such a reverent attitude of the Anglo-Saxons to the Jewish people.
      Moreover, in any country, the Jews are the Diaspora and do not assimilate with the main population, which is why they are an excellent lightning rod for the authorities of any country in case of major troubles quickly and without costly pogroms are organized.
      Moreover, this is true for all countries and at any historical moment.
  8. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 14: 13
    +9
    I read comments, and quietly goof ... people, what are you doing ?!

    ... the goal of the negotiations will be to coordinate further actions of the two countries in the field of security...

    The alternative to such negotiations is war, is it unclear to someone? Our bases are there against the IDF - about nothing, and even the "partners" will fit in, don't go to the fortuneteller. Such a war is beneficial to everyone. Except for Russia and Israel. Let them agree better request

    And here you are, damn it, otgalivaetsya:

    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    This poor Jew in front of himself a golden donkey will drive to the Kremlin ...

    Quote: Victor_B
    And where else to run to the poor Jew?

    Quote: Shurik70
    Yes, you spit on the memory of these dead on the plane. You, most importantly, do not bother us

    Quote: kjhg
    all the same, they’ll knock out the next concessions from the Kremlin, it’s amazing how punchy the people are, without soap, they’ll climb into ...

    Quote: NEXUS
    Like that blue thief ... he’ll do it first, and then he’s ashamed

    Detsky Garden for a walk, right negative
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 7 October 2018 14: 20
      +4
      The alternative to such negotiations is war, is it unclear to anyone?


      Yeah ... bomb the Jews further Syria ... hide behind our defenseless planes let the Russians die ... belay
      naive reasoning is that only negotiations solve everything ... we need solutions that force Jews to peace.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 14: 21
        -3
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        need decisions forcing Jews to peace

        These decisions may be peaceful, or may be military. What are you?

        Just think carefully first, no one is chasing you wink
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 7 October 2018 14: 37
          +6
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          These decisions may be peaceful, or may be military. What are you?

          Just think carefully first, no one is chasing you

          Excuse me, Roman, but you have a cognitive dissonance ... that means we are once again given the teeth by force, and we ... and we mean we agree peacefully ... and wash our blood for long.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 14: 43
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            we are again given the force to the teeth by force

            Og ... a Syrian missile, and when our (!!!) commanders-chiefs themselves sent ILs to that area ... to take a pure interest. Technically, to someone else belay

            Quote: NEXUS
            you have a cognitive dissonance

            Not "with us," but "with you," Andrey. I usually think before how to write what. You, hike, then throw out emotions, unfiltered.

            IMHO in vain you do it.
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 7 October 2018 14: 54
              -2
              Quote: Golovan Jack

              Og ... a Syrian missile, and when our (!!!) commanders-chiefs themselves sent ILs to that area ... to take a pure interest. Technically, to someone else belay

              Well, in the Russian media they try not to pedal it. But ours seems to have already fused put Netanyahu, breaks.

              Israeli portal walla  published a large material on the dramatic events of 17 September, when Syrian air defense during the Israeli attack shot down the Russian reconnaissance aircraft Il-20. 
              The 44 Syrian Air Defense Regiment identified the Il-20 with the 15 Russian military on board as an enemy aircraft - and fired a volley of C-200 missiles on it. At this point, the air control unit in northern Israel was preparing for the completion of another successful operation - an attack on Iranian targets in Syria. The Russian plane disappeared from the radar - and telephones rang at various headquarters. 
              The commander of the air control unit, Colonel I. says: “The same missions were previously carried out in full coordination with the planning department, the attack participants underwent a full briefing, possible reactions were studied in detail. Professionals of our unit accompanied the pilots throughout the operation. Information about the downed Russian aircraft surprised us from a professional point of view. The Russians were given information long before the start of the operation, 12 minutes before the attack, when the Russian plane was very far from ours. ” 
              Lieutenant Colonel I. stressed: “The message about the attack was transmitted to the Russian headquarters 25 minutes before the Russian plane was shot down. At the moment the missile hit Il, our planes had already returned to our airspace. From a professional point of view, I have not the slightest doubt that the Russian plane was shot down as a result of a gross and inexplicable mistake by the center of Syrian command and control. ” 
              Earlier, Arab media reported that Russia rejected the report, provided on the basis of data collected by the center of Colonel I. The Israeli report blames the incident on the Syrian and Russian sides. Specifically, the report indicates that the Russians gave an “erroneous order”, as a result of which the Russian plane “came under Syrian fire”.
              Colonel I., an officer in the Air Force for 27 years, explains: “We live in a period of challenges. The air force is needed everywhere - from Gaza and Judea and Samaria, to distant and dangerous missions. The air forces operate on the principle of central control, based on the picture of what is happening in the airspace, on the models that we produce to control our forces. Reliable, accurate and complete neat models - what happens in the lower layers, upper layers, nearby and far. Ultimately, we must understand the challenges of identifying enemy air assets. Whose plane is it? Transport? Military? Civilian Drone? Who does he belong to? What relation do we have with those who carry out his mission. In the northern arena are Russians, Iranians, Hezbollah and Syrians. It is very important to know who is flying - because the instructions for opening fire in each case are different, and our use of forces in each scenario is different. ” 
              Colonel I. says: “We owe 24 / 7 all year round to analyze air traffic. First and foremost, we protect the airspace of our country. Many other branches of the armed forces proceed from the picture that we are creating, including the fleet. ” 


              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 14: 58
                -1
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                ... in the Russian media they try not to pedal it ...

                And it’s clear why. Their mistakes are always difficult to admit in any country. And here, IMHO - a clean mutual: both your hand and the woodpeckers, and the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners - ... damn, censorship request
              2. Was mammoth
                Was mammoth 7 October 2018 22: 20
                +2
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Lt. Col. I[/ b]. emphasized: “The message about the attack was transmitted to the Russian headquarters [b] in 25 minutes before

                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Air Control Unit Commander Colonel I. He speaks:.. .

                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                ... the Russians were given information long before the operation began, for 12 minutes before the attack

                No, well, I'm not pedaling.
                Quote: GibSoN
                I specially observe how in any topic, at least somehow affecting Jews, the maximum popularity))

                There is an article about Nadezhdin here. Today (more precisely, last night) he said that in 93, if Yeltsin had not won, he would have been put up against the wall. Because as a Jew. I do not care about nationality, "if only a good man is caught" (from the song of a brick walking on the roof). I figured out the nationality of the invitees dedicated to the events of 93. "The right to vote." You won't believe how many Jews there were! As if it was a tragedy in Tel Aviv.wink
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 7 October 2018 14: 54
              +5
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Og ... a Syrian missile, and when our (!!!) commanders-chiefs themselves sent ILs to that area ... to take a pure interest. Technically, to someone else

              No need to put a hamster on the globe, Roman ... the setup of our IL took place to be ... point
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Not "with us," but "with you," Andrey.

              No ... just you ...
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I usually think before what to write. You, hike, emit emotions here, unfiltered.

              Well, why switch to a person then ... then they speak to you humanly ...
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              IMHO in vain you do it.

              That's it, in vain you do it, dear.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 15: 01
                0
                Quote: NEXUS
                the setup of our IL took place to be ...

                Personally, this is at least not obvious to me.

                Quote: NEXUS
                Well, why switch to a person then ... then they speak to you humanly ...

                Andrei, don’t persecute, but you won’t be persecuted ... no one turns into an individual, but you are specifically brought to the bends ... it happens when you are young, I understand.

                Quote: NEXUS
                in vain you do it, dear

                Shah, I’m not talking to you in this thread anymore. stop
        2. Same lech
          Same lech 7 October 2018 14: 44
          -1
          These decisions may be peaceful, or may be military.

          Then I agree with you ...

          I am for a peaceful solution using the S-300 and S-400 ...
          they will immediately establish a peaceful sky over SYRIA ... and rightly so.
    2. KLV2018
      KLV2018 7 October 2018 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      I read comments, and quietly goof ... people, what are you doing ?!

      ... the goal of the negotiations will be to coordinate further actions of the two countries in the field of security...

      The alternative to such negotiations is war, is it unclear to someone? Our bases are there against the IDF - about nothing, and even the "partners" will fit in, don't go to the fortuneteller. Such a war is beneficial to everyone. Except for Russia and Israel. Let them agree better request

      And here you are, damn it, otgalivaetsya:

      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      This poor Jew in front of himself a golden donkey will drive to the Kremlin ...

      Quote: Victor_B
      And where else to run to the poor Jew?

      Quote: Shurik70
      Yes, you spit on the memory of these dead on the plane. You, most importantly, do not bother us

      Quote: kjhg
      all the same, they’ll knock out the next concessions from the Kremlin, it’s amazing how punchy the people are, without soap, they’ll climb into ...

      Quote: NEXUS
      Like that blue thief ... he’ll do it first, and then he’s ashamed

      Detsky Garden for a walk, right negative

      you're right.
      the military is a pity. once again sacrificed.
      1. alexsipin
        alexsipin 7 October 2018 17: 24
        +1
        Quote: KLV2018
        the military is a pity. once again sacrificed.

        And your instructor who did not teach the Syrians to distinguish a large propeller-driven aircraft from a small fighter on the radar sacrificed them. who did not learn to identify planes, use a friend-or-foe system (if it exists at all with the Russian group in Syria).
    3. Pompomor Lesha
      Pompomor Lesha 7 October 2018 14: 27
      +1
      Well, this is how to say it. For any reason, they are afraid to seriously butt off Russia with Russia; it’s not to iron Libya with Iraq.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 14: 31
        -1
        Quote: Pomorpomor Lesha
        They are afraid of seriously grappling with Russia for any reason; it’s not to iron Libya with Iraq

        To seriously speak on this subject, neither I nor you have enough information no. From the word "absolutely". Let those who have it understand.

        But I, in any case, for negotiations. It’s definitely not going to get any worse from them, but we will always be in time to measure our genitals - IMHO.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 7 October 2018 14: 33
      +3
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      Detsky Garden for a walk, right

      In order to at least agree on something, one must have a clear position on key issues and a clearly drawn red border, after which they will be kicked and possibly kicked. And now the question is, DO WE HAVE THIS CLEAR POSITION AND CLEARLY BOUNDED BOUNDARIES?
      And about ..
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      The alternative to such negotiations is war, is it unclear to anyone?

      So the war has been going on for a long time ... since 2001 in the hot phase, and before it in the cold since 45 ... Do you not understand this? How long should we retreat so as not to run into a missile exchange? Our planes go down without any consequences for those who do it. Turkey got rid of tomatoes and now we are friends with it, Israel is friends, it claims to flatten our S-300s under the foundation .... and what are we doing? If you really got into a fight, you have to be ready to give it a jaw, as diplomacy works in this fight either in the initial stage or in the final one.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 14: 39
        -3
        Quote: NEXUS
        Our planes go down without any consequences for those who do it. Turkey got off with tomatoes ...

        ... for $ 20 billion, yeah ...

        Quote: NEXUS
        Israel is friends, it declares that it will level our S-300s under the foundation

        Israel always "did not want" these S-300s, remember ...

        Quote: NEXUS
        ... one must be prepared to give one’s teeth ...

        How old are you, Andrei? Do you have children?

        Quote: NEXUS
        ... in this fight, diplomacy works either in the initial stage or in the final

        Nonsense. It always works, a truce is usually concluded for such things, if it’s already a war.

        Now, while there is no direct war (and there is none), it is better to try to come to an agreement. The queen on the board (S-300 in Syria) has already been placed, now it’s time to agree. And not waving sabers from the couch wink
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 7 October 2018 14: 50
          +5
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          .. for $ 20 billion, yeah ...


          Erdogash earned these 20 lard for a month on dorm oil ... yeah ...
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Israel always "did not want" these S-300s, remember ...

          You are mistaken. Israel, when at the very beginning such a conversation began, clearly indicated that they agreed to deploy the S-300 with the prerequisite that the calculations would be Russian. Now, after after the downing of our plane, this is already being dismissed and they are expressly declaring that this alignment does not suit them.
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          How old are you, Andrei? Do you have children?

          I am 44 years old and have a son. Are you saying that if a war starts and so on? So I’ll answer you that from the fact that we are backing away and giving in, forgiving and understanding, we will not derogate the moment of real war from the word at all. And do not put pressure on humanism and sanity ... here if you speak with inadequacy, then sanity is not an assistant.
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Nonsense. It always works, a truce is usually concluded for such things, if it’s already a war.

          Yeah ... take a look at the Donbass, huh ... and what all these periphery and agreements have given ... and then we will consider how much rubiroid is in Odessa.
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Now, while there is no direct war (and there is none), it is better to try to come to an agreement.

          With whom are you going to negotiate? With the USA and to? The mattresses lost the Syrian company clean and they’ll leave Syria loudly slamming the door ... and so that it dawns on you that you agree only with those you respect and fear, look at the UN meetings and, in particular, on which weather vane our attempts negotiate the skewers of the USA, England and so on ...
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 15: 03
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            NEXUS

            Andrey, you’re getting too many, don’t you?

            And you are already starting to be rude. No, it’s not worth it.
            1. Dogmatic
              Dogmatic 7 October 2018 15: 06
              +2
              Not much more than you. Do not find?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 15: 07
                0
                Quote: Dogmatic
                Not much more than you

                I am a top starter in this case. I answer questions, explain what is unclear to anyone. Until a certain point wink

                But why are you here?
            2. NEXUS
              NEXUS 7 October 2018 15: 18
              +4
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              And you are already starting to be rude. No, it’s not worth it.

              Show me where I was rude to you ... here I can show where you are rude to me, speaking through the lip, wise life elders ...
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              I usually think before how to write. You, hike, emit emotions here, unfiltered.

              That is, you think, and your opponent went out for a walk unreasonable child?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 15: 22
                -2
                Quote: NEXUS
                Show me where I got you naughty ...

                What am I to you - a nanny? Look for yourself, think, analyze ... You can start with the "hamster on the globe" ... well, and further.

                Quote: NEXUS
                here I can show where you are rude to me, speaking through the lip, wise life elders

                I have reason for this - I’m XNUMX years older than you, and I have no experience whatsoever you have and cannot have ... in short, I repeat:

                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Shah, I’m not talking to you in this thread anymore. stop
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    5. Svarog
      Svarog 7 October 2018 14: 45
      +2
      Quote: Golovan Jack
      The alternative to such negotiations is war, is it unclear to someone? Our bases are there against the IDF - about nothing, and even the "partners" will fit in, don't go to the fortuneteller. Such a war is beneficial to everyone. Except for Russia and Israel. Let them agree better

      Golovan, for the first time I agree with you ... By the clarity of your thought you surprised me good laughing
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 14: 54
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        you surprised me

        The cognitive dissonance? it happens laughing

        Let me remind you of your yesterday:

        Quote: Svarog
        ... you have never participated in any serious discussions .. All you do is ask questions .. yes, troll ...

        Well, you should not have said that. I'm not vindictive, of course, but ... you get it, right? laughing
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 7 October 2018 15: 46
          +1
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Svarog
          ... you have never participated in any serious discussions .. All you do is ask questions .. yes, troll ...

          Well, you should not have said that. I'm not vindictive, of course, but ... you get it, right?

          Glad you heard me and began to mend good
        2. Harry.km
          Harry.km 7 October 2018 16: 42
          +1
          Tellingly, I recently wrote something similar about G. Jack. Questions, questions, questions ... trolling with questions, constantly changing shoes in the air, forgetfulness of their statements, argumentation according to the principle of "not an intelligent person himself", when there is absolutely nothing to write, begins to teach with "knowledge of the Russian language." A great patriot programmer in a company with offshore companies somewhere in the far abroad, who did not write a single technically meaningful comment in articles about hardware and software. But, well, very loving from above to teach in rhetorical topics)))) I laugh at you G. Jack.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 16: 44
            +2
            Quote: Harry.km
            I laugh at you G. Jack

            And yet - you're lying (although maybe - you have a worldview ... I don’t know), and for some reason you are trying to be rude.

            In vain. Harmful to karma yes
            1. Harry.km
              Harry.km 7 October 2018 16: 58
              +3
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Quote: Harry.km
              I laugh at you G. Jack

              And yet - you're lying (although maybe - you have a worldview ... I don’t know), and for some reason you are trying to be rude.

              In vain. Harmful to karma yes
              Do not be like me - an unproven boor. Indicate the place where I lied, or at least where my worldview is wrong, since you deigned above to take on such a noble duty to guide the true sheep of the lost on the path. ... as a topic starter of course)))
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 17: 05
                0
                Quote: Harry.km
                Indicate the place where I lied, or at least where my worldview is wrong ...

                What for? I told you back at your last visit that you were absolutely uninteresting to me ... all the more - I’m here our Internet businessmen are breaking into Skype, they have a damn thing, another accident ... tear off their hands, to their ears.
                So, call me -

                Quote: Harry.km
                ... guide the true sheep of the lost on the path ...

                ... for now ... I will postpone it. Affairs, affairs request
    6. Shahno
      Shahno 7 October 2018 15: 31
      0
      And it will go right, put your pride aside and you need to negotiate. Otherwise, we will shoot each other to the delight of well-known enemies (then we will decide who is the "world superpower", who is the "chosen one", first we need to avoid unnecessary casualties).
  9. Radikal
    Radikal 7 October 2018 14: 19
    -2
    The head of the Israeli government, Benjamin Netanyahu, said that he had agreed on a new meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
    How a beggar behaves ... lol wassat tongue
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 7 October 2018 14: 30
      -3
      It doesn't matter how it behaves, because the Kremlin will make concessions anyway.
  10. Esteid
    Esteid 7 October 2018 14: 22
    +1
    it’s correct that it was pickled before delivery and deployment of the S-300.
    Now you can talk.
  11. Mimoxod
    Mimoxod 7 October 2018 14: 23
    0
    At the same time, Israel will continue to carry out its activities aimed at preventing Iran from gaining a foothold in Syria, as well as curbing the supply of deadly weapons to Hezbollah, the prime minister said.
    With such politically-obsolete stubbornness and to Moscow, there is no progress in Israeli politics, from the word at all ...
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 7 October 2018 15: 38
      0
      Let's see, in the east they are able to discuss problems, and solve for the common good. The main thing here is that the parties are set up for negotiations.
  12. borys
    borys 7 October 2018 14: 27
    +3
    For kuz363.
    Iranians are in Syria at the invitation of a legitimate government. I.e
    absolutely legal. Moreover, in this region and in this case, Iran
    is a military ally of Russia. In fact. Unlike Iran, Israel
    is not an ally of Russia. Not a penny. And in the foreseeable
    Russia's future will not be an ally. Therefore it would be absolutely logical
    on the opinions and wishes of God's chosen us ... t (do not give a damn).
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 7 October 2018 14: 39
      -2
      Quote: borys
      Iranians are in Syria at the invitation of a legitimate government.

      Enough with this organ "at the invitation of the legitimate government"
      how am I the difference at the invitation there is someone or not? this is not judicial litigation but a tough geopolitical struggle.
      analyze the situation, opportunities, motivation of the parties to the conflict. imagine your point of view.
      court subtleties here have no weight.
  13. Buffoon
    Buffoon 7 October 2018 14: 30
    +1
    Well, everything will chat again .. This Netanyahu should not be allowed to get close to the Kremlin ...
    And I was hoping that finally we will deal with Israel.
    Again we are all deceived in Russia. angry
    As he arrives in Moscow, so immediately the blood pours somewhere .. soldier
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 7 October 2018 14: 41
      -2
      Quote: Buff
      Again we are all deceived in Russia

      Do you think everyone in Russia is childless? I have a different opinion.
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 15: 16
      -1
      Quote: Buff
      As he arrives in Moscow, so immediately the blood pours somewhere

      Vaenny, again run into the ban same ... how much record do you have for the day now? wink
    3. Shahno
      Shahno 7 October 2018 15: 41
      -1
      This is called an experienced politician. Well, I don’t know yet who will talk to anyone.
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 October 2018 14: 47
    +1
    Why meet to smash your forehead on the floor in front of GDP? So the GDP does not bite on this, not his style. To annoy that I am not me and my horse is not mine will not work either. If you only agree on the repayment of losses, compensation to the relatives of the dead soldiers and payment of a large fine in compensation for moral and material damage. And there is no need anymore, since no one canceled the work of the S-300.
  15. APASUS
    APASUS 7 October 2018 14: 54
    +1
    What to think?
    Benjamin Netanyahu will bring a package of commercial proposals with the signing date "yesterday" and that's it, ours swam like doves! Israel has not joined the sanctions, so they will play on this!
    They will buy, I won’t even argue ............
  16. flicker
    flicker 7 October 2018 14: 54
    0
    Netanyahu announced 1 meeting with Putin after the tragedy of IL-20
    Putin needs to send someone from Muslims to this meeting instead of himself, for example, Ramzan Kadyrov ... let Bibi complain to him how his Muslims oppress yes
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 October 2018 15: 08
      -2
      Bibi and Kadyrov agree perfectly, they will understand each other. Both have military youth, both killed people from a shotgun at close range. Bibi in Israeli special forces, Kadyrov in Chechen.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 7 October 2018 15: 28
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Bibi and Kadyrov agree perfectly, they will understand each other. Both have military youth, both killed people from a shotgun at close range. Bibi in Israeli special forces, Kadyrov in Chechen.

        Being a good commando and a good politician - things at different levels
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 7 October 2018 15: 55
          +2
          What kind of politician Kadyrov, I do not presume to judge ... But the "Netanyahu era" will be remembered as a time of unprecedented economic prosperity. Israel moved from developing to developed countries and achieved AA rating.
          This 20 years ago could not have been supposed even in the most rainbow dreams. Of course, Bibi and many tired. For now, leave.
      2. flicker
        flicker 7 October 2018 15: 49
        +2
        Bibi in Israeli special forces, Kadyrov in Chechen.
        Well a very vile hint. Moreover, everyone knows whose sponsorship ears stuck behind the civil war in Russia.
        And will they also agree on the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem?
  17. shans2
    shans2 7 October 2018 14: 58
    0
    They expected bloodshed from him, but he ate the siskin (s)
  18. Same lech
    Same lech 7 October 2018 15: 05
    +4
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Well, in the Russian media they try not to pedal it.

    Well, the Israeli media are trying not to pedal the fact that Israeli attack aircraft should not be in the area of ​​the death of our IL-20 ... by agreement with our military, the Jews told our military that they would operate in a completely different area ... in the end, they simply deceived us and went on the other side substituting our IL-20 ...
    Liars and Pharisees you are Jews ... and you will remain so.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 October 2018 18: 54
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech

      Well, the Israeli media are trying not to pedal the fact that Israeli attack aircraft should not be in the area of ​​the death of our IL-20 ... by agreement with our military, the Jews told our military that they would operate in a completely different area ... in the end, they simply deceived us and went on the other side substituting our IL-20 ...
      Liars and Pharisees you are Jews ... and you will remain so.

      1) At the time of the Israeli attack, according to Konashenkov, in the Latakia region (north-north-west of Hmeimim AB) there were no ships or aircraft of the Russian Federation
      2) When a military man is told about a strike in the North, it means north of you. (AB Hmeimim). In addition, Latakia's industrial facilities are North of Israel. Not Finland, not Greenland, not the North Pole. It is good that the Israelites did not say "attack in ten minutes to ten minutes to twelve." We would perceive it as "an attack is expected at 23:51."
      3) Jews are not only Pharisees - but also Saddekas, Zealots, Essenes, and even the founders of Christianity laughing
      4) Konashenkov changed versions - of course, not a lie, but a political necessity.
      1. Leon68
        Leon68 7 October 2018 23: 04
        +1
        Krasnodar, change a training manual. And then, personally, I was already tired for the hundredth time in a month in different topics to read the same nonsense about north-south.
  19. high
    high 7 October 2018 15: 17
    -1
    ,, The Russian Defense Ministry blamed the plane crash on the Israeli Air Force, which in fact put the Russian car under attack from the air defense of the Syrian army. ,,

    Who to believe, the cartoon presented by the Russian Ministry of Defense or Israeli radar records:
    The Russians were given information long before the start of the operation, 12 minutes before the attack, when the Russian plane was very far from ours (200 km).
    “A message about the attack was transmitted to the Russian headquarters 25 minutes before the Russian plane was shot down. Our planes have already returned to our airspace. From a professional point of view, there is not the slightest doubt that the Russian plane was shot down as a result of a rude and inexplicable center of Syrian command and control. ”

    Alas, Russian specialists understand the “inconsistencies” of the Russian version, such as Air Force Colonel Alksnis and General Director of the Almaz-Anteya State Design Bureau, who called the distance to Israeli aircraft at that time, about 100 km
    It’s time to think for yourself why expensive and smart bombs ,, GBU-39 is dropped from a distance of 110km ??
    In order not to enter the S-200 area of ​​operations, which was done by Israeli pilots.
  20. brigadier
    brigadier 7 October 2018 15: 40
    +1
    This morning they said on the radio that Bibi would judge his wife - for excessive orders of food in restaurants at state expense - of course the charge was sucked out of the finger, but nevertheless it is. So now he needs to shift public attention to other aspects of political action. Here he is, like the sidekick with Putin again, and goes to meet something to grind there. Maybe his wife will leave him behind and will not make hype in the press. After all, her wife Bibina, 99% of the country's population does not stand up to the spirit. Only he darted a little wrong, since approximately the same percentage of the population believes that to talk once again it’s not worth it - it’s useless.
    Let them talk of course ... I don’t see any sense from this at this stage.
    Will Israel stop bombing Iranian targets in Syria? - No. Will continue. This is a government strategy.
    Russians will not shoot Israeli planes from the C300? - Why then did the C300 ship to Syria?
    Well, and what is the way out of this outcome, allowing both sides to save face?
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 October 2018 18: 58
      +1
      Che I did not notice an outbreak of anti-Semitism in Russia. Point blank.
      1. brigadier
        brigadier 7 October 2018 19: 13
        0
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Che I did not notice an outbreak of anti-Semitism in Russia. Point blank.

        You are on another site. In a parallel galaxy?
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 October 2018 20: 18
          +2
          No, I live in Russia. laughing In reality (not virtual) there is no anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitic statements on the site are babbling of people who did not take place in life. Like any manifestation of hostility to a person (people, a group of people) on a national / racial / religious basis.
  21. AnarchistVolgograd
    AnarchistVolgograd 7 October 2018 15: 47
    -2
    In Syria, more than 5 Hezbollah and IRGC militants have now died and the military will be the same.
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  23. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 7 October 2018 15: 49
    -3
    21: 38 - Four F-16 takes off from the Air Force base in the south of the country. The IDF warns the Russians about the upcoming air strike.
    21: 42 - Air Force planes arrive at the starting point of attack - east of Cyprus - and launch missiles on the target.
    21: 50 - missiles reach the target and destroy it. IL-20 at this time is in 200 kilometers from Israeli aircraft in Syria’s airspace and flies west.
    21: 52 - Syrian air defense systems (C-200 systems) in the Latakia region launch 27 missiles.
    22: 05 - Israeli planes fly over the Haifa Bay. Syrian rocket hits IL-20.

    The Russian Defense Ministry has driven itself into a dead end with its own lies. On the one hand, by announcing Israel’s fault, it is forced to respond with C-300 supplies and bellicose rhetoric. On the other hand, nothing can be done about Israel’s attacks on Iran’s production and supply facilities for Hezbollah’s missile weapons and are unlikely to try so as not to be disgraced anymore.
    1. purple
      purple 7 October 2018 17: 10
      0
      Quote: A. Privalov
      The RF Ministry of Defense drove itself to a standstill with its own lies.

      What a lie? Rave dear?
      1. shans2
        shans2 7 October 2018 18: 52
        0
        This is an unrespectable camel ... lie to him, how to breathe, how to all of them ... All this shoble was presented with specific radar data, but they still shit on all resources under the cover of "their" ...
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  25. mvd ru
    mvd ru 7 October 2018 16: 21
    +1
    Quote: A. Privalov
    On the other hand, they will not be able to do anything with Israeli attacks on Iran’s production facilities and deliveries to Hezbollah, and are unlikely to try, so as not to become disgraced even more.

    good expert wink reliable, lies and does not blush or believes in his fantasies
  26. jack
    jack 7 October 2018 16: 24
    0
    Quote: brigadir
    This morning they said on the radio that Bibi would judge his wife - for excessive orders of food in restaurants at state expense - of course the charge was sucked out of the finger, but nevertheless it is. So now he needs to shift public attention to other aspects of political action. Here he is, like the sidekick with Putin again, and goes to meet something to grind there. Maybe his wife will leave him behind and will not make hype in the press.

    It is unlikely. Netanyahu is very firmly held in one place and he knows very well that they won’t let him go so easily.
    1. brigadier
      brigadier 7 October 2018 16: 31
      -1
      Quote: Jack
      Quote: brigadir
      This morning they said on the radio that Bibi would judge his wife - for excessive orders of food in restaurants at state expense - of course the charge was sucked out of the finger, but nevertheless it is. So now he needs to shift public attention to other aspects of political action. Here he is, like the sidekick with Putin again, and goes to meet something to grind there. Maybe his wife will leave him behind and will not make hype in the press.

      It is unlikely. Netanyahu is very firmly held in one place and he knows very well that they won’t let him go so easily.

      He always tries to translate the arrows. I think the operation in Gaza is about to begin. Trying is not torture. Bibi virtuoso in the excuses and the way out of problem situations.
  27. 23424636
    23424636 7 October 2018 16: 36
    -4
    Well, a friend was in Tel Aviv on a weekend trip. Before leaving, his heart fluttered a little. My wife took the doctor to the clinic to put a dropper and sho? they gave the tablets twice a half and stuck them with some kind of device - they didn’t diagnose or treat them and in 6 hours in the room 14 Russians were written off the card .. A specific divorce. It’s not for nothing that Brezhnev, despite the fact that he had all kinds of Judeomass under his feet, stopped diplomatic relations for lesser offenses, And here, well, that there 15 Russians filled up with the wrong hands. He will roll and again there will be matzo and 7.40
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 7 October 2018 17: 13
      +2
      "they gave pills twice on the floor and stuck them with some kind of devices" ///
      ----
      Did they stick around with appliances? smile
      Checked the heart and not only, probably? But comrade did not understand ...
    2. Shahno
      Shahno 7 October 2018 17: 13
      0
      Well, you are surprised that we have an ambulance call somewhere so 500 shek (everything is complicated there), if you were diagnosed with procedures, then, of course, under 1000 shek. Didn’t you have insurance ...
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 October 2018 19: 04
        +1
        Quote: Shahno
        Well, you are surprised that we have an ambulance call somewhere so 500 shek (everything is complicated there), if you were diagnosed with procedures, then, of course, under 1000 shek. Didn’t you have insurance ...

        1000 NIS is 16000 rubles.
        They took 14000 from him. Cheto is cheap.
    3. brigadier
      brigadier 7 October 2018 17: 18
      -1
      And I think I know this case. Recently. From the Dnieper?
      If you eat abroad, you should always make normal honey. insurance. Worldwide honey. the services are wildly expensive. This must be taken into account. Your friend made insurance, but the insurance company sent him 3 funny letters, so he had to pay himself and quickly return home, because according to the checks that he did, he needs to do coronary bypass surgery. In Israel, this business is on stream and is done by hundreds in a day in almost all hospitals, but costs money. Hospitalization is also expensive. Israel is generally an expensive country.
      So do normal insurance before traveling abroad and then do not be afraid.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 7 October 2018 19: 07
        +1
        Quote: brigadir
        And I think I know this case. Recently. From the Dnieper?
        If you eat abroad, you should always make normal honey. insurance. Worldwide honey. the services are wildly expensive. This must be taken into account. Your friend made insurance, but the insurance company sent him 3 funny letters, so he had to pay himself and quickly return home, because according to the checks that he did, he needs to do coronary bypass surgery. In Israel, this business is on stream and is done by hundreds in a day in almost all hospitals, but costs money. Hospitalization is also expensive. Israel is generally an expensive country.
        So do normal insurance before traveling abroad and then do not be afraid.

        They checked him in the emergency room. Hospitalization day for a non-citizen of Israel - from 800 dollars (about 50 thousand rubles). Resuscitation - up to $ 1500.
    4. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 17: 35
      +2
      Quote: 23424636
      ... they gave the tablets twice on the floor and stuck them around with some kind of device - they did not write off the diagnosis or treatment and in 6 hours in the room 14 Russians were written off the card ...

      But in the Russian Federation, all this is free, think? For general civil insurance. Itself recently (2 weeks ago) "checked" - everything works.

      They also put me in the hospital, droppers, pills, injections - all for this.

      And after that all sorts of things here ... I will not say who, yelling about the "genocide of the population" negative

      Quote: 23424636
      ... in 6 hours in the room 14 Russians were written off from the card ...

      A little over 200 bucks. This is a little, they could write off more. Everything is expensive there, and everything is paid. Like everywhere (practically) in the world, by the way yes
      1. brigadier
        brigadier 7 October 2018 17: 42
        0
        But in the Russian Federation, all this is free, think? For general civil insurance. Itself recently (2 weeks ago) "checked" - everything works.

        Well, first of all, he is not a citizen nirazu.
        And secondly, nothing happens in life. You have to pay for everything. There is insurance for this.

        By the way, we certainly have wild capitalism, but if an Israeli citizen with all the insurance without a doctor’s direction and an ambulance, and on his own initiative, comes to the hospital’s emergency room and this visit does NOT end with hospitalization, he will have to pay for this visit from of his pocket, even if he has a hundred insurances. Otherwise, everyone will trample to the hospital to measure the temperature.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 17: 48
          +2
          Quote: brigadir
          nothing happens in life. You have to pay for everything. There is insurance for this.

          Yes, I understand everything perfectly. Taxes (in the Russian Federation, essno) - I pay. That's why it's "free".

          The joke is that in the Russian Federation it is free for those including those who do not pay these taxes.

          Quote: brigadir
          Otherwise, everyone will trample to the hospital to measure the temperature

          It's funny ... that's not the case here: in order to get to the emergency room, you have to go through a specialized doctor (or go to the emergency room at the hospital), or come there by ambulance.

          But, even if they’re not hospitalized, you don’t pay anything for it. Apparently, because everyone still knows how to measure the temperature (and not only) laughing
          1. brigadier
            brigadier 7 October 2018 18: 07
            -1
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            It's funny ... that's not the case here: in order to get to the emergency room, you have to go through a specialized doctor (or go to the emergency room at the hospital), or come there by ambulance.

            Well, we have the same. You need to pay only if you just came. Walked - passed by - decided to be checked. (Does not apply to pregnant women in the later stages ... and suddenly gives birth)
            The joke is that in the Russian Federation it is free and for those including those who do not pay these taxes.

            We too. There is a universal health insurance law. The mere fact that you are a citizen of the country gives you the right to free honey. service. You can not pay at all. There are entire groups of the population (orthodox (almost all) or Arabs (many of them work on gray / black salaries ... cash)) who do not pay insurance - and this is 5% of gross earnings - and enjoy all the benefits so to speak .. Well, I think that this is practically everywhere, in all countries - citizens receive basic honey. auto insurance. Even in the US, Obama has achieved this. I just did not follow - like Trump wanted to cancel. I don’t know if he succeeded.
  28. nobody111body
    nobody111body 7 October 2018 16: 55
    +3
    laughter-Jewish invincible ases were shot down on amerskih fs even old c200 Nitsche there is no complicated principle of air defense is almost the same, another thing is "politician" which of the three Putin Lavrov Shoigu will allow Syrian operators to shoot down Israeli planes? that's where the paradox is; after all, the Syrians, even with their outdated air defense, can shoot down not only planes, but also missiles fired by insolent Jewish pilots; the question is how many more corpses of the military are needed so that at least one of our politicians finally gets the determination not to interfere with our allies, the Syrians, Iran, but to help them as the United States does in relation to Israel
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 7 October 2018 19: 09
      0
      The Syrians somehow did not interfere. Lost Syrian Golan Heights laughing
  29. high
    high 7 October 2018 17: 45
    -2
    Quote: A. Privalov
    The Russian Defense Ministry has driven itself into a dead end with its own lies. On the one hand, by announcing Israel’s fault, it is forced to respond with C-300 supplies and bellicose rhetoric. On the other hand, nothing can be done about Israel’s attacks on Iran’s production and supply facilities for Hezbollah’s missile weapons and are unlikely to try so as not to be disgraced anymore.

    You have not discovered America, professionals believe in radar recordings, and ordinary people believe in cartoons. Therefore, Israel is to blame.
    Your aircraft designer clearly explained everything: the base of modern aviation and air defense is based on an electronic system, which Russia previously purchased from the leading countries of the world, and today it purchases from China, which is a couple of decades behind the electronics of the leading countries of the world.
    Alas, the electronics engineer of Israeli aircraft would react to danger earlier and destroy the S-300 automatically.
    Apparently, this is why Putin needs a meeting with Netanyahu, as the Russian independent newspaper wrote, Israel helps Russia save face ...
    http://www.ng.ru/kartblansh/2018-10-04/3_7325_kartb.html
  30. Harry.km
    Harry.km 7 October 2018 17: 49
    +1
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    Quote: Harry.km
    Indicate the place where I lied, or at least where my worldview is wrong ...

    What for?
    So, call me -

    Quote: Harry.km
    ... guide the true sheep of the lost on the path ...

    ... for now ... I will postpone it. Affairs, affairs request

    Well, the argument "get out" has become relevant in dialogue.
    Well then. You FSE lie to G. Jack !!!
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 7 October 2018 17: 59
      0
      Quote: Harry.km
      the argument "vyfsevrete" has become relevant in dialogue.
      Well then. You fso lie

      Yeah. Once again - you for me - an empty place. Even less request

      My condolences : request

      PS: I repeat once again - you will distort the nickname - I will punish yes
      1. Harry.km
        Harry.km 7 October 2018 18: 46
        +1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        Quote: Harry.km
        the argument "vyfsevrete" has become relevant in dialogue.
        Well then. You fso lie

        Yeah. Once again - you for me - an empty place. Even less request

        My condolences : request

        PS: I repeat once again - you will distort the nickname - I will punish yes

        Well, in anger the threats went, the rules of decency and the Russian language were forgotten. Actually, I just expressed my opinion, without even addressing you. Starting a polemic with you on the basis of your own statements is a thankless task, but the problem is that you (this is my estimated point of view) insult me ​​and at least a few of my friends who also read this resource, articles and comments on them .
        PS Indicate how I voluntarily or involuntarily distorted your nickname based on the rules of the Russian language.
        PSS And stop "poking" strangers who are not allowed by upbringing and education to answer you in kind.
  31. borys
    borys 7 October 2018 18: 06
    0
    Especially for Maki Avelievich.
    I don’t know how according to your chosen God, but according to normal human logic
    The difference is fundamental. Any sovereign state has an undeniable
    the right to invite and station foreign military personnel on its territory
    contingents for the destruction of bandits, if not enough own forces.
    By the way, Israel actually helps with its actions.
    gangsters. In general, I must say to the chosen ones - and who are you to
    indicate who can be in Syria and who not? Not your mind
    this case.
  32. GibSoN
    GibSoN 7 October 2018 18: 40
    +1
    I specially observe how in any topic, at least somehow affecting Jews, the maximum popularity)) Can I rename it, say in AEO ?!
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 7 October 2018 18: 53
      0
      Quote: GibSoN
      I specially observe how in any topic, at least somehow affecting Jews, the maximum popularity)) Can I rename it, say in AEO ?!

      This is not only in VO. This is observed in many areas of life in Russia.
      1. shans2
        shans2 7 October 2018 19: 08
        +2
        70% of the Jews in the Russian government, yes ..... but there would be 85% or more, then Ukraine would be solid ...
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 7 October 2018 20: 52
          -1
          And there would be 100 - there would be Israel laughing
          I wonder why in the local authorities (the administration of the province / province / region), in the police, the prosecutor, the investigative committee, the judiciary, special services, among bailiffs and other Jews are minuscule? After all, bread places ...
  33. Alexander Galaktionov
    Alexander Galaktionov 7 October 2018 18: 47
    +1
    In particular, the Israeli proposal to visit Moscow by Defense Minister Lieberman and Prime Minister Netanyahu was rejected. The Russian leadership, according to the newspaper, demanded to leave negotiations in the field of representatives of military departments. However, presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov has already denied this information. Nefig Netanyahu do in Russia!
  34. high
    high 7 October 2018 18: 57
    0
    Quote: borys
    Especially for Maki Avelievich.
    Any sovereign state has an undeniable
    the right to invite and station foreign military personnel on its territory
    contingents for the destruction of bandits, if not enough own forces

    Do you think the military coup committed by the dictatorial clan of Assad and maintaining order with bayonets is a sovereign legitimate state ??
    Read how many times in 40 years the people of Syria rebelled to throw off the dictator’s clan.

    In general, I must say to the chosen ones - and who are you to
    indicate who can be in Syria and who not? This is not your mind.

    Newspapers sometimes need to be read, then they would know that Israel is at war with Syria and Iran.
    Wait until Iran accumulates forces and weapons (it has already imported about 100 thousand Shiite terrorists from Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq to Syria) and destroys Israel (Iran’s ayatollahs constantly say this) any state, including Russia....
    Please note that even Russia does not condemn Israel for attacks against the military bases of Iran in Syria .... Russia does not need Iran with its terrorists in Syria ....
  35. high
    high 7 October 2018 19: 38
    -1
    Quote: Dyusha90
    Yeah, the Jews did business ...

    You're right! Jews gave nuclear weapons and S-300 air defense systems ...
    Twice Hero of Social Labor, laureate of the Lenin, Stalin and State Prizes of the USSR L.V. Lyulyev, a Jew from Kiev, developed the Soviet anti-aircraft missiles for the air defense missile systems: Krug, Kub, Buk with the 9M38 missile (for the Buk, Ural, and M-22 Uragan missile systems).
    The development of the S-300V was carried out by the Novator Design Bureau, headed by Lyulyev, in cooperation with the Antei research and production association.
    Alas, there would be no L. Lyulev, there would be no S-300 air defense system and the world would be calmer ...
    https://kpi.ua/ru/node/8510
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 7 October 2018 20: 37
      +2
      In this regard, I cannot but testify to my respect for Yakov Borisovich Zeldovich and Yuli Borisovich Khariton ...
  36. borys
    borys 7 October 2018 19: 49
    +4
    As always, God's chosen people have special logic. A Pinochet, Somosa, Duvalier
    and a number of characters came to power legally? Or creation itself
    modern Israel happened with the general approval of all
    progressive humanity? Like it chosen by God or not, but
    Bashar al-Assad is the legal head of state. Moreover,
    to the chosen ones. For good, to sit God's choice on the priest exactly and
    Do not go where they do not ask. And so, more and more enemies are making money. One
    times the Jewish people lost their statehood in Roman
    time. As if the second time not to lose. They may not give a third chance.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 7 October 2018 20: 19
      +1
      Quote: borys
      And so, more and more enemies are making

      It is what it is. "Dizzy with success"?
  37. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 7 October 2018 22: 24
    -2
    Quote: Shurik70
    we will not regret shekels

    Who is Shekel who will not regret it? Israel? Yes, they will still write to us for Lieberman’s moral stress.
    At best, bring a couple of tomatoes ... GDP passion as he loves to crush them! On that and calm down.
  38. jack
    jack 7 October 2018 22: 30
    +2
    Quote: borys
    One
    times the Jewish people lost their statehood in Roman
    time. As if the second time not to lose.

    Firstly, the Jewish people have lost their statehood more than once.
    Secondly, just in order not to lose its statehood again, Israel is engaged.
    Thirdly, well, do not worry so much for the Jewish people.
  39. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 October 2018 00: 17
    0
    He is going to convince that only Syria will be bombed.
    Well, or he will beg not to supply more air defense to Syria.
  40. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 8 October 2018 12: 38
    0
    This is geopolitics. I have already said here that the Jews will not shoot at the Syrian C300 (without very serialized need), because there can be Russian soldiers and if the Jews kill (and everyone else) they will get a no-fly zone from Gibraltar to Mars and very, very evil Russian. They don’t need this at all.

    They will try to agree with the Russians, and that’s good. Less stress, fewer dead soldiers.
  41. StudentVK
    StudentVK 9 October 2018 02: 17
    -1
    I hope GDP will not give a descent. And it will be like in a joke: shout shouted but did not.