Notes of the Colorado Cockroach. Boats and fat: what's the catch?

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Greetings to you, my dear readers and friends! I thought for a long time whether to answer or not to answer some questions asked in the comments to the last article. You know that today politicians resemble scorpions in zinc from under cartridges. Pre-election bickering and eating each other.





Therefore, I understand perfectly well that among the readers there will definitely be a "politically literate type" who will accuse me of supporting any of the political foam that today rules the ball in Ukraine. It is very important for someone to tell about my engagement and bias. And in parallel, and uncleanliness.

It is important because for some of the Ukrainians, including in Russia, the notes are some part of the information flow from their homeland. Yes, information through my perception, but different. Good, bad, incomprehensible, but different. Not from the TV ...

And as a matter of fact, I don’t want to take away a piece of fat from Kiselev, but to bring information to the consumer before Kiselev did. And thus save a part of the gray matter, so that it does not pass into the brown one. Here it is.

Let me quote a couple of readers' statements about my notes (copyright spelling and punctuation preserved):

"dear cockroach, from the past narration, I realized that:
you are for the independence of Ukraine, consider yourself ukrantsem (by nationality).
so I have a question for you:
Why do you write about your country to citizens of another country? It is very strange...".

"In decent states, people scold the country's shortcomings among themselves and never in the presence of foreigners."


I answer point by point. Yes, I am for the independence of Ukraine. I believed and believe that we deserve to live on this planet. Exactly the same as other Slavic peoples. But the country of Ukraine and the state of Ukraine, in the form that it (the state) is acquiring today, are different concepts. The state that is being built today is deeply disgusting to me.

You are very cleverly made vvtochku about nationality. With a hint, as I understand it, on my "Russianness". Alas for you, but people like me are in Ukraine the majority. Even in Western Ukraine. You just forget your country. You have Russian more than 150 nationalities. We have less, but also enough.

Now about my upbringing. I mean the second quote. Indecent act, putting the problems in their own country for all to see?

Maybe you're right. We must silently demolish all experiments on ourselves and mumble while sitting in our own kitchen. Need to endure! Someday the rapist will either get tired or become impotent. Then we'll live. Or he will go to the neighbor. The neighbor still thinks that this will not happen to him. Nobody told him what was going on in the next apartment. Nobody told him that I was thinking the same way ... So, is it?

Or the second option - the national hero? Type deeply my dear Olesya Elderberry? It is beautiful to go out in front of a crowd of Pithecanthropes and die courageously in the hope that with your death you will raise the people to fight? We have many journalists, much more talented than the Cockroach, are already sitting or lying. Do you remember them? When was the last time they talked about Elderberry?

Once in the army, my first commander instilled in me the idea of ​​proper upbringing:

"Remember once and for all. I don’t need dead heroes. Nobody will know about your heroism. It’s easy to die. A grenade is in your hand and under a tank. Do you want it? Then go to the infantry. The war is easier. Or lucky.

And with me you will accomplish the task that you have been given, get away from the persecution, return to the location and get your legitimate "sticking." One of your dead fighter crosses all your previous commander achievements. And one victory - all your "shoals" here. Only in this way and nothing else. ".


Everything. Relationships cockroach today no longer touch. Although you need to answer a friend.

Eugene (Li 17), I have a problem with the book. It is clear that in Ukraine such a publication will not work. At least in the foreseeable future (alas). Sometimes, however, I have thoughts about this. After reading the comments of readers who have recently joined our community. There will be a day - there will be food. But there are no plans yet ...

We had a week ... As usual, interesting. I will begin, perhaps, with the famous "And for what?" Insulting, to be honest, a joke. But right!

By the way, I was recently at a concert. Symphony Orchestra. Miracle, not music. But I remember the concert by one dialogue from behind. The host of the concert: "Niccolo Paganini. Caprice №24". A voice from behind: “They have survived. They even number their whims ...” In a similar way, some perceive the following news.

I talked about activists' actions many times. They thundered, thrashed, killed ... They even fell under trial. But in fact were not punishable. In the end, it is the time of Hammurabi. So far, only in Odessa. It was there that the activist was shot. But, the first step is the hardest.

Moreover, there are "great deeds" to seize the activists of temples and monasteries by activists. And the whole gang is planned as the most radical part of the invaders. And here ... In short, the activists struck a little. It turns out that they can not only be beaten, but also killed ...

Apparently, scared. In Odessa, in Lviv, in Kharkov, in Ternopil, in Kiev ... They remembered about the law. Rallies under the walls of the Presidential Administration demanding the creation of a temporary investigation commission. Yes, and discuss the actions of opponents of activists at the National Security and Defense Council! The gut of the activists was thin.

But the most interesting thing in the name of the action. "Silence"! Sorry, but the rally can only be compared with a gay parade. The homosexuals picket the building where homosexuals sit ... It seems the same, but they are called differently. You will not reproach?

Why a temporary commission? If you follow historical analogues, the next step should be the creation of the Cheka! But who should I appoint Dzerzhinsky? And then after all, and the "troika" in line. Strange, right? Fight against communism and build communism at the same time. We are so ... Strange ...

"Petro Poroshenko is not satisfied with the general criminal situation in the country, and demands that this issue be considered at a coordination meeting on combating crime," and awaits a corresponding report. "



Communicating with citizens of various states, I understand that most of you, dear readers, have a not quite correct picture of future elections. Most readers measure the correctness of the elections as those that are held in their states. Pre-election struggle, a sea of ​​slop on each other's heads, promises of a better life, rounds of voters' apartments and so on ...

You know, once in our youth, we sat at the table and tasted the vodka. Well, it so happened that the vodka is still there, but for what to drink, we can not think. Here is such a paradoxical situation. And then one of us, in despair, said: "And then let's stop drinking!" "Wonderful toast!" - We supported and continued the test. I remembered this. In short, read on.

We are preparing in a different way. We are at the level of the Criminal Code of Ukraine will ban campaigning. We will adopt such laws that can be perfectly applied to combat dissent. For example, your opinion coincides with the opinion of the Kremlin - you are a separatist. And, according to the adopted law, be subject to conviction under a criminal article. Do you think I exaggerate? Not. On the contrary, "pouring oils" ...

There is one fact not yet seen by the media. In the ranks of the Ukrainian army in the autumn campaign will call almost 18 thousands of people. 9 010 recruits will go to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, 900 6 500 will be sent to the State Transport Special Service, 1 550 to the National Guard, XNUMX XNUMX to the National Guard Service. The rest, of course, in the "other units." In addition, by decree of the Hydrant, military conscription was extended until the end of December.



Just for comparison. Last year, the autumn call was just 10 500 people. In order to immediately dismiss the official point of view, which will be followed by the Russian media, the option with the attack in the Donbas does not pass. The number of draftees in the Armed Forces has not increased. This means that the number of conscripts in the units that are engaged in "internal affairs" has increased.

The authorities really fear atoshnikov veterans. A lot of them. Many "are not friends with the head," but they are friends with gorilka. Weapons we have today no less than in the postwar years of the last century.

The main defenders of power in this scenario are the National Guard. But there are already problems. The same veterans. There is no hope for them in the Hydrant. Here they will be replaced in the most dangerous places for the authorities by boys. It is these recruits who will be put to the polls in the front ranks of the defenders of power. They will "disperse the new Maidan." Here is a "crap hand" for the coming months. By the way, this was indirectly confirmed in the General Staff of the APU 11 of September:

"The decree of President Petro Poroshenko on the extension of the autumn recruitment to the army is due to an increase in the number of conscripts for recruiting the National Guard and the State Border Service."

That's about. But, you see, there are days in the life of every person when he feels like an eagle, a hawk, a dove, finally. Man flies! And then, after some time, literally in an instant, the person realizes that he has become a monument. One moment and one spot on the shoulder (this is still a good "monument" stopped).

So in the increase in the number of recruits there is also a more "close to the ground" explanation. I think that I can be the first to voice. Our police, modeled on the "Police Academy" works in the same way as in the film. Only the film ends in the middle of the series. So, we will not wait for the good end.

"In Ukraine, since the beginning of this year, 17 people have died as a result of crimes committed with the use of grenades, grenade launchers and explosives."

"As of September 25, most of all crimes involving grenades, grenade launchers and explosives were committed in Dnepropetrovsk - 27 (of which 7 was revealed), Donetsk - 23 (13) and Kiev regions - 18 (4), and also in Kiev - 18 ( 7).
As a result of these crimes, 17 people died and 119 people were injured. "


But you know what is most interesting?

“Most of these crimes on the territory of Ukraine, law enforcement officers qualified according to Art. 296 (hooliganism), Art. 115 (premeditated murder), Art. 194 (intentional destruction of or damage to property), Art. 263 (illegal handling of weapons) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine”.

Yes, when I was a boy, it was considered hooliganism to fill the face with a neighbor or pierce the wheels of a Zhiguli. And now the pomegranate. Even it became interesting, and the glass is broken now, how do they qualify? Or more than that, and what is considered malicious malignancy? The use of "Bumblebee" or picking the neighbor "Chevrolet" CORD?



The next part of my notes announce the following memories. Matter of the past. So you can. Selpo. I just came from a medical assistant where I got a shot, sorry, in the ass. It is necessary to thank the paramedic for help. "Girl (aunt kilograms on 90), you do not have a box of chocolates. I want to give your nurse a per shot." The answer was deadly. "Do you want to thank or revenge?"

Many people ask me about the hype with the American boats. Yes, we do not have any excitement. We are well aware that Ukraine today operates according to the business scheme of the beginning of the 90-s. Remember: "I am changing a car of raspberry jam to two cars of pineapple biscuits." Met Signed a contract. And they went to look. One car of jam, the other two car of biscuits.

Boats are old. They have no engines. Need to repair. And it is worth the pleasure 10 million. Yes, and to our shores by self-propelled boats do not sail. They need to be transported. This is also not a hundred hryvnia worth. Well ... 2019 comes. Year of the biggest percent!



In short, there is no money and never will be. The boats were handed to us back in 2016, if I'm not mistaken. Simultaneously with the Georgians. Two years stood at the pier and a dozen more stand. There's a whole fleet in the Crimea. Or already drowned heroically, who in the know?

But, as always, we think there are options. Read quotes from the Hydrant speech in Baltimore:

"Ukraine is NATO’s de facto eastern flank, and this gesture of support has strengthened defense cooperation between our countries."

"Russia occupied the Crimea and continues the conflict in the Donbas and is trying to change the borders using force. Russian aggression is not a threat only for Ukraine. It is a threat for the whole region, Europe, the United States of America and the stability of the entire world order."


Mokritsa knows him. And maybe a ride again? The world today is crazy. And two crazy people will find a common language faster than a crazy and healthy one! But for the Americans I have a serious question. Hey, Yankees, did you want to thank us with this gift or revenge for something?

Speaking of navy. I read from you hat-writing articles about the Ukrainian fleet in Azov. It’s strange to me. Is there really an opinion that boats and former fishing scows will fight with your boats? There are no fools. And there is an answer! Deputy Chief of Staff of the Ukrainian Navy Andriy Ryzhenko:

"The military base of the Naval Forces of Ukraine on the Azov Sea, which is planned to be created by the end of the year in Berdyansk, will be among the priority areas of activity to neutralize the Russian mine threat."

"The main objective of the base will be to protect the ports of the Azov Sea and ensure the safety of navigation, which provides for mine action. This is a priority direction for the development of naval forces."


Knowing our politicians and the military, I understand perfectly well that the Navy will be engaged in basically the completely opposite thing. We continue to mine our own 12-mile zone, and breaks the mines with a storm ... Imagine a "merchant" hit a mine? Yes, and beyond the 12 miles from the coast? Russia will not wash off the crap ... And that should have been done!

Notes of the Colorado Cockroach. Boats and fat: what's the catch?


I really want to see the shipowner, who will send his ship to our Azov ports. With such a risk. So, are we blocking ports ourselves? Probably so. The logic of the modern Ukrainian government. Maemo sho Maemo.

Yes, I almost forgot. We finally showed how the hand of Moscow looks like! Now, every Ukrainian can come to Kiev, come to Bessarabska Square, where Taras Shevchenko Boulevard begins and personally consider this hand.



Well, I'll tell you, and you have a hand ... Blue, like a drowned man. Clumsy. It is not surprising that we are afraid of her. The main thing stands where, before the Maidan, before the 2013, Lenin stood. Although, I remembered here one case, told by someone from my friends. Morning. Son runs out of the bedroom. "Mom, I have a monster under my blanket!" "What yesterday from the club led, this is what it is." We put this hand. Not you.

True, and we can not boast of courage. Well, where are we to the Croatian figs in the fountain (or blew)? Or to the monument to the middle finger (famous **** you) in Milan. It is terrible to write, but we have where to strive. So many projects of monuments in my head arise when you read the news in our media ...

And you better ride to Kharkov. There, at the main entrance of the Central Market, you will now come across a seed seller. In a sense, with a monument. Next to the vendor is a carefree cat, two bags of seeds and a rat. We return to the origins. With what the market began, to that we go now. Only with the rats then fought and never near the merchants they were not.



For me, so wrong this sculpture. This should be a grandmother of solid age. Be sure to wear a kerchief tied below the chin. And next to the ground is a small bag with seeds and two glasses. Big and smaller. For the dime and for the penny. Be sure to newspaper bags, pressed with a stone to the ground, so that the wind does not blow. And sparrows around. Beauty...

Just want to, as in the summer heat, something open. Champagne or cognac.

By the way, I thus explain to you why the photos in the article are more related to agriculture. Harvest with us this year, God forbid everyone. Buriak can dump the bull, if between the eyes to get. The peasantry does not unbend on the gardens and fields. Nature itself helps people to survive. Well, the industriousness of the villagers, too.









It seems to be all good. But, as always. Europeans "CEE" throat overlap quotas. We have complied with these duty-free quotas for a long time.

"Ukrainian manufacturers as of September 21 used 100% of the volume of tariff quotas for duty-free exports to the European Union for a number of goods."

Ukrainian exporters 100% filled the tariff quotas for Ukrainian honey, malt and wheat gluten, processed tomatoes, grape and apple juice, wheat, corn, butter. In addition, the additional trade preferences for corn, soft wheat, honey, and processed tomatoes obtained in 2017 were also fully utilized.


The deputy head of the Ministry of Agrarian Policy Olga Trofimtseva:

"For more than 85% used volumes of tariff quotas for starch and for 99,4% for processed starch, poultry meat - for 75%, eggs and albumin - 53,7%, garlic - 61,2%." "The export quotas for sugar syrups - 2000 tons, mushrooms - 500 tons, and processed products from butter - 250 tons" have not been used yet, and others.

No, food is always needed. And all. Moreover, we are gradually reaching a new level of production. Organic products. Fertilizer is using less and less. And we can sell this very food. The truth is not to the west, but to the east and south. The Chinese and Arabs. So can European integration be replaced by Chinese integration or Arab integration? But in general, why was it changed?

Or is integration a sexual orientation similar? Only yours and yours?

In general, products - it is harmful. Especially harmful "white death"! I remembered this not to the fact that I will continue to talk. This Cockroach from the kitchen thought threw a stupid question. "Do you like, white death in tea two spoons or one?". Well ... woman. Salt is white death. Sugar - white death. Stupidity. The white death is a polar bear. And no one will convince me of this!

And now about peremog peremog all peremog! We solved the problem of our national product - fat! No more problems with the national product in Ukraine! Remember, probably, how we were forced to buy lard from everyone? Especially Polish pig breeders rejoiced. Well, I will not "pause".

"The Sumy National Agrarian University developed an analogue of fat from gelatin and vegetable oil. The new product, as its creators claim, does not differ in taste from the traditional one, but is more useful and suitable for vegetarians."

"Scientists say that even gourmets could not feel the difference between lard and fat substitute. In addition, artificial fat can be made in any form and for every taste: regular salty, with pepper, spiced up, sour, sweet, different fat content."




Right now I will finish the notes and make the whole family sing "Schenevmerlu". This is a victory. Now pigs with their plague are not needed. Yes, and salt-smoke do not need anything. Immediately made and eat.

But we must contact the Germans in an amicable way. In the middle of the last century they were able to sculpt all kinds of ersatzes from coal. In our country, coal is better than oil, so, so that it comes out cheaper, not from bones and algae, but from sawdust and coal we will drive out gelatin!

But most importantly, another dream of Ukrainians will soon come true. Remember the process of buying lard in the store? Choice, cashier and other things we recline. But, the seller Shmat fat wraps the film so that the dirt does not stick, while you carry home fat. And at home you unwind this cellophane, unwind, unwind ... And the fat is here.

So, Sumy Agrarian University today is working on a biofilm that will replace cellophane! Imagine? There will not be this "unwind, unwind, unwind"! Immediately took a knife and cut off a bigger piece. And right with a biofilm, garlic and black bread ... It's a pity, the farmers couldn’t invent a self-tapping screw. But fat "samoskok in the mouth" can be! And you say ...

For a good mood I will tell you a joke about you. In a sense, about the symbol of Russia. Morning. River bank. Tourists in the tent eyes tear. Suddenly, a tent canopy opens, a huge bear snout appears: "Guys, do you have anything from a bear disease?"

Okay. It is necessary to finish writing and go to sleep. That is because he made himself an obstacle. Until you write, in bed, no, no. Although the smell from the kitchen distracts. Some time. Well, you, as always, have a good week. Problem solving Healthy optimism and optimistic health.

Yes, I will reveal the secret of the title. It's simple: that artificial lard, that "crumpled" American boats - all of this is one of the berry fields. Tuff, in short.

Will live!
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  1. +7
    2 October 2018 07: 03
    Healthy optimism and optimistic health.
    ... Hmm .. who lives where .. who is in Wonderland, who is through the looking glass .. the choice .. Not much off topic .. The USSR was falling apart (and not only) according to the principle: "You eat our bread." We cannot unite according to the same principle: "You will eat our bread." Therefore, it turns out:
    I believed and still believe that we are worthy of living on this planet. Exactly the same as other Slavic peoples.
    1. +4
      2 October 2018 15: 07
      I agree. Independent Ukraine, it sounds proudly! It just sounds .. and that's it. When it was "independent", only the lazy did not use it for its intended purpose; with her hands he destroyed the Russians. Be proud, Cockroach Okolokoloradsky, you are Ukrainian and this is your way. Now Russia also does not have full sovereignty, but at least it determines for itself with whom to cooperate and with whom not. Ukraine has never had and never will have such a choice. I will not prove it, just take and read stories about it, at least from English-language sources. Only 4-5 countries have full sovereignty: SGA, Great Britain, North Korea (scary to think), China .... and in my opinion that's all.
  2. +3
    2 October 2018 07: 24
    Well, what can I say on this matter ... until in the locality where the redhead lives, the rule of priority is the population’s misfortunes, only you yourself are to blame - you will not see good luck ..
    1. +1
      3 October 2018 19: 54
      Quote: Shiva83483
      while in the area where the redhead lives

      Hmm, about the redhead, the native penates were immediately remembered. Our nano-happiness.
      1. 0
        3 October 2018 22: 51
        Chur, chur me ... well him
  3. +3
    2 October 2018 08: 05
    The photo of fat at the end of the article simply killed. I immediately wanted to switch from breakfast to dinner. wassat here he is a vivid example of watered technology!
  4. +8
    2 October 2018 08: 35
    Instead of Lenin, the blue paw on the pedestal in the very center of the square is a masterpiece! fool
    And this is not the Kremlin’s hand at all, but the symbol of the Eurozarobitan laughing


    [media=https://sun6-1.userapi.com/c635104/v635104665/2db44/8zcwCfVbnUs.jpg]

    But it would be more correct to put here such a monument to the Euroassociation.
    [media=https://sun6-1.userapi.com/c635104/v635104665/2db44/8zcwCfVbnUs.jpg]
  5. +1
    2 October 2018 09: 48
    And why are they taking pictures of self-propelled grain on Soviet KamAZ trucks, and not on KraZah? Separatism, as there is separatism wassat
  6. +1
    2 October 2018 09: 48
    The world has gone crazy today.
    This is treated only by bloodletting.
    1. +1
      2 October 2018 10: 44
      This is not treated at all, from the word at all! The neighbors who are succumbing to their heads are a real threat to all of us. But instead of real isolation measures and the strictest quarantine, we are bogged down with mantras about the fraternal people and about Russian-speaking former compatriots.
  7. +1
    2 October 2018 11: 00
    Continue to write, respected Cockroach Okoloradsky. Your information about events in / in Ukraine is truer than Bandera and Vlasov media.
  8. +1
    2 October 2018 14: 16
    Well done Pan Tarkan, and even as our agent cited statistics confirming preparations for the war. I can add that yesterday there was a fuss at UkrTV regarding the adoption of the law on the control of mob, i.e. if someone does not indulge in any public place, then a fine! That week, the girl was hit by a journalist from the news van. The issue of the Ukrainian format was devoted to this topic, where everyone vowed to figure it out. Yeah, sorted it out! Yesterday, the answer of the press secretary of the Ministry of Internal Affairs was announced on the air - the channel is conducting anti-government activities, so that’s what it needs! By the way, Yarosh also watched this channel, he spoke quite essentially everything! So the right-winged pan Tarkan is right, all of our neighbors is synthetically! By the way, I am changing the gas boiler, the shops are full of Zhytomyr, and very expensive! What is it like? Gentlemen from the SBU, are you in share?
  9. +1
    2 October 2018 14: 25
    Simplify you, my friend! It’s only we for them not brothers. You can divide the population of Ukraine into
    As a matter of fact, in all its long history, Russia only once succumbed to provocation - 08.08.2008 (which was extremely surprised both in Georgia and in the world). [/ Quote]

    as a person directly involved in these events .... First, this was known long before. Second, some of our people 's servants were also "surprised" by this. Thirdly, what I saw there caused a great desire to plow many on both sides! As General Ivashov once said - and there was no order before, not after that.? Indeed, in this case, it was necessary to deal with many, but they do not want this! I quote within the meaning, more of this was not shown on TV!
  10. +1
    2 October 2018 19: 16
    Oh, yes, we have a cockroach pan separ and nezalezhnik! It is just perfect. And let's, shanovnyy pan, explain to the Ukrainians why the non-fallow lands are a kind of Muscovite empire. I believe that the only need is the ability of Ukrainian panams to peel the local without looking at Moscow. To meat, to bones and beyond. It is very interesting to hear your answer to the question. I look forward to seeing him in the following notes.
  11. +1
    2 October 2018 20: 24
    Quote: asp373
    Oh, yes, we have a cockroach pan separ and nezalezhnik! It is just perfect. And let's, shanovnyy pan, explain to the Ukrainians why the non-fallow lands are a kind of Muscovite empire. I believe that the only need is the ability of Ukrainian panams to peel the local without looking at Moscow. To meat, to bones and beyond. It is very interesting to hear your answer to the question. I look forward to seeing him in the following notes.

    I'll answer. Pan Tarkan is just an intelligent and honest person who found himself in a terrible mess and tries to tell with pain about the realities of today's Ukraine. He is not a pan in the ruling camarilla and has nothing to do with them, although in fact he seems to have weight and acquaintances (I myself have colleagues in power, I was smart enough not to repeat their path!). He writes intelligently and with humor specifically about his homeland, and more than that, it is for us that he teaches a lesson that we need to look at ourselves. And you don't read well, he just told how the Ukrainians relate to the authorities. Moreover, he is in a situation where you can become a "dead hero" (isn’t this my commander?), And believe me, figure it out and get rid of ... So let's not pretend to be experts on the issue here, all the more I repeat, in some areas our business is no better, and it's not the GDP (it just works), but in us, we are always looking for who is to blame, even dumping garbage near our gate or balcony!
    1. 0
      3 October 2018 08: 11
      I always bring my garbage to the bin, even from the subway, where, as you know, there are no trash. So no generalizations are needed. It’s good that you stood up for the cockroach, but I would like to hear his answer. I have such a hobby as collecting answers to it from the independents and those who are not living.
      1. 0
        3 October 2018 15: 33
        You have a "hobby" to be noted in smart articles, since the author under the nickname "cockroach" has long laid out everything and how. More than this, the expression separatist and independent is generally rubbish from the side of our (well, or mine, that's for sure) Ukrainian compatriots ... Well, it's very good that you take out the trash ... and you don't need to litter here either!
    2. 0
      5 October 2018 09: 14
      Quote: lithium17
      I will answer.

      and who authorized you?
      1. 0
        5 October 2018 10: 32
        Your rudeness and bad manners towards my respected author!
        1. 0
          5 October 2018 16: 08
          Quote: lithium17
          Your rudeness and bad manners

          I ask you to justify these statements, where was the rudeness? where is bad manners (inability to behave appropriately in society)?
          I only express my point of view on the position and actions of the author ...
          and it reminds me of a heavy smoker who complains about lung cancer.
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  12. 0
    3 October 2018 20: 46
    As always caustic, funny .... and really Ukrainian belay I confirm as an eyewitness angry
  13. +3
    3 October 2018 22: 04
    "I answer point by point. Yes, I am for the independence of Ukraine."

    I am also for the independence of Ukraine. 25 years have shown well what you ended up with with your independence and this is a natural result. They ravaged and sold off the Soviet legacy and now called the bandits into their house and are already ready for a war with Russia, or rather are already "at war". Why am I for the independence of Ukraine, so that Russia once again does not strain at its own expense, correcting what you stole and namuydanili there. The time will come when your West American masters will take your land for debts and give you a kick, and Russia will simply buy these lands from "partners", though it is more expensive, but without muidanschikov. Laugh to the curds, as they say)))
  14. 0
    4 October 2018 00: 40
    As always, the discussion that has been burning for the past 30 years: "fraternal" or "notfraternal "(or -" can they become fraternal again? "and other options) the Ukrainian and Russian peoples ??
    Correct answer: BROTHER PEOPLES WAS NOT, NOT AND WILL NOT BE! NO and NEVER !!
  15. 0
    4 October 2018 16: 55
    Dear Cockroach, thank you for paying attention to my comment and not leaving it unanswered.

    Yes, I am for the independence of Ukraine. Exactly the same as other Slavic peoples. But the country of Ukraine and the state of Ukraine, in the form that it (the state) is acquiring today, are different concepts. The state that is being built today is deeply disgusting to me.

    the state, which is disgusting to you, is a consequence of your "I thought and believe" that Ukraine should be independent !!!! and there can be no other !!! (if Germany is divided into two parts, then the second part will turn into the GDR, and not into the second West Germany).
    Alas for you, but most people like me in Ukraine

    Yes, alas ... for me ... if Ukraine, Belarus, the Russian Federation and Kazakhstan were in the same state, then I would be richer (potentially 2 times !!!), and the inhabitants of other republics 3-4 times what now!!!!! this economic growth is associated with an increase in economic ties within the state + synergy effect + increased state power (stronger positions in upholding the interests of the country).
    And if "Alas and Ah" is not for you, then "Bandera will come to order navede" - this is your choice! because your country has no other choice.
    You just forget your country. You Russians are more than 150 nationalities.

    I do not forget anything, where did you get it?
    but most people like me in Ukraine

    then what is happening in your country is what you (the people) deserve !!!!!
    how, in due time, the Soviet people deserved, which "so wanted to perish, as the West decays" (remember Petrosyan).
    PS
    God save the GDP for taking Crimea and Crimeans from people like you, I hope it will take all the Russians to LDNR as well.
    pp
    By the way, according to your logic, LDNR and ARC are separatists?