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Who are you going to shoot down? The OSCE found in the Donbass SAM "Buk" APU

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The OSCE monitoring mission (SMM) discovered the Buk anti-aircraft missile systems belonging to Kiev in the area of ​​the demarcation line in the Donbas, RIA reports News with reference to the press service of the mission.


Who are you going to shoot down? The OSCE found in the Donbass SAM "Buk" APU


As reported on the OSCE website, an unmanned aerial vehicle launched by observers of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) mission to track the illegal presence of heavy weapons in the area of ​​the demarcation line according to the Minsk Agreements was recorded by the Ukrainian Buk anti-aircraft missile systems located at a railway station in a populated area. point "Rubezhnoe" on the territory controlled by Kiev. At the same time, claim in the OSCE, 28 September at the station were three missile complex 9Л37 "Buk" APU, and on September 29, the drone fixed one of the air defense missile systems on a platform truck prepared for shipment.

The official representative of the People’s Militia of the LPR, Andrei Marochko, stated that the Buk air defense system was intended for the destruction of airplanes, helicopters and cruise missiles, but there was not one of the weapons mentioned above in the LPR. Thus, it is not clear what the Ukrainian Buk air defense system is doing in the area of ​​the demarcation line.
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Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
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  1. faterdom
    faterdom 2 October 2018 17: 05
    +19
    Waiting for his Boeing.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 2 October 2018 17: 06
      +9
      Obviously they are preparing a provocation .. everyone is muddying something ..
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 2 October 2018 17: 45
        +4
        Quote: Svarog
        Obviously they are preparing a provocation .. everyone is muddying something ..

        So the excitement around Ukraine is abating, and grandmothers for barking towards the Russian Federation are already used to getting ... trained like Pavlov’s dog.
    2. Winnie the Pooh
      Winnie the Pooh 2 October 2018 17: 10
      +8
      Quote: faterdom
      Waiting for his Boeing.

      The United States will drive ... And perhaps they are afraid of the Russian air forces, the Bandera are insolent in the end, scorching from all trunks and peacefully dying en masse in the Donbass. The tension increases, as does the debt of Kiev exponentially .. They want blood to pay the IMF again?
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 2 October 2018 17: 20
        +6
        Quote: Winnie the Pooh
        Bandera insolent in the end

        Mikhan, as there in Canada, Bandera is not visible? hi All the same, their second homeland. wink
      2. Faceless
        Faceless 2 October 2018 17: 23
        +2
        Modern electronic warfare systems installed on airplanes of the Russian Aerospace Forces make Soviet-made BUKs that are in service with the Ukrainian Armed Forces pointless. Not so long ago we had a conflict where the other side used containers from BUKs to be transported by kamaz. The results of the work were very modest.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 2 October 2018 17: 28
          -2
          This is not the conflict where Tu22 and three Su25 shot down?
          1. Rusj
            Rusj 3 October 2018 07: 11
            +5
            Yes, imagine they were shot down! Firstly, this is a war, and secondly, they simply could not believe that Ukrainians sold Buki to the Georgians simply a factor of surprise! And when they realized that this was so, then all the books during the day were destroyed along with the calculations! And then they wrote on the fence! Comrades Georgians learn to fight again, let's check!
            And you’d better be silent; you’re no one at all; at least that country whose flag you write.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 3 October 2018 07: 16
              -6
              There was no surprise .... BUKI were declared in the UN report. The army was in ruin, as it is now in Ukraine. The Air Force acted separately from the army, the Minister did not answer the day for calls, etc.
        2. Sergey Goncharov
          Sergey Goncharov 2 October 2018 17: 57
          -2
          Modern electronic warfare systems installed on airplanes of the Russian Aerospace Forces make Soviet-made BUKs that are in service with the Ukrainian Armed Forces pointless

          Ага. lol Especially those that "stand" on the Su-25 and Mi-24 ... laughing laughing
          1. venik
            venik 3 October 2018 08: 49
            +3
            Quote: Sergey Goncharov
            Yeah. lol Especially those that "stand" on the Su-25 and Mi-24 ... laughing laughing

            ======
            Especially "Lever" (Mi-8 REB) and "Khibiny" (Su-24) !!! There was a self-taught wit! fool
        3. Sandor Clegane
          Sandor Clegane 2 October 2018 18: 51
          +1
          Quote: Faceless
          0
          Modern electronic warfare systems installed on aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces make Soviet-made BUKs pointless

          are you telling your loved ones from the deceased IL-20 ...... they generally shot at two hundred
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            1. Sandor Clegane
              Sandor Clegane 3 October 2018 14: 39
              0
              Quote: venik
              But what if the downed IL-20 was an EW airplane ??

              ?? and we only have airplanes and helicopters EW, is electronic warfare means ???
              Quote: venik
              So - on RTR airplanes, electronic warfare equipment is not provided at all

              that is, they have no means of defense against a missile attack ???
              1. venik
                venik 3 October 2018 15: 55
                0
                Quote: Sandor Clegane
                that is, they have no means of defense against a missile attack ???

                ======
                Imagine "Danila" - WELL, THERE ARE NO THEM !!!!! There is generally "nowhere to turn" !!! The equipment - albeit reliable, but old (and in this way - GROOMOZDKAYA !!!) ... In addition - RTR aircraft - are designed for flights "along the borders" or "in neutral waters" (and the longer they can stay in the air - ALL THE BETTER!!!)...
                In general, RTR aircraft are NOT the Air Force or VKS - this is the GRU !!!
    3. 210ox
      210ox 2 October 2018 17: 18
      +1
      Rather a stranger. As for "their", I'm not sure what they have.
    4. The black
      The black 2 October 2018 17: 31
      +2
      Provocation - a favorite method ukrovermahta
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 2 October 2018 17: 39
      0
      Quote: faterdom
      Waiting for his Boeing.

      The first thing I thought about.
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 2 October 2018 22: 07
        0
        Quote: Balu
        Quote: faterdom
        Waiting for his Boeing.

        The first thing I thought about.

        And the first thing I thought about was that the OSCE observers somehow miraculously regained their sight. Prior to this news, they had not seen anything point-blank ... neither the Urkain tanks dug in near residential buildings covered with a human shield, nor the shelling of civilians in Donbass, nor the toad races in the gray zone. And then suddenly they saw the light before the BEKs were discovered. Obviously, a serious provocation was being prepared, which the breadwinners of this structure did not need at all and who considered it for the good to disrupt it at the preparatory stage. It is better to fire a couple of "sighted" inspectors later than to get involved in a war with an unpredictable outcome.
    6. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 2 October 2018 18: 51
      -1
      SAM "Buk" is designed to destroy aircraft, helicopters and cruise missiles, but none of the above weapons are in the LPR.

      In fairness, it should be noted that the LPR militia in 2014 managed to land and capture at least 2 helicopters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. A direct participant in the events, a volunteer of the "Zarya" battalion, Sergei "DJ Vatnik" Vasilevsky, wrote about this in his autobiographical novel "VZVOD: The History of the LNOB" Zarya "reconnaissance platoon (I recently added it in full; ...
      1. Comrade Beria
        Comrade Beria 2 October 2018 20: 20
        -1
        God have mercy, what can be captured after getting a Buk? wink
        1. Kuroneko
          Kuroneko 3 October 2018 00: 52
          +1
          I did not say that they fell into these helicopters, dear.
          I said that they were landed. Those. forced to surrender. For details - to Sergey Vasilevsky. There is no need to lie to him.
          PS My minus, yes. For the inability to carefully read the words of the interlocutor.
    7. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 2 October 2018 19: 09
      -1
      OSCE detects Buk air defense missile system of Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbas

      Protokaklah from Tymoshenko podsuetsilsya, cut off, just in case, petyunu fly to Rostov! What if he rattles after the election ..... yes
    8. Normal ok
      Normal ok 3 October 2018 19: 06
      -1
      Who are you going to shoot down? The OSCE found in the Donbass SAM "Buk" APU

      Duc no one hides that there are Buki and S-300. Plus, each brigade has regular air defense systems: Shilki, Tunguska, Wasps, etc. Why this excitement? What is there to discuss something?
  2. PalBor
    PalBor 2 October 2018 17: 06
    +1
    Have you decided to strike the republics with the onset of frost? And "Buki" against VKS? In give ...
  3. BVS
    BVS 2 October 2018 17: 22
    0
    Is it possible to clarify - in what report of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine is this information posted, that is, for what number.
    1. Niko-zhukov
      Niko-zhukov 2 October 2018 19: 57
      +1
      Quote: bvs
      Is it possible to clarify - in what report of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine is this information posted, that is, for what number.

      And what? You are not allowed on the OSCE website? https://www.osce.org/en/special-monitoring-mission-to-ukraine/398255
      1. BVS
        BVS 2 October 2018 20: 06
        +1
        Thank you, earlier I went through this paragraph.
        1. Niko-zhukov
          Niko-zhukov 2 October 2018 20: 24
          0
          hi Do not mention it.
  4. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 2 October 2018 17: 35
    +3
    the phenomenon-blind obseshniki `` beech '' noticed, and even considered that ukroinsky, and not with the emblem of Moscow or Tambov, for example. wassat
  5. 178
    178 2 October 2018 17: 36
    +5
    Not invented by us. "Where the crest passed, there is nothing for a Jew to do"
    I had a friend. So, when he talked with Jews - he positioned himself as a Jew. When he talked with Ukrainians - he is a crest. Well, and, accordingly, with the Russians - he is Russian.
    I could not understand who he was by nationality. And then recently I found out that (hold on to a chair) his mother is a hohlushka, and his father is Jewish.
    Dangerous mix
    So I wanted to say everything about Potroshenko
    1. YarSer88
      YarSer88 2 October 2018 17: 51
      +2
      And who is he by nationality? Among Jews, nationality is transmitted by mother (that is, not a Jew), among Ukrainians by father (that is, not a crest), so who?
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 2 October 2018 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: YarSer88
        so who?

        Quote: Almost Pushkin
        ... not a raccoon, not a frog,
        And the little animal is unknown

        laughing
      2. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 2 October 2018 18: 55
        +2
        Evrekhohl or hohlorei)) Mutant in general))
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  6. Georges Pompidou
    Georges Pompidou 2 October 2018 17: 43
    0
    Quote: Svarog
    Obviously they are preparing a provocation .. everyone is muddying something ..

    Now the provocation has failed.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 3 October 2018 05: 59
      0
      You overestimate the number of convolutions in the command of the Armed Forces, in the collective brain of Zrada and the head of Parsley.
  7. Vard
    Vard 2 October 2018 17: 50
    +1
    I think they will knock down one of the Ukrainian planes ... and again hang on the militias ...
  8. Jerk
    Jerk 2 October 2018 17: 53
    +1
    MINSK, October 2 - RIA Novosti. Kiev did not agree with the proposal to ban shelling of civilian targets in the Donbass, said Russia's representative at the talks in Minsk, Boris Gryzlov.
    The idea also included a ban on sabotage and reconnaissance in the territories of the parties to the conflict. The proposal was supported by the OSCE, Moscow and the self-proclaimed DPR and LPR, however, Ukraine opposed.

    RIA News https://ria.ru/world/20181002/1529825086.html
  9. Sergey Goncharov
    Sergey Goncharov 2 October 2018 17: 54
    +2
    What is especially funny - the Buk air defense missile system from Donbass of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is actually never и not displayed. laughing laughing
  10. Troll
    Troll 2 October 2018 17: 58
    +2
    If you don’t mock or mock, then deploying beeches they did the right thing. Modern troops should have some kind of anti-aircraft defense that protects against potential threats. There are no letak barmales in Syria either, and are not expected, but despite this, Russia equipped it with air defense, which has even come in handy.
    Do not underestimate the APU, it’s not really there and the headless ones serve.
    1. Jerk
      Jerk 2 October 2018 18: 13
      +5
      There are litak ISIS there. With six pointed stars
    2. Comrade Beria
      Comrade Beria 2 October 2018 21: 05
      +2
      Quote: Troll
      There are no letak barmales in Syria either, and are not expected, but despite this, Russia equipped it with air defense, which has even come in handy.

      Why not? The local barmalei and F-22 have there, and F-35, not counting the small things in the form of F-16-18. repeat
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 2 October 2018 18: 43
    +3
    Strange questions are asked at the OSCE. What, how? Often, the RQ-4 Global Hawk circles over the Donbass, the EP-3E Aries II Orion is on the Russian borders over the Black Sea. Who will be to blame if they accidentally go to the bottom of the Black Sea?
  12. vladcub
    vladcub 2 October 2018 19: 04
    +1
    Last time there was a Golan plane, and now whose?
    1. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 2 October 2018 19: 27
      +1
      To fan the fading conflict in the Donbass, a notable victim is needed, so the next downed plane will be striped
  13. vit357
    vit357 2 October 2018 20: 10
    +3
    Fathers! They have ripened! God has given mercy)))
  14. olgen
    olgen 2 October 2018 20: 52
    +1
    as the scripture says, “Let him that seeker establish it.” Probably in this situation, the OSCE has been unable to ignore such impudence.
  15. Comrade Beria
    Comrade Beria 2 October 2018 21: 01
    0
    What can be said about this? It is necessary to rewind time for 2014.
    I will not recall the exact chronology, but I will try to observe the order.

    In those days, information passed that the Su-25 attack aircraft was captured in the LPR at the airport, and it was being prepared for a sortie. Then came the information that the aircraft made several successful sorties.

    The actions of Ukraine, if anyone is bombing us, then this is only Russia. Therefore, evidence is needed in the form of a downed Russian Su-25. Beeches were deployed in the Donbass, to which there are not a few confirmations on the Internet from Ukraine itself.
    Now let us recall the late pilot Voloshin. And his words: "The plane was at the wrong time and in the wrong place." Of course, Voloshin did not shoot down the Malaysian Boeing. However, he found himself in the same line of fire with him. About the same as the IL-20 with the Israeli F-16. The beech is "smarter" than the S-200, so it immediately reacted to the Boeing, because Voloshin's plane responded to friend or foe. There was no other target other than Boeing.
    And then played the fact of unprofessional calculation. Or there was not enough time to decide on the self-destruction of the rocket.
    Next, we need to look at what followed in our personnel issue after the downing of a Boeing.
    The head of intelligence of the Southern Military District was dismissed, as I believe, for the inaction shown in covering the situation.


    They need the wreckage, that in 2014, now, and that there would be Russian identification marks, and not like in the story with the Dutch presentation of numbers.
  16. turcom
    turcom 2 October 2018 21: 25
    0
    Call for an answer - they habitually refuse that there can be no way there. Well then, with Points-U (Iskander sorry to spend) bring them to the place of correspondence, i.e. nothingness.
  17. Evil 55
    Evil 55 3 October 2018 02: 06
    0
    What they’re doing, what they’re doing ... They’ll transfer them to the border with Belarus and try to bring down the civilian side there again ...
  18. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 October 2018 05: 55
    +1
    "Thus, it is not clear what the Ukrainian Buk air defense systems are doing in the area of ​​the demarcation line." - WHAT THEY DO, WHAT THEY DO ... THE BOEING IS WAITING! ... Maybe they will agree to Airbus ???
  19. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 3 October 2018 07: 01
    +2
    Do they all have rockets? Or is one missing? ..
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 4 October 2018 04: 31
      0
      What you, however, are not tactful ... you ask such questions ... you still ask about the documentation ...
  20. Kokarev Mikhail
    Kokarev Mikhail 3 October 2018 12: 06
    0
    Still dreaming of bringing down Putin’s plane! :))))))
  21. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 3 October 2018 12: 23
    0
    It seems to me that these lads are planning another massacre to destroy and bring down planes and helicopters of the Russian Federation, if the Russian Federation rejoins LDNR.
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 4 October 2018 04: 32
      0
      Fingers in the ass and not helicopters and planes!