Russia may lose its monopoly on the Northern Sea Route

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“Just because of global warming, the interest of other countries in the Northern Sea Route may increase. Today, this route has been ice-free for several months a year, ”Alexey Tyukavin, the first deputy governor of the Murmansk region, tells the VZGLYAD newspaper.

In the coming days, the State Duma plans to consider in the second reading a draft law “On Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation Regarding the Regulation of Merchant Shipping in the Water Area of ​​the Northern Sea Route”.

According to this document, transport operators, including foreign ones, should have equal access to the Northern Sea Route (NSR). The law will provide for the introduction of the Arctic ship tax, which should go to cover the cost of infrastructure.

The question of creating a specialized state institution - the Northern Sea Route Administration is also being considered.

In addition, in 2009, a program was developed for the construction of the Murmansk Arctic hub, which is designed to increase traffic through the Northern Sea Route.

The Northern Sea Route is the shortest sea route between the European part of Russia and the Far East, the historically established national unified transport communication of Russia in the Arctic. It passes through the seas of the Arctic Ocean (Kara, Laptev, East Siberian, Chukchi) and partly of the Pacific Ocean (Bering Sea).

The NSR serves the ports of the Arctic and the major rivers of Siberia (fuel, equipment, food, timber, and minerals), and is also used to transport international cargo.

The first deputy governor of the Murmansk region, Alexey Tyukavin, told the VZGLYAD newspaper what stage the implementation of the Northern Sea Route infrastructure development program is currently at.

VIEW: One of the main problems of the SMP is the lack of the necessary infrastructure for the transshipment of goods. At one time, the development program of the Murmansk transport hub was adopted. What main activities will be done?

Alexey Tyukavin: New terminals for transshipment of coal and petroleum products will be built on the western shore of the Kola Bay. On the east coast of the Kola Bay, reconstruction of the existing coal terminal, the construction of a container terminal, and a logistics center are envisaged.

A large-scale subproject will also be implemented - a new railway line is built on the insufficiently developed western coast of the Kola Bay.

VIEW: At what stage is the project now?

А.Т .: The contractor, NPO Mostovik, is completing the design work of the railway infrastructure, as well as the port water area.

VIEW: Is the Northern Sea Route now being used as a transit route by other states?

AT: Not yet, but I think this question will arise soon. The fact is that the legal framework is very old - there is no law on the Northern Sea Route. Traditionally, Russia considered the NSR as its own transport artery, and in order for a foreign ship to pass this way, an appropriate permit is required. Transit implies easy access. There is no easy access yet.


First Deputy Governor of the Murmansk Region Alexei Tyukavin (photo: gov-murman.ru)

LOOK: Well, if the question arises of providing the NSR to other states, can Norway, for example, compete with our icebreaker the fleet? Or does the unconditional right to the NSR provide Russia with a strong icebreaking fleet?

А.Т .: No one in the world has such an icebreaking fleet like ours. And in the second part of the question there is some truth. But just because of global warming, the interest of other countries in the Northern Sea Route may increase.

Today this route is free of ice for several months. 20 had nuclear-powered icebreakers on duty all year round, and ordinary ships could not get there. Now it has become easier - in August, September there is little ice. Therefore, in the summer, large tankers and bulk carriers may pass. There was an interest - because everyone understands that this path is shorter than through the Suez Canal.

But even in summer, when there is almost no ice and it is possible to pass without an icebreaker, we nevertheless require that ships cruising through the NSR be accompanied by icebreakers. The vessel must be under control so that the icebreaker can quickly provide the necessary assistance.

LOOK: Which goods are shipped most often?

AT: Most of the cargoes are minerals, fish and fish products - all 3% of the total.

Now only bulk cargoes can be transported through the SMP - minerals, bioresources. But there is no question about the transportation of goods with the help of container ships. The fact is that large container ships can be held only in summer. They are not faced with the problem of saving time and bringing cargo faster. They need to bring the goods on time and according to the schedule, and since the SMP cannot provide guarantees of cargo transportation all year round, the powerful container lines do not even consider the SMP yet.

By the way, for the first time in stories The shipping container ship made a flight along the NSR without icebreaker escort from Murmansk to China in the 2010 year.

VIEW: What brings the maximum income from the operation of the SMP?

AT: Today there is no such organization that would coordinate the entire work of the NSR. The law on the SMP that is being developed just involves the creation of such an organization. An option is being considered to generate income from the Arctic waybill, which will be used to maintain the infrastructure.

Now all income from the SMP is collected by Atomflot FSUE through tariffs through the use of icebreaking support.

VIEW: Tell me why the tariffs for transporting fish are 10 times higher than for transporting wood - to transport a ton of fish costs more than 1500 rubles, and a ton of wood costs about 200 rubles?

AT: This story is old. The highest tariffs were paid by Norilsk Nickel, because earlier it was the main enterprise that actively worked in the Arctic and paid money to the icebreaker fleet for its maintenance. Approximately 80% of the icebreaker fleet was maintained with the money from Norilsk Nickel. Accordingly, Norilsk Nickel set an approximate tariff plan.

It is clear that for many enterprises that are not connected with minerals in any way, such tariffs are beyond their means. At one time, foresters raised a big fuss because of high tariffs. As a result, they were made special rates at the level of 200 rubles per ton of cargo. At the same time, all other companies paid at high rates - the fishermen paid more than 1000 rubles, and the Norilsk Nickel tariffs exceeded 2000 rubles.

But even this tariff foresters could not pull, they still began to carry by rail.

In turn, Norilsk Nickel, which spent 80 million dollars annually to pay for the tariffs of the icebreaker fleet, decided to build its own icebreaking fleet. Now most of the cargo is transported on its own.

VIEW: What are the prospects for the use of the SMP for tourism purposes?

А.Т .: Every year, cruise ships of foreign cruise companies call at the port of Murmansk. In 2011, cruise ships 11 made calls to Murmansk. On board, about 5 thousands of cruise tourists arrived in Murmansk. In 2012, 15 cruise ship calls are expected at the port of Murmansk.

Unfortunately, at the present time in the seaport, despite the increase in tourist flow, we lack modern infrastructure. All ports are designed for cargo handling.

In order to intensify the passenger flow, the government of the Murmansk region is initiating a project called the Arctic Harbor. It provides for the reconstruction of port facilities of federal property, as well as the construction of infrastructure by private investors.
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  1. +16
    27 May 2012 12: 04
    How do we lose our monopoly? The path works and it is ours.
    1. Neighbor
      +7
      27 May 2012 12: 23
      And .... we will give it to someone! am
      Tortured to pick up! am - so let’s say that it won’t seem small, then we’ll even catch up with it - we’ll finish it! am
      1. YARY
        +6
        27 May 2012 16: 00
        Why didn’t you understand the boys? Our Dumka herself wants to give it away !!!
        Since Shevardnadze gave a piece of our Okiyan and just like the Norwegians were given !!! This is an impudent and open betrayal of those boars that are now "Vlast" angry
        The article clearly states;
        In the coming days, the State Duma plans to consider in the second reading a draft law “On Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of the Russian Federation Regarding the Regulation of Merchant Shipping in the Water Area of ​​the Northern Sea Route”.

        According to this document, transport operators, including foreign ones, should have equal access to the Northern Sea Route (NSR). The law will provide for the introduction of the Arctic ship tax, which should go to cover the cost of infrastructure.


        WHAT ANOTHER EVIDENCE OF A BETTERNESS IS NEEDED ??? !!! angry
        Judging by the fact that the United States set the task of building an icebreaking fleet 2 !!! years ago, this is becoming even more egregious !!! angry angry angry
        1. 3412
          +1
          27 May 2012 17: 58
          YARY approve of moving in the right direction. Dolly this Jewish authority.
        2. CC-18a
          +8
          27 May 2012 22: 33
          You do not know how to read.
          1. They give only equal access to the merchant fleets of ours and not ours. That is, in cases of which a foreign merchant ship will be able to go along our trade route, so far they cannot do this or do it in a one-time form and as an exception.
          2. The sea borders have not been canceled yet, customs, border guards and other things remain the same.

          If someone doesn’t understand ... but as usual, the main thing is to spit on shouting the guard ... sometimes it seems to me that people with 1% current brains, the rest are screaming hens and roosters.
          Karoche In the Duma, they are considering a bill that will regulate the Northern Sea Route in an international aspect, the sea trade route is money, it’s investment, those who are against it are the enemies of Russia, even just because of their stupidity does not relieve you of responsibility.
          1. Fox 070
            -1
            28 May 2012 05: 34
            Quote: CC-18a
            sometimes it seems to me that people with 1% current brains,

            Well, well, buddy, with one percent you obviously got excited. Do not insult colleagues. And as for investments and everything else, I support you. Nobody can take it from us, and it’s quite possible to earn a lot of money on transit.
            1. CC-18a
              -1
              29 May 2012 12: 12
              Judging by what they write here, 1% is still optimistic.
              PS: I don’t insult anyone, it’s just that. For some reason, it is customary for us to consider that a youngster knows much more in economics and politics than a certified and really smart economist or politician. Well, screaming as it should be right in the economy, for example, not having an education economy, is that not dumbness? frank stupidity in fact, and almost everyone sins with this. Just like that
        3. +3
          28 May 2012 01: 18
          Quote: Ardent
          Why didn’t you understand the boys? Our Dumka herself wants to give it away !!!



          what an incomprehensible hysteria? .... read the article again and try to grasp its meaning .. which consists in the fact that all interested persons will be allowed to go through the SVP provided that they pay the corresponding fee, without an icebreaker escort ... let anyone want and as he wants to float, but money ahead .. and rightly so, because you don’t get enough for each icebreaker ship, and if people want and can go then why not let them in and take the money for it? ... what's wrong with this idea, which actually has long been on the surface? ...
        4. Yoshkin Kot
          +1
          28 May 2012 09: 35
          um, the further reading your posts, the more confused I come? Dear Ardent! then you look like a mature person with mature judgments, then excuse me reminding a teenager, as in this area? no, you seriously insist that the British should only pass their ships through Suez? or s through the panama canal?
      2. 0
        27 May 2012 19: 21
        And besides yelling and emoticons, are there any thoughts on the article?
        1. +1
          28 May 2012 00: 34
          something is not clean here laughing

          I am as usual with my news

          Diesel submarine B-800 "Kaluga" project 877.

          Built at the Krasnoye Sormovo Shipyard (Gorky) in 1989.

          It underwent an average repair at Zvyozdochka Ship Repair Center OJSC in 2012.

          February 2 and May 26, 2012:








          USC in the year increased the volume of orders by 30%



          The volume of orders of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) increased in 2011 by 30%, to 191 billion rubles compared to 2010.

          According to Anatoly Tyukov, vice president of the company, the share of civil shipbuilding orders in the total share of company orders currently amounts to only 16%, but the company's strategy envisages its increase to 50%.

          "In recent years in Russia there has been a significant growth in civil shipbuilding, in 2005-2011 the volume of production of civilian ships increased by 4-5 times. At present, a project to build a series of" river-sea "class dry cargo vessels, a project to build a" super trawler "for pollock fishing and a number of other civil shipbuilding projects. By 2020, it is planned to build up to 1,4 thousand vessels... This requires the interaction of leading shipbuilding enterprises, sectoral research centers and federal authorities ", - said Andrey Kurasov, Deputy Director of the Department of Shipbuilding Industry and Marine Equipment of the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation.
          See also: OSK and STX Finland joint venture laid icebreaker to work on Sakhalin

          In accordance with the Federal Targeted Program for the Development of Civil Marine Shipbuilding, it is planned to allocate up to 67 billion rubles from the budget for research and development, writes ARMS-TASS.


          The potential order portfolio may amount to 1,47 trillion rubles, including 880 billion rubles to be allocated for marine equipment for the development of the Arctic shelf.




          http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/17846/
          1. 0
            28 May 2012 01: 09
            Serdyukov saws the fleet! belay laughing
          2. CC-18a
            0
            28 May 2012 01: 19
            Name АPL - date of delivery after modernization / repair / or new construction: (excluding contract orders, only existing and already under construction).

            667BDRM "Dolphin":
            1. K-51 "Verkhoturye" - 2011 repair
            2. K-84 Yekaterinburg - January 15, 2003 (average repair) since 2011 under repair
            3. K-64 (BS-64) - re-equipment according to project 09787
            4. K-114 "Tula" - From June 2000 to April 21, 2004, it underwent medium repair and modernization at the Zvezdochka plant in Severodvinsk.
            5. K-117 "Bryansk" - From November 2002 to October 10, 2007, it underwent medium repair and modernization at the "Zvezdochka" plant in Severodvinsk.
            6. K-18 "Karelia" - From 2004 to 2009 it was repaired and modernized at the Zvezdochka shipyard.
            7. K-407 "Novomoskovsk" - From January to July 2003, underwent maintenance repairs at the "Zvezdochka" plant in Severodvinsk. In November 2008 he arrived at the Zvezdochka plant in Severodvinsk for medium repairs and modernization.

            Project 667BDR:
            8. K-129 (KS-129 "Orenburg" - was upgraded to a carrier of ultra-small submarines [26], under repair (SF)
            9. K-44 "Ryazan" - In 2005 - 2007, service was carried out to extend the turnaround time at the Zvezdochka plant in Severodvinsk.
            10. K-433 "St. George the Victorious" - From February 1993 to July 2003, it underwent medium repair at the Zvezda plant in the village of Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Territory. (The actual repair began in 2001, there was no funding before that)

            Project 941 "Shark":
            11. TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy" - In 2008, it was repaired and modernized at "Sevmash". In 1996, it underwent modernization, at Sevmash in 2008 they said that it was better that they did not touch the boat in 96, because in 2008 they had to redo what they did in 96, then do what they did not finish in 96 and after that just start the modernization planned for 2008 year (triple work)
            12. TK-17 "Arkhangelsk" - Due to the lack of ammunition in 2006, put into reserve, the crew was reduced. Perhaps it will be modernized according to the project 941UM.
            13. TK-20 "Severstal" - In October 2001 - December 2002, it underwent maintenance repairs at the "Sevmash" plant in Severodvinsk. Due to the lack of ammunition in 2004, it was withdrawn to the reserve. Perhaps it will be modernized according to the 941UM project.

            Project 955 "Northwind":
            14. K-535 "Yuri Dolgoruky" - June 19, 2009 On trials
            15. K-550 "Alexander Nevsky" - October 24, 2011 Running tests
            16. Vladimir Monomakh - March 19, 2006 (bookmark)
            17. “Saint Nicholas” - March 18, 2012 (bookmark is expected)
            18. (unknown) - a reserve is created

            Project 885 "Ash":
            19. K-329 "Severodvinsk" - 2012 (commissioning) On the tests
            20. Kazan, 2015 (commissioning) Under Construction
            21. (unknown) - laid down in 2012

            Project 949A:
            22. K-119 Voronezh - In 2004-2006, it was repaired several times at the Zvezdochka plant. In December 2006 she arrived in Severodvinsk for scheduled repairs and modernization. In December 2008, it was docked. In March 2009, the repair and modernization of the boat began at the Zvezdochka shipyard. On May 26, it was launched after undergoing a course of restoration of technical readiness with elements of medium repair.
            23. K-266 "Eagle" - In October-December 2004, it was refurbished. 2008 was under repair
            24. K-456 "Vilyuchinsk" - From 1997 to 2001, it underwent an average repair at the "Zvezda" plant in the village of Bolshoy Kamen, Primorsky Territory. (There was no funding until 2000)
            25. K-442 "Chelyabinsk" - In May 1999 it was put into reserve. According to some reports, in 2002 she completed medium repairs at the plant in Vilyuchinsk. As of March 2009 it is in reserve.

            945 project:
            26. B-276 "Kostroma" - As of 2008 it was under repair.

            971 project:
            27. K-317 "Panther" - On January 28, 2008, the Navy returned to service after repairs, during which hydroacoustic systems, communication and control systems were modernized.
            28. K-154 "Tiger" - From 1998 to 2002 it was under repair at the Sevmash shipyard.
            29. K-391 "Bratsk" - Currently under repair.
            30. K-322 "Kashalot" - Currently under repair.

            Project 971M:
            31. K-335 "Cheetah" - as of 2007 is under repair (not exactly)

            877 project:
            32. B-445 "St. Nicholas the Wonderworker" - In 2002 it was under repair at SRZ-49 in the Seldevaya Bay
            33. B-808 "Yaroslavl" - In 1995 - 2003 it underwent a medium repair at the SRZ-35 in Murmansk.
            34. B-806 - From 2000 to 2003, it underwent an average repair at the "Admiralty Shipyards" plant.

            Project 677 "Lada":
            35. B-585 "St. Petersburg" - April 22, 2010 (Date of signing of the acceptance certificate)
            36. B-586 "Kronstadt" - July 28, 2005 (tab)
            37. B-587 "Sevastopol" - November 10, 2006 (tab)

            06363 project:
            38. "Novorossiysk" - Laid down on 20.08.10, delivery in 2013.
            39. "Rostov-on-Don" - Laid down on 21.11.11, delivery in 2014.

            Total went through modernization / construction / laying from 2000 to 2010 31 nuclear submarines and 8 submarineswhile some have undergone repairs / upgrades several times This is most likely not a complete list.
    2. Bunny
      +8
      27 May 2012 12: 33
      The ice has broken! .. But what is clear is that nothing is clear! Some words. And why does the deputy governor of the Moscow Region comment on the situation with the Northern Sea Route? Or problems with geography like Merkel’s, where is Moscow and the Arctic !!! In general, wait and see .. The shots decide everything. But with the staff we have a problem.
      1. Aleksey67
        +6
        27 May 2012 12: 37
        Quote: Bunny
        . And why does the deputy governor of the Moscow Region comment on the situation with the Northern Sea Route?

        Catherine, you’re not Merkel with her weak eyesight laughing
        Read carefully
        First Deputy Governor Murmansk area Alexey Tyukavin.
        1. Churchill
          +7
          27 May 2012 13: 04
          Aleksey67,
          Hooked Bunny! But look, she has a rifle in her hands!
          Although essentially ... little is changing ... who is Tukavin? ..
          1. Aleksey67
            +1
            27 May 2012 13: 07
            Quote: Churchill
            Hooked Bunny! But look, she has a rifle in her hands!

            She only shoots wolves, and I'm white and fluffy feel
            Quote: Churchill
            Although essentially ... little is changing ... who is Tukavin? ..

            As I understand it, while "zeroing" is in progress, and the main caliber is waiting for its "volley" winked
          2. YARY
            -1
            27 May 2012 18: 41
            It all starts with conversations and hints. Under the USSR, someone stuttered about the return of at least some piece of our land (CHINA), our waters (Norway, USA) ???
            It all starts with talking! In the United States, the CIA and the NSA have such a discipline in training negotiations - the first paragraph says that if an opponent is unintentional to even pronounce a topic of interest, then talking is useless!
            And if the opponent at least somehow reacts to a topic of interest, this is a signal of his weak position in the negotiations.
            As soon as conversations begin, betrayal begins! Who first opened his mouth is that traitor! angry angry angry am
            1. Yoshkin Kot
              0
              28 May 2012 09: 38
              Yeah, but who signed the contract on the border with China, on the fairway of the Cupid? and who gave the sea territories to you? and who during the formation of the USSR gave Poland, Finland, a huge piece of Transcaucasia? the Baltic states? aliens?
    3. Aleksey67
      +4
      27 May 2012 12: 41
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      How do we lose our monopoly? The path works and it is ours.

      Too tasty "piece" and a lot of applicants for it. It will be necessary and necessary to fight for it and diplomacy and the environmental lobby and "unworthy" methods such as arresting ships and large fines for "violations" (such as the Norwegians and our fishing seiners) must be involved. winked
      1. +5
        27 May 2012 13: 25
        Alexei, if I’m not mistaken, then most of the way passes through our waters. This suggests that do not break your mouth on someone else's spine. However, you can choke.
        1. Aleksey67
          +3
          27 May 2012 13: 30
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Alexei, if I’m not mistaken, then most of the way passes through our waters.

          Now many countries are trying to give the Arctic the legal status of a "world heritage" and this against the background of the "bickering" of countries that have valid rights to it angry
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          This suggests that do not break your mouth on someone else's spine. However, you can choke.

          But for this you need to demonstrate strength and presence there and actively build up the icebreaker fleet and "fix troubles" of any type to other "pretenders" wink
          1. +2
            27 May 2012 15: 40
            The title of the article is somewhat alarmist, but the content is quite adequate. You should not rely on the existing power of the icebreaker fleet, but you should increase your presence and mark the boundaries of your possessions. The convention, which was signed by a number of states and declaring a ban on development in the Arctic, actually ordered a long life. Who has a muzzle arrogant, and hides with his charter in this area. It's time and influence to use Russia.
            1. 755962
              +1
              27 May 2012 21: 26
              Is the news too loud? And with what fright should we lose the NSR? It seems like deep monitoring in relation to some partners. Despite all the problems, the intensity of use of the Northern Sea Route will increase, and this is beyond doubt. It’s not even a matter of geographical advantages. The Arctic reserves of minerals are of much greater interest. According to some estimates, in the territory outlined by the Arctic Circle, about a quarter of all undiscovered hydrocarbon reserves are concentrated. There are deposits of other minerals. The ability to solve energy problems due to Arctic reserves attracts attention not only of the northern neighbors, but also of countries where ice can be found only in a glass of whiskey. No longer seems strange the desire of the Chinese polar explorers to go on their own icebreaker "Xuelong" by the Northern Sea Route to Ireland. Probably, soon the name of the Yellow Station polar station will sound as ordinary for us as the North Pole.
  2. Cadet787
    +5
    27 May 2012 12: 26
    Greetings to you, Alexander. I completely agree with you, the title of the article does not correspond to its content. The Northern Sea Route is our wealth. Soon, a struggle will begin for a shelf rich in minerals. We have begun to form an Arctic brigade, but is this enough from a military point of view? For such a territory, one team is a drop in the bucket. With the outbreak of the war for resources, there will be no compromise on the part of our sworn friends. It is worth rethinking everything in detail.
  3. +2
    27 May 2012 12: 35
    Some scientists, those who deal with climate, believe that there will be no warming for another 150 years at least. But still, it seems, it is necessary to increase their potential so that no one would even want to raise questions about the NSR and the Arctic shelf.
  4. PatriotizTAT
    -2
    27 May 2012 12: 42
    Yes, calm down, United Russia rules ... and whatever it wants !!! By the way, do not be indignant at the expense of Serdyukov and other thieves, you have no moral right if you cast your vote for Senor Putin! am so do not enrage people !!!
    1. +1
      27 May 2012 14: 32
      What are you talking about?
  5. +2
    27 May 2012 12: 43
    On the Northern Route, hunter-class submarines are constantly patrolling, and if memory serves, one or two drums. So we are well aware and understand the strategic importance of this path.
    1. Aleksey67
      +3
      27 May 2012 12: 47
      Quote: Averias
      On the Northern Route, hunter-class submarines are constantly patrolling, and if memory serves, one or two drums. So we are well aware and understand the strategic importance of this path.

      Still not to sell icebreakers to foreign companies. The ban at the state level, we have a good "groundwork" in icebreaking since the days of the USSR. And then for the sake of a momentary "penny" missed ... m "millions" in the future. You shouldn't create competitors yourself am
      1. -1
        28 May 2012 16: 38
        Once the icebreaker was sold to Amers, they wanted to go to the Arctic Ocean, it broke on their way halfway. Divorced suckers, broken junk sold. request laughing
  6. +1
    27 May 2012 13: 24
    While the Norilsk Nickel fleet is operating at the NSR, 5 ice-class dry cargo vessels and a tanker, Finns or Swedes from foreign ships come to Dudinka a couple of times a year for gas condensate, and once Norilsk Nickel Monchegorsk drove to Shanghai with nickel and copper and all the shipments. And from the icebreakers only Taimyr and Vaigach go sailing across the Kara Sea, and then in March there was a fire on Vaigach. Now it is being repaired. Ships go from Murmansk and Arkhangelsk, all shipments are mainly for Norilsk Nickel "and Norilsk. In Tiksi and Khatanga, river-sea vessels go along the Lena and carry out northern delivery. And about defense, I can say that it was under the Soviet Union, now whoever wants to have a walk.
  7. S_mirnov
    +5
    27 May 2012 13: 26
    Previously, the income from the same Norilsk Nickel went to the state and it was possible not only to maintain an icebreaking fleet but also build new icebreakers. Now the profit of the Norilsk Nickel is in private hands and is flowing abroad, so the state has no money not only to build, but also to repair the old icebreakers made in the USSR with national money and sold in private hands. And it’s not profitable for private traders to invest in icebreakers, it’s easier to finish off the old ones, and earn the loot earned on them abroad, where taxes are less and officials don’t have to make so much money.
    And the topic of the northern sea route can be procrastinated indefinitely, only to the point of this ZERO!
  8. +7
    27 May 2012 13: 32
    Previously, the nuclear-powered container ship "Sevmorput" went, then the "green" howls raised that the phonite was strong and they put it on. It's a pity, the sauna there was cool and the pool with sea water.

    And this "Vaygach" goes along the Yenisei to Dudinka.
    1. Aleksey67
      +9
      27 May 2012 13: 36
      Quote: Captain45
      The nuclear-powered container ship "Sevmorput" used to go, then the "green" howls raised that the phonit was strong and they put it on a joke

      The “greens” have long turned into a commercial organization, which for money with their shares “eliminate” ordered competitors. I will make a reservation, this statement about the "head" of the organization, fanatics and activists work out as performers for free.
      1. CARBON
        +5
        27 May 2012 22: 22
        For me, "green" is almost the same as blue, especially the notorious organization of Greenpeace, Russian nuclear submarines, icebreakers, factories, missiles and in general everything Russian (except perhaps vodka) for them ... ovno! And the patrons with hawk-nosed noses are all Alright! Get ice on Wrangel Island smile
    2. +3
      27 May 2012 15: 24
      Sorry dear Captain45, but in the picture you cited not "Vaygach", but a linear icebreaker of the "Arktika" type. It's hard to say which one, but it looks like Siberia ...
      "Vaygach" (and "Taimyr" of the same type) looks like this. The ship is of Finnish construction, and has a relatively low side and a high rectangular superstructure, traditional for them ...
      1. Jaromir
        0
        27 May 2012 21: 28
        Chicot 1,
        Since when did the Finns have nuclear reactors?!. If the hull was assembled, then this does not mean that the icebreaker is Finnish!
        1. +2
          27 May 2012 22: 14
          Respected Jaromir, the text of the post says "Finnish-built ship", not "Finnish ship". Do you catch the difference or "and what"? .. As well as with the reactor - to mount it (delivered from the Union) and install it on the ship under construction does not mean at all the "since when" you are asking ...
          I hope that you understand everything, and not "because"? ..
  9. +2
    27 May 2012 14: 10
    S_mirnov,
    Quote: S_mirnov
    Previously, the income from the same Norilsk Nickel went to the state and it was possible not only to maintain an icebreaking fleet but also build new icebreakers. Now the profit of the Norilsk Nickel is in private hands and is flowing abroad, so the state has no money not only to build, but also to repair the old icebreakers made in the USSR with national money and sold in private hands. And it’s not profitable for private traders to invest in icebreakers, it’s easier to finish off the old ones, and earn the loot earned on them abroad, where taxes are less and officials don’t have to make so much money.

    So "Norilsk Nickel" EBN at the suggestion of Red at the auction for loans-for-shares in 96 sold into private hands. That this is also Putin's fault?
    Quote: Aleksey67
    The “greens” have long turned into a commercial organization, which for money with their shares “eliminate” ordered competitors. I will make a reservation, this statement about the "head" of the organization, fanatics and activists work out as performers for free.

    I completely agree, representatives of indigenous and small people are also very active here. A little that we are also indigenous, there are few of us, and in the tundra just before the next elections appear and muddy the water.
    1. +3
      27 May 2012 17: 07
      I completely and completely agree with you about Greenpeace, dear Captain45 и Aleksey67.

      And this is the best remedy in the world for "green letters" at sea. Winter view ... laughing YYY
  10. +4
    27 May 2012 15: 35
    The people have been frightened by global warming for a long time and tightly ... But for some reason (what a paradox !!!) the average annual temperature has become lower than it was registered in previous years ... Such is the heart-monocle, dear users of the site "Military Review" ... wink
    So there is still work for our icebreakers, especially the linear ones ... Yes, and to shout the sacramental "SheFuSeUnAsPropalonafigG !!!" oh, how early. And in our century with you, it certainly will hardly pass away ... smile
    In addition to civilian icebreakers, we also have completely non-peaceful icebreakers ... bully
    1. Dust
      0
      27 May 2012 17: 06
      And what kind of trough is this curious? Is it possible in more detail?
      1. 77bor1973
        +3
        27 May 2012 18: 06
        PSKR 97P judging by the board number of the "Name of the 26th Congress of the CPSU" is now "Murmansk" icebreaker!
        1. +2
          27 May 2012 19: 37
          That's right, dear 77bor1973... This is a project 97P icebreaking patrol ship. These ships were built on the basis of Project 97 icebreakers (one of which was "Otto Schmidt" - an ice-class research vessel). In addition to the 97P, there was a modification of the 97AP. In total, it was built - series 97AP -2 units, series 97P -8 units.
          In addition to the icebreakers of the 97P and 97AP series, icebreakers of the 745P project are also used as patrol ships. They are smaller in size and carry more modest weapons. Built (if not mistaken) 3 units ...

          In the photo below - PSKR "Volga" (project 97P) ...
          1. +3
            27 May 2012 22: 18
            And here is the Project 745P icebreaking patrol ship. Specifically, in this photo PSKR "Kamchatka" ...
            1. +3
              27 May 2012 23: 34
              I also decided to throw off the photo of the 97AP series icebreaker patrol ship. In this picture, the Sadko PSKR ...
  11. Archer
    +1
    27 May 2012 16: 04
    It is necessary to develop the northern fleet, including the military. According to media reports, other countries near the North and not so (for example, China) are either already increasing their groupings, or are going to do so in the near future. By the way, different voices are already being heard for "the common heritage of the world - the NSR"
  12. Dust
    +1
    27 May 2012 17: 08
    If it really hurts someone, then let them look for a short road over Canada - let them do what they want, then they do it, but you can’t go to the Northern Sea Route!
    1. 77bor1973
      0
      28 May 2012 08: 33
      I just don’t understand what the hell then 5 years ago "Enko" was written off, if now they feverishly began to build a fleet, they did not steal money or what?
  13. +5
    27 May 2012 18: 32
    The fact that the idea of ​​free access for the loot is being pushed does not surprise me a little. Since there is no common sense in the State Duma at all. The bulk of these "comrades" are concerned about getting "green" in their pockets. And shit ... they are against Russia. Most already have a real estate, and families behind "Bugr". There is a final sale of Russia and we will see it with our own eyes, at most in the next decade. The government formed, the final proof of this. Sincerely.
  14. +5
    27 May 2012 19: 17
    In the coming days, the State Duma plans to consider in the second reading the bill "On amendments to some legislative acts ......
    According to this document, transport operators, including foreignmust have equal access to the Northern Sea Route (NSR).

    The law on corruption has been passed for 10 years and cannot be adopted at all. The five-year-old fought with pedophiles. And here, please, is the second reading. What the hell is going on? Why let foreigners go where we, with proper organization, can work perfectly? We ask ... that thanks to the Great Ancestors and Nature we have. Decent words for such things are not enough.
  15. +3
    27 May 2012 21: 49
    Hello to all LJ Patriots. In almost poems - Patriots are also from the journal LJ. And why is all the fuss - NSR already sold? If not, then there is nothing to arrange tantrums. But the fact that the Border Guard is reinforcing its presence on this section of the state border is well known. So gentlemen are good, do not wring pens, do not let the crocodile's tears, they do not sell their homeland. Although what is her homeland to you?
    1. CARBON
      +1
      27 May 2012 22: 26
      they write homeland with a small letter am
    2. +2
      27 May 2012 23: 40
      And here I agree with you, rexby63. And then they paint a picture much worse than the one that is depicted even on this apocalyptic crash art ... laughing YYY
  16. +1
    27 May 2012 22: 51
    everything is right here people speak out! it’s a shame for the power ... but they won’t ask us, they will do as they want, and FSUs will be on the people! am
  17. Drugar
    +1
    27 May 2012 23: 18
    I can say that Murmansk is currently experiencing very strange metamorphoses: eternally gouged roads are repaired in ONE NIGHT (!), And quite qualitatively and professionally. Previously, all road works were carried out in the most terrible slush and as much as the mayor puts on his head, apartments are growing in price, like by leaps and bounds, a lot of money is clearly flowing into the region. Earlier, I personally connected all this with the upcoming (possibly) development of the shelf, but now I see that this perspective will be added to this ...
    What Putin has conceived and the company is not known, but, apparently, good money shines here ...
  18. +2
    28 May 2012 01: 47
    I also did not notice any corruption in this law. Well, something like the Panama Canal or the Strait of Suez turns out, what's bad? Hi, swim for yourself, it is beneficial for our icebreaking fleet and seaports and geopolitically, to get used to swimming, not hunting, it will once again yap at us.
    Drughar, well, you shouldn’t reach such suspicion either. Roads are being repaired, what's wrong with that? Yes, even if Putin will have something personal from this Sea Route, what’s the trouble? The country is dropping excess loot, we are not losing any sovereignty here, we are not wasting resources, and if so, then even steal whoever can where, they can give the state a new cow, and here we are indignant!
    1. TekhnarMAF
      +4
      28 May 2012 05: 16
      From Barents to Chukotsky - Russian therweds. Let them walk, the big "Panama Canal" will work out, good money can be obtained for the development of the same NSR, and for insurance to build several nuclear-powered icebreaker-class cruisers for "escorting" and "rolling" the lips on the shelf.
  19. +2
    28 May 2012 07: 53
    All my life this way has been ours. He will remain ours.

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