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The deal with Indonesia for the supply of Su-35 postponed due to sanctions. Is the USA intimidated?

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The implementation of the contract for the supply of Su-11 fighters signed between Moscow and Jakarta has been postponed due to possible sanctions from Washington, reports Kommersant.




The delivery time for the aircraft has been shifted to the right due to the real threat of the introduction of restrictive measures within the framework of the American Counteracting US Enemy Act (CAATSA) - Washington has not given guarantees to the Indonesian authorities not to apply sanctions, the material says.

Difficulties may arise from the Russian side. When implementing the agreement, it was planned to use the credit scheme, the money for which one of the commercial banks was supposed to issue. But this is fraught with great trouble for him (sanctions), since the credit can be regarded by the Americans as “forbidden” cooperation with Rosoboronexport.

At the same time, newspaper sources in the military-industrial complex note that the contract for the sale of the Su-35 retains its legal force. According to one of them, the situation is unpleasant, but in no way critical. The Russian side is in constant contact with the Indonesian partners, and ways out of this situation must be found, the source added.

Recall that in June it became known about the signing of the Russian-Indonesian contract for the supply of X-NUMX Su-11 fighters. It was assumed that the first aircraft Indonesia will receive in October of this year. Today we are talking about other terms. As the Indonesian Ambassador to Russia Mohamed Supryadi said recently, deliveries may begin in October 35 of the year. The deal is valued at $ 2019 billion.
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  1. keeper03
    keeper03 5 October 2018 08: 07
    +18
    A dubious loan contract, and even under sanctions! No. You need to sign a contract with real buyers, for real money! yes
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 5 October 2018 08: 09
      +20
      Revenge the vile Americans! We will fill them with titanium for Boeing and increase the supply of taxiways!
      1. krot
        krot 5 October 2018 08: 24
        +17
        I agree! No loans to such countries! Then you have to write off debts, anyway!
        1. hrych
          hrych 5 October 2018 09: 29
          +11
          Let them keep their palm oil, which this tear wanted to pay.
    2. BVS
      BVS 5 October 2018 08: 39
      +1
      Give a list of potential "real buyers, real money". Or give a list of countries to which arms were sold earlier for "real money" and not on credit.
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher 5 October 2018 08: 46
        +10
        Quote: bvs
        List potential "real buyers, real money"

        Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Italy, Norway, the Netherlands, Turkey ... You won’t remember everyone ... India, by the way, buys from the USA for money, but with us on credit ...
        1. Serge Gorely
          Serge Gorely 5 October 2018 08: 50
          +3
          Quote: Puncher
          Quote: bvs
          List potential "real buyers, real money"

          Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Malaysia, Italy, Norway, the Netherlands, Turkey ... You won’t remember everyone ... India, by the way, buys from the USA for money, but with us on credit ...

          Patamushta - Russia is a generous soul!
          1. venik
            venik 5 October 2018 13: 53
            +1
            Quote: Serge Gorely
            Patamushta - Russia is a generous soul!

            ======
            This is because "Serge Gorely" is a little "out of touch" ..... fool
            Well, "they did not inform HIM" What, HOW and FOR WHAT "....... And" show off "- HOTS-TS_A !!!!
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 5 October 2018 08: 57
        +3
        I think there are practically no such ... unfortunately. It’s a pity, but our customers are mostly Holodians (with rare exceptions).
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 5 October 2018 09: 31
          0
          Quote: Kent0001
          I think there are practically no such ... unfortunately. It’s a pity, but our customers are mostly Holodians (with rare exceptions).

          Azerbaijan buys for quite good money, but Armenia is preferable to you.
      3. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 5 October 2018 09: 40
        +2
        Quote: bvs
        Give a list of potential "real buyers, real money".

        China, India, Algeria - the largest buyers of Russian weapons
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 5 October 2018 10: 07
          +1
          It is hard to imagine why this poor country has our fighters. If they do not repay the loan - well then - will they be returned to us using it? request
          1. keeper03
            keeper03 5 October 2018 11: 09
            0
            They will transfer the Su-35 technology to the USA! How strange it is. hi The CIA is not asleep. angry soldier
            1. KCA
              KCA 7 October 2018 09: 51
              +1
              Already, the S-300s were sent from Cyprus to Greece, and China bought the planes, you can copy them, the question is HOW there is a bike - not a bike, as during the Second World War at one of the plants the quality of the PCA produced sharply deteriorated, counterintelligence in the stirrup and for investigation , in the end, it turned out that the turner who made the trunks fell ill and did not work when he was interrogated with all addiction, it turned out that he urinated in the barrel for hardening the trunks, so as not to leave his workplace, and not slow down the pace of production, who could repeat such technology with only a trunk?
    3. helmi8
      helmi8 5 October 2018 11: 02
      0
      Quote: keeper03
      You need to sign a contract with real buyers, for real money!

      The deal is valued at $ 1,14 billion.

      Not such a deal to get yourself a headache in the form of credit defaults ...
  2. another RUSICH
    another RUSICH 5 October 2018 08: 33
    0
    And what, Indonesia alone needed "drying"? Nivapros. Not needed, fly the Northrop
    1. Serge Gorely
      Serge Gorely 5 October 2018 08: 53
      +2
      Quote: another RUSICH
      And what, Indonesia alone needed "drying"? Nivapros. Not needed, fly the Northrop

      That is why the first place in the export of US weapons.
      1. another RUSICH
        another RUSICH 5 October 2018 12: 35
        0
        This is a different question. But we are not talking about what and who is selling, but what they are going to fight with. I would not be surprised if the sshats have a couple of dozen "jesters" or "cybers", or "corsairs" in their stores for sale.
        They want to fly on this junk - please. And Russia is neither cold nor hot from this. The line for drying
  3. _Kotegpushisteg_
    _Kotegpushisteg_ 5 October 2018 08: 34
    +3
    thanks to the Americans, they didn’t give the aircraft for palm oil and bribes to the responsible guys from defenseexport
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    2. helmi8
      helmi8 5 October 2018 11: 07
      0
      Quote: Puncher
      It is a pity that the law on criminal liability for compliance with anti-Russian sanctions was not adopted, I would have looked like a "vovin shadow bank" would be spinning like a snake in a frying pan ...

      And how many laws have we adopted to improve the life of the population and aimed at developing the country? So I find it difficult to answer. I can only say that there is not a single law that would somehow harm the ruling and the oligarchy ...
    3. another RUSICH
      another RUSICH 5 October 2018 12: 38
      0
      And for me, it's time to move away from lending practices.
      The Chinese, for example, do not lend. They give money against assets. He didn’t return the grandmother — he lost a plant, land, deposit, etc.
  5. Victor_B
    Victor_B 5 October 2018 08: 44
    -1
    Well, here's another shit at the door ...
    How not to "enter" ...
  6. Smoked
    Smoked 5 October 2018 08: 50
    +2
    The first one went and this is logical. Not everyone can like China, but at the expense of India we will soon find out.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 October 2018 08: 51
    +3
    the situation is unpleasant, but in no way not critical
    Today it’s possible. And what will happen tomorrow when others, out of fear of US sanctions, begin to abandon Russian weapons? Well, at least something still needs to be answered by the Americans, even taking into account our economy. Unrequited actions only encourage their further use. Tomorrow they will introduce individual sanctions on a national basis - Russian, which means everything is forbidden.
  8. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 5 October 2018 09: 12
    +1
    The guys were blown away quickly ......
  9. Runoway
    Runoway 5 October 2018 09: 16
    0
    The good news is, we don’t need palm oil, leave the birds in our VKS
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 5 October 2018 10: 09
      0
      No need to make potential aggressors out of monkeys! stop
  10. Machete
    Machete 5 October 2018 10: 38
    +1
    A new method of promoting goods in the USA: buy someone else's - sanctions, do not buy ours - sanctions. The dream of the marketer.
  11. Chicha squad
    Chicha squad 5 October 2018 10: 47
    +1
    Well, they said sanctions do not work.
  12. 3vs
    3vs 5 October 2018 11: 02
    0
    Let them take gold!