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As an "uneducated" Kalashnikov was able to create the perfect machine

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The Kalashnikov assault rifle was created over 70 years ago. But him история still provokes heated discussions. Who created it? How to call him? As a person who does not have a profile education, could construct such weapon?


There is a bike that in fact the machine gun was developed by the German gunsmith Hugo Schmeisser on the basis of the Sturmgewehr assault rifle. Schmeiser actually worked in Izhevsk from 1946 to 1953 a year. From a technical point of view, this theory does not hold water — there is little in common between the two rifles. Moreover, the AK was originally developed in Kovrov, a thousand kilometers from Izhevsk. And so the German could not physically participate in the creation of "Kalash."

Many wonder how an inexperienced designer Kalashnikov was able to develop such a perfect weapon? But the fact is that in 1946, the Kalashnikov was no longer an inexperienced designer. By that time, he had managed to develop four different models: two submachine guns, one carbine and one light machine gun. All these projects failed, but they gave him one thing - the experience he used to create AK.

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  1. Chichikov
    Chichikov 2 October 2018 16: 13
    +14
    As an "uneducated" Kalashnikov was able to create the perfect machine

    Just like an uneducated Lefthander shoeed a flea, and the peasant sons smashed the educated general of the Wehrmacht and flew into space!
    1. figwam
      figwam 2 October 2018 18: 18
      +3
      Not serial samples of Kalashnikov.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 4 October 2018 13: 11
      -3
      Yes Yes. After the enormous efforts and means were invested in the training of these peasant sons. Well, the Wehrmacht generals are just a vivid example of the degradation of the hereditary aristocracy, in which outspoken old people can stay up against the hard-updated based on the professional suitability of the relatively young commanders.

      At the level of the battalions, the Red Army against the Wehrmacht, there was simply nothing to catch, the level of the initial individual training of fighters is incomparable. Actually, the second world was won by heavy artillery, if its efforts brought together the competent leadership in the right place, then it would crush everyone, even Vanya from a plow with 4 classes, even Hans with 9.
  2. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 2 October 2018 16: 37
    +3
    How could a person without a specialized education design such a weapon?

    Only 2 words - "NIPSVO" and "Kovrov".
    The first gave a basis for serial and experimental rifle shooting from around the world and the results of its tests, as well as the methodology for standard weapon tests - what is important and what is not. And the second is the help of Design Bureau Degtyarev.
    1. beeper
      beeper 3 October 2018 00: 58
      +3
      Quote: Alexey RA
      How could a person without a specialized education design such a weapon?

      Only 2 words - "NIPSVO" and "Kovrov".
      The first gave a basis for serial and experimental rifle shooting from around the world and the results of its tests, as well as the methodology for standard weapon tests - what is important and what is not. And the second is the help of Design Bureau Degtyarev.

      hi NIPSMVO-gave almost everything, including qualified timely consultations of experienced and competent gunsmiths, and a lot of free close communication with the outstanding designer of the first acceptable Soviet assault rifle coming to the test under the patron of the model 1943, A.I.Sudaev, known With their ability to think and see the essence of the created design in an extraordinary way, by no means skimp on practical advice to their colleagues!
      In Kovrov, M.T. Kalashnikov was very lucky with the experienced and sensible design engineer Alexander Alekseevich Zaitsev attached to him from the factory design bureau ... IMHO
      1. bunta
        bunta 3 October 2018 08: 05
        +3
        "Experienced and intelligent" design engineer Zaitsev immediately went to the front after graduating from college. When he returned, he worked in his specialty for only four months before starting work with Kalashnikov. Where does the "experience" come from? A smart guy, the same as Kalashnikov, but with knowledge of ESKD requirements, technology features.
        1. beeper
          beeper 3 October 2018 11: 15
          +2
          Quote: bunta
          "Experienced and intelligent" design engineer Zaitsev immediately went to the front after graduating from college. When he returned, he worked in his specialty for only four months before starting work with Kalashnikov. Where does the "experience" come from? A smart guy, the same as Kalashnikov, but with knowledge of ESKD requirements, technology features.

          hi Why not ?! Ability to draw (SEVovskaya ESKD in the "holy Stalinist times" ??? winked , but your very own, dear Andrei Kulikov, understood the first thought, the basics of drawing remained unchanged yes ), the ability to meaningfully sketch a sketch of a part-node, and spatial thinking mean a lot to the designer. Of course, experience also means a lot in designing, it is also clear that the Kovrov gunsmiths-degtyarevs gave to the seconded competitors (Kalashnikov and Deikin), probably their most invaluable, inexperienced employee ?!
          But, nevertheless, according to the memoirs of Mikhail Timofeevich himself, Aleksandr Alekseevich Zaitsev took up the work with enthusiasm and took an active part in the design of technical documentation and the constructive solution of parts and assemblies, as well as in, in its own way, the famous, initiative re-arrangement of the machine, which predetermined success in trials, so it’s not so simple. wink
          According to some recollections of contemporaries, Kalashnikov and Zaitsev, as seasoned privates (who fought a tanker and a gunner-radio operator of an attack aircraft), quickly became friends and this helped them a lot in working together. It is clear that the radio operator, by definition, must understand the device of air machine guns and air cannons, be able to disassemble, assemble, maintain and clean, independently quickly eliminate minor malfunctions and delays in firing, so A.A. Zaitsev was his own kind, an experienced gunsmith, "worked in his specialty" and you can hardly call him an amateur! yes
          For some reason, it is believed (I come across this from time to time on near-arms forums) that M.T. Kalashnikov allegedly "crushed competitors" and "blurred" the participation of his assistants in the creation of the famous Soviet machine gun, but I would not say that.
          MihTim, in his published memoirs and in his lifetime interviews, always spoke warmly of them and, if possible, listed the most distinguished ones, be they a constructor or a locksmith, and not fumbling with high ranks.
          He spoke more clearly about competitors: "Whoever can make an automaton better and easier will sincerely shake his hand!"
          PS As a kid, I heard these words of him for the first time, and then I was eager to create a better and simpler Kalashnikov assault rifle for our Soviet army, so that the famous "MikhTim" shook my hand and, in principle, I probably now know how to do it, but the last of the great cohort The gunsmiths whose hand I wanted to shake are no longer alive, and the current ones are not interesting to me.
          1. bunta
            bunta 3 October 2018 12: 50
            +2
            Quote: pishchak
            Ability to draw (SEVovskaya ESKD in the "holy Stalinist times" ??? winked, but your very, dear Andrey Kulikov, understood the first thought, the basics of drawing remained unchanged

            Five points, did not expect such a subtle penetration of the wash, that is what I meant. As for Zaitsev. Now, if you look at the history of development, you find that very often all outstanding developments were created in tandem. Bill Gates and Paul Allen, Steve Jobs and Wozniak, Gryazev and Shipunov, etc. Yes, and I myself worked in such tandem with a friend when we were writing our ingenious program. Zaitsev's contribution to participation in the development was evaluated fairly objectively. The fact when the idea of ​​rearrangement arose and Kalashnikov doubted, and Zaitsev supported (convinced, convinced?) Does not say exactly anything. If Kalashnikov himself had not mentioned this in his book, no one would have known about this fact. Moreover, Kalashnikov doubted the timing, and not the very need for rework. And I think that even without this very rearrangement, Kalashnikov would have won the competition. In any case, Bulkin has a stop. In general, rework, re-assembly is a normal stage in development. The Su-27 also became the best in the world after such a rearrangement, when it was already accepted for production. This is, in principle, some indicator of the viability of the idea and the developer's abilities. At any stage. Only a self-confident, capable of working 26 hours a day, a designer is able to decide on a rework. At the expense of rumors - "crushing competitors", "blurring", only people far from the topic can argue, whose technical level is not higher than the applicability of a roll of electrical tape. The developer's work is not easy, intrigues and other misunderstandings are present like any layer of society. Nothing more and nothing less, only they are much more complex and not at all as primitive as they are described in these near-weapon forums. For example, a story about how the military representative refused to finalize the AK at the stage of development. Kalashnikov went to the trick there, and the revision was made.
            1. beeper
              beeper 3 October 2018 15: 07
              +1
              Yes, there’s another one of my lengthy comments, below, on the diagrams of the locking nodes, to you, it is hopelessly frozen when sending request . I will answer in this, all the more so, I see that we seem to have no contradictions in the main views on the topic. winked
              The advantages and disadvantages of all locking schemes were disassembled, if my memory serves me, even in the prewar books on the design and design of small arms V.G. Fedorov, A.A. Blagonravov and other authors.
              There is nothing military-secret about that - the longer the locking unit, the greater the amount of elastic deformations in it during working loads. And the schemes for locking the barrel by skewing the bolt and spreading the lugs also have a "wedging effect (absent in the locking scheme by rotating the bolt)" when rolling, which has a negative effect in the complicated operating conditions of the weapon.
              One of the keys to the success of the Kalashnikov locking scheme is the placement of a drive "automatic cam", which controls the locking and unlocking of the shutter, directly in the plane of rotation of the lugs (this was also done with the maximum "lever arm" in dimensions). Thus, the efficiency, rigidity and strength of this most important unit as a whole are increased, in acceptable dimensions and weight.
              The skill (IMHO) of the designer of "extreme technology" consists in competently "catching and neutralizing" the arising loads - not letting them "walk" all over the body of the machine-mechanism, as well as the ability to make reasonable compromises and "cut off everything unnecessary " smile ... With this approach, there is every chance "at the exit" to get an easy and, at the same time, durable, workable sample of "engineering structure".
              I read about A.A. Zaitsev - he fought as a radio operator, but in a reconnaissance group, and not on an airplane, so he pushed around with a "shooter" on foot, in raids on the enemy's rear he found out the real price of each gram of weapons and equipment he carried.
              Mikhail Timofeevich, in published interviews and memoirs, tried to cover as honestly as possible the story of the creation of his own design bureaus, firearms. Attentive and friendly readers know this well. But without intrigue and scandal, there would be no journalism (at least, boulevard) ?! smile
              1. bunta
                bunta 3 October 2018 20: 06
                +2
                The "wedging effect" is also present in the scheme with a turn. In the same AR-15. There is a video on this topic. In general, wherever a rectilinear motion is transmitted by a non-perpendicular platform. Even in the neck of the store when rebuilding from two rows to one. "Physics of the process" :) is the same. AK is, of course, a whole set of wonderful, at first glance, solutions that reveal the beauty of a creative solution upon close examination. G.S.Altshuler, the author of the theory of inventive problem solving, spoke of "beauty" just like that. It's like painting or sculpture, only experts can explain why this or that decision is beautiful, the rest only feel it. Well, and to whom the bear stepped on the ear, they talk about the Schmeissers and their "contributions".
                1. beeper
                  beeper 3 October 2018 20: 16
                  0
                  hi I fully support you and the creative approaches of Heinrich Saulovich Altshuller I adore and appreciate yes !
                  Ours, stoners smile not like, in AK with "wedging effect" they sorted it out beautifully good .
                  Where to find the name of that "video on the topic", can you tell me, Andrey?
                  1. bunta
                    bunta 4 October 2018 07: 34
                    +2
                    Here I have a whole article on this topic.
                    https://topwar.ru/103861-ak-vs-ar-chast-iii.html

                    and there is that movie inside.
                    https://youtu.be/B3-vEiMeYlM

                    the guy puts his finger on the shutter mirror and the rifle hangs in the air on the bolt carrier
                    due to jamming on 1: 50
                    1. beeper
                      beeper 4 October 2018 12: 10
                      0
                      Thank you Andrew! hi I recalled this article of yours, re-read it once more, and re-read the equally interesting comments on it in more detail at my leisure.
                      To be honest, looking at the AR-15 and its clones, I do not have a very high opinion of the military design talents of Eugene Stoner - as for me, he is a pure "athlete" - a blind executor of the "order" and the military exploitation of his "product", seems to have given little thought request . IMHO.
                      1. Tarhan
                        Tarhan 26 October 2018 12: 48
                        -4
                        Yes. Well, the Patriots do not want to recognize reality.

                        The first Korolev rocket is a copy of the V-2 created by captured German engineers. And based on these data Korolev went further. And the Panther tank, its hull and contours were taken from the T-34. One difference - the rear armor plate was given a reverse slope, this increased the volume of the engine compartment, the turret was moved back, and the mechanic’s hatch was placed on top of the hull, removing a weak spot from the windshield.

                        And the first Kalashnikov assault rifle was created by Hugo Schmeiser based on his STG-44. Schmeiser and a group of other German designers were delivered to Izhevsk in 1946. They created AK.

                        Many on this site will be able to come up with something in mechanics, that is, come up with some kind of improvement, like M. Kalashnikov. But to create a firearm from a sheet here on the site is impossible for anyone, even people with higher education.

                        A simple example. At what distance from the chamber, do I need to drill a hole in the barrel under the gas chamber? What should be the diameter of this hole? Of course, you can do it empirically by drilling different holes on thousands of trunks.
                        But in order to calculate everything in science, you need to know -
                        Gas dynamics of the outflow of powder gases, depending on the type of gunpowder.
                        From this expiration it is necessary to calculate the weight of the bolt with the piston.
                        Know the properties of certain metals in the manufacture of reciprocating springs, calculate their length (no more, no less).
                        And that’s not all, it’s on the surface. Can anyone on a site with higher education make such calculations? And how can a person with 7 cool education calculate all this.
                      2. Tarhan
                        Tarhan 26 October 2018 12: 57
                        -3
                        And the outstanding qualities of the machine, in my understanding, come from tolerances. I don’t know whether this was done specifically or it turned out by itself, but Kalashnikov’s tolerances are large. Therefore, soot, soot, dust do not interfere with moving parts. Tolerances on the M-16 are minimal, so after the battle you need to clean the weapons.
                        And the second is the truncated form of the sleeve and the massive bottom of the sleeve. That is, the gases during the shot did not press evenly on the walls of the entire sleeve, and a lot of pressure fell on the bullet and on the bottom of the sleeve.
                      3. beeper
                        beeper 26 October 2018 21: 31
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                        Pan Tarkhan, why should you so openly expose your own incompetence, because right away from your comment it is clear that you do not have proper technical education (even if you have the appropriate "diplomas", it happens, even in Soviet times they spoke eloquently about such- " this one bought his diploma for bacon " yes ). request And, probably, that is why you project your own "complexness" and "limited competence" onto Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov, who does not know why (very susceptible to external suggestions ???) who seems to you to be such a "ignorant", and on the rest of the "many on the site" ?! wink
                        Just to unleash another holivar smile on the topic "Kalashnikov assault rifle" was created (in development of his previous design of a self-loading carbine chambered for the 1943 cartridge!) not an "uneducated" Russian gunsmith Mikhail Kalashnikov, working on it first in NIPSMVO and then in Kovrov, but uneducated, never engineer, German gunsmith Hugo Schmeisser, one of the developers of the German Stg-42 (44), taken out after the war to Izhevsk, but then expelled from there to his home, as a completely useless and useless "specialist" "?!
                        In AK, there are not "large tolerances (large tolerances for machining parts when assembling parts into units can give not only a gap, but also an interference fit, study this issue yourself, if, of course, it is interesting wink ) ", and the GAPES are increased ... the unique qualities of any weapon" come "from the quality of thinking of the gunsmith who invented it, the concept as a whole (" increased gaps "is only a small part of it! yes ) and the balance of certain design and technological solutions, since each such solution necessarily has "pluses" and "minuses" and the task of the creators of any machine and mechanism (and not just weapons) is to find such a total compromise between "pluses" and " cons "so that" at the exit "was a" plus "! wink
                        Calculation of springs in Soviet times was even elementary for students of vocational schools, not to mention students in technical schools, for this it is not necessary to be a specialist with a higher technical education! The properties of structural and spring steels are in any engineering reference book, the most famous is Anuryev’s reference book!
                        When fired, the barrel is an elementary computational task of the resistance "pipe under pressure (by the way, the pressure of liquids and gases in a closed volume is distributed EQUALLY in all directions!)".
                        Even in the instruction on the basics of shooting, but what is there, in the school textbook of the NVP, there is a typical diagram of the pressure of powder gases (and for different gunpowders it looks like that, only the pressure values ​​change) in the barrel — it was known long before the creation of AK without even knowing anything more about internal ballistics, it’s easy to determine the location of the gas outlet side hole (or gas outlet mounted on the muzzle of the barrel, and this is possible — study the history and material of handguns is the basis, Fedorov, Blagonravov, Markevich , Blum is domestic classics, there is always a web-browse, read, you will find answers to all your questions today, in addition to many books and articles of lesser known, but no less competent authors, for example, on the calculation and manufacture of small arms barrels, internal and external ballistics, the calculation of automation, a correctly formulated request in a search engine and voila, the book in front of you is not something that was wounded earlier! Mikhail Timofeevich, who was being treated at the hospital for a severe front wound, was fabulously lucky with the technical library of the evacuated institute, which contained books by Fedorov and Blagonravov on the basics and material of the weapon, he read a lot of literature on his chosen engineering specialty and constantly engaged in self-education, without stopping until the very end of your life!).
                        The diameter of the gas outlet is the same "gas flow through the hole", pure gas dynamics! smile
                        "The movement of a body with acceleration (the same" bolt carrier with a bolt and a piston ")" - this is elementary physics, which was studied earlier in high school (but now it is no longer ?!)! Etc...
                        A typical "problem" of all "near-technical" amateurs and "educators" is a "fetishization" of certain sacred "accurate calculations", without which, in their opinion, nothing can be done ?! smile
  3. lucul
    lucul 2 October 2018 16: 39
    +8
    Quote: Chichikov
    As an "uneducated" Kalashnikov was able to create the perfect machine

    Just like an uneducated Lefthander shoeed a flea, and the peasant sons smashed the educated general of the Wehrmacht and flew into space!

    No no no.
    Speaking about the "uneducated" Kalashnikov, for some reason everyone forgets (strange - isn't it?) That Hugo Schmeiser also had no technical education.
    Instead of a thousand words
    1. Corn
      Corn 3 October 2018 02: 51
      -2
      AKM, as in the photo, appeared only in the mid-50s, and the whole Izhmash was already working on its "finishing", and before that it was quite ...
      1. lucul
        lucul 3 October 2018 11: 36
        +4
        and before that it’s quite ...

        AK-46 was in the series? No, his state commission rejected the tests. Why then post a non-serial photo? To somehow support the myth of copying?
        And we listened to such myths of the 70-90s hanging our ears. Another hutspa - it turned out to be a copy of M16, not the AK-47))
  4. Sadko88
    Sadko88 2 October 2018 17: 03
    +3
    Sometimes a complete secondary education makes it difficult to think not like everyone else ... smile
  5. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 2 October 2018 17: 58
    +2
    Why discuss the legend and pride of our country? Who and for what purpose will put this up for discussion? Either there was no Ice battle, then the Kulikovo battle was extinct. Legends and myths are always there. Off adversary from our history.
  6. beeper
    beeper 2 October 2018 19: 57
    +3
    It is strange that no one asks how an uneducated Hugo Schmeisser can claim to create a "perfect automaton" ?! smile
    Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov excelled in the inventive field even in the prewar years of service in the Red Army — his counter for tank engine life and the counter for the number of tank gun shots were recognized as the best and were recommended for implementation by the command of the Kiev Special Military District (KOVO) ...
    After being seriously wounded in a tank battle, Mikhail Timofeevich was treated in a hospital, the building of which also contained the technical library of the evacuated aviation institute. Among these books were found the fundamental works of prominent Soviet gunsmiths, V.G. Fedorov and A.A. Blagonravov, on the design, design and manufacture of small arms, which the recovering tanker carefully studied while designing his debut submachine gun with a spiral-rotational shutter slowdown ....
    While working on the creation of the PP, the young designer-gunsmith was engaged in self-education a lot, and the benevolent recommendation of the academician of artillery sciences Anatoly Arkadievich Blagonravov and the creative service at the Research Range of the Shooting and Mortar Armaments (NIPSMVO), a thorough study of the rich collection of experimental and serial domestic collected there small arms, served as M.T. Kalashnikov with a pass to the world of creators of Soviet small arms ... by the way, at the training ground, he and A.I. Sudaev worked on their weapons in the same working room, and Alexei Ivanovich generously shared his knowledge and experience with Mikhail Timofeevich, which also contributed significantly to the professional growth of the young gunsmith, which he himself acknowledged in his memoirs.
    As the Designer said, on his desk he always kept books on locksmith and machine tool processing of materials, heat treatment and casting, metal forming, the theory of mechanisms and machine parts, strength materials, all kinds of reference books that he constantly used in his work, i.e. Mikhail Timofeevich was engaged in self-education all his life (which cannot be said about many "graduated engineers"! smile ) and deeply mistaken (or biased lie) those who are still persistently "hinting" at the alleged "borrowing by an uneducated young redneck of his design of an automaton from an educated elderly German"!
  7. Sokol
    Sokol 2 October 2018 21: 35
    +3
    Anyone who has ever been to the Design Bureau knows how many designers are involved in creating the sample. How many technologists put it on the conveyor. How many improvements and changes are made at the same time, each of which is necessarily tested. Testers also make improvements that are made in the design documentation and put on the conveyor.
    Do you really think that this can crank one person?
    1. beeper
      beeper 3 October 2018 00: 31
      +1
      Quote: Sokol
      Anyone who has ever been to the Design Bureau knows how many designers are involved in creating the sample. How many technologists put it on the conveyor. How many improvements and changes are made at the same time, each of which is necessarily tested. Testers also make improvements that are made to the design documentation and put on the conveyor.
      Do you really think that this can crank one person?

      hi So this whole production hustle and bustle occurs when such a sample concept is accepted for production in a series smile !
      And so, any, more or less adequate, factory designer or technologist knows who in the design bureau is worth what ("according to the Hamburg score" winked ) and what is the real contribution of each specific specialist to the common business of mastering and design and technological support for the production of this product wink
      And one person is able to put forward the main idea, which will then become overgrown with details. Small arms, at their core, albeit in their "raw form", may well be designed by one person, but this has often happened and still happens - we will not recall the classics: Browning, Maxim, ... let's better remember the domestic predecessor of AK (which inherited the Sudayevsky store and Sudayev's concept of a "suspended shutter"), the automatic Sudaev AS-44 - did not become the only creator (Alexey Ivanovich died prematurely) and this sample, the recognized leader of tests, remained only an experienced specimen, although it could, with appropriate refinement ("how many designers and technologists at KB "?), go into series. winked
      1. bunta
        bunta 3 October 2018 08: 23
        +3
        Quote: pishchak
        Automatic Sudaeva AC-44

        with the bias of the shutter will definitely lose locking by turning. This is an empirically derived truth. Unfortunately, it is difficult to calculate it. Maybe somewhere in IzhSTU or in Tula there are mathematical proofs in secret doctoral theses. But somewhere, Kalashnikov said that in the locking system with a bias, the shutter is released and the slide frame is stretched. This was evident to him even in Shchurov, when he began work on his carbine and studied Garand МХNUMX. By this time, three rifles were tested, as a result of which Garand furnished all.
  8. NordUral
    NordUral 2 October 2018 23: 55
    +2
    Genius education is sometimes simply harmful. He has everything from birth. And the details - so there are narrow specialists. But the main idea and the will to implement it.
    1. beeper
      beeper 3 October 2018 00: 38
      0
      Quote: NordUral
      Genius education is sometimes simply harmful. He has everything from birth. And the details - so there are narrow specialists. But the main idea and the will to implement it.

      hi I fully support your idea that the main thing is the idea and the will to implement it, dear NordUral!
  9. Note 2
    Note 2 3 October 2018 02: 03
    +1
    The first AK sample was developed at a training ground where Kalashnikov served under the command of Colonel Lyuty, but he didn’t pass the competition in 1944, and after the war in 46 Kalashnikov went to Izhevsk where he was reinforced by an experienced designer with whom he developed the AK that entered service Soviet army in '49 and which is now fashionable to call the AK-47.
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 4 October 2018 10: 22
      0
      Quote: Prim2
      under the command of Colonel Lyuty

      Plyusanul, but Lyuty in my captain was when Kalashnikov presented his machine gun.
  10. Corn
    Corn 3 October 2018 02: 56
    +2
    The 21st century in the yard, why all these manipulations, if anyone can disassemble, assemble, twist and see how it works?

  11. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 3 October 2018 07: 24
    0
    It is a pity that Alexander Alekseevich Zaitsev did not write his book. His name was simply wiped out.
  12. forester
    forester 3 October 2018 10: 12
    +1
    However, it is necessary to introduce censorship in the media - they want to take away the victory from us, now they’ve taken for Kalashnikov, if that’s the case then the first flight into space will begin to challenge our man - they will begin to claim that it’s not Yu Gagarin, but some kind of mccain was the first astronaut
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  14. Dr. Bermental
    Dr. Bermental 3 October 2018 22: 18
    -1
    What did the Hugo Schmaisser hereditary gunsmith do all this time in Izhevsk? walked all the time))
  15. Catfish
    Catfish 4 October 2018 01: 34
    0
    Quote: lucul
    Another hutspa - it turned out to be a copy of M16, not the AK-47))


    "M-16 turned out to be a copy." What was he a copy of? Kalashnikov seems to have been sorted out - not a copy. Now a copy of M-checkersteen. A copy of what? Again, the "unfortunate" Hugo is to blame, did he manage to work in the States? Yo-raspberry, and what will they not write here! laughing
    1. bunta
      bunta 4 October 2018 07: 37
      +2
      Not a copy, but a prototype for a combination of design features:
      https://topwar.ru/103412-ak-vs-ar-chast-i.html
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 4 October 2018 10: 12
        +1
        It should be remembered that far from the first version of the machine turned out AK. Kalashnikov himself admitted that very little remained of the first prototype in the combat machine.
  16. Vard
    Vard 4 October 2018 10: 04
    0
    This phenomenon is by the way widespread ... it has long been noticed that for example graduates of literary institutes do not write books that they read ...
  17. EvilLion
    EvilLion 4 October 2018 13: 13
    +1
    EMNIP Kalashnikov even before the War came up with a shot counter for tank guns. The man was interested in mechanics, and he did it.
  18. Fox
    Fox 7 October 2018 01: 49
    -1
    Not disputing the leading role of Kalashnikov, all the same AK is a product of collective creativity, plus a lot of seamless solutions, even from competitors in the competition. Schmeisser, by the way, also participated: it was he who organized the production of AK in Izhevsk on equipment exported from Germany, and, at least, introduced the changes necessary for mass production.
    1. Ponchik78
      Ponchik78 13 October 2018 13: 47
      -1
      Do not write nonsense. What Schmeisser did in Izhevsk is reflected in sufficient detail in archival documents. He was not even close to organizing the production of AK.
      1. Fox
        Fox 13 October 2018 18: 27
        0
        Yeah, and the production of AK Kalashnikov personally adjusted. On German equipment, which he himself mounted with a sledgehammer and a file: it’s written in the archives! laughing
        Have you heard about secrecy? This is when the plant makes rockets, and in the archives it says that he made pans!
        So that the enemies do not guess! wink
  19. Ural-4320
    Ural-4320 7 October 2018 19: 08
    +1
    Quote: Corn
    AKM, as in the photo, appeared only in the mid-50s, and the whole Izhmash was already working on its "finishing", and before that it was quite ...

    Yes, even a copy of the StG-44. The photo shows that the division into details is completely different. This is normal work to eliminate the shortcomings of the existing sample, and at the same time to test both technical solutions and material processing applied. And it is highly likely that these solutions did not provide a reserve for modernization, because the AK-47 is significantly different from this option. Remember how much work was spent on solving the problem of rupture of the sleeve and the implementation of its stragging.
  20. tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 October 2018 19: 23
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    Before the war, Kalashnikov had two inventions in the field of tanks, for one of which the hour meter for the BT-5 tank was awarded a watch - by the People’s Commissar of Defense. Talent is talent.
  21. Vladycat
    Vladycat 11 October 2018 07: 27
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    Many engineering developments were made by people without a specialized education. I don’t want to say bad things about education, but it drives you into clearly established frameworks from which it is hard to get out. So it turns out that educated designers are more often involved in fine-tuning someone's invention.
  22. anakost
    anakost 20 October 2018 11: 42
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    One would like to paraphrase why "educated specialists" cannot do this. From my own experience, I see that education has lost much in quality, it is difficult to compare a university graduate now and a technical school 20 years ago. Then they let out ready-made specialists, now a lottery. A very broad topic, I will not dare to continue ...
    PS Exaggerated of course, who then studied only for crusts, can successfully do this now.
  23. Vladimir_R
    Vladimir_R 25 October 2018 02: 33
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    I think that the discussion should generally start with a different question. Namely. How could one person create such a weapon? The word "one" is fundamental and fundamental here.
    The answer to this question is simple. This is not possible in principle. And then it’s worth looking for the names and surnames of those who participated in the development, and to what extent exactly, this wonderful and terrible product.
  24. Yodzakura
    Yodzakura 26 October 2018 15: 52
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    The nugget was Kalashnikov