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Who benefits from regularly pouring black and dirty things into the souls of Russians?

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I remember the tales of my grandmother, there, in distant 60. Kashchei was destroyed in an equal battle by an epic warrior, and Vasilisa the Beautiful returned to his father's house; Alyonushka was saved by a brave knight on a gray and good wolf; Ivanushka, though a fool, saved Mother Russia; Three epic bogatyrs, the host was thundered by the enemy, the Nightingale the robber does not whistle now on the federal highway; The scarlet flower was handed to the monster and he became a prince; grandmother brought granddaughter pies and brave hunters saved them; Key Pinocchio opened the door to communism; Chipolino evil Tomatoes won; Alyonushka saved Kozlik's brother and, finally, the magic fish clearly judged everything with grandfather !!! Wise tales, wise ancestors!

All the children of the USSR read about the good militiaman Stepu and Alyoshka in the north, were proud of our heroes, suffered soul for the head of Professor Dowell and empathized with the plight of the prisoner of the castle of If. We knew at what cost we won the victory over fascism, we saw and heard our glorious veterans in the lessons of courage! Proudly stood on the watch of memory at the memorials of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War and understood that they had fallen for our lives!

Actually, what's wrong? Maybe there are those who say that the soldiers died not for the happiness of the children, not for the freedom of the Earth Native, hearth, relatives and loved ones?
We lived in a politicized world, a world where psychiatric hospitals were not only for the sick, but also dissidents, where they removed their shoes and beat on the stands, where "there were long, prolonged applause interrupted by health resorts, and everything turned into a storm of applause!" We dragged on school yard scrap metal and in the back waste paper! We walked with slogans and beat the drums! Mat was a great rarity! Old women were transferred across the road and a place in the bus was inferior!

Oh! How cool it was to go to the 1 rally in May, everything was all around in colors and banners, trucks with the Kremlin and a blast furnace, sea of ​​red flags passed by, men silently poured vodka from the floor behind the bushes, you happily burst with a needle inflatable balls at girls, develop scarlet ties and sweaty school principal shouting loudly - “who has the politburo?” The music rattles there, near the square, loudly, joyfully and happily the people shout at the command - “Hurray! Comrades! Hurray !!!”

What was, was and we do not need to repent! Maybe nostalgia? I remember an old and wise anecdote, where an honored veteran appears in front of the schoolchildren and they ask him - “Grandfather, and what are your happiest years? I have 37- 38 - the shock is quiet, like in the same place in all repression went! Yes! We were walking! But I was young and the girls loved me !!! ”

Anything is different! And now I'm not talking about how we were stamped on the ideological conveyor: Oktyabrёnok - a pioneer - a Komsomol member - a communist. However, we were not much different from the current party "list": - the youth wing - Seliger's political council - the young guard - one, something there! The introduction of the purity of 60’s soul goes to the present day, to the harsh realities, so to speak!

1 channel, 2 - that's all the joy of that time, the program "Time". Then more and more we were chasing “greats”, football, almost everybody ran sports in the section!

Now there are a lot of channels, 120-150, a lot of remotes (you are quite confusing, which one to press) radio, Internet, video, magazines, newspapers, cinemas and theaters, advertising and streamers, banners and flyers! On the streets of our cities walk shaggy Chips and Gales, and races with people, "sandwiches" shoved into our hands the leaves. In the mailbox, among the offers of safe-doors and Japanese cuisine, you hardly find your letter (however, the modern youth and the joy of receiving the letter no longer know, more and more SMS and mobile phones).
And they began to solder Russia even before “Tishayshy” in the public taverns, Lenin tried to stop the process, Gorbachev didn’t work! Eh! How proudly they are talking about our trade union miner-tourist in 80 in Germany, where he drank vodka in glasses in a restaurant, for free from the director of the establishment, under the admiring glances and amazement of the burghers! Actually, I think, they have already spoiled Russia, according to the WHO, our country has already crossed the line of genetic safety, they drink in the village, they drink in the villages, the schoolchildren drink beer! But about soldering people and income from this topic is quite different, albeit a sad one! Degradation recycle everywhere!

I want to ask about the moral and ethical drug that the Russian media regularly introduce to us in large doses. May 18 Morning 2012 of the year - 06.10 in the hands of the console, eat scrambled eggs, drink milk, here newswith which I was stuffed before working for 15 minutes on 8 channels:
1. Near Novosibirsk, in the village, a drunken mother with a drinking companion killed an atrocious five-year-old child who prevented them from drinking and, having buried in the garden, continued to drink.
2. On the outskirts of Yekaterinburg, a three-year-old child drowned in an open manhole.
3. In Stavropol turned over the bus carrying children, there are victims.
4. A pedophile was arrested in Moscow, raping and killing a child.
5. In Voronezh, a mother and a child were killed at a pedestrian crossing, the driver disappeared.
6. In Kemerovo, a schoolboy committed suicide by throwing himself from a window on the 10 floor.
I, realizing that the black, negative energy is poisoning me, switched channels, and there it was on all other channels, everything was pouring in and pouring into me until I turned off the TV. In the evening, there were a series of serials that are not completely different from each other in primitivism: fools cry, children are stolen, police dogs are smarter than the police themselves, and one prosecutor saves everyone! I can imagine how, with annoyance, the police and prosecutors grunts at these TV shows! These primitive series have already mentally gotten out, as well as standing in a row along the street - a pharmacy, a hairdresser, a bank and dentistry. Well, come on, with these banks and pharmacies, let them stand a lot and tightly, the main thing is to have good ones!

Why on television the word ass has long been replaced (sorry) on the ass, why vulgarity has become ordinary on the screens of our televisions, gradually laughter has become rosy? Why, for eight years now, our young people have been zombied on “House-2”, but do you remember the nightmarish telepuzis, from whom the baton was now intercepted by smeshariki - “unknown animals”?
All this leads to scarcity of thought and a limited vocabulary of children - “like, uh, something like that ...” Of course, it is easier to control the cattle, that for them the lumpen are bread and circuses!

Maybe it’s time to analyze the regular flow of negative material on the minds and souls of Russians! Reconcile daily blood and vulgarity from “blue screens” To protect the people of Russia from coding “black” channels with the time frame after 1 one o'clock in the morning - who loves blood, sadism and tupism - let him watch if he is 21 a year. To determine the color zones of permissible dirty tricks of sadism, immorality and sex in movies, magazines, television programs - green code, red and black.

Where there is no question of the purity of the nation, of spirituality, there is no liberal and tolerant dispute about “true freedom of human expression”, over the years we have seen enough of this dirty trick and scum thanks to editors who agree to sell the soul to the devil for rating! We are deliberately convincing in our own worthlessness!

If the mud that is poured over us is not stopped now, it will be late, and soon we will read bitterly that, according to the scale of human values, kindness, morality, spirituality and mercy with compassion, Russia is in the world of 179 after the country of horror and chaos "Tumba- Yumba "!!!
I feel sorry for the State!
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  1. Sergh
    Sergh 26 May 2012 07: 31
    +31
    The conversation snapped up a long time ago, there were absolutely logical proposals to return censorship and not only radio television, but also to school textbooks and literature, and I’m better off at once. There will be more good than less.
    1. YARY
      YARY 26 May 2012 07: 36
      +22
      SIMILAR !!!! good
      And the life-giving executions of bribe takers and embezzlers will be held without any fuss !!!
      angry
      1. Narkom
        Narkom 26 May 2012 07: 41
        +16
        not just in public, as in China, and even the whole procedure at the expense of the family.
        1. Vadim555
          Vadim555 26 May 2012 14: 13
          +7
          Quote: Ardent
          And life-giving executions of bribe takers and embezzlers pass without any noise !!!

          Quote: Narkom [b
          ] not just in public, as in China, but also the whole procedure at the expense of the family


          First a family, and then a corrupt official.
          Then corruption will lose its meaning. In the name of someone to steal and steal, if a family is shot for your actions.

          PS. I think 2-3 examples will be enough.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 14: 35
            +6
            cruel but right
            treatment sometimes, especially if the disease is neglected, can be painful, but treatment must be
            1. mind1954
              mind1954 28 May 2012 02: 30
              -2
              But again the question arises ?! And who are the judges ???
              Power belongs to the same fascist company,
              traitor thieves from raw materials that lead straight
              our country to the fate of Nigeria! So, first, have to
              with the power of raw material capital in the country to deal with, from
              which, first of all, all the dirt in the country, is actively
              instilled by his fascist proteges, called
              EP and duet !!! After eliminating this cancerous tumor
              the country's health will automatically improve dramatically!
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 07: 46
                0
                Quote: mind1954
                all the same fascist company

                men, it’s interesting when people, before they write and hang nuchat’s tags, at least understand the terminology they use
        2. olegyurjewitch
          olegyurjewitch 26 May 2012 21: 45
          +3
          Quote: Narkom
          not just in public, as in China, and even the whole procedure at the expense of the family.

          China is not a democratic country, no one is looking at them, and all eyes are fixed on Russia, almost as if Russia is strangling the rights of citizens, violating democratic principles.
          Less we look back to the west, we are RUSSIAN, and what is acceptable there is not acceptable here. But our media really need censorship, and not just moral. Russian media, whoever they represent, should primarily support the state and the interests of the people.
          1. Cadet787
            Cadet787 27 May 2012 19: 40
            0
            Something our "democratic" media, very timidly describe the events, the confrontation of the people in the countries of imaginary democracy. People are violently dispersed, worse than the Nazis. This should be shouted at every crossroads, America, NATO is modern fascism on planet Earth. Nemtsov, Navalny, Udaltsov and the hedgehog with them, judged as accomplices of the fascists, or sent to the Pend-sovsky "paradise", there will be no freebies, you will have to earn a living washing dishes, so we will be cleansed of the filth.
      2. Sergeant Air Force
        Sergeant Air Force 27 May 2012 18: 25
        +1
        We need Comrade Stalin. Half to shoot, half to plant. However, you begin to understand it ... Maybe that's why there were so many repressions.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 20: 20
          0
          Quote: Air Force Sergeant
          However, you begin to understand him ...

          I just started to understand the article "about three spikelets" when I saw live what the "people" are doing with the remnants of the economy
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 26 May 2012 07: 41
      +24
      and prohibit buying-selling media!
      And the editors are obliged to annually report to the audience and, on the basis of online voting, the audience should be able to express or refuse to express confidence in the editor, the owner!
      1. Cadet787
        Cadet787 26 May 2012 11: 57
        +5
        I welcome you dear Alibek. Very mature thought and timely, fully support. All this mess is occurring from the absence of any control over the media; your proposal is one of the types of public control.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 26 May 2012 12: 54
          +8
          Dear George!
          I just want the owners and editors to bear at least some sort of responsibility !!
          Here we have the ethers of private television channels are simply littered with cheap music programs, immoral and distant to our mentality programs!
          We have a state structure which, in principle, can fight this, but the law limits them to regret!
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 13: 31
            +6
            then arrange public flogging of vojezhy and editors on the fact of voting, the audience liked to encourage, no, on the frontal place and flog yak sidorov goat
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 26 May 2012 13: 48
              +8
              Vladimir !!
              I agree with both hands for !!
              and after flogging so that they would not have the right to ever work on TV anymore !!))
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 14: 12
                +5
                Well, why, let them work, I think that if it should be flogged, then next year before they put something on the air, they will think about the ass a hundred times
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 26 May 2012 14: 54
                  +6
                  Vladimir !!
                  Then I agree with you !!
                  But to honestly passwords from the heart, and not by pull))
                  1. montemor
                    montemor 26 May 2012 15: 50
                    0
                    Dear, and let's immediately introduce Sharia?
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 15: 57
                      +7
                      in Russia and there are foundations, you can do without borrowing
                      1. alexng
                        alexng 26 May 2012 21: 22
                        -1
                        To put on a stake and it does not matter on hard or fellow The main thing is publicly and without the right of appeal or cassation. am
                      2. chukapabra
                        chukapabra 27 May 2012 09: 53
                        -4
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        in Russia and there are foundations, you can do without borrowing

                        Maybe that's why everything is through w ... y? Maybe it would be worth something good and borrow. These are the tales about a special way, it is the losers from the control who are not able to do nichrome (except for cutting the dough) and how they ask why nothing works. They make a high-minded face and pout, explaining: RUSSIA has a SPECIAL WAY, but is it more realistic to say nothing? There is more truth - it will be easier. From the side it is very noticeable - agitation and articles of a famous person before the election .... actions and accusations of everyone and everything after.
                      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 13: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: chukapabra
                        These are the tales about a special way, it’s precisely the losers from the control that Nichrome cannot do.

                        don’t carry crap, if you will use the principle of sowing grain applicable on Krajina in Siberia you will ruin the crop.
                        you can adopt high technology or chegoynit, the principle of government that is sometimes less than one Russian region and even a completely different mentality will lead to disaster, for example, you know that when designing factories and plants in Ervope, raw materials and spare parts are planned from the 2-hour load , and in the Union there may be a supply of several days or even weeks of work, and so on in everything.
                      4. alexng
                        alexng 28 May 2012 00: 28
                        0
                        All people are divided into two categories: those who divide all people into two categories, and those who do not suffer from such garbage ...
                      5. Sandov
                        Sandov 30 May 2012 22: 39
                        0
                        chukapabra,
                        Only anti-Americanism will save Russia from sworn friends.
                  2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 15: 50
                    +3
                    you can also by pull, ask the parents after their kids after watching the regular "simpsons" they are sent to hell
          2. valton
            valton 26 May 2012 18: 25
            +4
            You can prohibit it. But what about those "Harry" who are above the media ???
      2. chukapabra
        chukapabra 27 May 2012 09: 47
        -4
        More media are needed and truly independent (if this is 100% possible), but the more the better and no censorship. The reader himself will choose what is right and what is not based on different sources and his opinion. Censorship leads to samizdat and rumors (which are immediately believed more than the official infe) In our age with the Internet, censorship is generally not very realistic, therefore there is more free press and journalists. And opinions do not have to be the same and there is nothing to worry about. Only a free person can have an opinion and not be afraid to express it, but this is useless for slaves, and the authorities give them (slaves) only scraps from the table, albeit in monetary terms, at least in informative terms
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 13: 10
          0
          Tell me, is there censorship in the states?
          Quote: chukapabra
          And opinions do not have to be the same.

          Now I ask you to allow pedophilia?
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 30 May 2012 22: 43
          0
          chukapabra,
          It is necessary to stop this stream of lies, hatred, permissiveness and other shit from the west.
    3. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 26 May 2012 07: 45
      +17
      Censorship is a good thing, but in today's democratic world, or rather a country, a problematic business. Freedom of speech is protected by the constitution. Although some constitutional changes can be made by referendum. If censorship had been introduced, I personally would have immediately closed House 2, foreign cartoons, and porn channels. WE ARE RUSSIAN PEOPLE! WE CAN LIVE OUR MIND!
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 26 May 2012 11: 43
        +8
        The introduction of censorship is a simple matter, let's face it, a panacea for those who don't like to think. I am very surprised that people like Yary are willingly and enthusiastically ready to give up freedom of speech, for which their ancestors actually shed their blood (unless, of course, we make the assumption that he is Russian). And all right, he would have censored his own mouth and kept silent, because he also signs everyone around him. If you think about it, censorship is very beneficial to those who are satisfied with the current state of affairs in Russia and who do not want to change anything, such supporters of "stability" who stole money and now they need silence and so that the people do not blather. And by the way, we already have censorship - type on the Internet "a list of materials recognized as extremist" - there you have censorship. Only there they are fighting not with debauchery, but with dissent and patriotism.
        http://pandoraopen.ru/2011-09-04/sionizm-i-uchebnik-mvd/
        Here is an example for whom censorship works now!
        And you gentlemen advocate for it, do you have little censorship? do not worry, our stewards day and night think how else to gag your mouths.
        And the Chernukha and the abomination of the Dom2 and Gum Club type on TV will show as long as the people of Russia hawks these slops! A person’s self-awareness is a product of upbringing, you just don’t need to perceive television as an educator, educate your children yourself. Although it’s difficult to do it now when people like people like GDP, Chubais, Abromovich, Sobchak, etc.

        The introduction of censorship is a simple matter, let's face it, a panacea for those who don't like to think. I am very surprised that people like Yary are willingly and enthusiastically ready to give up freedom of speech, for which their ancestors actually shed their blood (unless, of course, we make the assumption that he is Russian). And all right, he would have censored his own mouth and kept silent, because he also signs everyone around him. If you think about it, censorship is very beneficial to those who are satisfied with the current state of affairs in Russia and who do not want to change anything, such supporters of "stability" who stole money and now they need silence and so that the people do not blather. And by the way, we already have censorship - type on the Internet "a list of materials recognized as extremist" - there you have censorship. Only there they are fighting not with debauchery, but with dissent and patriotism.
        http://pandoraopen.ru/2011-09-04/sionizm-i-uchebnik-mvd/
        Here is an example for whom censorship works now!
        And you gentlemen advocate for it, do you have little censorship? do not worry, our stewards day and night think how else to gag your mouths.
        And the Chernukha and the abomination of the Dom2 and Gum Club type on TV will show as long as the people of Russia hawks these slops! A person’s self-awareness is a product of upbringing, you just don’t need to perceive television as an educator, educate your children yourself. Although it’s difficult to do it now when people like people like GDP, Chubais, Abromovich, Sobchak, etc.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 13: 34
          +9
          Quote: S_mirnov
          If you think about it, censorship is very beneficial to those who are satisfied with the current state of affairs in Russia and who do not want to change anything, such supporters of "stability" who stole money and now they need silence and so that the people do not blather. And by the way, we already have censorship - type on the Internet "a list of materials recognized as extremist" - there you have censorship. Only there they are fighting not with debauchery, but with dissent and patriotism.

          There was a connection between criticism and vulgarity, during the Union there was censorship but there was satire and patriotism, now there is no censorship for that is a comedy club, and patriotism has been ridiculed.
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 27 May 2012 09: 59
            -4
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            under the Union there was censorship but there was satire and patriotism,

            Well, few people believed in fairy tales under the TIME program (very similar to this one) (although there was a contingent that said - it’s all shit outside my window, but it’s far away)
            You know, I’ll probably surprise a certain number of especially advanced experts in the West, but in the West there is freedom of speech, which is combined with both satire and patriotism.
            Well, what about satire in the USSR, I don’t know how old you are, but you could laugh only at what the party allowed. I remember those times well.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 13: 12
              +1
              Quote: chukapabra
              Well, in fairy tales under the TIME program (very similar to now)

              Quote: chukapabra
              I remember those times well.

              means not very much - "once for the car" the homeland "sold"
              1. chukapabra
                chukapabra 27 May 2012 14: 56
                -5
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                means not very much - "once for the car" the homeland "sold"

                rather for hummus, I live in Israel, And the memory of crossing the border does not erase. By the way, unlike many local patriots, I served in the army at least. Therefore, I have no debts.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 17: 09
                  +2
                  who would then yell about censorship, damn their society is free.
                  your peysaty still arrange that censorship, komunyaki rest.
                  in Russia through the back of YOU through what? !!!
                  then women on one side only can walk some kind of crap, wreck everything, knocked down sit at home and now bark with the Arabs
                  1. chukapabra
                    chukapabra 27 May 2012 18: 35
                    -2
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    then women on one side only can walk some kind of crap, wreck everything, knocked down sit at home and now bark with the Arabs

                    What kind of nonsense? And what is the relation to censorship?
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 20: 21
                      +1
                      about censorship, I also gave you an example, but about what kind - your peysaty censor quite high quality
                    2. Sandov
                      Sandov 30 May 2012 22: 49
                      0
                      chukapabra,
                      Here is an example of Zionist delirium, by the way the most rabid Zionists come from Russia, sadly.
            2. speedy
              speedy 27 May 2012 17: 42
              +3
              I also remember - there was no pornography!
          2. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 27 May 2012 10: 57
            +1
            If you think there is no censorship, try publishing an article in a city newspaper about a violation of the constitutional right of Russian citizens about freedom of assembly, or about the choice of specific deputies, not parties.
        2. CC-18a
          CC-18a 26 May 2012 13: 37
          +1
          Quote: S_mirnov
          ready to give up freedom of speech

          What is freedom of speech? is that lying and watering the state and people with mud? AT LEAST ONCE!!?? are these fuckings that hide behind free speech at least once have they told the truth? no! at least once they answered for a lie? no!
          There is no freedom of speech anywhere and she is covered by the scum that farthest from the concept of freedom of speech. This is just about you, by the way.

          Quote: S_mirnov
          censorship is very beneficial for those who are satisfied with the current state of affairs in Russia and who do not want to change anything

          Not true! censorship will suit those who are ready to change things disadvantageous for the people, and if there is no censorship, any negative change will be quickly revealed ... therefore, total censorship in the usa and europe where everything gets worse and worse

          Quote: S_mirnov
          And by the way, we already have censorship - type on the Internet "a list of materials recognized as extremist" - there you have censorship. Only there they are fighting not with debauchery, but with dissent and patriotism.

          am what for patriotism did you see Judas ?!
          You ***** from and people like you too *** you.
          Sites calling for terrorism on the territory of the Russian Federation, for ethnic hatred ... you go to h *** that is to say to your master, completely insolent. Most of you (enemies of Russia) ofigel.

          Quote: S_mirnov
          Although it’s hard to do it now when people like Sobchak and the like are put up as heroes

          You were mistaken, this dog of yours, and now she fell under the censorship and discontent of society, precisely for such statements as yours ... and all the people are glad that she was scoured from everywhere

          YES by the way, for you traitors of Russia, freedom of speech is when they advertise alcohol and smoke to us day and night, when we are hammered into everything that is most immoral ... this is what you and your owners are seeking.

          However, the power that has now introduced censorship by which alcohol advertises a current of a certain% of ether and current after 12 nights! so that children do not see it concerns smoking. Sturdy little dog this horse and business ....
          It remains to bulk Nemtsov and other Judas of traitors to wipe out from the air, even if they are campaigning there in the basements.

          I’m for censorship, I’m for you to be found and planted by the pindoliberal trolls, I’m for a bright and calm future, and it is possible for the current in the absence of you and your master - the United States.
          1. Pablomc
            Pablomc 26 May 2012 13: 54
            -7
            CC-18a,

            From you moron a friend ...
            Gopota filthy ...
            1. CC-18a
              CC-18a 26 May 2012 14: 04
              0
              went to .....
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 14: 14
              +4
              you, too, blinded by intellect
          2. CC-18a
            CC-18a 26 May 2012 14: 06
            +5
            add more.
            http://oko-planet.su/politik/politiklist/118729-rossiya-stanovitsya-posledney-na
            dezhdoy-dlya-teh-kto-ne-vpisalsya-v-demokratiyu-po-amerikanski.html

            Russia can become a center of attraction for all thinking people who feel the need for freedom. Those who can no longer, being in harmony with their own conscience, remain in the context of the informational and ideological totalitarianism that has established itself in their countries.


            Quietly quietly people on this planet, everyone who knows how to think a little bit, begins to understand that the stronghold of freedom is Russia, and the United States is a totalitarian censored police regime.
            1. chukapabra
              chukapabra 27 May 2012 10: 20
              -1
              Quote: CC-18a
              Quietly quietly people on this planet, everyone who knows how to think a little bit, begins to understand that Russia is the bastion of freedom,

              The deepest thought about freedom, a man advocating censorship. And about a free country in which anyone who does not keep up with the EDR and GDP is automatically removed from all mass media and the same mass media in a monotonous burst like knots released from a leash begin to yap and jump in joyful excitement sacrifice, hoping to get the best piece from the owner.
              Quote: CC-18a
              and the USA is a totalitarian censored police regime state.

              Those who haven’t lived in the West will never understand what a truly free press is, what the media have in it virtues for the people and how powerless it is. Today I watched * LET SPEAK * so only after a program (or a boil on the Internet) did they open a criminal case on a resonant accident, only after a boil in the media. But let them say - one of a very small number of programs - which is valid. at the expense of the audience. Now imagine that there are hundreds or thousands of such programs (if in Russia), this government will not hide anywhere. Vlshast - this is what you choose in order to make your life better and be accountable to the voter, and with censorship you will only receive what you will read and listen to)
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 13: 13
                +1
                Quote: chukapabra
                automatically deleted from all media

                examples in the studio or eat a tie
                Quote: chukapabra
                Those who have not lived in the West will never understand what a truly free press is.

                yes who would argue, a bulwark of freedom only in the west
                1. chukapabra
                  chukapabra 27 May 2012 15: 01
                  -4
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  examples in the studio or eat a tie

                  Leonid Parfyonov, Akunin, Same Sobchak (I have few insinuations about her. But while I was leading House 2 and glamorizing, everything was fine, I just hinted at it, immediately disappeared. Or even the authorities are as afraid as I can imagine if in the States Paris Hilton would be so crushed.
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  yes who would argue, a bulwark of freedom only in the west

                  Yes, the West is in many ways an example, and not only in democracy, but also in the prom. production, technical development and medicine including.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 17: 10
                    +1
                    and no one says that you can’t accept ALL, by the way, about medicine you can argue
                    Quote: chukapabra
                    Leonid Parfyonov, Akunin, Same Sobchak

                    do they have ether? !!!!!
                    1. chukapabra
                      chukapabra 27 May 2012 18: 41
                      -1
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      you can argue about medicine

                      What to argue? Who is better? It’s a very bad case, it’s just chronic, you are probably not blind or deaf, most likely you weren’t behind the hill. Sorry.

                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      do they have ether? !!!!!

                      No, damn it, and everywhere, and no one blocked their path to the media? Which farm do you live in?
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 20: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: chukapabra
                        Very bad case

                        how did you get it, no worse and you have bad doctors and we and we have unique quiet technologies and you, the Germans, often go to our region to be treated
                        Quote: chukapabra
                        No, damn it, and everywhere, and no one blocked their path to the media? Which farm do you live in?

                        you don’t take a damn thing, I watched ntm half an hour ago the crowd of opposition verbally stated what it wanted to criticize the new government and neither the cat dispersed them, the great Virgin of Russia always stinks shut up and no one can, a talking horse on a ren TV speaks for a couple with a parfen ren broadcast not all of Russia through h .. I’ve got a cloud of satellites, but about a farm to a point I live on a farm to the nearest village 1 km
                      2. ESCANDER
                        ESCANDER 30 May 2012 22: 29
                        0
                        Zakydon here you have on medicine, dear!
                        Here you take much more than is actually done.
                        What (by the way) has been said more than once (moreover, with you!).
          3. starshina78
            starshina78 26 May 2012 19: 41
            0
            You are deeply mistaken and you are just a model of how people fall under the influence of a certain direction of agitation and propaganda. It is not difficult to prove this. I hope you go shopping in stores, having a car you call at a gas station, pay for housing and communal services, and do you really not see the difference in how inflation is presented to you in news programs on government-controlled channels - 5-6 percent. If you know how to count, you will surely calculate that inflation in 2011 was more than 12-14 percent. This is one of the many examples of how the country's authorities deceive you. From the high rostrum, our leaders declare the enormous success of our industry, but in reality? Most of our plants and factories barely make ends meet, working on machines and equipment made in the USSR, and their friends, relatives, sparring partners, colleagues from their previous work squeeze everything out of these enterprises. From the central channels (controlled by the authorities) you can only hear about how well we live, that in Russia the average salary is around 22 thousand rubles, that we have the best honey in the world. service, education, science, etc. ... Lies of pure water. If in Soviet times I and others who lived and worked at that time had a purpose for which we built, studied, served, now there is no idea other than how to enrich ourselves in any way. The beacon and main promoter of this worthless life is the channel itself - NTV. This channel shows endless black series about cops and bandits, news programs and other films about our modern life cause a feeling of disgust and complete rejection of these programs. Deceit, hypocrisy, chernukha - this is the image of NTV. I am not a supporter of censorship, but at the same time it is necessary, Censorship is needed in order not to broadcast cops full of corpses, blood and nihilism, programs that disfigure the minds of children ("Smeshariki", stupid American cartoons with incomprehensible characters), programs propagandizing violence, CONGRESSES OF UNITED RUSSIA, which cause an emetic effect in people (it was more pleasant to watch the congresses of the CPSU with speeches of the beloved Leonid Brezhnev, there was at least something to laugh at). And one more thing, neither Navalny nor Udaltsov ever and anywhere said that they wanted to bring Russia to collapse and that this was not their ultimate goal, and they did not call for advertising of alcohol and smoke. The goal of the opposition is to achieve fair elections. , the change of power as a result of the same elections, the truth and prosperity of Russia in practice, not on paper.
            1. CC-18a
              CC-18a 27 May 2012 09: 16
              -1
              By the end of your text, I came to the conclusion that you are a fat hamster troll, or a person who is about 14 years old without knowledge and the ability to think adequately and independently who crammed the agitation like a sponge, you did not say a single word from yourself, it means you are either a troll or and ** tAnd in general, I have already written the answer to your text for this troll, I don’t have any brains to write the current copy O_O

              I am deeply right. But you sir didn’t get into the one you wanted, and right now I hope you will understand this without any particular humiliation.
              Quote: starshina78
              I hope you go shopping in stores

              Yes, I go like everyone else, because I know almost all the marketing methods and subconscious mechanisms that marketers use and almost never get deceived and at least act differently from the program of subconscious influence on the consumer.
              Quote: starshina78
              as served to you in news programs

              I don’t watch TV for 2 years already for sure.
              Quote: starshina78
              If you can count, then you’ll probably think that inflation for 2011 was more than 12-14 percent

              I can count, and I was taught this, I got knowledge that allows me to calculate everything I need, while I'm not an excellent crammer, but those rare units that delve into the essence of the matter.
              Therefore, I can easily in cases of which check any statement in the field of micro and macroeconomics. 5-6% is quite possible. 12-14% isn’t if we are about 2011. In general, I will disappoint you, but inflation is quietly quietly leaving to an acceptable 3% and I hope this will be achieved soon by evil hamsters and the west.
              % Inflation is checked simply, we have a Rosstat, so far no one has been able to prove that they are lying ... take the prices for January 2011 and December, all the prices that you have and see the average percentage increase in the price there will be even less than% inflation than the government This is because of the large share of expensive goods like a car and an apartment, yes yes, I’ve already counted and checked everything for a long time and declare that you are lying.
              Quote: starshina78
              This is one of many examples of how the authorities of the country deceive you.

              This is just an example of how you are deceived and are trying to deceive me. Such as you insisted that prices for housing and communal services will rise from the new year, the government has declared that they will not grow, personally, I have 20 people I know confirmed inf. government. And in general, this government, with all its + and - has one main plus is "said - done" very rarely when this does not happen, I compare it with the USA Europe where any statement is 100% nay ****, or with the 90s of the Russian Federation. So I don’t need deception here! Cheating is you and bulk hamsters.
              I’m generally an ordinary person, but most of all I don’t like the lie, and the lie is now pouring the most from the opposition. And you told some of its false aspects to us.
              Quote: starshina78
              From high stands, our leaders declare the tremendous successes of our industry, but in reality?

              I’m personally tired of proving the same thing, I can only say go open your eyes if you think that there is no success then talking to you is nothing like with a 1-month-old baby your abilities will be at this level.
              Quote: starshina78
              Most of our plants barely make ends meet.

              Lies, I live in a city where there are 2 largest factories, in one of them I delved into the service information of an econ. department so what is the situation I know you 1000 times more. So barely barely this is your brain working and the industry rises and rises from year to year. And even in my city they built another 1 plant (it seems to me that the superfluous is already purely human but economical. Appropriate).
              Quote: starshina78
              working on machines and equipment manufactured back in the USSR

              Maybe somewhere it is, in principle it should be so, the machine has a working capacity of 30 years during this period no one changes it, the current after 30 years is looking for a replacement. BUT you didn’t know about it after all, it’s so nice to be stupid and crazy *** but to judge problems you don’t have any knowledge about.
              Nevertheless, from 2004 to 2008, somewhere in the government of the Russian Federation, subsidies were granted to over 300 factories without interest and irrevocable, for the sole purpose that they were re-equipped with machines, in my city this was partially done though the leasing of used machines from Italy, new to us our sworn friends of the Westerners did not allow us to buy. More than 2000 plants received subsidies with no interest return. More than 20000 companies and factories received soft loans with a% rate from 0 to 6%.
              And here you are blathering me for something, insolent!
              I personally remember how you trolls yelled that we have 70% minimum wear and tear on machines and that by 2010 all machines will break ... where are your words in practice? if you say that the government did nothing, why where is the collapse of 2010 ??? оче вы вы вы you for life.
              Quote: starshina78
              that in Russia the average salary is around 22 thousand rubles
              So it is, an average of 22 thousand. It is useless to argue with this, the EU generally considered that we have an average salary of 53 ty. rubles
              Quote: starshina78
              that we have the best honey in the world. service

              this is not said anywhere do not lie, or rather so) do not write what you usually write, that is, lies and misinformation.
              Quote: starshina78
              Lies of pure water

              It can be said current about you and your owners
              Quote: starshina78
              If in Soviet times, I and others who lived and worked at that time had a goal for which we built, studied, served, but now there is no idea but enrich yourself in any way

              And what? who is to blame for this? In addition to the people themselves, NOBODY is even more so Putin who, more than the Communists, returns the USSR to us, the one who does not see this is simply blind. Karoche had nothing to destroy the USSR in the 90s, or the nefig was to stand like a herd without protecting the USSR.
              Quote: starshina78
              worthless life is the very channel - NTV

              NTV - HEROES! I respect them more and more every day, they shot an anti-Soviet and anti-Russian film from the air for which praise and honor were shown to them, they showed everything inside the opposition that everyone knew about but were afraid to say out loud
              NTV well done! and in their programs there is nothing wrong with TNT, for example.
              Quote: starshina78
              On this channel endless black series about cops and bandits are shown, news programs and other films about our modern life evoke a sense of disgust and complete rejection of these programs.
              And here I see that you didn’t write yourself but which thread is an image maker with all the tricks of marketing deception and false fraud)) you can immediately see who your boss is. NTV and Russia NEWS / Russia24 the only objective news;) the rest is nonsense.
              Quote: starshina78
              Falsehood, hypocrisy, Chernukha - this is the image of NTV

              Lies! These words of the current apply to you personally to your owners! Above, everything is painted with a docking base.
              Quote: starshina78
              Censorship is needed in order not to broadcast cops full of corpses, blood and nihilism, programs that disfigure the minds of children ("Smeshariki", stupid American cartoons with incomprehensible characters)

              OK. Here is the current stupid traumatic program for children not on NTV ... but on yours precisely through your pro-Western channels. By the way, on NTV, no, yes, Soviet cartoons show;) and on Russia ... but on TNT and Channel 5 and St. Petersburg, like some kind of channel, you will never see it there.
              Quote: starshina78
              it was more pleasant to watch the congresses of the CPSU with the speeches of the beloved L.I. Brezhnev, there was at least something to laugh at

              Fools, yes, there is something to laugh at. However, a collection of people who decide the fate of the country there should always be naughty not interesting notorious and boring, and even more so not even cause a joke or laugh If you laugh at a meeting where the fate of your country is decided, then either you or the country has a problem. This is an axiom and alas, I’m sure you won’t understand it.
              1. CC-18a
                CC-18a 27 May 2012 09: 18
                -1
                ...
                Quote: starshina78
                And one more thing, neither Navalny, nor Udaltsov ever said anywhere that they want to bring Russia to collapse and this is not their ultimate goal, and they did not call for advertising of alcohol and smoking

                Sometimes I want to scratch turnips like you are liars. Honestly, the whole country knows the statements of the bulk and whose he feeds and whose six but you are such bulk hamsters continue to promote it, the hamsters are stubborn but stupid.
                Navalny, in plain text, declared to bring the Russian Federation to collapse, he stated that his people are rams, he came out in support of a buswright who work in parallel with him, they share a common host. So don’t lie to the hamster here.
                By the way, one of the first things EP did was to ban alcohol ads in the daytime now is not to see ads for alcohol and cigarettes during the day, this is one of the reasons why your hosts don’t see EP like that.
                Quote: starshina78
                Opposition's goal is to achieve fair elections

                They have already passed and honestly. Putin won. Do not triple the opinion of the majority go to ... go west to your masters and do not bother us to live in peace.
                Because of you n *** owls of hamsters, the business in the Russian Federation has lost triads of bucks, you don’t know whether or not it is known, but you are happy with this current 100%. Current for this all of you need to put and not let out until you pay this damage.
                In addition, the purpose of the meetings clearly and not ambiguously shouts bulk Do you misinterpret your master and the hamster? he repeats the immediate resignation of Putin, he repeats in other words - you see the law of the Russian Federation and the constitution you give the country collapse we persecute the president of the Russian Federation whom the people of the Russian Federation chose and put the one whom the host will choose, that is, the United States.

                Quote: starshina78
                the truth and prosperity of Russia in practice, and not on a piece of paper.

                Only the full ones may not notice that the Russian Federation has been flourishing since 2000. Those who do not notice this, I write the text above, those who do not want to perceive it, I send to 3 parties - the United States - rattles - France, live there Judas, try the current then blather. One thing is for sure that you don’t know anything and all you can do is re-paste the agitation of the procurement of pin-trolls
                1. chukapabra
                  chukapabra 27 May 2012 11: 11
                  -3
                  Quote: CC-18a
                  By the way, one of the first things EP did was to ban alcohol ads in the daytime. Now you can’t see alcohol ads and cigarettes during the day.



                  The main producers of vodka in Russia 1/2 2011
                  Analytics / The main producers of vodka in Russia 1/2 2011
                  No. Subsidiary Company (factories) Main brands Main owners Issue in the first
                  half year 2011 of the year
                  (million dal) Share in total
                  vodka production
                  (%)
                  1 CEDC (Topaz, First Blend, Parliament Production, Siberian Distillery) Green Mark, Parliament Prosperity Capital Management, Mark Kaufman, Morgan Stanley
                  5,6 15,5
                  2 Synergy (Traditions of Quality, ALVIZ, Khabarovsk, ROOM, Ussuri Balsam, Uralalko, Mariinsky Distillery) Beluga, Belenkaya Alexander Mechetin, Valentin Zavadnikov 5,1 14,1
                  3 Group of plants of Vasily Anisimov (Moscow Crystal, Yaroslavl distillery, Itkul distillery, Astrakhan distillery, Cherepovets distillery, Smolensky Bahus *) Hello, Golden Ring Vasily Anisimov
                  4,5 12,5
                  4 Siberian alcohol group (Omskvinprom) Five Lakes, Kedrovitsa Andrey Strelets 2,4 6,6
                  5 Tatspirtprom Sterva, Tundra Ministry of land and property of Tatarstan
                  1,8 5,0
                  6 Bashspirt Bashkir standard,
                  Guelder-rose Property of Bashkiria
                  1,5 4,2
                  7 Russian Standard Holding (St. Petersburg Russian Standard Vodka) Russian Standard, Imperia Rustam Tariko
                  0,8 2,2
                  8 Glazovsky distillery Izhevsk gunsmith,
                  Udmurt Republic Ministry of Property of Udmurtia
                  0,7 1,9
                  9 Urzhum distillery Urzhumka, Apollon n/a 0,6 1,7
                  10 Amis (Baikalfarm) Clear Lake, Angaria n / a
                  0,6 1,7

                  Source: Rosstat

                  such as those especially fit into positions 3, 5, 8, 9, 10. Producers or deputies and senators from the EDRO, or simply outright power like the Ministry of Land Property of Tatarstan, the Ministry of Land Property of Bashkiria, the Ministry of Property of Udmurtia
                  Quote: CC-18a
                  Because of you n *** owl hamsters, business in the Russian Federation has lost triads of bucks,

                  Tell me more precisely. The power of GDP made it possible for all of these grandmothers to drain freely over the hill and did not create any conditions for investment within the country.
                  Quote: CC-18a
                  that the Russian Federation has been flourishing since 2000.

                  Life has become better (in 12 years !!!) But is it flourishing? Do not buy grass from strangers. they drive you some nonsense

                  Quote: CC-18a
                  I send on 3 sides - usa - rattles - france

                  Well I say don’t smoke. France and Germany are on the same side.
                  Quote: CC-18a
                  live there judas try current then blather

                  It’s strange. just blather, those who lived there and can compare. far, well, just very far not in Russia's favor.
                  Quote: CC-18a
                  One thing is for sure that you don’t know anything and all you can do is re-paste the agitation of the procurement of pin-trolls

                  Well, it’s just the impression that they don’t let you out of a closed sanatorium, and besides the TIME program, they don’t show anything wassat
              2. chukapabra
                chukapabra 27 May 2012 10: 53
                -2
                Quote: CC-18a
                % Inflation is checked simply, we have a Rosstat, no one so far with all the desire could prove that they are lying.

                Not just and more than once proved that they lie. It is done very simply, the basket of consumption in calculating inflation can be compiled in such a way that you get the numbers you need. It’s like calculating the average temperature in a hospital only by the ward of some eye sockets, and excluding the infectious from statistics.
                Quote: CC-18a
                And in general, this government, with all its + and - has one main plus is "said - done" very rarely when this does not happen.

                Ha ha, even the links lead to laziness, I would have lied so I did not lie

                Quote: CC-18a
                I compare with the usa europe where any application is 100% na ****

                Well, for this, at least there you need to live or speak 9 and not listen to TIME) Hopefully the dedication of what they promised and did not do or did not complete (I certainly do not say everything. true which is covered in the press. this is the difference from the promises of GDP and the government that promised, made. but outside the window everything is different.
                Quote: CC-18a
                I’m generally an ordinary person, but most of all I don’t like the lie and the lie is now pouring the most from the opposition

                Probably from both sides equally, and this is at least. (It's just that GDP has been lying for 12 years) Yes, and there is generally a small difference between the opposition and the government. One post and another does not have one, if one can lie (which is certainly not good), to the government and the president have no such right.

                Quote: CC-18a
                Nevertheless, from 2004 to 2008, somewhere in the government of the Russian Federation, subsidies were granted to over 300 factories without interest and irrevocable, for the sole purpose that they were re-equipped with machines, in my city this was partially done though the leasing of used machines from Italy, new to us our sworn friends of the Westerners did not allow us to buy. More than 2000 plants received subsidies with no interest return. More than 20000 companies and factories received soft loans with a% rate from 0 to 6%.
                And here you are blathering me for something, insolent!

                So I have to kiss their hands, and what are they collecting taxes for?
                Check is difficult. but suppose they got it (I believe that they got it) - what is the result? Outside 2012?
                Quote: CC-18a
                I’m personally tired of proving the same thing, I can only say go open your eyes if you think that there is no success then there’s nothing to talk with you about

                There are successes. why deny reality, but the question is about the amount spent, (you can also heat the stove with money and you won’t argue that there is NO RESULT). For such money, the country could be made rich, and now the question is - where is the money Zin? The oligarchs? And GDP as always on the sidelines? When someone is objectionable to power, within a month he suddenly finds himself in London without a dough (or in prison) so that it is not possible for the GDP to influence the oligarchs - a myth
                Quote: CC-18a
                I personally remember how you trolls yelled that we have 70% minimum wear and tear on machines and that by 2010 all machines will break ... where are your words in practice? if you say that the government did nothing, why where is the collapse of 2010 ??? оче вы вы вы you for life.

                Let's look at it differently, maybe they did, because we screamed. ?
                Quote: CC-18a
                So it is, an average of 22 thousand. It is useless to argue with this, the EU generally considered that we have an average salary of 53 ty. rubles

                Pliz link, or the EU considered on the basis of an objective laughing Rosstat? Or where else did you get the info from?
                Quote: CC-18a
                Karoche had nothing to destroy the USSR in the 90s

                There are a huge number of things that it would be better not to do. but you won’t turn history, you need to think about today.
                Quote: CC-18a
                NTV - HEROES!

                Well, there’s nothing heroic, go and remove by order of the authorities with full support of the power resource. it's easier than conducting an objective investigation. NTV are just prostitutes who have no relation to journalism. Need to disconnect. the only way to punish corrupt (and no matter to whom) channels.
          4. chukapabra
            chukapabra 27 May 2012 10: 08
            -3
            Quote: CC-18a
            You were mistaken, this dog of yours, and now she fell under the censorship and discontent of society, precisely for such statements as yours ... and all the people are glad that she was scoured from everywhere

            There is no censorship of society (there is rejection by society), only power sets censorship
            .
            Quote: CC-18a
            Russian freedom of speech is when we day and night will be advertised in alcohol and smoke, when we will be hammered into everything that is most immoral ... this is what you and your owners are seeking.

            These are the authorities and laws in the field of advertising. By the way, in Russia they drank, are and will be drunk without advertising. Let's not run away from reality. Vodka is so deep in the traditions and minds of the Russians that neither advertising nor violent methods can be beaten or beaten.
            Censorship is bad (with the exception of porn, extremist, etc., is written in the Criminal Code). More freedom. a person should be free and choose what he likes. and what not, without a pointer from above (or so you will change 12 through 6 (VVp-Medved), and after the elections we cry which we doe, we were fucked again. tongue
            1. CC-18a
              CC-18a 30 May 2012 02: 43
              0
              Judging by the fact that you are a stupid troll pin * board or German it does not matter, but Russophobia is still rushing from you.
              Hence the conclusion, all my words are true and useful for Russia.
          5. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov 27 May 2012 11: 18
            -2
            Finally I was unban and I can answer you, citizen of the SS-sheep!
            "What is freedom of speech? Is that lying and throwing mud at the state and the people"
            Freedom of speech is to openly express your views, with us it has remained only on the Internet. criticism of a corrupt government - is pouring mud on only corrupt officials, so they yell!
            2. "censorship will suit the current of those who are ready to change the state of affairs and to a side disadvantageous for the people"
            So we are talking about the same thing, censorship is beneficial to those who rob the people of our country! So that people do not resent the real state of affairs and watch ORT - only good news!
            http://demotivation.me/cujl2drzd0ispic.html
            3 "Sites calling for terrorism on the territory of the Russian Federation"
            Here is an example of a site recognized as extremist, where is terrorism?
            http://avn.armiavn.com/
            I think the terrorists - those who do not allow a referendum, i.e. free expression of will of citizens.
            4. "You were mistaken, this dog is from yours, and now she came under censorship."
            No dear Ssovets, let's remember who Ksenia’s dad remembered? Former head of GDP. Together they stole money in St. Petersburg in the 90s.
            http://video.yandex.ru/#search?text=%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B2%D1%8C%D
            1%8E%20%D0%A1%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B5&where=all&id=30342059-07-12
            From there is Ksenia’s wealth, because she didn’t earn her money herself. Ksenia’s participation in the protest movement will only turn people away from him, so this one hundredth creature is from your brethren, a direct product of the era of GDP.

            And now about television
            "YES, by the way, for you traitors to Russia, freedom of speech is when they advertise alcohol and smoke to us day and night, when they drum into us all the most immoral ... you and your owners are trying to achieve this"
            Let’s look who owns television in Russia wink who advertises alcohol and serves America?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TtgIHh5gvU
            and who commands them
            http://demotivation.me/ugc5qokl6ffbpic.html
            Now tell everyone who actually serves America and who is a traitor to the homeland?
            Can you start ...
            P / S If I do not answer, then again banned!
            1. CC-18a
              CC-18a 30 May 2012 02: 58
              -1
              Quote: S_mirnov
              Freedom of speech is to openly express your views, with us it has remained only on the Internet. criticism of a corrupt government - is pouring mud on only corrupt officials, so they yell!

              Don’t lie, the fact that you are not smart, to put it mildly, doesn’t give you the right to goof and trick.

              How many of the tens of thousands of rally participants are currently in prison? but no one, except the most inveterate idiots like bulk and tyutyukin. But they all carried such diarrhea to the government that they just need to be planted humanly for a period of 1-2 years

              And how many are sitting in a truly "luminary of freedom"? more than 300 people, with more than 15 sentenced to a term of 2 or more years.

              In England, all the activists were transplanted and they spat on your freedom and crap.

              Quote: S_mirnov
              So we are talking about the same thing, censorship is beneficial to those who rob the people of our country! So that people do not resent the real state of affairs and watch ORT - only good news!

              Our country? we live in different countries, I am in Russia and you are in a pin * dosiya, you have no right to call Russia your country, truncated the troll of figs? Yes, and I'm tired of repeating to you the trolls change the training manual! we have no ORT in Russia! you have a pin * dosii training manual is outdated!

              Quote: S_mirnov
              Here is an example of a site recognized as extremist, where is terrorism there? Http: //avn.armiavn.com/I will help the terrorists - those who do not allow a referendum, i.e. free expression of citizens

              Go to .... trollin, on this list sites such as the Caucasus center or like it, where Caucasians are urged to cut Russians, the site sits on the US domain and is served by the likes of you and your hosts.


              Quote: S_mirnov
              No dear Ssovets, let's remember who Ksenia’s dad remembered? Former head of GDP. Together they stole money in St. Petersburg in the 90s. From there is Ksenia’s wealth, because she didn’t earn her money herself. Ksenia’s participation in the protest movement will only turn people away from him, so this one hundredth creature is from your brethren, a direct product of the era of GDP.

              If she is "twinned" with Putin, then why is she in disgrace? that something does not stick, or do you think bloody Putin suddenly became not bloody and not a dictator at all has his own will and cannot push through and protect his own? O_O
              Mdee ... with the logic of all trolls, the big problems !!!

              Quote: S_mirnov
              And let's look at who owns television in Russia, who advertises alcohol and serves America?

              It doesn’t matter, it’s much more important that the power under Putin removed the advertisement of alcoholic drinks and smoking from daytime broadcast so that the children would not see this admittedly. This is important and not your speculation sucked them x ... Obama

              Quote: S_mirnov
              Now tell everyone who actually serves America and who is a traitor to the homeland?

              If Putin serves America, then why does America so hate him? O_O
              Why is it that everyone who serves America has humpbacked Yushchenko and Yeltsin loves America and Putin doesn’t ... it’s not logical, then why should America spend a bucks of dollars to overthrow Putin’s legitimate authority if he serves them ...
              Well I don’t know ... current and rams can believe in your fairy tale
        3. alexng
          alexng 26 May 2012 21: 34
          0
          And what is the difference between freedom of speech and permissiveness, i.e. vulgarity and anarchy. Duc so it is possible to allow porn on the main media channels. As long as there is no education and self-discipline, permissiveness is dangerous, first of all, for those who are for this permissiveness, since at the same time extremist groups come to power and crack down, and physically with those who allowed this permissiveness. This is constantly proved by the history of mankind, and at all times. But the rake of permissiveness does not teach anything "pseudointelligence". This is probably the kind of karma they have, constantly in the face of carp to receive from generation to generation.
      2. 703-s
        703-s 26 May 2012 11: 45
        +4
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        1. nitro
          nitro 26 May 2012 11: 56
          +12
          Funny people, however, are not talking about how to put things in order in their country - so that this "negative" does not exist at all, but they call for censorship - so that no one would know anything lol
          - The plane fell with dozens of victims - silence! Everything is fine with us!
          - The submarine drowned - silence, everything is wonderful!
          - another countless terrorist attack took place in the center of Moscow - silence, everything is wonderful - no one saw anything!
          - Dozens of children poisoned in kindergarten - silence, fart and everything will pass!
          - there are regular coffins from the North Caucasus - silence, let's better admire the Americans from Afghanistan!
          - exchanges crashed - silence, in America, homeless people are unhappy with the number of laptops they have!
          And so on all topics! When will this Suslovian-Surkov MARAZM end in today's time of digital technologies and the Internet ?! fool
          1. Oleg0705
            Oleg0705 26 May 2012 12: 05
            -4
            nitro GB Today, 11:56 AM

            In a lot of knowledge, a lot of sadness.
            1. Joker
              Joker 26 May 2012 13: 22
              +1
              Oleg, do you propose to follow the path of the USA? They also have birds singing and flowers blooming, there is no negative at all, because they don’t know the situation in their country, they are simply zombified with good pictures. News is needed, but reliable news is needed, and not with links to anonymous sources and not articles written by pseudo-analysts, but for such misinformation one must be held responsible.
              1. Oleg0705
                Oleg0705 26 May 2012 13: 49
                -6
                Joker RU Today, 13:22 PM


                not necessarily we have an example of the USSR
              2. chukapabra
                chukapabra 27 May 2012 11: 17
                -4
                Quote: Joker
                Oleg, do you propose to follow the path of the USA? They also have birds singing and flowers blooming, there is no negative at all, because they don’t know the situation in their country, they are simply zombified with good pictures

                Have you ever been to the States? Maybe talked with the Americans? Generally abroad (except Turkey and Egypt was?)
                Quote: Joker
                News is needed, but reliable news is needed, and not with links to anonymous sources and not articles written by pseudo-analysts, but for such misinformation one must be held responsible.

                In the news in the states there is infa (maybe not everyone who knows everything at all?) But diverse and each event is covered by several commentators and from different positions. The Americans are not zombied. they just have different preferences - Family, work, money, then for a long time there is nothing, then again family, well, maybe politics is in 120th place or where is Russia on the globe.
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 13: 47
            +2
            Quote: nitro
            just nobody knew anything

            there is a feeling that some people read but don’t understand the meaning of what they read, and why trifle and let’s lift all prohibitions altogether, and on pedophilia and porn, dudes can figure it out
          3. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 17: 13
            +1
            Quote: nitro
            A plane with dozens of victims crashed - silence! Everything is fine with us!

            they stupidly froze, during the union the planes crashed but didn’t yell like it was stung in one place and the former biology successors did not discuss the causes of the accident, and EVERY flyers discussed and explained the case to each flyer, I know not by hearsay that the guy was flying, but about the dog a smart view will talk about the causes of the accident there is no sense no logic
            Quote: nitro
            dozens of children poisoned in kindergarten - silence, fart and everything will pass!

            if you don’t know less carry garbage, don’t bring such a state manager, it happened that your heads flew to the right and to the left, if you didn’t shout about it it doesn’t mean you let it go
        2. Oleg0705
          Oleg0705 26 May 2012 12: 00
          -8
          Another ideological sabotage, according to the singing channel, I’m even 100% sure that this is someone else's PAID order.
          1. yards
            yards 26 May 2012 12: 39
            +11
            Oleg0705,
            well, you made me laugh, buddy, and also the local "general" laughing
            The girl shown in the photo is Anastasia Fomenko from the Ukrainian town of Pavlograd, who appeared at the prom in a similar "outfit"! By the way, her mother is a teacher in the same school!
            The level of your awareness and work with information on the Internet is sad laughing And the photo, definitely, the CIA "ordered" laughing
            By the way, he enters Zhurfak in Dnepropetrovsk.
            Many people on the site do not even understand for themselves what they write in general!
            Need to work on yourself, friends good
            1. Oleg0705
              Oleg0705 26 May 2012 12: 50
              -5
              Yard NL Today, 12:39

              Hon. I know that in Ukraine, but it was shown in Russia through the first state channel. And I'm glad for you that even though you understand what you are writing. They flashed intellect in their bosoms. They would be bored without people like you. Are you probably one of the mass media entertainers on the site? smile Only with logic is weak, but this is something you will gain when you also overcome.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 26 May 2012 14: 01
                +1
                I’m glad that at least we don’t dare to show it on local channels, but there is a cable for a long time !!
              2. yards
                yards 26 May 2012 16: 10
                +2
                Oleg0705,
                buddy, you, being a local "major general" - that is, a local authority and an old-timer, absolutely not owning the question - submitted a photo and gave your "comment" making yourself a common laughing stock!
                Do you even look at yourself from the outside!
                I repeat to you again: the photo is NOT a CIA and Mossad provocation against the worldview of citizens from the "USSR", but a photo created and posted on the Internet by an "organized criminal group" consisting of 2 17-year-old girls (one in the photo, the other photographed ), the parents of the model and the milliner who made this prom dress to order! The place of action is the 15th school of the city of Pavlograd, Dnipropetrovsk region of Ukraine! The goal is to promote a girl who wants to become a model, just!

                Now do you even understand what you’ve got into, and how do you personally now look ridiculous? laughing
                Now there are questions to all your comments, doubts about their professionalism and knowledge of the issue under discussion, and in the comments of other "local" generals!
                An entertainer is you, just trying to comment on something - which you absolutely do not know! So it is clear, I hope? lol
                1. Vadim555
                  Vadim555 26 May 2012 17: 29
                  -1
                  Quote: yardie
                  I repeat once again: in the photo NOT PROVOCATION of the CIA and the Mossad against the worldview of citizens from the "USSR", and a photo created and launched on the Internet by an "organized criminal group" consisting of 2 17-year-old girls (one in the photo, the other photographed), the parents of the model and the milliner who made this dress for the prom!


                  No, of course, not the CIA.
                  But, with the filing of the West, there is a spiritual degradation of youth, and the performers are already local.

                  Quote: yardie
                  The goal is to promote a girl who wants to become a model, just!


                  The model, by and large, from a prostitute, is not only the size of the fee.
                  If this happens with us, then the Dulles plan works.

                  Quote: yardie
                  Now do you even understand what you’ve got into, and how do you personally now look ridiculous?
                  Now there are questions to all your comments, doubts about their professionalism and knowledge of the issue under discussion, and in the comments of other "local" generals!


                  Your private opinion, has the right to be. But nothing more.
                2. Oleg0705
                  Oleg0705 26 May 2012 19: 18
                  -2
                  Quote: yardie
                  buddy,


                  Friend, God forbid, of course, look for a fool? So look in the mirror. I do not respect flattery either, I am not an authority and did not guard, there is much more authority than I, I am convinced of this. At the same time, I get the impression that in your youth you drank Coca-Cola and ate Chubachubs. For me personally and for many others, this is a provocation, and not PR, as you write to youngsters, which they have advertised in all the media and on state television. Do not be so cruel, and do not litter the brains of your nonsense with others, unless of course this is not your work for which you are paid, then everything is clear you are a provocateur and an enemy. Perhaps I am ridiculous for people like you, but I will survive this, they swam not as it happened. Now about komenty and professionalism, unlike you, I do not work here, I just communicate with visitors to the site, exchange opinions and, expressing my current of view on any issue, therefore, we are going here to clarify for ourselves the incomprehensible.
                  Special thanks to those who covered me in my absence.
                3. olegyurjewitch
                  olegyurjewitch 26 May 2012 22: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: yardie
                  Venue 15th school of the city of Pavlograd, Dnipropetrovsk region of Ukraine! The goal is to promote a girl who wants to become a model, just!

                  Dude, PR at school needs knowledge and not bare thighs. It doesn’t matter whether she becomes a model or not, and that neither her mother nor she herself has the brains - a fact.
            2. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 26 May 2012 13: 30
              +1
              Quote: yardie
              The girl shown in the photo is Anastasia Fomenko from the Ukrainian town of Pavlograd, who appeared at the prom in a similar "outfit"! By the way, her mother is a teacher in the same school!


              Dad, a fire officer, personally brought the girl to the prom and took pictures with her (there are photos on social networks). By the way, she (A. Fomenko) was invited by some well-known agency to become a model. Maybe we are "old men" behind the youth? Once the mini and bikini were also "avant-garde", but now the top of chastity lol
          2. Joker
            Joker 26 May 2012 13: 23
            +5
            I read about this girl, her parents are perplexed why everyone reacted so negatively to her, as they say an apple from an apple tree does not fall far laughing
            1. Darn
              Darn 26 May 2012 18: 20
              -1
              In my opinion, the act of this girl is not worth discussing. Not interesting news. Well, it's hot for her.
            2. speedy
              speedy 27 May 2012 18: 40
              0
              It seems that they are going to dismiss the mother of this girl by the decision of the local executive committee, however, she might be hushed up due to the resonance ...
          3. Hleb
            Hleb 26 May 2012 14: 46
            +11
            ideological diversion

            1. Oleg0705
              Oleg0705 26 May 2012 14: 56
              -7
              Gleb RU Today, 14:46

              somehow warps, don’t you? could explain. What is the comic?
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 26 May 2012 15: 12
                +4
                Respected Ataturk recently gave very good advice-"take care of your heart, smile more"
                it’s a shame that these young people are, but I won’t worry about such moments to the detriment of myself, undermine my health because of them, so I try to make friends with humor wink (not jarring)
                1. Oleg0705
                  Oleg0705 26 May 2012 15: 20
                  -6
                  Gleb RU Today, 15:12

                  I understand you, thanks for the answer.
              2. 703-s
                703-s 26 May 2012 17: 29
                +3
                Oleg0705
                You are watching TV?
                are you watching the first channel?
                well you made fun !!!!!

                remember Professor Preobrazhensky with his remark to the newspapers.
                it is fully compatible with current television !!!
                1. Oleg0705
                  Oleg0705 26 May 2012 19: 21
                  -5
                  only news, but how else?
        3. Hleb
          Hleb 26 May 2012 20: 47
          +4
          Here, too, on the topic, each channel has its own view of what is happening
      3. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 26 May 2012 11: 50
        0
        Tronin, the constitution is guaranteed to you a fool! so freedom is so unnecessary for you that you are ready to change the constitution? Do not worry, they will change it without you, or rather they have already changed! And it is inappropriately for the Russians to sign that they do not need freedom. Strong people are not afraid of freedom!
      4. Joker
        Joker 26 May 2012 13: 19
        +5
        Maxim, here I think the matter is not even censorship, it is just necessary that the media be responsible for what they post on the news and show on TV, i.e. you posted inaccurate information from an anonymous source, and it’s complete bullshit, just to attract the audience with something terrible, such as the news that Putin will do his own army, or how the opposition spread about a pregnant woman, and some picked up the media, here for such a blatant lie, it is necessary to bear responsibility, and criminal, this is an article of fraud, because they use the deliberately false information to attract viewers and get paid for it. All sorts of house 2 and the rest of the rubbish show after 12 night. Freedom of speech is good, no one forbids you to say what you think, but you need to answer for defamation and deceit.
      5. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 13: 32
        +3
        I would have closed the field of miracles
        1. 703-s
          703-s 26 May 2012 17: 32
          0
          Vasilenko Vladimir
          maybe it’s easier not to turn on the TV? laughing
          everyone spits, criticizes the manure coming from the "zomboyaschik" and .....
          keep watching!
          Is this not idiocy?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 18: 03
            +1
            you either play a fool or really don’t understand, TV is only part of the problem, you eat in the minibus, hear the radio - there is vulgarity from there, listen to music from friends - vulgar preposterous things like "I'm pregnant, this is temporary", etc.
            I didn’t ask for nothing what the opponent shaves, there are enceclopedias and textbooks, and there are porn magazines, this is not a reason to prohibit printing, this is an occasion to filter sales of these products to a child’s textbook and can, but there’s no porn magazine
            1. 703-s
              703-s 26 May 2012 18: 18
              +1
              Vasilenko Vladimir
              I do not watch TV.
              I watch a movie online, which I want.
              I’m listening to my favorite music on my headphones.
              specially looked with the child dom2, commenting on this idiocy.
              take care of your loved ones. instill in them taste and manners.
              otherwise you just whine! talk with your children, live their life. rather than sit with a beer bottle on the TV.
              and then they will not be afraid of all this!

              PS: but you raise the problem correctly.
              but address it to Putin’s adherents.
              the current government does not need smart people, but a controlled one.
              to whom give bread and circuses.
              and nothing more.
              There is a special deception and soldering of the people.
              25 million will be enough to service the oil pipe.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 20: 52
                +2
                Quote: 703
                I watch a movie on-line as I want. I listen to my favorite music on headphones

                you’re funny either you don’t really understand, I repeat once again, the culture is omnipresent - it’s also Barbie and the radio on the street or on the bus (just don’t have to carry a blizzard that you don’t travel by public transport, it can be anywhere) the child communicates not only with you but also with peers and your opinion will not always be dominant, etc. etc.

                once again I will give the simplest example - for some reason we limit it to PORNOGRAPHY, but you can answer with your first lines
        2. chukapabra
          chukapabra 27 May 2012 11: 20
          -3
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          I would have closed the field of miracles

          Judging by the face of Yakubovich, he is the same, but the people hawala. rating-rating.
    4. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 13: 30
      +7
      Recently I have been trying to turn on the radio in the car only when I switch on the news or switch to music channels, it is no longer possible to listen to these presenters, even when the topic of discussion is necessary and interesting, all one will lead to "f ..." and sex
      1. Darn
        Darn 26 May 2012 18: 24
        +4
        And I have a telly on the refrigerator, I forgot when I turned it on.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 20: 52
          +2
          radio, advertising on the streets of the newspaper, in addition, this fooling is designed not for one but for the masses
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 27 May 2012 15: 09
            -3
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            radio, advertising on the streets of the newspaper, in addition, this fooling is designed not for one but for the masses

            Exactly 2 posts ago, you enthusiastically told how you listen only to the news on the radio. You are the first of the duped, but not the only one. Congratulations on the start of the era of stagnation. Another 12 years and GDP will catch Brezhnev !!!!
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 17: 19
              +1
              to begin with, we did not drink swami on broodshafts, you’ll poke a neighboring Arab
              Further, what is stuck in the fact that I am listening to the news or are you not listening to the news? !!!!
              are you all Jews with a fool or through one ?!
              Quote: chukapabra
              Congratulations on the start of the era of stagnation. Another 12 years and GDP will catch Brezhnev !!!!

              Thank you, then you can drag a little less
      2. chukapabra
        chukapabra 27 May 2012 15: 06
        -3
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        I recently tried to turn on the radio in the car only when the news

        Tener understand where the dog rummaged. listen to the news more, they will teach you good, the main thing is not to think . People hawala. Bravo to the zombie man.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 17: 20
          +1
          that is, if I'm interested in the news then do you think this is? !!!!
          besides the radio, I watch no several info channels including euronews and, unlike the pacey ones, I can filter and figure it out
    5. Fox 070
      Fox 070 27 May 2012 00: 53
      -1
      Quote: Sergh
      there were proposals to return censorship and not only radio television

      Hello Sergey! It would be very helpful to return censorship, but no matter how we would not like it to be returned in its purest form, we could try the system that exists on our website: it was fined - ban. For the first time disconnect from the air for a day, the second time for a month, etc. to a complete shutdown. And create a special site where you can vote. And democratic and TV under control. And most importantly, that no one can reproach for the lack of freedom of speech.
      1. chukapabra
        chukapabra 27 May 2012 15: 10
        -1
        Quote: Fox 070
        Hello Sergey! It would be very helpful to return censorship, but no matter how much we would not want it to be returned in its purest form,

        Sick people with slave consciousness. wassat
        Have you really gone? Who has the right to filter information. I myself and only myself have to decide where the truth is and where the lies are, what suits me and what does not. There is my personal opinion and only mine and I do not need to impose someone else's (limiting information and censorship), I myself will decide what is good and what is bad. I am a free man and I want to decide for myself, and not for power. who fools and zombies anyone. I and only I decide, and if my neighbor thinks differently, it is his right, all people are different and must remain that way, but if you want the same people, in Sev. Korea pliz.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 17: 25
          +3
          Quote: chukapabra
          Who has the right to filter information


          22.03/00 56:XNUMX: AROUND IRAQ: CENSOR ON THE ISRAELI INTERNET HAS BEEN TIGHTENED

          On Wednesday, Israel’s chief military censor, Rachel Dolev, sent a very categorical letter to Israeli news sites - sensationalist lovers: journalists were urged to obtain government permission before they set out to publish "materials that could endanger the security of the state of Israel and its inhabitants."

          Ms. Dolev strictly forbade the employees of Israeli websites, in particular, Rotter.net and Fresh.co.il, to publish information regarding the places of the explosion of rockets, as well as the intentions of the Israeli cabinet to cooperate with other governments, for example, the United States.

          According to Ms. Dolev, the editors of Internet sites should be contacted by official censorship representatives in Tel Aviv and Jerusalem before publishing any information.

          “In addition,” the letter said, “censorship centers will operate around the clock at the Israeli Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem and at the David Intercontinental Hotel in Tel Aviv. You can also contact them. ”

          According to prosecutor Boaz Guttman, a large influx of visitors is expected on Israeli websites.

          “Jews from all over the world will come to them,” says Mr. Guttman. - And in our crazy country, news on websites appears much faster than in the official media. Here you have both video and photographs that are still unknown when they will show on television. ”

          Mr. Guttman claims that official Israeli censorship first approached online journalists with this kind of instruction. “Laws are known to all,” says Guttman. “If you want to publish something, know how to prevent a leak.”
          Quote: chukapabra
          I am a free man and I want to decide myself, not power

          Apparently the hell has put on you your priestly power
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 27 May 2012 18: 56
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Ms. Dolev strictly forbade the employees of Israeli websites, in particular, Rotter.net and Fresh.co.il, to publish information regarding the places of the explosion of rockets, as well as the intentions of the Israeli cabinet to cooperate with other governments, for example, the United States.

            Well, what are you filtering the info? A lover of censorship (although this is understandable) Why did not indicate that it wasabout during the war and it’s forbidden to publish the places where the rockets fell, so that they wouldn’t correct the blows, as well as about cooperation between the two states during the war. This is war (if you understand what it is) and of course there is information of defense significance. This is all that you dig about censorship in Israel, well, I’ll add, besides the military censor, there is a police censor (forbidding the same media to publish details of crimes under investigation ) But nowhere is there a censorship on the part of the authorities, and the prohibitions on publishing only through the courts.
            When it comes to the country's defense capability up to 25 years and above (a ban on publications), the police (if it does not apply to undercover agents or information that could reveal the names of children (as persons under the age of 18) or harm innocent people - up to several years, for crimes - before filing a case with the prosecutor’s office (maximum) Details of cases of divorce proceedings are prohibited from publication, as well as from the adoption of children.
            There is no other, especially opposition or something like that. In general, everyone says where he wants, what he wants --- even over the heels.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 27 May 2012 20: 55
              +1
              pussy so you will mom
              Quote: chukapabra
              In general, everyone says where he wants, what he wants --- even too much

              yeah, if someone just tries to come up with a POSSIBLE decrease in the numbers of your invented Holocaust, they will be given both airtime and newspaper strips and everything else, stop dumped sit in your Middle East and wait until the amers surrender you, then you will have a big zizdets and dream.
              in addition, I would advise you to inquire about the "Uzbek" scandal and how the representative of the freest country behaved in it

              http://www.imw.org.il/russian/article.php?id=326
              ... The problem begins with the fact that everything that I wrote cannot be said in the state of Israel. Yes, you heard right. From the point of view of the law, perhaps this is not prohibited, but the truth cannot be said in the Israeli media. This is an unwritten law, but Israeli journalists - reporters and editors - are well aware that when covering the areas of the Negev, Galilee and cities with a mixed population, one cannot talk about the systematic and organized violence of Israeli Arabs against Jews ......

              PS I treated Jews very well until I began to communicate with them
              1. chukapabra
                chukapabra 28 May 2012 07: 42
                0
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                reporters and editors - it is well known that when covering the areas of the Negev, Galilee and cities with a mixed population, we can not talk about the systematic and organized violence of Israeli Arabs against Jews ......

                Bullshit, and complete. The only thing that Arabs are not called Arabs, but representatives of the national minority say. But this is political correctness no more. Everything is written about everything. About the Holocaust only for such ombuds as you may have doubts, in Israel there are no doubts about this, here 80% of families or all relatives died in the camps, or units survived. I still see old people with numbers on their hands.
                Freak. you are moral - citizen Vasilenko.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 07: 50
                  0
                  Quote: chukapabra
                  As for the Holocaust, only such ombuds as you may have doubts, there is no doubt about this in Israel, here 80% of families or all relatives died in the camps, or only a few survived. I still see old people with numbers on their hands. you are moral - citizen Vasilenko.

                  which was to prove that you don’t get out of business; mathematical calculations were all one by one and all even since the age of 45 several times reduced the number of all 6 million and not a person less, you even write a code that 80% of ALL relatives did not die realize that this
                  1. chukapabra
                    chukapabra 28 May 2012 08: 05
                    +1
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    mathematical calculations do not obsolete you

                    Did you generally read your post? Some kind of incoherent set of words, learn to express an idea even if it’s argumentative. And you can put your calculations in ...., there have always been and will be * Jewish lovers * who will competently prove what they did not think. and as for the general numbers, I did not count, I do not know. But for me the piano does not play it was 5 million, 6 or 7 or 3. It was, and we will never forget it.
                    Count your dead and take care of your veterans. In the wrong hands, horseradish is always thicker, so citizen Vasilenko ?. Jews do not give rest? It’s hard to explain, there are only 6 million of us (in Israel). And the area is smaller than Moscow, and you have something to study and learn. Make what we have, from science, medicine and to the army Envy, the most serious sin. wassat
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 09: 19
                      -1
                      peysaty I um already said that you will poke mom? !!!
                      learn to politely communicate grace please no ....
                      Quote: chukapabra
                      Jews do not give rest?

                      Yes, no one needs you if you didn’t run with your chosenness, no one would notice you
                      Quote: chukapabra
                      Achieve what we have, from science, medicine to the army Envy, the worst sin

                      well, where are we goyim
                      Quote: chukapabra
                      It was

                      a moot point but you can’t discuss it, probably because freedom of speech
                      Holocaust through the eyes of Sherlock Holmes

                      R. Dommerg Polacco de Menas
                      (a Jew who does not like the idea of ​​totalitarian judopathy)

                      "FINAL CONFLICT". Issue 884
                      http://macbion.narod.ru/war/holokost-2.htm
                    2. ESCANDER
                      ESCANDER 30 May 2012 22: 02
                      0
                      Nobody envies you, where did you get it? You have an ancient history, but a young and unstable state, a lot of enemies, including directly on the border. An ambiguous story. Bias. Centuries-old Persecution, Holocaust ...
                      God forbid this is achieved ...
                2. ESCANDER
                  ESCANDER 30 May 2012 22: 16
                  0
                  It's kind of silly to talk about the "invented Holocaust."
                  There are archives and newsreels of both the Nazis and the warring parties.
                  There is no gain, no decrease, in my opinion.
                  Even in the USSR recognized.
        2. Fox 070
          Fox 070 28 May 2012 02: 15
          -1
          Quote: chukapabra
          Have you really gone?

          Hey, nemchura, did you mix anything up? It feels like drooling from your post. Calm down, otherwise you won't wipe yourself off. Do you read your writings yourself? Five lines use "I" ten times. "to me". "my". This is a clinic and will you still call me sick? Drink valerian and get into a warm bath. Hysterical.
          1. chukapabra
            chukapabra 28 May 2012 07: 49
            0
            Quote: Fox 070
            Five lines use "I" ten times. "to me". "my"

            Of course, I, MY ME, but how else? My opinion is important to me, I decide (and not for me), and I don’t have different ideas promoters of ideas. I myself want and will decide what is good and what is bad, and not different bureaucrats who will decide which info to give me and which not.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 09: 34
              +1
              Quote: chukapabra
              I myself want and will decide what is good and what is bad

              it is called pride
              Quote: chukapabra
              what info to give me

              which one they will give and shaw, but at the same time you will proudly inflate your cheeks pretending to have chosen
            2. Fox 070
              Fox 070 28 May 2012 12: 00
              0
              Quote: chukapabra
              My opinion matters to me

              Apparently it’s important only to you, well, I would have sat with my opinion and sniffed slowly into their holes.

              Quote: chukapabra
              I decide

              Decide how much will fit, only do not bite people, otherwise you will have to inject injections from rabies.
              In general, it is surprising that the smaller and worthless the little man, the more ambitions he has, and self-conceit grows to heaven. You clown who said that you watch free television? fool laughing laughing laughing
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 07: 51
            0
            Quote: Fox 070
            Hey nemchura

            gosopdin lives south in israel
            1. Fox 070
              Fox 070 28 May 2012 12: 04
              0
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              gosopdin lives south in israel

              Thanks for the tip, Vladimir. This, apparently, is one of the perestroika emigrants. That's what I see that he is already jumping out of the skin.
  2. Pinochet000
    Pinochet000 26 May 2012 07: 44
    +9
    Article plus is unambiguous! All these programs of the "let them talk" type alone are worth something. I agree with the author about the fact that they want to make lumpen out of our children and, but not only. One more goal is being pursued, the people must realize their own worthlessness .... Even from the country's leadership (in my opinion, Putin) on TV I heard such phrases: "Every nation deserves its government" or "the Russian gene pool is destroyed" (undermined). And this is the imposition of slave psychology. my opinion. Russians wake up!
  3. apro
    apro 26 May 2012 07: 46
    +6
    they remembered something about the power in 1991, in August they didn’t remember, and then got upset. With the losers they do what they wanted, the USSR didn’t want to defend us, now there is no one to protect us. confront. the new old president is not clear at all.
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 26 May 2012 07: 48
    +14
    Close the 2 house, deprive the dog of his citizenship and send him out of the country. As for the bukhalava, they began to drink less, at least as far as we have. Culture is tempting, it wasn’t the telly that brought me up, when I was 21 the year I didn’t watch the telly. If a person is brought up, he will not watch the 2 house.
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 26 May 2012 07: 55
      +5
      You tell this to modern youth!
      1. alexander hjcnjd
        alexander hjcnjd 26 May 2012 10: 04
        -2
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        You tell this to modern youth!
        and it’s fun. What all of it was so good and as soon as the union fell apart everyone began to cut each other. Our generation is much better than yours, even if a larger percentage thinks with their own heads. The paths have won due to older generations who have lived for 20 years a fictional country which is not and never was.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 26 May 2012 10: 18
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
          all this was so good, and as soon as the union fell apart everyone began to cut each other. Our generation is much better than yours, even if only a large percentage think with their own heads.
          And why is “your” generation surprisingly better for everyone and everything than mine?
          Judging by House -2, you can see how wide your horizons are, dear one. And "your" (I do not mean all the youth), and in particular the part to which you disrespect yourself (the generation of consumers are not creators), thinks not with his own head, but with the head of the one who infuses you with thoughts that are pleasing to him through the means MASS MEDIA.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 May 2012 11: 11
            +7
            Hi victor, brains form after xnumx years. The Germans think for him. Send it in 25, I would pray on Putin.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 26 May 2012 11: 48
              +3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Hi victor, brains form after xnumx years.

              Alexander, hello! I’ll just add to your post: WHEN THEY ARE AVAILABLE.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 16: 02
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
          .Our generation is much better than yours.

          you can undo it with your own words
          Quote: Alexander Hjcnjd
          and fanare

          how old are you and who do you work for or where do you study?
    2. 3412
      3412 27 May 2012 17: 23
      +2
      Alexander Romanov House 2 close, Putin deprived of citizenship and sent to the zone.
  5. Kinsman
    Kinsman 26 May 2012 07: 54
    +8
    Totally and absolutely agree with the author, we need our moral values ​​and our children will only get better.
  6. andrey903
    andrey903 26 May 2012 07: 54
    +9
    The blue screen turned really blue
  7. Volkhov
    Volkhov 26 May 2012 07: 57
    +5
    It is beneficial to the Venusians who control Zionism, which controls the United States, which control the Russian Federation, which controls the media.
    Venusians need a monopoly on Earth after the 2013 disaster, and all performers need a bold piece right now.
    The traditional enemy of the Venusians is Ura (Russians, Apollo, who stepped on the Mouse), and they decompose them.
    Anyone who does not want to decompose can simply log out of the system - the TV is not my mother’s tits, you will not die of hunger, or use the programs for analysis, there are weak traces of information.
    1. zevs379
      zevs379 26 May 2012 08: 04
      +2
      Quote: Volkhov
      Venusians need a monopoly on Earth after the 2013 disaster, and all performers need a bold piece right now.



      Do not understand !!! And tell uv.Volkhov what year is it?
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov 26 May 2012 08: 07
        +5
        The last one, but what?
        1. zevs379
          zevs379 26 May 2012 08: 09
          +1
          Quote: Volkhov
          The last one, but what?



          Please numbers.
          1. Volkhov
            Volkhov 26 May 2012 09: 37
            +7
            2013 - 2012 = 1
            Are you really a bear?
            1. zevs379
              zevs379 26 May 2012 15: 37
              +2
              Quote: Volkhov
              2013 - 2012 = 1 Are you really a bear?


              Personally, you can call me anything you like. I will not be offended by you wassat

              But where does venus and the end of the world come in? So I saw the Zionists and Americans and they are enemies. And you as a Venusian saw? Photo to the studio !!!!! laughing
              1. Volkhov
                Volkhov 26 May 2012 18: 58
                +4


                This is a casket with the symbol of the outbreak of Venus, inside there are blue bones, and you can search for the living in London and Washington, Switzerland, they have blue blood and a lot of make-up, they like gray color in clothes, they don’t like publicity.

                http://tainy.info/history/sinie-kosti-v-carskoj-grobnice/

                Link to the article



                .
                1. Volkhov
                  Volkhov 26 May 2012 19: 05
                  0


                  Something like this without makeup.
                2. cool.cube2012
                  cool.cube2012 27 May 2012 01: 04
                  +1
                  Volkhov plus for wit. Could you comment on this arrow?
                  1. Volkhov
                    Volkhov 27 May 2012 06: 42
                    +2
                    An ancient gilded ornament at the end of the table is able to generate electromagnetic waves, which is probably why the photo is so popular.
              2. Volkhov
                Volkhov 26 May 2012 19: 08
                0
                [img] http://im5-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=308513748-04-72 [/ img]


                Something like this without makeup
            2. Volkhov
              Volkhov 26 May 2012 19: 01
              0


              Something like this without makeup.
            3. Volkhov
              Volkhov 26 May 2012 19: 11
              +4


              Something like this without makeup.
              1. Joker
                Joker 26 May 2012 21: 58
                +2
                I didn’t understand something, but the article says that the bones were blue due to the fact that they were wrapped in blue fabric, and here are blue men and make-up?
                1. Volkhov
                  Volkhov 26 May 2012 22: 45
                  +2
                  They could not write directly in a magazine, but it is not difficult to understand that red tissue does not make bones through and through, and people with blue blood are described in the history of different peoples - and the Vietnamese Hmongs with fiery swords (a model of a scepter), carving jugs from stone, and groups knights in Europe, and "evil spirits" from ancient Russian records.
                  The emblem of the Venusian outbreak, which destroyed their homeland, strangely coincides with the emblem of the CIA, but there is not much chance in this institution.
                  You can understand them, but there are also interests, although most prefer not to think.
                  1. Joker
                    Joker 27 May 2012 00: 18
                    +2
                    Throw a link please read with pleasure. I see you are addicted to this?
                    1. Volkhov
                      Volkhov 27 May 2012 06: 23
                      +1
                      http://warfiles.ru/3073-liviya-kak-versal.html

                      an article in the fall of 2011, the main change since then is to reduce the threat of world war from May 2012 due to a series of technical demonstrations (terrorist attacks) of the Nazis.
  8. zevs379
    zevs379 26 May 2012 08: 01
    -12
    Anything is different! And now I'm not talking about how we were stamped on the ideological conveyor: Oktyabrёnok - a pioneer - a Komsomol member - a communist. However, we were not much different from the current party "list": - the youth wing - Seliger's political council - the young guard - one, something there! The introduction of the purity of 60’s soul goes to the present day, to the harsh realities, so to speak!


    If the USSR was so good, why did it fall apart so easily? Probably the author was born in another USSR. Personally, I don’t know a more hypocritical time than 75-85 years. After such a hypocritical universal ideology, nothing else could have happened. Judas Gobachev did not consider himself a Judas - he is simply a product of his time.
  9. shim
    shim 26 May 2012 08: 02
    +2
    Until there is censorship and tight control of the state, nothing can be changed, but over time it will get worse. And the state needs to understand that TV is also a propaganda machine that lays in us feelings of patriotism and pride in our homeland. But while on TV will show such programs as House 2, Holidays In Mexico. . We will turn into, without a homeland and without principles.
  10. rexby63
    rexby63 26 May 2012 08: 20
    +2
    Why is it all about TV and radio? And the Internet? Who are the "masters of thoughts" now? That's right, prominent bloggers. They are not visible on TV, and they throw shit into the infosphere, probably no less than some TV-shny spit like Malakhov
    1. Drednout
      Drednout 26 May 2012 13: 38
      +3
      Quote: rexby63
      And why is everything only about TV and radio? What about the internet?

      Almost all the media and the Internet at this time give a person what he wants. If you are looking for an abomination, then you will certainly find it, and if you are worthy, you will find worthy. Judging by the advertising (which I last saw), the heroes at the moment are card players, and poker is the goal of a lifetime. It is unlikely that anyone with the brains will agree to this.
      As one friend of the NTVshnik explained to me during the conversation, there are either paid homosexuals, or rating ones, respectively, someone cannot live without "House-2" and other such abomination. But those who look like this - with them everything is already clear, this is a diagnosis! Here, as with gamblers - casino players - FORBIDDEN!
      A sane person does not need this. The last thing that pleased the television was the hockey championship.
    2. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 27 May 2012 00: 43
      +1
      yes, when I just played games on my computer, my wife grumbled, when I sit on the forum, it just infuriates her!
  11. volcano
    volcano 26 May 2012 08: 28
    +6
    Well, I can say that yes, the author is right to add an article.
    But you can turn off the TV and save yourself from this crap, but you can't forbid yourself to go out. And on the street just what is shown on TV. And this is really scary. The problem is not with the media editors. The problem is in the "sick society". The cure for this is known. Need an idea ..... no not so IDEA, PURPOSE. Then the Russian striving for it and himself and the whole world will change. And it will change for the better.
    1. cool.cube2012
      cool.cube2012 27 May 2012 01: 19
      +2
      volkan but it seems to me that the truth of life is just on the street and can be seen.
  12. vovan1949
    vovan1949 26 May 2012 09: 06
    +5
    Quote: zevs379
    If the USSR was so good, why did it fall apart so easily?


    He did not fall apart. He was destroyed, purposefully. The referendum showed that 85% of the population was in favor of preserving the USSR. But the will of the people was ignored. The union was destroyed by a rotten party apparatus together with creative intelligentsia (singers, actors, directors, artists and the like). And how many billions of dollars the West has invested in this business - only God knows.
  13. Oleg0705
    Oleg0705 26 May 2012 09: 26
    +4
    It's time to tighten the nuts.
    Life abounds. But all are not those who should be.
  14. Magadan
    Magadan 26 May 2012 09: 37
    +8
    Quote: vovan1949
    If the USSR was so good, why did it fall apart so easily?

    And he will still recover. Take your time with "happy conclusions".
    They say about murders, catastrophes and maniacs in order to sow fear and subconscious depression in our souls. I will answer the biblical "and fear not their fear." I do not think that in the next 50 years we will become cowards, because our ancestors were brave, and the genotype also means something.
    Debauchery on TV is more dangerous. Children who receive such "information" too early and think "about it" will slow down their mental development. Scientists are already saying this, and not just the Orthodox Church.
    In general, either we are returning to our traditions, or already further ahead, to liberalism and homosyatism. Even if we do not want it, sooner or later we will be shoved there. First, they will teach them to be "tolerant" to everything, then "lessons of tolerance" in schools, and there they are not far from the homosexual "families" with those adopted from the orphanage.
    All these are links in the same chain: debauchery on TV-juvenile justice (future adopted children for homosexuals) -tolerance (all power to homosexuals, down with family) -destruction of the state and bringing to power financial tycoons (the same "1%") A springboard for the seed of this infection - NATO countries plus the rest of the "golden billion". Their population, I'm afraid, is almost all brainwashed, those guys from Occupy Wall Street are the last agony of normal people.
    So again, fight Russia, and the enemy is invisible, but everywhere.
    1. zevs379
      zevs379 26 May 2012 15: 48
      +3
      Quote: Magadan
      And he will still recover. Take your time with "happy conclusions".



      IMHO-
      Personally, I am for Russia within the borders of the former USSR, but I do not want to live in an atmosphere of universal lies and poverty under the slogans of brotherhood and internationalism. I want to live in a rich Russian country without isms and an iron curtain. And there is no need to idealize the USSR - he who remembered at that time (not in Moscow).
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 15: 54
        +3
        Quote: zevs379
        Russian country without isms

        You won’t be able to accept isms; without them, just what we have today, ideology, all we need is one and the Brotherhood is not the worst
    2. vezunchik
      vezunchik 26 May 2012 20: 08
      +2
      I agree. This is not the first time that the enemies of Russia have been able to bring contention and collapse. But RUSSIA is reborn like a phoenix.
  15. ward
    ward 26 May 2012 10: 04
    +4
    Well, the answer is simple and obvious ... and you all know it ... and if you voice it ... then you will be immediately accused of fascism ... Great Russian chauvinism ... and they will simply say that you and bjak ...
  16. Joker
    Joker 26 May 2012 10: 42
    +9
    For 4 of the year I haven’t watched TV at all, neither advertisements for you, nor any rubbish, all I need to download on the Internet is torrent and watch, beauty, and the TV at home just as an accessory hangs.
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 26 May 2012 11: 19
      +3
      Joker RU Today, 10:42 PM

      the namesake agrees, but I have such a personal dislike for you I can’t cough request
      1. Joker
        Joker 26 May 2012 12: 16
        +3
        Hmm, well this is your personal matter, although there seems to be nothing to hate me personally for you request PS minus I did not put you.
        1. Oleg0705
          Oleg0705 26 May 2012 12: 24
          +2
          Quote: Joker
          PS minus I did not put you.


          I know that you are not smile thronin who else? wink

          Quote: Joker
          Otya, it’s nothing at all


          and guardhouse, who took it? angry
          1. Joker
            Joker 26 May 2012 13: 10
            +3
            Something I don’t remember that to be honest what it’s not me who gave your 4 warning with a ban, it’s 100% all the more if I give warnings, then in a week if a person behaves normally I remove it what something like this. PS minus you did not put the throne.
            1. Oleg0705
              Oleg0705 26 May 2012 13: 40
              +2
              anyway you spoil my appetite sad although you can contribute to it smile as? You know.
              1. Joker
                Joker 26 May 2012 18: 47
                +4
                No, I’ll survive your unappetizing somehow, I have never served anyone and I’m not going to wink Moreover, the warnings given by other moderators I remove only in ooooooooo very exceptional cases smile Good luck to you wink
                1. Oleg0705
                  Oleg0705 26 May 2012 19: 49
                  +1
                  it looks like you have a star disease am where does the SERVICE? Do you want me to starve to starve?

                  Give freedom of expression !!! DESCRIBED IN THE CONSTITUTION

                  HAVE A NICE ONE YOU TOO!
                  1. Joker
                    Joker 26 May 2012 21: 52
                    +3
                    Do I have a star fever? laughing where did I even write a word about it? You said that I’m spoiling your appetite and that to fix it I have to do what you hinted at smile and so I’m answering you, you’re neither my friend nor brother and matchmaker so that your appetite excites me so much that I rush to do everything to fix it wink there are people on the site who, to the best of their modest powers, help if they ask, or listen to their advice and recommendations, you do not enter this category forgive. And if for that matter you dislike me, you don’t cause it from me, and all your warnings are well deserved, the mosquito will not tarnish your nose. Freedom of speech, and not outpouring in our country, just gives warnings for the second. And don’t be angry, this is just a forum, if you spend your nerves on everything around you, then you won’t live much, it’s the most expensive health yes
                    1. IGR
                      IGR 26 May 2012 22: 02
                      +3
                      Oleg0705 & Joker +++++++++++++ Wonderful dialogue!
                    2. Oleg0705
                      Oleg0705 26 May 2012 22: 57
                      +2
                      Bury early wink thanks for work
                  2. Aleksey67
                    Aleksey67 26 May 2012 22: 02
                    -1
                    Quote: Oleg0705
                    it looks like you have a star disease

                    Oleg, but it seems to me that you have become the "navel of the earth" winked No offense, but look at your posts last wassat I was "jarred" by how you "got" the professor, but I did not interfere, you stuck to the Joker in vain, unreasonably. I did not notice "stardom" for him, I received help from him smile
                    1. Oleg0705
                      Oleg0705 26 May 2012 22: 21
                      0
                      are you cho do not understand jokes? I’m joking, I’m joking and I don’t get friends as a joker
                      and the professor is wrong, this idiological disagreement just as technically he himself admitted that he screwed up
                      Alexey, I don’t understand your reaction. Why did you think that I think so and in what posts did you notice this?
                      if you think so then I have nothing to do here
                      1. Aleksey67
                        Aleksey67 26 May 2012 23: 02
                        -3
                        Quote: Oleg0705
                        are you cho do not understand jokes? I’m joking, I’m joking and I don’t get friends as a joker

                        Then you have very evil jokes. When joking, label with smiles, otherwise your humor is not always clear smile
                        Quote: Oleg0705
                        and the professor is wrong, this idiological disagreement just as technically he himself admitted that he screwed up

                        Are you ideologically determined or technically not in agreement? However, I was outraged by the attempt of blackmail on your part, so "unobtrusively" hinted that you would minus it. It looked ugly. IMHO winked
                        Quote: Oleg0705
                        Alexey, I don’t understand your reaction. Why did you think that I think so and in what posts did you notice this?

                        I am not going to analyze your "creativity". An adult is himself able to evaluate his statements laughing
                        Quote: Oleg0705
                        if you think so then I have nothing to do here

                        I am not the truth in the last resort, I do not pretend to be a judge, and I do not consider myself the "conscience of the forum", besides, I myself am often mistaken drinks
                      2. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 27 May 2012 00: 23
                        +1
                        Alexei, you greatly upset me with this attack. The accusations and why you did this, it becomes clear to me, and it saddens me even more. How can difficulties be overcome? How to defeat enemies? If you are betrayed, as I thought by an ally. Like-minded, supporting which in the end result and paid. Remember your rebellion with the throne and the administration, then I’ll get these warnings, surely don’t do good to people, you won’t teach evil. You were looking for support then and who provided it to you? Or was it a provocation? And you also relate to the site administration? If not then why? Everything is somehow cheap. What is the end of your life for you, if you are banned or not allowed on the site, why are you so humiliated? Where is your warrior spirit that is present in your posts?
                        How to explain this?
                        I am not going to analyze your "creativity". An adult is himself able to evaluate his statements
                        , and this?
                        Oleg, and it seems to me that you yourself have become the "navel of the earth" to consider. Am I on the site to do something?
                        I’m not sure that I will stay here, but the essence of the joke was to be demoted to privates and removed warnings, the joker probably received my email I don’t know, but it also doesn’t matter, it doesn’t matter. Why you? It's hard for me to write this, but I have to. It seems that conscience has become a shameful past for many.
                      3. Joker
                        Joker 27 May 2012 09: 39
                        0
                        Well hello, are you called? Instead of starting a conversation from afar, you would have written me in a personal email right away. If Aleksey once cursed with the administration, this does not mean that he was with me wink I’ll take off warnings, as for ordinary soldiers, this is only the administration can change this. And for the future, if something needs to be written in PM immediately without any hints, have you agreed? smile
                    2. Oleg0705
                      Oleg0705 26 May 2012 22: 43
                      0
                      Quote: Aleksey67
                      You have become the "navel of the earth"

                      will you answer me?
                      1. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 26 May 2012 22: 55
                        0
                        Alexey justify I'm waiting for your answer
                      2. Joker
                        Joker 27 May 2012 00: 14
                        +2
                        Oleg, Aleksey, let's close this topic please, otherwise something is going in the wrong direction smile By the way, we talked very well, not a single insult from the parties laughing progress, not translated means cultural people drinks as a bonus to you wink
                      3. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 27 May 2012 00: 40
                        +1
                        Thanks for the bonus! Is it worth it at all? if even whiskey like water goes after that
                      4. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 27 May 2012 01: 41
                        +1
                        We are only dolls, rock turns us, -
                        Do not doubt the truth of these lines.
                        Give us somersaults and hide
                        In the casket of nonexistence, only the time will come.
                      5. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 27 May 2012 01: 45
                        0
                        There is no heaven or hell, oh my heart!
                        There is no return from the darkness, O my heart!
                        And do not hope, oh my heart!
                        And do not be afraid, oh my heart!
                      6. Vadim555
                        Vadim555 27 May 2012 01: 52
                        +2
                        Aleksey67 Yesterday, 23:02
                        Oleg0705 (3) Today, 00:40
                        For mutual understanding- + and + drinks

                        Joker Today, 00:14
                        For wisdom + good
                      7. Oleg0705
                        Oleg0705 27 May 2012 02: 03
                        0
                        Thank you Vityaz Vadim! Where did the spirit of war go? With you, I am very honored to drink for Svorog and others like him for the soldiers still remaining in Russia GLORY !!!!
  17. SAMEDOV SULEYMAN
    SAMEDOV SULEYMAN 26 May 2012 11: 24
    +12
    In Baku, I studied at a Russian school, and after I continued my studies in Russia, and it always surprised me that a mat that was uttered by anyone (in Russia) was uttered without any intent, just like a connecting expression or word (after a certain period of life, and I automatically spoke my thoughts like that) BUT this is all no comparison, with what is happening now on Russian television! Guys need to save the Great Russian Language!
  18. Knowing
    Knowing 26 May 2012 11: 42
    +3
    NTV the most stupid and gloomy TV
    idiotic sounds substitute
    but is in first place by the number of viewers
  19. Shumer
    Shumer 26 May 2012 13: 01
    +9
    My father (he’s under 70 years old), he calls the TV a zombie man and a bachelup, and he switched to re-reading his old home library long ago.
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 26 May 2012 13: 28
      +6
      Quote: Shumer

      My father (he’s under 70 years old), he calls the TV a zombie man and a bachelup, and he switched to re-reading his old home library long ago.


      Clever man. May God grant health. That's right and does. Old men, another sort of people.
  20. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 13: 28
    +4
    talking horse and its owners to the wall
  21. 8 company
    8 company 26 May 2012 13: 31
    +1
    I watch informative programs on TV about travel, history, technology, films, if interesting, and I have no discomfort and irritation in relation to TV. There is a choice, 170 channels on the satellite and you watch what you want. Want to kill, accident, crime, then you watch it. Everything is simple. I don’t know what the author is suffering. recourse
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 14: 21
      +3
      units can sort, as it is not offensive to most, the same house 2 is watched by many and many people throughout the CIS.
      if everything is so simple, let's resolve EVERYTHING and PORN AND BLACK AND DRUGS and let people choose for themselves, but the whole history of mankind shows that if there is an opportunity to go down, a person will definitely do this and that he would "feather" up the "mountain" he needs to be pushed and not to let it turn aside, to some extent this function was taken over by the Church, but in the modern world its functions, unfortunately in this area, have significantly decreased, and glamor and show business began to rule, you cannot make grandmothers at the "Cherry Orchard" but on "Chicago" it is possible if you remove "Star Disant" as it was written by Heinlain they will not watch because there 90% of the work reflects on the arrangement of society and only 2 bot scenes and bed scenes at all, but what Hollywood has removed is possible sell bo how to think about this bullshit
      1. Darn
        Darn 26 May 2012 18: 46
        +2
        Hello, Vasilenko Vladimir
        go down man

        Alas, lowering is easier.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 20: 54
          +2
          therefore, whether we like it or not, we need someone who will go ahead and show the way, as well as someone who will not let us turn to the side sometimes with a kick
    2. Fox 070
      Fox 070 27 May 2012 00: 38
      +1
      Quote: Company 8
      Want to kill, accident, crime, then you watch it. Everything is simple. I don’t know what the author is suffering.

      Good day, Andrey. As far as I understand, the author "suffers" not for himself, and not for you and me, we are grown-up and mature guys. I think we are talking about our children. This is really the problem. A child, having seen enough murders on one channel, rape on another (and this is on almost all channels), gradually loses that moral and ethical brake that distinguishes a person from an animal. And we do not always have the opportunity to keep track of what our children are watching.
      1. taseka
        27 May 2012 08: 55
        +3
        Quote: Fox 070
        I think this is about our children. This is really a problem.

        Fox 070
        Answered - 8 company, and then I read you! We understood each other, friend !!! drinks
        1. Fox 070
          Fox 070 28 May 2012 03: 26
          +1
          Quote: taseka
          We understood each other, friend !!!

          Greetings, Alexander! I think that real men, rooting for their family and their country, will always understand each other !!! drinks
    3. taseka
      27 May 2012 08: 51
      +2
      8 company.
      Sufferers suffer - I never belonged to them! My thought is about the dirty informational, regular flow throughout the entire line of the Russian media in a% "Good - Bad" ratio for the youth who in 25 years will become the leader of our country!
  22. Prophet Alyosha
    Prophet Alyosha 26 May 2012 13: 42
    +5
    You just need to understand - there is a war going on against the Russian people! Dulles Plan Substitution of landmarks. Under the current Russophobic regime, nothing will change - this must be understood! Only with the advent of the nationally oriented Russian power will change begin.
  23. Pablomc
    Pablomc 26 May 2012 14: 08
    -3
    Television is not the source of all evil ....
    The source of all evil we ourselves-Russian society ....
    At the school concert, on the occasion of the end of the school year, our full-time school psychologist showed all parents several theatrical performances by the forces of the school theater group. Trite minute productions about basic human values ​​.... and in a closing speech for parents said that Russian society lagged behind European society in psychological culture by at least 40-50 years !!!!!!

    So television is just a mirror in which each of us looks daily, but everyone sees something different.
    What exactly you see there depends on the person watching.
    The choice of what to watch and what to teach is always ours ...
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 26 May 2012 14: 21
      +2
      Quote: PabloMC
      Television is not the source of all evil ....


      it’s not all evils, but it also has a great influence on the formation of thinking, in particular on the younger generation, and then try to educate or teach, and as far as the West is concerned, what kind of business do we have for him with Rossi, I have been living here for a long time and I know about what I say, and there is something to compare.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 14: 25
      +6
      Quote: PabloMC
      At a school concert to mark the end of the school year, our full-time school psychologist

      this is the problem, neither we nor our parents nor even grandfathers knew what a psychologist was, but at the same time we knew what a motherland
      Quote: PabloMC
      Russian society lagged behind European society in psychological culture by at least 40-50 years !!!!!!

      how it is expressed, how it was calculated, we have not yet lost our sense of dignity and do not believe that Conscience, Honor, Motherland, Patriotism are the basic concepts that Mom and Dad should be, and not parent 1 and 2, enough for us about these " Europe "
      Quote: PabloMC
      What exactly you see there depends on the person watching

      yes it is, but I wonder what razor do you use?
      1. Pablomc
        Pablomc 26 May 2012 21: 07
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        how it is expressed, how it was calculated, we have not yet lost our sense of dignity and do not believe that Conscience, Honor, Motherland, Patriotism are the basic concepts that Mom and Dad should be, and not parent 1 and 2, enough for us about these " Europe "


        And no one said that we lost it.
        It was said that we were far behind in terms of moral values.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 21: 18
          +2
          and specifically in what these "moral" values ​​are, and why, if it is valuable in "Europe" is it valuable for us too? !!!!
    3. lcalex
      lcalex 26 May 2012 15: 00
      +6
      Quote: PabloMC
      Russian society lagged behind European society in psychological culture by at least 40-50 years !!!!!!

      What is it like? In what sense? Because we are not running to a psychoanalyst?
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 16: 39
        +3
        because we call mom mom
        1. lcalex
          lcalex 26 May 2012 16: 43
          +5
          Vasilenko Vladimir
          because we call mom mom

          Precisely, he himself heard how in Germany a child simply called his mother by name. Maybe it's okay, but somehow it warps ...
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 17: 01
            +6
            sorry for the Germans, they ruined a great nation, in fact they are the only allies of Russians in Europe, despite the fact that we fought so much, but again, never from the vicious contradictions, but others always pushed us against our foreheads
            1. Pablomc
              Pablomc 26 May 2012 21: 09
              -4
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              sorry for the Germans, ditched a great nation


              Here the Germans do not know :)))))))))))
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 21: 18
                0
                so you don’t know that you are degrading
            2. Tyumen
              Tyumen 26 May 2012 22: 23
              +1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              others always pushed us against our foreheads

              Is that with Frederick then?
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 23: 10
                +2
                Tyumen35,
                and by the way, too
      2. 77bor1973
        77bor1973 27 May 2012 00: 36
        0
        just nonsense ...
  24. scutum
    scutum 26 May 2012 15: 19
    +5
    in general, in theory, parents should distinguish between what a child should watch and what should not ... here is another problem - often the parents themselves do not know "what is good and what is bad." here must play a role ... school, but for this it itself must be brought at least to the level of the USSR. Censorship of channels - it is even possible to introduce it, most likely, it is necessary (the mortification of the people by serials, shows, etc. is in full swing, and touching on this issue is perceived as bigotry, "soviet", etc.), only through satellite TV and the Internet anyway you can find dirt .... we will reap the berries of the collapse of the Union for a very long time.
  25. Drugar
    Drugar 26 May 2012 19: 20
    -3
    It is interesting that an adult seems to be a person who is not able to navigate the current realities and choose a television channel for himself, who wouldn’t mess up his inner world, decided that ..... universal censorship should be introduced and everything should be prohibited for everyone, if only his unstable psyche was calm!
    Gentlemen, close your apartment, wrap yourself in a red flag with stars, a swastika, whatever you want and don’t watch TV at all, turn off the Internet, but you don’t need to talk about universal censorship, since not everything is annoying, but it’s even interesting to someone .
    Of the hundreds of channels, you can simply configure a dozen intelligent ones, about nature, animals, etc. and sit, look with the children, set up a firewall and no porn from the Internet is scary ...
    Is it too easy a way out of the situation for the "advocates of morality"?
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 26 May 2012 20: 38
      0
      Quote: Drugar
      Gentlemen, close in your apartment, wrap yourself in a red flag with stars


      you don’t touch our glorious past thanks to it you are. And so in other matters you are completely right.
      and minus from me
      1. Pablomc
        Pablomc 26 May 2012 21: 11
        0
        Quote: Oleg0705
        you do not touch our glorious past thanks to him you are


        Ohhhh .......
        Oleg, how much thanks to our "glorious past" did not happen to be born ......?!
        1. Vadim555
          Vadim555 26 May 2012 22: 52
          +2
          Quote: PabloMC
          PabloMC (2) Today, 21:11 new -1
          Quote: Oleg0705
          you do not touch our glorious past thanks to him you are


          Ohhhh .......
          Oleg, how much thanks to our "glorious past" did not happen to be born ......?!


          RџSЂRё other past neither you, nor very many on this site would simply exist.
      2. Drugar
        Drugar 27 May 2012 00: 05
        0
        Often not thanks, but in spite of it. But this is not the point, but that our country is democratic enough so that everyone has the right to their point of view. Every person should have the right to choose, and not be confronted with the only possible. Although the last elections have shown that we are heading again to the forcible inculcation of "truth", as it seemed to some people.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 26 May 2012 21: 20
      +1
      Will pedophilia be allowed?
      only without verbiage - YES or NO
  26. vezunchik
    vezunchik 26 May 2012 20: 07
    +3
    where there were asylums not only for patients, but also for dissidents,
    Almost all dissidents who visited the asylum in the USSR, came to the West and got there!
  27. sergo0000
    sergo0000 26 May 2012 22: 35
    +4
    Correct article! Well done tazeka.Plusuyu! It's time for our government to do something with these media and TV. Previously, "Blue light" did not cause such bad associations.! And there is no such transfer anymore. It's sad. All values ​​are turned upside down. .And in general, now we live as if it were through the looking glass. I am personally for censorship, but where now you will find adequate decent, not spoiled by these times, not poisoned by amerskoy propaganda, and most importantly not corrupt specialists from culture and special services for the role of censors !!
    We need to change the life values ​​in the country, decide where we are going, then life itself will tell us what is in the media and on TV too much! In the meantime, we are losing this war!
  28. pribolt
    pribolt 26 May 2012 22: 37
    +2
    There is something in some countries that is similar to censorship rather than censorship, and a time limit is permissible in the morning and until 22.00 p.m. you can’t show violent scenes and no naked scenes, but this is due to children who can watch TV at this time.
  29. Schizo
    Schizo 26 May 2012 23: 52
    +2
    The author of at least one episode of "Smesharikov" watched? If I had looked, I would have understood how good and instructive this cartoon is. But why understand this, now everything is bad, everyone is brainwashed. Nowadays .... Cartoon "Just you wait!" he taught exclusively good. It is not clear only which one. It is worth "Luntik" to see. This is generally a cartoon from the series "what is good and what is bad". Children are simply obliged to show such cartoons. But no. 50 years ago, everything was better, softer and greener. Censorship is necessary, even necessary, but not all that bad, by God. "... Russia occupies 179th place in the world ..." WHO counts these places and ratings? Minus, in general.
    1. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 27 May 2012 00: 33
      0
      no need to look at everything with an average superficiality, the one who wrote the article probably has no children, because "Smesharikov" and "Luntik" put on the same shelf with "Teletubbies", therefore he did not look! Hear Taseka, and you look there is a lot of good ...
      1. taseka
        28 May 2012 06: 43
        0
        77bor1973 - Do not worry, I have children, smart and athletic! You are already unfortunately on you say read the answer Schizo
    2. taseka
      28 May 2012 06: 38
      +1
      Quote: SchiZo
      The author of at least one episode of "Smesharikov" watched?
      - The author was watching! Actually, I did not write that this is a bad cartoon, you have to be careful, I wrote about "unknown animals" there is a simplification of the image, this is not "Well, wait a minute" to draw! Balls and rhombuses - lead to a primitive perception of the world, which I clearly observe in my students who grew up on "Teletubbies" And of course I do not call back to the "light", I am talking about the general culture of man in the USSR and the Russian Federation. Believe me, those "50 years ago" win!

      Quote: SchiZo
      but not so bad, I swear. "... Russia occupies 179th place in the world ..." WHO counts these places and ratings?
      - Yes! while it may not be so bad, but if it goes on like that, it will become bad! The rating was not considered yet, but when they start, it will be too late!
      1. Fox 070
        Fox 070 28 May 2012 12: 15
        +1
        Quote: taseka
        Balls and rhombuses - lead to a primitive perception of the world,

        But it is absolutely true. And although the content of the cartoon is really not satisfactory, this conclusion has its own reasons. Well, there is no need to speak about the general culture of citizens at all, today's "free" information gum, abundantly flavored with beer, does its job.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 12: 18
          +1
          there used to be a Cinema THEATER and they weren’t allowed to go there with ice cream, but now cinema and there they eat popcorn
  30. lcalex
    lcalex 27 May 2012 09: 19
    +1
    Quote: 77bor1973
    because I put "Smesharikov" with "Luntik" on the same shelf with "Teletubbies", therefore I did not look! Hear Taseka, and you look there is a lot of good ...


    I fully support! Smeshariki and Luntik are very good kind cartoons
  31. Idunavs
    Idunavs 27 May 2012 14: 57
    +4
    censorship is needed, and then such a generation is growing that everyone gasps later.
  32. Deniska999
    Deniska999 27 May 2012 16: 49
    +3
    Censorship is needed; without it, people will grow dumb and go wild. In addition to the TV, look at the bookstores sometimes found .. Horror!
  33. Svyatoslav
    Svyatoslav 27 May 2012 19: 48
    +2
    At the moment I prefer to watch only sports channels on TV, since there is nothing more to watch. And a little more on the topic of the development of education: today I was preparing for the exam in history, so there was one of the answers to neutralize the Black Sea. And how after that the government wants education to improve in Russia. You give the Soviet system without tests and other similar crap.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 07: 53
      0
      Quote: Svyatoslav
      one of the options for neutralizing the Black Sea

      and in more detail you can at least not a big example with questions and answers
      1. Svyatoslav
        Svyatoslav 28 May 2012 14: 53
        0
        Vladimir, hold:
        What concept refers to the foreign policy crisis of the mid-1850s?
        The Union of Three Emperors
        continental blockade
        partition of Poland
        neutralization of the Black Sea
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 28 May 2012 15: 17
          +1
          there by the way there is a very controversial question, found a link on your question

          At the beginning of the XIX century. Russia participated in coalitions against

          1Prussia


          2 England


          3 France


          4 Austria

          if you answer like that, then France, but really first against England and after the assassination of Paul, against France

          in general, what I don’t like about such tests is that they can be answered simply by the exception method, although for this, of course, you all need to know something, but the question about the privileged class is really dumb and dumb
  34. Magadan
    Magadan 28 May 2012 03: 33
    +1
    Svyatoslav! I can only wish you to hold on with all your might. Russia will vomit out of itself the next bastards with their exam. I am sure that your teachers think like you and will help you on the exam, they will certainly pretend "they do not see" or leave the class or something like that. Fight as best you can. I really want to see how the exam will screw up all over the country even worse than in 2011. We do not know how to properly protest on the streets, but we know how to "blunt". So let's then "blunt", "pretend", in short, everything we can, so that this dirty trick, the Unified State Exam, the people sent to the dump together with the ministers of education.
    1. Svyatoslav
      Svyatoslav 28 May 2012 14: 49
      0
      Magadan, thanks for the support, but nobody helped us today, and the questions were dumber.
  35. Maxim86
    Maxim86 28 May 2012 08: 57
    0
    I have not watched TV since 2008. Trivially forgotten when moving TV. A month later I forgot about him. He noted that there was a lot of free time.
    Now visiting my parents, I see how much the zombie affects people. Literally sit on all sorts of shows with the stars. Nightmare...
  36. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 28 May 2012 10: 32
    0
    The article as a whole, of course, is correct, but with one amendment - the author mixed the mixers there in vain with this whole bunch. IMHO - the only normal project of domestic children's cartoons without vulgarity, rudeness and pornography.