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MiG-31D tested with anti-satellite missile. Killer satellites?

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For the first time, high-quality photographs of the MiG-31D high-altitude interceptor, upgraded to use an anti-satellite missile, appeared on the Web.



The plane conducts test flights in Zhukovsky near Moscow with a new-type anti-satellite missile suspended under the fuselage. The upgraded vehicle with the tail number “81” is being tested in Zhukovsky from the 2016 of the year, but with the model of the rocket it got into the camera lens only now, reports bmpd.



The development of the aviation complex was carried out by designers of NPKB Almaz back in the 1980s. Aviation the space defense complex received the designation 30P6 “Contact”. A 31M07 anti-satellite missile, developed by the Fakel ICB, was suspended from the carrier (MiG-79D, “Type 6”).

As a means of target designation, "Contact" was supposed to use the radar-optical complex for the recognition of space objects 45Ж6 "Krona", located at the Sary-Shagan test site.

Aircraft revision was completed in 1987 year. Their flight tests were carried out by test pilots of the design bureau in Zhukovsky. The test program lasted several years.

However, the work was not brought to the end - with the collapse of the USSR, the development stopped. Two interceptors built with this topic with onboard numbers “071” and “072” remained on the territory of Kazakhstan.

According to some reports, at the end of 1980-x - the beginning of 1990, work began on the creation of a modified anti-satellite missile with an index of 95М6.

In August, 2009, then-Air Force commander Alexander Zelin, announced that the “Contact” system is being reanimated in Russia to solve “the same tasks”.
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  1. keeper03
    keeper03 30 September 2018 14: 59
    +22
    Great Sunday news! good That would be for real goals to practice and shove everything into space debris! wassat soldier
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 30 September 2018 15: 05
      +14
      They argued that we have nothing anti-satellite ... will be! There is a unique carrier! There will be a specific kit on it.
      We did not have a "war tomorrow"! It is necessary to work, to raise the industry!
      1. Vita vko
        Vita vko 30 September 2018 15: 25
        +16
        Quote: rocket757
        we have nothing anti-satellite ... will be!

        The anti-satellite complex 30P6 "Contact" with a 79M6 missile based on the MiG-31D is a rather old development of the early 80s. Later, a more recent version of the Air Launch system was created for launching small satellites into low-earth orbit. In 2006, Kazakhstan tried to join the Ishim project; even money was allocated for blowing a model of the product in a pipe.
        Back in 1998, OKB im. A.I. Mikoyan came up with the proposal to create a MiG-31С carrier aircraft based on the MiG-31 fighter-interceptor, capable of launching an RN-S carrier rocket from an altitude of the order of 17 km at a speed of 3000 km / h, which in turn would launch small orbits commercial spacecraft weighing from 40 to 200 kg. The first experimental launch of such a rocket was expected already in 1999-2000.

        It turns out the project has a dual purpose.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 30 September 2018 17: 44
          +2
          [/ Quote] Even the money allocated for blowing the model of the product in the pipe. [quote]
          the money for wind tunnel tests is relatively small, but R&D requires a lot of money
        2. Waldemar
          Waldemar 30 September 2018 20: 35
          +2
          It turns out that Kazakhstan allocated money but symbolic. So on candy
      2. Sergey39
        Sergey39 30 September 2018 16: 59
        +15
        More and more promising weapons are being hung on the MIG-31.
        Obviously need a new plane. I hope the MIG 41 tales are true and soon we will see a new carrier of all these new missiles.
      3. yehat
        yehat 1 October 2018 17: 35
        0
        it is interesting to compare the dimensions (and performance characteristics) of the "body kit" with the American air and ground-based anti-satellite missiles.
    2. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 30 September 2018 15: 31
      +40
      MiG-31 (NATO codification: Foxhound - foxhound) 1968 project !!! In military formation since 1976 !!! think about it, but it is a fact that the first fourth-generation aircraft is experiencing N-young youth and is becoming in demand as a modern formidable weapon, bravely to Soviet designers for this margin of safety!
      1. NN52
        NN52 30 September 2018 15: 59
        +9
        ancestors from Don

        Small clarification..
        Since 1984.
      2. mvg
        mvg 30 September 2018 16: 01
        -74
        think about it, yes this is a fact the first fourth-generation aircraft is experiencing N-th youth

        How to say, these planes are like mud. Together with "in storage" over 300 pieces. As fighters, they are useless, as interceptors, they are inferior to the Su-27/30/35, there is no work on the ground, but something needs to be done with them (lack of sides). So they come up with different "body kits", do not cut it on needles.
        Very expensive airplanes and expensive airplane * watches.
        PS: No wonder no one needed export. Like the 25th, who barely sucked in the araps. Useless booster plane. Very specialized.
        1. NN52
          NN52 30 September 2018 16: 14
          +44
          mvg (Maxim)

          So there!
          You were mistaken with the quantity in storage.
          With interceptors all the more, is this what they are inferior in to the capabilities of intercepting Sushkami? This is where the same rockets hang on Su as on 31?
          What kind of land work on 31? What are you talking about?
          Do not confuse with the body kit on the car ..

          Airplanes are expensive, but this is in the past, and there is no modernization to BM, K and D.
          And in history, about vtyuhivanie, you too, as if ///

          Why did you write such an unprofessional post?
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 30 September 2018 16: 44
            +13
            Quote: NN52
            Why are you writing such an unprofessional post?

            learn to separate the Trolls from the chaff ... yes yet the "fungus" did not give out its portion of poisonous spores ...
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 30 September 2018 17: 02
              +9
              Quote: mvg
              Yes, how to say, these planes are like dirt.


              As before, I didn’t particularly attach importance to the minuses,
              but for such "Maxims" I would put dozens, so that people who are not familiar with real information would understand that they have either a troll or a gibberish
              1. mvg
                mvg 30 September 2018 18: 30
                -27
                but for such "Maxims" I would put dozens, so that people are not familiar with real information

                Yes, I kind of confirmed all my words with articles and links, including from VO. I never thought up. Are you a professional pilot, with the rank of colonel? Oh well
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 30 September 2018 18: 44
                  +8
                  Quote: mvg
                  Are you a professional pilot, with the rank of colonel? Oh well


                  no, that's why I’m not trying to judge what I don’t understand
          2. flicker
            flicker 30 September 2018 17: 07
            +7
            Why did you write such an unprofessional post?
            Well this is just understandable smile
            for some, this is good news, but for someone, it will overwhelm the soul. yes
          3. mvg
            mvg 30 September 2018 18: 05
            -13
            You were mistaken with the quantity in storage.

            // It is known that the 60 MiG-31 will be upgraded to the BM version, and, according to Zelin, 30-40 MiG-31 in the DZ and BS versions will also remain in the composition. The rest of the MiG-31 (about 150 pcs.) Plan to write off. [53] //
            This is what gives a wiki a total of 250 boards.

            // 2. How many are there?
            article 016 of the year

            A total of 519 cars were produced.

            Now the Air Force has about 300 MiGs (these are all combat-ready, combat combat ready, in reserve, in storage, etc. etc.).

            The combat strength of the units is about 120-130 vehicles. Of these, 60 pieces were upgraded about the BM program and a second contract was signed to modernize about the same amount in BMs yet. //
            https://pikabu.ru/story/istrebitelperekhvatchik_mig31_chast_2_4469017
            With interceptors all the more, is this what they are inferior in to the capabilities of intercepting Sushkami? This is where the same rockets hang on Su as on 31?

            And in what superior?
            Here is an article on VO
            https://topwar.ru/34518-nebo-istrebitelya-perspektivy-perehvatchika-mig-31.html
            This, so as not to insert texts ... not my words, but the pilot.
            What kind of land work on 31? What are you talking about?

            Well, if the KAB-1500 and KAB-500 are written in the armament nomenclature, then it works on the ground, or am I mistaken? Only here on earth he sees nothing, can only put iron on the city. Now in the fashion station wagons that work equally well on the ground and in air combat can stand up for themselves. And this is correct (F-15E Striigigl, F-16 Block 52, Su-30SM, only there is no sighting container)
            Do not confuse with the body kit on the car ..

            The word "body kit" from the previous comment, I'm not fond of body kit on the car, I like a clean plant.
            Airplanes are expensive, but this is in the past, and there is no modernization to BM, K and D.
            And in history, about vtyuhivanie, you too, as if ///

            And what, BM, K, D changed the D-30 engines and they became 2 times more economical? Or is maintenance of a modernized radar now worthless?
            What are the successes of the MiG-25 in the Arab * Israeli wars? Not a single commercial contract, only "donated" to the rich by the USSR and the cancellation of billions in debt. And according to the MiG-31 .. only Kazakhstan operates the miracle plane, and that is a legacy.

            I answered something like that? hi
            1. NN52
              NN52 30 September 2018 19: 02
              +10
              mvg (Maxim)

              Somehow they didn’t answer, Maxim ...
              You gave a link to an article by Kaptsov from 13 years old, reasoning with himself ... laughing Is he a pilot now?
              You are mistaken about the work on the MiG 31 land (once you tried to puzzle him with this, but eliminated this bias in time ...)
              Engines have not become more economical ... And where does the maintenance of the radar?
              And 31, I agree with you, really a miracle plane, and fly it and fly.
              1. mvg
                mvg 30 September 2018 20: 01
                -6
                Somehow they didn’t answer, Maxim ...

                Dmitry, you doubted the quantity, but I just remembered that I read the numbers of the airborne forces a couple of years ago, and the number of 300 boards, I found you links for a couple of minutes, that from 1978-1994 519 aircraft were produced, for 16 years there were more than 300, etc.
                Regarding the interceptor, I remembered reading an article about the capabilities of the Zaslon-M and the MiG-31 as an interceptor, both the KR (for which it was originally imprisoned) and aeroballistic targets. The article was very skeptical about the capabilities of the 31st to intercept the CD against the background of the earth. Gave you a link, even two.
                If possible, conduct an air battle - it loses to all aircraft of the 4th generation (and partially the 3rd).
                Regarding the interception of strategists, AWACS and missile defense systems (as F-14 was positioned) - well, strategists will not enter its zone, launch missile defense systems long before its radius of 900 km, AWACS will see it much earlier, and I strongly doubt R-33 (it main armament), and the cover of the AWAC will bring him down. In KR, air-to-ground (like our X-22/32, well, I don’t know, I didn’t read it ... I only read how the F-14 shot down the X-22.
                On the ground they themselves wrote that in no way. And how much they talked about the MiG-25, in the Arap wars, which can bomb cities with impunity ...
                Profitability of an airplane thousand $ / hour - here is also the economics of engines and people / hours for maintenance - as I understand it. That's about Barrier-M and mentioned .. this radar had problems and rather big ones. I didn’t see anything on earth ..
                fly him and fly.

                The youngest is 24 years old. He’s not a 50-year-old strategist. Yes, and D-30F6, now I'll see if they release
                // Serially produced by JSC "Perm Motors", currently the production is discontinued, repairs are being carried out at JSC "218 ARZ" //
                1. Vita vko
                  Vita vko 30 September 2018 20: 24
                  +12
                  Quote: mvg
                  about Barrier-M and mentioned .. this radar had problems and rather big ones. I didn’t see anything on earth.

                  It is not designed to work on ground targets, too powerful SDC for this radar. If you are talking about CD against the background of the earth, then it all depends on the guidance angle and the speed of convergence with the target. For almost 10 years, he provided guidance to the MiG-31B and there were never any problems, except that the navigator himself would blunt and begin to direct from an angle where the target parameter was close to "0". But we also had unique navigators who knew how to aim at the range in such a way that, at one course, with one R-33 missile, they destroyed 2 targets at once imitating KR.
                2. Lozovik
                  Lozovik 1 October 2018 21: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: mvg
                  read only how the F-14 shot down the X-22


                  There has never been such a thing.

                  Quote: mvg
                  And how much they talked about the MiG-25, in the Arap wars, which can bomb cities with impunity ...


                  For all the time he was shot down only once at high altitude.
                  1. mvg
                    mvg 1 October 2018 22: 57
                    -1
                    There has never been such a thing

                    I have already given links to the Tests of the Phoenix and F-14 ... I do not want to repeat. Try to find for yourself, it will take 2 minutes ... Shot down 5 out of 6 targets in one departure.
                    he was shot down only once at high altitude.

                    Similarly, another 2 minutes and you will find how Israel ambushed and shot down. Just at low altitude. After they shot down again, the SAM, even the video on the VO was laid out.
                    In 1991, the anti-Iraqi coalition knocked down ... Moreover, this was confirmed by fragments, and not just like that, like "they got hit"
                    PS: Use Google, it is still available. hi
                    1. Lozovik
                      Lozovik 1 October 2018 23: 18
                      0
                      VX-4 also achieved the first direct hit on a CQM-10B Bomarc — representing a MiG-25 Foxbat - flying at Mach 2-7 and more than 70,000ft. Twenty days later the squadron scored a lethal hit on a second Bomarc, this time flying at Mach 2-5 and 73,000ft. A typical interception mission against a Mach 2-8 CQM-10B at 72,000ft was a Phoenix firing at 51 nm range from an F-14 at Mach 1-2 and 41,000ft. Targets cruising at up to 81,000ft have successfully been intercepted.


                      The rest is solely your imagination.

                      Quote: mvg
                      Similarly, another 2 minutes and you will find how Israel ambushed and shot down. Just at low altitude. After they shot down again, the SAM, even the video on the VO was laid out.
                      In 1991, the anti-Iraqi coalition knocked down ... Moreover, this was confirmed by fragments, and not just like that, like "they got hit"
                      PS: Use Google, it is still available. hi


                      Again

                      Quote: mvg
                      And how much they talked about the MiG-25, in the Arap wars, which can bomb cities with impunity


                      So why are you writing about interceptors and low altitudes?
                      1. mvg
                        mvg 2 October 2018 01: 23
                        -1
                        The rest is solely your imagination.

                        No, I did not imitate the Foxbet attack I thought you would find. I, like, gave all the hints. There were 6 targets, 2 imitated Tu-22, 4 more imitated X-22. The interception was carried out at maximum range, about 600 km from the aircraft carrier ... Spend another 2 minutes ...
          4. yehat
            yehat 1 October 2018 17: 38
            +1
            as far as I know, the MIG-31 much earlier than the F-35 received a system of information exchange and coordination of actions, which sushkas still seem to lack. I'm not talking about speed, range and the ability to take heavy missiles.
        2. Turist1996
          Turist1996 30 September 2018 16: 50
          +15
          Very useless. Only Americans with NATO are not aware of this.
          You already enlighten them, wretched .. And then they have been afraid of violating the air border of Russia since the time of putting into service the MiG-25 yet ..
          In any case - in the impudent, in the Powers style on the U-2.
          In the style of "it was a peaceful Boeing" - everything is ok! The Naglo-Saxons, in their usual provocative style, will more than once throw corpses on the heads of honest people.
          1. mvg
            mvg 30 September 2018 18: 15
            -14
            In any case - in the impudent, in the Powers style on the U-2.

            How is Powers connected to the MiG-25 ??? These are different eras ... There were MiG-19 and Su-7/9 in my opinion.
            Find at least one interception of a MiG-25 aircraft, successful. But the Jews can even show the video and the wreckage of the downed MiG (and more than one).
            And then they’ve been afraid of breaking the air border of Russia since the MiG-25 was put into service ..

            So they are afraid that they are sitting in diapers .. Is this the local media say so or grandmothers on the bench? The MiG-31 was designed to intercept the Droda SR-71, since 25 capabilities were not enough. But there were no real interceptions. And there time was scheduled in seconds, otherwise they did not have time. By the way, Drozd’s speed is still higher.
            https://topwar.ru/37299-istoriya-aviacii-kak-mig-31-zakryl-sovetskoe-nebo-amerikanskomu-strategicheskomu-razvedchiku-sr-71.html
            1. Azim77
              Azim77 30 September 2018 18: 55
              +15
              Quote: mvg
              The MiG-31 was designed to intercept the Drod SR-71, as 25 lacked capabilities. But there were no real interceptions.

              Well, the blackbirds stopped flying after the release of the MiG-31. So? It means that he coped with his task of "interception". Or do you need it to be like in war - shot down, not shot down?
              By the way, for reflection - ICBMs have also never been used ..
              1. mvg
                mvg 1 October 2018 23: 02
                -1
                Well, the blackbirds stopped flying after the MiG-31

                No it is not true. They were more afraid of air defense. The MiG-31 is unable to intercept the SR-71. It has a cruising speed of 2500 in addition> 3000, and the afterburner is less than that of Drozd and the practical ceiling is lower. You need to know the exact route in order to get onto the SR-71 a little lower and launch the R-33, from about 40 km, but this is unrealistic. I read about preparation for interceptions, there is a skeptical mood.
                There is an article on VO about SR-71, there are quite detailed conclusions about why it stopped flying. MiG is not the main argument.
            2. yehat
              yehat 1 October 2018 17: 41
              +1
              Jews, against solitary moments, used carefully prepared traps, often consisting of a DRLO aircraft, radars in the Golan Heights, 2-3 groups of fighters and EW aircraft. There is not a single front-line fighter that would not suffer losses in such conditions.
              Almost all the shots were made by launching an air-to-air rocket from below, i.e. almost point blank.
        3. SETTGF
          SETTGF 30 September 2018 17: 02
          +24
          mvg! There is no need to write nonsense about the futility. He is good in many ways! And do not confuse him with fighters to gain superiority in the air, he is a heavy fighter-interceptor, he has his own tasks ...
          1. mvg
            mvg 30 September 2018 18: 17
            -16
            He is good in many ways!

            In what? Enlighten ... otherwise I'm confused .. Who else in the world has specialized interceptors. As usual, we are smart, and the whole world -. That arrogant Saxons, that the French ... even the Americans refused the Tomkets ... also of the near strategic mind.
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 30 September 2018 19: 45
              +13
              Quote: mvg
              He is good in many ways!

              In what? Enlighten ... otherwise I'm confused .. Who else in the world has specialized interceptors. As usual, we are smart, and the whole world -. That arrogant Saxons, that the French ... even the Americans refused the Tomkets ... also of the near strategic mind.


              That is, in your opinion, those who made the decision to create the MIG-70 in the 31s acted from a small mind, and you, so smart and insightful, have now exposed them.

              It only remains to be proud that we have such a genius ...

              Do you think it was necessary to cover the North?

              I had familiar air defense officers, served in the north (Dixon, Khatanga)

              Can you imagine how much it takes to build everything to cover the huge border line of Russia (USSR) from the North?

              Or figs with her, the French don't, and we don’t need

              And let American bombers and missile carriers calmly fly to us.

              Both from the south and from the east - the same story

              Let's go beyond genius, what else have we set up for them?



              1. mvg
                mvg 30 September 2018 20: 13
                -14
                what else have we set up

                A lot of things ... lazy to list. For example Energy Buran
                I had familiar air defense officers, served in the north (Dixon, Khatanga)

                Can you imagine how much it takes to build everything to cover the huge border line of Russia (USSR) from the North?

                I also have friends with air defense. The truth is already served.
                Do you really think that "a pair of MiG-31s ​​are capable of covering 1500 km of the border"? how do they write everywhere?
                It only remains to be proud that we have such a genius ...

                Thank you good I do not consider myself stupid either. And I say, what I think ... by the way, I usually confirm my thoughts with something .. And not from the "barking bay" under pivasik.
                .................
                All the best
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 30 September 2018 20: 17
                  +6
                  Quote: mvg
                  Do you really think that "a pair of MiG-31s ​​are capable of covering 1500 km of the border"? how do they write everywhere?


                  So there were only "a couple" of them?

                  Quote: mvg
                  what else have we set up
                  - A lot of things ... lazy to list. For example Energy Buran


                  "In hindsight we are all strong", not only you

            2. Waldemar
              Waldemar 30 September 2018 20: 43
              0
              At least the fact that nothing in the world flies at an altitude of almost 40 km Karl!
              1. mvg
                mvg 30 September 2018 22: 49
                -4
                does not fly at an altitude of almost 40km

                Have you read it in the Youth Technique magazine? Or have you heard it somewhere? 37650 m is the dynamic ceiling of an empty aircraft specially adapted for the record.
                And "flies" is a horizontal flight. With a combat load - 17 dash 18 km, like everyone else ... If only in the Internet, or something, they looked .. In performance characteristics, the figure of 20600 m is practical and 30 km is dynamic. Miracle in feathers, mom not checking lessons? wink
                1. Genry
                  Genry 1 October 2018 11: 39
                  -2
                  Quote: mvg
                  37650 m is a dynamic ceiling of an empty aircraft specially adapted for a record.

                  Even if this is a record-breaking characteristic, the ceiling of a combat aircraft is not much lower. And reaching the target is also possible in a short-term stay at the "dynamic ceiling", and the rocket will add accessibility to the target, plus a dozen kilometers of altitude. So it covers all aerial-high-altitude targets.
                  And the main function of the MiG-31 is the delivery of weapons (missiles) to the point of destruction of the target and additional reconnaissance, followed by the destruction of the enemy (interception). As a duty, flying radar, any economical aircraft with equipment can be used (IL-114 is planned).
                  1. Henderson
                    Henderson 1 October 2018 12: 02
                    0
                    Quote: Genry
                    So it covers all aero-altitude targets.

                    only now there are no such goals. The main problem now is cruise missiles. And on the contrary, they cling to the ground.
                  2. mvg
                    mvg 1 October 2018 14: 18
                    0
                    And reaching the target is also possible in a short-term stay on the "dynamic ceiling"

                    Horror ... flying on the wings of the night ... horror
                    on duty, flying radar can be used by any economical aircraft with equipment (IL-114 is planned).

                    It will already be an AWACS aircraft. Those. you must understand that at first a low-speed Il-114 arrives at the point (by the way, for the first time I hear it being planned for an AWACS or EW aircraft), and then there, almost along the aeroballistic (well, to jump higher) trajectory, the MiG-31 with a suspended rocket rushes .. which does not bother him at all.
                    PS: The point is (air launch) to rise higher at a given point and launch an anti-satellite missile. For this, the Americans used the B-52, which did not jump onto any dynamo ceiling.
                    37650 m record and 20600 m practical (obviously not with 9 tons of load on board), is it "a little"?
                2. Lozovik
                  Lozovik 2 October 2018 22: 38
                  0
                  Quote: mvg
                  Have you read it in the Youth Technique magazine? Or have you heard it somewhere? 37650 m is the dynamic ceiling of an empty aircraft specially adapted for the record.


                  What does the E-155M have to do with the MiG-31?

                  Quote: mvg
                  And "flies" is a horizontal flight. With a combat load - 17 dash 18 km, like everyone else ... If only in the Internet, or something, they looked .. In performance characteristics, the figure of 20600 m is practical and 30 km is dynamic. Miracle in feathers, mom not checking lessons? wink


                  Oh, so you know perfectly the RLE of airplane 01?
            3. yehat
              yehat 1 October 2018 17: 43
              0
              and how do we protect the eastern borders? a continuous air defense system, as in Europe, there will be a navel to build - too long distances.

              Instead of one Mig-31 regiment, the Americans held 3-4 f-15 regiments with support for AWACS aircraft in order to defend territories of similar size
          2. Waldemar
            Waldemar 30 September 2018 20: 51
            +7
            Well, he doesn’t understand that moment 31 is an element of layered air defense. He is a genius, a genius cannot be understood. Moreover, Soviet engineer monkeys sitting in quilted jackets around an iron stove in a gulag hut made him able to get the closest to the border of space and fly faster than all airplanes, at least for the moment. Why do these Russian savages from dugouts do such a primitive I myself do not understand
            1. mvg
              mvg 30 September 2018 22: 52
              -6
              Mig31 element of layered air defense

              Especially in the North, a train from one train ..
              fly faster than all planes, at least for the time being

              SR-71 flew faster, and he also owns a speed record .. You look at the Internet, there, sometimes, all kinds of interesting things are laid out. Do not disdain.
              1. yehat
                yehat 1 October 2018 17: 47
                0
                the speed record does not belong to sr-71. stop silly hawk propaganda.
                and yes, the Americans were the first to launch man into space, only dead. And we are alive.

                As for the speed, our "Spiral" has a record.
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                2. Mimoprohodil
                  Mimoprohodil 2 October 2018 09: 56
                  0
                  Quote: yehat

                  As for the speed, our "Spiral" has a record.
                  What record are you talking about? The spiral did not make more than one flight. Read about the FAI records and do not write nonsense. SR-71 records among supersonic aircraft with turbojet engines
                  .
                  According to the classification of the FAI International Aviation Federation, supersonic aircraft belong to group 3 of class C1, i.e. to the class of aircraft intended for operation from a solid surface and equipped with turbojet engines (the use of an auxiliary propulsion system, for example in the form of a rocket accelerator, is allowed). This means that the record speeds and altitudes obtained on experimental aircraft with a rocket propulsion system (X-1, X-2, X-15 and D-558-II) are not included in the C 1/3 FAI registry.
      3. Waldemar
        Waldemar 30 September 2018 20: 38
        +7
        You confused Mig31 with its predecessor of the 3rd generation, on the basis of which the 31st was created. And instant 31 is already 4th. By the way, an interesting fact: its engines give supersonic at cruising speed without afterburner, which refers to the 5th generation
        It's like confusing su35 and su27
        1. Henderson
          Henderson 1 October 2018 12: 33
          0
          Mig-31 has no afterburner supersonic.
        2. mvg
          mvg 1 October 2018 14: 22
          0
          You confused Mig31 with its predecessor of the 3rd generation, on the basis of which the 31st was created.

          Escho times, for those who are in the tank ... have you looked at the Internet? TTX MiG-25, MiG-31 and SR-71 watched who, how much and at what speed is able to fly? There is an interesting article about SR-71 on VO, not even one. And about the MiG-25 is mentioned there. Incidentally, it is at least no slower than the MiG-31, which has speed limits.
          1. yehat
            yehat 1 October 2018 17: 50
            -1
            the question is not who can fly at what speed, but who can fly without harm at high speed and for a long time. According to the experience of the Arabian showdowns, MiG-25 proved that it can fly fast, but only once and for a short time - they were brought from there with melted wings. The thrush is much more hardy, like the MiG-1.
            1. mvg
              mvg 1 October 2018 18: 01
              0
              who can fly at what speed, and who can fly without harm at high speed and for a long time

              Just SR-71 flies for a long time at supersonic, MiG-25 minutes, MiG-31 only afterburner, and then its combat radius is a penny.
              brought from there with melted wings

              Not wings - the khan engine was. The plane never flew anymore. Reached speed 3200 at that time.
              1. Lozovik
                Lozovik 2 October 2018 22: 29
                0
                Quote: mvg
                MiG-25 minutes


                About 27-28 minutes, not counting acceleration and braking.

                Quote: mvg
                MiG-31 only afterburner


                So what? The above also.
      4. Henderson
        Henderson 1 October 2018 12: 00
        -1
        Quote: ancestors from the Don
        yes this is a fact the first fourth generation aircraft

        The F-14 was adopted in 1974, 2 years earlier than the MiG-31.
        1. yehat
          yehat 1 October 2018 17: 53
          0
          The F-14 is a very cool aircraft, but fundamentally inferior to the MIG-31 in a number of aspects, if only because it is much more strictly limited in terms of basing, not to mention such things as compact phased array antennas, the design technology of which the Americans did not have - she was stolen from us much later.
          1. Henderson
            Henderson 1 October 2018 20: 26
            0
            Quote: yehat
            but fundamentally inferior to the mig-31 in a number of aspects, if only because it is much more strictly limited in basing

            in terms of F-14 basing, it is superior to the MiG-31, aircraft carriers expand their geography almost unlimitedly.
            Quote: yehat
            not to mention such things as compact phased array antennas,

            in the characteristics of the radars are not visible what are some cardinal differences. Well, about the compactness of the Barrier, you got very excited. A ton of weight at Barrier versus 590kg at AN / AWG-9. Roughly speaking, the Mig-31 was designed for this heavy radar.

            Radar F-14 AN / AWG-9
            the number of goals followed - 24,
            the number of simultaneously fired targets - 6
            maximum detection range - 200km.

            Radar Mig-31 Barrier
            Detection range of an air target such as a bomber:
            in the front hemisphere - 200km
            Number of targets detected: 24
            Channel for TsU - 8


            Quote: yehat
            design technologies that the Americans did not have - it was stolen from us much later.

            And again, untruth. Americans began to use radars with FAR from the end of the 50s, so the big question is who stole what from whom. And stole at all.
            1. yehat
              yehat 2 October 2018 10: 42
              0
              radars with FAR were used, only you forgot their sizes, for example, on a long beach cruiser - the Americans did not know how to calculate compactly integrated antennas - the interference brought their work to a complete standstill. Now they make similar antennas on ships several times smaller thanks to Soviet technology.
              1. Henderson
                Henderson 2 October 2018 10: 44
                -1
                Quote: yehat
                Now they make similar antennas on ships several times smaller thanks to Soviet technology.

                only here on Soviet ships, the PHAR was not particularly noticed. And in the modern Russian Federation on serial fighter jets no AFAR was noticed. Although even the Chinese have long accepted them.
                1. yehat
                  yehat 2 October 2018 11: 52
                  0
                  but you are forced to admit that there was a FAR for the moment-31, and AFAR was still a rarity on airplanes due to the high cost.
                  1. Henderson
                    Henderson 2 October 2018 13: 14
                    0
                    Mig-31 was designed speciallyso that you can put on this fool called the Barrier.
                    It is impossible to push it into any normal fighter because of its size and weight.
                    And AFAR is in the modern world for a long time the norm of life, stand on F-22, F-35, F-15, F-16, F-18, Rafaly, Eurofighter, Gripeny, Chinese J-11, J-15, J- 20, Mitsubishi F-2 and others.
                    In short, the radar with AFAR is already in full use by all the leading powers, except for Russia.
    3. Antidote
      Antidote 30 September 2018 15: 38
      -23
      Let's create a denser ring of all rubbish, so as not to break out of the planet already. Yeah.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 September 2018 16: 57
        +5
        Quote: NN52
        Why did you write such an unprofessional post?

        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        To separate the trolls from the chaff ...

        Interceptor, distant !!! Dear, complex, highly specialized ... yes. yes, yes! We needed it, our designers did it - and who else has such SPACES and the enemy makes faces from behind every corner!
        There is a use for him now, we have not become less so, and our enemies have not hidden their hari anywhere.
        Fly dove, fly!
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 30 September 2018 21: 19
          +9
          Quote: rocket757
          It was necessary for us, our designers did it - and who else has such SPACES and the enemy is making faces because of every angle!

          The 31s were the basis of the 10th separate air defense army, which covered the Arctic. And now, the Nuts with Axes from under the pack ice of the Arctic are ready for volleys to the entire depth of the territory of Siberia and not only ...
          And the 31st with "Zaslon" controls one 600 km along the front. Thank God the continuous radar field was restored ... Otherwise, they were completely naked from the North ...
          1. yehat
            yehat 2 October 2018 11: 54
            0
            And the 31st with "Zaslon" controls one 600 km along the front


            A swarm of volleys, Americans can easily increase to several tens, and the MiG-31 is unlikely to launch more than 4 missiles. A standard group of 4 drags only 16. Therefore, control is a very conditional thing, but at least it is, because the alternative is simply unarmed blindness.
    4. Totah155 Mk 2
      Totah155 Mk 2 30 September 2018 18: 17
      -6
      Yes, let's start destroying satellites.
      Just think first how to dispose of the debris.
      Otherwise, it will be impossible to use near space ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 September 2018 18: 41
        +7
        For those who do not particularly understand.
        To realize or have what to realize, the actions are different.
        If it comes to shooting down satellites, what's the difference to whom then it will interfere?
      2. brr1
        brr1 30 September 2018 18: 48
        -1
        Stop whining
      3. yehat
        yehat 2 October 2018 11: 56
        0
        think how to dispose of debris

        rent Israel a cluttered orbit for a year

        you are wise, you know)))
  2. Fungus
    Fungus 30 September 2018 15: 02
    -2
    With 500 satellites will shoot down like
    1. figwam
      figwam 30 September 2018 15: 04
      +9
      Quote: Fungus
      With 500 satellites will shoot down like

      And for normal boys, also Mig-31)
    2. Laksamana besar
      Laksamana besar 30 September 2018 15: 29
      +5
      It will be able in the near space, most of the military satellites of different countries are there. C-500 will have several radars for different purposes instead of one universal radar as in C-400. Relatively speaking, one radar deals with airplanes and helicopters, another with cruise missiles, a third with ballistic missiles, and a fourth with satellites. There are also different types of missiles for different purposes, whereby one launcher can be combined, i.e., two missiles for space, two for other purposes, in the C-400 launcher there is only one type of missile.
      1. Genry
        Genry 1 October 2018 11: 51
        0
        Quote: Laksamana Besar
        PU S-400 only one type of missile

        This is a visual blende. In fact, several types of launchers (for 2, 4, ... missiles) with different types of missiles.
    3. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 September 2018 15: 33
      +4
      Quote: Fungus
      With 500 satellites will shoot down like

      Low-flying, yes, it will be able, because this complex is also designed for monitoring near space ... Nudol is more detailed, but limited in number. Why not use the opportunities of the 31st? At the same time, it seems that MIG-31 is also capable of putting satellites into orbit, the index MIG-31I "Ishim". For air launch of small spacecraft weighing 120-160 kg into orbits of 600-300 km.
  3. Sarmat Sanych
    Sarmat Sanych 30 September 2018 15: 03
    +10
    MiG-31D carrier / product 07, 30P6 "Contact" complex, 79M6 rocket. It looks like the Indos will soon begin to walk by themselves.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 September 2018 15: 29
      +4
      This is not D, but Mig 31K, only with an anti-satellite missile.
      1. NN52
        NN52 30 September 2018 16: 01
        +4
        Vadim237

        This is D (modified by BM), just like K.
  4. Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 September 2018 15: 20
    0
    This missile certainly weighs more than 4 tons.
  5. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 September 2018 15: 25
    +9
    About target designation is interesting of course.
    And so ... well, you can cram microsatellites into this rocket and shoot into orbit.
    And let this micro-group work for a week, but it will complete the task.
  6. askort154
    askort154 30 September 2018 15: 41
    +6
    And then there is the A-235 "Nudol" system - a satellite fighter. Interception altitude - 750 km, interception range - 1500 km. Tests began in 2014 (Sary-Shagan), last, test November 24.11.2017, XNUMX
    1. Genry
      Genry 1 October 2018 11: 55
      0
      Quote: askort154
      And then there is the A-235 "Nudol" system

      This system was intended to repel a limited nuclear strike in Moscow and the central industrial region. Its wider use is limited by agreement with the United States ....
  7. sergei28
    sergei28 30 September 2018 15: 51
    -34
    another bluff, the system never passed the test. You can carry and show the world any "cardboard" models. unfortunately. About "Nudol" there are also some conversations. It is necessary to admit for a long time that in the Russian Federation there is no air defense system in the required volumes.
    1. Fungus
      Fungus 30 September 2018 16: 17
      +12
      About Dagger and Vanguard also wrote cardboard, cartoons, etc. And they are already in service. So don’t cry. Everything will be fine.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 30 September 2018 16: 45
        +1
        Quote: Fungus
        Everything will be fine.

        if Exoderil is not lying.
      2. sergei28
        sergei28 1 October 2018 08: 36
        0
        Read more often, they write a lot of things on the fences. Dagger and Vanguard are you talking about arming? They are coming, but have not yet reached.
  8. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 30 September 2018 15: 52
    +3
    The main thing is that our number of "anti-satellite" MiG-31Ds does not grow to the detriment of MiG-31 interceptors ...
  9. san4es
    san4es 30 September 2018 16: 20
    +3
    31M07 anti-satellite missile was suspended from the carrier (MiG-79D, “Type 6”)

    Rocket 79M6 (left) and MiG-31D carrier aircraft No. 072 blue at Sary-Shagan training ground

    Estimated appearance and structure of the 79M6 "Contact" missile of the 30P6 "Contact" anti-satellite system
  10. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 30 September 2018 16: 30
    -12
    This is all nonsense, at the request of Shoigu, India will transfer three MiG-21 to Russia, so we fly, the air fleet is replenished. smile
    At the New Delhi Summit, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi will present three MiG-21s to Russian President Vladimir Putin as a gift, writes The Hindu. According to the publication, such a gift is a symbolic gesture designed to demonstrate Russian-Indian friendship.
    "According to plan three MiG-21 will be handed over to the Russian side on the basis of a request from their Minister of Defensesent to his Indian colleague. This request concerns one 75 Type and two 77 Types, ”said one source of the publication.
    The aircraft will be delivered in a flight-friendly condition, but packaging and transportation costs, according to another source, will be borne by Moscow.
    The machines will receive new registration numbers and can be further used for “vintage flights”. However, it is currently unclear how Russia intends to use them.
    MiG-21 is a gift of rather emotional significance, because this machine is the most massive supersonic fighter in history. According to some reports, they were produced about 11,5 thousand. These aircraft were in service with more than 50 countries.
  11. CERBERFOL
    CERBERFOL 30 September 2018 16: 31
    +1
    In a modern theater of operations, minimization is relevant. Good rockets, this is certainly good. HOW TO BE WITH SUCH PURPOSES THAT A SIZE WITH A BAT! Spend an expensive rocket ?!
    1. flicker
      flicker 30 September 2018 17: 14
      +7
      In a modern theater of war, relevant
      hit with an "expensive missile" at once on the country that launched this "BAT" ... in order to minimize costs.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 30 September 2018 20: 59
        +2
        Quote: flicker
        "BAT"


        laughing laughing

        Sorry, could not resist ...
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 September 2018 17: 03
    +2
    This is just about the "technological superiority" of the light elves. In order for their GPS to stop working, how many satellites do you need to shoot down? Pieces six to eight. Plus low-flying satellites - spies - to go blind and deaf. Plus a few messengers in high orbits - well, these are already killer satellites ...
    Do their officers know how to use cards and a compass? Without GPS laughing
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 30 September 2018 18: 55
      0
      And imagine how a fancy penguin without its seccentric support will fly and where?
      A bit of cloudiness, twilight, fog .... more blackouts !!!
      However, any high-tech garbage in the same situation will freeze!
      Do not charge. MANY people have taken care of orientation and control systems without external support.
      But here rrrrrrrrr problems are still those! There are no simple solutions.
      1. Henderson
        Henderson 1 October 2018 12: 06
        -1
        Quote: rocket757
        And imagine how a fancy penguin without its seccentric support will fly and where?

        Do you think there is no ANN?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 1 October 2018 12: 21
          0
          There is, but it does not differ in accuracy .... it is necessary to introduce a correction in place.
          In addition to orientation, with the loss of satellite communications, much more is lost, what is the advantage of high-tech weapons.
          At least, the external container ANN for F 16, shown a year or two ago, is a big thing, but according to the developer, the accuracy of determining the coordinates for such devices is excellent!
          Conclusion - it may work, but the benefits are lost.
          1. Henderson
            Henderson 1 October 2018 12: 42
            -1
            Quote: rocket757
            Yes, but it doesn’t differ in accuracy

            God, yes, even civilian systems give an error of only 1.8 km per hour of flight. And on the F-35 in the appendage there is an optical-location station, a synthetic aperture radar and digital maps of the area. All this in a complex reduces the error to a few meters.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 1 October 2018 13: 31
              0
              This is Wishlist ... however, in a straight line at the train, where there is no wind, there could be such a thing!
              And the earth, with poor visibility, has many more errors. Yes, even on the ground, with errors on meter-kilometers, hills, birches, power lines are found! Those. Correction by reference points is necessary, and this is a topic for counter-struggle and all that jazz.
              1. Henderson
                Henderson 1 October 2018 14: 51
                -1
                This is not a wish, it is a reality.
                All Tomahawks with Caliber quite decent fly low above the ground on digital maps with an error of meters.
                Electronics on the plane are much more powerful and advanced, and there are no problems getting attached to the terrain.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 1 October 2018 15: 40
                  0
                  Yeah, they definitely fly when there is no real opposition.
                  Modern computers are powerful \ high-speed and the level of various sensors is high, i.e. not to compare them with sectarians and astrolabes .... and the counteraction to this whole complex is not weak, just the fog, turning off the lighting, repainting the area will be limited!
                  There are clear indicators that this system can be misleading.
                  By the way, as I understand it, in the container for f 16, the determinant for the stars is also provided!
                  Those. there is a normal such a struggle of electronic systems ......
                  Who will win??? Duck who will tell us the truth ??? And see in kind ??? WMS is not necessary !!!
                  1. Henderson
                    Henderson 1 October 2018 16: 18
                    -1
                    Quote: rocket757
                    There are clear indicators that this system can be misleading.

                    I can’t imagine how you are going to change the terrain. Stroybat does not seem to exist for a long time.
    2. Mimoprohodil
      Mimoprohodil 30 September 2018 20: 44
      +3
      Do GPS satellites already fly in low orbit? For an altitude of 20180 km, killer satellites are also needed, and for them powerful rocket carriers are needed. And cosmodromes will be the primary goals for nuclear weapons
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 October 2018 08: 09
        -1
        The classic, already, the confrontation of means of attack and defense, who whom!
        A unit attack will surely be repelled, and a massive attack will lead to an avalanche start of everything and everything!
        Vigorous does not require archi accuracy, because for him all these zhps and glonas are very additional means of orientation!
        Conclusion - do not have delusional fantasies! Vigorous, this is an extreme argument of politicians, but for us EVERYTHING, a complete kirdets!
        The classical confrontation, without nuclear weapons, is not considered against us, by no means by anyone.
    3. Henderson
      Henderson 1 October 2018 12: 04
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In order for their GPS to stop working - how many satellites do you need to bring down? Pieces six - eight

      GPS satellites fly in orbits at an altitude of about 20000 km. What are you planning to shoot?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 1 October 2018 12: 27
        0
        No one expects that tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, we will have nothing to bring down with everything! For everything that cannot work efficiently without satellite communications, an alternative is done for something there!
        1. Henderson
          Henderson 1 October 2018 12: 31
          -1
          the downing of the American satellite will mean the beginning of a nuclear war. And with the ICBMs they are all right.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 1 October 2018 12: 42
            0
            As for them, so it is for us .... about vigorous everything has long been written / described ... and about the apocalypse following its application.
            All the idiot wants to prove that a "preemptive, disarming strike" is possible.
            If they believe / convince many that this is possible !!! it will be possible to wait for trouble !!!
            And now, many polls, and blah blah on the site show that many do not understand what might end, even a random attack on a real enemy! People have no understanding, no fear .... even if real military / politicians know the true state of things.
            Nobody will have advantages, EVERYBODY will lose!
  13. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 30 September 2018 17: 37
    +4
    Well, what can I say ... Glory to those, Lord!
  14. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 30 September 2018 19: 41
    +4
    So they are afraid that they are sitting in diapers .. Is this the local media say so or grandmothers on the bench? The MiG-31 was designed to intercept the Droda SR-71, since 25 capabilities were not enough. But there were no real interceptions. And there time was scheduled in seconds, otherwise they did not have time. By the way, Drozd’s speed is still higher.
    https://topwar.ru/37299-istoriya-aviacii-kak-mig-31-zakryl-sovetskoe-nebo-amerikanskomu-strategicheskomu-razvedchiku-sr-71.html


    No less difficult is the task of intercepting a strategic bomber, even if it is not covered by fighters. Usually, the means of interference counteraction in a heavy machine are so developed that the processes of guidance and obtaining the coordinates of the target and the attack itself are problematic. It is difficult to deceive the forces of nature, and the range at which a direct signal from the target is detected is calculated using the square root, and the reflected one is the fourth root. Other things being equal, interference is fundamentally less costly to install than to use active detection tools.

    An officer who served as an adviser in Libya during a period of aggravation of relations with the United States described how he “filtered” the interference from the B-52 on an old ground-based radar. According to the instructions, the bearing on the jammer is calculated by the maximum illumination on the screen when the antenna is rotated at a different angle relative to the enemy. But, according to him, within the angle of ± 150 degrees, the screen illumination was complete, or, as in such cases they say, “milk”. So the real fight of a fighter with a bomber is a very complicated process, and we can only say that the MiG-31 due to the high energy level of the radar and the presence of the phased array makes it better than other 4th generation interceptors. The same quality gives him advantages in a battle with a fighter. http://army-news.ru/2018/04/razmyshleniya-o-mig-31-boevoe-primenenie-i-effektivnost/
  15. Old26
    Old26 30 September 2018 22: 35
    +3
    Quote: Lara Croft
    The main thing is that our number of "anti-satellite" MiG-31Ds does not grow to the detriment of MiG-31 interceptors ...

    Yeah, not to the detriment. That for "Dagger" you need "31st", now for the ASAT system. And the number of MIGs is finite. In the ranks - about 6-120. how much is in storage and what can be done with them is unknown ...

    Quote: Fungus
    About Dagger and Vanguard also wrote cardboard, cartoons, etc. And they are already in service. So don’t cry. Everything will be fine.

    "Dagger" is still on experimental combat duty and when they will be in combat units is unknown. Still undergoing tests ... The maximum that while "Dagger" was shooting - at the range at a distance of 805 km ...
    "Vanguard" can be stamped even in hundreds, the problem is that there is no carrier for it yet. If they are deployed on two dozen old 2A15s, then both them and the mines need to be modernized. "Sarmat" is not yet, there were only BI. so we can only talk about Vanguard in the future tense ....

    Quote: Sarmat Sanych
    MiG-31D carrier / product 07, 30P6 "Contact" complex, 79M6 rocket. It looks like the Indos will soon begin to walk by themselves.

    They wrote off such a system at their place when, because the resource of anti-satellite missiles is developed very quickly. And they do not even try to do a new one, realizing that using an aircraft carrier as a platform for launching an anti-satellite missile is much more difficult than using a ground-based missile ...
    1. sergei28
      sergei28 1 October 2018 08: 42
      -1
      "The Dagger is still on experimental combat duty" .... It is still undergoing experimental design tests, and there can be no question of any combat duty.
  16. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 1 October 2018 10: 29
    0
    We would have made a demonstrative launch of a rocket and shot down some sort of decommissioned satellite and published all this ...... how many howls would have risen, but the signal sent to the main opponent - the United States, would have definitely reached.
    1. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 1 October 2018 14: 12
      +2
      Here are some misunderstandings with the articles: "still a chicken in the nest, and an egg ...", and already about the "killer of satellites", I would also go to add a cartoon with a flight, generally in the current channel. A strange news feed went, not about facts, but about intentions, .. Whoever boasts a lot, nothing ... But recently, military secrets and opportunities were tried not to advertise, but they kept secret ...
  17. Naughty
    Naughty 1 October 2018 16: 51
    -1
    Quote: Valdemar
    It turns out that Kazakhstan allocated money but symbolic. So on candy


    So Kazakhstan is a symbolic state))))
  18. Naughty
    Naughty 1 October 2018 16: 56
    0
    Quote: mvg
    You were mistaken with the quantity in storage.

    // It is known that the 60 MiG-31 will be upgraded to the BM version, and, according to Zelin, 30-40 MiG-31 in the DZ and BS versions will also remain in the composition. The rest of the MiG-31 (about 150 pcs.) Plan to write off. [53] //
    This is what gives a wiki a total of 250 boards.

    // 2. How many are there?
    article 016 of the year

    A total of 519 cars were produced.

    Now the Air Force has about 300 MiGs (these are all combat-ready, combat combat ready, in reserve, in storage, etc. etc.).

    The combat strength of the units is about 120-130 vehicles. Of these, 60 pieces were upgraded about the BM program and a second contract was signed to modernize about the same amount in BMs yet. //
    https://pikabu.ru/story/istrebitelperekhvatchik_mig31_chast_2_4469017
    With interceptors all the more, is this what they are inferior in to the capabilities of intercepting Sushkami? This is where the same rockets hang on Su as on 31?

    And in what superior?
    Here is an article on VO
    https://topwar.ru/34518-nebo-istrebitelya-perspektivy-perehvatchika-mig-31.html
    This, so as not to insert texts ... not my words, but the pilot.
    What kind of land work on 31? What are you talking about?

    Well, if the KAB-1500 and KAB-500 are written in the armament nomenclature, then it works on the ground, or am I mistaken? Only here on earth he sees nothing, can only put iron on the city. Now in the fashion station wagons that work equally well on the ground and in air combat can stand up for themselves. And this is correct (F-15E Striigigl, F-16 Block 52, Su-30SM, only there is no sighting container)
    Do not confuse with the body kit on the car ..

    The word "body kit" from the previous comment, I'm not fond of body kit on the car, I like a clean plant.
    Airplanes are expensive, but this is in the past, and there is no modernization to BM, K and D.
    And in history, about vtyuhivanie, you too, as if ///

    And what, BM, K, D changed the D-30 engines and they became 2 times more economical? Or is maintenance of a modernized radar now worthless?
    What are the successes of the MiG-25 in the Arab * Israeli wars? Not a single commercial contract, only "donated" to the rich by the USSR and the cancellation of billions in debt. And according to the MiG-31 .. only Kazakhstan operates the miracle plane, and that is a legacy.

    I answered something like that? hi


    NAZ "Sokol" maternity hospital MiG 31 in NN is littered with dismantled 31 MiGs. On met. scrap they don't sell a kilogram, they say that everything is for remelting and for new aircraft
  19. crambol
    crambol 2 October 2018 12: 38
    0
    It’s interesting, how would the Am special agencies react if such messages about local developments appeared in the states?
  20. Lozovik
    Lozovik 2 October 2018 22: 10
    0
    mvg,
    Quote: mvg
    No, I did not imitate the Foxbet attack I thought you would find. I, like, gave all the hints. There were 6 targets, 2 imitated Tu-22, 4 more imitated X-22.


    Two BQM-34



    Four Lockheed QT-33



    This is so pathetic that it’s not even funny.